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It was nice to hear your thoughts on some of these characters. I might do a separate video explaining these characters strengths or weaknesses like Asuka or Miguel and how they do in competitions.
100 years later Arslan responds to TMM responds to his tier list video to Arslan tier list by TMM's video of response to his response of Tier list's video
ofc he would do it, since it will get views. but to be fair to TMM, arslan did question several times what TMM said, so I did want TMM to respond. haven't seen this video yet, so i don't know if he does.
One of the reasons why Arslan is hesitent in putting Alisa in S imo is that he was once talking about her lows not being on the S-tier level. Arslan values characters with good lows very high, hence Akuma S+, and that is the reason why he has has expressly told in his stream why Asuka is not above B...because her lows suck.
@@artguy7992 Well if you look at her pokes from a damage point of view, sure. Put her lows aren't the main crux of the game. Her jab, 1,1 and df1 pressure is enough to shut down opponents. db3 is a very fast -12 low that forces crouch and gives +frames. It doesn't have a lot of range but with df1 and jab pressure you can sneak em in. Also her generic lows, d3 and d4 are much better than other generic lows and then there is db4. her db2 string though reactable, creates a mini mixup...Even knee had eaten that string from Arslan. The fact is that Alisa's low doesn't allow her to create the kind of sustained poke pressure like Kazumi can with her other lows. But...Alisa has many other things due to which she Raises upto the A-A+ category alongside Kazumi. Plus I never said Alisa has bad lows, just that her lows aren't the best. Lars, Asuka, Armor King...now these are the bad low characters.
If anything, it's really awesome to have two people outwardly state that they respect each other's stuff, even if they sometimes have different opinions. It's pretty notable considering all the hate and disrespect on the internet.
I'm sorry MainMan, but the most pointless video in the world was Jesse Cox and Crendor reacting to each other about how to eat pickles in a chicken sandwich about 9 times. If MainMan and Arslan Ash can top that, my mind will be changed.
IMO you are analyzing characters by measuring their objective qualities ( reach, frames, execution difficulty, risky or not etc) and making a balance of these factors to rate them. Whereas Arslan is also looking at the positive matchups they can have. The difference is slight (which is why he agrees with you largely) but the nuance is that some characters may have some weaknesses on the paper but these can be minimized during a specific matchup due to using a particular tactic that works well for that fight Just my opinion though, thank you for the videos :)
31:20 dude, any characters "can" beat each other. Rangchu's panda beat a lot of S tiers. The thing about tiers isn't about "maybe" or "what if something outrageous happened", it's about, ceterus parabus, all other things being equal, in a match between equal players, which characters are generally superior.
Rangchu won Evo mostly due to the fact that almost no one knew the Tekken 7 Kuma matchup at all. This is demonstrated by the fact that after that Evo, Rangchu never got any noticeable tournament placements due to everyone else labbing the character
@@Ritsu362 agreed agreed. What I'm actually saying though is... a C tier CAN beat Akuma or an S tier... it's just not very likely! Even Gigas vs Leeroy, it's not unheard of for Gigas to take 1 round instead of being a 3-0 washout.
@@Jasonred79squeek oh definitely! Stuff like that happens in tournaments all the time, even at the top. But I feel like its largely based on either one player not knowing the matchup and the other player reading the other guy extremely well. Characters like Kuma and gigas are c tier for a reason. Crap range, crap movement, and nothing too op or good. Player skill and knowledge is what really allows one to win this character tho. In that case, these C tier characters can definetly beat A tier characters
@@Ritsu362 One day... ONE DAY, maybe, we'll see a Panda, Lars or Gigas win a tourney finals 3-0. ... ... ... YEAH RIGHT AS IF LOL!!! Yeah, those low tiers can often take a round, heck they can sometimes scrape out a 3-2 victory, but the majority of the time, the top tier fighters are just gonna stomp the low tiers 3-0 or 3-1.
It would be hillarious if Arslan reacts to this video aswell and then TMM makes yet another response. Imagine the title lmao xD TMM responds to Arslans response to TMM's response.
