ANTI-TANK MISSILES ONLY VS WW2 TANKS - How Well Can They Do? - WAR THUNDER

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @donovanchau3483
    @donovanchau3483 Год назад +155

    Considering that T-34s, Panzer IVs, and M4s served well beyond WWII in other countries during the Cold War, I bet there’s gotta be a few instances of them being hit by ATGMs. There’s also an instance where a T-34 memorial was used as a decoy in Ukraine

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Год назад +29

      Yeah I would think so too!

    • @alexshepherd1741
      @alexshepherd1741 Год назад +7

      I heard that the T-34 is still in service with some African countries. I don't know if this is true or not.

    • @news_internationale2035
      @news_internationale2035 Год назад +8

      Yeah, it seems plausible a T-34 could have been hit by an ATGM in the Yugoslav wars.

    • @chocolatesandwichesofficia8445
      @chocolatesandwichesofficia8445 Год назад

      @@alexshepherd1741 the democratic republic of congo uses them - they work fine when all you're doing is depressing rebel groups and protesters

    • @MPdude237
      @MPdude237 Год назад +4

      There was an SU-100 in Syria that got taken out by a TOW missile. Or further back in the Yom Kippur War, Isreal was still using Sherman tanks (albeit many were upgraded ones) that faced the infamous AT-3 Sagger missile (Soviet Designation: 9M14 “Malyutka”)

  • @alexshepherd1741
    @alexshepherd1741 Год назад +53

    It seems to me that the fault of modern tanks is that they underestimated the danger of old tanks at the beginning of the round. They realized their situation too late, when they could do nothing, and were surrounded. The last T-90 played well, fighting to the last, but he was left alone, and there were too many opponents.

    • @enkhmunkh4763
      @enkhmunkh4763 Год назад +1

      Sometimes numbers are better than technology

    • @colonel_cookies_
      @colonel_cookies_ Год назад +9

      I was in T-80BVM, but yeah even if I had one shot every single one of them I didn't had enough missiles, if my teamates did a little bit more kills I may could winning that round.

  • @johncee853
    @johncee853 Год назад +56

    Can't believe that you are still coming up with interesting scenarios! Well done Mr Muffin!

  • @Azerton
    @Azerton Год назад +10

    The answer to your question is surprisingly yes! There's a video of a t-34 being used as a gun emplacement in Yemen getting struck by an ATGM, I found a copy here on RUclips; ruclips.net/video/17zNO-PduVw/видео.html (Also great video!)

  • @SuperDiablo101
    @SuperDiablo101 Год назад +31

    this really does highlight how good the WWII puma is if used correctly i use it all the time and im almost at Tier 4 not to mention the artillery/spotting ability with a full crew

    • @admiraltee
      @admiraltee Год назад +5

      Yeah, Puma's can punch well above their weight class.

    • @alexshepherd1741
      @alexshepherd1741 Год назад +1

      Exactly. Puma and BT are too good to fight only on their own BR.

    • @n1co2017
      @n1co2017 Год назад +1

      yeah i got 2 nukes in it one at 9.7 and another at 10.7

  • @kriptic626
    @kriptic626 Год назад +140

    Am I the only one who uses anti tank missiles against air craft?

  • @Walking654
    @Walking654 Год назад +26

    Nice work Muffin! I love these new and creative ideas! (Maybe you could do something with the biggest planes vs the smallest planes?)

  • @addygreen8919
    @addygreen8919 Год назад +10

    Suggestion: Best WW2 vehicles vs worst post WW2 vehicles
    This could maybe be done with 5 or 10 different vehicles on each side.

  • @Fizzyxd
    @Fizzyxd Год назад +3

    The reason the aim looks so shaky when you have replays is because it's footage recorded from the server, and the server doesn't compensate for the lag that people have when demos are recorded

  • @insignificant3386
    @insignificant3386 Год назад +9

    WWII tanks and ATGMs have some equal level of visions... during the day that is.
    When night falls, ATGMs become nocturnal beasts and their maximum potential is formed like how Escanor is at full power when it is noon and depowered during nighttime.

