I now want nothing more than to workshop a red/black aligned hero. Someone so relentless in their mission to protect their identity and what they stand for. One of the characters that comes to mind is Raphael from TMNT, a character brash and selfish but wants nothing more than to protect his loved ones and will go to extreme lengths to do so.
To me, Denji from Chainsaw Man is a perfect example of Black/Red hero: despite everything he's gone through and goes through in his life, he never, ever loses his drive to have the life he wants: even if his desires can be seen as shallow and not much, to him, it's perfect
@@polar8394 On that note, I've seen chainsaws associated with Black-Red characters more than I thought there should be. Denji of course, but also Doom Slayer and Chaos Marines in WH40k. I'm assuming it's something to do with violence.
This is why I believe Elspeth is the best white-aligned hero. Two of her greatest foes, Heliod and Elesh Norn, are white-aligned, showing that she is willing to fight those that share her ideals but take them too far. She is also willing to work with people who would normally be seen as her enemy like Erebos (black-aligned),the Maestroes (blue-black-red) aligned, and Koth (Red-aligned).
@@DiceTry I would like to see some inspection of how each Color conflicts with itself, between the moderate and heroic expression of the philosophy versus the extremist and villainous aspects. Schismatic / civil conflicts are some of the nastiest.
I once made a Red aligned hero. She was mostly motivated by the Freedom part. She was not a hothead though. Her fatal Red flaw was cowardice. Fear; an emotion that Red would follow like any other.
What about a Color versus itself? The heroic aspect of a Color finding itself in conflict with the villainous expression of its own philosophy? The moderate versus the extremist?
Every one color, in excess, leads to the failure to uphold at least a part of its own collection of values. For example, White is selfless and cares for the good of others. White also has a tendency to oppress others, forcing conformity to its own ideals of order. This can become harmful to the very people that white so selflessly seeks to protect, leading to internal strife within the color. Black is focused on self-development, personal gain and wealth, and the willingness to leverage others to achieve their own ends. Taken to an extreme, this selfish behavior can lead to neglecting the wellbeing of the very people that helped them achieve their goals to begin with, causing their support network to collapse, leading to their own downfall. A black hero would oppose this from within the villain's own support network, as to prevent the villain from sabotaging the ambitions of each member of the group.
I hope that you don’t mind me using some of your notes about The Color Pie and interstate it into my personal notes for my creative writing project. Your thoughts are amazingly helpful and insightful!
This video is funny, because I was just talking to a coworker of mine about heroism in black. He wanted me to at least list off 5 impactful heroic figures in black. I remembered your old vid, and was gonna share it with them only to find you released a new one today. Personally if I had to list some it would be Lilliana, Toshiro, Sorin, Xancha, and Maralen. I would be curious if anyone else can list more.
Xantcha is a really interesting example here, and I agree. I genuinely think her actions demonstrate elements of all colours barring blue, but the nature of her astounding bravery and self-determination is one of the most positive depictions of a black-aligned character. The red element in her printed card complements this perfectly.
I don’t play MtG (I’m a Yu-gi-oh player), however, your insights into the color wheel and it’s combinations fascinate and give me all sorts of ideas for creating characters for TTRPGs. Keep up the amazing work!
Great video, as someone who studies personality and archetypes the "hero" has always been my favorite to attempt to understand and viewing it through the color pie adds a unique lens. Personally, my favorite form of Heroism in the MTG universe is seen in Boros - An unyielding force that seeks to destroy those who would do harm, but more specifically, those who do so unjustly. It's this odd combination of individualism in that each person is pushed to be their best self but also the idea that individuals should fiercely fight for what they believe is right for everyone. I think that's why many Angels exist in Boros, they act as these fiery paragons for people to look to as heroic figures to emulate - symbols that if evil approaches then it should be confronted swiftly and fairly in regards to the evil it has acted out. I think flavor text on "Justice Strike" Really sums it up for me: "Those who show no mercy to the weak deserve no mercy from the strong."
That's a good alignment for the Epic Hero, but not for the Romantic Hero which would fit more into Red/Black than Red/White. There are a lot of different ways to represent heroism.
What defines a Hero you ask? A Hero will always GO BEYOND! PLUS ULTRA! Lol 😂 In all seriousness though, the more you cover Black Mana, the more I realize I am VERY Black Mana. Excellent work as always Dice! 😊
Another great video! As one of my favourite colour shards is white, red and black, I can really understand how these would foster a hero like Isshin, Two Heavens as One from Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty. White and red give him the gives him the passion and strength to fight for his ideals, while black can mean that he is willing to achieve victory by any means necessary. White, in this case, would not be his sense of moral purity but rather his clear view of how a peaceful world would be. This is just my take, but as you said: "Truth in zealous expression and peace in fulfilled goals."
