F-16 VS FIRST JET FIGHTERS - How Many Does It Take? - WAR THUNDER

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  • Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video MODERN JET FIGHTER (F-16) VS FORST JET FIGHTER (ME 262)!!! Stay tuned!
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  • @FryedFish
    @FryedFish Год назад +788

    Pretty interesting to see that once their missiles ran out, so did their skill

    • @dewayto234xd9
      @dewayto234xd9 Год назад +10

      Lol

    • @Donut833
      @Donut833 Год назад +129

      I won’t say that they had no skill, but at the same time the F16 has a radar gun sight man. It can be iffy with a slippery opponent but I find it to be accurate enough. Kinda disappointing.

    • @neopolitan4121
      @neopolitan4121 Год назад +15

      SO TRUE

    • @matthewshadle7131
      @matthewshadle7131 Год назад +8

      I know how to evade missiles with an me262. It’s tricky but possible

    • @MberEnder
      @MberEnder Год назад +52

      I actually got a few kills with my gun. The problem is that the F-16 only has like 600 rounds, so the cannon runs out faster than the missiles.

  • @Zero_2558
    @Zero_2558 Год назад +272

    Funny enough the first F16 that got taken out was by a kikka which had much worse firepower then a Me262 let alone F16, max respect for that Japanese pilot

    • @Dave-_-
      @Dave-_- Год назад +16

      in an original 262 it'd be still harder to hit because kikka's type 5 cannons HEF-T round goes 920m/s when any round from MK 108 goes only 500m/s. That's why japanese 30mm's are slower and don't have minengeschoß but are actually better

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Год назад +1

      @@Dave-_- that’s why I’d imagine we’d see a huge difference vs f80 or f84

    • @FRFFW
      @FRFFW Год назад

      Japanese air target did a better job than the german one

    • @hunterwilson6703
      @hunterwilson6703 4 месяца назад

      I love how most of them rocket shots missile went past the jet clearly but still managed to stop. Take a few steps back lol

  • @slavicgondola1817
    @slavicgondola1817 Год назад +29

    10:59 of course it’s a cracked out kika player that made that hell of a shot. Great video 🤙🏻

  • @theforzagamer3880
    @theforzagamer3880 Год назад +153

    The P80 Shooting Star and Gloster Meteor would’ve been nice to see in this

    • @KMZX_700
      @KMZX_700 Год назад +1

      mmhmm

    • @adriencoudert1083
      @adriencoudert1083 Год назад +1

      And P-59s

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Год назад

      I think if the first match was p80s they would’ve won. Looked like the low velocity of the German guns let them down quite a bit

    • @sabrinaboisvert1141
      @sabrinaboisvert1141 Год назад

      @@ivanfromtheeast4709 they have Mk 103's which is higher velocity than 50cal, same with Mg 151 basically

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Год назад +2

      @@sabrinaboisvert1141 the mk108 fires with a muzzle velocity of 1,770 fps while the m2 fires at 2,910 fps so not only is the muzzle velocity faster it also has less drag

  • @sandystockmon8561
    @sandystockmon8561 Год назад +90

    fun fact, the head of the luftwaffe towards the end of the war actually used the 262 and mainly used it as an interceptor due to its exceptional speed compaired to bombers and the guns that were used on it, including the 50mm anti armor gun that could pritty much break a wing before you could say "bandits" if you had good aim.

    • @I_am_not_a_dog
      @I_am_not_a_dog Год назад +12

      The 262 variant which carried the 50mm cannon (the Me 262 A-1a/U4) had 2 built. As far as I am aware, none were used operationally, and if they were, I highly doubt they ever would have hit anything.
      262 pilots lamented their closing speeds with enemy bombers, as it gave them such a small window to shoot that it led to far fewer kills than one might expect. Knowing this, I can’t even imagine how difficult it would have been for pilots to use the 50mm.
      Case-in-point:
      If it worked as well, some version of it would’ve seen use post-war. The closest we got to it was the single 37mm cannon on the MiG-9 and MiG-15, which was specifically intended for taking down US strategic bombers. It was so difficult to use that pilots whom were exceptionally skilled with it in-training were awarded a special title, “Sniper Pilot.”

    • @vasiliymedvedev1532
      @vasiliymedvedev1532 Год назад +1

      ​@mfil92 sniper pilot class qualification was created in 1971 so it definitely had nothing to do mig 9

  • @Nativeat1YT
    @Nativeat1YT Год назад +54

    Aim 9L and Aim7M was essentially bullying the poor 262s lol, Great Video.

