Japanese MBTs / War Thunder
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- After the defeat at the end of WW2, Japan was deprived of any military capability. The Japanese had to get rid of all tanks, all aircraft… basically all combat vehicles that they still had. But that’s how things were… right after the war. Only five years passed, and there was a new war in the region - the war on the Korean peninsula, and it forced the US to reconsider their stance. They decided that there was no reason to continue keeping thousands of their troops in the occupied country - and, after some negotiations between two governments, Japan was allowed to establish their own Japan Self-Defence Forces - basically, a de-facto army which, legally, wasn’t considered one.
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the thing is, the day the Type 10 was out i had it, Japan was my first Country to grind on WT and i dont Regret it as i Crew a Type 10 IRL
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I remember when the Japanese ground tree was added to the game. To this day it was my favorite update. The Japanese tanks are so unique and cool, save for a couple american ones at mid tier.
Japan remains my primary nation
I remember when ground forces were added
Japan ground tree has some very fun tank with naval derp guns or the amphibious tanks.
Just recently got my type 10 after grinding out the American tree and am super happy with it
Thx from JP
Fun fact: STB-1 is supposed to have an autoloader, that’s why the turret was longer on Type 74s, because they needed room for a human loader.
Edit: after some digging i found out that it was a loader assist, more similar to previous japanese designs than that of an actual autoloader. So it had a human loader, but his job was half automated and needed less space
Based on what information is that??
@@rachelabrantegil3937 Well it was the same Situation as with the ST-A4 that had an autoloader but was too expensive so the Type-61 came out, the STB-1 supposed to have autoloader but too expensive so Type 74(E) came out
hes right. but wrong at the same time. theres alot of prototypes made for the Type 74 tank (named as STB- series) and one of those had a autoloader, but the Japanese decided to use a auto "reloader" instead.
If you want to know how that auto reloader works, check out Italian tanks of World of tanks
STB is 6 type
～～～farst type 1964～～～
STB-1 human loader
STB-2 autoloader
～～～second type 1971～～～
STB-3 human loader
STB-4 human loader
STB-5 human loader
STB-6 human loader
To clarify, the US did very little after occupying Japan in terms of regulating their military. By the time of discussion of reorganization of the Japanese military, America wished Japan to fully bring back their military to take away burdens of guarding it and gaining a potential ally in future conflicts. Japan however preferred to keep to a new pacifist mentality and make it a self defense force. A decision still in effect that the US to this day, prefers Japan to fully devote to a military. Although the JSDF is still one of the top militaries in the world despite the self defense title.
Wait, the US literally want Japan to rebuilt their former Imperial Japanese military?
@@Kalashnikov413 No, they wanted them to rebuild a conventional military. Not a imperialistic one obviously, but one like individual members of Europe or hell, even Korea technically.
This is what I keep telling dumb haters of Japan who believe that they are a puppet state of the US. It's not America that's leeching off Japan, rather it is the Japanese saving billions from spending it onto their infrastructure instead of their military since they can just have security guarantees from the US.
Japan keeps it a defence force because of people who believe article 9 of the constitution will protect them from all wars
@@kaijuslayer3334 Korea lol
I'm very sad that they did not called Type 10 prototype STD like they did with STA (type61), STB (type 74) and STC (type90)
I wonder why
The Type 90 prototype was not in fact called STC; the designation “ST (trial tank)” was dropped alongside all the other “trial” designation types for prototype and experimental vehicles in 1980, and the first Type 90 prototype was constructed only by 1981. At that point, the vehicle was designated TK-X 0001
@@cyonemitsu 😞sad, it would have been hilarious. But maybe that would have been for the better
@@radosaworman7628 From what I can tell, this was primarily a move to standardize project names across the branches, TK-X (tank, experimental), F-X (fighter, experimental), AH-X (attack helicopter, experimental), etc.