Your videos are always, always fascinating. And as others have said, they're getting even better. Thank you, again! You've done an amazing job of drawing out the complementary and contrasting elements. The nature of MTG heroes has always intrigued me - since way back when Gerrard Capashen was *the* dominant human character. I think the depiction of heroes over the years aligns nicely with the evolution of the colour pie more generally. Gerrard's first (still bewilderingly poor) card was always, obviously going to be mono-white, whereas his newer (and a bit less rubbish) card is a far more accurate colour depiction of his actions in the lore. He still deserves a better card though, ha
Now I'm left wondering how would hero with two colors work. Especially opposing colors. I could imagine something like Orzhov being somewhat opposing to green and red. Orzhov, being black and white, would have heroes that defend their own group or tribe or family against the unpredictability of red and green, while they could even understand a blue hero to some extent.
My theory is that they oppose the same color pair as their shared ally color, but for different reasons. Take any enemy pair. On the color pie, there is always one color that is allies of both the enemy colors in the initial pair. Let's take Golgari, for example. Golgari is Green-Black. The shared ally color is Red. Take a look at the enemy pair of Red, which is White-Blue (Azorius). Villainous qualities of any color pair are quite abundant. (I recommend viewing Spice8Rack's analysis of the guilds of Ravnica for more details.) Azorius values knowledge and order, seeking to control every detail of the world toward their own utopic vision. The blue of Azorius opposes the green of Golgari, seeking to manipulate the world in an unnatural way. The white of Azorius opposes the black of Golgari by imposing control on what longs for freedom and autonomy. Combining these concepts presents us with a clear image of why Golgari opposes Azorius. Azorius seeks to prevent change, as it threatens the stability of their dream. Golgari is foundationally built on change. Everything that exists must grow and decay in a continuous cycle of replacement. Golgari abhors the desire Azorius has to force time to stop.
I did think of an improvement on this type of overarching video if you don't mind. I thought maybe between the colors, as you explain the ties between the colors, you could show a color pie that fills itself in as a sort of intermediary summary. I noticed this also helps people watch through the whole video.
Another great video. The colour pie is an amazing tool but also an illusion. Each one of us has all 5 colours indide of us. Blue, Black and red deeds come from a strong sense of self they think like " what can I do" and what will this get ME". WHite and green characters think of US and the Whole. they defend the status quo while U/B/R are more are more likely to rebel. 19:33 i would not say perfect but simple the way things are and have always been. If we think about the heroes journey: red is the young, hero that answers the call to action and doesnt know better. Through experence they get more knowledge (blue) and their impetus is somewhat cooled down. They are then able so see the world not as black and white but all of the grey the world, its people and societies have. They are then tempted or faced with their own shadow (black). if they fail their test they become villains. if they are sucessfull they have a chance to become Heroes. White is the final step of the heroes journey when they find their place in society and try to build a better one.They are at peace with temselves and others( green) .
I disagree. I think White is the obvious choice for Epic Hero, Classical Hero belongs in Green, Tragic Hero belongs in Blue, and Romantic Hero belongs in Red.
Hi DiceTry. I want to say i like your videos talking about the magic colors. While watching the snow lands video, i wondered if each type of lands had a meaning. Like fastlands being the two colors quick response to an immediate threat, checklands thinking about whether their actions are in line with their principles, etc. I know it's just a mechanic but perhaps there could be a justification for it in the color pie.
This is a really good video and a very interesting topic. Now it makes me wonder what it means to be a Dimir hero or Orzhov hero. Or even an Izzet hero or a Boros hero.
