I grew up as an atheist I was a flyleaf fan I didn't know that they were a Christian and when I was a teenager strung out on drugs and in 2012 I got backstage passes to meet the band and Lacy Sturm led me to Christ.
Just like John Cooper, my mum also had cancer. While I was lost in drinking and drugs and wild teenager. The night I got baptized, my mums best friend told me, "all your mum ever wanted was to see you saved... At a meeting a pastor asked anybody looking prayer for healing to come forward, when my mum and her friend got to the stage, she said 'I don't want prayer for myself, I want you to pray that my son will get saved'. And I did 15 years later. I will see her in heaven 👑🙌
I used to work at a Bible College in So. Cal., where they would have free concerts for the public during the summer. Almost all the bands that would play had contract riders that included weird or sometimes even crazy requirements for them to play. Some were long lists of foods, requests for no employees to approach the band, a particular brand of expensive bottled water, etc.. Skillet & Christafari were by far the easiest bands to work with. Skillet said they could just eat whatever the students eat in the cafeteria, and wanted zero special attention. And they were super humble down to earth. They have had a special spot in my heart ever since.
@@raidrfrk we did an evangelistic concert outreach in Mexicali with them. We had dozens of Bible College students that were sleeping on the cement floor of a church with just blankets and sleeping bags. When the van driver picked them up at the airport he asked them if they wanted to go straight to the hotel. Mark, the lead singer told him they would sleep where the students were. The ladies in the band stayed in the pastor's house. But Mark wanted no special treatment. They were VERY down to earth and loved hangin out with the students. Mark even let one of the students go up on stage during the outreach and belt out some rap. Awesome experience.
The weird contract rider thing had its genesis in stage safety. If you don't have a wine-glass filled with brown MnM's in your dressing room, per the contract, you can't trust the overhead rigging not to fall on your band in the middle of a show, also per the contract.
A Pastor here, thank you both so much for standing up for Jesus and for truth. So many of us feel so localized with our voice that the message is not getting out. You are helping to amplify the message of Jesus and I support you fully and am right there with you
I feel that one of the reasons Christians 'lost credibility' is even more basic -- Loss of belief in Creation. The Bible correlates purity with recognizing God as Creator. If we dont take the creation account seriously we lose the story of Adam and Eve, We lose original sin. And which parts of the Bible do we keep or set aside? If we write off creation, it makes perfect sense to set aside theology of suffering and hell too, because they are even harder to explain. According to a study by Ken Ham 'Already Compromised', In Christian Colleges and Universities -science majors are more likely to believe in a young earth than religion majors! This is because Christians who are science majors realize how Weak the theory of evolution is. Maybe if we address this foundation, which is cracked and falling apart will have more of an effect than we realize. God bless you
@@micheleh5269 well then why hasn't creation been shown to be true? After all it's been thousands of years and still nothing. Meanwhile in 500 years science has brought mankind countless discoveries. Currently at more than one per day.
@@harrysphincter6496 I love science and glad for new inventions. Inventors and scientists have often believed in creation. According to evolutionists the last couple of major steps in man evolving from ape happened over the last 4 million years. But there were not that many hominids. Here is a quote from Wikipedia on Prehistoric Demography (linked below): "A total of 2 billion to 20 billion hominids that lived during that approximately 4,000,000-year time span.[11]" We currently have 7.8 billion on the earth today. During those 4 million years it would have taken decades to produce 100,000 births. But we have 100,000 people being born every single day now. Yet instead of genetic mutations leading in positive directions we usually see very negative outcomes. We are involved in the special needs community - and several have a 'genetic defect'. And these defects can be something as simple as getting 2 copy of mom's instead of 1 mom and 1 dad in a certain position on a certain chromosome. The results from what seems like a minor mutation can actually affect several parts of a person and on ability to walk, speak, learn, vision...parents of children with genetic defects think evolution is very unlikely. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_demography#:~:text=Prehistoric%20demography%2C%20paleodemography%20or%20archaeological,and%20hominid%20demography%20in%20prehistory.
@@micheleh5269 " I love science.. " and then make a feeble attempt at misrepresenting it. Cite the source of your claim that negative outcomes exceed beneficial. How exactly would a random mutation choose?
@@micheleh5269 what exactly is an Evolutionist? Evolution is a field of science and NOT a belief system. Ironically a belief system trying to claim verifiable evidence as a belief while using belief. Are you really that ignorant or that indoctrinated
Seminaries are largely to blame. You will hear positive teaching regarding Liberation Theology before you will hear any serious consideration of Biblical justice.
@SwiftJustice2020 Google the definition of woke and read the gospels in context and you will see that Jesus was probably the most woke person in history
@@karaa7595 my 5 year old daughter is the same. What an absolute blessing. She always shares her faith and reaches people I never could. Each time we go grocery shopping or into the world we do it as a team and what a beautiful thing that is. Peace and grace to you and yours. Keep shining and enduring. ❤️ 🕊
Be humble and continue to pray over your sons and daughters. Early acceptance of Christ as redeemer and savior is no guarantee of lifelong walking with and in the Spirit. We do have a HUGE Impact on our children. But there are no guarantees
Huh 🤷♂️? They’re already pretty “uncool.” If being “uncool” means they create more atheists with the anti science and homophobic propaganda, then sign me up 👍.
I used to volunteer at Cornerstone festival. I gave artists rides to the grounds. Of all the artists I met this man was the most "real". When I picked him up he hoped in the front seat and spoke to me. All the others rode in the back and I was basically just a driver to them. He's the real deal.
My former youth pastor said he saw John Cooper at a gas station years ago. He walked up to John and said, "You ever heard of a band called Skillet?" John replied with, "Nah, they suck." He apparently then stuck around for a while just talking with my youth pastor. I never forgot that story.
It’s the small things and the small moments in life that make a difference for eternity. One doesn’t have to become a mega church preacher in order to store up vast treasures in heaven.
Never listened to Skillet back in the day, but John Cooper is a rock star for standing up for truth. Appreciate you speaking out, keep fighting for the faith.
As an individual with an Eastern Orthodox mindset, I have had a lot of struggle showing respect to non-denominational Christians. After encountering your channel I have realized how loveless I have been towards many Christians lately. You personally have helped me overcome this hesitation I have to share my love of Christ with those that don't fully theologically align with myself. You are so wise and have exemplified in my mind a quote from St. Nektarios..."Love should never be sacrificed for the sake of dogmatic differences". Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
He stopped a show to tell my daughter Happy Birthday on her 13th birthday. He walked over after his 2nd song to walk over and ask her her name and how old she was. A girl told her to yell that it was her birthday to him backstage and she did. He smiled and waved, then he came over during the show to talk to her. She was in tears. She's such a big fan
I attended a mega church for a few months. The pastor declared on New Years he wanted 100k followers on his Instagram by the end of the year. I found that troubling
It's important to read the Word and trust in the Lord and not in men. He said it out loud... how many are hiding that desire? But God has a remnant and we can be included in that remnant as we walk by faith.
@@kingchris1353 you can't say that because a church is large, that it's satanic. There is truth out there. I would agree that it seems to be looking like the prosperity gospel (which is fake) seems to be attracting huge congregations and seems to be the new and popular norm. I just left a huge church that I learned much from, but they started to get into "racial reconciliation" under the guise of "white people are all, racist."
This blessed me! I too am confused as to why people are so silent about Gods righteousness. I’m praying that God will give me wisdom as I study and a holy boldness.
I'm praying for your boldness, Whittney! You have it in you to spread the truth in the way that God ordained you to. Can you imagine all the people you could influence with the truth just by speaking it?!! Go get um!!❤
Because there is a demonic stronghold in the culture silencing them and they are caving in for various reasons...fear of man, love of the world, etc...
I was held by the deep state aka Illuminati aka New World Order for 8yrs 3mo. and 11 days. We had a planned front row seat to 911! Start with Part 1 Meeting Jesus while working for the Illuminati. I made a series of short videos to tell my story as it it very deep stuff and includes Obama wearing a talisman around his neck at the age of 8. That same talisman aka Baal figure was found at the dig sight in Israel I went to in 2000. A town condemned for lack of faith by Jesus Christ! My story connects Nostradamus to Obama and my old boss who is a 3rd Order Jesuit who had worked for NASA and who also did a conference paper on automated air traffic control in conjunction with NATO 10 years prior to 911. ruclips.net/video/fBfrWaeAYPo/видео.html
Funny thing is that when i was younger people in my family and church would said this same things about skillet's music, that is not really christian music, it is satanic music trying to confuse young people and all of that stuff haha
@@danielwilliams693 actually you would be surprised that they are christian rock which i was allowed to listen so I listened to creed and skillet when I was in my youth. I was also allowed to listen to classic rock but that was because my uncle was a Christian himself and he was in a metal band himself. You can consider my situation lucky or privileged when it came to music because I came from a family that just loved music.
@@svenred6eard757 woah guys, I found the classic atheist straw man in a RUclips comment section devoid of any and all historical context or true meaning.
@@harrysphincter6496 Harry believes the Easter Bunny, evolution, and in the universe popping into existence uncaused. He also believes in the ancient mythological idea of animals coming from one another. It's where Darwin borrowed his idea.
@@TMPreRaff that's hypocrisy... it's y atheists believe in atheism. Someone told them a regurgitated ancient tale of humanism where animals magically change to other animals because someone told them to
"If you're not WILLING to draw up your sword, then I'll have to draw mine." I just love that quote. It's so relevant in today's world as much as it has always been. Good chats, I appreciate you both.
@Sabbath 7th dayBelieving in false prophetess Ellen White over the Word of God is idolatry. Living in the law instead of Grace denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Nonsda.org
@Sabbath 7th day learn some church history. Even the first apostles already started coming together on the sunday. The sunday was always a special day for the first christians. Its was a celebration day becayse it was Christ's resurrection. Also the gentiles had slaves. It would be impossible for the slaves to not work on the sabbath day. God knew this and his holy spirit lead paul and the first christians to know this
The guy is speaking with a christmas tree behind his back (prohibited as a pagan practice in Jeremiah) then they r discussing whats wrong with christianity today..they drifted away from "you the only true God" (Jésus speaking about God) ""I go to my God n your God" drifted away from the chama to the trinity drifted away from accepting the next prophet in Isiah 42 (mountain sala is in todays saudi arabia, n kedar is the arab ancestor of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) drifted away from the Real teaching of Jesus Christ peace be upon him to the teaching of corrupt church injected under the cover of unknown Writers John Matthew..dont blame The Quran for debunking those Who falsified the true message of Jesus Christ peace be upon him.
@@mbarnabeus Hello brother, the scripture verse in Jeremiah is not talking about Christmas trees lol. Ps. it isn't talking talking about trees at all. You took one sentence and ripped it out of the passage that surrounds it. Yes that one single sentence is about a tree, but the verses before are very important to understanding that verse, and the verses IMMEDIATELY AFTER are even MORE important to understanding that verse. We cannot rip sentences out the Bible and make them say what we want. There are 3 rules to proper Biblical exegesis: 1. Context 2. Context 3. Context. Read 10 sentences before and 10 sentences after and it will be crystal clear it is talking about cutting down the tree, getting a master craftsman who will carve and shape it (who does that for a Christmas tree anyway? Your argument falls apart right there). Then they will paint it with silver and gold....and it is talking about carving IDOLS! and then the flowing verses talk about those idols that were just carved. It is extremely clear if you read it in context You do know that "verses" are not divinely inspired like the rest of the Bible. The "chapter and verse numbers" were added in centuries later. They were added in so that we could easily and quickly reference the scripture when studying and talking about it to others (this should be common knowlege). The original books - eg. Genesis, Jeremiah, Matthew etc etc - are actually books unto themselves. The Bible is made up of 66 different books. This is vitally important! When you read a book - even textbooks- do you read it sentence by sentence and then derive your meaning on a standalone basis. Of course not! The meaning of each sentence in any book is based on the CONTEXT of the story - especially what comes directly before and after. So we can't just pull a single sentence and make up a meaning for it - especially when the meaning is given directly after that sentence. So if you read the paragraph before and after that verse you will clearly see that it is talking about making idols out of wood. Once you cut the tree down it says they get a master craftsman and he carves it and covers it in silver and gold (exactly like the idols the other nations were making) We also understand scripture in context of the rest of scripture. and the "paint them silver and gold" is found in another place in the Bible (the verses are clearly referencing eachother) and that other verse is ALSO talking about idols. It's as if they were interpreting eachother (how about that!) And then the sentence right after that (amd before that) it talks about worshipping the idols that were made out of that tree. It is describing idols it is so clear but you have to read it IN CONTEXT.
I really needed this , I’ve found it so difficult to live in this world. This gave me courage to realize I am not supposed to be comfortable here. Our culture does not often allow messages like this to get out. I thank you both so much for this episode
It's like bizzle said, study the lie and they can make new lies up, study the truth and you'll know when the lie comes. And we all know the only truth is the Bible. Study it, know the lies when you see them. Wokeness is strictly anti Christian. Christianity is about personal responsibility and wokeness and socialist communism is about it's everyone else's fault whatever happens to you. There is only one justice, social justice is a mockery of Christianity.
