Its extra funny since the ZT3a2 is literally better than the M901 at a lower BR xD More ATGMs, Better ATGMs same pod height (meaning same map positions) and better speed to get into those positions faster... I just can't bare watching people use it like an IT-1 and blame the vehicle.
One thing I feel the M901 suffers is that its got like no horse power, I play it and struggled with small hills and rough terrain, and I have to disagree with what he said 3:54, personally I think it does better in Urban combat, but its really deadly if you get into a god position, just my thoughts :)
Dude, the slightest hill you stop on, you won't be able to go fowards. My friend spaded his M901, yet he still suffers from hills that I have to push him up from behind
to be honest, i think the IT1 is the best missile carrier, it has a stabilized big (i think around 180mm) missile, you can fire on the move and your missile will barely explode, you only have to peak your missile over a rock.. and it's armor is VERY good
The 21st century introduced the brand new “Modern warfare” update which includes the new ATGM weapon which can be equipped on aircraft and ground vehicles Also, sloped armour has been nerfed to make room for brand new exclusive sabot rounds which are very effective
If you guys modeled the Mephisto correctly, it would have a 23 hp/t weight ratio, can achieve 110 (on roads), and can resist up to 14.5mm in close range and autocanons at further ranges. Would easily be best ATGM carrier if modeled correctly.
4:51 you can see that (presumably the front drive) wheel is spinning (way) faster than the track is moving the tank forward. This should be synchronized.
I feel like if you are going to mention the adats’ secondary weapon then, I think the strf9040 BILL should be on the list because of the top attack missiles, and 40mm auto cannon.
@@sargesacker2599 i wouldn't be surprised tho. people keep crying that sp cost is too much when its not spaa and it clearly kills tanks. those MIMs cut through the best ERA like water
Its called Air Defense *Anti-Tank* System for a reason. It's a multirole vehicle exactly like the IM-Shorad, not only can it bring down the enemy aircraft/helicopters but it can help too as a cavalery vehicle for the allied infantry.
My RakJPz HOT is a favorite of mine. It is fast, can fire behind the cover, and has a huge rack of ATGMs. The Wiesel is smaller, more nimble, and has way better ATGMs, and thermals. The RakJPz had 1st gen thermals BTW. The only reason why I don't play it more often is the incredible poop-show high-tier battles are at the moment but this will eventually get worked out. I am surprised that the Soviet IT-1 wasn't on the list. It's the most durable of them all and has a hide-behind cover (all be it bad depression). Not a fast or slow mover but noisy. The only things I don't like about it is its relatively low ammo count and slow AF ATGMs. Not that the JPz's is all that great. That's my two cents.
Can you make a comparison between a stock vehicle with level 1 crew vs the same vehicle but spaded with max crew? One for a tank and one for a plane just to show how impactful upgrading can be.
I remember seeing a video that compares normal vs aced crew for tanks and it was so much better. I didn't see a vid about plane but it makes so much difference
nice how they didnt even mention the IT-1 with its unique feature of firing on the move which no other ATGM vehicle can. Its because it was such a good tank, not because this feature was "accidently" overseen when other vehicles of this class lost the feature )))))
Hey gaijin,maybe you should consider putting a minimum range for the warhead to explode,its kind of awkward to be shot on blank point,while in reality missiles need to travel a distance in order to activate their warhead.
Is the M901 in-game as unreliable as the real thing was? Was attached to an M901 crew on exercise back in the early nineties and that thing was dire....
Its about as reliable as an ITV gets lmfao. Ingame though its what you expect. Basically a cheaper and slightly worse bradley that can fire from defilade.
How are they gonna balance that. Its already at 6.7. Most people cry about HEAT at that BR, let alone ATGMs. Its a wierd vehicle but its unique in that way, and I think most people realize that its about as low of a BR that an ATGM carrier can go.
@@Pikachu_25 actually it has some original vehicles. Sure it's mostly copy paste, but some tanks and ac are OG. I think a Yugoslavia sub tree in the soviet tech tree may be nice
@@juanel2742 I'd say so too and there are a lot of field modifications of the 90s on various vehicles. Also a yugo tree would have some low tier vehicles, unlike Israel
what i don't get from this game (player since 2014) is how vehicles like the Ratel ZT32A can't shoot while on movement (at least on 5-10km/h) while being literally a truck with 6 tires and STABILIZER on the turret, laser rangefinder and IR+NVD view but i have to stop literally to 0km/h before shooting the missile.