Izzet and Boros heroes are both super easy, actually. For the Boros hero, all you have to do is look at any cop flick from the 70s or 80s with an over the top action hero cop who follows their heart and skirts the book/throws away the book to do the right thing and bring the bad guy criminals to justice. While technically a comedy, a great example of a Boros hero would be Eddie Murphy's character Axel from Beverly Hills Cop and its recent sequel. Axel is a good guy who cares about the spirit of the law and what's best for society to the point of even putting his devotion to the public good over his own family, but isn't afraid to throw away the book and use all sorts of chaotic, reckless, and often highly destructive to public property, and thus illegal, means to bring bad guys who break the law and make society worse by doing so to justice. Izzet is less common, but not hard to come up with. The natural enemies of Izzet are selesnya (W/G), which are the two colors who when at their most villainous are about crushing the individual. However, unlike black who are also opposed by selesnya, Izzet isn't really selfish per-say. Izzet typically is about the mixture of red's passion and emotion with blue's logic, scholarly/academic/knowledge-focused bent, and/or focus on innovation or devotion to perfection, resulting in a color combo thats all about creativity. Izzet is often portrayed as the "mad scientist" who is so passionate about their research they push recklessly into dangerous frontiers to break past the boundaries of their field of interest and innovate as a result, but Izzet can also just as easily be an artist or performer who expresses their emotions through a passionate devotion to the perfection of their art or performance, or any number of other character types who either have red's passion for and emotional investment in blue's goals of knowledge, understanding, or perfection, or use blue's scholarly or methodical, perfectionist means of achieving the red ends of self-expression. As a result, the Izzet hero I feel would be somebody who is all about fighting for either the freedom to express themselves through a creative or academic medium, or fighting for the freedom of information/knowledge itself due to their passion being for learning and knowledge generally. This could be a cyberpunk hacker who works to "liberate" information from corrupt megacorps, a transgressive artist or performer who creates art or performances that critique and challenge an authoritarian regime's control over art or media, a person who copies, smuggles, and disseminates banned books while living under an authoritarian regime at great personal risk, or any number of similar archetypes. Dimir and Orzhov are MUCH, MUCH harder, but I will get back to those in a later post since if I discussed them here it would run up against the youtube comment character limit!
as for Dimir and Orzhov... Orzhov is admitedly easier than Dimir. Orzhov is opposed by Gruul (Red/Green), and at is most villainous Gruul is destructive, feral, and anti-civilization. Villainous gruul is the barbarians pounding at the gates of civilization, ready to smash down its walls and burn down all its built to return the world to the savage "might makes right" laws of the wild where if your weak and you thus can't survive, sucks to be you. Orzhov at its worst is portrayed alongside the worst aspects of civilization...oppressive hierarchy and capitalist greed, since its all about taking black's selfishness and applying it to a certain group within society, even if that group is just "you, and maybe your family and/or friends." But who is to say that mix of caring only about a specific "tribe" within society rather than society as a whole, and exploiting the laws and rules of society to benefit just that group, can't be turned around into using the typical Orzhov means to champion the rights of a marginalized, oppressed "tribe" in society, rather than to keep an aristocratic elite class in power as normally portrayed by the color combination? The Orzhov hero would thus be somebody who uses the typical manipulative, dastardly, yet legal/lawful Orzhov means to champion a marginalized or oppressed group, rather than the aristocratic oppressor class. A GREAT example of this is, ironically, an MTG character in the planeswalker Kaya. She is black/white, but very much heroic, and follows this exact mentality of "orzhov's mentality and means but applied to fighting for a marginalized social group rather than an elite social group," with said marginalized group Kaya fights for, at least as-of her appearance in the Ravnica sets, being the dead. She uses very Orzhov means (becoming the legitimate/officially recognized head of the guild via using a dastardly scheme to take out its previous leadership) to essentially free all the dead the Orzhov guild enslaved, becoming head of the guild only to then use her legitimate power as guildmaster to unselfishly abolish the debts of all the enslaved ghosts and set them free, letting them finally return to the peaceful rest of death. This kind of mentality and approach could easily be applied to any marginalized group in a society, and would be the easiest way to frame Orzhov in a heroic light despite its usual connotation of elitism and greed. Dimir, admittedly, is much harder, since it is such a selfish color combo at its core. That being said, you can start to see how a Dimir hero might possibly work when you look at their shared enemy, green. Green as a villain is all about, I feel, enforcing your nature as your reality. Green is all about finding meaning and happiness in accepting and enjoying your lot in life, rather than seeking more. At its best, this is a kind of relaxed, transcendent simplicity. But at its worst this can easily become a tyrannical mentality akin to the so-horribly-oppressive-its-now-illegal-in-India Hindu cast system I.E. you where born into a family of poor, untouchable poop shovelers, so you will never get to be anything more than a poor, untouchable poop-shoveler no matter how smart you are or how hard you work because your lot in life is to be a poor, untouchable poop shoveler due to (insert spiritual justification here), so you should just shut up, do what your told, and learn to find happiness and meaning in being a poor, untouchable poop-shoveler. Thus, the Dimir hero would be somebody who fights against those tyrants that would tell others to suck it up and accept their lot in life even if its objectively horrible and shitty. This could be, say, a slave who fights against a society who tells them slaves can't rise beyond their lot in life and should learn to just be content being slaves because they can never be anything else. Or somebody who fights against a race/species/birth family/genetics-based hierarchy that forces people into boxes they have to accept and can never rise out of regardless of how talented, smart, skilled, or hard working they are, because what boxes you are allowed to even be in are determined solely by race/species/birth family/genetics. A Dimir hero would fundamentally be a rebellious figure, but also because their Dimir, would fall squarely into anti-hero as their rejection of the limits placed upon them by their oppressors would be firmly rooted in not wanting to be personally limited by said oppressors, rather than any compassion or concern for all the others who suffer the same plight as them.