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Год назад +7

      Thanks Native!

    • @ace_maker3492
      @ace_maker3492 Год назад +1

      The 7ms couldn’t get enough signal to launch, I kept trying to launch the 7ms the entire time but the only time I got enough signal was in that head on

    • @Nativeat1YT
      @Nativeat1YT Год назад

      @Ace_Maker Who need stealth when you have the ground lol

    • @ace_maker3492
      @ace_maker3492 Год назад

      They werent even low lol, they just refused to get signal for launch, I think it might have been speed difference

  • @duprontifyer3670
    @duprontifyer3670 Год назад +45

    Hi I love your content as a war thunder player myself I love to see these fun videos it really makes my day

  • @danielszmit2073
    @danielszmit2073 Год назад +273

    the first F16 player just spammed missiles, his aim with the cannon was honestly pretty terrible, not a particularly interesting battle to watch

    • @brentonwinslow9490
      @brentonwinslow9490 Год назад

      Both rounds had shit aim

    • @bolognaguy3100
      @bolognaguy3100 Год назад +2

      ok 👌

    • @MberEnder
      @MberEnder Год назад +46

      That's kind of the point. The F-16 isn't just faster and more agile than a Me 262, it also has much better weapons. And yes, I did get kills with the gun. The F-16 only has like 600 rounds of 20mil, so it runs out quickly.
      And if you're questioning my skill, I will gladly 1v1 you F-16 vs. F-16.

    • @Westwoodshadowgaming
      @Westwoodshadowgaming Год назад +15

      @@MberEnder You're like "fight me if you doubt my skill" i love it!

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 Год назад +6

      ​@@Westwoodshadowgaming imagine if he just loses tho

  • @Walking654
    @Walking654 Год назад +67

    Bro the F-16 pilot in the gold plane literally just lowered and let his gear fly off on multiple occasions during landing and takeoff 💀

    • @Tanknuggets217
      @Tanknuggets217 Год назад +26

      That dude just spammed missles. Terrible player

    • @kaljamaistuuperjantaisin
      @kaljamaistuuperjantaisin Год назад +2

      ​@@Tanknuggets217you don't even probably have tier 5 aircraft unlocked💀

    • @bipbap5079
      @bipbap5079 Год назад +8

      ​@@Tanknuggets217Itd be the best strategy here, its not bad skill, its just not being dumb

    • @Peggio
      @Peggio 17 дней назад

      he was getting shot at no time for gear

  • @jeager555
    @jeager555 Год назад +15

    The Kikka is a Japanese varient of the Me 262, not the exact same but simular

  • @LogI_Bear
    @LogI_Bear Год назад +33

    Germany never suffers!

  • @skiwari2579
    @skiwari2579 Год назад +7

    F16 try not to use missile challenge (impossible)

  • @tinymustacheman9631
    @tinymustacheman9631 Год назад +4

    It's all shits and giggles until somebody giggles and shits

  • @hansthesoldier8700
    @hansthesoldier8700 Год назад +3

    10:57 yay im on screen :D

  • @sharinillias
    @sharinillias Год назад +25

    Why no one using the Me-262 C2b?? Gives a little edge for the dogfights against modern jets. Would love to see a C2b engaging.

    • @darthnick1516
      @darthnick1516 Год назад +1

      Yea well the boosters would help but only a little. Also i only saw the a1 and the squadron one , so i guess that's what they had to use.

  • @Noel100HUN
    @Noel100HUN Год назад +4

    as we can see in the video no missile=no skill

  • @mystlcgreatness
    @mystlcgreatness Год назад +6

    The F-16s have some cool camouflages

  • @APerson-fj6yx
    @APerson-fj6yx Год назад +4

    This reminded me of how I, a P-400, shot down 1 F-16, 3 MiG 29s, and 2 MiG 21s
    *this was in separate servers in 2 separate days*
    Guess that’s what happens when you play too much Microsoft flight sim

  • @Cyanfox3006
    @Cyanfox3006 Год назад +1

    In first round there was literally no chance for 262s unless the pilot us stupid. You just shoot your missiles, go to space, rearm, repeat. Big respect to the Kikka pilot.