And in last place.... The Zachlam Tager! Why is this missile carrier in 6.7 BR? LITERALLY NO ONE KNOWS! It just showed up like that at Gaijin's office one day, they shrugged, said "Sure, whatever, no one's going to play Israel anyway lmao" and added it as-is.
@@LORDFERROK100 cause its missile is classified as a cannon barrel so you can't kill it from shooting the missile like you can with literally any other exposed missile vehicles lol
Churchill lll needs ad on track armour , the kv1 Zis 5 has the extra bit so on the front hull which makes it 75mm so why can’t the Churchill lll which historically had extra angled tracks put on the hull & turret ffs because no matter what you do to angle the panzer h will make it through the turret .
Ok just wondering what happend to the shorts division of the war thunder channel, I mean the content they post doesn't seem like something that an official game channel would post, but I'm not complaining.
Q: What can napalm really do? I’ve tested myself and even seen RUclipsrs use it, useless against armor. But I suppose light and open-top targets only? And a suggestion, since you added napalm.. why not add incendiary bombs in WWII heavy bombers such as the Lancaster or the B-17?
A: Nothing whatsoever. It is a nearly pointless addition, added assumably because they can make trailers look cool. The only thing it can do in-game is kill open-topped vehicles very slowly, and I'd like to see anyone name more than 2 vehicles like that above BR 8.7
This is really cool to know, can't wait to finish unlocking them all. However what I'd like to know and probably the rest of the primary player base that plays mostly ww2 vehicles is...when will my Tiger 2 and Jumbo Sherman stop getting demolished by these vehicles 20-30-40+ Years more advanced then them in every game we play? Unrelated question but my IS2, ya know the Soviet Heavy tank designed in 1943 with zero protection against atgms, yeah it's having a hard time dealing with those Vietnam and Desert Strom era helicopters and their long range yeet bois. Any advice...
@@blomgaming6480 ...what? 6.3 uptiered means that it will face 7.3 at MAX, not 8.3's down tiered to 7.3. That would be a 6.3 fighting an 8.3. I think you might be confused on how the MM works
i prefer gunned tank destroyers like Nashorn, ISU-122 and M10 compared to missile armed tank destroyers. I like Self Propelled Artillery too like ISU152 and STUG.
God i would love if they added the jaguar tank destroyers for germany with their tow missles. Its only an upgraded version of the rakjak series that saw far more units produced then the first two we see in game
Shows IT-1 in many shots, but doesn't feature it in the list... All while the fact that it's (as far as I know) the heaviest armoured ATGM carrier in-game should definitely have landed it a spot in there.
It can take a ton of hits, a proper 360 traverse turret, nearly unkillable hull-down, and can shoot on the move. It can even brawl tanks in cities. The missile itself is weaker than the competition but it is honestly all it needs at the BR it fights in.
i do love a good missile runner,, but im supriced the IT-1 wasnt even mentioned? it is a pretty good missile runner, low profile, and well, justgenerally pretty good
@@DragonPerjuroBMP- IFV: Infantry Fighting Vehicle ADATS- SPAAG: Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun Neither of them are technically “missile tank destroyers” but yet the ADATS was featured.
Lately I play this game less due to the bad matchup, it is unfair and unplayable, we were 8 friends when we started playing it and only me is left and the reason is the bad matchup in all game modes. Fix it Gaijin, it's the main cause of game abandonment.
not to mention any name but i think we all know who is in the last place in this list so let's just take a moment to pay respect to those who grind japan
why do i get killed if my missiles explode in the launcher ? they are wayyyy above the tank and there is nothing to produce shrapnell downwards and no open hatches
i like the fact how they didn't even mention the British swingfire and striker or the ZT3A2 acknowledging how uncompetitive they are
za35 is a spaa
@@eironn__ oh yeah sorry i ment the ZT3A2
Its extra funny since the ZT3a2 is literally better than the M901 at a lower BR xD
More ATGMs, Better ATGMs same pod height (meaning same map positions) and better speed to get into those positions faster... I just can't bare watching people use it like an IT-1 and blame the vehicle.
they didnt mention the Type 60 ATM either (probably because its awful)
And yet they are doing nothing to make it more competetive. Ladies and gentlement I present Gaijin
The bane of my existence. I HATE THAT SOME OF MY WW2 ERA TANKS HAVE TO FACE THESE WTF SNAIL
game balancing
Skill issue
@@person0-016 the 'balance' is biggest joke in the game besides it being a 'fun' game
@@garryjacky577 I didn't say it was good, did I?