What was the card on screen from 17:12 to 17:27? Same for the first Green Hero art shown at 18:15 to 18:25 as well as the samurai at 20:13 to 20:30 The art looks great.
They are in the following order: Ardent Elementalist from Innistard: Midnight Hunt, Horizon Seeker from Kaldheim and Fauna Shaman from The Brothers’ War
A Lich has been terrorizing a local town. A resident, after losing his family to the Lich, pushes the limits of what everyone thought necromancy was, and grew stronger than the Lich. With this power, he drove off the Lich. He then took a vow to never use necromancy unless it was needed, effectively retiring.
I like to picture mono Black and it’s color pairings when driven to the side of good being those people who are seen as failures or bad examples. But despite all that they still do there damn hardest to fight the good fight even if it means using some questionable methods. In other words ‘I’m the one who has the balls to do what needs to be done to save others…WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD OF HIDING BEHIND A MASK OF LIES!’ I can see the color pairing of red/black or green/black being the best examples of- ‘You know…they make a good point…’
I like this a lot! Personally my favorite color combination is dimir my first real commander deck I’ve ever put together is dimir rouges and I like the idea of a rouge being a hero fighting a much grander evil force from the shadows When I image it it wouldn’t be a white alined force tho it would be a green alined force like a governing force that relies on the sheeple’s human side to want to do what they feel is natural and naturally they want easy lives but it’s making them weak and compliant but they r being brainwashed under the guise of natural spirituality Or maybe because the system is so much bigger it might be everything they hero isn’t so if the hero is dimir then the system would be naya Idk food for thought
Its intresting, white is the color of the benevolant tyrant while black is the kind of hero that would fight back against them. which is hilarious because black is the color of a normal tyrant and white the color that would fight that.
Flavor is so important in Magic and thats the most issue atm. There are so many cards out there which we all call staples. Those cards are good and fun to play, but sucks at Flavor. Best example for me Dockside Extortionist or cyclonic rift. The most flavorfull cards who really shines, are bad, no abilities etc. Look at Carnophage, Canyon Wildcat and many more older or newer cards who sucks but are beautiful. For me thats the biggest problem.
Mana is the vibrational frequencies (of mostly Light) that become reflected as Color when they pass through the Subjective Experience and are interpreted by an Observer. Therefore all ideas and actions can be a reflection of any color or combination of colors, just through different lenses in which it's viewed. Put ^that as a copy pasta so you dont keep having to justify blacks existence lmao
I now want nothing more than to workshop a red/black aligned hero. Someone so relentless in their mission to protect their identity and what they stand for. One of the characters that comes to mind is Raphael from TMNT, a character brash and selfish but wants nothing more than to protect his loved ones and will go to extreme lengths to do so.
A RB hero would be a relentless force for sure.
To me, Denji from Chainsaw Man is a perfect example of Black/Red hero: despite everything he's gone through and goes through in his life, he never, ever loses his drive to have the life he wants: even if his desires can be seen as shallow and not much, to him, it's perfect
Lancelot comes to mind. He's a great fighter and knight but also a glory hound with a selfish streak.
@Polar I was literally just about to comment this.
@@polar8394 On that note, I've seen chainsaws associated with Black-Red characters more than I thought there should be. Denji of course, but also Doom Slayer and Chaos Marines in WH40k. I'm assuming it's something to do with violence.
This is why I believe Elspeth is the best white-aligned hero. Two of her greatest foes, Heliod and Elesh Norn, are white-aligned, showing that she is willing to fight those that share her ideals but take them too far. She is also willing to work with people who would normally be seen as her enemy like Erebos (black-aligned),the Maestroes (blue-black-red) aligned, and Koth (Red-aligned).
Elspeth is the greatest hero of the multiverse full stop. She also might just be my favorite
@@DiceTry I would like to see some inspection of how each Color conflicts with itself, between the moderate and heroic expression of the philosophy versus the extremist and villainous aspects. Schismatic / civil conflicts are some of the nastiest.
