LOTR: THE RINGS OF POWER | Comic Con 2022 [Mega Panel Pt 5 of 6] Conversation with 2nd Group of Cast
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2022
- Watch Part 5 of the Mega Panel for Amazon Prime's Lord of The Rings: THE RINGS OF POWER Series.
This is Part 5 of 6 featuring Cast Members: Ismael Cruz Cordova, Nazanin Boniadi, Tyroe Muhafidin, Dylan Smith, Sara Zwangobani, Megan Richards, Markella Kavenagh, Daniel Weyman.
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Amazon Prime's The Lord of The Rings: THE RINGS OF POWER Series:
"Beginning in a time of relative peace, we follow an ensemble cast of characters as they confront the re-emergence of evil to Middle-earth. From the darkest depths of the Misty Mountains, to the majestic forests of Lindon, to the breathtaking island kingdom of Númenor, to the furthest reaches of the map, these kingdoms and characters will carve out legacies that live on long after they are gone."
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power: Created by Patrick McKay, John D. Payne and stars an ensemble cast including: Robert Aramayo, Benjamin Walker, Charles Edward, Owain Arthur, Sophia Nomvete, Ismael Cruz Cordova, Nazanin Boniadi, Tyroe Muhafidin, Dylan Smith, Sara Zwangobani, Megan Richards, Markella Kavenagh, Daniel Weyman, Morfydd Clark, Charlie Vickers, Cynthia Addai-Robinson, Trystan Gravelle, Leon Wadham, Ema Horvath, Lloyd Owen, & Maxim Baldry.
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man, Nazanin is soooo beautiful looking..and sounding.
"Nandor or Avari" - that's the first question we'd ask!
The static reaction on mine during watching this be like "Who the hell are you all these people?!"
AMAZING@!
Wow! These people know nothing about Harfoots! Or Hobbits in general for that matter. Have you really read the books?
Edit. I'm adding the quotes in, since there is now a lot of confusion, thanks to Amazon.
There were three types of Hobbits: Harfoots, Stoors and Fallohides. "The Harfoots were browner of skin, smaller, and shorter, and they were beardless and bootless; their hands and feet were neat and nimble; and they preferred flat lands and riversides."
"...They were the most inclined to settle in one place, and longest preserved their ancestral habbit of living in tunnels and holes." LOTR. Prologue.
They likely know more than you.
@@ClaytonStone895 Doubt it. You know even less.
@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
You can be a silly pedantic or you can look forward to the Harfoots evolving and making that decision of going from a migratory people to a sedentary people, see what factors come into play with that, and have the symbolically stunning concept of their cartwheels becoming the doors to their holes and enjoying that. Your choice.
I like when the Hobbits get surrounded by the orks at Bastogne and Frodo, when asked to surrender, replies with just one words: "nuts!".
Why did they make up so many characters when there were so many numenoreans to consider ??
Where is Adar?
Have they even read the books...
Tyroe Muhafidin is like a live-action Jim Hawkins, it's incredible.
Cast were chosen because of group identity not of ability
Why are you lying?
@@ClaytonStone895 can you prove that its not? Lol
I got that opinion because of official statements from them.. i can smell thier woke bs
Were you expecting them to cast a bearded man as Galadriel? Everyone is hired by group identity on some level.
@@Jagonath haha.. Men and Women is not identity. Its biological reality. I don't care if the actress of galadriel is lesbian. I only care if they have the best acting ability and has appropriate race, sex and looks fit to the characters in the novel.
@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
Excited 😁
I liked the part where Halbrand says "I am not in the books, but apparently I am Sauron" such great writing, so excited for this show.
@P J Oh man, I don't even know how to relate to you.
@P J It's cool man, I was merely commenting on you not grasping the sarcasm inherent in my comment. I don't condone this dumpster fire at all.
@P J The part where I wrote "I am not in the books, but apparently I am Sauron" didn't give it away? Hmmm.
@@randell9667 hahahahahahaha
Look at this cast. I mean if it's not tokenization I don't know what is.
The Cast is so loveable
Oh my, yes!
I found them incredibly insufferable.
Lol.. chosen because of political agenda.. lets see how woke movie flops
Honestly this ist the shit we get if you hire people who are activists first and artist´s/actors/writers a distant second. Who could have seen this disaster coming.
They are completely ignorant, did not read the books, know nothing about character they are playing, deserved zero respect. Shame on them.
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@@ClaytonStone895 I saw you here before, you are the only one sounding like a bot. This is my opinion, what is yours? Mindless words...?
@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
Do you know who else didn’t read the books? Viggo freakin Mortensen
@@chrisfrost5623 did you know who read the books? His son and peter jackson to explain everything...