  • @787sarecool
    @787sarecool Год назад +1

    6:25 That is some extreme luck to not crash. If it was me I would be like “My time has come” 😂

  • @aapopesonen2902
    @aapopesonen2902 Год назад +4

    Video idea: Slowest plane vs the fastest. This would probably be PO-2 vs F-104.

    • @sanya1216
      @sanya1216 Год назад +1

      Mig 29 is faster than f104

  • @samc6231
    @samc6231 Год назад +1

    A very ironic ending, considering that was how the allies used to take out me262's back in the day

  • @KMZX_700
    @KMZX_700 Год назад +2

    New title - F-16 vs. ME-262. _*yeah, the title is slightly ocd triggering_ but overall great vid.

  • @tu1kozaQ
    @tu1kozaQ Год назад +1

    It went by like we were standing still!

  • @silentact1
    @silentact1 Год назад +4

    Can you please do a B17 Flying Fortress formation vs ME 262’s? Or a Royal Navy clash vs the Kriegsmarine?

    • @flappy3635
      @flappy3635 Год назад +1

      b17 one would be awsome

  • @rudatkatzn9171
    @rudatkatzn9171 Год назад +8

    Honestly, while I find it cool to do these vs matches, the first round was obvious. The 262 can't climb. It's engines are atrociously bad (in RB) and with the enemy getting it's missiles back every few seconds, not a chance

    • @Tswa567
      @Tswa567 Год назад

      Agreed, they basically just could and did sit at long range/high altitude and spam mach 4 missiles against a trans-sonic jet. Wouldn’t be different if it was bi planes or even Mig15s

  • @Rezin8Gaming
    @Rezin8Gaming Год назад +2

    Would love to see a Me-262 vs P-51 video

  • @jessediego4096
    @jessediego4096 Год назад +3

    Mig 29s vs Me 262s next time

  • @Thatguytigers
    @Thatguytigers Год назад

    6:21
    My brain: hes dead
    My heart: hes dead
    My anxiety:💀
    The pilot's radio: Freeebirdd!!!

  • @no-ct2ku
    @no-ct2ku Год назад +2

    It's so easy to dogfight 4th gen jets in 1st or 2nd gen jets. You have a smaller turn radius because you are slower when at max speed.

    • @di5ea5eairsoft6
      @di5ea5eairsoft6 Год назад +1

      Thats y top jets dont engage in dogfights

    • @cideltacommand7169
      @cideltacommand7169 Год назад

      @@di5ea5eairsoft6 yeah lol, they just use their burst in a boom and zoom then escape the enemies range before they turn

  • @Relatable_444
    @Relatable_444 Год назад +1

    I ran into one of the Me 626 jet fighters while playing (it was fine art expert)

  • @adamklasa7270
    @adamklasa7270 Год назад +7

    I like so much your content:) I would like to see, more of the historical recreations, maybe battle of Łuck, battle of Hannut or battle of Falaise? The war in Poland (1939) would be very cool, but we don,t have to much Polisch vehicles (like PZL-11, TKS, Karaś, Łoś, 7TP, Wz.34)

  • @AmarettoTheFurry
    @AmarettoTheFurry 7 месяцев назад

    song during 3:40? Sounds really good. nvm, Shazam finally worked.

  • @Add12pack
    @Add12pack Год назад +8

    I wanna see the best turning non-biplane the German flying wing vs f-16's with guns only. It's the ho 229? Something like that can't remember. Edit I guessed it right!

  • @TrashSt4r
    @TrashSt4r Год назад

    The F-16A (warthunder one) isn’t in service anymore as to my knowledge lol (still great video)

  • @way9895
    @way9895 Год назад +2

    How every uptier feels

  • @Lexicon-ff6or
    @Lexicon-ff6or Год назад

    Time traveler: moves a chair
    The timeline:

  • @05-1scpfoundation5
    @05-1scpfoundation5 Год назад +1

    The golden F-16 pilot was handing out freedom 😂

  • @haydeneaton5113
    @haydeneaton5113 Год назад +2

    Minor skill issue with the F 16 pilots... kind of disappointing

    • @ghostly6175
      @ghostly6175 Год назад

      Had the speed, climb rate, and weapon advantage and performed terribly. Could have just been because of the way it was edited but once they ran out of missiles they were terrible at dogfighting, just proves even some top tier players have as much skill as new players

  • @tristenakintomide9091
    @tristenakintomide9091 Год назад

    F-5 VS Mig-23 or F-4 VS Mig-21 would be an excellent video

  • @thefew.theproud.19Kilo
    @thefew.theproud.19Kilo Год назад +3

    11:00 what a freakin shot.