Toshiro Umezawa and Liliana Vess are good examples of black aligned hero's so i totally agree on each color has differing ways of going about things
I once made a Red aligned hero. She was mostly motivated by the Freedom part. She was not a hothead though. Her fatal Red flaw was cowardice. Fear; an emotion that Red would follow like any other.
What about a Color versus itself? The heroic aspect of a Color finding itself in conflict with the villainous expression of its own philosophy? The moderate versus the extremist?
Every one color, in excess, leads to the failure to uphold at least a part of its own collection of values.
For example, White is selfless and cares for the good of others. White also has a tendency to oppress others, forcing conformity to its own ideals of order. This can become harmful to the very people that white so selflessly seeks to protect, leading to internal strife within the color.
Black is focused on self-development, personal gain and wealth, and the willingness to leverage others to achieve their own ends. Taken to an extreme, this selfish behavior can lead to neglecting the wellbeing of the very people that helped them achieve their goals to begin with, causing their support network to collapse, leading to their own downfall. A black hero would oppose this from within the villain's own support network, as to prevent the villain from sabotaging the ambitions of each member of the group.
So color pie cival war set? I like that idea
Black with Red and/or Green supporting it has always really drawn me in as the basis for a heroic character.
I hope that you don’t mind me using some of your notes about The Color Pie and interstate it into my personal notes for my creative writing project. Your thoughts are amazingly helpful and insightful!
Oh, I definitely don't mind. If a video of mine can inspire further creative projects, then that makes me happy.
This video is funny, because I was just talking to a coworker of mine about heroism in black. He wanted me to at least list off 5 impactful heroic figures in black. I remembered your old vid, and was gonna share it with them only to find you released a new one today. Personally if I had to list some it would be Lilliana, Toshiro, Sorin, Xancha, and Maralen. I would be curious if anyone else can list more.
Xantcha is a really interesting example here, and I agree. I genuinely think her actions demonstrate elements of all colours barring blue, but the nature of her astounding bravery and self-determination is one of the most positive depictions of a black-aligned character. The red element in her printed card complements this perfectly.
I don’t play MtG (I’m a Yu-gi-oh player), however, your insights into the color wheel and it’s combinations fascinate and give me all sorts of ideas for creating characters for TTRPGs. Keep up the amazing work!
As a former yugioh duelist I say welcome and stay a while.
My condolences you poor bastard.
Great video, as someone who studies personality and archetypes the "hero" has always been my favorite to attempt to understand and viewing it through the color pie adds a unique lens.
Personally, my favorite form of Heroism in the MTG universe is seen in Boros - An unyielding force that seeks to destroy those who would do harm, but more specifically, those who do so unjustly. It's this odd combination of individualism in that each person is pushed to be their best self but also the idea that individuals should fiercely fight for what they believe is right for everyone.
I think that's why many Angels exist in Boros, they act as these fiery paragons for people to look to as heroic figures to emulate - symbols that if evil approaches then it should be confronted swiftly and fairly in regards to the evil it has acted out.
I think flavor text on "Justice Strike" Really sums it up for me:
"Those who show no mercy to the weak deserve no mercy from the strong."
That's a good alignment for the Epic Hero, but not for the Romantic Hero which would fit more into Red/Black than Red/White. There are a lot of different ways to represent heroism.
What defines a Hero you ask? A Hero will always GO BEYOND! PLUS ULTRA!
Lol 😂
In all seriousness though, the more you cover Black Mana, the more I realize I am VERY Black Mana. Excellent work as always Dice! 😊
Another great video! As one of my favourite colour shards is white, red and black, I can really understand how these would foster a hero like Isshin, Two Heavens as One from Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty. White and red give him the gives him the passion and strength to fight for his ideals, while black can mean that he is willing to achieve victory by any means necessary. White, in this case, would not be his sense of moral purity but rather his clear view of how a peaceful world would be. This is just my take, but as you said: "Truth in zealous expression and peace in fulfilled goals."
You are the Rystic Studies of color philosophy! More people need to be aware of your content!
This topic is something i was really interested in, thank you!
Awesome, that's great to hear. Perhaps villains need the same treatment
Your videos are always, always fascinating. And as others have said, they're getting even better. Thank you, again! You've done an amazing job of drawing out the complementary and contrasting elements.
The nature of MTG heroes has always intrigued me - since way back when Gerrard Capashen was *the* dominant human character. I think the depiction of heroes over the years aligns nicely with the evolution of the colour pie more generally. Gerrard's first (still bewilderingly poor) card was always, obviously going to be mono-white, whereas his newer (and a bit less rubbish) card is a far more accurate colour depiction of his actions in the lore.
