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  • @leobramrock8933
    @leobramrock8933 9 месяцев назад +1135

    It was Japan bias all along.

    • @risingsun37
      @risingsun37 9 месяцев назад +71

      japan bias based

    • @ClownAsleep
      @ClownAsleep 9 месяцев назад +38

      Best countries are Italy France and Japan

    • @familyjobe853
      @familyjobe853 9 месяцев назад +34

      *sweden entered the chat

    • @risingsun37
      @risingsun37 9 месяцев назад +20

      japan wwii late war prototypes were insane

    • @familyjobe853
      @familyjobe853 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@risingsun37 sadly aime of them are fake like the big heavy tank destroyer

  • @waltuh-Ag
    @waltuh-Ag 9 месяцев назад +349

    Bro confused weeks with years 💀☠️

    • @SCPFoundationist
      @SCPFoundationist 3 месяца назад +1

      Nah, I got to BR 4.0 in 9 hours

    • @alexismunoz2822
      @alexismunoz2822 3 месяца назад +15

      Cap ​@@SCPFoundationist

    • @SCPFoundationist
      @SCPFoundationist 3 месяца назад

      @@alexismunoz2822 Of continuous non-stop grind (only arcade, air battles)

    • @KrangusCZ
      @KrangusCZ 3 месяца назад +7

      @@SCPFoundationist now do it again go from 4.0 to 8.0 and tell me how fast was it XD you have no idea

    • @SCPFoundationist
      @SCPFoundationist 3 месяца назад +1

      @@KrangusCZ Okay, bet

  • @Not_honest_enough
    @Not_honest_enough 9 месяцев назад +366

    Three and a half weeks to get to top tier USSR? More like three and a half years 💀

    • @thegreenlandicgamer
      @thegreenlandicgamer  9 месяцев назад +30

      Atleast three and a half weeks :D

    • @Not_honest_enough
      @Not_honest_enough 9 месяцев назад +64

      @@thegreenlandicgamer if you sell your soul and mental stability yes😂

    • @SCPFoundationist
      @SCPFoundationist 3 месяца назад +8

      @@thegreenlandicgamer You're right
      I played about 9 hours on USSR tech tree and I am at 4.0 BR
      Yes, I play only arcade, I get more points in arcade than in realistic battles

    • @mentally-stable-human
      @mentally-stable-human 2 месяца назад +10

      ​@@thegreenlandicgamer as a person who never had a premium accout or premium vehicles.
      Nah bro i don't want to hear that shit.
      It tookme almost 2 years to partially reach 12.0 br in USSR

    • @Flydarkside06
      @Flydarkside06 2 месяца назад +4

      You can only achieve it with skill I have been playing for 3 years and I still haven’t even reached 6.0

  • @ezwins7971
    @ezwins7971 9 месяцев назад +1304

    There is no way a new player without premium could get to the top of the us tech tree in a month. I am a very good player and it took me about 25 days to get the Israeli tech tree researched, idk where you got that number from but I doubt even a veteran player spending 6 hours a day could research to the top of the us tech tree in a month without premium...

    • @okcoolbro7971
      @okcoolbro7971 9 месяцев назад +113

      i am only playing wyvern with premium account whilst not beeing good and its nowhere enough time. It takes ages

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain 9 месяцев назад +108

      I’ve played for 120 hours (about 2/3 of that with premium) only on the US and I’m only halfway through tier IV

    • @justahyena8869
      @justahyena8869 9 месяцев назад +60

      His Germany estimate for air is way off too, it seems he ignores at every level of jets, Germany is behind and struggles compared to what they're up against

    • @kevito05lp44
      @kevito05lp44 9 месяцев назад +39

      @@Iden_in_the_Rainim 400 hours f2p and finished with Tier 4

    • @AdaaDK
      @AdaaDK 9 месяцев назад

      @@okcoolbro7971 Get good, farming with a prem plane is rather ez. Few things to note, 1. get score/kills/asisst/ground hits -> Land/rearm/suvive -> Repeat, if you mannage this and have a positive W/R highest posible of course, getting 15k+ exp per game shouldnt be hard, esp considering how op the wywern is for its BR. Main focus here is suvival and winning matches + the landing part. Since landing provides you about 50% extra score of the calgulated points you obtained before the landing, and suvival adds anorther 5-10% on top. + winning is about 50% bonus RP too if i recall correctly.

  • @jov_9658
    @jov_9658 9 месяцев назад +237

    "Its most likely take atleast a month to get to top tier"
    Me who stuck in tier 2 U.S Air tech tree for 6 months:

    • @rogercop9229
      @rogercop9229 9 месяцев назад +7

      For real 💀

    • @sideways6087
      @sideways6087 9 месяцев назад +11

      skill issue

    • @Jack-nm4vz
      @Jack-nm4vz 9 месяцев назад +4

      How is it possible to get it in ONE MONTH

    • @skye_music
      @skye_music 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@Jack-nm4vz So I calculated it would take 62 days if you were playing non stop 15 minute matches and making an average RP of 1100. Which is horrible nobody got that much time. 1100 rp because I suck at Air battles

    • @ARCrusader
      @ARCrusader 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@skye_music At T1 I'm making about 1300RP per battle in the airforce without premium modifier. I do imagine this speeds up a little at the higher ranks as there appears to be a modifier for more research on the higher tier vehicles. I'm seeing a few reddit posts that it's not uncommon to see 6-7k RP per match at higher BRs, but I imagine one needs consistently great matches to make the math work.

