The Worlds HIGHEST HP All-Motor Nissan 350Z VQ Engine Is Going HYBRID
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- We visit OnPoint Dyno to discuss his new 4.2L Nissan VQ V6 naturally aspirated all motor engine with individual throttle bodies and a plan to add a hybrid electric system. Will this Nissan 350Z VQ engine be the highest horsepower NA motor? We plan to find out!
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Every video with this guy blows my mind.
AWESOME build. I wish I knew At least half of what Sasha knows software and electrical. VW group needs to hire him to build some nice cars.
Sure I like Lotus. But what they really need is good marketing
VQs generating 480 hp ran in 2011 already, in the "World series by Renault" Formula V6 race cars. Wonder what kind of magic was done to those engines back then that did not make its way into the tuner world
Pneumatic valve springs?
found pictures of the engine (google Dallara_T02_Nissan)... cam covers looks fairly normal, tho its a different type forming a sort of girdle with the cast timing cover (probably as the engine is a stressed member in the Formula car). I also see a drysump and ITBs not too different in length and diameter, but they point straight up. Exhaust runner length also seems similar
Pneumatic springs only in F1.
previous engine with 420hp @9200 rpm and threw a rod is a good combo that would just need rods. The Dallara_T02_Nissan would have used higher compression, exotic fuels, special crankshaft and titanium bits where they could to rev to 1000 rpm more than this budget setup. Sascha is like titanium conrod in weight that helps plenty.
Sasha is on that next level
Props to that man for the level of knowledge he has accumulated
This would literally be the perfect application for supercapacitors. They're lightweight regen great and then you can charge the battery as well. And it would also help buffer the batteries.
all the boost Yeah it would but cost and weight for super caps aren’t too great at the moment. Plus it greatly complicates the charging and discharging process that’s already going to be somewhat tricky to control. But I’m curious to see where it goes, I really like the ambition Saha has for this project.
I literally blew my water out of my mouth when I head 15:1 compression ratio on the new pistons. What you guys are doing is literally mind blowing. Who can I contact to build an engine similar to this one?
Beau get in line man 🤣🤣
I seriously can't wait to hear that thing go full beans at the dyno!
How much power do you think it will make......
Sahsa: SNNNIIIFFFF 🤧
CapitanCanadia his brain juices flowing ha
@@raw_fittedz port n polish
I looked in the comments section just to see if I was the only person that found this intolerable. I tried to watch the entire thing and learn about the motor, and all I heard was *gulp*, *sniff*, *other nasal/throat noises*.
Jesus Christ man
"Actually my name is Sasha"
Love these nerd out sessions.
I salute Sasha for his pioneering spirit in regard of complimenting electric powerplants in to this level of motorsports. Im really jealous at his abilities and bravenes to work at those areas! All the best for you...
Amazing. Some questions for Sasha if he cares to answer them maybe next video. Is this still a DE block or the taller deck height HR block?
I presume by the cam bucket conversation that this is still DE heads, not the rocker type 3.7 heads.
What’s the new stroke compared to stock? I know the trucks 4.0 use a 92mm stroke compared to the 3.5s 81.5mm.
Are these off the shelf S2000 rods that are used to create a ‘long rod’ engine for reduced piston side load or some other reason?
How high are you going to rev this engine? Is valve train or piston speed the limiting factor?
Excellent video, hugely intriguing. Best of luck!
Rob Evans Anytime now Sasha its been 49 minutes
I know it's a VQ35HR block and heads that he used to have a VQ37VHR crank in. He's redline was 9,000rpm before; so, I would expect no higher than 9,500rpm with the longer stroke.
At 2:33 you can see the VQ37 stamp on the block
Nicholas Rodrigues I actually went back and rewatched the velocity stack dyno video and saw Sasha mention it’s a junkyard HR engine.
My other questions still stand. Thanks!
@@lb9gta307 They're definitely VQ35HR heads and not the VVEL heads
I want to do this basically with a naturally aspirated rotary. Except instead of some company in Switzerland, repurpose a CRZ transmission
Crz electric motor is part of the block, not the transmission (though the transmission can accept 8th gen Civic si lsd, it does have a little extra space for the electric motor).
However, would absolutely be amazing with a turbo Dorito!!! Even as a range extender, having a small electric motor would help, but I also have your dream.
The v6 Accord hybrid had an electrical motor and wattage better than the crz, though still nimh and not lion in the battery refresh.