He still deserves a better card though, ha
Now I'm left wondering how would hero with two colors work. Especially opposing colors. I could imagine something like Orzhov being somewhat opposing to green and red. Orzhov, being black and white, would have heroes that defend their own group or tribe or family against the unpredictability of red and green, while they could even understand a blue hero to some extent.
My theory is that they oppose the same color pair as their shared ally color, but for different reasons.
Take any enemy pair. On the color pie, there is always one color that is allies of both the enemy colors in the initial pair.
Let's take Golgari, for example. Golgari is Green-Black. The shared ally color is Red.
Take a look at the enemy pair of Red, which is White-Blue (Azorius). Villainous qualities of any color pair are quite abundant. (I recommend viewing Spice8Rack's analysis of the guilds of Ravnica for more details.) Azorius values knowledge and order, seeking to control every detail of the world toward their own utopic vision.
The blue of Azorius opposes the green of Golgari, seeking to manipulate the world in an unnatural way. The white of Azorius opposes the black of Golgari by imposing control on what longs for freedom and autonomy.
Combining these concepts presents us with a clear image of why Golgari opposes Azorius.
Azorius seeks to prevent change, as it threatens the stability of their dream. Golgari is foundationally built on change. Everything that exists must grow and decay in a continuous cycle of replacement. Golgari abhors the desire Azorius has to force time to stop.
I now wanna see your interpretation of different colour pairs as heroes and how they maybe different to some of their parts
Well I think shards and wedges have the same two enemy colors a mono colors
Always love your pace dude, but it seems like it has evolved even further. Keep improving / growing, friend!
I did think of an improvement on this type of overarching video if you don't mind. I thought maybe between the colors, as you explain the ties between the colors, you could show a color pie that fills itself in as a sort of intermediary summary. I noticed this also helps people watch through the whole video.
Thanks, it means a lot from a fellow content creator
I'm very pleased with what you have presented here and I think that it will allow me to build some interesting characters for my own fiction.
I'm glad to hear it. I was hoping it would be comprehensive enough to give people something to work with.
Have been watching your videos for a while DiceTry, Your content has been amazing, from the presentation to the narration!
Thanks, I've been really trying to improve my editing, and I think it shows in this one, so I appreciate your comment.
DND needs these kind of expanded character motivations
+1
Too bad wotc is dumpstering DnD
@@duskdeadman4333 At least there are many great alternatives to it
Awesome- loved this story telling perspective- can we get the same treatment for 2 color pairs PLEEEEEEAAASSSSEEEE
Amazing video, you have somehow managed to take the quality to yet another level. Absolutely loving this content.
Another great video.
The colour pie is an amazing tool but also an illusion. Each one of us has all 5 colours indide of us.
Blue, Black and red deeds come from a strong sense of self they think like " what can I do" and what will this get ME". WHite and green characters think of US and the Whole. they defend the status quo while U/B/R are more are more likely to rebel.
19:33 i would not say perfect but simple the way things are and have always been.
If we think about the heroes journey:
red is the young, hero that answers the call to action and doesnt know better.
Through experence they get more knowledge (blue) and their impetus is somewhat cooled down. They are then able so see the world not as black and white but all of the grey the world, its people and societies have.
They are then tempted or faced with their own shadow (black). if they fail their test they become villains. if they are sucessfull they have a chance to become Heroes.
White is the final step of the heroes journey when they find their place in society and try to build a better one.They are at peace with temselves and others( green) .
White: Romantic Hero
Blue: Classical Hero
Black: Antihero
Red: Tragic Hero
Green: Epic Hero
I disagree. I think White is the obvious choice for Epic Hero, Classical Hero belongs in Green, Tragic Hero belongs in Blue, and Romantic Hero belongs in Red.
Hi DiceTry. I want to say i like your videos talking about the magic colors.
While watching the snow lands video, i wondered if each type of lands had a meaning. Like fastlands being the two colors quick response to an immediate threat, checklands thinking about whether their actions are in line with their principles, etc.
I know it's just a mechanic but perhaps there could be a justification for it in the color pie.
This is a really good video and a very interesting topic. Now it makes me wonder what it means to be a Dimir hero or Orzhov hero. Or even an Izzet hero or a Boros hero.
Izzet and Boros heroes are both super easy, actually.