  • @medos9854
    @medos9854 9 месяцев назад +474

    If you know how he plays French tanks, we're a real threat. But for that you must first succeed in overcoming the low tier, I think that's what scares many beginners. France has many unique tanks that set it apart from other nations.

    • @thegreenlandicgamer
      @thegreenlandicgamer  9 месяцев назад +38

      They do indeed, but not many that a new player would be much eager to get.

    • @Idontknowlol595
      @Idontknowlol595 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@thegreenlandicgamerdo you think mobile port will get mbts I mean yeah it’s kinda intense I just wanna see more content like jets and shit

    • @egg3666
      @egg3666 9 месяцев назад +12

      I would say the state of low tier France is leagues better then it used to be. The amc 35 is not a bad car at all and you get a lot of good vehicles. only real issue is most guns at that no tier(reserve) gets either explosive filler or larger shells. I'm with you though that for a new player its def not a beginner friendly nation.

    • @ClownAsleep
      @ClownAsleep 9 месяцев назад +32

      @@thegreenlandicgamer that's gaijin fault France is mainly played by veterans or French people like me. The consequence are high stats on vehicles that are average and get nerfed because the snail hate good stats on French vehicles

    • @R1FB
      @R1FB 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@thegreenlandicgamerlil fact : the israeli kfir is just a mirage renamed

  • @tiborszabo981
    @tiborszabo981 9 месяцев назад +76

    took me over 7 years(with breaks) to research full soviet ground tree, half of soviet air tree, half american ground, 70% german ground and all other would be from 0-20% researched. Took me 6 years without premium and one year of premium. I also used real money to help me alot. I also bought some premium vehicles to hellp me grind. there is no way one would research ANY tree in a month. Its literally impossible

    • @Adam_yourlocalgrinder
      @Adam_yourlocalgrinder 9 месяцев назад +3

      It took me 1 month and a half the get to 5.7 with ussr with breaks and no premium

    • @tiborszabo981
      @tiborszabo981 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@Adam_yourlocalgrinder getting to 5.7 is managable. But going higher is hard

    • @Adam_yourlocalgrinder
      @Adam_yourlocalgrinder 9 месяцев назад

      @@tiborszabo981 ik bro

    • @novemberoncrack
      @novemberoncrack 4 месяца назад

      grinded italy air in 14 days with only premium account and swedish air in 5 days with premium account and premium J35XS

    • @p0ssive
      @p0ssive Месяц назад

      i got sweden 12.7 in a month with premium

  • @Tooslw
    @Tooslw 9 месяцев назад +186

    Great video but I don’t think anyone is going to get to top tier in three weeks or a month

    • @CrazySummerDude
      @CrazySummerDude 9 месяцев назад +2

      Fr

    • @TheFatDwarfHugo
      @TheFatDwarfHugo 9 месяцев назад +25

      I got to sweden top tier in 3 days with prem and a prem tank. all you have to do i throw money at gaijin xD btw i do not recommend it, at the end i was so dead inside.

    • @gabrielhenrique3547
      @gabrielhenrique3547 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, you can.

    • @MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL
      @MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL 9 месяцев назад

      @@gabrielhenrique3547dont make enough silver lions

    • @mfw9902
      @mfw9902 9 месяцев назад +28

      ​@@TheFatDwarfHugo3 days biggest pile of bs I've read in a month

  • @rafaelleal5337
    @rafaelleal5337 9 месяцев назад +33

    Love how bro pulls data and top tier times from deep in his ass and then rates em based on that😂

    • @bobstalong
      @bobstalong 3 месяца назад +6

      Fr what a shitty tier list

  • @MrAaDdRr
    @MrAaDdRr 8 месяцев назад +67

    Another criteria for this tierlist should be the amount of easy/enjoyable vehicles each tech tree offers. These vehicles are considered nearly OP, easy to learn etc. This way new players can use and abuse em for research grinding and silver farming. Also the higher BR the vehicle is, is a plus as higher tiers tend to get grindy

    • @dominuslogik484
      @dominuslogik484 6 месяцев назад +15

      I feel like those Heat maps really just proved that the big 3 US, USSR and Germany are played by the most players and so they have really low win rates lol. there is no way that Russia is actually bad in the 2.7 - 6.3 range as those are some of the most ridiculously easy to play vehicles of any tree with Solid armor, reliable guns and APHE pretty much guaranteed to one-shot everything in their BR ranges.

    • @Iamyolomonkey-ed2gh
      @Iamyolomonkey-ed2gh 5 месяцев назад

      M22, the Swedish reserve tanks (they have sabot rounds), etc

  • @FishFlys
    @FishFlys 9 месяцев назад +215

    i wouldnt mind a 20mm tierlist for the aircraft cannons in game (ie shvaks, anm2, M3, MG151, etc.)