28 : 09 that's exactly what I said on his video like why he put howrang in the same tier as lars when hes clearly stronger then him and someone said "well he got beat by lars" that doesn't change the fact that howrang has better tools/frames then lars
I'm quite pleased of how when TMM says that KOF is famous at Pakistan, and refers to the players there picking Akuma and Eliza first, rather than referring to *an actual* KOF character that's already in the game, the evil blonde, Geese... So They rather play characters with 2d elements, unknown to them, than playing an actual KOF character they're familiar with ? Sounds funny to me and I'd believe it tbh, Akuma is the most rewarding character in the game to master, and that's a fact till now.
When you talked about how technical KOF is, I wanted to start talking about how technical Jojo's Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle is. Then I realized that no-one plays that game.
Hey, new fan and player here! I decided to try tekken because of main mans content and its super fun but i need some help please. To help narrow down the issue my experience in fighting games is strictly mortal kombat (and yes i know its a baby game compared to tekken) but I do incredibly well with almost all the characters. (not meant as any sort of brag but to demonstrate i understand fundamentals that i can usually out box any opponent even if im using a new character) with that in mind im certainly no god tier player i can just hold my own against most people is all i mean, so to my surprise im having a serious issue with that in tekken. Specifically, im maining steve/bryan. with steve i can dodge all day and get people off me no problem but with bryan i cant seem to get people the hell off me. it seems like every match goes like this: they rush me down like crazy no mater who they use and i try so hard to get them to stop humping me with pokes but i either cannot get a move out to save my life or i end up spamming low pokes like a fricken wood pecker to just stop the endless harrasment. I was hoping someone could tell me how to keep people away with bryan and or why when i pick him do my opponents rush me like that? is that his weakness or something? i mean clearly its my personal weakness but does he suck up close or am i missing something? thank you
I am not a Bryan player but I do think being rushed down is one of his weaknesses. I notice I have a much easier time being offensive against him rather than defensive.
I am a Bryan and Kazumi main who started almost 6 months ago and Now I can hang with Bryan against high level players. To start off, you need to understand Bryan's keep out game with moves like 3+4, f3, db3, ff2 and a few other moves. Let me know if you wanna know a bit more and I can give you some pointers. Always happy to help a fellow Bryan player.
Every char can win tournament,it all depends on the player. That's true. But,if you saw Knee picking Akuma and Arslan picking Lars,both people who understands the game,who would you bet your money on???? And that's why tier list Exist. Know Kami(YT) said something like that.
I've played 2 eddies that were absolutely the best players I've ever played against online. I've also played a Lars that frame trapped like no other. Just from those players alone I'd rank Lars and Eddie near Paul. Sounds like these lists are just totally subjective.
Arslan: hello guys this is MainManPak here(better than the swe ver.) hope you all doin’ awesome as always. Today i’m going to do a response to a response of a response to a response of my tier list video a while ago.
Arslan basically just says what everyone else says: the game is balanced. You can win with anyone. Obviously there are way better characters and worse ones but you can win with all of them.
tekken is a game where i can see a tierlist like this and agree with it and yet not hate the game for it, like im cool with it and i never had this feeling with any other game, like yea some characters are slightly better than others but not in a game breaking way
9:49 Nina is kinda the same. With his sidestep 1 cancel (or whatever I don't play Nina) I saw that you can be + 10 to +15 something like that. It's the same thing that a taunt jet upper, theorically op but impossible in practice
TMM so naturally funny dude. Or at the very least your sense of humor and sarcastic nature clicks very well with me. Was dying when you were waiting for Arslan to say "Very good player". It's an honor though. Ngl. : )
All I wanted to see was MainMan’s reaction to Arslan saying all characters are gonna have projectiles in the future. I’d stop playing Tekken if that happened.
Tier list are the personal opinión of each player struggling about every character tier s, and fault of knowledge in low tiers characters because they don't give a fuck those characters End of the story lol In other words, tier list are like butholes.
If you want to spend years in the game the better character is obliviously Devil Jin for the only reason that he seem to always be top tier no matter the game, he probably will still be top tier in the future Tekken games that'll come out
People complaining about league having 150 characters with 4 skills and a passive. Tekken here having around 50 characters but with near to limitless combos equals to 500 or possibly a lot more league characters no wonder even pros cant make out every characters potential.
