Stranger Things | 3x3: “The Case of the Missing Lifeguard” REACTION!!
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As a former teenage girl, believe me, if there was a chance to telepathically spy on one's boyfriend, it would have been done at a slumber party. Ethics would not even have been brought up until later, as adults, when they'd say, "Jeez, that was kind of nasty and intrusive wasn't it?"
Ya still do it’s called assuming tho
@@crippy6473 that made no sense
@@crippy6473 did you skip reading the comment, assume it was some weird slander against you and reply like that? Get a grip.
@@charlottemartin4715 why u mad
Nathan made some great points about the dangers of ignoring context!
Yes
Yes! I have so much respect for Nathan
@@editingismagic1607🤮
I feel like yall forget that El grew up in a literal lab where she had no content with the outside world which means that she doesn't know basic "common sense" she doesn't understand that spying is wrong especially since that's what she was asked to do by papa at the lab not saying what she did wasn't wrong just that she literally doesn't know that it's wrong to begin with
One thing about Nathan he's going to be the right one in the group every time. But I'll never understand how they aren't mad at Jonathan for literally taking pictures of a naked woman but mad at Nancy for wanting to have a night of fun it's not her fault Barb didn't leave like she told her to.
THIS!! From the beginning of ST I’ve been defending my girl Nancy. SHE DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG! She told barb to leave and barb decided not to listen and got killed. That is 1000% not on Nancy, she literally said to go home and that Steve would give her a ride. I get barb was worried about her friend but what did she expect? Nancy to come out of the room after getting it on w Steve and say “okie dokie barb let’s go!” Barb should’ve left when she was told to 🤷🏼♀️ and I’ll stand by it lmao
@@alyssayoung3163 what happened to Barb isn’t on Nancy but Nancy was definitely being a bad friend. She’s the one who asked Barb to come with her, Barb didn’t even want to go to Steve’s in the first place, you can’t ask your friend to come w you to a party she told you she didn’t want to go and being the only reason why your friend is at the party to let your friend come home alone in the middle off the night just bc you want to have sex w some guy especially after your little brother’s friend disappeared in the middle of the night a couple days ago. Like yes Nancy told Barb to go home and what happened to Barb is not her fault but she was being a bad friend and that’s probably why she felt so guilty about what happened to Barb and honestly if i was Nancy i would feel guilty too.
@alyssayoung3163 she pressured her friend to go to the party, pressured her to underage drink, and then, wanting to be a good friend, not wanting to leave her drunk friend with other drunk people to somehow get home, barb got killed. Leaving out the pressuring her to go, if she didn't pressure barb to drink there would be no blood. Let's be real Nancy was a shitty friend and she didn't deserve barb. Also drinking and driving??? Steve had shotgunned a beer. It's almost like she actually cared about her friends safety.
Nathan continues to preach, you literally do need context in life. That’s facts 💯
When Will started crying and destroying the castle, made me cry so hard 😭
what's castle
it was the first and only time someone actually said “fuck” in the show😭
@@jehansinterlude castle byers
Can we just talk about Nathan being a walking green flag?
I say this with nearly every reaction I watch lol
LOUDER PLEASE
IVE BEEN SAYYYIIIINNNGGG
Right? I almost always agree with his takes
Exactly
What Eleven did was wrong, but it was young girls messing about with powers they don't really understand.
Jonathan on the other hand, taking photos of someone getting undressed is not only wrong, but it's actually criminal and he could have gone to jail for that and probably would have if the rest of that stuff with the Demogorgon didn't happen. At 17-18yrs old he definitely knows it was wrong
Youre right It's All Intention El had no bad intention just Kiddie fun that she doesn't understand is wrong. Jonathan knew it was wrong It was just plain creepy
Yeah. El had no intention of doing something nefarious. But she could’ve seen something rather…private. Good thing she didn’t. I mean what could really be worse than Lucas’ farts?
Jonathan in season one was 15 mate
@@rxypixy_ ok, 15. Do you think that makes enough difference to the fact he knows what he did was wrong? He freaked out when that girl walked in a saw the photos he was developing in the dark room.
@@Josh_JKL I was just corrected you lol
The scene with El finding Heather in the void is just so iconic to me. It’s a beautiful scene.
am i the only one that has agreed with nathans thoughts for the whole time
I've always found it so funny how a certain portion of the fandom was really adamant that Will wasn't gay. And that him being gay would "ruin" the show. His S1 character description is, "a boy with sexual identity issues", he gets called several slurs by his father and the bullies, and Joyce suggests that he's different from other people, the S2 script mentions that in the finale while he's dancing with the girl, he's actually staring at Mike the whole time, and when Mike says, "It's not my fault you don't like girls", apparently, the line originally was supposed to be, "It's not my fault you don't like girls yet". So the Duffer brothers intentionally removed the yet from the equation. Hmm, the creators of the show altering a line in the script to change it from something happening later in life to it never happening at all. And yet people get so upset at the idea of Will not being straight despite it literally being in his character description since the beginning. It didn't come out of nowhere. It's literally always been apart of his character.