@@redimi24jc Thank you for your response, however, that is a different kind of sword :D. You mean a physical sword, John Cooper means the sword of the word of God (part of the armor of God), as described in Ephesians 6:13-17. I hope this makes things clearer 👍
@@amberslahlize7961 Yes, but in that moment he was talking about a literal sword :D, in the context of physically hurting/ attacking others. Jesus also said: "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." -Matthew 10:34 And later in Ephesians 6:13-17 we are told, to put on the armor of God, which also contains the sword of the Word of God. This sword of the Word of God is what John Cooper is talking about, and which all Christians should have and if necessary use. I hope this was helpful 👍
Listening to you two talk has helped me realize that I haven’t been on the right path for the last while of my life. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for that. This has really helped me a ton✊🙏
What a marvelous conversation. As a Christian homeschool mom of 3 now-teen-aged sons, it's so encouraging to hear testimonies of a mom's influence reading the Bible to her kids. God's Word truly does not return void! I'll be watching this one again with them. 💗📖🤗
The Bible is a lamp to my feet. I did not like reading the Bible, then I asked God to give me a hunger for it! I would say that I average 5 to 10 hours per day listening to the Bible. If you are spiritually weak, ask God to give you a desire for His Word. Jesus said, "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness." He is the light of the world!
@@kyleisaacson4852 Obviously he hasn't then. Even if he is just a NT reader, there's still plenty in there god can give him a hunger for. Such as: Killing trees because they are out of fruit bearing season; drowning innocent pigs; ordering us to obey our slave masters; giving up on our families to follow a cult leader; magic spells like 'walk on water' , 'create food' and 'resurrect'; or the mushroom trip ending. Plenty to go on!
I was at an extreme low in my life. I was not suicidal BUT I had my toes hanging over the cliff. I felt hopeless, no joy...and in my desperation, I called out to Jesus. The restoration in my life is amazing. I am now married to my 1st boyfriend. We have a very happy life. He will restore the years the locust stole. Thank You Jesus!!!
One must never tolerate evil. For first, evil is tolerated; then embraced, then hailed as being good-then it becomes unlawful to do what is actually good.
Only a fool would go along with these evil mask mandates. This is not about a virus! Wearing a mask is dirty and it spreads more disease than it prevents mainly because people don't know how to use them properly. For someone with discernment the masks appear evil and we should have nothing to do with even the appearance of evil. First the masks were tolerated, then embraced, then hailed as being good, and soon it will be unlawful to go anywhere without a mask. Don't be a fool! Take off the masks!!!
Science doesnt tell you anything. it just is, it doesnt speak and it doesnt order. The word of God changes. in the old testament it was just one god and now its three in one? Slavery was permitted in the old testament and now it isnt. eating pork wasnt allowed, now it is. Death for working on the sabath, now no penalty. Homosexuals used to be prohibited in churches, in the future, they will be pastors in churches. The old and new testament change so much that its just two different gods. But I dont blame God if he does exist. Chrsitianity and Islam are just man made religions.
@@andrewperkins9346 He's not talking about true science, but the fake science being pushed by the Left everywhere you look. Even a lot of the "scientists" today contradict proved science as they force in their political agendas to try and pollute the results of studies and basic common sense.
@@irvingalfaro8735 Boy are you confused! Go and study the Bible with proper Hermeneutics and stop trying to eisegete the Word of God. Islam and Christianity are as alike as feces and Filet Mignon are.
Skillet's music had gotten me through some very hard times growing up. Suicidal, miserable and self harm. "Last Night" and "Whispers in the Dark" kept me going. Reminded me constantly that God had me and would always be here for me.
"Subtract Jesus, and money and influence will be YOURS!!" That struck me as a real, satanic "temptation in the desert" moment. The parallel is chilling.
That was wonderful, now I don’t feel alone, thinking all my Christian friends and pastors where going over the cliff. I feel I can speak more boldly in the truth even when it’s not popular anymore. 🙌🏼🔥🙌🏼
All because these people were willing to speak the truth. You can be that truth speaker for someone in your life. You can stand up and gice someone else that courage too.
I grew up as a young Christian on Skillet’s music. We even covered their song around once or twice. I’m happy that they have grown even stronger in their faith.
I became a Christian in 1991. I served in music ministry until 2016. Now I can't find a church that doesn't make me cringe. I think we are still supposed to be Christians and find our ministry and fellowship outside the walls of a church. Thank you for confirming that I'm not crazy. The culture has been given over to their own devices. We are living in a post Christian world, but there are still opportunities to serve God for those who don't seek the spotlight.
@@johntorres6566 leaving the church is not the same as leaving a church or leaving Jesus. I'm still looking for fellowship in the Church and with the Lord personally.
It's so hard to find a church that isn't too cringe or isn't too cultural. But it's worth the time investment because it's exhausting to not have a safe space (if you'll pardon the term) to be fed and poured into, recharge for the daily grind. The church isn't supposed to be the outsourcing of evangelism it's supposed to be the training grounds to equip believers to go out and evangelize and minister. It took my husband and I a few years to find a new church when we moved, but it was so worth it. I'm serving on the worship team now and feel even more peace and confirmation it's where God wants us. We've made some irreplaceable friendships here and been blessed by solid sermons and down to earth people who genuinely care. I realize your comment is a couple years old but I hope and pray you've been able to find a church like that and enjoy the blessings and resources it provides. And remember, we're all a part of the one true church, Jesus's adopted family. ☺️💖
Skillet is the band that is unparalleled in both bolstering me and tearing me down. No other music I have heard disarms me, lays me raw, and builds me up as much as theirs. It is so wonderful to hear how grounded John is. "Read a book!" No kidding! "Read the old dead guys!" Yes! I was raised on Miles Stanford, Ruth Paxon, and J.B. Stoney. Thanks for having this interview, and thank you, John, for being real and being out there. Love to the band!
I accepted Christ in 2012, the year that you said things started getting relative in American Christianity. It’s encouraging because 2012 is when I heard the clear Gospel, not sugarcoated or watered down. Sometimes I feel like the one of the only young, newlywed women who submits to the Word of God. Thank you for standing up for Truth
I absolutely love John Cooper and Skillet. It’s great to see a local guy (Memphis, TN) make such an impact for sound theological thinking. This Northeast Arkansas gal is so proud!!! Kudos
Just please pray and research first. It doesn't take too much discernment, about 5 minutes. We are all sinners saved by grace, but conversely you will know them by their fruits.
I hope you like their stuff, Skillet is one of my favorite bands, and hearing Cooper speaking out as he has been had only encouraged me more to support them. He has been speaking out against the watered down truth of Scripture! Unleashed is a solid and my favorite album, Comatose was my first album I heard by them.
I was in a band called Zoa back in the mid 90’s and we were playing a festival with Rez Band when Sparrow records came out to see us! They said we sounded great but we need to rethink using the J-word so much in our music, because they were looking for crossover potential. We said absolutely not! Jesus got us to where we are and we’re not going to deny Him in our music! Needless to say! They didn’t pick us up! Glad you stood up to the very tempting offer!! Blessings to you both!
@@glitchfaith0076 look for the band Zoa and the cd “The Storm” or “Vexed” our two studio recordings. There are a few other bands named Zoa but if you search with the CDs name you should find us. I also have some videos of our reunion we had in 2009 on my RUclips site ... they aren’t the best quality lighting wise but the audio is ok! When you don’t have a label backing you make due with what you’ve got! Thank you so much for your interest
@@spottedsaint957 no Zao was a Christian core band we were Zoa a Christian rock band. The word Zoa was from the Greek and was used to describe the 4 living creatures that stood before the throne of God in the book of Revelation
@@Matzoa07 that's cool. My dad was in a small rock band in his youth before he was saved. After that he always wanted to start something or do praise and worship at his church but never really got the chance sadly.
You really know your old theologians. I haven't seen a Francis schaeffer quote in years on one of these comment sections. I've watched his two major series and listen to a few of his old audio recordings from lectures in the 70s. Have you ever heard of Jonathan Edwards? That guy was fire! got sinners so offended at him that he had to preach on his father's grave to keep them from killing him once.
“This is what the Lord says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’ Therefore hear, you nations; you who are witnesses, observe what will happen to them. Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words and have rejected my law.” Jeremiah 6:16-19
@@redhedhik-chik2510 - yes indeed. That’s definitely happening today as good is being called evil, and evil is being called good. “The wicked freely strut about when what is vile... is being honored among men”
Something I was noticing is a lot of people say "Well, that's my truth." .... but... is it THE Truth? Judges says the people fell away from God and began to do right in their own eyes. Which is exactly what the My Truth movement is .
God is the definition of truth, anything outside of God is a lie. Whenever I hear people claim to have their own truths I'm reminded that Satan has his own "truth" also & he is a VERY GOOD liar.
Amen, the name of Jesus is used across the board in the name of their agenda, their doctrine, their philosophy, their progressivism, their spirituality, and their other gods beliefs add Jesus the prophet not Jesus The Savior God's Holy Son! 😔👍🙏🙏
Your statement is correct. Everybody needs to know this! The whole world is drunk on the doctrines of Babylon. INCLUDING and ESPECIALLY the visible Christian church! PLEASE if you can sense the deadness of the institutional churches and different ministries but can't put your finger on it. I'm pleading with you to understand something very important here. The mainstream Christian system is not of God. Rev 17:5 - "Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots, And Abominations Of The Earth." Mystery Babylon The Great is the Vatican - “And the woman which thou sawest, is that great Citie which reigneth ouer the kings of the earth.” - Rev 17:18 And she has harlot daughters which represent the protestant church world. And “the Abominations Of The Earth” are corrupt scriptures. And the final bible that will unite all faiths is called Wormwood/the Abomination of desolation. cvillebiblebaptist.com/AdultEducation/Vatican%20and%20United%20Nations%20Bible.pdf And Jesus Christ is calling His people out.
Rev 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heauen, saying, Come out of her, my people, that yee be not partakers of her sinnes, and that yee receiue not of her plagues:” The most important thing to understand is that GOD CAN BE TRUSTED to preserve His word for every generation forever as He promises us in Psalms 12:6-7 and you do not need men to teach you. 1 John 2:27 “But the anointing which ye haue receiued of him, abideth in you: and yee need not that any man teach you: But, as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is trueth, and is no lye: and euen as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” It’s vital to know, especially right now, that God has kept His word in tact. There is still an every word testimony with us! The following clip by Reg Block is what the Lord used to open my eyes to the truth of Gods promises in Mark 13:31, Psalm 12:6-7, Psalms 138:2, and Matt 4:4 and so on. It’s not more lifeless information. It is powerful and life changing and I’m grateful for it! ruclips.net/video/tAMOquyQu-8/видео.html The next video is a lesson by John Doerr on the pure word of God in the English language, which is found in the av1611 kjv. This is a much different testimony than the King James bible you are able to easily find in the churches and the so called "Christian bookstores". Please pray and genuinely take this before the Lord. He will show you. (Prepare to be attacked once you start down this path) The devil and his ministers don’t want this going out. ruclips.net/video/C9lIWdQ0rc0/видео.html I prayed a long time to know what the truth was, because over the years I grew increasingly confused, frustrated, misguided and so on.. But like most of us, I kept returning to church Sunday after next hoping something would change. If I sang more, prayed harder, got more involved, etc, ...maybe something would give. But nothing ever did. I must have walked a thousand isles. It had gotten to a point where a friend at the time said, “just try and sing". He meant well, but it was always disingenuous so I never did. Long story short - my whole Christian life was that way until recently. (powerless) God has since saved me through genuine faith alone in Jesus Christ and now my labouring has finally ceased and I share in the Lords light burden and easy yoke. I’m born again of the Spirit. I really hope this reaches somebody. If this is you... honestly, please look into what I’m saying. God is rich in mercy and His patience is unmatched. He's been drawing me for a long time. Maybe He’s drawing you too and this is the message you needed. There is still hope. This link is a series of interviews between Reg Block and John Doerr that go in depth regarding Johns trip to England for the purposes of co-producing three films: A lamp in the dark, Tares among the wheat and A bridge to babylon. The three films (free to watch), cover the history of the bible. More specifically the preservation of Gods word and the measures that have been taken to cast doubt on, and ultimately destroy it. (it's a treasure of information for the Saints) - find the first interview to start on. ruclips.net/channel/UCIfGUbjTsGu1dfoNqYUZzmgvideos here is one very final clip on the "servants of Lucifer" ruclips.net/video/DuVTlYYos0c/видео.html "(if it were possible,) they shall deceiue the very elect.” It’s imperative to understand that the av1611 is much different than the 1769 KJV that most believe is the true 1611 but is not. The KJV only movement doesn’t use the authorized version of 1611 either. This is the bible that Rome has been trying to destroy and cast doubt on since its inception. Everything, from the gun powder plot to false rumours of King James being gay. It contains all the prophecies in tact. Things like, what is the mark of the beast, what is wormwood, who and what is Antichrist, who are Leviathan and Behemoth representations of, and so on. If the scriptures are broken, the prophets are killed and the church can’t hear what the Spirit is saying. freely ye haue receiued, freely giue.” Matt 10:8
@@underwaves75 Do you know who Melissa Daugherty is? I follow her here on u-tube. She loves God's word and shares pretty straight forward videos. Love to see the younger generation rightly dividing the truth these days!! 👍😉🙏
My God, its sooo refreshing to hear this. I agree and feel like too many so called "believers" are not standing up for righteousness. Too scared to be persecuted. They'd rather be accepted by all and deny Jesus. God is not a weak, passive God, he's Almighty! Time for us to stand up and not be ashamed of the gospel! Bless you all! Lets Go!!!