I mean league of legends has passives that are overbloated, stacking effects, percentage damage; true damage; interactions with items, actives, it’s simple once you invest in it but to not as dedicated players it’s hard to take it/ there is AD and AP scaling. Yasuo’s Kit literally gives more options and wiggle room for adaptation than most of the Tekken 7 roster. Everyone plays on the same plane in Tekken. League of legends not so much. Look at Aphelios, number of move/abilities doesn’t mean depth. All Tekken characters can side step, block, duck they have a lot of universal stuff and they all just hit you. Whereas league of legends has somethings that provide use outside of hurting people; applying heals, shields, etc. I would say they are on the same playing field, though I lean more toward league of legends being more complex, but not as execution intensive. That’s just my opinion though. But it’s hard to compare the two genres. An interesting conversation to be had, I used to play league a few years ago but I moved to fighting games because I find it fits my lifestyle now a lot more than my college days.
@@somethingcool9979 I can totally see where you coming from and actually I agree but league is a weird case I guess I just used a bad comparison they are actually too much different genre of games tekken requires you to have good execution of button combos while lol needs good mouse control and knowledge of general game mechanics . It's a good point to say they are at par. The part where tekken excels is you are not depending on your teams performance as oppose to lol. Since it's 1v1. Lol on the other hand has a lot more factors than character mastery like you said you could be the best Yasuo player in the world but it doesn't make you challenger in rankings. While being the best akuma in tekken you will hit prime and stay there most of your time playing. TBH I confess I kinda meme compared the games without putting thought into it.
And I put more thought into my comment of people not being able to maximize every characters potential in tekken is due to how big the player base that play the game is. Lol is played by millions so automatically you have better data on most characters and still there are sleeper OP characters with low play rate in the game.
Please just zoom-call each other. It will save all of us a lot of time. 😛😂 This method of communication is like the letter-writing of 15th century, except that we have video now.
Excellent punishment, great counter hit game, long wall carry to make sure you pile on the pressure even if damage is average. A lot of good moves that are safe or have a better risk reward ratio. Lee's only drawback is that for the same amount of work, you can get characters like Jin, Steve, Julia, Zafina, Akuma and Geese...even Eliza imo, to give you better throughput for your efforts. Same drawback with Bryan.
@@BullC6 I'm Lee main as well. In previous tier lists he had always been somewhere lower than average. Season three buffed his b4 and Deadly Edge but also nerfed his Acid Rain and d3. So I didn't think he would be rated that high.
I seriously don't see how Julia is S tier Maybe A tier. She has no good ways to pressure, has to take the risks all the time on the offensive doesn't have low-risk pokes only safe launcher is qcf+2. You win neutral vs Julia by not pressing anything including forward and sidesteps. If you try to keep her out you will die. In the close-range, that's where you fight her and yes she has 4 and ff+1,4. But her lows are pretty bad(aside from b&a). She has crazy situational 50/50 and amazing Oki, combo damage and wall carry. I rewatched EVO 2020 Matches and honestly, Mikio got a lot of wins because nobody knew the Julia vs Leroy matchup with the exception of Mikio (People would try to punish b&a miss a punish and get launched for it) And playing aggressively in neutral(It doesn't work vs Julia). And had the impression that players didn't have enough "mental RAM" for defense due to playing new char.
I haven't played T7 in months but isn't Akuma relatively easier for someone who is coming from the Street Fighter side of things. Isn't a lot of his command list similar to his movelist from street fighter, just adapted for the 3D fighting engine of Tekken? I didn't play Akuma much in T7, I was mostly playing Armor King, and Lee. I'm not good at Tekken by any means, I'm way better at Street Fighter, I just want to understand the situation. Please mind my ignorance in this subject.
@@RaeBordz27 Please elaborate on how anything I said was toxic. By parameters in which you could label my reply as "toxic", your comment as well as this reply of yours would be 10x worse. I don't get it.
@@RaeBordz27 This is what you said 4 days ago: "Someone in the chat said "why are we offended by facts" because it's facts and it's hard to have a reasonable argue with facts so people take the "hate,toxic,unreasonable argue" route. Just sad man just sad..." End quote. What happened to this mindset? You just did the same thing.