But anyway, yet another instance of Will Byers being hurt. Whether it's physically, mentally, or emotionally, that boy is always going through some form of turmoil. Haven't liked Mike much this season. But I do appreciate that he biked over to apologize to him in the rain. This is pretty much the first time they've ever fought and you can see how much Mike regrets it.
perfectly said
Nah I'm sorry, people who said him being gay would ruin his character are homophobic. Bc what tf is that supposed to mean? So a character's sexuality will ruin their character? Was there ever any hint that Will liked girls? No. It was up in the air. You wouldn't know if he was straight or not. It was never brought up. Because straight is the default, people always assume all characters are straight and when they're revealed to be gay or bi, it apparently "came out of nowhere". It's like being gay needs to be justified when it shouldn't cause people just...are gay. Their preference doesn't need to be hinted at lol. This is more on the people who just assumed he was into girls.
Sorry for the rant, this just always pissed me off.
EXACTLY!!! people constantly say that “him being gay doesn’t even matter on the show who cares” like ? did we miss s1 where everybody thought he went missing because he was hate crimed. how is that NOT important
@@95wurld additionally to that, if they claim it doesn't matter or 'who cares' then why tf do they care, by their logic - him being gay shouldn't be getting them bothered at all. so, they need to stay out will's business.
YES
Also the way that Nathan is always right, every time.
It’s shocking..
cap
Because he watched every season except season 4
It's actually mindboggling to me how RIGHT Nathan is most of the time and how WRONG the brothers continue to be. I started watching this channel because of one of the twins, but now I think I'm just watching for Nathan. The real MVP who actually has intelligence and logic.
LITERALLYY BRO in the most recent stranger things reactions they be on some bs
Nathan is RIGHT most of the times because he has already seen first 3 seasons of this show. He already mentioned it in previous reaction video of stranger things. He is just rewatching it and others are reacting to it for the first time.
@@YashYadav-uu8vo Bruh. I know Nathan has seen it and the others haven't. But I'm not talking about Nathan being "right" about the plot or anything that requires you to have seen the show before - I'm simply talking about their opinions on "issues" that they discuss. Nathan is almost always the most logical in his reasoning, and the brothers just . . . fail to have any logic or a larger "worldview". They appear to have very, very small minds. It has nothing at all to do with the show and its plot.
@@realtalk8092 oh sorry. I completely misunderstood you point . I also think Nathan generally has a better understanding on the issues they talk about. Most of the times his opinions are right and appropriate as he knows what he is talking about but sometimes he also says things that doesn't make sense. But still he's more sensible and accurate than those twins. (Sorry for my English... It's not my first language)
💀💀💀Bro said “she’s a woman so y’all not gonna get on her” bro she’s a whole child and it’s her powers she doesn’t know it’s personally rude. Jonathan KNEW he was taking pictures to save later of a girl changing. Eleven didn’t think of something changing she was checking on her friends. The difference is big and the similarity is small.
I know this is a year late but when Nathan was talking about wills feelings, the guy beside him blatantly rolled his eyes. Like?
@@PhysicallyAwakedamn it’s been a year wdf 😭😭 (not a rude reply btw , I just noticed ignore ts lmao)
me once again agreeing with nathan throughout the video
Both the brothers need to see things and life in a more broader perspective. Yes, context is everything. Nothing will make sense without that.
Jonathan (an adult) and El (a kid) CAN'T be compared at all in this situation. What Jonathan did was a criminal act. He took photos of a half naked woman without her consent like a creepy psychopath. That is sexual harrasment & can be a lifetime trauma for a woman. The act had the potential to harm her. What El did couldn't harm anybody. Yes, spying is wrong but she just wanted to see what they were doing. Kids being sneeky. She didn't see mike naked and thought "Oh lovely, let's take a picture of this because i am a psycho pervert." So Yes, there's a huge difference between the situations. The comparison doesn't make sense 🤷🏾♀️
Jonathan deserves the slander!
say that again! jonathan deserves the slander!!! i heard the duffer brothers were supposedly editing out that scene of him taking those pictures in the 1st season but idk how true it is
it brings the question, what if jonathan wasn't caught? would he own up to it? destroy the picture? keep it for his own weird enjoyment? i don't know. but i'm tired of people in the ST fandom who excuse his behavior. because it's scary to me that if you excuse that, then would you excuse it in real life as well?
I 100% agree that what Jonathan did cannot even be remotely compared to what El did, but he was 15-16, not an adult. El was 14, but again, it’s not about the age... it’s more so upbringing. Jonathan knew the weight of what he was doing, El didn’t because she’s been raised in a lab her whole life, and even after escaping, continued to be sheltered from society and social cues.