  • @oelholm
    @oelholm Год назад +4

    This unbelievably fun, thanks again muffin❤

  • @Gearedfilm57
    @Gearedfilm57 Год назад +1

    @Thunder Muffin, the only battle that comes to mind that closest resembles atgms vs. ww2 tanks would be yom kipper war. When Egypt used 1st gen atgms against Israel, who had m51 shermans, m48 pattons, and centurions. Although i dont know if any M51s were actually engaged by atgms.

  • @jlawsl
    @jlawsl Год назад

    There are still T34s being used, in combat by Houthi rebels in Yemen, even videos on youtube. Also, M36s were still in use in countries until recently. Chaffees are still in use by a few countries, some M8 and M5s are still used in upgraded variants.

  • @benpurcell4935
    @benpurcell4935 Год назад +2

    The war that most likely that ATGMs would have gone against WW2 era tanks is the Yom Kippur War in 1972. Also I guess the civil war in Yemen there was a case of an ATGM destroyed a T-34-85.

  • @clumsynomad1478
    @clumsynomad1478 Год назад +2

    16:45 truly sad I didn't pay attention and got that shot on me still I guess it was quite hard to miss anyway xD

  • @ItalianStarAnimations
    @ItalianStarAnimations Год назад +2

    Hi Muffin. I participated in this challenge rounds 2 going on, and I have to admit I kinda cheated because I was told the M41A1 Walker Bulldog was allowed, and it has NVD, so I could see during the night battles :/

  • @YoItsMeAzriel
    @YoItsMeAzriel Год назад +1

    i still remember colonel cookies from the heli vs drones video and tbh he plays it tactical and carefully really good

  • @manhvo242
    @manhvo242 Год назад +1

    6:14 bro guided the missile from the grave

  • @tianhaoju4634
    @tianhaoju4634 Год назад

    two weeks ago when I was playing China 8.7 I came across a full downtier, moments after I entered the position in my AFT I saw a maus rolling down the road, and fluently slammed a 1200mm pen tandem-HEAT ATGM on his UFP and promptly sending him back to the hanger

  • @nineonine9082
    @nineonine9082 Год назад +3

    Would have loved to bring my Cromwell RP3, just for some sweet sweet karma points.

  • @Serbian-Templar
    @Serbian-Templar Год назад

    A hint to deal with missiles,bind a convenient key to the option to switch gunner ain to your Top mounted machinegun in order to shoot missiles down much more reliably

  • @robertcoldwell4742
    @robertcoldwell4742 Год назад +1

    I think maybe in some of the early Arab Israeli wars, many Israeli upgraded Shermans/Pattons were hit by early atgms when advancing in areas where they weren't aware of the dangers posed by man portable atgms. I think this was in the early 60s but I can't remember

  • @goldenarmygames6936
    @goldenarmygames6936 Год назад +2

    that truly was fun

  • @aapopesonen2902
    @aapopesonen2902 Год назад +2

    Maybe the fastest vs the slowest plane? I think this would be PO-2 vs F-104.

  • @siroglethorpe311
    @siroglethorpe311 Год назад +4

    I’m so close to getting the American squad tank with the missiles lol

  • @RadiantCataclysm
    @RadiantCataclysm Год назад

    great video man, you are so creative and you're such a good narrator. even improving as a narrator.

  • @DEFCONINFINITY
    @DEFCONINFINITY Год назад

    I feel like round 2 was super winnable for the ATGM side, they just didn't use their advantages very well.

  • @kriptic626
    @kriptic626 Год назад +2

    Do Abrams against prop planes

  • @silentact1
    @silentact1 Год назад +1

    Can you do a B17 Formation Vs Me 109‘a and 262’s? Or Royal Navy vs Kriegsmarine?

  • @xdmarioss
    @xdmarioss Год назад +1

    Yeah in cyprus 1974 i think,some cypriot t34s where hit by turkish rpgs

  • @IronGuard24
    @IronGuard24 Год назад

    I recall during the conflict in Syria a few ago pictures of a few WW2 era tanks in use popped up, notably pictures of a destroyed Soviet tank destroyer taken out by a missle. There were debates on K board on 4chan of what kind of tank it was and how many were in use. Apparently after WW2 Syria ended up with outdated from Soviet and German origins, some of which may have just sat in warehouses after being retired only to be reactivated in the civil war, other examples include pictures of German Stg-44s rifles in use and I think there was also a single late generation Panzer IV that showed up in some images dug in as a fixed defense.