25:55 Mainman : Eu players have weak fundimentals they use built in defence moves After criticism mainman : I didnt mean that Eu 9/10 but Us 9.5/10 Also mainman : tekken 7 favors attacking unga bonga playstyle being in opponents face bla bla bla After arslans correction he says : no that was a misunderstandin ididnt mean that 😆😆😆😆
It was nice to hear your thoughts on some of these characters. I might do a separate video explaining these characters strengths or weaknesses like Asuka or Miguel and how they do in competitions.
That would be great!
Do a reaction on this please Ash-sama
Do a reaction now thanks hahahaha
And Yoshi's please
Arslan: Ok, now I've made things clear with my latest video.
TMM: *posts a response*
Arslan: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....
CK!
lmaoooooooooooooo
Just talk to each other already.
lol
And get a room
@@mr.almezeini647 And record it too of course.
I love maeve
@@azozal_iraqi5926 ah man of a culture, just picked up paladins ystrd and realised this hot cat girl exists.
Next Vid : Arslan Responds to "TMM Responds To Arslans Response On Tier List"
And then aris will respond with a Video called:" What are These stoners talking about???"
I hoped to see this comment when i saw the video.
the RUclips vortex
They should keep it going honestly
We've come this far 😂
100 years later Arslan responds to TMM responds to his tier list video to Arslan tier list by TMM's video of response to his response of Tier list's video
To be fair, Arslan said he's ready for the reactionception.
ok now Arslan has to do another response :P
Yep.....Arslan's video had the same comments
respsonception
The two of them will just be stuck in a loop forever haha
Nah, Arslan is the superior player so hes right
They're going to react to each other until the original tier list video becomes a video for ants.
We were joking on his video didn’t think you would actually do it.
He's desperate for content.
B D no ones holding u hostage to watch it, plus its the best player in the world in his favorite game, idk i would probably do the same
ofc he would do it, since it will get views. but to be fair to TMM, arslan did question several times what TMM said, so I did want TMM to respond. haven't seen this video yet, so i don't know if he does.
@@Viewer13128 What react to him reacting to you reacting to him reacting to you reacting to him reacting to you? Get a grip
Twitch chat kept pestering him to respond to Arslan's video every time.
I love how "he has the best 50/50 in the game" is a widely understood statement by fighting game players regardless of language
It's official: we entered in a loop of responses🤣
Yes bro hahah🤣🤣🤣
2:03 MainMan says this
Video: *47 minutes long*
Lol
Arslans video itself was like 40ish minutes
Lol
a response to a response to a response... literally why not just verbally talk it through at this point...
Zoom Calls experience yo
Stop asking obvious questions
Chill lol
More money duh
Because translation is a thing.
One of the reasons why Arslan is hesitent in putting Alisa in S imo is that he was once talking about her lows not being on the S-tier level. Arslan values characters with good lows very high, hence Akuma S+, and that is the reason why he has has expressly told in his stream why Asuka is not above B...because her lows suck.
Kazumi also has crap lows tho
@@artguy7992 Well if you look at her pokes from a damage point of view, sure. Put her lows aren't the main crux of the game. Her jab, 1,1 and df1 pressure is enough to shut down opponents. db3 is a very fast -12 low that forces crouch and gives +frames. It doesn't have a lot of range but with df1 and jab pressure you can sneak em in. Also her generic lows, d3 and d4 are much better than other generic lows and then there is db4. her db2 string though reactable, creates a mini mixup...Even knee had eaten that string from Arslan. The fact is that Alisa's low doesn't allow her to create the kind of sustained poke pressure like Kazumi can with her other lows. But...Alisa has many other things due to which she Raises upto the A-A+ category alongside Kazumi. Plus I never said Alisa has bad lows, just that her lows aren't the best. Lars, Asuka, Armor King...now these are the bad low characters.
Chikurin played Akuma as his side character since Season 1, he even came up with a lot of the staples people started to use.
Season 4 is over a month away? god damn it, Namco.