That’s why it can’t be compared, not because of their ages.
bro johnathan was a high schooler like 16ish... im pretty sure he's like barely 18 in s3/4 lol?? el is around 13/14 here.
The problem is everyone ignores that we, as the AUDIENCE, are supposed to understand that Jonathan took the pictures bc he likes photography and bc he was trying to see into peoples true selves. He didn’t have creepy intentions. It was still a creepy act, but calling him perverted and a disgusting person is simply misunderstanding his character.
Nathan, congratulations on consistently being big brained. There’s no way a HS senior and two young girls, one who is JUST grasping an understanding of what it means to be a kid, are comparable.
Eleven and Max were just being kids, imo, I get what Cam’s getting at, but I think it’s supposed to be a moment where they’re being like sneaky children who are invading privacy and don’t understand how far they’re going bc they’re juvenile. But everyone has a right to their own opinion so it’s so funny watching the different reactions to that scene
Invasion of privacy is still wrong no matter what age the person doing it is
@@captainprice2671 yes but the point is one knows what they’re doing is wrong and the other doesn’t understand that.
@@captainprice2671 el doesn't even know basic elementary words, do you think she would know what invasion of privacy is? the concept of it?
Max knew it was wrong though. Yet, she still influenced El.
I love how he’s saying age isn’t a factor as if age isn’t absolutely intrinsically correlated with maturity levels. Johnny doesn’t get a pass because he was literally 17 years old and new right from wrong. El is 12-14 years old and probably still hasn’t even developed the proper mental development to understand it yet. It’s like expecting people to put a child on death row for maiming a person while adult psychopaths are out there thrill killing everyday 🤦🏻♀️
Yes, you're right. What they aren't realizing is even though El might be 12-14 years old, her mental age is younger than that. She may understand abstract things like liking a boy because Mike taught her what liking someone feels like. But no one taught her spying on someone is wrong. She doesn't understand the moral dilemma here. I think people are overlooking her past- her trauma, trust issues, abuse, and she was basically raised like a dog to perform tricks. If she perform, she got treats. If she didn't she was punished. Just like a freaking dog. It's not fair to compare her to Jonathan when Jonathan knew better and she didn't
As a 14 year old which she is, you can definetly tell wrong from right people learn that alot earlier. But i agree with the rest jonathan should have known what he did was dumb and creepy.
Jonathan was 15-16, and El was 14. It’s not their age that sets them apart, there’s barely a difference, it’s their upbringing.
@@grienardus12 but you have to factor in that she's mentally not 14 years old. she's mentally younger than that because she's been sheltered and imprisoned. one knows right from wrong and the other one doesn't understand it.
@@grienardus12she was literally raised in a lab she doesn’t know wrong from right she was never taught that
stop going so hard on el. this was literally her first year of socialization in the real world and she's a literal child. she doesn't understand that what she was doing is wrong, she literally doesn't understand the concept of invasion of privacy. max knew what they were doing is spying, that it was wrong, because she'd been taught to know that. el didn't know, she just thought it was a game. i don't even think that max really understood it either, to be fair, because they're dealing with power as opposed to actual physical spying, but out of the two of them, she likely knew what they were doing was wrong at least a little. i get where you're coming from but completely misplaced anger imo. the comparison with jonathan is also super, super unnecessary. completely different characters with different motives at completely different points in their lives.
I think what Eleven did was wrong but Jonathan was way creepier in what he did lol
Exactly. Like I understand what Cameron is trying to say. He does.t like that they did that little spy game. Which was wrong. But Jonathan was on creep perverted shit. El was not. I don't see it as comparable. But to each there own
No Jonathan was way worse
@@skinnylegend9782 ye I didn’t say he wasn’t
@@Jjj-zz7bz yeah I'm just agreeing
These back to back reactions of stranger things are giving me life you guys have so many opinions that give different perspectives to this complex show
Cameron makes nooo fucking sense. So if context doesn’t matter, someone that runs a red light can get the same sentence as a serial killer (which in some states is the death penalty)? Ok bro. Genuinely side with Nathan here 🤣
Also, Cameron, she couldn’t find a job that “fit her worth” she LITERALLY LIVES IN THE 80’s. Do you not know what sexism is and how rampant it was? Bruh.
Difference is, i think cameron mentioned (in season 1 reactions) how it was good that Jonothan took the pictures because it helped them find out about the demogorgon. And not only is jonothan old enough to know that it’s wrong, he took pictures of literally someone getting undressed.
El spied on Mike, whereas i do agree it’s wrong to do so, it also helped her (and max) find out about billy (or get some type of suspicion). This is according to Cameron’s logic btw. El is also young, not necessarily the smartest and is being guided by someone who is not a fan of Max (mike if that wasn’t obvious).