It is not that simple jesus died as an enemy of the state not the son of god simply saying a name is not standing for anything the church became so corrupt that the name jesus has become synonyms with ppl be turned away from God I don't need to say the word jesus to lead people to God I've never even read the Bible but some fuckin how I ended up living the God damn thing and I'm not a christian I've literally been to heaven with dozens of others and it was damn empty no humans around only God and the throngs were there to great us I had to choose from finally being safe after years of torment and waging war because my actions as a child led to me being forsaken as a child I tried to kill God because there was a war to be fought and I was the only won that made it to the battlefield at 12 years old I took a stand to try a protect what I chershed and your ppl think you know what a real man is when you got children out here fighting your battles for you and God was the only thing around and he would not help I didn't understand why he wouldn't help so I attacked him and to be clear here the same power thats in God is in all of us the only thing that separates God from man is God can choose weather or not it exists God is Creation we are a product of creation I was gonna hit him and he was gonna feel it make that clear the only thing that stoped me was when I got close enough to look in his eyes I saw the pain in them was no different then mine and he wanted me to do it...... I can't do this anymore you guys man I can't believe how far down we are
I found God clutching a razor blade he said look at the fuckin mess they made they would trade they're hearts if it were made of gold but they are as worthless as the souls they sold
“We need to go back to old wisdom.” One of my big concerns for years is that the older generation is being replaced with the young. There is so much knowledge and wisdom in the older generation! When I moved to a near area several years ago I looked for a church with a pastor and staff that was not just young people. There were only a few... Such a shame to see the Body of Christ push out the old for the new. We don’t need young “hip” pastors, we need those who have been in the fight for a long time and have a wealth of help to pass along! I am certainly not against raising up the young to serve, we should, but we can’t just eliminate the old warriors!!!
I wonder if that’s a regional thing or a denominational thing or a urban/rural thing. The average age of most of the churches I have attended (both United Methodist and Southern Baptist) is probably in the late 70s. I think the current average age of attendees at the church I grew up in is in the 80s. My current church family has a pretty good mix of young families and elders but I bet the average age of attendance is 60 something. But these are all small churches in rural areas...
I think you can blame "Sunday School" and "Youth Ministry" etc which kept the young people from mingling with the older people and made sure they never actually joined "the church." Their egos were stroked. They were entertained "in Jesus name." The closest thing to "Christianity" most of these people heard was at best "moralistic therapeutic deism." They've now hijacked the Christian label.
@@db2888 you know what maby you didn't, but what young people do you know actually goes around trying to limit (old warriors) because I have never been in contact with any so called old warriors who ever cared about anyone younger than them, most young people dont even go to chruch everyday to have a relationship with Jesus christ, so how can the younger generation be trying to replace anyone? Most people these days focus on christ by themselves, so if all the older people hate the fact that( some) younger people are coming in chruch trying to show different and more open ideas about having a relationship with Jesus christ that is (bible based), than please just keep the seats and we can stay away and focus on Jesus christ by are selves. We don't limit Jesus christ to chruch and traditions
I am not familiar with very much contemporary christian music, save for the songs "Our God is an awesome God", and that one song by a very deep base singer of 3rd Day (i think), and that is about it. Please elaborate on what christian bands are singing about. I hear that many of these songs are rather empty with much repetition of the same words.
@@xyz-bz1fc about the early 2000 many Christian labels where bought by the big 3 record labels and asked artists to drop Jesus and you will make more money many of them did . They found themselves in debt marriage broken a mess. I'm not gonna name anyone but many have repented and are changing direction.
@@trueworshiplife Thanks, I did not know that. The follow up question/observation I have; is how much were they into Jesus if they can just drop Him for the sake of making more money?
*Awesome God* was written and sung by my friend Rich Mullins. He was killed in a car wreck, my friend Mitch McVicker was with him and we almost lost him too. Rich hated "Awesome God", or thought it was not one of his better songs and said he thought it would "fall out of use". But that's the one Rich song everyone knows. You must listen to the verses too though, churches seem to just like the chorus. Reich's music... I can't think of much that's been that good, especially in the last (yikes, this will be 24 years, feels like yesterday) years. I was so sad recently, put Rich in "random" and just had myself a mini concert a few nights ago. It was just the best time! A lot of Mitch's music is really good too, his life show is fantastic, I always encourage people to see him live.
This was so powerful. I was a huge fan of both skillet and zoey girl as a teen and had no idea the ministries you are providing. I believe in the whole word of God. Yeshua’s blood is our redemption. I’ve been trying to put my finger on why I’ve been so disturbed by social justice but you both made it so clear. Praise the Lord for both of you. May Yahovah bless you two so completely.
What John was saying about young people that never learned to make a case is a good point but I would add that they have never learned to think for themselves. Instead they just parrot the latest popular theory to stay relevant.
@@bkaye62 Same problem. People don't read the Word for themselves, but think they can make an argument against it. People don't think for themselves, but believe what they've been told must be so. Without having a plumbline of truth outside of our "feelings," we have nothing against which to test the things others want us accept as gospel, and are therefore we find ourselves unable (unwilling/unconcerned??) to "take every thought captive," as instructed in the scriptures. (2 Corinthians 10:5)
I think more so he hit on the fact that young people are often going off a philosophy that by questioning everything and deconstructing any message they hear, they are thinking for themselves. Many are parroting back socially popular messages buy many othes are very much following their own human wisdom and very much "thinking for themselves" problem is, like he points out, this is usually happening without the real time or patience to truly understand the thing they are deciding about. But the real issue is that God calls us not to think for ourselves but to look at things through His heart and His word. Thinking for oneself in this day and age is honestly so exhausting.
I didn’t think I’d watch this whole video but all I can say is wow! Totally worth it! Finally “famous” Christians standing up for the truth for once instead of what’s popular. Thanks for the awesome music and speaking the truth John!
This introduced me to both of you. What a true blessing and encouragement to my heart to hear your testimonies, and see Christians with influence embracing the old biblical wisdom! PS, I am listening to both of your bands and loving the artistry of your music!! Thank you for standing firm on the word and blessing the name of Jesus to all of us.
This is best interview Alica has produced. John was very engaging. He comes across as a humble and genuine human being. I hadn't heard of him nor his band previously.
Jesus gave commands. Not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" is going to be judged a "sheep." There will be many "goats" (who think acceding to a creed of "decision salvation" replaces faithfulness demonstrated by following Jesus's commands).
I can't help but think that a lot of people who fall away from the faith, especially celebrities, have actually believed in a false idol and a misrepresentation of the gospel.
Not necessarily. They could just be seeds that fell on bad soil. Or a house built on sand. The moment the flood comes they get swept away into the world.
Thats a good point. And considsring how MILLIONS of people attend each mega church in the USA thats millions and millions of people who were saved by a false gospel and who have never known the truth so of course it will come crashing down. These false preachers have taken over and deceived way too many
@@rachelwitenhafer I do believe in eternal salvation, which means that if you're truly saved then you'll always be saved no matter what. So to be consistent I do believe that you can't lose your salvation by committing any sin or by experiencing loss of your faith. If you can't stay faithful, then God will still remain faithful and he will carry you home. The blood of Christ has paid for all of your sins and Christ will always be your advocate before God, and you are permanently sealed by the Holy Spirit unto salvation. But that's why, when somebody falls away and renounces their faith, it's easier to rationalize it by thinking that they might not have been saved to begin with. How would it be possible to stop believing if the Holy Spirit is in you? But it isn't for anyone to make a final judgment on someone else's salvation.
Makes me think of this CS Lewis gem “We may be sure that the characteristic blindness of the twentieth century - the blindness about which posterity will ask, "But how could they have thought that?" - lies where we have never suspected it... None of us can fully escape this blindness, but we shall certainly increase it, and weaken our guard against it, if we read only modern books. Where they are true they will give us truths which we half knew already. Where they are false they will aggravate the error with which we are already dangerously ill. The only palliative is to keep the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our minds, and this can be done only by reading old books.”
I’m so thankful God led me to ask hard life questions and really seek out answers from my early teen years. Now about 20 years later, I feel like all that struggle pays off, because I have my head in straight and can discern lies from truth.
I feel exactly the same way. I never knew why I had it so hard and everyone else was getting blessed. God had to lead me through some tough things to make me who I am today, by his grace and his grace alone.
Are you saved from your sins? Jesus commanded the apostles after His resurrection, to preach repentance and remission of sins, in His name, beginning at Jerusalem, and to wait for the promise of the Father, in Jerusalem. -Luke 24 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. -- And on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was poured out [Acts 2] And they spake with tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance. And Peter preached the gospel unto them and they were pricked in their hearts, and said, men and brethren what shall we do? And Peter said, Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is how the bible says a man is to be saved. This is why Jesus said, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned -Mark 16 Acts 2: 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Some Christians think that theres no need for personal engagement, cause Jesus IS everything. As for me, starving to death is not my thing. “why settle for what is not bread, for what fails to satisfy” -Isaiah 55
May I suggest reading Francis Schaefer’s book, “How Should We Then Live”, and also his Christian Manifesto. He predicted this would happen in the 1970’s.
This stream is on fire! Here I thought I was alone on seeing these things and speaking up about them. Thank you for sharing and encouraging us lay people to speak up where its necessary.
I can’t even begin to tell you how uplifting this was to me. Thank you for being bold enough to have these conversations. This video was literally a regurgitation of what my husband and I have been discussing the last 12 months. Praying over your ministry as you continue! Please don’t stop 🙏🏻
I didn't recognize Alisa at first but I loved Zoe girl! This was an eye-opening video because I thought we'd lost John and the other members of Skillet to the secular world a long time ago. Very thankful to hear they still hold fast to their faith. Alyssa too 💗💗🙏
I met John in line at 6 flags in Ga. I was a youth pastor at the time (pastor now). John seemed genuinely as happy to meet me as I was to meet him. Love this guy!
I’m grateful for this content! I appreciate the warning for anyone who wants to deconstruct his faith to first make sure he understands the faith as it is explained to us in the scriptures.
Thank you John for boldly sharing the authority of God’s Word. This world needs the truth and Christians to proclaim God’s truth and not be ashamed of the Gospel because it is the power of God to bring salvation to everyone who believes
The church has become so involved in "reaching" out to the lost, that a good portion has cut it's roots. It has become watered down, so focused on integrating into the popular culture and its mantras that it no longer is in this world, but not of it, but rather the opposite: of this world, but not in the Kingdom.
Can I just say that, ironically, my experience with many churches is that most are engaged in the wrong kind of outreach or trying to reach out in the wrong ways. As culture forgets how to have discussion with those it doesn’t agree with, so does the members of the church forget how to listen and discuss with those who don’t share their faith. Outreach isn’t about going out into the world and engaging in the world’s activities. Instead it’s about discussion and standing firm on what you believe when there’s a biblical reason for it. It’s about bringing those genuinely desiring to learn into the church to be surrounded by community and mentors as they learn and grow. One of my experiences that blew my mind was from back when I was in college. We (college students) set up a weekly event on Friday nights for high school and college student where they would come to the church and play good, clean board games, card games, and video games together. We then would discuss and talk about God. We did it for 6 months at one church and brought in about 100 new faces, 30 of which got involved in the regular youth/college group church activities going forward. When we tried to find churches willing to support these activities with any sort of funding, they would never want to be involved anymore. The church leaders never visited the activities going on and often ignored the youth leaders about the positive impact it was having on bringing in youth and teaching college students to be leaders and talk about God. I’ll never forget, one of those very same churches then funded a much more expensive weekly community knitting project hosted outside the church. They were always trying to do the most snazzy thing instead of the things that actually brought new faces, ready to learn about God, into their doors.
@@LaureTheGamer that’s sad to hear. Our church really stresses that faith without works is dead, and that supporting local community efforts (love your neighbor as yourself) are part of who we are as followers of Jesus.
I see the opposite, at least in my town. Some churches are refusing to follow the guidelines amidst this pandemic, like wearing masks. They're trying to "stick it to the government" I guess, despite what the Bible teaches about obeying governing authorities.....And a lot of people who need spiritual growth - like me and my mom - can't go anymore (she has underlying conditions and I feel uncomfortable with it) so we're left at home, as well as many others I assume, because of that.....And some of my fellow Christians are going out maskless, flatout disobeying the rules and making people freak out....As well as other "our way or the highway" scenarios. Church seems like some odd, very closed off community lately.
@@Ampwich I know Jesus said "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" referring to taxes. I think that was about taxes but also that the Church is a place for SPIRITUAL development rather than Worldly concerns. I don't think he meant obey the government blindly but I could be wrong. I'm sorry your church isn't being safe during the pandemic though.
Wow my mom just died from cancer and I found all my hope, strength, and peace in God. He is still good no matter the circumstances. I really enjoyed this podcast. I love Skillet's music by the way.
Thank you! Just seeing you and John united in the faith after all these years is more uplifting and inspiring than any number of "gut punches" of people getting lost along the way! Keep it up, you have no understanding of the scope of the impact you are having in the lives of many, bringing many to God
Not necessarily...we are to witness to the world, and to spread the Gospel. There have been many ages of Christianity after Christ in the world. How do you think we're spreading the Gospel by acting like cult-members? It's no wonder they mock us and call us cultists..
Wow, I loved this broadcast!! I always liked Skillet but I never imagined that John was such a mighty man of God and I can see that it's because of his humble spirit. This was so edifying. God bless your channel and his ministry.
Leitha Grover My first guess is that they were never really Christians to begin with, despite what they say. 1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. I think some people may say a few words, go to church for a while, and think they are Christians.... while others make a pretense of believing but hate God and all who bear his name. These love to see people fall.
They are looking for validation, if they can convince others to agree, they must have been right. Others are testing, "Is this relationship still going to be compatible with my newly espoused worldview?" When the answer is no, they may try to bring you into their new worldview to salvage the relationship.