We will keep getting replies to reply videos until its the final video is a month long.
More like damn it 2020
Next week: Arslan Reacts to TheMainMan reacting to Arslan reacting to TheMainMan reacting to Arslan’s tier list
Wtf bro😁
I can totally see this happening
We've just entered the matryoshka doll arc :)
We've gone too far as a species.
The reason there are so many characters in B tier is Arslan doesn’t want to discourage people playing any of those characters.
Thank you Arslan. I will now spam snake edge on Xiaoyu in ranked :D
@@thathottstuff5075 bro. I use josie. I love her
Netizens : "TMM, u could just do a podcast with arslan like Jae did just to clear things up"
TMM : " but you know....adsense..
Entitled little baby leave 😬
Lei and Feng are pretty much underrated I believe
I like Arlsan's voice, it's like a Tekken tierlist ASMR
Now this is what u call going Overboard.
if Panda/Kuma can win tournaments, then I promise y'all that its up to the player more than the character.
Feng, Noctis and Katarina being in B aged like fine wine. At least Arslan was aware of Noctis' potential and felt it wasn't fully realized yet.
I feel like i have a super power right now, as someone who speak and understands urdu/punjabi. I don't have to read subtitles 😊😊😊😊
“The guy at the bottom here, maybe someone will donate to him” bruh 😂
If anything, it's really awesome to have two people outwardly state that they respect each other's stuff, even if they sometimes have different opinions. It's pretty notable considering all the hate and disrespect on the internet.
The main man knows hindi omg love from india🇮🇳🇮🇳
urdu hai wo
@@neolog602 hindi bhi mixed hai
@@sammystipsandtricks6338 agar tum khush hote ho tou sure
Sammy's Tips And Tricks it’s Urdu not mixed
@Arthur fleck most of them are Punjabi speaking, yess. But they know Urdu as well.
I think if Arslan wants to make further reaction on this topic then they both should schedule a live session and clear confusions and micconceptions.
I love how arslan gets really close to the camera: "Trust me I play pandas" was so funny lmao
Cool profile 😃
Chapati vs meatballs
I'm sorry MainMan, but the most pointless video in the world was Jesse Cox and Crendor reacting to each other about how to eat pickles in a chicken sandwich about 9 times. If MainMan and Arslan Ash can top that, my mind will be changed.
The 50 million ad breaks lmao
Ohh great now we need Arslan's reaction on TMM's reaction on Arslan's reacting on TMM's reaction on Arslan's tierlist
Buff Akuma, nerf Lars
Ash literally has the best, most accurate subtitles on YT.
That means a lot.
an ad every 3 minutes really? Can you even blame people for adblocking at that point.
It's like a mirror mirroring a mirror... I'm down for it
IMO you are analyzing characters by measuring their objective qualities ( reach, frames, execution difficulty, risky or not etc) and making a balance of these factors to rate them. Whereas Arslan is also looking at the positive matchups they can have. The difference is slight (which is why he agrees with you largely) but the nuance is that some characters may have some weaknesses on the paper but these can be minimized during a specific matchup due to using a particular tactic that works well for that fight Just my opinion though, thank you for the videos :)
Yeah that's nice and all about the B tiers regarding love and determination bumping them up a tier but that also applies to the tiers above it too
Coming next:
Arslan responds to TMM's response on arslans response to the TMM's tier list
31:20 dude, any characters "can" beat each other. Rangchu's panda beat a lot of S tiers. The thing about tiers isn't about "maybe" or "what if something outrageous happened", it's about, ceterus parabus, all other things being equal, in a match between equal players, which characters are generally superior.
Rangchu won Evo mostly due to the fact that almost no one knew the Tekken 7 Kuma matchup at all. This is demonstrated by the fact that after that Evo, Rangchu never got any noticeable tournament placements due to everyone else labbing the character
@@Ritsu362 agreed agreed. What I'm actually saying though is... a C tier CAN beat Akuma or an S tier... it's just not very likely! Even Gigas vs Leeroy, it's not unheard of for Gigas to take 1 round instead of being a 3-0 washout.