For the Boros hero, all you have to do is look at any cop flick from the 70s or 80s with an over the top action hero cop who follows their heart and skirts the book/throws away the book to do the right thing and bring the bad guy criminals to justice. While technically a comedy, a great example of a Boros hero would be Eddie Murphy's character Axel from Beverly Hills Cop and its recent sequel. Axel is a good guy who cares about the spirit of the law and what's best for society to the point of even putting his devotion to the public good over his own family, but isn't afraid to throw away the book and use all sorts of chaotic, reckless, and often highly destructive to public property, and thus illegal, means to bring bad guys who break the law and make society worse by doing so to justice.
Izzet is less common, but not hard to come up with. The natural enemies of Izzet are selesnya (W/G), which are the two colors who when at their most villainous are about crushing the individual. However, unlike black who are also opposed by selesnya, Izzet isn't really selfish per-say. Izzet typically is about the mixture of red's passion and emotion with blue's logic, scholarly/academic/knowledge-focused bent, and/or focus on innovation or devotion to perfection, resulting in a color combo thats all about creativity. Izzet is often portrayed as the "mad scientist" who is so passionate about their research they push recklessly into dangerous frontiers to break past the boundaries of their field of interest and innovate as a result, but Izzet can also just as easily be an artist or performer who expresses their emotions through a passionate devotion to the perfection of their art or performance, or any number of other character types who either have red's passion for and emotional investment in blue's goals of knowledge, understanding, or perfection, or use blue's scholarly or methodical, perfectionist means of achieving the red ends of self-expression. As a result, the Izzet hero I feel would be somebody who is all about fighting for either the freedom to express themselves through a creative or academic medium, or fighting for the freedom of information/knowledge itself due to their passion being for learning and knowledge generally.
This could be a cyberpunk hacker who works to "liberate" information from corrupt megacorps, a transgressive artist or performer who creates art or performances that critique and challenge an authoritarian regime's control over art or media, a person who copies, smuggles, and disseminates banned books while living under an authoritarian regime at great personal risk, or any number of similar archetypes.
Dimir and Orzhov are MUCH, MUCH harder, but I will get back to those in a later post since if I discussed them here it would run up against the youtube comment character limit!
as for Dimir and Orzhov...
Orzhov is admitedly easier than Dimir. Orzhov is opposed by Gruul (Red/Green), and at is most villainous Gruul is destructive, feral, and anti-civilization. Villainous gruul is the barbarians pounding at the gates of civilization, ready to smash down its walls and burn down all its built to return the world to the savage "might makes right" laws of the wild where if your weak and you thus can't survive, sucks to be you. Orzhov at its worst is portrayed alongside the worst aspects of civilization...oppressive hierarchy and capitalist greed, since its all about taking black's selfishness and applying it to a certain group within society, even if that group is just "you, and maybe your family and/or friends." But who is to say that mix of caring only about a specific "tribe" within society rather than society as a whole, and exploiting the laws and rules of society to benefit just that group, can't be turned around into using the typical Orzhov means to champion the rights of a marginalized, oppressed "tribe" in society, rather than to keep an aristocratic elite class in power as normally portrayed by the color combination?
The Orzhov hero would thus be somebody who uses the typical manipulative, dastardly, yet legal/lawful Orzhov means to champion a marginalized or oppressed group, rather than the aristocratic oppressor class. A GREAT example of this is, ironically, an MTG character in the planeswalker Kaya. She is black/white, but very much heroic, and follows this exact mentality of "orzhov's mentality and means but applied to fighting for a marginalized social group rather than an elite social group," with said marginalized group Kaya fights for, at least as-of her appearance in the Ravnica sets, being the dead. She uses very Orzhov means (becoming the legitimate/officially recognized head of the guild via using a dastardly scheme to take out its previous leadership) to essentially free all the dead the Orzhov guild enslaved, becoming head of the guild only to then use her legitimate power as guildmaster to unselfishly abolish the debts of all the enslaved ghosts and set them free, letting them finally return to the peaceful rest of death. This kind of mentality and approach could easily be applied to any marginalized group in a society, and would be the easiest way to frame Orzhov in a heroic light despite its usual connotation of elitism and greed.
Dimir, admittedly, is much harder, since it is such a selfish color combo at its core. That being said, you can start to see how a Dimir hero might possibly work when you look at their shared enemy, green. Green as a villain is all about, I feel, enforcing your nature as your reality. Green is all about finding meaning and happiness in accepting and enjoying your lot in life, rather than seeking more. At its best, this is a kind of relaxed, transcendent simplicity. But at its worst this can easily become a tyrannical mentality akin to the so-horribly-oppressive-its-now-illegal-in-India Hindu cast system I.E. you where born into a family of poor, untouchable poop shovelers, so you will never get to be anything more than a poor, untouchable poop-shoveler no matter how smart you are or how hard you work because your lot in life is to be a poor, untouchable poop shoveler due to (insert spiritual justification here), so you should just shut up, do what your told, and learn to find happiness and meaning in being a poor, untouchable poop-shoveler.