God delivered me from the homosexual life. I was in it to long and thought it was just great, out meeting people every weekend looking for the right one not realizing the right one was never going to come. Now people tell there sorry for me because I became ashamed of who I was, I am ashamed of it but only because I fell for the lie and deception. Dont let anyone tell you that the homosexual life is ok with God or it's what he made you, that is just satan whispering in your ear lying.
I went through the same, I was bullied in school for being different, now I follow God, and He freed me from the gay lifestyle, now woke people bully me. Bless you brother
@@poetsrear neither I live a life for God. I didn't trade one sin for another so I dont go around scoping out women I just leave everything in his hands. You dont have to be with women to be right just live for God and if he places one in my life yes I'm totally good with that but just living for him is good enough. Its been six years and I can say I will never go back to that life.
I've missed hearing about your band and your faith. I was watching your group and saw you live several times. I was working as a resource officer in the public school system. Your music in the first albums helped me so much in my work and dealing with all of the problems of the day. God allowed me to talk about God, faith, and what I saw as truth. It was amazing doing the work Whew, I'm retired now and don't see anyone doing the work I did or anyone doing the Christian work much at all. God bless you all trying to share the truth. As you are saying, no one reads or knows the bible it seems. I'm 62 and my time has passed working with the youth and it hurts to see everyone so lost. I still pray and read the word and I thank God for folks like you all.
An old hymn goes like this Yesterday, today, forever, Jesus is the same. All may change but Jesus NEVER, glory to His name. Glory to His Name Glory to His Name. All may change but Jesus never, Glory to His Name.
Are you saved from your sins? Jesus commanded the apostles after His resurrection, to preach repentance and remission of sins, in His name, beginning at Jerusalem, and to wait for the promise of the Father, in Jerusalem. -Luke 24 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. -- And on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was poured out [Acts 2] And they spake with tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance. And Peter preached the gospel unto them and they were pricked in their hearts, and said, men and brethren what shall we do? And Peter said, Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is how the bible says a man is to be saved. This is why Jesus said, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned -Mark 16 Acts 2: 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
@@kyleisaacson4852 Well a slave is not a bad thing. Depending on the master.. But in the scripture it says servants obey your masters Colossians 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God; Also a servant can be different than a slave.
Thanks for sharing. My wife and I have been heartbroken watching friends walk away from God in recent years. Along with the Progressive Christianity influence there have been two key things that seem to coincide. Ones that walked away seem to have some deep hurts. They also seem to lack Biblical understanding. This includes friends that have served in the ministry.
It may be the case for some, but it was the opposite for me. I was a Christian who had pretty good knowledge of Christianity and I really believed in it. I started studying apologetics and reading my Bible more, and that led me to disbelieve. Also, I am pretty stable emotionally. No one in the church hurt or do I have resentment. I just dont believe. I know all cases are different, but it was curious to me that what you mentioned is totally untrue in my isolated case.
@@irvingalfaro8735 I am assuming you are at peace with your decision to leave but make sure it isn't a False Peace because understanding God's truth became difficult. Knowledge is important but it is important who you are listening to. It isn't a head trip anyway it is a faith journey. But I know it is tough at times understanding. Christian scandals really hurt like with apologetics teacher Ravi Zacharias who I respected and learned from. Good that he was outed but what a thing. I am solid in my faith so it hurt but wasn't earth shattering as I am sure it was for many.
@irving Alfaro 1john 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
@@lorene5170 that’s a dumb argument if yo don’t believe in the Bible. It’s like if I quote the Quran or any other religious book that goes against Christianity. Quoting the Bible is useless for those who don’t think it’s the ultimate truth.
@irving Alfaro All I did was point out that the Bible says all of the things that are happening today. I’m not arguing anything. My whole point to quoting is that a lot of people fall away because they were never born again to begin with. I’m not saying that happened to you but it’s a possibility. Sorry I offended you.
John Cooper is such an intelligent man. Most people think they've got the answer in a 4 minutes video. I remember several times even in church, I would here so much emphasis on a text that I haven't fully grasped, or it feels like it's being rammed down my throat. So in a moment of discomfort, I would go back and read a few verses or chapter before that verse to get the context of it, and by so doing, I would have better understanding. But the world is so fast paced that Christians don't even want to take their time to study so they can defend what they believe. Because the Bible can be easily misinterpreted by anyone who doesn't take their time to study
So encouraged by y'all's stand for truth. It's a breath of fresh air and I believe it's because it points us to the one who gives us our breath! =D Love it. Thank God for his word.
When I was a little girl and listening to Skillet and Zoegirl (and Alisa’s father Chuck Girard), never did I imagine that later at 28 I’d be listening to you both here 😁 So glad you are doing this!
"Falling away" means people stop being Christian. Progressive Christians are still Christian, just like Quakers, Catholics, and Anglicans are still Christians.
@@justyouraverageyoutubeacco256 True biblical Christianity is not the same as religious Christianity. Religion is nothing but a man-made effort at righteousness and to be born again, a person needs to put their trust in God and in His Son, Jesus of Nazareth. Then He will lead you, if you are willing more and more away from religion and into His own loving care. But He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; nobody comes to the Father except through me."
@@justyouraverageyoutubeacco256 Well, I would be mis-representing myself and the Bible if I claimed it as my opinion. In John 3, the Lord Jesus said that in order to see and in order to enter the Kingdom of God, a person must be born from above. He then spent the rest of His earthly ministry preaching the gospel of the Kingdom and pointing out to the pharisees and religious leaders the error in their effort to try to establish religious rules and regulations. It would be too much to try to put it all here, but I think if you read the gospel of John and the gospel of Matthew, you will see it yourself. But then the books of Acts and Romans in the Bible offer further insight and clarification to what we saw take place in the gospels. Especially Romans 1-4 show that any righteousness that is established by the law is no righteousness at all. In fact, it says that true righteousness on our part before God can only come through faith in Christ and it's by His "one act of righteousness" that our lives will be preserved when we stand before God in judgement and will have NOTHING to do with our good and evil deeds. (Note: I'm not saying that our good and evil deeds don't matter, but that's a very different and very long discussion.) Religion is about our righteous acts. True Biblical Christianity is founded upon His One Righteous Act.
Thank you John for being a man. A man of integrity and wisdom. A strong man of God who is not afraid to stand up for God with love, passion and valor. May God greatly bless you!!🕊🙏
Found out about your story and your book, “Another gospel” on Cross Examined. And now having Skillet lead singer on with his story is awesome. I am so glad there are heroes of the faith anchoring into Jesus and emphatic truth. Thank you for presenting what God has called you to share.
Great interview! Love Skillet. I used to play Skillet CD's for my fifth graders during math. I heard a song in a restaurant on their playlist a couple of days ago and still love their music! Thanks for speaking out the truth. Jesus reigns!
@@harrysphincter6496 I didn’t mean to offend you in anyway, by wholesome I mean e.g. things like animal or cute content, but reading my Bible is more wholesome than anything . Pls Don’t be offended 😄👍
@@melindaroop1346 How do you know that they aren't thinking for themselves? It sounds like you're just assuming that ignorant because they are Christians with a different perspective than you.
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I grew up as an atheist I was a flyleaf fan I didn't know that they were a Christian and when I was a teenager strung out on drugs and in 2012 I got backstage passes to meet the band and Lacy Sturm led me to Christ.
amen
Fantastic 👍👍👍
That's awesome!
That’s so awesome! Glad to have you in the family.
WHOA. Never heard a story like that before. I always knew Lacy was the real deal.
Just like John Cooper, my mum also had cancer. While I was lost in drinking and drugs and wild teenager. The night I got baptized, my mums best friend told me, "all your mum ever wanted was to see you saved... At a meeting a pastor asked anybody looking prayer for healing to come forward, when my mum and her friend got to the stage, she said 'I don't want prayer for myself, I want you to pray that my son will get saved'. And I did 15 years later. I will see her in heaven 👑🙌
Amen brother.....
That brought tears to my eyes. A mother's love is the strongest love in the world next to Christ's love. She wanted to see you throughout eternity. ❤️
"Anybody looking prayer " makes about as much sense as the bullshit in the Bible !
Congratulations, that was the best thing your mom ever gave you.
@@88Nikoli someone's under conviction
I used to work at a Bible College in So. Cal., where they would have free concerts for the public during the summer. Almost all the bands that would play had contract riders that included weird or sometimes even crazy requirements for them to play. Some were long lists of foods, requests for no employees to approach the band, a particular brand of expensive bottled water, etc.. Skillet & Christafari were by far the easiest bands to work with. Skillet said they could just eat whatever the students eat in the cafeteria, and wanted zero special attention. And they were super humble down to earth. They have had a special spot in my heart ever since.
How was Christafari?
@@raidrfrk we did an evangelistic concert outreach in Mexicali with them. We had dozens of Bible College students that were sleeping on the cement floor of a church with just blankets and sleeping bags. When the van driver picked them up at the airport he asked them if they wanted to go straight to the hotel. Mark, the lead singer told him they would sleep where the students were. The ladies in the band stayed in the pastor's house. But Mark wanted no special treatment. They were VERY down to earth and loved hangin out with the students. Mark even let one of the students go up on stage during the outreach and belt out some rap. Awesome experience.
The weird contract rider thing had its genesis in stage safety. If you don't have a wine-glass filled with brown MnM's in your dressing room, per the contract, you can't trust the overhead rigging not to fall on your band in the middle of a show, also per the contract.
@@Sledg0matic LOL! You mean it wasn't the princesses demanding french bottled water and strawberry starbursts?
@@markothesharko Sure enough, there's plenty of those as well.
A Pastor here, thank you both so much for standing up for Jesus and for truth. So many of us feel so localized with our voice that the message is not getting out. You are helping to amplify the message of Jesus and I support you fully and am right there with you
I feel that one of the reasons Christians 'lost credibility' is even more basic -- Loss of belief in Creation. The Bible correlates purity with recognizing God as Creator. If we dont take the creation account seriously we lose the story of Adam and Eve, We lose original sin. And which parts of the Bible do we keep or set aside? If we write off creation, it makes perfect sense to set aside theology of suffering and hell too, because they are even harder to explain. According to a study by Ken Ham 'Already Compromised', In Christian Colleges and Universities -science majors are more likely to believe in a young earth than religion majors! This is because Christians who are science majors realize how Weak the theory of evolution is. Maybe if we address this foundation, which is cracked and falling apart will have more of an effect than we realize. God bless you
@@micheleh5269 well then why hasn't creation been shown to be true? After all it's been thousands of years and still nothing. Meanwhile in 500 years science has brought mankind countless discoveries. Currently at more than one per day.
@@harrysphincter6496 I love science and glad for new inventions. Inventors and scientists have often believed in creation. According to evolutionists the last couple of major steps in man evolving from ape happened over the last 4 million years. But there were not that many hominids. Here is a quote from Wikipedia on Prehistoric Demography (linked below): "A total of 2 billion to 20 billion hominids that lived during that approximately 4,000,000-year time span.[11]" We currently have 7.8 billion on the earth today. During those 4 million years it would have taken decades to produce 100,000 births. But we have 100,000 people being born every single day now. Yet instead of genetic mutations leading in positive directions we usually see very negative outcomes. We are involved in the special needs community - and several have a 'genetic defect'. And these defects can be something as simple as getting 2 copy of mom's instead of 1 mom and 1 dad in a certain position on a certain chromosome. The results from what seems like a minor mutation can actually affect several parts of a person and on ability to walk, speak, learn, vision...parents of children with genetic defects think evolution is very unlikely. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_demography#:~:text=Prehistoric%20demography%2C%20paleodemography%20or%20archaeological,and%20hominid%20demography%20in%20prehistory.
@@micheleh5269 " I love science.. " and then make a feeble attempt at misrepresenting it.
Cite the source of your claim that negative outcomes exceed beneficial. How exactly would a random mutation choose?
@@micheleh5269 what exactly is an Evolutionist? Evolution is a field of science and NOT a belief system. Ironically a belief system trying to claim verifiable evidence as a belief while using belief. Are you really that ignorant or that indoctrinated
like "stop making stupid people famous", we need to stop making lukewarm people leaders
Amen. Billy Graham and John Cooper let Christ work a lot through them and help them be famous. I love their preaching
truth
You got a problem with WAP?
@@ryanforbes8775 And you don't?
@@cameraredeye3115 well I think it's trash and leading a generation of adolescent people down a path of disparity and pain. But no to each their own.
Imagine what kind of a world we are living in, that a hard rock star is more rooted in the Word than woke pastors 🤷🏾♂️
Seminaries are largely to blame. You will hear positive teaching regarding Liberation Theology before you will hear any serious consideration of Biblical justice.
You took my words, Sam!
Jesus was woke
@@IAmisMaster but biblical justice and Liberation theology are the same thing?
@SwiftJustice2020 Google the definition of woke and read the gospels in context and you will see that Jesus was probably the most woke person in history
What an encouragement as a mom that John's mother had such a spiritual impact on him.
I thought the same thing. My son has only known Christ and at 5.5 he's a stronger Christian than some adult believers I know.
@@karaa7595 my 5 year old daughter is the same. What an absolute blessing. She always shares her faith and reaches people I never could. Each time we go grocery shopping or into the world we do it as a team and what a beautiful thing that is. Peace and grace to you and yours. Keep shining and enduring. ❤️ 🕊
Which church did he say he went to again?