@@person0-016 I was just agreeing with you
“Oh boy I can’t wait to play my tiger II!”
*BMP has entered the chat*
What is bpm
@@eironn__ bmp-1
@@edwardzhao2938 My bad its been awhile since I have played.
@@eironn__ the BMP-1 is a rank 5 soviet light tank at BR 7.3, it comes with 4 ATGM's
4:45 gotta love how the turret does not come off the way it's facing
Lmao yeah🤣🤣🤣🤣
I never noticed that lol
One thing I feel the M901 suffers is that its got like no horse power, I play it and struggled with small hills and rough terrain, and I have to disagree with what he said 3:54, personally I think it does better in Urban combat, but its really deadly if you get into a god position, just my thoughts :)
But its wall E
I usually have my friend tow me to a good spot. French tanks never have problems with hills.
@@josiahR125 We just don’t talk about those removed reserve French tanks
Why does the turret rotate backwards?
Dude, the slightest hill you stop on, you won't be able to go fowards. My friend spaded his M901, yet he still suffers from hills that I have to push him up from behind
to be honest, i think the IT1 is the best missile carrier, it has a stabilized big (i think around 180mm) missile, you can fire on the move and your missile will barely explode, you only have to peak your missile over a rock.. and it's armor is VERY good
Bmp2m
@@ItzWarThunder_YT though that's an IFV not atgm carrier lol
@@itsmiep4583 if you main the atgm and not use the cannon then it's an ATGM carrier🤣🤣🤣
It has atgms
I was gonna say that, I love the IT-1
The 21st century introduced the brand new “Modern warfare” update which includes the new ATGM weapon which can be equipped on aircraft and ground vehicles
Also, sloped armour has been nerfed to make room for brand new exclusive sabot rounds which are very effective
Gaijin out here calling a SAM carrier an "SPAAG" rather than "SPAAML" just trying to test my OCD... I still haven't forgiven you for "AMX-56" -.-
If you guys modeled the Mephisto correctly, it would have a 23 hp/t weight ratio, can achieve 110 (on roads), and can resist up to 14.5mm in close range and autocanons at further ranges. Would easily be best ATGM carrier if modeled correctly.
Hell no, wiesel would be still on Top
@@homeboy_jesus6467 sure, but only for its size. The Mephisto is a hard target to hit if you're using its launcher platform to your advantage
My favourite ATGM carrier is the one that’s isn’t place at a be of fighting against WW2 tanks and then revenge bombing when you kill them :)
Wiesel is very fun and no wwii tanks, not even maus
4:51 you can see that (presumably the front drive) wheel is spinning (way) faster than the track is moving the tank forward. This should be synchronized.
I feel like if you are going to mention the adats’ secondary weapon then, I think the strf9040 BILL should be on the list because of the top attack missiles, and 40mm auto cannon.
Yeah they advertise tank destroyers but put in a SPAA, so your IFV shouldn’t be excluded by that logic.
@@sargesacker2599 in the game its litteraly designated as a TD. it just stays in the spaa line but its a TD.
@@goliath3413
So it’s gaijins bonkers classification system at play again I see, thanks for the clarification.
@@sargesacker2599 i wouldn't be surprised tho. people keep crying that sp cost is too much when its not spaa and it clearly kills tanks. those MIMs cut through the best ERA like water
Its called Air Defense *Anti-Tank* System for a reason. It's a multirole vehicle exactly like the IM-Shorad, not only can it bring down the enemy aircraft/helicopters but it can help too as a cavalery vehicle for the allied infantry.
Ah yes, M901 at same BR as M113 ATGM carrier with exposed gunner, two ATGM's ready, and really good hull down capability.
I wouldn't call "stop your vehicle, wait for your launcher to unfold, and then turn 180 degrees to face forward" ready.
@@cabbagecabbage5047 Not that much of an issue when you're behind cover ngl.
