I heard a LeBron fan boy make a comment that resonated with me… He said he can explain everything he’s ever seen LeBron do on a court, but his brain couldn’t comprehend half the things he saw from Jordan videos…he was in disbelief. MJ 🐐
i watched a gen z br@ns@xual clown as he watched one of the videos about mj (the mixtape); couple of the plays he looked like he couldnt believe what he was watching then he had to keep rewinding and watching again saying "that looks fake; i'm not saying its fake but ..." as he watched it again there was no goat debate after the 2011 final that was clear
@@irissanders7487 AND U BELIEVE IN MARBURY WHO TRY TO SUICIDE IN LIVE TV ?? WHAT THAT MAKES YOU THEN TO BELIEVE UNSTABLE HUMAN WHO ALSO LOST GOLD MEDAL TO GINOBILI WHILE HAVING SUPERTEAM Одговори
I saw MJ live in Chicago in person vs Phoenix and saw his and Lebron’s entire careers. Watching MJ’s highlights still amazes me till this day. Dude was an alien and sometimes I’m like this can’t be real and I saw all of his games.
Like I always say, you don't see this BS in boxing, football, baseball, golf and the list goes on. Only basketball allowed such a foolish, garbage ass phony debate, to go on as long as it is. Sad to say, it still going on which makes basketball media to me. The worst media EVER, in sports media history.
@@ScottRachelson777I’ll say this. Jordan fans will always side with Jordan and lebron fans will side with lebron. For neutral fans like myself, I have Jordan over Lebron. I go by law of averages. Just like in life, luck falls in your favor but bad luck happens too. In a large sample size it probably evens out. Jordan winning more titles in fewer years is the main thing. If Lebron wants to take the mantle, he has to either win a 4peat or win 7 rings with 7 mvps. I’ve heard all the arguments but concluded an argument for Lebron has a counter argument for Jordan. Jordan has pippen. Lebron has wade, bosh, kyrie/love and AD. Jordan has Phil. Had lebron won more titles with Spo and lue they would be legendary too. Jordan had a better gm. Lebron started player empowerment and klutch sports mafia. Jordan had weak opponents in finals. Lebron played in weaker east to make all those finals appearances. If you say Lebron took cavs team to finals I would say yes that was impressive. That only proved to me Lebron had a better start for his career than Jordan. But once you get talent, I expect you to win. I’ll give some other goat examples from other sports. I’m a big Montana fan. When Brady won his fourth ring, I still had Montana as the goat qb. When Brady won his 5th against the falcons with that crazy comeback I crowned him the goat. In tennis, I was a sampras fan. Then Federer took over the mantle. Now it’s djokovic.
these gen z br@ns@xual cultists are laughable i saw one on a youtube video saying that the video didnt change his mind AFTER saying "i didnt know jordan was like this/like that before watching this" so wait--- you literally ADMITTED there are simple things you don't even KNOW about jordan but had ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU MADE THE VIDEO that lebalco is better? this is the level of "intelligence" you're dealing with in general whenever you debate a br@ns@xual
AND U BELIEVE IN MARBURY WHO TRY TO SUICIDE IN LIVE TV ?? WHAT THAT MAKES YOU THEN TO BELIEVE UNSTABLE HUMAN WHO ALSO LOST GOLD MEDAL TO GINOBILI WHILE HAVING SUPERTEM
Damn right bro. He created the modern day NBA we have now he was the first player of that calibur. I was 6 in 84, and I knew who he was at that age because the way my uncle and cousin regarded him.
The REAL ones know. Sir Flop A Lot didn’t even surpass Kobe, unless you’re counting the senseless, meaningless, very questionable scoring title, where he used the Lakers to wear one of their uniforms to break it in. 🤔
@@iig2310 KOBRICK WASNT EVEN STARTER FIRST 3 YEARS HE ALSO HAD SHAQ SINCE DAY 1 WHILE BRON HAD GIBSON. U MUST BE DERANGED. LEBRON NEVER ABUSES SOMEONES DAUGHTER IN MOTEL THAT COST LIFE HIS GIANNA
Only 1 guy dominated game thats Wilt Chamberlain. I dunno in what aspect Jordan dominate when Rodman defended Shaq Rodman grab most RPG, Pippen led Bulls in defense APG SPG . Basketball jhave 5 major stats Jordan failed in 4
His fans are emotional Mama's boys that were raised by single mothers, it's just sports in basketball, people don't have to have him in their top five, we live in the real world not in a cult
This is why it’s important to get the perspective of players that played in both eras that Jordan and Bron played in themselves. Starbury played at least 6 NBA seasons while Bron was playing and played at least 4 seasons when Jordan was playing.