My overall opinion, what Jonothan did was wrong, Nancy forgave him sure. But still, it’s wrong and nothing will ever change that fact. No one should ever go through someone privacy like that. Whereas, what El also did was wrong, i think at this point (i could be wrong so my bad, if i am) she is like 12-13. There is nothing to compare to the two (El and Jonothan).
I do agree with Cameron in some aspects, but you can say that with everything. Yes, they’re both still wrong (if that’s his point), but what he was saying earlier on in the reaction said otherwise (to me in some ways). I assume it’s because he likes Jonothan probably the most, but i also find the nancy slander stupid.
Anyways, loved the reaction, but because i disagree with Cameron doesn’t mean i’m painting him as the bad guy, i find him honestly funny. Just wanted to point that out.
Jonathan was 16 and El is 14 this season. I’m not defending either of them, just saying the age is not really a factor because it’s not that big of a difference. It’s more so upbringing.
El was about to change in front of the boys in season 1, she doesn’t know much about privacy or social cues, and she’s been sheltered all her life. Jonathan wasn’t, and he knew better… that’s what makes what he did worse.
@@lynnraven6101 Ok yeah thanks, apparently she was on the crisp of being 14, but i think mentally she was younger because of the lab situation (well, according to the article i read a while ago), or ig just because of trauma
@@faedarling Yeah, that’s why I made the point of their upbringing being the primary difference. El’s behavior and lack of social awareness can be attributed to her environment growing up. Jonathan had a bad environment too but nothing that could’ve warped his outlook on how invading someone’s privacy would be bad.
In short, I agree lol :)
@@lynnraven6101 oh yeah i know, i was agreeing with you
Nathan’s right. lmao
He always is
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Bro we need to talk about the W’s Nathan been taking every Reaction‼️💯
Nathan always speaks facts 😭
I literally got here in less than one minute, that is how much I look forward to these reactions
Exactly 😂
I do the same thing but only when they react to supernatural
I love that show so much legit the best horror show to me and I'm always so excited for their reactions
I feel so bad for Will in this episode. Actually correction I feel bad for Will during the course of this entire series. First season he was trapped in the upside down and the second season he was possessed by the mind flayer. This season he has some sense of normality and all his friends are worried about are girls. I don’t blame Mike and Lucas too much, they’re just being normal teenage boys. But them laughing and lowkey mocking Will during his “campaign” was not cool.
The Will and Mike fight scene in the rain was pretty upsetting. Seeing Mike pick fun of Wills lack of interest in girls… low blow. I really just want to see Will happy because him destroying castle byers was I think a way of him letting go of his childhood, extremely heartbreaking. All I’m saying is if Dustin was there, he would’ve played dnd with Will.
That's why on the last season we need all the main kids together. I miss them.
@@misslouie6742 Exactly! Especially since the duffer brother confirmed that Will is playing the main focus/character next season, I am so excited! Also extremely nevous but I want to see them all working together instead of it just building up to it the whole season and it isn’t till the last episode where they are all together 😭
Mike wasn't making fun of Will for not liking girls..??? he brought it up and seemed frustrated about it, yes, but making fun of it is really not the right way of phrasing it. he shouldn't have commented on it at all of course, but everyone says stupid shit when they're angry
@@tova1412 Clearly you weren’t paying attention. I said Mike picking fun of his “lack of interest in girls” not just simply not liking girls. Pretty sure Mike has no idea that Will is gay. I don’t know if this is you thinking that I am somehow insinuating that what Mike said was homophobic or something cause that is not how I feel. But he literally said “it’s not my fault you don’t like girls” there is very few ways you could take that, you can’t deny he did pick fun of Will’s lack of interest in girls. Whether that was Mike’s intention or not, it’s what happened. Mike knows Will has been bullied for a long time and constantly called gay slurs. Will's lack of interest in girls was already a place of severe insecurity for him so for Mike to bring it up even in a place of anger, not okay. So to be frank, I don’t really care what Mike intended with his words it matters how it was spoken and how Will chose to interpert them. And has you can clearly see from his destorying castle byers, Mike’s words weren’t exactly taken positively.
@@tova1412 Will for the first time this season has some sense of normality and Will just doesn’t share the same mindset as his friends. Not even when it comes to romantic relations but just in general. He missed out on a lot and simply wants to live in la la land more. Perhaps a part of Will wanted to act more “mature” to maybe be on the same track as his friends are but he just isn’t there yet. So what Mike said was basically a slap in the face whether you admit it or not.
its wild to me how you can compare el and jonathon tho..two very different situations lmao. here i sit agreeing with Nathan again this some type of record y'all. nonetheless I'll be back for the next one unfortunately! :D
I always agree with Nathan. He Spitting facts always. The others don't really think outside their own perspective.