  • @dragonbladem6899
    @dragonbladem6899 Год назад +1

    Can you do a swarm of 1st Gen Fighters vs 4th Gen Fighters

  • @horndog252
    @horndog252 Год назад

    I'm ngl, great video, I think I had a stroke listening to the first 10 seconds of the video

  • @Riftz-I
    @Riftz-I Год назад

    get new 262 pilots who actually have brains

  • @Xtariz
    @Xtariz Год назад

    Stupid question... is it possible to have true size battle historically correct battles in WarThunder player vs player...

  • @pieterdeliho1492
    @pieterdeliho1492 Год назад

    Would love to be in a F-16AJ if there's another battle like this

  • @araara_seraph6335
    @araara_seraph6335 Год назад +1

    This was fun to do even tho I died most the time xD

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Год назад

    "All they need to cripple the fighter"
    Yeah I would say an F-16 is probably gonna die from average 2-3 30mm hits.

  • @akbk7160
    @akbk7160 Год назад +1

    Anyone know when the dev server will be open again?

  • @novaadityamr1724
    @novaadityamr1724 Год назад +1

    Just flashing in my head, will be prop plane or Me 262 dodge more missile if they had missile detection thing? Because what I watch is they mostly didn't know if they got locked.

  • @Tiller_gaming
    @Tiller_gaming 6 месяцев назад

    W intro

  • @Looscannon94
    @Looscannon94 Год назад

    Why would you bring in the ME262 with the 50mm cannon? Seems like the worst option for this.

  • @Silentwrath4750
    @Silentwrath4750 Год назад +1

    we need more plane vs plane videos

  • @codenamecrusade1083
    @codenamecrusade1083 Год назад +1

    Sad the Meteor didn't get to fight there

  • @RMPalm2000
    @RMPalm2000 2 месяца назад

    would love to see this with second gen jets

  • @shoya3345
    @shoya3345 Год назад

    damn i really like this type of content

  • @kriptic626
    @kriptic626 Год назад +1

    Do Abrams against prop planes

  • @ATBatmanMALS31
    @ATBatmanMALS31 Год назад

    I mean... if you had Smigol, I think he's proven the answer is "1".

  • @bobbob646
    @bobbob646 Год назад +4

    Seeing everything get shot by the missiles is just boring

  • @f0xbrother
    @f0xbrother Год назад

    i have an idea why not trying 10 hstvl vs 10 2s38 or 20vs20

  • @ABPYAB
    @ABPYAB Год назад +1

    Oye como consejo creo que sería buena idea que en una esquina pongas a tiempo real el restante de vehículos en cada equipo :V

  • @DucksSpys
    @DucksSpys Год назад

    Hmm interesting to see that their missiles are their skill and life.

  • @legendcharizard1476
    @legendcharizard1476 Год назад +1

    The first part is just outright boring. Missile spam all the way, and 2nd round shows that pretty well after the two F-16s expended all their missiles.

  • @madmonsterbbb9131
    @madmonsterbbb9131 Год назад

    6:24 its like mere millimeters from crashing

  • @meepy2739
    @meepy2739 Год назад

    I love how there's a kikka

  • @kinmoto6096
    @kinmoto6096 Год назад

    Day 11 : OTOMATIC vs WII planes

  • @maxmachac9756
    @maxmachac9756 Год назад +1

    Damn, a team full of pilots that cant aim

  • @XDthedevilsrejectsXD
    @XDthedevilsrejectsXD Год назад

    Wow talk about a hopeless fight

  • @Master_Gabe_Gaming
    @Master_Gabe_Gaming Год назад +1

    Hi muffin…

  • @Dwarfiot
    @Dwarfiot 9 месяцев назад

    How do you get the f-16 faster

  • @katze3659
    @katze3659 Год назад

    "Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby"

  • @Jan-oj3zp
    @Jan-oj3zp Год назад +1

    In the first fight, something was unrealistic, namely the F16 has only six rockets and they do not recharge themselves in real life.

  • @lachlanrosser1284
    @lachlanrosser1284 Год назад

    I managed to shoot down a f-14 tomcat in a french monoplane with 20mms it took a good hour or two but I managed to do it.