@@Jasonred79squeek oh definitely! Stuff like that happens in tournaments all the time, even at the top. But I feel like its largely based on either one player not knowing the matchup and the other player reading the other guy extremely well. Characters like Kuma and gigas are c tier for a reason. Crap range, crap movement, and nothing too op or good. Player skill and knowledge is what really allows one to win this character tho. In that case, these C tier characters can definetly beat A tier characters
@@Ritsu362 One day... ONE DAY, maybe, we'll see a Panda, Lars or Gigas win a tourney finals 3-0. ... ... ... YEAH RIGHT AS IF LOL!!! Yeah, those low tiers can often take a round, heck they can sometimes scrape out a 3-2 victory, but the majority of the time, the top tier fighters are just gonna stomp the low tiers 3-0 or 3-1.
It would be hillarious if Arslan reacts to this video aswell and then TMM makes yet another response. Imagine the title lmao xD
TMM responds to Arslans response to TMM's response.
TMM, what were your thoughts on the 90s anime movie?
What are your thoughts on that new call of duty black ops cold war tho?
it's trash
28 : 09 that's exactly what I said on his video like why he put howrang in the same tier as lars when hes clearly stronger then him and someone said "well he got beat by lars" that doesn't change the fact that howrang has better tools/frames then lars
I'm quite pleased of how when TMM says that KOF is famous at Pakistan, and refers to the players there picking Akuma and Eliza first, rather than referring to *an actual* KOF character that's already in the game, the evil blonde, Geese...
So They rather play characters with 2d elements, unknown to them, than playing an actual KOF character they're familiar with ? Sounds funny to me and I'd believe it tbh, Akuma is the most rewarding character in the game to master, and that's a fact till now.
When you talked about how technical KOF is, I wanted to start talking about how technical Jojo's Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle is. Then I realized that no-one plays that game.
I play that game
@@thathottstuff5075 Neat! What character? I main Part 1 Dio
ratmforthewin sike lol
@@thathottstuff5075 😲
ratmforthewin sorry :(
This is like the time when Doc reacted to Shroud, reacting to Doc, reacting to Shroud, reacting to Doc, reac.....
I'm still waiting for a god law to appear and shake the game and make things interesting.
Hey, new fan and player here! I decided to try tekken because of main mans content and its super fun but i need some help please. To help narrow down the issue my experience in fighting games is strictly mortal kombat (and yes i know its a baby game compared to tekken) but I do incredibly well with almost all the characters. (not meant as any sort of brag but to demonstrate i understand fundamentals that i can usually out box any opponent even if im using a new character) with that in mind im certainly no god tier player i can just hold my own against most people is all i mean, so to my surprise im having a serious issue with that in tekken. Specifically, im maining steve/bryan. with steve i can dodge all day and get people off me no problem but with bryan i cant seem to get people the hell off me. it seems like every match goes like this: they rush me down like crazy no mater who they use and i try so hard to get them to stop humping me with pokes but i either cannot get a move out to save my life or i end up spamming low pokes like a fricken wood pecker to just stop the endless harrasment. I was hoping someone could tell me how to keep people away with bryan and or why when i pick him do my opponents rush me like that? is that his weakness or something? i mean clearly its my personal weakness but does he suck up close or am i missing something? thank you
I am not a Bryan player but I do think being rushed down is one of his weaknesses. I notice I have a much easier time being offensive against him rather than defensive.
I am a Bryan and Kazumi main who started almost 6 months ago and Now I can hang with Bryan against high level players. To start off, you need to understand Bryan's keep out game with moves like 3+4, f3, db3, ff2 and a few other moves. Let me know if you wanna know a bit more and I can give you some pointers. Always happy to help a fellow Bryan player.
Tmm responds to arslan response to tmm responding to arslan tier list
Yeah no shit Sherlock
Arslan is great but as of the last times we saw him vs Knee. Knee is the best player in the world
I swear if I see an overused incorrect 'inception' joke in the comment section...
Plot twist: it's a random tier-list from reddit and we're in a genjutsu
Every char can win tournament,it all depends on the player. That's true. But,if you saw Knee picking Akuma and Arslan picking Lars,both people who understands the game,who would you bet your money on???? And that's why tier list Exist. Know Kami(YT) said something like that.
lol i thought TMM wouldn't do it.He actually did it. We are now in inception chamber.