Like we all know that Viggo came into show kind of late right? Yet he respected it.
Colbert sounds like he has viewed all of Season 1.....lucky
He said he watched a couple episodes, but he declined to watch more because he wants to experience them with the rest of us.
He doesn't need to watch it, since he already read all of it . He saw an episode and now will wait to see the rest cause he wants to see like regular people how they interpreted and how they portray in image what the books already explained.
@@LordTelperion Do you know what his thoughts were about the episodes he watched?
The show is not Tolkien's middle earth, its a crap woke world
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@@ClaytonStone895 i am a real person. But you are most likely to be a bot hired by amazon
@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
It's Middle-earth, not middle earth.
@@ClaytonStone895 stop commenting, stupid lifeless fanboy
2:08
Say what? And she claims she read the books? What books did she read? Definiately not the ones from Tolkien's legendarium...
Harfoots are one of the Hobbit groups...
5:50
One of the Istari in the Second Age?
If The Durin's Bane will be in the SA, than I guess nothing should suprise us anymore... Istaris were formed in the year 1000 of the Third Age...
I won't be suprised if that dude from the sky will turn out to be... Tom Bombadil...
6:55
What romance? Forbidden?
OMG... Yeah, who cares about Beren and Luthien or Aragorn and Arwena...
9:37
Please tell me this is not happening...
10:04
I give up...
Actors chosen for fitting the costumes and make-up..... acting is a plus.......
wat
What
@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
Hobbits that don't live under group...
OMG they don't know anything about Tolkiens world. This world is the mythology of England, not Puerto Rico
Well, in case you dont know, they were hired not because of their knowledge of the legendarium but their acting skills. If they were looking for people who have deep knowledge of the lore, they should've hired you instead. Sick and tired of all the whining of a show thats not even out yet.
@@jomskieeee if you are a half decent actor you know that researching a character is paramount. Tolkein left us loads of history of Middle Earth. A good actor would research this so they know how to behave and react in keeping with the established lore. They don't bring their own personal and cultural history to an established universe. If he was the best actor for the job he would know that.
@@qplanet I agree. Like i said they were hired for their acting skills. If they have deep knowledge of the lore then thats already a plus. I'm sure they did their own research and were given crash courses about the story and their characters before they started. Some of them may just be casual fans Tolkien fans and did not "deep dive". As long as they can deliver then I'm okay with that.
@@jomskieeee Exactly, I'm not thrilled about the needless inclusivity, but who cares? Viggo Mortensen had never even *heard* of LOTR when he took the Aragorn role. His son convinced him to take it. I wouldn't say PJ's movies sucked just because of that.
@@Jagonath but Viggo never really act like Viggo himself did he? He respected the role, the story, Tolkien himself. He did not make the character an activist, because he was an activist himself...
Seem like a nice bunch... too bad they are attached to this disaster of a project.
Gosh Colbert really shredded the cast and exposed their lack of Tolkien knowledge - quite embarrassing - Compare this ragtag (high schoolish) lot to the PJ LOTR cast - they are very very lightweight
My pronouns are he/him
Anyone read the books for this apparently massive project, and because you're going to be in front of fans, apparently? Nah we're too dumb. Project isn't going to be much to do with all that old fashioned Tolkien rubbish.
Can tell you about female empowerment, representation, and agency though.
DAMN THIS WILL BE A SHITSHOW
“ we have female characters where they have there own agency and we don’t serve the MeN aRoUnD! 🤪” oh yeah Arwen and Eowyn and other female characters outside of this universe definitely never had there own independence or agency!
Not saying that they're reduced to being love interests, but you do have to agree that there are like three female characters in the lord of the rings, and essentially none in the hobbit (except for the movie, where Tauriel who was a love interest, which was a pretty unnecessary subplot imho).The fact that the series offers female perspectives and main characters that are a little more diverse/have independence and ambitions isn't a bad thing.
@@philaeew4866 and still those movie were the best,
We don't need women everywhere, this is the Tolkiens world this medieval battles.
Careers are over before they even begun, poor souls. 😬
I get a real feeling that these people know that they're on the Titanic and they all have foresight.
read the books to prepare not clickbait videos or tweets, you'll enjoy both the show and your day more.
Iceberg right ahead
I get a feeling that you folks are engaged in a cultural war the rest of us couldn't give two shits about.
No you don’t. The crowd is going wild with every video and love the cast. It will be a giant hit.
@@ClaytonStone895 How can you call yourself a Tolkien fanatic and be fine with what Amazon is doing
I don’t care about Kareoke care about what story you’re going to deliver as made up characters that shouldn’t have been there in first place …
HALBRAND = SAURON
Disgusting how they are butchering my beloved Tolkien story 😒. No repect for the man and very much sure and proud of their incompetent work 🤦♀️ Just disgusting to hear that they think they can create such crap and call it canonical.