@@teuland7768 right. and ik they’re friends but the constant face changes and whatnot are kinda :/
@@zara7302 Definitely. I mean the faces are good for a reaction I guess.. but it's totally off putting :/ I mean it's not a huge deal and I will be back for the next reaction same as you 😂 But yeah the two brothers just need to broaden their horizons so to speak. It's like they have tunnel vision and don't see any peripheral
not them protecting jonathan but attacking nancy
Exactly
they always do. I love Jonathan, but I won't forget the wrong things he did in s1 just because I like him, same with Steve. Steve at s1 was a piece of shit, but he's evolved to become one of the best characters in the series, but just because he's good today does that mean we have to pretend he's never been wrong? No, thanks. While Nancy is hated just for her "personality", really. I'll never forget them saying things like "no big deal" when Steve and his friend wrote bad things about Nancy at the town theater on s1. The girl was humiliated in front of the whole city just because the guy didn't bother to talk before jumping to conclusions and they acted like what Steve did wasn't wrong. In contrast, Nancy was placed as the worst character in the series (below the racist Billy) after she "cheated" on Steve with Jonathan (they weren't even dating anymore). Come on, we know the name for it, most just don't say it because they don't want to be rude in the comments, but we all know where these attitudes come from.
Jonathan was 16 in s1 and el is 14 here 🤣. The only valid difference is El is unaware of what’s right and wrong about spying bc of her upbringing (spying was what she was trained to do), and Jonathan was just being weird.
Not even weird, creepy
This is what I agree with they both wrong El just doesn’t know it’s wrong
Nathan is clearing them badly.😭 like it’s almost every episode..
Yea but they try to make him seem like the dumb one
@@gawddayum1565 they're right
Nathan's a walking L
@@gawddayum1565he is
I agree with Nathan there's context eleven wasn't spying in like a weird way she thought it was a fun situation meanwhile Johnathan saw what was happening and continued and knew it wasn't right that's why he acted the way he did when Steve found out I see Cameron side but I feel like he's just trynna stick up for Johnathan and for nothing 😂😂😂😂 the only reason Nathan was using Johnathan slander was bc u guys constantly compared him and Steve and at the time u guys didn't know that Steve was literally gonna be the best character so...
Steve's not the best character
@@UriosEditz welp u don't got no taste😂😂 who's ur fav character
@@UriosEditz oh, but he is.
@@makaylagray2553 YOU got no taste steve is a bit overrated but i still like him he's my #2 my number one is Dustin
@@bhliss5088 no he isn't
in regards to your views on El spying on Mike, of course we, as adults, know it's messed up. but they're kids. middle school kids, (12-13 years old). they don't really know better. You should also keep in mind that El learned from a very early age that if she used her powers in whichever way, she was praised and rewarded for it with Papa in the lab. If she didn't/couldn't perform, she would be punished and locked in a room. It's not easy for her to unlearn that. She used to have to spy on the Russians remember? She also used to "spy" on Mike in season 2 when she couldn't communicate with him. She doesn't know the concept of boundaries yet. As for Jonathan, he's a kid yes, but definitely a lot older than El and Max. I believe he was 17 when he took the pictures of Nancy undressing. He knew better then; surely Joyce taught him better than that. But El didn't have anyone to teach her. For you to compare the two, they'd have to be the same circumstances and unfortunately El does not have the same circumstances as Jonathan. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other because both are an invasion of privacy and completely intrusive, but I just hope you can put yourself in El's shoes and then make your opinion based on that. Then put yourself in Jonathan's shoes. Do you still think they're the same thing?
If some of them think a bit more they would see that but they don't go under surface level. They think "Well the concept is the same so that means it's the same thing". Was kind of annoyed ngl. Only Nathan and his Dad really think of the Characters at their core and what they went through
agree 100%! it's the context that you have think about, not just the act
the way el didn't even know what the words "friends" and "promise" meant at 12 years old and then she gets criticized for not knowing it's wrong to spy on someone at 13-14. 2 years is not enough time to learn morals, especially when she needed to learn basic things first, like 5 year old vocabulary... and all that aside, you're right- they're kids. vs jonathan who was almost an adult at the time he took pictures of nancy. it's wild that people even compare her situation with jonathan's. but maybe that's just me 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
@@0ncetwicemina Exactly. She doesn't know that it's wrong. For Jonathan he knew it was wrong. If they comparing the two, it opens up a discussion for comparison on our end as well. Which shouldn't have been a thing to begin with because the situations/intentions/context is so different. It's the fact for me that they just simply forget El literally didn't have a childhood, that she basically has stunted emotional and intellectual growth due to her circumstances. She doesn't understand abstract thinking yet. The only thing she was taught morally speaking was "Friends don't lie".
@@0ncetwicemina omg thank you for bringing some intelligence to this comment section! People keep bringing up her being 14 when shes still struggling to form complete sentences. My 7 year old brother can speak better than El can at this point is it really so outlandish that she doesn't grasp the idea of invasion of privacy yet? I definitely don't think so. Also to put in context, she was literally trained from birth that spying and remote surveillance is good, thats hard to unlearn in 2 years.