My RakJPz HOT is a favorite of mine. It is fast, can fire behind the cover, and has a huge rack of ATGMs. The Wiesel is smaller, more nimble, and has way better ATGMs, and thermals. The RakJPz had 1st gen thermals BTW. The only reason why I don't play it more often is the incredible poop-show high-tier battles are at the moment but this will eventually get worked out.
I am surprised that the Soviet IT-1 wasn't on the list. It's the most durable of them all and has a hide-behind cover (all be it bad depression). Not a fast or slow mover but noisy. The only things I don't like about it is its relatively low ammo count and slow AF ATGMs. Not that the JPz's is all that great.
That's my two cents.
15 atgms is not enough for you?
@@honk5468 not when you factor in hitting helicopters and Russian bias tanks.
@@fosterparent7477 the it1 is soviet...
@@honk5468 LoL
I love the swingfire. The ability to shoot up and over your own cover makes it great, shame it wasn't even mentioned.
Ah yes, bringing out my super pershing and getting sniped by a Guided Anti Tank missile...
now thats what i call world war 2
:(
Nice touch with the thumbnail. I love the fact you gave a nod to the Walle tank meme.
Can you make a comparison between a stock vehicle with level 1 crew vs the same vehicle but spaded with max crew? One for a tank and one for a plane just to show how impactful upgrading can be.
I remember seeing a video that compares normal vs aced crew for tanks and it was so much better. I didn't see a vid about plane but it makes so much difference
nice how they didnt even mention the IT-1 with its unique feature of firing on the move which no other ATGM vehicle can. Its because it was such a good tank, not because this feature was "accidently" overseen when other vehicles of this class lost the feature )))))
Bmp-2?!
@@sanmiguel4774 ATGM vehicles, not IFVs :)
we in war thunder call the M901 the Wally tank destroyer
I like how after 2 months and like 3 hotfixes the pkvk3 still a bad done copy paste of the pvkv2, the ammo in the hull still 75mm shells
for me, its the nashorn
A lot of pain but when you get a good spot sniping is so rewarding
Hey gaijin,maybe you should consider putting a minimum range for the warhead to explode,its kind of awkward to be shot on blank point,while in reality missiles need to travel a distance in order to activate their warhead.
Yea... even Armored Warfare has it and that game is way more arcade-ish.
I agree
Think of all the poor Soviet players tho. They might lose a game
@@HIFLY01 no country bias after all
Is the M901 in-game as unreliable as the real thing was? Was attached to an M901 crew on exercise back in the early nineties and that thing was dire....
Its about as reliable as an ITV gets lmfao.
Ingame though its what you expect. Basically a cheaper and slightly worse bradley that can fire from defilade.
I love the most the It 1 its a good well armor atgm carier, its a Jack of all Trades fully downtier and a missle that you can shot on the move.
Gaijin has a habit of not even acknowledging bad vehicles because Type 60 ATGM isn't mentioned here or on almost any video on this channel.
How are they gonna balance that. Its already at 6.7. Most people cry about HEAT at that BR, let alone ATGMs.
Its a wierd vehicle but its unique in that way, and I think most people realize that its about as low of a BR that an ATGM carrier can go.
Q: Can you add Yugoslavia
A: no
What vehicles does Yugoslavia have that no other countries have? NONE!
@@Pikachu_25 if you don't have any knowledge about it just shut up
@@Pikachu_25 actually it has some original vehicles. Sure it's mostly copy paste, but some tanks and ac are OG. I think a Yugoslavia sub tree in the soviet tech tree may be nice
@@juanel2742 I'd say so too and there are a lot of field modifications of the 90s on various vehicles. Also a yugo tree would have some low tier vehicles, unlike Israel
Y'all should add f-101s 106s and stuff like that. Nothing needs to be top tier, just fun jets that are also neat.
what i don't get from this game (player since 2014) is how vehicles like the Ratel ZT32A can't shoot while on movement (at least on 5-10km/h) while being literally a truck with 6 tires and STABILIZER on the turret, laser rangefinder and IR+NVD view but i have to stop literally to 0km/h before shooting the missile.
Love the Wall-E thumbnail🤣
Dude, where's the Swingfire anti-tank guided missile-armed tank destroyers, such as the FV102 Striker as well as the FV432 APC-based FV438 Swingfire?