Never thought in my lifetime that people are delusional enough that they put someone to GOAT status with a lose record… not ALI, not Gretsky, not Federer, not Tiger.. obviously not MJ or Kareem. Its not even for a debate..
I watched s video a few hrs ago with Nick Wromg saying the '92 Dream Team was overrated and the '24 team is better. Totally laughable 😂😂😂 'The '92 team was basically 1a and 1b at all 5 positions on the court.🏀🏀🏀
@@brianharron3435 Bron has teamed up with enough superstars to fill an all-star roster and still can't turn a team into a DYNASTY because he still LOSES most of the time anyway. Bron has had the most coaches fired and players traded in NBA HISTORY and still LOSES most of the time anyway. Bron has teamed up with enough superstars to fill an Olympic roster and his fans still say he only loses most of the time because he still needs more help. Maaan FOH with all these damn EXCUSES, Bron just ain't Jordan 😂😂😂
MJ is not the G.O.A.T. over LeBron because LeBron IS NOT the 2nd best player of all-time. I believe that Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Bird are ALL DEFINITIVELY BETTER than LeBron James and an argument can be made for a few more players. MJ is the G.O.A.T. and LeBron's is not even remotely on his level.
Grew up as a Celtics fan when Antione Walker and The Truth were there. When the Celts played LA and the ball touched Bryant’s hands at a big moment there was a feeling of dread because you knew what was going to happen before it happened. With Lebron you were shocked that he hit a bug shot. Intangibles are what make legends… not stats
CAUSE KOBRICK WAS WIDE OPEN BECAUSE OF SHAQ WHILE BRON PLAYED WITH GIBSON. ALSO KOBRICK WASNT EVEN STARTER I KNOW NOWQ TYHAT U NEVER SAW ANTOINE WALKER CAUSE EDDI JONMES WAS AGAINST WALKER NOT KOBRICK.
@@DREAMERSPRO TELL ME DERANGED WHERE IS KOBRICK AND GIANNA ?? WHY U BELIEVE WHAT MARBUYRY SAY GUY WHO TRY TIO SUICIDE. UI SAW MARBURY LIVE PUBLIC SOCIAL NETWORKS TRY TO SUICIDE YET U CALL BRON SOFT. LOOK PPL I TAGGED UNSTABLE RUclips CHNNEL OWNER
Jordan and Lebron aren’t in the same conversation. This new generation focus more on empty calorie stats .. Lebron stats are empty, Caitlin Clark stats are empty. I don’t care how popular you are .. if you don’t have the fkn titles .. how you a goat with no college championships (cc didn’t win no championships with lowa) or your first championship was on the back of another champion? (D wade)
Yeah empty stats should never put you in a GOAT debate. That's like Dak Prescott putting up big numbers after falling behind by 3 TDs in the 1st or 2nd quarter. Then trying to make a comeback then the defense are playing prevent. Yes he put up 300 plus yards but you were down by 3 scores.
@@sagiterrorist1211 Yes and a lot of fans don't see that, they only go by the box score and end results. Now he did have a great season last year but that hasn't been the story of his career.
it is insulting to compare someone with a losing record in the nba finals that played in stacked superteams against the GOAT that is Michael Jeffrey Jordan
YEAH BECAUSE HAVLICEK 8-0 IN A ROW IS GOAT. ITS INSULTING TO COMPARE GUIY WHO QUIT LOAD MANAGE EVERYTIMEAND STILL HAVWE LESS RINGS THAN GOAT JOHN HAVLICEK
My son just sent me a global pole in over 80% of the global population have Michael Jordan as the standard,, his emotional fans can keep getting on the Internet arguing opinions it ain't going to change a damn thing
A LeBron fan told me in a debate that Jordan ain't the only player that went 6-0 in the finals lmao 🤣🤦🏿♂️ but Mike my goat I'm 39 I saw his first chip getting over the hump in the Detroit to the final shot in utah to the his 2 yrs in Washington
The goal of playing at the professional level is to win, win convincingly, win accolades, and to dominate..Jordan has done that, and so has bill Russell, slight difference is Jordan has more accolades,bill has more chips.but anyways winning is the goal
Jordan is the GOAT hands down with Kobe a respectably close 2nd. The only problem with the Marbury endorsement is it comes from a person who eats Vaseline for breakfast and therefore it may not carry a lot of weight with the LeBron fan boys who may want to discredit him for that reason.