Thus, the Dimir hero would be somebody who fights against those tyrants that would tell others to suck it up and accept their lot in life even if its objectively horrible and shitty. This could be, say, a slave who fights against a society who tells them slaves can't rise beyond their lot in life and should learn to just be content being slaves because they can never be anything else. Or somebody who fights against a race/species/birth family/genetics-based hierarchy that forces people into boxes they have to accept and can never rise out of regardless of how talented, smart, skilled, or hard working they are, because what boxes you are allowed to even be in are determined solely by race/species/birth family/genetics. A Dimir hero would fundamentally be a rebellious figure, but also because their Dimir, would fall squarely into anti-hero as their rejection of the limits placed upon them by their oppressors would be firmly rooted in not wanting to be personally limited by said oppressors, rather than any compassion or concern for all the others who suffer the same plight as them.
What was the card on screen from 17:12 to 17:27?
Same for the first Green Hero art shown at 18:15 to 18:25 as well as the samurai at 20:13 to 20:30
The art looks great.
They are in the following order:
Ardent Elementalist from Innistard: Midnight Hunt, Horizon Seeker from Kaldheim and Fauna Shaman from The Brothers’ War
How could one make a Blue/Black hero? I've been thinking about this for few hours and I still don't get it
A Lich has been terrorizing a local town. A resident, after losing his family to the Lich, pushes the limits of what everyone thought necromancy was, and grew stronger than the Lich. With this power, he drove off the Lich. He then took a vow to never use necromancy unless it was needed, effectively retiring.
Big Boss from Metal Gear. Gerald Tarrant from The Coldfire Trilogy. Lelouch Vi Brittania from Code Geass. If no one else, Batman.
Yea I need a two color pair hero series/vid now 😂 or your take on color pair gameplay/fighting style
I like to picture mono Black and it’s color pairings when driven to the side of good being those people who are seen as failures or bad examples.
But despite all that they still do there damn hardest to fight the good fight even if it means using some questionable methods.
In other words ‘I’m the one who has the balls to do what needs to be done to save others…WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD OF HIDING BEHIND A MASK OF LIES!’
I can see the color pairing of red/black or green/black being the best examples of-
‘You know…they make a good point…’
So....thanos
I like this a lot! Personally my favorite color combination is dimir my first real commander deck I’ve ever put together is dimir rouges and I like the idea of a rouge being a hero fighting a much grander evil force from the shadows
When I image it it wouldn’t be a white alined force tho it would be a green alined force like a governing force that relies on the sheeple’s human side to want to do what they feel is natural and naturally they want easy lives but it’s making them weak and compliant but they r being brainwashed under the guise of natural spirituality
Or maybe because the system is so much bigger it might be everything they hero isn’t so if the hero is dimir then the system would be naya
Idk food for thought
What's the soundtrack at green?🌲😍
Its intresting, white is the color of the benevolant tyrant while black is the kind of hero that would fight back against them. which is hilarious because black is the color of a normal tyrant and white the color that would fight that.
So white must be balanced with humility, blue with compassion, black with love for another, red with temperence, green with progressism
Thanks for showing us 😅💋
Kamina (TTGL) is the ultimate red hero.
I can't tell if Anakin is mono-red or mono-black. He's not Rakdos though. And Vader is UB obiously
Flavor is so important in Magic and thats the most issue atm. There are so many cards out there which we all call staples. Those cards are good and fun to play, but sucks at Flavor. Best example for me Dockside Extortionist or cyclonic rift.
The most flavorfull cards who really shines, are bad, no abilities etc. Look at Carnophage, Canyon Wildcat and many more older or newer cards who sucks but are beautiful. For me thats the biggest problem.
Mana is the vibrational frequencies (of mostly Light) that become reflected as Color when they pass through the Subjective Experience and are interpreted by an Observer.
Therefore all ideas and actions can be a reflection of any color or combination of colors, just through different lenses in which it's viewed.
Put ^that as a copy pasta so you dont keep having to justify blacks existence lmao
Green is captain planet
There are no Colorless Heroes.
How about Karn, then?
@@sofiar.r.9063 Karn doesn't exist.