@@radosaworman7628 i dont get it
6:41 It’s not See-Forty-One (C41) system, it’s See-Four-Ai (C4I), meaning Command Control Communication Computer Intelligence system
yeah, that really bothers me that he said that.
To explain what C4I means to less nerdy people (aka not either of us), it's a computerized battlefield data management system, combining the 4 C's (Command, Control, Communication, and Computer) and an I (Intelligence) into one integrated system. It's highly advanced, and as far as I know, the Type 10 is the only tank to equip such a system.
Oh c'mon where is the mighty HO-RO. We know it is the only ''MBT'' that can bully everything from 1.0 to 11.0. :D
Btw they're nerfing all the Type-74 tanks, the Type-87 and Type-89 severely in this upcoming update....
Good luck suffering in Japan tech tree.
I dont play the game anymore, but I really love the historical videos of the tech trees in the game. But it is great to hear the narrator's voice again.
Yeah the only thing that keeps me playing this game is the tanks in the game being real compared to some fake tanks in WoT
There's a certain irony to this video coming out with the significant nerfs to the upper tier Japanese tanks in the next update.
and missing leopard equal composite armor moduls for the turret, type 90 and type 10 have nearly the same sizures for the turrets as there german counter parts and rheinmetal was a partner in design for those tanks.
I didn't know the killer Ai ninebreaker liked WT.
Wait i mean i guess you broke the ai...
I love the Japanese tech tree, all of them is full of quite fun vehicles.
Great video, love the Type 10 was added, hopefully as the game's meta pushes forward, the rated protection can meet the officially rated standards of resistance and missing NERA plate for protecting the driver in the lower frontal plate can be added, it's understandable that it isn't currently modeled as such for game balance reasons, but it is important to remember the Type 10 in fact has better nominal frontal armor than the Type 90, as it has substantially more armor by mass thanks to weight saving measures in areas such as the engine, transmission, and gun.
@Arron Incorrect, you can in fact see official documents, including a patent, showing the geometry of the lower plate NERA, as well as it having been rated for similar protection as the other NERA modules. If you're curious, please go read document "陸上自衛隊仕様書 GV-Y120001E 10式戦車". it states "車筐の正面下部に装着した状態で, "あ" に貫徹されない。", translated "When attached to the lower part of the front of the hull, and bulletproof against "あ"".
@Arron Additionally, this information I have stated has already been sent to the developers, they are aware of this issue. Please do not think that this game doesn't deliberately withhold accuracy for game balance purposes, that's patently incorrect.
@Arron he's not a weeb, he's spitting facts.
@Arron War Thunder's model is not remotely an authoritative source when they have basic errors like the fuel tank somehow situated on the floor of the tank, blocking a known escape hatch in real life.
@Arron It's telling when you're quick to jump onto ad hominem rather than actually having your own citations, while youtube comments lack the ability to link sources, you can at least write out a citation for people to go check, as I have done, but I know for a fact there's no way you can provide official documentation which conflicts with what I stated.
I love the video, there is so much information about the Japanese army post WWII. Japan also have lots of build prototypes, and i would really like to see the Japanese ground vehicles in the game. The forums have gathered so many tank designs for Japan, but they are all in consideration... Gaijin, could you perhaps take a look at the forums, and perhaps give us a update with a lot of Japanese ground vehicles; since that would make Japan a real grind worthy nation in the game. :)
4:49 He accidentally called it the Type 64.
Yeah i have heard it too :D
I always like Leopard 2a6 and Ariete c2 tank but the Type 10 is something very beautiful in my opinion
-Adds type 10
-butchers its armor
-refuses to elaborate further
But on the bright side:
• up to 616mm of pen
• 4 second autoloader
• Smaller profile than its NATO equivalents
• having armor at top tier won't do you any good at top tier, unless you exclusively go hull down
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• up to 616mm of pen (which is useless thanks to overperforming russian era *cough* bias *cough*)
• 4 second autoloader (only really good thing)
• Smaller profile than its NATO equivalents (pointsless since the whole tank can get penned everywhere)
• having armor at top tier won't do you any good at top tier, (unless your russian)
@@justapanzercrewmanwithwifi1070 Abrams have great armor at top tier so do russian tanks it's not our fault leopards have butter hulls
Epic moment when you realize the Type 10 is so good that they had to nerf it in contrast to the actual revealed specs of the vehicle saying otherwise.