    • @lonemarkkingoftypos3722
      @lonemarkkingoftypos3722 9 месяцев назад +6

      Include real shatter changes too. 20mm Ho-5 which is considered one of the worst 20mm for Air just became great.

    • @sideways6087
      @sideways6087 9 месяцев назад

      i doesnt make sence to make this video cause gaijin change the damage of the guns 67 times every day

    • @cherrymolotov
      @cherrymolotov 9 месяцев назад +3

      ⁠@@lonemarkkingoftypos3722the japanese 20mm type 99 mod. 2 on the A6M5 is such a wonderful weapon against fighters

    • @satriabagaskara4198
      @satriabagaskara4198 7 месяцев назад +3

      minengechoss go brr...

  • @KhanGirey
    @KhanGirey 9 месяцев назад +162

    I think general winrate is a bad way to conduct any sort of analysis because it is often offset by sales of premium vehicles. The Soviet winrate tanked after the Turms came out.
    Another thing of note, is that if you look at Japan, 10.0 for ground RB simply doesn't exist. (there is a black hole of 9.3 to 11.0) The winrates are more indicative of what nations Japan gets placed alongside with. Similarly, it is important to think about what lineups you can get for what battle ratings. Japan has 4 vehicles higher than 10.0, all of them being MBTs. Russia, has at least 16.

    • @brunocardoso6641
      @brunocardoso6641 9 месяцев назад +3

      tbh it also very sketch winrates because 8.7 has the object 279 its not op but its very good anyone who plays it normally are pro players and get tons of kills same with the turms

    • @user-rb7kg3nd6g
      @user-rb7kg3nd6g 8 месяцев назад +1

      Problem with soviet lineups is that they are quite not good™, cuz t72 lane is pepe popo tier except t90/72b3. T 80 are good, but if you don't count squadron veh, there are only 3 of them, and 80b is clearly don't match even 10.0 of other major nations. 2s25 is alright, you get t72 gun with good mobility, but you are litteraly a glass canon. Than there is cursed atgm, and there are Pantsir, which is completely not busted™. But before pantsir every other country exept sov and sweden has a IR AAA with interference prot, so it depends.

    • @user-rb7kg3nd6g
      @user-rb7kg3nd6g 8 месяцев назад

      I hope that my english was at least readable, have a good day, random stranger.❤

    • @aidenrogers1468
      @aidenrogers1468 8 месяцев назад +1

      This tierlist is just bad overall, Japan is one of the worst nations you can play, and will just make any noob quit the game for good(if they play ground or get far enough to use jets) not only that Japan has no good SPAA. France has bad early game but some of the strongest lineups are french ground and mirage's are okay with magic 2's. Russia and Usa should both be S tier because they are always gonna get everything first while others gets stuff last. Sweden and Britain are the Only A tiers imo, Sweden has some really strong lineups, and Britain is slowly getting better, Italy got a little bump with the Hungarian tree so ill give them a B, Germany gets a B because they are constantly being nerfed(See tiger uptiered changes recently) China ill put them in a C along with Israel, China has a good aviation and some good light vehicles but the main tanks suffer like soviet tanks with bad reverse speed and in chinas case worse armor, Israel is a C due to not having much variety in ground, the air tree has some decent planes and a unique F16d variant

    • @kaijuslayer3334
      @kaijuslayer3334 6 месяцев назад

      @@aidenrogers1468Japan’s is overhyped in terms of it being a horrible nation. Its navy and air are both very capable compared to other nations, and their ground forces only has a iffy start in reserve but once you get the ball rolling and know what vehicles to get, its not that bad. Especially when despite their poor armor, it’s also just as common to find the trend of very good guns in the Japanese tech tree. And once you get to mid and high tier, they regularly can keep up with other nations.

  • @Mikey-yk5hj
    @Mikey-yk5hj 9 месяцев назад +33

    Ussr and USA Bias is starting to get annoying.

    • @EnricoPucci52
      @EnricoPucci52 9 месяцев назад +5

      German main

    • @LEGOFAN-123
      @LEGOFAN-123 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes

    • @BagPiper02
      @BagPiper02 9 месяцев назад

      As a German main, I get why some people are frustrated, but we're at the point now in WT where the US and Russia have so many vehicles while other nations don't.
      For the time being its a matter of giving the US and Russia their respectable vehicles, and then having to come up with something for the other nations because their next vehicles would be way too strong/advanced, nations such as Britain, Sweden, Germany, etc.
      TLDR: All the other nations are stuck with copy/paste until the US/Russia catch up with the other nations' best tech.

    • @F-16Viper72
      @F-16Viper72 7 месяцев назад +2

      German bias

  • @rohanpreis6883
    @rohanpreis6883 9 месяцев назад +133

    As an Italy main it makes me sad that Italy got 10/20 but China got 11/20

    • @Travgard
      @Travgard 9 месяцев назад +23

      Yes, but on the tierlist France got F tier 💀

    • @MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL
      @MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL 9 месяцев назад

      Italy is a w nation

    • @DiavoloGrenadine
      @DiavoloGrenadine 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@TravgardEven tho french military vehicles irl are way better than italians ones..