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@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
Man this is gonna be terrible
Garbage 🗑
Love that they are outright saying they are activists. Do they not understand how much that breaks immersion in the story?? We want to escape to Arda! Not get reminded of modern issues my god…..
One person said she was an activist in her native country. Why will that break your immersion?
@@ClaytonStone895 because immersion literally means a deep mental involvement. And if activists are injecting their isms in Tolkien’s world then that breaks the story. What do Iran politics and Tolkien’s Arda have to do with each other?
@@CriticalMach I bet Tyroe Muhafidin plays video games in his spare time. WTF THERE ARE NO VIDEO GAMES IN MIDDLE EARTH!!
@@CriticalMach I mean, just from what you said you turned one person that is activist and to mean that is the whole cast. Maybe you're the one excited to turn everything into something nefarious.
Lol you guys are exhausting. Stop bringing politics into everything
Jesus christ this was painful to watch.
Women on set have agency!
Whoop de fucking doo. What does that have to do with the show?
Strong women scare you, huh?
@@ClaytonStone895 No, women who feel they have to declare they are strong annoy me.
yeah like Galadriel did not have agency before, wth...
This is all marketing. The questions have been prepared and the answers to the questions as well. You must be truly dumb to fall for that.
The skincolor-change, which is only a small part of the stupid changes they seem to have made, is important. Why? Becouse it will break immersion. Tolkiens world is so great becouse he made it feel so real. And that is the goal of fiction; to feel real. How you achieve that? With rules. Every world has to have rules, and they should be strictly followed. Now, a black dwarf or elf or human or hobbit could make sense within the rules of Tolkien's world. The problem is, it is most likely not going to happen. The diversity quota will be filled, but integrating it into the world, which would take actual effort, will be forgotten. And it will break immersion. And together with all the other inconsistent, unexplained stuff, it will make me unable to enjoy the show.
Why do I think this will happen? Becouse modern adaptation and even Amazon itself has a track record of doing changes to fit their politics, and "forgetting" to actually make those changes fit seamlessly into the world. Just look at the Witcher, they could have done so much interesting storytelling with diversity, like how different races of a dieing world banded together to invade their new world, and solved their issues or turned on each other after winning, or there could be a plotline about the supressed black elves who decided to band together with the also supressed black humans and made some better off kingdom together. They would be very racist against others, somewhat rightfully so, too, a bit like Wakanda. Anyway, it could have been done amaizingly, if they wanted diversity. Instead, we got random diverse people who are just magically there, with nobody acknowledging their differences, in a very freaking racis world. Right. Brilliant writing.
As for Amazon, just look at the Wheel of Time series. They changed one of the core points of the books becouse politics, but then acted like it did not massively change the whole story. I mean, if the Dragon can be a women, than the whole "saves the world and destroys the world" and the guaranteed madness stuff is invalid, becouse a woman dragon would be just a stronger magic user. And this also destroys the whole magic system, by the way. We can also talk about the writers's self-made storys here. It was a hard task to choose what to cut from WOT, becouse most things are important. What did the writers do in their infinite wisdom? They deleted more material just so they could fit in their own shitty storylines.
So, as above explained, I have every reason to be very doubtful about this series, given that it has already presented most of the early signs I intentionally ignored with WOT.
That’s a lot of text to say “I don’t like nonwhite people in middle-earth”.
100% well said
Less identity politics and less virtue signaling please, wtf
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@@ClaytonStone895 wtf are you talking about? you are a bot
@@ClaytonStone895 Ignore this Amazon bot.
You're going to learn the hard way that you don't treat fans like that Amazon and produce crap like that. there are no black dwarves and no black elves in Tolkien's works. Nor is there a warrior Galadriel with a sword. And no black hobbits either...did they all die out after the Second Age or what?