The IT-1 is overpowered and shouldn't be ingame, not going to elaborate
„But make no mistake, this vehicle is an very efficient killer“
Video in the background: *missile not even hits the target*
I like to think that the Wiesel is the top tier equivalent to the L3/33
Also, where's the BMPT Terminator tank support fighting vehicle?
Why does the Radar on the Khrizantema-S make me laugh everytime I see it? It looks like shaking its head saying nononono
what they dont tell you is the MIM on the ADATS is supposed to have min arming distances,
Why is Sea Fury FB 11 in the game isn't designated as Strike fighter like mosquito FB Mk6? It's in the name.. (Fighter Bomber)
The M18 is also designated as a tank Destroyer in real life but is a light tank in game.
M901? Good on all terrain? Bro the slightest hill you stop on, you can't even continue forwards
*Cries in M113A1 (TOW)*
wait a second, HOW THE HELL DID A SPAA G GET ON OUR LIST OF BEST TANK DESTROYERS? War Thunder Narrator, 2022
i love the ratel20 because i get destroyed by it in a t34 85, thanks gaijin for putting it a that br
Your fault bringing a t34 85 at 7.3 range
@@jesusdeputy931 i was playing with the t34 85 being the highest br in my line up
@@philippey4918 wait the 5.7 one? i think the ratel can only reach 6.3 games no lower than that
@@jesusdeputy931 is there a t34 85 higher than 5.7?
@@philippey4918 nope unless youre talking abot the 100mm gun ver.
And in last place....
The Zachlam Tager! Why is this missile carrier in 6.7 BR? LITERALLY NO ONE KNOWS! It just showed up like that at Gaijin's office one day, they shrugged, said "Sure, whatever, no one's going to play Israel anyway lmao" and added it as-is.
Lol the AMX with S11's is also at 6.7...
IT-1 my favourite
why?
@@LORDFERROK100 cause its missile is classified as a cannon barrel so you can't kill it from shooting the missile like you can with literally any other exposed missile vehicles lol
I adore warthunder !
Real turret traverse rotation sound effect in modern Tanks, when?
Churchill lll needs ad on track armour , the kv1 Zis 5 has the extra bit so on the front hull which makes it 75mm so why can’t the Churchill lll which historically had extra angled tracks put on the hull & turret ffs because no matter what you do to angle the panzer h will make it through the turret .
Wall-E looking one is the best
I HATE ATGMs. But i would love a dozer Blade on the Sherman
Ok just wondering what happend to the shorts division of the war thunder channel, I mean the content they post doesn't seem like something that an official game channel would post, but I'm not complaining.
Add the EBRC Jaguar pls
Q: What can napalm really do? I’ve tested myself and even seen RUclipsrs use it, useless against armor. But I suppose light and open-top targets only? And a suggestion, since you added napalm.. why not add incendiary bombs in WWII heavy bombers such as the Lancaster or the B-17?
A: Nothing whatsoever. It is a nearly pointless addition, added assumably because they can make trailers look cool. The only thing it can do in-game is kill open-topped vehicles very slowly, and I'd like to see anyone name more than 2 vehicles like that above BR 8.7
This is really cool to know, can't wait to finish unlocking them all. However what I'd like to know and probably the rest of the primary player base that plays mostly ww2 vehicles is...when will my Tiger 2 and Jumbo Sherman stop getting demolished by these vehicles 20-30-40+ Years more advanced then them in every game we play? Unrelated question but my IS2, ya know the Soviet Heavy tank designed in 1943 with zero protection against atgms, yeah it's having a hard time dealing with those Vietnam and Desert Strom era helicopters and their long range yeet bois. Any advice...
So the is2 is battle rating 5.7 and 6.3 how are you encountering helicopters, those start appearing at 8.0
@@test-vc5ro IS2 uptiered at 7.3 and heli downtiered at 7.3 is possible
@@blomgaming6480 oh I didnt know that
@@blomgaming6480 ...what? 6.3 uptiered means that it will face 7.3 at MAX, not 8.3's down tiered to 7.3. That would be a 6.3 fighting an 8.3. I think you might be confused on how the MM works
Puma needs the MELLS system.
i prefer gunned tank destroyers like Nashorn, ISU-122 and M10 compared to missile armed tank destroyers. I like Self Propelled Artillery too like ISU152 and STUG.