Me: [hoping they'll have a good discussion about the episode, maybe WIll's trauma, maybe the Mind Flayer, maybe Joyce wanting to move...]
JustUs: I CANNOT BE A WHOLE ASS ADULT ON A JUNGLE GYM WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS AROUND, OKAY?!
lmao i fucking love you guys
Nathan's face watching them be SOOOOO clueless is so funny to me
Bro El is 14 and has been sheltered her whole life her grasp of social cues are way different than Jonathan. Jonathan had took PICTURES of people that he didn’t even really KNOW. El on the other hand spied on her EX-BOYFRIEND at a sleepover (her first one by the way) and her first ever girl friend. So she’s obviously going to be influenced by Max in some type of way, and she was probably trying to impress her. I’m not saying what she did was justified and was good, bc it wasn’t. But the context between the two are WAYYYY different.
El wasn't even 14 yet to top that off. They were freshmen in season 4
I think these reaction has me agreeing with Nathan more than I ever have before.
once again nathan IS the goat...
Once upon a time, you knocked on the door for your elderly neighbors. If you didn't get an answer, you went in, to check. We did this for the elderly guy up the street who for years cleared the streets of snow/ice just because. We found him after he'd fallen on his way to the bathroom overnight. He always was up and waved to us. We didn't see him all day & we always gave him popsicles during dinner in the summer. He didn't answer the door. He was able to spend another 10 years in his own home because he wasn't left on the ground for a long time. Someone did this for my grandfather too. About 15-20 years ago.
El is not supposed to be out still, she isn’t allowed to go to school or be out and about yet. Hopper hasn’t allowed El to go out in public because the threat of the government hasn’t gone away, Dr Owens even told Hopper when he gave him the birth certificate to keep El hidden, that’s why Hopper asked if there could have been an exception for the SnowBall Dance ….
This is actually one of my favorite episodes! the scene of Will destroying castle byers is so emotional and sad. The amount of effort he put into keeping a grasp on his childhood and then Mike (the one person that makes him feel some kind of "normal") using something like that against him it's so fucked man. Noah acted tf out that scene lol thanks for the reaction!
agreeing with the comments here, el is a kid having fun. jonathan was an adult who consciously took that photo . it's not like el went in there with the intent of finding something weird, she just wanted to know if mike was talking about her and that's it. jonathan might not have purposefully snuck out to find nancy/the house, but still, he saw what was happening and didn't leave; instead he took a photo.
another thing, max did not tell/make el do anything; she was, at most, a mischevious influence if you will. max is a tough cookie but observe how sweet she treats el compared to her usual behaviour, throughout the entire time shes known her. i heavily doubt she'd ever make el do anything she didn't want to.
and if you recall it was el's idea to spy on mike in the first place after max made a joke. max is just letting el be a teenager for once, and if that includes some sneaky whatnot then so what? its "boys will be boys" but teenage girls cant have the same fun..? i get that it wasnt entirely morally correct but not everything is black and white & she isnt inherently a bad person for having some fun doing something that ultimately did not harm anyone, and wasn't meant to harm anyone.
el is my favorite character so i could be a little biased & im aware that i would probably defend her doing a lot of things but theres a reason for that too; i like to defend girls who get too much undeserved heat in the same way male characters are often protected and babied even if they *have* done something wrong. and theres no harm in that, im having fun and its ... a character. obviously theres things nobody should defend, fictional or not, but el is and has always been a sweet girl who's gone through a lot. let her be a teenage girl with her girlfriend yknow
Nah the brother’s comments are always a red flag. If nathan isn’t here I’d probably ditch this reaction channel
I felt so bad for will because think about it MOST of his childhood he spent being traumatized by the upside down and when he comes back all his friends wanna do is talk about girls and not really hang like they used to
Can people not drop spoilers for next season please?! Goddamn, they’ve said numerous times they don’t want to hear any spoilers and they stay away from possibly learning spoilers. It’s literally 8 episodes a season, I think you can hold it in for 8 episodes until they get to the next season. 🤦🏻♀️
Oh geez. Someone spoiled something? That’s so annoying!
I always agree with Nathan on everything seriously he is my favoriteee
ummm nathan is right... context is always important.
Every season of Stranger Things:
Joyce: Hey, some weird stuff is going on
Everyone else: uh oh, Joyce is having another woman moment
2 episodes later
Everyone else: Well what do you know, Joyce was completely right
i feel so bad for will in this episode, like nathan said he missed out a lot as a kid while everyone else got to experience that and having girlfriend's. i feel like it was kind of an eye opening for mike and lucas, that yes it's okay to have girlfriend's and hang out with them, but also have time for your friends because they've been there since day 1. we're getting to see el and max grow a friendship, which el definitely needs because she's always around mike and never has time to be with friends.
difference between el and Jonathan is that she’s younger and rly doesn’t know much abt the world and what she should and shouldn’t do (cause she hasn’t been exposed to it), and jonathan is a teenager and taking pictures of a girl whose changing. i don’t agree with what el did either
do yall even like eachother?!? LOL
I'm sick of both the Nancy and Jonathan slander. They're my favorite characters in the show lol.