    • @Humphree
      @Humphree 9 месяцев назад +6

      Well as someone who has top tier in both I can confirm china is more fun and better

    • @rohanpreis6883
      @rohanpreis6883 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Humphree Well of course because they have the broken unbalanced ZTZ tanks or whatever lol

  • @sweatybotfn9982
    @sweatybotfn9982 8 месяцев назад +33

    Personally chinese tech tree is the best because you work a little to grind the early tiers but after that the tech tree has some of the best top tier experience ever. Plus you get to play and try a bit of everything in a single tech tree from mid tier

    • @RichardMontgomeryYT
      @RichardMontgomeryYT 7 месяцев назад +5

      Having played Sweden and Britain Air arcade before it, China is the best of the 3 imo.

    • @FilHor
      @FilHor 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah but you have to play as China. That's the real reason why the Chinese tech tree sucks.

    • @sweatybotfn9982
      @sweatybotfn9982 3 месяца назад +1

      @@FilHor I don’t see anything wrong

  • @bananko8018
    @bananko8018 9 месяцев назад +20

    I've played as the USA, USSR, China, Japan and France. France was the best for me. I think it is just a bit underrated, but I understand why people wouldn't play it.

    • @jonathans.955
      @jonathans.955 9 месяцев назад +1

      I bought the sherman Prem and haven't played it since sadly because I want to grind out Russia first. But I think I am going to enjoy France. Well once I get out of low tier at least

    • @monfortnicolas5448
      @monfortnicolas5448 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@jonathans.955 S35 and D2 are monsters. Just angle ank keep your distyance a bit, the gun while not the best has enough punch to go through your opponent but they wont be able to go through you

  • @ArchVile98
    @ArchVile98 9 месяцев назад +75

    What you forgot to mention is that a new player must reach rank 4 in one other nation before they can jump to Israel for both air and ground.
    For ground you need to have a rank 4 vehicle unlocked and bought from either USA, UK, USSR or France (one of the nations is enough) and for air you need a vehicle from either USA, UK or France (no USSR since they didn't capture aircraft). So that is very variable since there's a different amount of vehicles in the nations from above from rank 1 to rank 4 and then you add the 20 vehicles needed.

  • @sasin2715
    @sasin2715 9 месяцев назад +9

    bros calculating the RP thinking everyone gets 10 kills per game

  • @user-do7qk3dv9e
    @user-do7qk3dv9e 7 месяцев назад +19

    French native vehicle that i think could be considered as legendary : Somua 35 (1.3), Renault 35 (1.3), Panhard 35 (A.M.D 35 reserve) B1 bis, 2C, VAB, VCBI 2, Leclerc, AMX 30, AMX 50, AMX 13 (one of the first tanks made after the liberation)
    Morane-Saulnier 406 (2.0) Potez 633 (1.3), Dewoitine 520, Marcel Bloc 157 (3.3), Farman 222.2 / NC 223 (upgraded version) -> The first plane that bombed Berlin, Mirage III, Mirage F1C, Mirage 2000 (C, 5F, D-R1 included), Tiger (HAP and HAD included)
    So i consider France has 21 legendary planes. (mainly known in France for most but this is my opinion)

    • @staszekr03
      @staszekr03 6 месяцев назад +7

      Overall just a bad tierlist. It should have been based off uniqueness and fun to play. China is just skip, France, UK, Sweden should be moved up to A USA goes down to C or D as you can experience most the tech tree in other tech trees. Israel goes to D

    • @topace1038
      @topace1038 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@staszekr03France is not A tier stop the cap. Maybe in air yes but that early French grind until the B1 Bis and C1 is honestly one of the worst. B tier at best C tier realistically.

    • @imalpha6026
      @imalpha6026 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@topace1038 bro you are acting like reaching br 2.3 takes more than a couple of battles to reach , chill.

    • @topace1038
      @topace1038 4 месяца назад

      @@imalpha6026 Still France and the UK being above the US is just objectively a bad take. Especially the UK. UK tanks suck badly. Say what you will about France at least it gets better. British tanks with only solid shot are painful to play. Sweden/USA/France/Italy/Britain/Japan/China is the best order.

    • @jumpvelocity3953
      @jumpvelocity3953 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, definitely not accurate. I think most military buffs would know more about their own country than the average military buff does.

  • @iWhiteout
    @iWhiteout 9 месяцев назад +10

    It should probably be stated though that, assuming this video is meant to target someone who’s basically new to the game, countries with larger tech trees such as the US, the grind is certainly much larger/longer than other countries but this can also be a somewhat of a good thing depending on how you wanna look at it. If you’re newer to the game and wanna grind out the air tree without using a premium vehicle, I’d assume they would end up spading (getting all mods) for each new plane they unlock and as you climb BR’s and get new planes you’ll find opportunities to utilize newer weapon mods and systems to not only get comfy with but also learn more aspects of gameplay for say air RB which will prove to be useful experience later on when they are ready to move to a different tech tree to begin grinding

  • @daidaifunk
    @daidaifunk 9 месяцев назад +87

    USA : 0:43
    Germany : 3:35
    USSR : 5:08
    UK : 6:46
    Japan : 8:06
    China : 9:30
    Italy : 10:49
    France : 12:03
    Sweden : 13:33
    Israel : 14:48

    • @sargaa8471
      @sargaa8471 7 месяцев назад +3

      if only every tierlist video had a dude like you

    • @daidaifunk
      @daidaifunk 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@sargaa8471😜🤫🤑🤑🤑

    • @__Average-Guy__
      @__Average-Guy__ 7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks dude!