@@brianharron3435they all say that but can't stop talking about the man 😂😂 they are addicted to talking about someone they don't like..never seen anything like it b4
@DreamersPro So here's the problem with Marbury's assessment (which he's wrong on by the way). LBJ is not the best all around player he or we have ever seen, it's MJ. Unfortunately , like Marbury most of us did not get to see MJ play LBJ's role of Point (forward). MJ was however, during Doug Collins last year (the last 24 games of the season I believe) asked to play Point Guard and these are the numbers he produced: 13 triple doubles in 24 games his averages during this span of time was the following: 39.8 minutes a game. 30.4 points (LBJ averages 27.1 in a much softer league), 9.2 rebounds (LBJ averages 7.5), 10.7 assists, (LBJ averages 7.4) 2.5 steals LBJ averages 1.5) , 0.9 blocks (while 3 inches taller LBJ averages 0.7) , FG% 49.8 (LBJ averages 50.6 he also finishes at the rim more often in his career), 3P% 27.3 (LBJ 34.8), FT% 88.8 (LBJ 73.6), Turnovers PG 3.8 (for reference LBJ averages 3.5 per game). When asked to do what LBJ does regularly< MJ was superior in most of the categories: Points, rebounds, assists, steals, Blocks, FT%. So we need to stop with this narrative that LBJ is the best all around player we've ever seen, he's not, he's just the one that we've seen do it most often. Just in case we got doubters, this information comes from Statmuse: www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=michael+jordans+stats+in+the+last+24+games+of+88-89+regular+season
Lebron at 6 or 7 is crazy. I agree MJ is the greatest ever but that’s easily Lebron slander to have him that low. We can’t play the titles game exclusively.
outside of these trolls real ppl that know basketball knows that lebron is definitely top 3… and i love kobe… but my favorite player which is kobe has lost a 3-1 lead and has been swept in a few playoff series just like lebron
@@Prodydworthy585 naw you right bro that’s why i never considered lebron to be the greatest kobe is my favorite but mike is the goat to me..but to say lebron 6 or 7 is wild
One doesn't need to eat $hit to know what it tastes like, Charles, nor does one need to have played in the NBA to know what GOATage looks like. Keep up the good work brother.
"The best all around player" yet he has the most Finals losses while having the most help 🤦🏽♂️ its bs.. How is Jordan not the best all around? He's the best 2 way player hands down, dude had ZERO WEAKNESSES, how is that not the best all around? 🤔
my list 1. jordan 2. kareem 3. kobe 4. magic 5. bron 6. duncan 7. russell 8. bird 9. wilt 10. shaq i liked how he acknowledged jordan as the goat but still gave bron his flowers. alot of folks dont want to do that and i know its difficult dealing with the bronsexuals and nut huggers. its harder when bron be on his bullshit tryna control the narrative. but i choose not to indulge in the foolishness. for me, bron eliminated himself from the goat debate when he got outplayed by jason terry and jj barea in a finals series. so the highest he'll ever get is 4 or 5.
@@jb5146 yep but kobe wasn't getting locked up by them two. The lakers just got their ass kicked. Bron had 8 points in a finals game. And literally was a no show in 4 straight 4th quarters. It was an all time collapse. And ive seen kobe lose in the first and second round and the finals but he wasn't that bad. Not even close.
Before the Championships it has been noted that Jordan seemed nonhuman in the presence and I witnessed it from afar with his unnatural ability to play basketball. Jordan was just that different and Wemby if he stays healthy is going to be one of the same caliber players.