Most ppl always rushing for Abrams, T-80s and Leos, but real samurais begans their joruneys on top tier from Type 74 E trough Type 90 up to Type 10.
The journey can only begin by first playing the atrocious first tier Japanese experience.
"Do you have any favorites?"
You're cute to assume I'll ever unlock them.
it's not the C41 system, it's C4I (Command Control Communication Computer Intelligence system)
Yea yea, now stop nerfing my toys, its tech tree already dead, no need to nerf
Outstanding! Love me some Japanese MBTs. ❤
Gaijin, can we _please_ get the pontoons for the Type 2 Ka-Mi as a researchable modification like the Type 3 Ka-Chi has? 🙏
As a japanese main I literally love japanese MBTs my favourites are type74s/90s and 10. They are hard to play but thats exectly what i lobe about them, because its not just blind going forward you need to think about it. Anyway i hope japan will get some new vehicles like STC or type81 SPAA🇯🇵
As a japan main, I do like the japanese MBTs. They are very fun to play and it is a nice change of pace from the standard spam of US/german/russian vehicles.
However, the nerfs man. The constant nerfs. They just keep losing out for no reason. Ive seen the historical documents for these nerfs on the forums, but the thing is, Ive also seen people posting plenty of historical documents buffing these vehicles which seems to have been either ignored or just been really slow on the uptake. Its bizzare, annoying, and disheartening when you constantly see patch notes with "japanese vehicle is getting yet another nerf" with very, very few buffs by comparison.
Also, the STB-1 needs to go back to 7.7. it shouldn't be at 8.0 after removing its good optics AND its HEAT shell, which the Type 74C gets at 8.0 anyway.
I love Japanese air but ground is pain.
i like Japanese ground much better than Chinese ground Japanese tanks can be absurdly fun to play an example the Ho-Ro but i get what you mean (ps try the ho-ro it can kill modern mbts its an absolute blast to play)
Should add the Type 99 SPH, and Type 96 MPMS so we could get a few more tanks at high tier japan, even if they are not at the tippy top, they are arill lacking. Esepcially the tank destroyer front. Also, maybe a second type 89. The one with a modified hull. Or the Komatsu B78, an experimental IFV that had a prototype.
7:10 i still cant wrap my mind around the fact that a ww2 supertank is fighting against modern day MBTs
That's actually a Cold War MBT
I have a very clear favorite when it comes to Japanese MBTs
I would love to see the Type 10 shared intel capabilities included in game between teammates. What one Type 10 sees, all Type 10 sees.
how would that work tho, like a unique spotting ability for type 10s that only relay the information to other type 10s?
@@jonsong4592 The newer challenger tanks can do that aswell, it would be emplimentable!
I do plan on researching the Japanese Ground forces in the near future. I’m aiming for the type 61
Q: is there any chance for a new high RB anti air vehicle to the Japanese tree?
Q: is who can i play the first tier Japanese heli while not having any atgm or advance rockets computer like the other tech trees for other nations?
exactly the suffering of japan main
When half track type 98 AA & M270 mlrs will be added in Japanese tech tree??
I was so happy when the type 10 was added. I really enjoy the type 10.
Thats not true!
The type 10 enjoys you!
You're gonna enjoy it even more if they plan on fixing its in-game transmission
I'm sure they would be amazing to play...once I can get through the grinding hell that is lower BR Japanese tanks with their paper armor, peashooter cannon, and lawnmower engine.
Not sure where you're at, but things look up from the Shinhoto Chi-Ha onwards, its 47mm is a great gun and it sets the pace for most Japanese tanks. Armour and mobility are pretty average, but the guns are excellent.