  • @Fxne_wrxld
    @Fxne_wrxld Год назад

    Funny that when their missiles ran out they have no skill

  • @mexican-qe1jr
    @mexican-qe1jr Год назад

    Bro put all the guns available on the ME 262 just to try win against the f16 💀

  • @Monkeyseadew
    @Monkeyseadew Год назад

    Me wondering why none of the 262's led the f16 at a long range.

  • @dragongaming479
    @dragongaming479 Год назад

    me 262 is not actuly there first jet fighter the he 178 was also queston do you say it me 262 (like the me that talks about your self) or m e 262

  • @starwarsgeek1565S1
    @starwarsgeek1565S1 Год назад

    do MiGs vs later MiGs pls

  • @TheOtherAviationGuy
    @TheOtherAviationGuy Год назад

    Its how many missiles the F16 has and after that it’s done

  • @garrettobrien5197
    @garrettobrien5197 Год назад

    That first round was less. What can the f16 do. And more of. What can the aim9L do

  • @dakotasimms7270
    @dakotasimms7270 Год назад

    As much as I love the 262 the meteor is older

  • @mamarussellthepie3995
    @mamarussellthepie3995 Год назад

    Was gonna say something dumb like "Dude where tf did you find these lousy Viper drivers? XD" but then I realized WT players are not always the best lmao xD

  • @Lithslav
    @Lithslav Год назад

    Wdym "first jets"? Those are Me-262's, the Me-262 is not the first jet.. I don't wanna be a nerd but like- the first jet was the Heinkel He-178.. And if you still haven't realised the mistake maybe you could actually make the same thing but with actual He-178's? I would appreciate it. Ik it's a lot to ask [if you haven't done it already, prolly not] since you probaly don't have a lot of time and videos take hours to make and days to edit, but I [and some other nerds] appreciate you for taking your time to re do it [if you do, and we all appreciate you already but we will even more] so yeah, have a good day (:

    • @no-om9fg
      @no-om9fg Год назад

      The He-178's never saw combat so the me-262 is the first "operational" fighter jet

    • @Lithslav
      @Lithslav Год назад

      @@no-om9fg you got a point. But still, the He-178 exists

  • @gt95br67
    @gt95br67 Год назад +1

    I see a me 262 from Brazil

  • @TheTamingGamerXSKELLY
    @TheTamingGamerXSKELLY 3 месяца назад

    War muffin

  • @pedrim5969
    @pedrim5969 Год назад

    1:57 Brazil Showation

  • @fearjxnxk6284
    @fearjxnxk6284 Год назад

    against mig 15 would be interesting

  • @aklapotherpotherpothikrebh603
    @aklapotherpotherpothikrebh603 10 месяцев назад

    Need b29 vs all ww2 axis aircraft

  • @Rajveer_Singh68
    @Rajveer_Singh68 Год назад

    Bro Fired 69 missile from 1 F-16 it's not ACE Combat bro😂

  • @dev1stat0r37
    @dev1stat0r37 Год назад

    The F-14 is more of a legend than the F-16

  • @haloskillplayer
    @haloskillplayer Год назад

    who are these clowns flying the F-16, there is literally 0 reason for you to die to a 262, if that were me i would just never play war thunder ever again

  • @rawchicken3463
    @rawchicken3463 Год назад

    I think i said to do this one

  • @-PHANT0M
    @-PHANT0M Год назад

    With my skill the prop planes would kill me in the f16 within 1-2 minutes lol 🥲

  • @AntonBayerle-or9eo
    @AntonBayerle-or9eo Год назад

    retty boring that the f16 got his missels rep bc that just seems unfair

  • @alecsanchez8939
    @alecsanchez8939 Год назад

    P-59 vs MiG-29

  • @gamingwithmoxy3770
    @gamingwithmoxy3770 Год назад

    You shoud pick Mig 29

  • @Nakamax.
    @Nakamax. Год назад

    Why you sound like the war thunder narrator voice

  • @Onzaie
    @Onzaie Год назад

    i was there i died at 6:08 as well as 9:11 (i was Onzaie 1)

  • @TheTamingGamerXSKELLY
    @TheTamingGamerXSKELLY 3 месяца назад

    Nah I’d win in the me262 bcuz I got double teamed by f16 XD

  • @g3d2dgaming91
    @g3d2dgaming91 Год назад

    T35 VS Chr2c