Amen
Be humble and continue to pray over your sons and daughters. Early acceptance of Christ as redeemer and savior is no guarantee of lifelong walking with and in the Spirit. We do have a HUGE Impact on our children. But there are no guarantees
"It's time to make pastors uncool again."
Uncool as far as what the world thinks cool is.
Yess
Agreed
Huh 🤷♂️? They’re already pretty “uncool.” If being “uncool” means they create more atheists with the anti science and homophobic propaganda, then sign me up 👍.
Good one.
I used to volunteer at Cornerstone festival. I gave artists rides to the grounds. Of all the artists I met this man was the most "real". When I picked him up he hoped in the front seat and spoke to me. All the others rode in the back and I was basically just a driver to them. He's the real deal.
I miss Cornerstone Festival.
My former youth pastor said he saw John Cooper at a gas station years ago. He walked up to John and said, "You ever heard of a band called Skillet?"
John replied with, "Nah, they suck."
He apparently then stuck around for a while just talking with my youth pastor. I never forgot that story.
It’s the small things and the small moments in life that make a difference for eternity. One doesn’t have to become a mega church preacher in order to store up vast treasures in heaven.
They were the ones who thought more of themselves than they ought think.
Explain why he did a weird demonic body shake on stage during his concert? That threw me off
Never listened to Skillet back in the day, but John Cooper is a rock star for standing up for truth. Appreciate you speaking out, keep fighting for the faith.
@Brazilian Goddess what
I listened to them a lot in my teen years and respected them from coming from Memphis lol
@Brazilian Goddess love them 💕
As an individual with an Eastern Orthodox mindset, I have had a lot of struggle showing respect to non-denominational Christians. After encountering your channel I have realized how loveless I have been towards many Christians lately. You personally have helped me overcome this hesitation I have to share my love of Christ with those that don't fully theologically align with myself. You are so wise and have exemplified in my mind a quote from St. Nektarios..."Love should never be sacrificed for the sake of dogmatic differences".
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
God bless you always
Amen, God bless and keep us always!
So good to read your words!
Agape means relationship.. Practically :) knowing one another.
I grew up Roman Catholic and now I'm just simply a follower of Christ.
It’s a process for a lot of us.
He stopped a show to tell my daughter Happy Birthday on her 13th birthday. He walked over after his 2nd song to walk over and ask her her name and how old she was. A girl told her to yell that it was her birthday to him backstage and she did. He smiled and waved, then he came over during the show to talk to her. She was in tears. She's such a big fan
I attended a mega church for a few months. The pastor declared on New Years he wanted 100k followers on his Instagram by the end of the year. I found that troubling
Lol, that's funny
I would say goodbye to the church forever.
It's important to read the Word and trust in the Lord and not in men. He said it out loud... how many are hiding that desire? But God has a remnant and we can be included in that remnant as we walk by faith.
Gross
What I found troubling is you attend a mega church service, they’re all in a satanic cult organization.
@@kingchris1353 you can't say that because a church is large, that it's satanic. There is truth out there. I would agree that it seems to be looking like the prosperity gospel (which is fake) seems to be attracting huge congregations and seems to be the new and popular norm. I just left a huge church that I learned much from, but they started to get into "racial reconciliation" under the guise of "white people are all, racist."
This blessed me! I too am confused as to why people are so silent about Gods righteousness. I’m praying that God will give me wisdom as I study and a holy boldness.
I'm praying for your boldness, Whittney! You have it in you to spread the truth in the way that God ordained you to. Can you imagine all the people you could influence with the truth just by speaking it?!! Go get um!!❤
Because we are the next generation that needs to carry on with the good news.
Because there is a demonic stronghold in the culture silencing them and they are caving in for various reasons...fear of man, love of the world, etc...
I was held by the deep state aka Illuminati aka New World Order for 8yrs 3mo. and 11 days. We had a planned front row seat to 911! Start with Part 1 Meeting Jesus while working for the Illuminati. I made a series of short videos to tell my story as it it very deep stuff and includes Obama wearing a talisman around his neck at the age of 8. That same talisman aka Baal figure was found at the dig sight in Israel I went to in 2000. A town condemned for lack of faith by Jesus Christ! My story connects Nostradamus to Obama and my old boss who is a 3rd Order Jesuit who had worked for NASA and who also did a conference paper on automated air traffic control in conjunction with NATO 10 years prior to 911. ruclips.net/video/fBfrWaeAYPo/видео.html
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 I see that 100%
This was an encouragement. What a day when a rock star and pop singer are more biblically grounded than half the churches out there...
Yes!
Funny thing is that when i was younger people in my family and church would said this same things about skillet's music, that is not really christian music, it is satanic music trying to confuse young people and all of that stuff haha
That should be disturbing you. What do you think God will do to you? I'm worried about what God will do to me.
@@danielwilliams693 actually you would be surprised that they are christian rock which i was allowed to listen so I listened to creed and skillet when I was in my youth.
I was also allowed to listen to classic rock but that was because my uncle was a Christian himself and he was in a metal band himself.
You can consider my situation lucky or privileged when it came to music because I came from a family that just loved music.
@@svenred6eard757 woah guys, I found the classic atheist straw man in a RUclips comment section devoid of any and all historical context or true meaning.
We can't stop proclaiming Christ, just because the world tells us to.
PRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!
How about the other 41 million fictional characters of mythology?
@@harrysphincter6496 Harry believes the Easter Bunny, evolution, and in the universe popping into existence uncaused. He also believes in the ancient mythological idea of animals coming from one another. It's where Darwin borrowed his idea.
You also shouldn't proclaim christ because someone tells you to.
@@TMPreRaff that's hypocrisy... it's y atheists believe in atheism. Someone told them a regurgitated ancient tale of humanism where animals magically change to other animals because someone told them to
"If you're not WILLING to draw up your sword, then I'll have to draw mine." I just love that quote. It's so relevant in today's world as much as it has always been. Good chats, I appreciate you both.
Attention pastors! James 4:4 "Friendship with the World is Enmity with God!"
@Sabbath 7th dayBelieving in false prophetess Ellen White over the Word of God is idolatry. Living in the law instead of Grace denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Nonsda.org
@Sabbath 7th day learn some church history. Even the first apostles already started coming together on the sunday. The sunday was always a special day for the first christians. Its was a celebration day becayse it was Christ's resurrection. Also the gentiles had slaves. It would be impossible for the slaves to not work on the sabbath day. God knew this and his holy spirit lead paul and the first christians to know this
@@CarnivoreChristian777I agree EGW had problems, many problems. Does being wrong about some things mean that you are wrong about everything?
@@menknurlan How do you view the 10 Commandments, are they to be observed and if so how do you personally observe the Sabbath?
That's right a friend to the world is an enemy to God and they chose the world and the things of this world over Christ and I pity them.
This woman is on-point and solid, and this musician is equally eloquent. What a blessing.
She’s awesome!🙏
"This women" 😆... Your'e in her channel Man lol... Alisa is her name.
They totally are...to hear them talking about truth... It was a breath of fresh air listening to them
The guy is speaking with a christmas tree behind his back (prohibited as a pagan practice in Jeremiah) then they r discussing whats wrong with christianity today..they drifted away from "you the only true God" (Jésus speaking about God) ""I go to my God n your God" drifted away from the chama to the trinity drifted away from accepting the next prophet in Isiah 42 (mountain sala is in todays saudi arabia, n kedar is the arab ancestor of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) drifted away from the Real teaching of Jesus Christ peace be upon him to the teaching of corrupt church injected under the cover of unknown Writers John Matthew..dont blame The Quran for debunking those Who falsified the true message of Jesus Christ peace be upon him.
@@mbarnabeus Hello brother, the scripture verse in Jeremiah is not talking about Christmas trees lol. Ps. it isn't talking talking about trees at all. You took one sentence and ripped it out of the passage that surrounds it. Yes that one single sentence is about a tree, but the verses before are very important to understanding that verse, and the verses IMMEDIATELY AFTER are even MORE important to understanding that verse. We cannot rip sentences out the Bible and make them say what we want. There are 3 rules to proper Biblical exegesis: 1. Context 2. Context 3. Context.
Read 10 sentences before and 10 sentences after and it will be crystal clear it is talking about cutting down the tree, getting a master craftsman who will carve and shape it (who does that for a Christmas tree anyway? Your argument falls apart right there). Then they will paint it with silver and gold....and it is talking about carving IDOLS! and then the flowing verses talk about those idols that were just carved. It is extremely clear if you read it in context
You do know that "verses" are not divinely inspired like the rest of the Bible. The "chapter and verse numbers" were added in centuries later. They were added in so that we could easily and quickly reference the scripture when studying and talking about it to others (this should be common knowlege). The original books - eg. Genesis, Jeremiah, Matthew etc etc - are actually books unto themselves. The Bible is made up of 66 different books. This is vitally important! When you read a book - even textbooks- do you read it sentence by sentence and then derive your meaning on a standalone basis. Of course not! The meaning of each sentence in any book is based on the CONTEXT of the story - especially what comes directly before and after. So we can't just pull a single sentence and make up a meaning for it - especially when the meaning is given directly after that sentence.
So if you read the paragraph before and after that verse you will clearly see that it is talking about making idols out of wood. Once you cut the tree down it says they get a master craftsman and he carves it and covers it in silver and gold (exactly like the idols the other nations were making)
We also understand scripture in context of the rest of scripture. and the "paint them silver and gold" is found in another place in the Bible (the verses are clearly referencing eachother) and that other verse is ALSO talking about idols. It's as if they were interpreting eachother (how about that!)
And then the sentence right after that (amd before that) it talks about worshipping the idols that were made out of that tree. It is describing idols it is so clear but you have to read it IN CONTEXT.
I really needed this , I’ve found it so difficult to live in this world. This gave me courage to realize I am not supposed to be comfortable here. Our culture does not often allow messages like this to get out. I thank you both so much for this episode
"the devil makes lies sound so much like the truth". Amen. This was a great interview.
It's like bizzle said, study the lie and they can make new lies up, study the truth and you'll know when the lie comes.
And we all know the only truth is the Bible. Study it, know the lies when you see them. Wokeness is strictly anti Christian. Christianity is about personal responsibility and wokeness and socialist communism is about it's everyone else's fault whatever happens to you. There is only one justice, social justice is a mockery of Christianity.
I love that
"If you are not willing to take up your sword,
then I'll have to draw mine."
-John Cooper
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matt 25:52
@@redimi24jc Thank you for your response, however, that is a different kind of sword :D.
You mean a physical sword,
John Cooper means the sword of the word of God (part of the armor of God), as described in Ephesians 6:13-17.
I hope this makes things clearer 👍
Ah,, but Jesus said he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
@@amberslahlize7961 Yes, but in that moment he was talking about a literal sword :D, in the context of physically hurting/ attacking others.
Jesus also said:
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." -Matthew 10:34
And later in Ephesians 6:13-17 we are told, to put on the armor of God, which also contains the sword of the Word of God.
This sword of the Word of God is what John Cooper is talking about, and which all Christians should have and if necessary use.
I hope this was helpful 👍
@@chessversarius2253
We live by the spiritual sword. The Word of God, and we will die by the s(Word). God bless you my friend
Listening to you two talk has helped me realize that I haven’t been on the right path for the last while of my life. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for that. This has really helped me a ton✊🙏
The Lord rebukes those that He loves. May He establish your steps, and mine as well, back to His way.
What a marvelous conversation. As a Christian homeschool mom of 3 now-teen-aged sons, it's so encouraging to hear testimonies of a mom's influence reading the Bible to her kids. God's Word truly does not return void! I'll be watching this one again with them. 💗📖🤗
The Bible is a lamp to my feet. I did not like reading the Bible, then I asked God to give me a hunger for it! I would say that I average 5 to 10 hours per day listening to the Bible.
If you are spiritually weak, ask God to give you a desire for His Word. Jesus said, "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness." He is the light of the world!
Have you gotten to the part where the Bible condones the owning and beating of people as property and the killing of homosexuals?
@@kyleisaacson4852 Obviously he hasn't then. Even if he is just a NT reader, there's still plenty in there god can give him a hunger for. Such as: Killing trees because they are out of fruit bearing season; drowning innocent pigs; ordering us to obey our slave masters; giving up on our families to follow a cult leader; magic spells like 'walk on water' , 'create food' and 'resurrect'; or the mushroom trip ending. Plenty to go on!
@@kyleisaacson4852 I haven't heard about that why don't you elaborate?
@@Drockninja75 Exodus 21 and 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10
@@Drockninja75 And regarding the killing of homosexuals- Leviticus 20:13
I was at an extreme low in my life. I was not suicidal BUT I had my toes hanging over the cliff. I felt hopeless, no joy...and in my desperation, I called out to Jesus. The restoration in my life is amazing. I am now married to my 1st boyfriend. We have a very happy life. He will restore the years the locust stole. Thank You Jesus!!!
Amen 👑
One must never tolerate evil. For first, evil is tolerated; then embraced, then hailed as being good-then it becomes unlawful to do what is actually good.
Good observation!
Only a fool would go along with these evil mask mandates. This is not about a virus! Wearing a mask is dirty and it spreads more disease than it prevents mainly because people don't know how to use them properly. For someone with discernment the masks appear evil and we should have nothing to do with even the appearance of evil. First the masks were tolerated, then embraced, then hailed as being good, and soon it will be unlawful to go anywhere without a mask. Don't be a fool! Take off the masks!!!
Sounds like America today.