Finally! I knew this was coming since I watched Arslan's vid a week ago.
I've played 2 eddies that were absolutely the best players I've ever played against online. I've also played a Lars that frame trapped like no other. Just from those players alone I'd rank Lars and Eddie near Paul. Sounds like these lists are just totally subjective.
Arslan: hello guys this is MainManPak here(better than the swe ver.) hope you all doin’ awesome as always. Today i’m going to do a response to a response of a response to a response of my tier list video a while ago.
Arslan basically just says what everyone else says: the game is balanced. You can win with anyone. Obviously there are way better characters and worse ones but you can win with all of them.
Arslan speaks so humbly and gently
tekken is a game where i can see a tierlist like this and agree with it and yet not hate the game for it, like im cool with it and i never had this feeling with any other game, like yea some characters are slightly better than others but not in a game breaking way
Can't believe a Sf character is the best character in a TEKKEN game
And here comes the inception.
9:49 Nina is kinda the same. With his sidestep 1 cancel (or whatever I don't play Nina) I saw that you can be + 10 to +15 something like that. It's the same thing that a taunt jet upper, theorically op but impossible in practice
next will be arslan reaction reaction reaction to reaction
TMM so naturally funny dude. Or at the very least your sense of humor and sarcastic nature clicks very well with me. Was dying when you were waiting for Arslan to say "Very good player".
It's an honor though. Ngl. : )
All I wanted to see was MainMan’s reaction to Arslan saying all characters are gonna have projectiles in the future.
I’d stop playing Tekken if that happened.
Your responding.... to a response...of your response.... great content :D
Arselan agreed with the mainmanSwe . U gotta love the mainmanSwe
Tier list are the personal opinión of each player struggling about every character tier s, and fault of knowledge in low tiers characters because they don't give a fuck those characters
End of the story lol
In other words, tier list are like butholes.
If you want to spend years in the game the better character is obliviously Devil Jin for the only reason that he seem to always be top tier no matter the game, he probably will still be top tier in the future Tekken games that'll come out
You should've worn the same thing #consistency
*REACT-CEPTION*
10:07
Yes, the execution on my main is SOHAI. I agree.
My conclusion: All the characters are good if you know how to play as them.
Thank you so much Lord Arslan and Lord MainMan
Now we just gotta wait for arslan’s response to tmm’s response to arslan’s response.
I main Heihachi and l play tournaments and won all love for Africa G Of Gs
RevenueManSwe getting that adsense
Chikurin played akuma since season 1. Don't know if calling him a tierwhore is correct tbh.
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People complaining about league having 150 characters with 4 skills and a passive. Tekken here having around 50 characters but with near to limitless combos equals to 500 or possibly a lot more league characters no wonder even pros cant make out every characters potential.
I mean league of legends has passives that are overbloated, stacking effects, percentage damage; true damage; interactions with items, actives, it’s simple once you invest in it but to not as dedicated players it’s hard to take it/ there is AD and AP scaling.
Yasuo’s Kit literally gives more options and wiggle room for adaptation than most of the Tekken 7 roster. Everyone plays on the same plane in Tekken. League of legends not so much. Look at Aphelios, number of move/abilities doesn’t mean depth. All Tekken characters can side step, block, duck they have a lot of universal stuff and they all just hit you. Whereas league of legends has somethings that provide use outside of hurting people; applying heals, shields, etc. I would say they are on the same playing field, though I lean more toward league of legends being more complex, but not as execution intensive. That’s just my opinion though. But it’s hard to compare the two genres. An interesting conversation to be had, I used to play league a few years ago but I moved to fighting games because I find it fits my lifestyle now a lot more than my college days.
@@somethingcool9979 I can totally see where you coming from and actually I agree but league is a weird case I guess I just used a bad comparison they are actually too much different genre of games tekken requires you to have good execution of button combos while lol needs good mouse control and knowledge of general game mechanics . It's a good point to say they are at par. The part where tekken excels is you are not depending on your teams performance as oppose to lol. Since it's 1v1. Lol on the other hand has a lot more factors than character mastery like you said you could be the best Yasuo player in the world but it doesn't make you challenger in rankings. While being the best akuma in tekken you will hit prime and stay there most of your time playing. TBH I confess I kinda meme compared the games without putting thought into it.