Sasha is the man, can’t wait to see him get the hybrid system all sorted and for the car to become a serious time attack machine.
This has got to be my favourite racecar build ever. Sasha is nerd goals
Lmao that thing makes more HP than my Z does on 10lbs I’d boost 🤣🤣😫😫
CK_32 be happy mines not even making all of its power as it's still stock 😂
Bra its incredible i bet it fucking screams
post up some videos
Ryan Maatta Ck_32 Instagram
how much power does the engine in the vid make?
The size of those fronts, holy shit. Power steering pump is the real mvp.
best sounding trombone around i bet. a VQ im actually itching to hear. awesome stuff man
I can't wait for the hybrid system!
2"-2.125" stepped primaries slows air speed way too much. 1-7/8" primaries is optimal, and proper 3.5" merge collectors. It will pump up the midrange, and the engine will accelerate faster.
Did you do a CFD on that or is your suggestion based on trial and error?
I'd imagine with how much air that motor can take in it really needs bigger primaries
You need to feature this car as much as possible!! Amazing
Tim Crawford so good!
I can not wait for the next video on this motor! Sasha and JWT have a true beast here
On Point is always on point
Going to be epic! Nice to see sasha back on the channel! Also.... We need more Ken Wagon too!
The VQ that will rule them all, great work!
Wish someone would design a front axle hybrid unit for all rwd cars… it makes so much sense!
If Sasha will allow can you show as much as possible on what he’s doing. It sounds so very cool.
We will be on the dyno with him next week. Video will follow shortly after.
The world is watching. Keep up the amazing work!!
Great stuff and really weird to watch because I literally studied his 350z build in a previous form yesterday in a issue of super street (vol. 21 no. 8 to be exact his cover issue) haha but anyways so awesome to watch how progressive he is with anything he does he is smart and a great guy awesome to see this motor in this form and can't wait to see what him and this car can do even if it's just for "FUN" haha! Thanks for keeping us informed with him I can't remember how he documents his work online but I sure would like to follow more in depth somehow if you guys could help me with that I would really appreciate it
The 911 RSR / GT3 R engine makes 550hp out of 4.0 liters, but that is with the restrictor installed.
Even the street version of that engine with the less aggressive tune, street-legal exhaust and street-legal enclosed intake makes over 500hp.
How hard is it to take a 911 motor and make it as close to a R or gt3 motor
@@Fee.1 You mean like a normal 3.4 Liter engine out of a 991.1 Carrera? Literally nothing is the same, you'd have to change everything. With the 991.2 or 992 its even more difficult since these are effectively a later generation of engines and even more stuff changed - including that they are now turbocharged and have lower compression and a smaller bore size.
I suppose you could theoretically turn a regular 991 3.4 Liter N/A into a GT3 engine, but you'd literally have to change everything, including boring out the block by 5mm per piston. And also you'd have to get a lot of very expensive parts like titanium valves, bolts and rods, forged pistons, forged crank and so on. But basically it could be done, because they basically all share the same block, albeit with two different bore sizes. Could be done, but would be very expensive because you'd have to upgrade every single part.
Fee impossible. Well, nearly impossible.. but for the money you would spend modifying the 911 motor would outweigh just buying a 991.1 GT3.
Elliot Davis Nah. Completely revising the engine with machine work and new parts would maybe cost you about 20-30k but not nowhere near what a used GT3 costs
Meteor Media Turning your standard 991.1 Carrera engine into to 991.1/2 GT3 engine is much more difficult then just stroking the engine to 3.8/4.0L. The GT3 engine uses many light weight components that come directly from the 911 Cup Car and 917. Those light weight components allow the engine to rev so high, a critical component of the GT3 engine. Those light weight internals (titanium connecting rods, crank case, cylinder heads, etc) that help the GT3 achieve a 9k RPM redline would also be incredibly expensive to make. In addition, you would need to retrofit your standard Carrera engine with a dry sump, a much bigger intake, a new ECU, etc. Porsche parts aren’t cheap, and mechanics that specialize in Porsche’s aren’t any cheaper.
Sasha is an absolute madman, a lot of the things he is talking about are completely out of my brains league but I respect it! Really looking forward to seeing and HEARING this car ripping on the track!
so it's a 420Z😁
Hahaha you got a point 👍
a year late, but i see what you did there.
Sashy is a living legend - yo dp!