1st generation allows
2nd generation accepts
3rd generation promotes
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” Burke
“Science is going to change what celebrities tell you is going to change But the Word of God will never change.” 🔥🔥🔥
I hope you go back to school and start learning everything including physics and mathematics from the basic.
Science doesnt tell you anything. it just is, it doesnt speak and it doesnt order. The word of God changes. in the old testament it was just one god and now its three in one? Slavery was permitted in the old testament and now it isnt. eating pork wasnt allowed, now it is. Death for working on the sabath, now no penalty. Homosexuals used to be prohibited in churches, in the future, they will be pastors in churches. The old and new testament change so much that its just two different gods. But I dont blame God if he does exist. Chrsitianity and Islam are just man made religions.
hilariously, science has changed its mind about "scientific facts" about 15 times since you wrote this comment.
@@andrewperkins9346 He's not talking about true science, but the fake science being pushed by the Left everywhere you look. Even a lot of the "scientists" today contradict proved science as they force in their political agendas to try and pollute the results of studies and basic common sense.
@@irvingalfaro8735 Boy are you confused! Go and study the Bible with proper Hermeneutics and stop trying to eisegete the Word of God. Islam and Christianity are as alike as feces and Filet Mignon are.
Skillet's music had gotten me through some very hard times growing up. Suicidal, miserable and self harm. "Last Night" and "Whispers in the Dark" kept me going. Reminded me constantly that God had me and would always be here for me.
"Subtract Jesus, and money and influence will be YOURS!!" That struck me as a real, satanic "temptation in the desert" moment. The parallel is chilling.
Yes!
Same here!
Exactly what I thought of that story. Chilling indeed.
@Tribulation Saints Europe Yes, I've viewed those presentations.
Same!
That was wonderful, now I don’t feel alone, thinking all my Christian friends and pastors where going over the cliff. I feel I can speak more boldly in the truth even when it’s not popular anymore. 🙌🏼🔥🙌🏼
All because these people were willing to speak the truth. You can be that truth speaker for someone in your life. You can stand up and gice someone else that courage too.
Ditto!
I’ve stood up and spoken the truth and I’m judged. Hopefully this will be a better way for me to say it to speak the truth
I grew up as a young Christian on Skillet’s music. We even covered their song around once or twice. I’m happy that they have grown even stronger in their faith.
It's really nice to see him standing by the truth and not wavering.
I became a Christian in 1991. I served in music ministry until 2016. Now I can't find a church that doesn't make me cringe. I think we are still supposed to be Christians and find our ministry and fellowship outside the walls of a church. Thank you for confirming that I'm not crazy. The culture has been given over to their own devices. We are living in a post Christian world, but there are still opportunities to serve God for those who don't seek the spotlight.
@@johntorres6566 leaving the church is not the same as leaving a church or leaving Jesus. I'm still looking for fellowship in the Church and with the Lord personally.
It's so hard to find a church that isn't too cringe or isn't too cultural. But it's worth the time investment because it's exhausting to not have a safe space (if you'll pardon the term) to be fed and poured into, recharge for the daily grind. The church isn't supposed to be the outsourcing of evangelism it's supposed to be the training grounds to equip believers to go out and evangelize and minister.
It took my husband and I a few years to find a new church when we moved, but it was so worth it. I'm serving on the worship team now and feel even more peace and confirmation it's where God wants us. We've made some irreplaceable friendships here and been blessed by solid sermons and down to earth people who genuinely care. I realize your comment is a couple years old but I hope and pray you've been able to find a church like that and enjoy the blessings and resources it provides. And remember, we're all a part of the one true church, Jesus's adopted family. ☺️💖
Skillet is the band that is unparalleled in both bolstering me and tearing me down. No other music I have heard disarms me, lays me raw, and builds me up as much as theirs. It is so wonderful to hear how grounded John is. "Read a book!" No kidding! "Read the old dead guys!" Yes! I was raised on Miles Stanford, Ruth Paxon, and J.B. Stoney. Thanks for having this interview, and thank you, John, for being real and being out there. Love to the band!
I accepted Christ in 2012, the year that you said things started getting relative in American Christianity. It’s encouraging because 2012 is when I heard the clear Gospel, not sugarcoated or watered down. Sometimes I feel like the one of the only young, newlywed women who submits to the Word of God. Thank you for standing up for Truth
Right there with you Cara!!!!
I absolutely love John Cooper and Skillet. It’s great to see a local guy (Memphis, TN) make such an impact for sound theological thinking. This Northeast Arkansas gal is so proud!!! Kudos
It’s time to make ourselves simple and make God elevated! When we make ourselves popular , then God has to standby until we get done showing off.
As a 62 year old man, stuck on old blues tunes, I may just go out and get some Skillet! You rock dude!
Just please pray and research first. It doesn't take too much discernment, about 5 minutes. We are all sinners saved by grace, but conversely you will know them by their fruits.
I hope you like their stuff, Skillet is one of my favorite bands, and hearing Cooper speaking out as he has been had only encouraged me more to support them. He has been speaking out against the watered down truth of Scripture! Unleashed is a solid and my favorite album, Comatose was my first album I heard by them.
They were my jam,in the 90's.
Good for you, Brother.
@@gaylechristensen6285 Looks like good fruit.
Maybe you should listen to them, too.
@@chivalrousjack I have. I'm glad you enjoy them. Blessings!.
I was in a band called Zoa back in the mid 90’s and we were playing a festival with Rez Band when Sparrow records came out to see us! They said we sounded great but we need to rethink using the J-word so much in our music, because they were looking for crossover potential. We said absolutely not! Jesus got us to where we are and we’re not going to deny Him in our music! Needless to say! They didn’t pick us up! Glad you stood up to the very tempting offer!! Blessings to you both!
Where can I find yalls music?? I’d love to listen
@@glitchfaith0076 look for the band Zoa and the cd “The Storm” or “Vexed” our two studio recordings. There are a few other bands named Zoa but if you search with the CDs name you should find us. I also have some videos of our reunion we had in 2009 on my RUclips site ... they aren’t the best quality lighting wise but the audio is ok! When you don’t have a label backing you make due with what you’ve got! Thank you so much for your interest
Do you mean Zao?
@@spottedsaint957 no Zao was a Christian core band we were Zoa a Christian rock band. The word Zoa was from the Greek and was used to describe the 4 living creatures that stood before the throne of God in the book of Revelation
@@Matzoa07 that's cool. My dad was in a small rock band in his youth before he was saved. After that he always wanted to start something or do praise and worship at his church but never really got the chance sadly.
“Tell me what the world is saying today, and I’ll tell you what the church will be saying in seven years.”- Francis Schaeffer
WOW!
You really know your old theologians. I haven't seen a Francis schaeffer quote in years on one of these comment sections.
I've watched his two major series and listen to a few of his old audio recordings from lectures in the 70s.
Have you ever heard of Jonathan Edwards? That guy was fire! got sinners so offended at him that he had to preach on his father's grave to keep them from killing him once.
he was "way" ahead of his time, and he's completely right in what he says here...
Yep!
@Quinton Saxby Yes there is a GOD!!
“This is what the Lord says:
“Stand at the crossroads and look;
ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
and you will find rest for your souls.
But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’
I appointed watchmen over you and said,
‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’
But you said, ‘We will not listen.’
Therefore hear, you nations;
you who are witnesses,
observe what will happen to them.
Hear, you earth:
I am bringing disaster on this people,
the fruit of their schemes,
because they have not listened to my words
and have rejected my law.”
Jeremiah 6:16-19
Amen. Jeremiah is greatly for this time, but the whole Bible shows us the way, if we read it.
Excellent! Read Isaiah 5:20: calling evil good...and good evil!
@@redhedhik-chik2510 - yes indeed. That’s definitely happening today as good is being called evil, and evil is being called good.
“The wicked freely strut about when what is vile... is being honored among men”
Awesome reference!!
Thank you for the scripture!!!
Something I was noticing is a lot of people say "Well, that's my truth." .... but... is it THE Truth? Judges says the people fell away from God and began to do right in their own eyes. Which is exactly what the My Truth movement is .
God is the definition of truth, anything outside of God is a lie.
Whenever I hear people claim to have their own truths I'm reminded that Satan has his own "truth" also & he is a VERY GOOD liar.
@@phairplaigh amen!
Isn't that an Oprah-ism??
If -The Truth- is determined by words from a book(or The Book) then how will Christ respond when he returns? Will he not treat us like the Scribes?
@@Iranianjunkie I'm confused by your question. Would you mind elaborating?
This blessed me so much! I’ve always been a fan of Skillet and now I know why. He’s all in with God. Love it!
Me too, I also love their music.
This is a BIG one!!!
We need to see God as *revealed in the Bible* , not as we believe him in our minds, or in our Christian culture. 😊🙏👆🏼🔥
Amen, the name of Jesus is used across the board in the name of their agenda, their doctrine, their philosophy, their progressivism, their spirituality, and their other gods beliefs add Jesus the prophet not Jesus The Savior God's Holy Son! 😔👍🙏🙏
Your statement is correct.
Everybody needs to know this!
The whole world is drunk on the doctrines of Babylon.
INCLUDING and ESPECIALLY the visible Christian church!
PLEASE if you can sense the deadness of the institutional churches and different ministries but can't put your finger on it. I'm pleading with you to understand something very important here. The mainstream Christian system is not of God.
Rev 17:5 - "Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots, And Abominations Of The Earth."
Mystery Babylon The Great is the Vatican - “And the woman which thou sawest, is that great Citie which reigneth ouer the kings of the earth.” - Rev 17:18
And she has harlot daughters which represent the protestant church world.
And “the Abominations Of The Earth” are corrupt scriptures.
And the final bible that will unite all faiths is called Wormwood/the Abomination of desolation. cvillebiblebaptist.com/AdultEducation/Vatican%20and%20United%20Nations%20Bible.pdf
And Jesus Christ is calling His people out.
Rev 18:4
“And I heard another voice from heauen, saying, Come out of her, my people, that yee be not partakers of her sinnes, and that yee receiue not of her plagues:”
The most important thing to understand is that GOD CAN BE TRUSTED to preserve His word for every generation forever as He promises us in Psalms 12:6-7 and you do not need men to teach you.
1 John 2:27
“But the anointing which ye haue receiued of him, abideth in you: and yee need not that any man teach you: But, as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is trueth, and is no lye: and euen as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”
It’s vital to know, especially right now, that God has kept His word in tact.
There is still an every word testimony with us!
The following clip by Reg Block is what the Lord used to open my eyes to the truth of Gods promises in Mark 13:31, Psalm 12:6-7, Psalms 138:2, and Matt 4:4 and so on.
It’s not more lifeless information. It is powerful and life changing and I’m grateful for it! ruclips.net/video/tAMOquyQu-8/видео.html
The next video is a lesson by John Doerr on the pure word of God in the English language, which is found in the av1611 kjv. This is a much different testimony than the King James bible you are able to easily find in the churches and the so called "Christian bookstores". Please pray and genuinely take this before the Lord. He will show you. (Prepare to be attacked once you start down this path) The devil and his ministers don’t want this going out.
ruclips.net/video/C9lIWdQ0rc0/видео.html
I prayed a long time to know what the truth was, because over the years I grew increasingly confused, frustrated, misguided and so on.. But like most of us, I kept returning to church Sunday after next hoping something would change. If I sang more, prayed harder, got more involved, etc, ...maybe something would give. But nothing ever did. I must have walked a thousand isles. It had gotten to a point where a friend at the time said, “just try and sing". He meant well, but it was always disingenuous so I never did. Long story short - my whole Christian life was that way until recently. (powerless) God has since saved me through genuine faith alone in Jesus Christ and now my labouring has finally ceased and I share in the Lords light burden and easy yoke. I’m born again of the Spirit.
I really hope this reaches somebody. If this is you... honestly, please look into what I’m saying. God is rich in mercy and His patience is unmatched. He's been drawing me for a long time. Maybe He’s drawing you too and this is the message you needed.
There is still hope.
This link is a series of interviews between Reg Block and John Doerr that go in depth regarding Johns trip to England for the purposes of co-producing three films: A lamp in the dark, Tares among the wheat and A bridge to babylon.
The three films (free to watch), cover the history of the bible. More specifically the preservation of Gods word and the measures that have been taken to cast doubt on, and ultimately destroy it.
(it's a treasure of information for the Saints) - find the first interview to start on.
ruclips.net/channel/UCIfGUbjTsGu1dfoNqYUZzmgvideos
here is one very final clip on the "servants of Lucifer"
ruclips.net/video/DuVTlYYos0c/видео.html
"(if it were possible,) they shall deceiue the very elect.”
It’s imperative to understand that the av1611 is much different than the 1769 KJV that most believe is the true 1611 but is not. The KJV only movement doesn’t use the authorized version of 1611 either.
This is the bible that Rome has been trying to destroy and cast doubt on since its inception. Everything, from the gun powder plot to false rumours of King James being gay. It contains all the prophecies in tact. Things like, what is the mark of the beast, what is wormwood, who and what is Antichrist, who are Leviathan and Behemoth representations of, and so on.
If the scriptures are broken, the prophets are killed and the church can’t hear what the Spirit is saying.
freely ye haue receiued, freely giue.”
Matt 10:8
@@underwaves75 Do you know who Melissa Daugherty is? I follow her here on u-tube. She loves God's word and shares pretty straight forward videos. Love to see the younger generation rightly dividing the truth these days!! 👍😉🙏
These heavy metal dudes in the Church are as troubling for me. The music is very dark, not to mention the look of them.
@LION OF FIRE - Christian Channel Amen!