Magic never actually "played center", tbh. One of the greatest myths in sports is that Magic Johnson played center in Game 6 of the 1980 NBA finals. It never happened. He *jumped* center and that was basically it. Magic jumped center against Caldwell Jones of the 76ers, and also guarded him for the first few minutes. However, the 76ers also started Darryl Dawkins. He played center in their offense, while Jones, an offensive zero, played forward. Dawkins was guarded by Jim Chones, who started at center and played the position at both ends of the floor the entire game, except for the times he was spelled by Mark Landsberger. The only time Caldwell Jones played center for the 76ers was when Dawkins was not on the floor. However, Magic never guarded Jones during these times--Chones or Landsberger did. And Magic never guarded Dawkins at any time in that game.
Got Jordan at 1, and Bron at 8 or 9, but when you watch Kareem vs Doc 1v1 it will make you consider the 1 on 1. Jordan versus Kareem, Wilt, or Bill Russell might not go his way. Team wise Jordan is #1
i've been an nba fan since 1969. i was never a jordan fan. i didn't like him when he entered the league, thinking "he's just a flashy ball-hog". then i hated him because he constantly killed my knicks. but it became very clear, very soon, that he was on a different level. once he matured on the court and allowed himself to be coached, i realized that he was the best player i had ever seen, bar none. and he only continued to get better, even as his athleticism started fading. in my mind, mj is far and away the goat of basketball. or at least, so far. and i am not buying what the wemby-coming-for-jordan cult is selling. at least not yet.
6 or 7 is too generous Charles for LeBron to be on that spot 😂😂😂 but no one is disputing your list ✌🏽coz the last time I commented on one of your previous videos that he’s not even on top 10, a war started on the responses 😂😂😂
I grew up in a Lakers household, my dad and his friends would be so loud about it, always had the A.M. going with Chick Hearn over whoever was on TV. By the time the Bulls beat the Suns, my dad couldn’t hold it back anymore, he said Jordan is the best, excitedly. And then all my friends that are Lakers fans, had their admissions that Jordan is the best, over Magic, over Kobe, over Shaq. And that is hard for homers to say.
He was legit in the running at some point. Then came the endless excuses and no accountability. Let’s not forget handpicking his own team and coaches and then he and the media blame everyone but him. Now we have shifted from winning titles to breaking records as the measuring stick for the G.O.A.T debate. Will I would be the GOAT as well if I played 20 years, maybe half the season each year, and had BALCO helping with my nutrition.
lebron vs kobe head to head 16 to 6..but kobe tortured lebron?… top tier trolling at its best.. i love kobe but i’m not anti lebron.. i rock with b ball in general
That USA scrimmage where Kobe showed LeBron whats up says it all for that comparison. He dodged guarding him and then Kobe shut him down when his coward ass got the ball thats why he deferred to Prince for the last shot?
No Lebron is not the most complete player, Mike is. Mike has 10 scoring titles, Lebron has 1. Mike had 200+ steals in a season 6 times and led the league in steals 3 of those times. Lebron has never had 200 steals in a season or led the league. Mike had back to back seasons with 100+ blocks, and averaged 70+ blk a season as a guard & made all-def 1st team 9 times. Lebron a forward has never had 100 blk’s in a season, and averages less than 60 blk’s a year for his career & made all-def 1st team 5 times. Mike (SG) had 10 seasons with 100+ offensive rebounds playing with no def 3-sec rule or charge arc. Lebron (SF) only has 4 such seasons playing with both rules in place his entire career which kept the paint cleaner. 6 assists per game career is #1 all-time for SG’s. Mike averaged 5.3 apg career regular season, 5.7 apg career in the playoffs, and exactly 6 apg career in the Finals. He was also one of the best passing SG’s ever. And when you put that all together it is clear that Mike was shooting/scoring, rebounding and defending at level Lebron literally never has, and while the edge in passing goes to Lebron, Mike’s passing numbers are as good as it gets for a SG. He (Mike) is the most complete player ever.
The most interesting thing about Lebron falling out with people in the media is that these pundits start switching up their perspectives completely. You'd think that these pundits would keep similar stances despite the fall out. Has Charles Barkley after shit on Jordan after they fell out?
Fck choosing 4 my top 5 is Magic, Bird, Jordan, Kobe, Duncan. As the man said I saw them with my own eyes. There is no g.o.a.t as all era's were unique. There is only best in their times..... and even then that is tricky at the best of times as what do you choose ability? results? etc.......