since when has galadriel never been a warrior? have you read the books? tolkien wrote very little on hobbits. why couldnt they have darker skin while they were a migrating race living in warmer climates where their melanocytes adapted and produced more melanin than hobbits in the third age who were permanently living in the shire? so many explanations and this is one of the smallest creative liberties that the show is taking. this is a work based on tolkien's writing. not a 1:1 representation. people like you are so cringe. i want them to stick to the books as much as possible but im not naive and senile like you where i am toxically hateful to people who are excited for this show and nitpicking every detail that you don't like. all we should ask for is good story and through all these interviews we can see this people are passionate and respectful to tolkien and trying their best with this show. if all you bring is hate please do not click on these videos or comment negativity. please feel free to not watch the show
@@grahamduff7383 Your answer is laughable. Have you read the books? Galadirel never was a warrior. She was a great athlete. She never fought in the First Age unlike her brothers, She was with her HUSBAND wich still we dont know anything about him in the show far away from the war. She never went to Numenor or Forodwaith or Harad. She never visited the tomb of her older brother. Numenor is a white society. Tar Miriel has "fair skin as ivory and pearl". Hobbits appeared in the THIRD AGE. Cant be entwives cos they went away in the FIRST AGE. Balrog awake in Moria in the Second Age? Bullshit. He remained sleep all the age. Durin III and IV togehter, since when? Numenor never had cavalry. Celebrimbor, who seems Galadriels grandfather is younger than her, she is her aunt. They are compressinig 3000 years in a short period of time. That means getting people that never met together. And I can keep going on and on... Respect for Tolkien? My ass.
@@grahamduff7383 the only thing I read from you here is that you have no idea about Tolkien's world. We are talking about a world that this man invented with clear rules and cultures. You don't just change it as you like. If you want black elves and dwarves then write your own world. Have respect for a work of a man of genius and I don't see that in this series. And neither do thousands of fans. What I hate is people who can't even begin to write something like this putting in their own crap. And it's not petty to remark on something that is clearly against the rules of culture. This is not the world of today, this is Middle Earth. And Galadriel never fought in a battle in the first age or 2 that was her brothers or her husband. This nonsense that Hollywood keeps trying to sell, women with swords, has to stop. Women are stronger in battle than men. What a load of crap.
@@paintangel13 i hope you kept this level of criticism when you saw galadriel fighting sauron in The Hobbit films. it’s all creative liberties and peter jackson never received this level of criticism because he had a whole scene of galadriel in a battle, or crating an entire physical eye on the top of a building, or had saruman killed off in a totally different way then in the books. he may have received some criticism but it was forgiven because it made total sense in the reality that he was making a film adaptation for general audiences as well as tolkien fans and the story was amazing and done well. so if this show is done amazingly and turns out great and tells a great tolkien story are you going to still keep up this level of pessimism just because it isn’t the nostalgic world that peter jackson made that you are still biased for? every has different visions while still respecting the source material.
@@kikebautista2110 ok answer me this is Celeborn Falmari or Sindar? Where does Gil-galad fit in the family tree? Even Tolkien change his mind all the time. I'm sorry to tell you but NEWS FLASH The Silmarillion was never trully written. All we have is his draft put together by his son and he even invented part to finished to narative.... and also this is Second Age most of what we know about it is bullet point facts..... so YOU ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING YOUSELF. Im not telling your point are not valid but I just want to point out that their is no true CANON except Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit
The skincolor-change, which is only a small part of the stupid changes they seem to have made, is important. Why? Becouse it will break immersion. Tolkiens world is so great becouse he made it feel so real. And that is the goal of fiction; to feel real. How you achieve that? With rules. Every world has to have rules, and they should be strictly followed. Now, a black dwarf or elf or human or hobbit could make sense within the rules of Tolkien's world. The problem is, it is most likely not going to happen. The diversity quota will be filled, but integrating it into the world, which would take actual effort, will be forgotten. And it will break immersion. And together with all the other inconsistent, unexplained stuff, it will make me unable to enjoy the show.
Why do I think this will happen? Becouse modern adaptation and even Amazon itself has a track record of doing changes to fit their politics, and "forgetting" to actually make those changes fit seamlessly into the world. Just look at the Witcher, they could have done so much interesting storytelling with diversity, like how different races of a dieing world banded together to invade their new world, and solved their issues or turned on each other after winning, or there could be a plotline about the supressed black elves who decided to band together with the also supressed black humans and made some better off kingdom together. They would be very racist against others, somewhat rightfully so, too, a bit like Wakanda. Anyway, it could have been done amaizingly, if they wanted diversity. Instead, we got random diverse people who are just magically there, with nobody acknowledging their differences, in a very freaking racis world. Right. Brilliant writing.
As for Amazon, just look at the Wheel of Time series. They changed one of the core points of the books becouse politics, but then acted like it did not massively change the whole story. I mean, if the Dragon can be a women, than the whole "saves the world and destroys the world" and the guaranteed madness stuff is invalid, becouse a woman dragon would be just a stronger magic user. And this also destroys the whole magic system, by the way. We can also talk about the writers's self-made storys here. It was a hard task to choose what to cut from WOT, becouse most things are important. What did the writers do in their infinite wisdom? They deleted more material just so they could fit in their own shitty storylines.
So, as above explained, I have every reason to be very doubtful about this series, given that it has already presented most of the early signs I intentionally ignored with WOT.
Wow, nonwhite actors in Middle-earth has triggered your racist ass.