    • @daidaifunk
      @daidaifunk 7 месяцев назад

      @@__Average-Guy__ 🤑🤑🤑🤧😕🥱🤪🤮

  • @FishFlys
    @FishFlys 9 месяцев назад +63

    I think the value of french legendary vehicles is slightly higher because they are a bit rarer to see around, so i would have personally considered france c or d but i understand 😢

    • @ClownAsleep
      @ClownAsleep 9 месяцев назад +8

      On ground there are all variants of the amx 13, the amx 30, the leclerc, the amx 10rc, the b1, the h39, arl44...
      On air the ms410, mystères, mirages, vautour, étendards...
      Helic: tiger, alouette and gazelles
      That's more than 9

    • @raskzak3313
      @raskzak3313 9 месяцев назад +13

      France is just so underrated to me, low tier France is great, you just have so much survivability, and bad guns can still perform well at those br
      plus, there's tank like the bi1 bis and the somua that are just the hell of a tank at their respective br
      France is not a bad nation, it's just that most people don't know how to play it

    • @Snaox
      @Snaox 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@raskzak3313 France is the hardest nation to master, but when you know how to play it, I saw people doing magic with it

    • @raskzak3313
      @raskzak3313 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@Snaox flanking tigers with the EBR was gold
      starting at 5.3 you start to either get great speed or great fire power, starting at 7.3, you get basically both + high reload speed
      killing 5 tanks one by one while their distracted or turns their turrets feels great

    • @botiignacz2916
      @botiignacz2916 9 месяцев назад +1

      As a France main, i gotta agree. @@Snaox

  • @theelmogame
    @theelmogame 9 месяцев назад +67

    Sherman firefly is a British vehicle which had to be modified to fit the big gun. I would call it a British legendary vehicle, but sadly the chasse American.

    • @TheJimyyy
      @TheJimyyy 8 месяцев назад +1

      What make the fire fly the fire fly is the brithish gun they slap on it , so is mosly brithish yes

    • @dixievfd55
      @dixievfd55 7 месяцев назад

      And there is a uniquely French Sherman, too.

  • @josjas7025
    @josjas7025 9 месяцев назад +18

    For me all Swedish vehicles are legendary!

    • @cherrymolotov
      @cherrymolotov 9 месяцев назад +3

      sweden tree has some of the most insane tanks in the game, starting from their reserve tanks with apds, the L-62, delat torn, among others

  • @ProMakesVideos
    @ProMakesVideos 9 месяцев назад +5

    5:11 SU is the biggest tech tree in war thunder. with that, also having the most vehicles.

  • @theonlypotato7064
    @theonlypotato7064 9 месяцев назад +20

    Do a most fun countries tier list. Because the US tech tree has 6 shermans in a row with minor upgrades fixing obvious weakspots to replace them with a different one until the tank can get center of massed. And yes the Abrams is good but getting to top tier is more boring than golf. I think that is more important that how OP countries are.

  • @skiddyocean9318
    @skiddyocean9318 9 месяцев назад +4

    Israel may seem like a skip tier but its really good for people that want to play a combination of US UK and France with better weapons but don't want to go through all 3 countries just to get to higher tiers.

  • @EramisMaus
    @EramisMaus 8 месяцев назад +10

    As a Swedish player im glad we had the best heat maps. BUT sad we only ranked high b tier bc of less legendary vehicles.

    • @janvanderbusse2629
      @janvanderbusse2629 8 месяцев назад +2

      Is Sweden worth grinding, Ground and Air?

    • @stpplayz2322
      @stpplayz2322 7 месяцев назад

      Ya it's pretty fun@@janvanderbusse2629

    • @EramisMaus
      @EramisMaus 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@janvanderbusse2629 In my opinion yes, at first it may be hard for low tier tanks but once you make it to the death wedges you'll be good. For aviation high tier may be a little more difficult but once you get either the viggen or draken you'll be good.

  • @eQui253
    @eQui253 6 месяцев назад +4

    I want to add that low tier germany does have some very strong tanks. The win rate is just not as good as the others because many new players dream of their infamous Tiger .. They start with germany and get stomped because they don't know how to play(we all know and love our most aware german mains). They get their Tiger eventually and get stomped again. (Or they google what they are doing wrong and switch to the panther)

  • @hunterlynch881
    @hunterlynch881 9 месяцев назад +44

    I was surprised by the heat map of the low tier Italians, i main Italy and I had zero issues in the low tiers wonder what caused it to be so red

    • @ironcell26
      @ironcell26 9 месяцев назад +3

      yeah me too, i for a long time wacked everything with all the low tier italian vehicles, especially the tanks by angling them at range they can tank and bounce so many rounds and every penetration usually results in a kill with their APHE

    • @TheOnlyMusty
      @TheOnlyMusty 9 месяцев назад +2

      You are just good at the game. The average player is not.
      But it may not just be italy's fault.
      Only A handfull of italian vehicles are in a match since there are not a lot of italian players and italy is usually paired another country (Usually germany).