I don't think he should be too concerned with losing any 'higher pitch exotic' sound, there are many other factors having a more significant affect on the sound, not the least of which is the camshaft(and it sounds like there's is pretty rowdy too!).
Being a car guy first, but a V8 guy second, here's some domestic V8 examples...
Ford Mods
4.6l - 90.2mmB x 90.0mmS
5.0l Coyote - 92.2mmB x 92.7mmS
5.4l - 90.2mmB x 105.8mmS
Pushrod Fords
302/5.0l - 101.6mmB x 76.2mmS
351/5.8l - 101.6mmB x 88.9mmS
429/7.0l - 110.8mmB x 91.2mmS
LSx
LS1/5.7l - 99mmB x 92mmS
Gen3 Hemi
5.7l - 99.49mmB x 90.88mmS
Point being, of those engines, the Ford Modular V8s are known for being pitcher high RPM screamers, the most exotic sounding of contemporary domestic crossplane V8s. Even the last GT500 5.8l is known to be a higher pitched screamer. This, in spite of being from nearly square to heavily under-square bore:stroke compared to its notably deeper, bass-ier marketplace competitors and earlier Ford 'ancestry', who are decidedly over-square(even if they've balanced the bore:stroke much more in newer engines).
Mind you, this isn't down to the Mod motors being 4-valve vs the 2-valve pushrods - the 2- & 3-valve Mod motors are certainly more similar sounding to the 4-valves Mods than any of the pushrod examples.
Crank up the cubes - the sound definitely won't get worse!
what a machine !! please keep us updated guys :D
Sasha is a mad scientist!! Insane build!! I cant wait to see the updates!
I've been thinking about a hybrid build similar to this for awhile since I saw F1 apply it to their cars..... oh man I'm soo in love with this build
Damn that VQ looks ROCK HARD
this thing sounded mental prior to all this work, i think this is going to sound magic
Awesome sasha glad to see the car back on the build in all its glory, n/a power is expensive but the sound and drive ability 🎵 makes it worth it keep up good work and great video speed acadamy
From door off drifting to this innovation! Keep going!
Mind blowing!!! Amazing things to come!!!
Sasha is one of those higher beings. He doesn't bitch about direction of car industry, he just works with what we have, and makes everything better. :D I bet he can make anything better,I have slow coffee maker, needs a bit of Sasha love. :)
18 jealous haters gave this a thumbs down.
So excited for the dyno and first track tests.
Huge thumbs up!!!
Nissan should just hire that guy.
Awesome build , can not wait to see it put back together
this guy Sasha, is a legend.
keeps impressing
Can't wait for Sasha's results! come on 500 glad he didn't go with a blower and staid N/A
Been waiting for this video. Thanks. Sashs breakdown
The engineers designed the VQ to be as good as it could practically be, Sasha took it to as good as it could possibly be. He took it to the limit, then picked the limit up and carried it further. Sasha is the setter of bars.
Did I miss it, or did they not specify how much RPM this engine can take? It's a 4.2-liter with a stroker crank, but it has big ITBs, massive primaries on the headers and they're looking for crazy all-motor power, guessing it'll see 8,000+ RPM to flow enough?
I’d like to know if you can get a 1/4 mile time. I realize it is a track engine setup, but it would be interesting to know!
Goddamn Sasha! you never cease to amaze me.
Such an amazing build!
With tolerances so extremely tight from top to bottom reliability is majorly questionable. Testing will prove this out fer sure. Props for building this thing.
Yeah that doesn't seem smart considering thermal expansion alone...
But surely these guys considered it.
I want to know if the author has canceled the VVEL technology of this engine? High camshaft instead?
What is the name of the Switzerland company!? Read through 100+ comments and several searches and can't find any Switzerland formula e suppliers. Would love to track down companies other than Schaeffler (German) who make similar products and supply formula e.
Talk about cutting edge in a VQ! I’m so excited for this bad boy. I just want my HP to match the car type. 350z/350hp!
PlanesTrainsAutos it always should have 😒
A 500bhp N/A 4.2L engine for my 370z sounds pretty nice..... jwt sell that setup turn key?
He said 500rwhp at the end \m/
Sasha is a tech wizard! I can't wait to see what that motor makes power wise!
So he has a axial flux? Well I’d like to know of similar versions that way I can get one myself for my project
can someone please explain why having an electric motor allows one to "get rid" of the clutch and flywheel? Would that not mean that when the engine is spinning the wheels must be as well/ the car wouldn't be able to coast?