YOU GUYS SHOULD REACT TO THE BLACK PHONE !!! ITS SO GOOD!
The bark tag debate had me CRYING lmao I cannot deal with y'all
I love when you guys are having two different conversations, they’re both so entertaining and the arguing and comparisons on things are hilarious 😂
I think Eleven should deserve that freedom she has with Max. Of course who wouldn't be worried about their child's safety, especially considering how wanted they were. But Doc Owens said last season the crowd before were gone, meaning everyone who even worked with Eleven was gone, so it's been a while. And if it isn't safe now, will it ever be safe? I guess the show makes you feel almost in Hopper's shoes as he has to go threw all the steps of learning to be a father for an older girl or a young teen immediately rather than it progressing over time. It's a big enough age gap between the age his daughter died at and the age he adopted Eleven. I think his worries rub off on everyone. Her going to the Mall was harmless, but of course there are always possibilities. I think Eleven just needed Max to make that big scary step to freedom. These dangerous risks mean Eleven gets to finally become her own person. And she can handle herself if something happens. Eleven's only purpose so far in this show was to protect everyone, not get herself killed, recover from trauma and guilt and be Mike's love interest and saviour. It's time she gets to finally figure out herself on her own.
nathan’s opinion are always W
Nah why does Myles always have the best fits out of all of you😭
Cameron you are the one who compared Jonathan and El and Dayvion sorry if I spelled it wrong but you said how Myles and Nathan are trying to act like Cams the bad guy all the time is because he is always Literally In the wrong or when his not looking at both sides of the story.
He’s always so narrowminded bruh
I honestly agree w/ both sides yes they both invaded privacy but, El is only 14 and as a almost 14 year old I can get influenced very easily so obviously it was wrong. Now I'm not saying El isn't wrong cause she is but Johnathan was way more advanced w/ what he did. Also he was 16 so he should've realized that's wrong and instead of taking the pic he could've run away but he didn't he took it. So I just feel as if El's wasn't as bad but it was an invasion of privacy. One more thing stop this Nancy and Johnathan slander they made mistakes but they don't deserve that in my opinion. I love you guys can't wait for the next ST reaction! (pls try to react to OBX sometime soon)🙂
The park discussion at the end is literally the greatest discussion that’s ever taken place on RUclips!
Even Wills Mother and Brother aren't around much. So right now he doesn't really have anybody no one to be there for him. Hes getting depressed because he feels that he lost everyone in his life. Its Heartbreaking and the actor is doing such a great job. Like I said the Character Development Season cause this time the characters are getting upset at each other rather than a bad situation....
will has it rough,missed out on his childhood and wants to be together with everyone,when he destroyed the castle omg,Noah’s acting was so good.love the videos
In the mike lucas & will situation I don’t think any of them were necessarily in the wrong. At the end of the day they’re literally all just kids growing up at different rates. Lucas never told Will he had to grow up and imo he wasn’t acting rude, he was just hyper focused on his girlfriend just like will is hyper focused on dnd. They just have different interests at the moment and nothing is inherently wrong with that. The moment they realized how Will actually felt they went to apologize. Also I agree that what jonathan and el did was wrong, but not really comparable. Like nathan said the context was different lolol.
nathan is so smart
Nathan the biggest green flag ive ever seen
El doesn’t have knowledge of the world she doesn’t have context good or bad as much as johnathan does, johnathan knew better he has been in the real world less sheltered longer, el didn’t know “oh they could be changing let’s not spy” she just thought “let’s see what the boys are doing!” She had no weird intentions. Johnathan on the other hand knew better, he wasn’t in a lab all his life. He actively thought “oh this girl is changing? Let’s get a picture of her naked!” He knew better but still did it
Litteraly the best part of my day
Nathan’s misinformed about their ages lol, the kids are 14 in season 3, approaching high school. Jonathan was 16 in season 1, so it’s not a huge difference.
However, I’d say they both did something wrong, what Jonathan did was just worse. He didn’t just watch Nancy change, he took pictures of it, indicating that he wanted to look back on that later. Either way, El is sheltered and Max is her first true friend, they shouldn’t have spied but they’ll likely learn from it. Jonathan did and there’s not much of a point in bringing the pictures up now lol.
I think characters being flawed and making mistakes is a lot more interesting than those who can do no wrong, but that’s just me. Great reaction as always!
Personally 14 year olds and 16 year olds have different maturity levels. I feel like even tho he was 16 when he did that. Him himself as in his character was mature enough and knew better not to do that.
@@makaylarhodes7442 Oh for sure, I didn’t deny that. In fact, El was about to undress in front of the boys in season 1 because she’s so unaware of social cues. They both have very different upbringings, thus what Jonathan did was worse… but he’s shown maturity since that point and did admit it was wrong.