My God, its sooo refreshing to hear this. I agree and feel like too many so called "believers" are not standing up for righteousness. Too scared to be persecuted. They'd rather be accepted by all and deny Jesus. God is not a weak, passive God, he's Almighty! Time for us to stand up and not be ashamed of the gospel! Bless you all! Lets Go!!!
It is not that simple jesus died as an enemy of the state not the son of god simply saying a name is not standing for anything the church became so corrupt that the name jesus has become synonyms with ppl be turned away from God I don't need to say the word jesus to lead people to God I've never even read the Bible but some fuckin how I ended up living the God damn thing and I'm not a christian I've literally been to heaven with dozens of others and it was damn empty no humans around only God and the throngs were there to great us I had to choose from finally being safe after years of torment and waging war because my actions as a child led to me being forsaken as a child I tried to kill God because there was a war to be fought and I was the only won that made it to the battlefield at 12 years old I took a stand to try a protect what I chershed and your ppl think you know what a real man is when you got children out here fighting your battles for you and God was the only thing around and he would not help I didn't understand why he wouldn't help so I attacked him and to be clear here the same power thats in God is in all of us the only thing that separates God from man is God can choose weather or not it exists God is Creation we are a product of creation I was gonna hit him and he was gonna feel it make that clear the only thing that stoped me was when I got close enough to look in his eyes I saw the pain in them was no different then mine and he wanted me to do it...... I can't do this anymore you guys man I can't believe how far down we are
I found God clutching a razor blade he said look at the fuckin mess they made they would trade they're hearts if it were made of gold but they are as worthless as the souls they sold
It's not that they're scared, it's that they disagree with you.
@@shawnskeard2054 Thank God He isn't like that at all... hopefully one day before you die you see the true God.
“We need to go back to old wisdom.” One of my big concerns for years is that the older generation is being replaced with the young. There is so much knowledge and wisdom in the older generation! When I moved to a near area several years ago I looked for a church with a pastor and staff that was not just young people. There were only a few... Such a shame to see the Body of Christ push out the old for the new. We don’t need young “hip” pastors, we need those who have been in the fight for a long time and have a wealth of help to pass along! I am certainly not against raising up the young to serve, we should, but we can’t just eliminate the old warriors!!!
I wonder if that’s a regional thing or a denominational thing or a urban/rural thing. The average age of most of the churches I have attended (both United Methodist and Southern Baptist) is probably in the late 70s. I think the current average age of attendees at the church I grew up in is in the 80s. My current church family has a pretty good mix of young families and elders but I bet the average age of attendance is 60 something. But these are all small churches in rural areas...
I think you can blame "Sunday School" and "Youth Ministry" etc which kept the young people from mingling with the older people and made sure they never actually joined "the church." Their egos were stroked. They were entertained "in Jesus name." The closest thing to "Christianity" most of these people heard was at best "moralistic therapeutic deism." They've now hijacked the Christian label.
The older generation let us down with their hypocrisy but sure blame all on the younger generation
@@glorfindelchocolateflowery6392 You need to reread my comment, particularly my last sentence.... There was no blaming anyone in my comment.
@@db2888 you know what maby you didn't, but what young people do you know actually goes around trying to limit (old warriors) because I have never been in contact with any so called old warriors who ever cared about anyone younger than them, most young people dont even go to chruch everyday to have a relationship with Jesus christ, so how can the younger generation be trying to replace anyone? Most people these days focus on christ by themselves, so if all the older people hate the fact that( some) younger people are coming in chruch trying to show different and more open ideas about having a relationship with Jesus christ that is (bible based), than please just keep the seats and we can stay away and focus on Jesus christ by are selves. We don't limit Jesus christ to chruch and traditions
What an amazing interview! Thank you John L Cooper for lighting a fire 🔥 in our hearts...and calling us out. Alisa thank you for your ministry.
So many Christian bands stopped singing about Jesus and are now paying the price.
I am not familiar with very much contemporary christian music, save for the songs "Our God is an awesome God", and that one song by a very deep base singer of 3rd Day (i think), and that is about it. Please elaborate on what christian bands are singing about. I hear that many of these songs are rather empty with much repetition of the same words.
@@xyz-bz1fc about the early 2000 many Christian labels where bought by the big 3 record labels and asked artists to drop Jesus and you will make more money many of them did . They found themselves in debt marriage broken a mess.
I'm not gonna name anyone but many have repented and are changing direction.
@@trueworshiplife
Thanks, I did not know that.
The follow up question/observation I have; is how much were they into Jesus if they can just drop Him for the sake of making more money?
@@xyz-bz1fc The songs have definitely been watered down.
*Awesome God* was written and sung by my friend Rich Mullins.
He was killed in a car wreck, my friend Mitch McVicker was with him and we almost lost him too.
Rich hated "Awesome God", or thought it was not one of his better songs and said he thought it would "fall out of use". But that's the one Rich song everyone knows. You must listen to the verses too though, churches seem to just like the chorus.
Reich's music... I can't think of much that's been that good, especially in the last (yikes, this will be 24 years, feels like yesterday) years. I was so sad recently, put Rich in "random" and just had myself a mini concert a few nights ago. It was just the best time! A lot of Mitch's music is really good too, his life show is fantastic, I always encourage people to see him live.
What's happening with Christians today? Exactly what Jesus said would happen: many will fall away and many wolves in sheep's clothing. 😊
Wow my words exactly!!
Barnum statement.
That isn't whats happening to the church. This is more like judgement.
Exactly, good answer
Exactly!
"we need to go for old wisdom, not what some 20 year old thinks because their pretty" 😮😂😂
I know 😂
Amen
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And "Patriarchy"? Who believes in that old bag of wisdom anymore. I mean, come on. 16 year old Suzie with 100k followers says differently.
Oh my, perfect!
This was so powerful. I was a huge fan of both skillet and zoey girl as a teen and had no idea the ministries you are providing. I believe in the whole word of God. Yeshua’s blood is our redemption. I’ve been trying to put my finger on why I’ve been so disturbed by social justice but you both made it so clear. Praise the Lord for both of you. May Yahovah bless you two so completely.
What John was saying about young people that never learned to make a case is a good point but I would add that they have never learned to think for themselves. Instead they just parrot the latest popular theory to stay relevant.
Yes! Major problem with our youth being taught WHAT to think rather than HOW to think! Man, oh man...
Or they just Perot a minister
@@bkaye62 Same problem. People don't read the Word for themselves, but think they can make an argument against it. People don't think for themselves, but believe what they've been told must be so. Without having a plumbline of truth outside of our "feelings," we have nothing against which to test the things others want us accept as gospel, and are therefore we find ourselves unable (unwilling/unconcerned??) to "take every thought captive," as instructed in the scriptures. (2 Corinthians 10:5)
It was an absolutely terrible point, Christians need to stop being so judgey
I think more so he hit on the fact that young people are often going off a philosophy that by questioning everything and deconstructing any message they hear, they are thinking for themselves. Many are parroting back socially popular messages buy many othes are very much following their own human wisdom and very much "thinking for themselves" problem is, like he points out, this is usually happening without the real time or patience to truly understand the thing they are deciding about. But the real issue is that God calls us not to think for ourselves but to look at things through His heart and His word. Thinking for oneself in this day and age is honestly so exhausting.
I didn’t think I’d watch this whole video but all I can say is wow! Totally worth it! Finally “famous” Christians standing up for the truth for once instead of what’s popular. Thanks for the awesome music and speaking the truth John!
This introduced me to both of you. What a true blessing and encouragement to my heart to hear your testimonies, and see Christians with influence embracing the old biblical wisdom!
PS, I am listening to both of your bands and loving the artistry of your music!! Thank you for standing firm on the word and blessing the name of Jesus to all of us.
Thank you for posting this. It’s a much needed topic in today’s age. God is real, Jesus is truth!
His book is amazing! Read it in 1 day. His podcast is also great and full of biblical truth. Oh, and the music is awesome!!
This is best interview Alica has produced. John was very engaging. He comes across as a humble and genuine human being. I hadn't heard of him nor his band previously.
The band rocks!
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is *the only message in the world* that has the power to transform hearts 💔-> ❤️
By God’s grace 🙏
And for God’s glory 👆🏼
Agreed. Check out: "www.openbible.info/topics/transform"
Untrue
Jesus gave commands. Not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" is going to be judged a "sheep." There will be many "goats" (who think acceding to a creed of "decision salvation" replaces faithfulness demonstrated by following Jesus's commands).
@@pkpapers Remember.....God KNOWS the heart
I dare you to say that out loud on a child cancer ward. Or in a town destroyed by a tsunami.
I am not a parent. But I am certainly in agreement that it is important for believers to teach their children about the Lord!
We live in a culture that listen with their eyes and think with their feelings.
Powerful statement very true
I can't help but think that a lot of people who fall away from the faith, especially celebrities, have actually believed in a false idol and a misrepresentation of the gospel.
Not necessarily. They could just be seeds that fell on bad soil. Or a house built on sand. The moment the flood comes they get swept away into the world.
Thats a good point. And considsring how MILLIONS of people attend each mega church in the USA thats millions and millions of people who were saved by a false gospel and who have never known the truth so of course it will come crashing down. These false preachers have taken over and deceived way too many
Parable of the sower, right?
So tell me why it’s always “God will never leave you” “you’re secured forever” until your not? Doesn’t make any sense.
@@rachelwitenhafer I do believe in eternal salvation, which means that if you're truly saved then you'll always be saved no matter what. So to be consistent I do believe that you can't lose your salvation by committing any sin or by experiencing loss of your faith. If you can't stay faithful, then God will still remain faithful and he will carry you home. The blood of Christ has paid for all of your sins and Christ will always be your advocate before God, and you are permanently sealed by the Holy Spirit unto salvation.
But that's why, when somebody falls away and renounces their faith, it's easier to rationalize it by thinking that they might not have been saved to begin with. How would it be possible to stop believing if the Holy Spirit is in you? But it isn't for anyone to make a final judgment on someone else's salvation.
Makes me think of this CS Lewis gem
“We may be sure that the characteristic blindness of the twentieth century - the blindness about which posterity will ask, "But how could they have thought that?" - lies where we have never suspected it... None of us can fully escape this blindness, but we shall certainly increase it, and weaken our guard against it, if we read only modern books. Where they are true they will give us truths which we half knew already. Where they are false they will aggravate the error with which we are already dangerously ill. The only palliative is to keep the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our minds, and this can be done only by reading old books.”
I’m so thankful God led me to ask hard life questions and really seek out answers from my early teen years. Now about 20 years later, I feel like all that struggle pays off, because I have my head in straight and can discern lies from truth.
I feel exactly the same way. I never knew why I had it so hard and everyone else was getting blessed. God had to lead me through some tough things to make me who I am today, by his grace and his grace alone.
Too many relying on the Faith of others and not walking the path, themselves. This is why they fall away.
Are you saved from your sins?
Jesus commanded the apostles after His resurrection, to preach repentance and remission of sins, in His name, beginning at Jerusalem, and to wait for the promise of the Father, in Jerusalem. -Luke 24
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
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And on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was poured out [Acts 2]
And they spake with tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance.
And Peter preached the gospel unto them and they were pricked in their hearts, and said, men and brethren what shall we do?
And Peter said, Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
This is how the bible says a man is to be saved.
This is why Jesus said, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned -Mark 16
Acts 2:
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
This! The amount of ppl with false conversion saying that the church didn’t save them. I was like a building don’t save u, God does.
Bingo!!
Some Christians think that theres no need for personal engagement, cause Jesus IS everything.
As for me, starving to death is not my thing.
“why settle for what is not bread, for what fails to satisfy”
-Isaiah 55
Yes sir
May I suggest reading Francis Schaefer’s book, “How Should We Then Live”, and also his Christian Manifesto. He predicted this would happen in the 1970’s.
He actually has “How Then Shall We Live” on video. It available on Amazon. It was so eye opening.
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Thank you for the recommendation!
Schaefer was a gift! He also wrote a little booklet call "The new super spirituality" which is also excellent! Read up💯
Great Book. Christian Manifesto is a must read as well.
This stream is on fire! Here I thought I was alone on seeing these things and speaking up about them. Thank you for sharing and encouraging us lay people to speak up where its necessary.
I can’t even begin to tell you how uplifting this was to me. Thank you for being bold enough to have these conversations. This video was literally a regurgitation of what my husband and I have been discussing the last 12 months. Praying over your ministry as you continue! Please don’t stop 🙏🏻
I didn't recognize Alisa at first but I loved Zoe girl! This was an eye-opening video because I thought we'd lost John and the other members of Skillet to the secular world a long time ago. Very thankful to hear they still hold fast to their faith. Alyssa too 💗💗🙏
I liked Zoegirl and Skillet too
I met John in line at 6 flags in Ga. I was a youth pastor at the time (pastor now). John seemed genuinely as happy to meet me as I was to meet him. Love this guy!
John Cooper is now one of my favorite people.
I’m grateful for this content! I appreciate the warning for anyone who wants to deconstruct his faith to first make sure he understands the faith as it is explained to us in the scriptures.
Yes! This is exciting! We need to get back to basics: repent and live right, so we can hear God again.
Take your medications and you won't hear any fictional characters of mythology
@@harrysphincter6496 I was looking for a comment like this. So predictable 😂
@@heavnxbound glad you agree they need mental health care. After all it's the 21st century
The vexation of a fool is known at once,
but the prudent ignores an insult.
Amen!