  • @boneman19
    @boneman19 Год назад +1

    the Taliban and others used the isu152 so probably

  • @underworldgameshd69
    @underworldgameshd69 Год назад

    I think a good challenge would be tanks using only their main cannons, no machine guns, guided missiles, or AA, to take out bombers.

  • @TheArbiter1721
    @TheArbiter1721 Год назад +1

    This is just 6.7 the custom game

  • @ahhkaraj
    @ahhkaraj Год назад +1

    Israel did have MIM-23 HAWK surface-to-air missiles in the six day war so maybe they had ATGMs too idk? The Arab countries did use WW2 tanks in the war too

  • @basil_burrito
    @basil_burrito Год назад

    18:51 well, if you count T-54 (1947) a WWII vehicle, then I'd say soon there very much might be such an instance...

  • @c0ldyloxproductions324
    @c0ldyloxproductions324 Год назад

    Panthers don’t have much wobble so not too worried about fast aiming on it

  • @colonel_cookies_
    @colonel_cookies_ Год назад +2

    Yeah I was sweating during the 2nd round, I couldn't win it by I tried the best as I could : )
    btw in round 3 did we only saw my POV ? 😆

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Год назад +1

      You did good and yes, I just picked the player that did the best that round because with night vision on the atgm side it’s not very pleasant to watch imo and just wanted to do a quick highlight of what happened:)

    • @ronaldraygun5089
      @ronaldraygun5089 Год назад

      That’s how the *cookie* crumbles.

  • @Gary_The_Metro
    @Gary_The_Metro Год назад

    I don't think the ATGM's will win, could very well be wrong but like.. the ATGM's take quite long to arrive, and can be quite squishy.
    In the meanwhile normal WW2 tanks can still just engage at long range for a lot of the ATGM carriers. And for the more tanky ones all they need to do is come up to a closer range by flanking. Not to mention the ATGM's very long reload.. I don't like their odds.

  • @chocolat-kun8689
    @chocolat-kun8689 Год назад

    You should stick with only ATGM carriers, it is not even fair that a T90 or a T80 is in the field. Make it so that the WW2 tanks can kill the ATGM carrier no matter what range.

  • @Tacticalsnails
    @Tacticalsnails Год назад

    One atgm carrier they have done dirty is the swing fire the swingfire atgm is insane being able to do 90° turns in thr air

  • @endo3po671
    @endo3po671 Год назад +1

    jolly good show

  • @Mika.TheKing
    @Mika.TheKing Год назад

    9:01 the fucking l3/33 surrounded by the tigers II and maus.

  • @LogI_Bear
    @LogI_Bear Год назад +1

    Gaijin needs to work on there replay system

  • @randomuser5443
    @randomuser5443 Год назад +4

    Shocked no one is using the ADATS and bmp2m in round 1

    • @TheSchultinator
      @TheSchultinator Год назад

      ADATS at least may not count, since it's an AA system technically?

    • @russian_spy2205
      @russian_spy2205 Год назад

      ​@@TheSchultinatorit's not like t80 is a missile carrier

    • @russian_spy2205
      @russian_spy2205 Год назад

      Honestly I'm always a bit pissed off about teams not using best stuff, like they all should be t80s or bmp2ms

    • @russian_spy2205
      @russian_spy2205 Год назад

      They all should have stayed together abused smoke

  • @alexshield7532
    @alexshield7532 Год назад

    I'm imagening that i have heard that panzer 4s where used in the 6 days war between israel and aegypt, etc. That would work from the timeline but i haven't seen any records of it happening.

  • @wiggymcgee22
    @wiggymcgee22 Год назад

    muffin could you do a challenge
    (kv-85 versus 1 maus
    5, 10, 15 kv-85
    1, 2, 3, maus
    so every 5 kv-85 there is one more maus added
    I hope you can consider this
    (I know that you did 1945 ussr versus maus I’m kinda just switching it up a bit)
    or maybe 60 l3/33 ccs versus 5 kv-85s?