And I put more thought into my comment of people not being able to maximize every characters potential in tekken is due to how big the player base that play the game is. Lol is played by millions so automatically you have better data on most characters and still there are sleeper OP characters with low play rate in the game.
Please just zoom-call each other. It will save all of us a lot of time. 😛😂
This method of communication is like the letter-writing of 15th century, except that we have video now.
How on earth is Lee that high O_o?
To me, Asuka just lack a viable offensive pressure tool.
Negan seems to require more commitment to take risk imo.
Excellent punishment, great counter hit game, long wall carry to make sure you pile on the pressure even if damage is average. A lot of good moves that are safe or have a better risk reward ratio. Lee's only drawback is that for the same amount of work, you can get characters like Jin, Steve, Julia, Zafina, Akuma and Geese...even Eliza imo, to give you better throughput for your efforts. Same drawback with Bryan.
@@BullC6 I'm Lee main as well. In previous tier lists he had always been somewhere lower than average. Season three buffed his b4 and Deadly Edge but also nerfed his Acid Rain and d3. So I didn't think he would be rated that high.
I seriously don't see how Julia is S tier Maybe A tier. She has no good ways to pressure, has to take the risks all the time on the offensive doesn't have low-risk pokes only safe launcher is qcf+2. You win neutral vs Julia by not pressing anything including forward and sidesteps. If you try to keep her out you will die. In the close-range, that's where you fight her and yes she has 4 and ff+1,4. But her lows are pretty bad(aside from b&a). She has crazy situational 50/50 and amazing Oki, combo damage and wall carry. I rewatched EVO 2020 Matches and honestly, Mikio got a lot of wins because nobody knew the Julia vs Leroy matchup with the exception of Mikio (People would try to punish b&a miss a punish and get launched for it) And playing aggressively in neutral(It doesn't work vs Julia). And had the impression that players didn't have enough "mental RAM" for defense due to playing new char.
Tier list inception
I haven't played T7 in months but isn't Akuma relatively easier for someone who is coming from the Street Fighter side of things. Isn't a lot of his command list similar to his movelist from street fighter, just adapted for the 3D fighting engine of Tekken? I didn't play Akuma much in T7, I was mostly playing Armor King, and Lee. I'm not good at Tekken by any means, I'm way better at Street Fighter, I just want to understand the situation. Please mind my ignorance in this subject.
good lord how things have changed
Oh man, he actually did it!
They don't know that we know they know we know....
My god, main man, how many ads are in this video? lol
Yes main man. Get the response to the response to the response to the response to the response
So Akuma in tekken is like jigglypuff in melee.
2:02 yeah but you manage to make the video longer than arslan ash reaction lol
I mean that was his point though, that it would only make his own video longer, and it did.
this is why i hate looking up to youtube comments replies...so toxic
@@RaeBordz27 Please elaborate on how anything I said was toxic.
By parameters in which you could label my reply as "toxic", your comment as well as this reply of yours would be 10x worse. I don't get it.
@@RaeBordz27 This is what you said 4 days ago: "Someone in the chat said "why are we offended by facts" because it's facts and it's hard to have a reasonable argue with facts so people take the "hate,toxic,unreasonable argue" route.
Just sad man just sad..." End quote.
What happened to this mindset? You just did the same thing.
25:55
Mainman : Eu players have weak fundimentals they use built in defence moves
After criticism mainman : I didnt mean that Eu 9/10 but Us 9.5/10
Also mainman : tekken 7 favors attacking unga bonga playstyle being in opponents face bla bla bla
After arslans correction he says : no that was a misunderstandin ididnt mean that
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this is what i subscribe for
Okay he's not right about chikurin. Chikurin picked akuma because of Ulsan as he struggled with this MU a lot
U must be go with Urdu language subtitle also 😡
U must be come to Pakistan to make a tier list with Arsalan face to face 😇
I wonder if TMM will do the TWT online EU North