Thank you John for boldly sharing the authority of God’s Word. This world needs the truth and Christians to proclaim God’s truth and not be ashamed of the Gospel because it is the power of God to bring salvation to everyone who believes
The church has become so involved in "reaching" out to the lost, that a good portion has cut it's roots. It has become watered down, so focused on integrating into the popular culture and its mantras that it no longer is in this world, but not of it, but rather the opposite: of this world, but not in the Kingdom.
Can I just say that, ironically, my experience with many churches is that most are engaged in the wrong kind of outreach or trying to reach out in the wrong ways. As culture forgets how to have discussion with those it doesn’t agree with, so does the members of the church forget how to listen and discuss with those who don’t share their faith. Outreach isn’t about going out into the world and engaging in the world’s activities. Instead it’s about discussion and standing firm on what you believe when there’s a biblical reason for it. It’s about bringing those genuinely desiring to learn into the church to be surrounded by community and mentors as they learn and grow.
One of my experiences that blew my mind was from back when I was in college. We (college students) set up a weekly event on Friday nights for high school and college student where they would come to the church and play good, clean board games, card games, and video games together. We then would discuss and talk about God. We did it for 6 months at one church and brought in about 100 new faces, 30 of which got involved in the regular youth/college group church activities going forward. When we tried to find churches willing to support these activities with any sort of funding, they would never want to be involved anymore. The church leaders never visited the activities going on and often ignored the youth leaders about the positive impact it was having on bringing in youth and teaching college students to be leaders and talk about God. I’ll never forget, one of those very same churches then funded a much more expensive weekly community knitting project hosted outside the church. They were always trying to do the most snazzy thing instead of the things that actually brought new faces, ready to learn about God, into their doors.
@@LaureTheGamer that’s sad to hear. Our church really stresses that faith without works is dead, and that supporting local community efforts (love your neighbor as yourself) are part of who we are as followers of Jesus.
I see the opposite, at least in my town. Some churches are refusing to follow the guidelines amidst this pandemic, like wearing masks. They're trying to "stick it to the government" I guess, despite what the Bible teaches about obeying governing authorities.....And a lot of people who need spiritual growth - like me and my mom - can't go anymore (she has underlying conditions and I feel uncomfortable with it) so we're left at home, as well as many others I assume, because of that.....And some of my fellow Christians are going out maskless, flatout disobeying the rules and making people freak out....As well as other "our way or the highway" scenarios. Church seems like some odd, very closed off community lately.
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@@Ampwich I know Jesus said "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" referring to taxes. I think that was about taxes but also that the Church is a place for SPIRITUAL development rather than Worldly concerns. I don't think he meant obey the government blindly but I could be wrong. I'm sorry your church isn't being safe during the pandemic though.
Wow my mom just died from cancer and I found all my hope, strength, and peace in God. He is still good no matter the circumstances. I really enjoyed this podcast. I love Skillet's music by the way.
Thank you! Just seeing you and John united in the faith after all these years is more uplifting and inspiring than any number of "gut punches" of people getting lost along the way! Keep it up, you have no understanding of the scope of the impact you are having in the lives of many, bringing many to God
John is putting into words what I have been feeling, but couldn't pinpoint what I'm feeling. This is so confirming and clarifying.
How to identify a false church......the world loves it.
so True!
Indeed
EXCELLENT POINT
Very True!!
Not necessarily...we are to witness to the world, and to spread the Gospel. There have been many ages of Christianity after Christ in the world. How do you think we're spreading the Gospel by acting like cult-members? It's no wonder they mock us and call us cultists..
Wow, I loved this broadcast!! I always liked Skillet but I never imagined that John was such a mighty man of God and I can see that it's because of his humble spirit. This was so edifying. God bless your channel and his ministry.
One thing I’ve noticed is that those I know who’ve walked away from their faith seem intent on upsetting the faith of others.
I noticed that as well. I wonder why that is?
Leitha Grover My first guess is that they were never really Christians to begin with, despite what they say.
1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
I think some people may say a few words, go to church for a while, and think they are Christians.... while others make a pretense of believing but hate God and all who bear his name. These love to see people fall.
Exactly!!
They are looking for validation, if they can convince others to agree, they must have been right. Others are testing, "Is this relationship still going to be compatible with my newly espoused worldview?" When the answer is no, they may try to bring you into their new worldview to salvage the relationship.
@@BillyBob-lt5nr spot o
God delivered me from the homosexual life. I was in it to long and thought it was just great, out meeting people every weekend looking for the right one not realizing the right one was never going to come. Now people tell there sorry for me because I became ashamed of who I was, I am ashamed of it but only because I fell for the lie and deception. Dont let anyone tell you that the homosexual life is ok with God or it's what he made you, that is just satan whispering in your ear lying.
I went through the same, I was bullied in school for being different, now I follow God, and He freed me from the gay lifestyle, now woke people bully me. Bless you brother
@@christiaansnyman811 same to you may God keep us both strong.
No need to answer if it's too personal, but I'll ask if you were restored with a passion towards woman or if you just live a "life of a monk"?
Now God will give you bad wife
@@poetsrear neither I live a life for God. I didn't trade one sin for another so I dont go around scoping out women I just leave everything in his hands. You dont have to be with women to be right just live for God and if he places one in my life yes I'm totally good with that but just living for him is good enough. Its been six years and I can say I will never go back to that life.
I feel all of this in my bones. What an encouragement from start to finish
I've missed hearing about your band and your faith. I was watching your group and saw you live several times. I was working as a resource officer in the public school system. Your music in the first albums helped me so much in my work and dealing with all of the problems of the day. God allowed me to talk about God, faith, and what I saw as truth. It was amazing doing the work Whew, I'm retired now and don't see anyone doing the work I did or anyone doing the Christian work much at all. God bless you all trying to share the truth. As you are saying, no one reads or knows the bible it seems. I'm 62 and my time has passed working with the youth and it hurts to see everyone so lost. I still pray and read the word and I thank God for folks like you all.
An old hymn goes like this
Yesterday, today, forever, Jesus is the same.
All may change but Jesus NEVER, glory to His name.
Glory to His Name Glory to His Name. All may change but Jesus never, Glory to His Name.
Are you saved from your sins?
Jesus commanded the apostles after His resurrection, to preach repentance and remission of sins, in His name, beginning at Jerusalem, and to wait for the promise of the Father, in Jerusalem. -Luke 24
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
--
And on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was poured out [Acts 2]
And they spake with tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance.
And Peter preached the gospel unto them and they were pricked in their hearts, and said, men and brethren what shall we do?
And Peter said, Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
This is how the bible says a man is to be saved.
This is why Jesus said, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned -Mark 16
Acts 2:
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Jesus also said to obey your earthly Masters. So remember to listen to your masters since Jesus never changes.
@@kyleisaacson4852 As long as it does not conflict with the law of God.
@@nathaniel3004 I guess you're right. The Bible condone slavery so I guess I should obey my masters.
@@kyleisaacson4852 Well a slave is not a bad thing. Depending on the master..
But in the scripture it says servants obey your masters
Colossians 3:22
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;
Also a servant can be different than a slave.
Thanks for sharing. My wife and I have been heartbroken watching friends walk away from God in recent years. Along with the Progressive Christianity influence there have been two key things that seem to coincide. Ones that walked away seem to have some deep hurts. They also seem to lack Biblical understanding. This includes friends that have served in the ministry.
It may be the case for some, but it was the opposite for me. I was a Christian who had pretty good knowledge of Christianity and I really believed in it. I started studying apologetics and reading my Bible more, and that led me to disbelieve. Also, I am pretty stable emotionally. No one in the church hurt or do I have resentment. I just dont believe. I know all cases are different, but it was curious to me that what you mentioned is totally untrue in my isolated case.
@@irvingalfaro8735 I am assuming you are at peace with your decision to leave but make sure it isn't a False Peace because understanding God's truth became difficult. Knowledge is important but it is important who you are listening to. It isn't a head trip anyway it is a faith journey. But I know it is tough at times understanding. Christian scandals really hurt like with apologetics teacher Ravi Zacharias who I respected and learned from. Good that he was outed but what a thing. I am solid in my faith so it hurt but wasn't earth shattering as I am sure it was for many.
@irving Alfaro
1john 2:19
They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
@@lorene5170 that’s a dumb argument if yo don’t believe in the Bible. It’s like if I quote the Quran or any other religious book that goes against Christianity. Quoting the Bible is useless for those who don’t think it’s the ultimate truth.
@irving Alfaro All I did was point out that the Bible says all of the things that are happening today. I’m not arguing anything. My whole point to quoting is that a lot of people fall away because they were never born again to begin with. I’m not saying that happened to you but it’s a possibility. Sorry I offended you.
John Cooper is such an intelligent man. Most people think they've got the answer in a 4 minutes video.
I remember several times even in church, I would here so much emphasis on a text that I haven't fully grasped, or it feels like it's being rammed down my throat. So in a moment of discomfort, I would go back and read a few verses or chapter before that verse to get the context of it, and by so doing, I would have better understanding. But the world is so fast paced that Christians don't even want to take their time to study so they can defend what they believe. Because the Bible can be easily misinterpreted by anyone who doesn't take their time to study
Interpret and study in the context of the WHOLE bible. Start today, it's worth it!
Very well said! Our pace is supposed to be opposed to that of the world, which is so fast-paced, as you said.
So encouraged by y'all's stand for truth. It's a breath of fresh air and I believe it's because it points us to the one who gives us our breath! =D Love it. Thank God for his word.
When I was a little girl and listening to Skillet and Zoegirl (and Alisa’s father Chuck Girard), never did I imagine that later at 28 I’d be listening to you both here 😁 So glad you are doing this!
Hello Maam, have you obeyed the gospel of Jesus Christ?
John is such an articulate speaker! Thank you for sharing this! Love from Wisconsin!!
Oh, a lovely bright spot😇🤗🕯️🏴in a miserably cold Sunday evening in yet more splendid isolation!😱 Looking forward to this Alicia - thank you!🤗❤️
You're totally awesome. I love you from Warsaw Poland where Jesus lives
You know the verse, " In the last days they will be a great falling away. "
Yes, so many false prophets out there. RUclips is full of them.
"Falling away" means people stop being Christian. Progressive Christians are still Christian, just like Quakers, Catholics, and Anglicans are still Christians.
@@justyouraverageyoutubeacco256 True biblical Christianity is not the same as religious Christianity. Religion is nothing but a man-made effort at righteousness and to be born again, a person needs to put their trust in God and in His Son, Jesus of Nazareth. Then He will lead you, if you are willing more and more away from religion and into His own loving care. But He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; nobody comes to the Father except through me."
@@ibealion1 In your opinion, what is the difference between the two? Why do you feel they are distinct groups?
@@justyouraverageyoutubeacco256 Well, I would be mis-representing myself and the Bible if I claimed it as my opinion. In John 3, the Lord Jesus said that in order to see and in order to enter the Kingdom of God, a person must be born from above. He then spent the rest of His earthly ministry preaching the gospel of the Kingdom and pointing out to the pharisees and religious leaders the error in their effort to try to establish religious rules and regulations. It would be too much to try to put it all here, but I think if you read the gospel of John and the gospel of Matthew, you will see it yourself. But then the books of Acts and Romans in the Bible offer further insight and clarification to what we saw take place in the gospels. Especially Romans 1-4 show that any righteousness that is established by the law is no righteousness at all. In fact, it says that true righteousness on our part before God can only come through faith in Christ and it's by His "one act of righteousness" that our lives will be preserved when we stand before God in judgement and will have NOTHING to do with our good and evil deeds. (Note: I'm not saying that our good and evil deeds don't matter, but that's a very different and very long discussion.) Religion is about our righteous acts. True Biblical Christianity is founded upon His One Righteous Act.
Thank you John for being a man. A man of integrity and wisdom. A strong man of God who is not afraid to stand up for God with love, passion and valor. May God greatly bless you!!🕊🙏
Found out about your story and your book, “Another gospel” on Cross Examined. And now having Skillet lead singer on with his story is awesome. I am so glad there are heroes of the faith anchoring into Jesus and emphatic truth. Thank you for presenting what God has called you to share.
This is one of the most important interviews believers in this hour need to hear. 👍👍
Great interview! Love Skillet. I used to play Skillet CD's for my fifth graders during math. I heard a song in a restaurant on their playlist a couple of days ago and still love their music! Thanks for speaking out the truth. Jesus reigns!
"We need to go back to old wisdom, not what some 20 year old thinks because they're pretty." THANK YOU
I’m seeing so many of them on insta/tik tok. Honestly i dislike the strange/cringe part of Christian social media, rather watch wholesome content 😃👍
I think It have to be like 50 years ago....!
@@marym8712 Wholesome content? Then you probably shouldn't read the Bible with the perversion and brutality that's in it
@@harrysphincter6496 I didn’t mean to offend you in anyway, by wholesome I mean e.g. things like animal or cute content, but reading my Bible is more wholesome than anything . Pls Don’t be offended 😄👍
@@marym8712 the Bible is full of perversion and brutality or do you just cherry pick?
What he says in the beginning is amazing. “Go read a book” 😂
That is my favorite thing to tell people lol. Read a damn book and ask yourself what YOU think...not what someone else tells you to think.
@@melindaroop1346 How do you know that they aren't thinking for themselves? It sounds like you're just assuming that ignorant because they are Christians with a different perspective than you.
make sure the Bible is the most read book in your household, though
@@bob_greene if it’s in your household it’s already the most important one. But how you treat may determine it’s importance to you.
Fantastic Interview. Love you all my brothers and sisters. we will Rise soon enough