Max wasn't El's true friend
@@UriosEditz The show does everything to literally tell you otherwise but you seem convinced, so sure lol
@@UriosEditz max is eleven’s first girl friend that she can start to relate too
Can’t wait till y’all see the rest of season 3 and 4 😭😭😭
poor Joyce going back to that Lab and remembering Bob and where and how he died is sad and she misses him and also knowing that he suffered in the end
The actor who plays billy (dacre montgomery), i had no idea he was Australian until i saw him speak in an interview. Bro’s american english accent is incredible.
At this point I accepted that I am Nate and Nate is me and I’m honestly okay with that
💗I Love seeing Max and El together their scenes are so cute, their such great friends 💜
I am sorry, but i cant keep silent. Cameron looks so stylish with this, idk, scarf on his head.
Will destroying castle Byers is officially him signing off his childhood, he knows its over.
Mike saying that to Will during their argument was very messed up. Mike and Will have been best friends since they were 5 years old and they are 14 years old in season 3 so Mike obviously knew what the town of Hawkins and Wills dad had to say about Will and his sexuality. Hell the bully in season 1 even said some nasty things about Will in front of Mike. Even if Mike meant it in a different way it is still very messed up on his part because Will obviously took it that way because of what everyone said about him while he was growing up.
I was so glad that El broke up with Mike and became best friends with Max during that time because it truly seemed like she was very happy without him honestly.
You're just a Mike hater
Yes exactly, it was such a low blow to say that and you can see it hurt Will. On top of this will just got possessed mike should be more considerate. In my opinion he is a pretty terrible friend.
the whole moral discourse about playing in a park with kids had me dying omds 😭😭
I love how you’re seeing both sides of the fight between will and Mike because most of the people bash Mike for being a jerk and support only will. Nobody’s in the wrong here so we can’t take sides and I’m happy Nathan was supportive of both.
Y'all should listen to Nathan more and the ideas y'all have about women and female characters are a bit scary lol
Oh hey the moment I open RUclips, lolll
I love how the comment section Stans Nathan ✨
Last season Dr. Owens said give it a year before introducing El to the world whe he gave Hopper her birth certificate. Hopper asked for one night so she could go to the snowball. There is still a part of the government El is hiding from and Dr. Owens is covering for her. His argument is that they need more time to misdirect and put time between people looking for her. She is allowed to be out after the year is up. Her year is not currently up.
Best discussions on RUclips! 😂
I can not wait for you guys to react to season 4 its going to blow your minds
Some of the visuals alone left my jaw on the floor
It's the worst season for me
Your long debates and tangents at the end of each ST reaction are highly entertaining lmao
Tbh, Max and El are 14 years old. At least Max would know that spying isn't right. With El being raised in the lab, even with her being out for almost two years, she might not entirely understand all rights from wrongs. She was being trained to spy on Russians.
You guys are the best reaction channel! Always uploading so fast haha.
I need episode 4 uploaded soon! Lol
Nah you really speeding through this season 😭 love that for us!
nathan is always right its crazy
‘This show is looking kind of psychotic’ season 4: 👀👀👀
Jonathans to wrapped up with Nancy to be there for Will and Joyce is on her own mission again his friends have different lives without him. I feel bad for Will Byers. Its almost like he's still in that place and gone because he feels dead inside. I think most of the Characters go through some form of Depression in this series but I think Will was the first next to Hopper losing his daughter and still dealing with that trauma.
so excited for this reaction!
Honestly tho, Cameron’s just gonna have to admit he hates women and go or something. Like why is it that everytime a female character messes up he’ll be the first one to hate but when a male character messes up he’ll only give them a little heat or defends them, just like he’s doing with Jonathan. Okay, I don’t actually think he hates women but there always seems to be some type of micro aggressions against us like wdym “she’s a woman so y’all not gonna get on her” or something like that 💀 Nathan was the only one making sense in that argument.
Max does no wrong
Nancy turns into Nancy Drew
I know I’m very very late, but Nathan is 100% correct. Eleven using her abilities to spy on Mike is completely different to Jonathan. Mike and eleven are boyfriend and girlfriend , they’re in a relationship. Yes while spying on someone in general is wrong, El didn’t do it with the intention of catching Mike doing something inappropriate. She did with the attention of finding out what her BOYFRIEND was saying abt their break up, which yes is bad but is completely different to Jonathan taking inappropriate pictures of a girl he didn’t have a relationship with, with the intention of having photos of her and printing them of for his own personal use. Cameron being unable to see that is mind blowing, Jonathan is a pre adult and cannot be compared to a child doing something completely different. Taking images of someone through their window is a crime and is not “spying”- He used his camera to collect photos of her without her clothes which is not even comparable to eleven watching Mike talk about their breakup.