  • @hayden-hr8gq
    @hayden-hr8gq 9 месяцев назад

    I’ve heard that an SU 100 got knocked out by an atgm. I forget where though

  • @MPdude237
    @MPdude237 Год назад

    13:13 Not really. ATGMs typically need large projectile diameters to be effective these days. Gun fired ATGMs are simply not large enough to penetrate the frontal armor of a modern MBT. Gun fired missiles top out a 900mm of penetration and modern MBTs typically have over 1000mm of RHAe for HEAT on their frontal armor. I think gun fired missiles are most useful as a way of dealing with armored targets out of range if the main gun, especially to deal with IFVs or ATGM carriers that can outrange conventional rounds fired from the main gun.

  • @noahsawesomevids422
    @noahsawesomevids422 Год назад

    Awesome 😎 hope I can join some time

  • @dominicvestal3716
    @dominicvestal3716 Год назад

    You do ww2 heavy tanks vs modern light tanks

  • @monke6915
    @monke6915 Год назад

    What about Helicopters with bombs vs heavy tanks/Maus 🤔

  • @calamitist
    @calamitist 3 месяца назад

    bringing t80 and mbt70 is just criminal

  • @breemy2242
    @breemy2242 Год назад

    Im pretty sure that israel actually used a panzer IV 70 till the 1990’s
    Or Well they had it written as a reserve and it was retired around that time

  • @mikalodian
    @mikalodian Год назад

    Idea for a new video, maybe do American or British VTOL’s, against Russia’s new VTOL. A 5v5 or how ever many to see which country has the better VTOL.

  • @giovannibonifati
    @giovannibonifati Год назад

    Title WW2 tanks, thumbnail; flak half-track

  • @ttonin33
    @ttonin33 Год назад

    There can use the engine smoke and lock with thermals throug it so only making the enemy bliend.

  • @c0ldyloxproductions324
    @c0ldyloxproductions324 Год назад

    Also the panther 2 does have night vision and I really thing gaijin should add night vision to the normal panther a or g, also Israel had used Sherman’s all the way into to 70s so there is the possibility some may have been hit by an atgm

    • @oelholm
      @oelholm Год назад

      but they didnt have night vision irl

    • @c0ldyloxproductions324
      @c0ldyloxproductions324 Год назад

      @@oelholm yes they did the panther a & g models were equipped in limited numbers with night vision systems, and before u say that’s not true there are images proving it and a museum has a panther with all the mounts for the system on the tank still its just missing the infrared light and nvd scope

  • @neneseal5182
    @neneseal5182 9 месяцев назад

    lol, if you disregard the atgm vs ww2 part, thats basically how the soviet win ww2

  • @araara_seraph6335
    @araara_seraph6335 Год назад

    God the second round i spent most the time trying to get a Maus and another tank seperated xD

  • @kinmoto6096
    @kinmoto6096 Год назад

    Day 12 : OTOMATIC vs WII planes

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER Год назад

    Muffin: war thunders replay system kinda sucks
    When does it not? 😅😂

  • @dexwy
    @dexwy Год назад

    Funny thing, the asu 57 has nightvision😂

  • @-Shadow__Rider-
    @-Shadow__Rider- Год назад

    High tier players situational awareness in a nutshell...

  • @The-war-thunderfighter.
    @The-war-thunderfighter. Год назад

    Oh yes the famous ww2 t95

  • @news_internationale2035
    @news_internationale2035 Год назад

    How's about AA missiles only against WW2 tanks?

  • @Vibakari
    @Vibakari Год назад

    Idk why didn’t the ww2 tank team just spam a bunch of smoke shells lmao

  • @Fuzkin
    @Fuzkin Год назад

    Some of the teams in these videos look no better than npcs

  • @Derringer_pirate
    @Derringer_pirate Год назад

    If I had time to do this event I would have tried to use the bmp2m or raketenjagd hot if it was allowed.