Most have good gun depression, high velocity guns with powerful APHE - the perfect snipers. Fight from hills or defilade, support your teammates from mid-long range. My general rule is to hang back in good cover and concealment, taking shots at the dangerous tanks that you can kill. If you get uptiered, wait for an opening and then go for a flank!
They are hell at times but you’d be lying about them having peashooter cannons.
Correction about the Type 90 , they STARTED to place them on active duty after they retired the STD last year
Well fighting the enemy with STDs would be hard, how are you gonna get close enough to shack them? And the soldiers being asian? That limites thier range aswell.
10式やっぱりイケメンだよなぁ。
The MBT's are really honestly great, I love to play Japanese vehicles most after having grinded out Germany, but a few things really stop me from enjoying Japan:
1) Lack of good AA. Kancer-50's ruin your gameplay monumentally. The Type 93 just doesn't give the Japanese that defensive capability, the Type 87 can't reliably reach. Getting past 9.7 was hell, and is still Hell playing above that due to relying on having Americans or Germans on the team for the ADATS and Rads
2) Russian BR balance is troll AF. STA and Type 74's struggle against tanks like the Object 279 and BMP-2M for next to no reason except Stalinium Armor. Can smack a BMP on the weakest points and the engine or single crew mate will eat the damage up and give them time to punish you. Object 279 bounces everything that isn't ATGM, and eats ATGM's for lunch. Ridiculous.
3) Constant nerfing, or having "similar performance" vehicles that just underperform everyone else. And with Nerfs happening yet again, they just don't perform. Even the WR stats of all Nations reflects that Japan does not compete very well.
Gotta love Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. They've probably made millions if not billions from the JSDF alone over the years. Thats not even factoring in the Imperial Army
Wait so they’re making a video about them right before nerfing the type 74s to nothing
All of them have faced Godzilla in his movies. As recent as the time the Type 10s took on Shin Godzilla!
I would love to play them. But you know. Grinding is not fun.
My favorites are the Type 10s they look cool but the reload rate is 🔥🔥🔥
gaijin why is my stb1 at 8.0 when you guys specifically removed heat shell so it can stay at 7.7
Japanise tech tree is my most favourite one it was my 1st nation that i had on top tier :D
my favorite heli is apache 64-D with fire&forget hellfire and data link tech .. which war thunder dose not have it.
After this latest update, I have to say goodbye to this game reluctantly. From now on I'm gonna play Warthunder Ultra HD on RUclips :(
Yep
ah yes the stb 1 the tank they ruined with unneeded changes
"Type 64". How hard is it to check the quality before publishing?
"C41"? It's C4I. The letter "I".
Shows how much they care about getting Japanese vehicles right from the get-go
I love japanese tanks, some might not be meta but aesthetic is rly nice
4:48 "... the type 64 ..." while talking about the type 74
Woo yes was waiting for this LESS GO
please add ejection seats when bailing out of modern aircraft
Yeah the type 74 engine is 750 HP NOT 720HP :)
why dont we get japanese turbosherman with uh1 bell iroquois helicopter engine. STB1 should get loading assistance mechanism like irl
The ST-A1 is so painful I arrived here by looking up if the rest of the tree is even worth it. I'm like a hairs breadth from giving up on the tree altogether. The only thing that keeps me going is the STB and the Type 87 :c
Is this salt on the wound gaijin why this now when you are nerfing the type 74s into the ground
I couldn't hear them coming since the game sounds are still broken.
Russia, JSDF isn't a defacto military. It's constitution is self defense and no offensive weaponry like Kaliber Cruise Missile or SCUD IRBM or etc etc
I love Japanese tanks. I have it on my PS4. I have the Type 74. Well if I can remember.
Ah the Type 74, famous for its battle against giant radioactive monster and neo-Roman wannabes with magic.
WAITED FOR THIS, FINALLY.