Making moves!!! excited to see more
Insane man good job
Great video. Been following on point on ig to get as much info as possible. Super pumped about this engine for the vq community. Got some questions tho. So when the engine goes in the car and tuned, is it going on back on track with that set-up or with the hybrid in place? Lap times of the most powerful na vq would be awesome to see. I also take it that super charging, like Sasha had mentioned before, is no longer happening? If the engine is reliable where is Sasha going to campaign this thing?
All great questions. We'll ask Sasha for insight on these while on the dyno with him next week (with a video to follow shortly after).
Need like a q&a with that VQ God.
awesome platform.
would like to see this stuff out for other vq motors
That car going around the track makes me want a Quaife so bad!
wow...with such tight internal clearances, how do you account for expansion at operating temp or worst, overheating?
I was thinking the same. But there's no way people on their level didn't consider something as simple as thermal expansion. I'm guessing the materials they used they likely don't expect to grow much? Idk, sounds sketchy lol
I can't wait to see the final product.
What a COOL engine!
Why not use a vq40de block and a vq37vhr head then stroke that?
MIND BLOWN!!!!
Hmmm it seems like a very expensive route to go to hybridize this motor when Nissan already sells the VQ35HR in hybrid form.... Obviously you guys have an insane amount of work into this block already and if you wanted it to function closer to a KERS system than I suppose custom build is the only way to go.
Personally I would have loved to see how far the stock hybrid motor could go.
I’m wondering
Getting all that power naturally aspirated, does that have a significant effect on the reliability and lifespan of the engine if done correctly?
Holy crap that shop is clean ;D
Sasche makes hybrids interesting :)
Most likely that engine is scavenging to gain topend horsepower and allow to rev higher than normal. Scavenging is bleeding off some compression to create stronger vacuum on the exhaust side to create a stronger vacuum on the intake side which in case creates more horsepower in the topend. That engine should sound nasty on the dyno. I also noticed the headers design, definitely made for scavenging. F1 technology implemented in this engine.
Not really F1 technology. Just engineering m8. Scavenging was around prior to its use in F1
Great knowledge, mad scientist!
This guy reminds me of Stephan Papadakis
And now were putting it in in the green silvia
Sasha man. Please check your hearth. You breath very hard. Please check before is to late.we need you to be around for the love of the sport
sasha is a mad man , love it !!
Omg I want to hear that engine sing. Wow.
I can't wait to see this run
would be interesting to see this car parked side by side and compared to the JUN Stream Z
especially since Junichi-san from Jun Power just passed away days ago...
@@shonancheta is that the JUN guy from in the JUN option videos?
Love it! What size /makeup of battery are you adding?
we'll be shooting video of the hybrid system, so all that will be covered in a future episode.
@@speedacademy Awaome. I've had the same idea floating around for ages but to see someone doing it is great if anyone can make it work it is Sasha. 700bhp combined output with tourque fill from a hybrid will be insane even if the ZX is abit portly..
Very nice man. Ill suspect somewhere around 600hp. I think he is being a big superstitions about it and doesn't want to seem like a fool by saying it may make near 600.
Sam Neave would be proud. Goals.
Interesting build. 👍
Sasha is a genius
Sasha is seriously one of the smartest guys in motorsports.
Damn can’t wait to hear it!!
Wwwwooooooooo have been waiting for this video
If I had a 350z or a 370z (fairlady z) probably a VK56 v8 swap it is going to take place under the hood
Huh?
@@Fee.1 VK56DE, Nissan titan
fanisfbt take place under the hood though? I don’t follow
@@Fee.1 I obviously mean that I'm going to the swap
fanisfbt is English a second language for you by chance? Anyhow thanks for clarifying
Now that is some good power per cubic inch I tell you.
Sasha did mention he has written 90% of the software. May I ask what in what language the ECU programming is done. I would imagine something low level for better memory management, for example C, as it is embedded?
Would not be surprised if it was done mainly in assembly
Seeing that dry sump pulley not having a machined lip to hold the belt on gives me anxiety. I'm sure it needs be like that being the pump is fixed and its a stretch to fit belt. Lose that belt and you lose your engine.
It's a full race motor with full stand alone. If they have gone with a dry sump pretty safe bet they have a light on the oil pressure to trigger shutdown.
Wow excited!
Y'all need to see what you can do with a VK56.
Not a professional, but I think this car could benefit greatly from a new aero package for the sides of the car