You mean self propelled gun ? (all the tanks you listed are SPGs) Because I'm pretty sure STUGs and ISU-152 weren't used as artillery
++++
So when do we get the anti tank variant of Type 93?
we need that thing
I dont play the game but i like tanks and those that kills them
God i would love if they added the jaguar tank destroyers for germany with their tow missles. Its only an upgraded version of the rakjak series that saw far more units produced then the first two we see in game
Shows IT-1 in many shots, but doesn't feature it in the list... All while the fact that it's (as far as I know) the heaviest armoured ATGM carrier in-game should definitely have landed it a spot in there.
It can take a ton of hits, a proper 360 traverse turret, nearly unkillable hull-down, and can shoot on the move.
It can even brawl tanks in cities. The missile itself is weaker than the competition but it is honestly all it needs at the BR it fights in.
Question: How do you enable the HUD Compass? I see people with it but i dont know how to enable it
How do I go about putting a decal on my vehicles? I can't find those I was awarded.
Can we get any clarification as to why the M551 is at 8.0?
Q: Will there be a Helicopter Triathlon?
that thumbnail lmao
wall-e
Yep lol 😂😂 but evil wall-e with missiles
I hat using them, i hate facing them. I wish ATGMs of any sort simply never did exist, at least in game
1:13 ah, so you guys admit that it's an SPAA. Time to correct it in-game from being a "tank destroyer" to the SPAA that it actually is.
ADATS is an acronym for Air Defense *Anti-Tank* System. It's both an SPAA and a TD.
Why fv101 scorpion isn't added to the british tech tree?
I wouldn’t say the khrizantema is in the same rank as the shturm. Not even close
They forgot the type 60 atm :(
Why does the wiesel not have anyone outside on the launcher? It does not work that way...
what about the strv bill it got both missles and 40mm
I have a question, where did the other narrator go?
0:19 "after world war one" um I'm pretty sure you meant WW2
Submarines in main game when Gaijin
air battle or ground battle ?
i do love a good missile runner,, but im supriced the IT-1 wasnt even mentioned? it is a pretty good missile runner, low profile, and well, justgenerally pretty good
You forgot the Russian bmp 2m
3:29 when are you going to fix m901?
After 2nd rocket u can still blows up it's rocket inside rocket launcher
it's nice, it's just a shame that the battle is already decided at the beginning, so unfortunately the game is not enjoyable, it's a shame RIP
They forgot the zachlam tager
I thought the (one I used is the American version) ADATS - penned up to 1200mm of armour with the ATGMs
even so it has no problem getting through ERA
Still gonna be using powerfull but fast tank
Khrizantema #1
WALLLLLLL-EEEE -- the video image makes it canon
Land Rover Baktar-Shikan ATGM Carrier pls :)
If the ADATS made it one here, how did the BMP not?
adats its not an IFV, as bmp are
@@DragonPerjuroBMP- IFV: Infantry Fighting Vehicle
ADATS- SPAAG: Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun
Neither of them are technically “missile tank destroyers” but yet the ADATS was featured.
Where is the cessna a-37 / dragonfly??
Bring the mause back for 60 dollars
How is the weasel not on here?
Lately I play this game less due to the bad matchup, it is unfair and unplayable, we were 8 friends when we started playing it and only me is left and the reason is the bad matchup in all game modes. Fix it Gaijin, it's the main cause of game abandonment.
My IT-1 still reigns superiority
Fix the spawncamping is annoying
not to mention any name but i think we all know who is in the last place in this list so let's just take a moment to pay respect to those who grind japan
No Ratel ZT3 ? No Ratel 20 ?
why do i get killed if my missiles explode in the launcher ? they are wayyyy above the tank and there is nothing to produce shrapnell downwards and no open hatches
When i saw the thumbnail i thought it was the Summer event announcement. Just release it already, can't wait
No Acra or Mephisto..?
please return back old voice...
cool
my T-54 are crying from these
Q: if there is an IS 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7, where is 5?
The IS-5 was the prototype of the T-10.
@@RedXlV but is it in game?
@@Nunyabizy123 Not yet.
It would be extremely similar to the T-10A, but it might be added anyway.