    • @MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL
      @MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ironcell26Italian 2.3 m42 laughing in 300 kg exsplosive mass

  • @Math_video
    @Math_video 5 месяцев назад +1

    For France, the red point in tank are completely normal at at the higher tier (9.3-10.3) cause there is basically no French tank

  • @JippleGippleRippleFippleBoiled
    @JippleGippleRippleFippleBoiled 7 месяцев назад +7

    These are some VERY generous estimates for how long it will take to get to top tier. As a Japanese main, I have been playing for almost a year now and am almost at rank 5 ground and early rank 4 air. I normally play 1-2 hours a day, I'm not that good at the game, and I also don't have premium, but still.
    (Japan has no vehicles with scouting ability between 4.0 - 6.0 among other things which makes some parts of the tech tree a pain to play)

    • @skribbles1289
      @skribbles1289 4 месяца назад +1

      if you manage to spend your afternoons on the game + premium youll go way faster but yea none is completing it in the time he says though

    • @ScottishRebel
      @ScottishRebel 3 месяца назад

      just to follow up japanese main here and i have been playing since 2017 and im only now hitting 9.7

  • @Upsidedowndog27
    @Upsidedowndog27 6 месяцев назад +3

    Bro thinks everyone is a war thunder god… 3 weeks to hit Germany top tier??? Tf am I doing? Getting 10 kills a game?

  • @Reee11
    @Reee11 6 месяцев назад +2

    Fr even irl that region high tier tank can't do anything against rpg 🗿

  • @zauce1627
    @zauce1627 9 месяцев назад +8

    Started playing warthunder about 5 months ago and i'm an ussr player but the no gun depression caused me so much pain in the game💀💀

    • @ar0568
      @ar0568 9 месяцев назад

      When I started WT i played British so I didnt have any depression issues at all but the lack of explosive filler made me wanna kms I had 10 assists but only one kill in a game once

    • @zauce1627
      @zauce1627 9 месяцев назад

      ahh yep low tier british is painful :( @@ar0568

    • @e-5069
      @e-5069 9 месяцев назад

      The russian tank are just top happy to have any depression.

    • @zauce1627
      @zauce1627 9 месяцев назад

      for real dude@@e-5069

  • @henrypodd3461
    @henrypodd3461 9 месяцев назад +7

    Hope you keep making longform content this was a great video

  • @dixievfd55
    @dixievfd55 7 месяцев назад +3

    You forgot that you have to already have reached tier V in another nation to start Israel. Post war France is well known for two things, their fighters and their air defense systems. For a while France was exporting aircraft as hard as the Soviet Union and the United States. Their Mirages influenced the designs of the Kfir and the Viggen.

  • @CCP-Lies
    @CCP-Lies 6 месяцев назад +3

    I really like China tech tree. It's like if you want to play America but you also wanted some Soviet vehicles. Good tech tree

  • @hawk119
    @hawk119 5 месяцев назад +1

    "BRO WAS SENT HOME" LMAO

  • @iidoughnutholes3087
    @iidoughnutholes3087 9 месяцев назад +2

    “Takes around 2 1/2 weeks to get to top tier” I’ve played this game for four years and I’m not even rank 5 in Germany’s air tree yet

  • @CheeseVRC
    @CheeseVRC 5 месяцев назад +2

    There is no way you can get away with telling noobs it will take them only a month to get to top tier. no way.

  • @lucjanositz9625
    @lucjanositz9625 9 месяцев назад +1

    Make a video with beginner tipps, common mistakes, your favoutite vehicles and which are the best in the game. Are there maybe OP-ones? I think this would be great

  • @pm_b3017
    @pm_b3017 9 месяцев назад +6

    USSR should be S tier because of 10.0 Premium line up

  • @8vantor8
    @8vantor8 7 месяцев назад +1

    "it will take at least a month to reach top tier in the US tech tree"
    me with 750 hours in the game: that's where your wrong jimbo

  • @skylordmax7108
    @skylordmax7108 9 месяцев назад +24

    Keep in mind when it comes to win rate not to take it at face value. A popular high BR premium can heavily skew the win rate, same with popular nations to play at lower BRs since new players will flock to that specific country.

  • @joshuasands9440
    @joshuasands9440 7 месяцев назад

    I think Isreal kinda gets the short end of the stick just considering that until 1948 they werent even a modern country, a whole 3 years after the end of the war in the European Theatre. So it would make sense they dont have a lot of early stuff to choose from because at that time it would just be other countries that they were using if they weren't captured or persecuted and if they were even able to join other militaries.

  • @callumlynch9575
    @callumlynch9575 9 месяцев назад +2

    A MONTH 💀💀💀 TO GET TO US TOP TIER💀💀💀

  • @marte9346
    @marte9346 5 месяцев назад

    We could say that those high-ish winrates from those smaller nations don't really portray the reality most people will have whilst playing them.
    Since smaller nations usually get a lower percentage of players per match (like 2-3 as far as I remember) chances are that those wins are caused by a smaller group of above average players "carrying" the rest of the team.
    Since the ammount of players in which the win depends is lower, a subpar or even average player expecting to win just by being in a favorable area of the heatmap might end up halving their nation's performance in a match. This would probably bring their win rates to around a similar percentage as the ones from other nations.