Yep! I agree. I’ve seen all that you’ve seen also plus LBJ quitting numerous times and not getting back on defense. Too busy complaining and having a tantrum instead of getting back on defense and discussing it with the ref later. JS.
never understood all round player for LBJ... Doesn't have much of a bag, shooting outside of three feet isn't his thing, rebounding avg, Defense LBJ was a great off ball defender but that was his early years and has never been a shutdown defender and only got worse with age. So what is his all-round play passing? So much more to the game that others played so much better
Hnstly if u got James over Jordan your either a kid or you have a biased towards Jordan but either way I wont be able to take you as a serious on nba topics
Sad part is, certain media and Bronsexuals also go around saying that dude the 2nd best player of all time 🤦🏾♂️ That's disrespecting so many other NBA players. If you say dude barely top 10, they get mad but don't say Kobe or anybody else the 2nd best player 🤷🏾♂️ they might kill.
Why do people keep saying that Jordan said Kobe is the only one that could beat him? He didn't even say it "tongue in cheek" because he was in no way serious. It was just a set up to a joke that Kobe stole all his moves. Do ya'll think Jordan would ever say someone could beat him one on one?
Such a poor take when people say “LBJ is the best all round player” 🤦♂️ There’s TWO sides to the floor. LBJ does not play D, secondly passing the ball doesn’t mean you’re “all round”…
Charles, YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ABOUT Jordan BEING THE G.O.A.T. Kobe is a Distant 2nd but the 2nd best I've ever seen! I'm 51 and have been watching this game since 79 or 80, so I'VE SEEN SOME GREATS! LeMercenary ISN'T EVEN TOP 10! Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Olajuwon, Wilt & Russell WERE ALL BETTER THAN LeBum and I COULD ACTUALLY KEEP GOING! LOVE THE CONTENT! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
I heard a LeBron fan boy make a comment that resonated with me…
He said he can explain everything he’s ever seen LeBron do on a court, but his brain couldn’t comprehend half the things he saw from Jordan videos…he was in disbelief.
MJ 🐐
i watched a gen z br@ns@xual clown as he watched one of the videos about mj (the mixtape); couple of the plays he looked like he couldnt believe what he was watching
then he had to keep rewinding and watching again saying "that looks fake; i'm not saying its fake but ..." as he watched it again
there was no goat debate after the 2011 final
that was clear
Even Isiah Thomas had to admit Jordan did some freaky shit on the court......like he was an alien! LOL
@@irissanders7487 AND U BELIEVE IN MARBURY WHO TRY TO SUICIDE IN LIVE TV ?? WHAT THAT MAKES YOU THEN TO BELIEVE UNSTABLE HUMAN WHO ALSO LOST GOLD MEDAL TO GINOBILI WHILE HAVING SUPERTEAM
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It should be Shaq vs Bron to be honest
I saw MJ live in Chicago in person vs Phoenix and saw his and Lebron’s entire careers. Watching MJ’s highlights still amazes me till this day. Dude was an alien and sometimes I’m like this can’t be real and I saw all of his games.
Jordan made more then half the NBA now players use Jordan moves while wearing Jordan shoes and his jersey #23.
Nick wright is the starting point guard for the trailglazers 😂
Trailglazers is crazy 😂
Like I always say, you don't see this BS in boxing, football, baseball, golf and the list goes on. Only basketball allowed such a foolish, garbage ass phony debate, to go on as long as it is. Sad to say, it still going on which makes basketball media to me. The worst media EVER, in sports media history.
Which is directly attributable to lebron paying them to say these things. Theyre all klutch people. LeBron himself did this.
@@toasty862 ssttopid
I read your comment using Skap Attack's cadence. It fits.
Goat debate wasn’t really a thing until LeKlutch media brought it up.
Never hear anybody downplay jim brown competition, when ppl voice he's the best RB
LeBron fans 'think' he's the G.O.A.T.
Basketball fans 'know' it's MJ.
Dumb and untrue comment. It's probably not worth proving it to you. You obviously don't know how to verify your facts using a Google search
@ScottRachelson777 How many out there wearing LeBron 's... case closed.
@@ScottRachelson777I’ll say this. Jordan fans will always side with Jordan and lebron fans will side with lebron. For neutral fans like myself, I have Jordan over Lebron.