THANKYOU BRUCE
they are really intresting MBTs
Finally...the Type 10 god yes
Love war thunder keep up the good work
Yeah even though it has problems that wants me to commit suicide I like it
Man I love these videos.
type 90 fuji is fun with 4 sec reload can flank anyone
Good stuff, but... Will I be able to live out my Girls und Panzer fantasy with this??? Where's my Turtle team decal?
if anyone is interested in japanese tanks i upload montages for them every once and a while as it was the first and only tank tech tree i play i loved them top to bottom
Add The Type 97 te ke light tank as a rank 1/ reserve.
My favorite tech tree
perfect dune 2000 one of the first rts games i played
On ps4 console i use X to pitch my plane and now i cant zoom in & out with my L1 button. To be frank If im pressing any button I cant zoom at all I have to release whatever function Im doing to zoom
Still, I don't know how Type 90s and Type 10 achieve 4s reload
"What do you think about them"
I think you cheaped out on effectively representing the overpressure 120mm rounds the JSDF uses.
Another flop by Gaijin.
STB-1/ type 74, U bet. Not sure about the type 90 or 10?
Currently smacking my head against the keyboard with rank 8.0 atm, can barely kill anything
I recently unlocked the first of the type 74s. They’re great! But now gaijin’s gonna nerf their maneuverability before I can unlock them all... :(
When would you add the French navy et make less expensive repear cost for french tank ?
most of japanese aircraft and tank were made by mitsubishi
Imma grind JP as soon as I get a solid 8 tier in USSR
Give us the MMPM plz! Japan needs more ATGM vehicles!
i love my type 90 its a beast
GAIJIN!!! STOP. SCREWING. JAPAN!!!
Japan is dead.
@@kayra2444 No that’s Russia
I want to know who makes the music in the begining of the WT vids
background should be Hokkaido , right ?
WHEN UPDATE?????!
I second this question
Bro calm down, it will be soon.
I think you should add the F-X fighter, I don’t have war thunder btw
Gosh dang it, I thought this was the update video
Sad all Type 74 series get downgraded :')
The Type 61 is such an improvement over the ST-A1/2, but I’m still very much looking forward to trying the STB and Type 74.
As a someone who has already completed the entire Japanese ground tech tree, the Type 74s and STB are really fun. I recommend you set controls for hydroneumatic suspension so that you can use it. Unfortunately all Type 74s, STB and etc.. are all getting nerfed next update.
@@derritter3873 I justed started researching the STB and now i see there will be a nerf. What is the nerf?
@@Squisbabvs reverse speed from i know
Well i much prefer the type 89 with its atgms, good 35mm gun and thermals at 8.3 but its also getting nerfed along with all type 74s (including stb)
@@Squisbabvs All Type 74s, STB and Type 87 (SPAAG) are getting their reverse speeds halved from 14 to 7, the type 89 is getting major turret traverse nerfs, I think the RCV is also getting turret traverse nerfs, but that might be the SPAA. That’s it. I think.
pretty sad to showcase japan, while they are getting nerfed by ALOT.. almost none plays them.. good vid thoe
Some of my absolute favorites are in this line. I'd rather have speed, the fantastic optics, and ammo options of the ST-As or the Type 61 at 6.3-7 than a slow, outdated Tiger II any day. And they just get better from there.
Sad centurion noises
Fun when Gaijin?
Most of the Nippon JSDF MBT are good, but they only defend Thier country
I main japan orom the beginning of my gameplay now i own type 87 rcv and i am researching patton (can u give back my soul)
Japan sexy tank cuz of the narrow road
can we have the same but with japanese ships?, maybe once the Kongo drops in the upcoming update?
Hope we get the first kongo model too it was more powerfull
Yea good job making a video about em before nerfing them out of existence without a br change.
Can't wait for when you decide to move the Ho-Ri production up to 8.7.
Is that Toyota again.
I’d love if y’all stop nerfing and putting all the decent vehicles, up a BR by 0.3
When will we see the STC series of prototypes in game? If ever