  • @skartimusprime4779
    @skartimusprime4779 5 месяцев назад

    Chinas lack of native vehicles is actually pretty handy because you can try out a lot of really good tanks from other lines to see if you like the play style. Theres a few nations like this, Italy for example, but China was crazy varied. I have recommended it as a nation for a friend starting out because that big / fun part of the game between BR 3.7 and say 6.3 has some 'greatest hits' tanks of other nations so they might figure out which to grind next.
    Personally I just grind them all. I don't find the game much fun after about 7.3 so i have probably all of the nations up to 6.7 as a minimum except Israel which I skipped because it starts basically where the game starts to get less fun.

  • @1K_No_Content
    @1K_No_Content 9 месяцев назад

    That thunderbolt has been eating dem big macs

  • @blakelam4251
    @blakelam4251 9 месяцев назад +2

    love your video thanks so much

  • @davidefarinella6396
    @davidefarinella6396 9 месяцев назад

    great video,for another long one you could do a tierlist of premium tanks of all nation divided in ground air and maybe naval

  • @HenryMooreCreative
    @HenryMooreCreative 3 месяца назад

    I went with a germany main. Lower tier jets are super painfull but it gets way better after that.

  • @X3X_cro
    @X3X_cro 2 месяца назад +1

    As an German i am very disappointed,the cyber Pretzel will hurt you today

  • @LunarFlame_VR
    @LunarFlame_VR 7 месяцев назад +2

    Never let bro cook

  • @ezj2820
    @ezj2820 9 месяцев назад +2

    We need a map tier list

  • @jakedavenport2588
    @jakedavenport2588 9 месяцев назад +1

    The thing your not taking into account is how good the vehicles are and the verity of the vehicles

  • @codeycox247
    @codeycox247 6 месяцев назад

    I’d really love to know how you came up with the “time to get to top tier”. I played with Japan for 4 months before I got to the f16. I’d probably still be grinding if i hadn’t bought a premium plane and a premium account to push from the kikka on.

  • @TheSaneDane.
    @TheSaneDane. 9 месяцев назад +5

    Greenlandic you better continue making long form videos 🔫

  • @School_Days_Kotonoha_Katsura
    @School_Days_Kotonoha_Katsura 6 месяцев назад +1

    For me it is quite the opposite. My winrate in 3.3 or lower in Japan is very high, but past it I struggle very much.

  • @Online28_JStr78
    @Online28_JStr78 3 месяца назад

    Everyone just thinks about the legendary vehicles, pen and armor of those vehicles. Thank goodness for the ‘general’ rankings

  • @user-ml4tg7sw8d
    @user-ml4tg7sw8d 5 месяцев назад +1

    Aint no way he just said that it would take an AVERAGE player a month to get to top tier while playing 3-4 hours a day without soending money 💀

  • @AdaaDK
    @AdaaDK 9 месяцев назад +3

    I dont agree with about 50% of the heat maps, but i gues this is overall statistic and hard to compare to own experiences. Sweden AIR as an example i find very hard to belive has the overall W/R that your heatmap suggests.

  • @FaistoilTheFox
    @FaistoilTheFox 9 месяцев назад +1

    Any French main at 5.0-5.7 absolutely demolishes anyone else

  • @boggisthecat
    @boggisthecat 3 месяца назад

    The heat maps don’t necessarily relate to how good the vehicles are. The larger ‘nations’ get more casual players who will not usually be as good at the game. That means that ‘minor nations’ have more bored experienced players using those vehicles, and so you get a disparity based on skill levels of the players rather than capabilities of the vehicles.

  • @user-wv2rz1xj8x
    @user-wv2rz1xj8x 2 месяца назад +1

    I am shocked you placed China so low. Their ground lineups are very unique, being able to take Soviet and American vehicles. The only actual major downside to China is the lack of naval. It doesn't really matter how much rp is needed to grind out China, because when you are doing it, you are effectively grinding two nations at once; being America and Russia. The U.K should not be a tier. As a former Britain main, the only good thing about the U.K is that it gets access to UFO spitfires. Overall pretty interesting video, but I think you really dropped the ball on China.

  • @coolerisbetter44
    @coolerisbetter44 3 месяца назад

    He forgot to add that you need to purchase 6 planes in each rank so it is a lot more research points than going frok p-26 to f16

  • @betelgeuse_99
    @betelgeuse_99 4 месяца назад

    Man I been playing War Thunder since 2013 and haven't reached top tier in any nation yet. I always get to around 9.0-10.0 and get bored and move on to another tree. Almost all my trees are half finished at least lol

  • @StuddedChad4118
    @StuddedChad4118 9 месяцев назад

    Bro this long term video was great! Keep it up!

  • @nyrex3601
    @nyrex3601 9 месяцев назад

    I loved this video i really recommend you do do more of these !