    • @robingrewal8103
      @robingrewal8103 Год назад

      If someone used the bmp2m it would have been a massacre

  • @Asiturk
    @Asiturk Год назад

    early ww2 tanks: t34-85?

  • @rabbitsarepro
    @rabbitsarepro Год назад

    If all of them were 15cm tanks or kv-2s or strum tigers they'll rekt the atgms

  • @antoniopereiradasilva1517
    @antoniopereiradasilva1517 Год назад +15

    May God bless whoever is reading this comment 🙌

  • @anthonymilone9633
    @anthonymilone9633 Год назад

    i was the maus cant belive i got stuck inside of a tiger too

  • @goldenapple3970
    @goldenapple3970 Год назад

    ATGM (in the thumbnail) actually stands for air to ground missile...

    • @Slungus_bunny69
      @Slungus_bunny69 Год назад

      No it doesnt. It stands for Anti Tank Guided Missile

    • @oelholm
      @oelholm Год назад

      no it does not

  • @Tanspotty
    @Tanspotty Год назад

    Could there be SPAA VS SPAA as one?

  • @NotAreaSP
    @NotAreaSP Год назад

    Sheridan is always be safe of ATGM

  • @jarrid2853
    @jarrid2853 Год назад

    What happened to anti tank missiles only?

  • @kittylove0921
    @kittylove0921 Год назад

    Lol aimer wouldn't it count as a reticle though?

  • @brewski8133
    @brewski8133 Год назад

    Im the m53/59 that got killed at 2:10 and I left instantly lol

  • @kevingetty8929
    @kevingetty8929 Год назад +1

    bigy cheese

  • @ihappened01
    @ihappened01 Год назад

    you will have to redo this now the atgms have been changed

  • @kaitotara734
    @kaitotara734 Год назад +1

    6.7 in nutshell😊

  • @ww2_warrior615
    @ww2_warrior615 Год назад

    Average gameplay in the Tiger II H:

  • @mr.tweaty
    @mr.tweaty Год назад

    tldw, puma scary

  • @DonetskResident
    @DonetskResident Год назад

    🥶

  • @erickcredidiooliveira201
    @erickcredidiooliveira201 Год назад

    The Centurion is consider WW2 ish?

  • @bigants1463
    @bigants1463 Год назад

    Imagine using ATGMs now they are so useless

  • @Chaffee_
    @Chaffee_ Год назад

    I cried when that L3 died 🫡

    • @oelholm
      @oelholm Год назад

      i felt so bad after killing him:(

  • @TainstoneGIM
    @TainstoneGIM Год назад

    Katusha vs bm 31 12

  • @theThundercatsarehere
    @theThundercatsarehere Год назад

    In Iraq that was a Sherman that got hit by an atgm

  • @sgxbot
    @sgxbot Год назад

    you want to see ww2 tanks getting hit by atgms? ukraine war is pretty close to it. tanks from just a few years after ww2 against javelins

  • @huntershark88
    @huntershark88 Год назад

    3:10 that was way over 1000 meters not 400

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Год назад

    How about the modern tanks fight ww2 tanks with thermals turned off.

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Год назад +1

      Did it in a previous vid of T-34’s and M4 vs modern tanks that couldn’t use their tech

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Год назад +1

      @@ThunderWithMuffin but could you do a video showdown between thr L3 and the M22 Locust?

  • @tommasofrogli8065
    @tommasofrogli8065 Год назад

    Does anyone know how the replay in warthunder works for ps4?

    • @joakimjensen309
      @joakimjensen309 Год назад +1

      a random guy in the reddit comments from 7-10 years ago probberly does

  • @socksfrog1713
    @socksfrog1713 Год назад +1

    Ham

  • @M1A2_AbramsSEPv3
    @M1A2_AbramsSEPv3 Год назад

    Bungus?

  • @Tchupreck
    @Tchupreck Год назад

    China vs japan

  • @rain89skarlet80
    @rain89skarlet80 Год назад

    thermals ruin high tier gameplay

  • @michaeltang1793
    @michaeltang1793 Год назад

    panther tanks are being used in ukraine

  • @Swedishthunder131
    @Swedishthunder131 Год назад

    L3 😭😭😭