  • @jonathans.955
    @jonathans.955 9 месяцев назад

    I think with the new update Italy is going to be mad fun

  • @akifaiman7388
    @akifaiman7388 6 месяцев назад

    Also israel tech tree will require rank 4 of ground or air of country stated in the requirement which makes it more of a hassle

  • @seanobrien3819
    @seanobrien3819 9 месяцев назад +2

    Haha a month to get to top tier is the biggest joke he said

  • @daglas95y
    @daglas95y 9 месяцев назад +1

    When you make an huge video, calculating the RP for top tier and Gaijn release un update for the research of the techtree then change everything 😢

  • @oelholm
    @oelholm 9 месяцев назад +1

    damn, nice bro. been a while since the last long format video lol

  • @staszekr03
    @staszekr03 6 месяцев назад

    One thing that keeps me away from the USA tech tree is that all the US that I would want to try out I've played in different tech trees so the very few that aren't in other tech trees are just not worth the grind. Similarly with China,literally just slightly modified vehicles from the US and ussr tech trees, no reason to grind that either.

  • @anrgycat
    @anrgycat 9 месяцев назад +1

    do you have any tips for fast grinding I've been grinding Germany ground for the last 7 months lol

  • @micahfrempong1600
    @micahfrempong1600 9 месяцев назад

    "3 and a half weeks to get to top tier in Britain" me who has been playing for 4 years and only just reached rank V

  • @TeurastajaNexus
    @TeurastajaNexus 7 месяцев назад

    Just play what feels interesting and fun. All vehicles have their pros and cos. Learning to play the vehicles that you like gives results and makes a fun experience.

  • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodid5015
    @yourfriendlyneighborhoodid5015 8 месяцев назад

    Can confirm Japan Ground Battles 1-3.0 BR made me actually want to end it all

  • @major_kukri2430
    @major_kukri2430 9 месяцев назад

    Make a tier list that rates fighters of the different nations

  • @angrycapsicum6027
    @angrycapsicum6027 Месяц назад

    soviet heatmaps seems funny, i dont really understand how it works, but i remember having more fun playing soviets than germany by far, usa, not sure yet haven't played them much

  • @adimaiuniversal4361
    @adimaiuniversal4361 8 месяцев назад

    12:34 althought yes early-game like 1.0 french tanks are just stupidly weak the armor gets really good at around 2.0 in fact it actually takes a german gun (which are often the most powerful) to kill a french tank at virtually every ww2 era BR which is why i dont really understand the big red spot

  • @MonosMrTon
    @MonosMrTon 9 месяцев назад

    Me who grinded the sweden tech tree for 8 months and still don't have the J35: Something is not right here...

  • @morianuxi
    @morianuxi 9 месяцев назад +1

    about britain 5.3: PAIN

  • @Lili_Chen2005
    @Lili_Chen2005 9 месяцев назад

    I've been playing since I started highschool and just unlocked my first jet aircraft. Telling me that it should take, maybe a month, to get to the high tiers just makes me sad, haha. Oh man, great video, though. It's super useful!

  • @xasozine
    @xasozine 8 месяцев назад +1

    I needed this thank you

  • @Lennxd12
    @Lennxd12 9 месяцев назад +2

    Can you do that but with sl earnings for free2play tanks with heat maps or smth

  • @Darakusillygoober
    @Darakusillygoober 4 месяца назад

    Im currently grinding Japan as a newbie already got Chi-Ha LG and researching Chi-He, I really only struggle against 100 levels on OP tanks and Shermans

  • @pilot610
    @pilot610 9 месяцев назад

    "it Will take atleast a month to get to top tier" im ať rank 5 air, rank 4 ground after a year lol

  • @ccffpt
    @ccffpt 5 месяцев назад

    The problem with french tanks it's they didn't evolve during the 2nd part of the ww2, so in war thunder they can't do anything against new 1942-1945 tanks, overall

  • @Murmur_65
    @Murmur_65 9 месяцев назад

    Mans looking out on air

  • @xenuko
    @xenuko 9 месяцев назад +2

    4 weeks to top tier??? I need like 1 year xd

  • @nogen1796
    @nogen1796 5 месяцев назад

    Funn fact if you go on the war thunder wiki it tels you how meni tanks there is in a tree

  • @pepe-dt8of
    @pepe-dt8of 3 месяца назад

    i wish i selected one main back in the day... now im lvl 4-6 in 4 countries

  • @wyvern1429
    @wyvern1429 6 месяцев назад +2

    Je pense que ça dépend beaucoup du style de jeux du joueur, un gars qui joue l'énergie et la vitesse aura des résultats différents d'un autre qui ne fait que des combat tournoyant.
    Pour les terrestre entre un sniper et une personne qui fonce dans le tas pour capturer les points il y a des différences

  • @LiamWilsonOfficials
    @LiamWilsonOfficials 9 месяцев назад +1

    Soviet Tech might seem bad because most of the players are p2w but its really op

  • @SakettiRaketti
    @SakettiRaketti 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks! Im a US main but i have only unlocked 5 planes. So i now i will be a Japan main

  • @cloroxbleach3367
    @cloroxbleach3367 Месяц назад +1

    This guy isn't wrong about trying out a nation for legendary vehicles I did the Italian's first for their battleships and then the Germans for ground just because I want to play as a tiger tank

  • @user-qz2cb8mg9e
    @user-qz2cb8mg9e 7 месяцев назад

    next tierlis ill recomend you to make one of the best legendary vehicles