I go by law of averages. Just like in life, luck falls in your favor but bad luck happens too. In a large sample size it probably evens out. Jordan winning more titles in fewer years is the main thing. If Lebron wants to take the mantle, he has to either win a 4peat or win 7 rings with 7 mvps.
I’ve heard all the arguments but concluded an argument for Lebron has a counter argument for Jordan.
Jordan has pippen. Lebron has wade, bosh, kyrie/love and AD.
Jordan has Phil. Had lebron won more titles with Spo and lue they would be legendary too.
Jordan had a better gm. Lebron started player empowerment and klutch sports mafia.
Jordan had weak opponents in finals. Lebron played in weaker east to make all those finals appearances.
If you say Lebron took cavs team to finals I would say yes that was impressive. That only proved to me Lebron had a better start for his career than Jordan. But once you get talent, I expect you to win.
I’ll give some other goat examples from other sports. I’m a big Montana fan. When Brady won his fourth ring, I still had Montana as the goat qb. When Brady won his 5th against the falcons with that crazy comeback I crowned him the goat. In tennis, I was a sampras fan. Then Federer took over the mantle. Now it’s djokovic.
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these gen z br@ns@xual cultists are laughable
i saw one on a youtube video saying that the video didnt change his mind AFTER saying "i didnt know jordan was like this/like that before watching this"
so wait--- you literally ADMITTED there are simple things you don't even KNOW about jordan but had ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU MADE THE VIDEO that lebalco is better?
this is the level of "intelligence" you're dealing with in general whenever you debate a br@ns@xual
GOAT MJ Yesterday, Today,& 4EVA, he's in a class by himself, with the Late Kobe Bean Bryant being the closest to him!!!
AND U BELIEVE IN MARBURY WHO TRY TO SUICIDE IN LIVE TV ?? WHAT THAT MAKES YOU THEN TO BELIEVE UNSTABLE HUMAN WHO ALSO LOST GOLD MEDAL TO GINOBILI WHILE HAVING SUPERTEM
Michael Jordan Will Always Be The GOAT Over LeBron James Period
Facts!!!
Damn right bro. He created the modern day NBA we have now he was the first player of that calibur. I was 6 in 84, and I knew who he was at that age because the way my uncle and cousin regarded him.
LeBron fans are getting so desperate that they know the public will never accept him as the goat, they are now threatening people😂😂😂
And so will Kobe
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The REAL ones know. Sir Flop A Lot didn’t even surpass Kobe, unless you’re counting the senseless, meaningless, very questionable scoring title, where he used the Lakers to wear one of their uniforms to break it in. 🤔
"Sir Flop A Lot" 😂😂🤣😭💀 ...his pussy's on Broadway
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I call him laflop but sir flop a lot is good Your Airness the 🐐🐐🐐
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@@THEREALLORDJ That’s exactly what I think about this fake debate!
My top 5, MJ, Kobe, Kareem, Magic and Bird
My top five Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird and The Dream.
@@iig2310 KOBRICK WASNT EVEN STARTER FIRST 3 YEARS HE ALSO HAD SHAQ SINCE DAY 1 WHILE BRON HAD GIBSON. U MUST BE DERANGED. LEBRON NEVER ABUSES SOMEONES DAUGHTER IN MOTEL THAT COST LIFE HIS GIANNA
Obv you don’t know basketball so i would stop talking
No you don't @@nsant2321
My all time starting 5 WILT, KD, HAKEEM, MJ, LEBRON… can all defend, run the floor and create own shot, pass
Any top 10 without Hakeem isnt valid
👏🏾THE REAL NUMBER ONE!!!
I Agree !
Agree
I agree you got to put dream in the too ten
Any top ten without Tim Duncan isn't valid. So if Tim is there over hakeem that's fine.
You left out the part where he said Kobe is better than lebron. He said it seconds after you stopped it.
We know and most players agree mamba is just better than bron. Mj then Kobe facts
@@alkebulanlion6198 yessir! couldnt have said it better myself
Jordan Dominated the Game in every aspect!
SHOW ME 25 RPG AND 10 BPG AND LEAD NBA IN APG LIKE WILT DID ?? ILL WAIT
Only 1 guy dominated game thats Wilt Chamberlain. I dunno in what aspect Jordan dominate when Rodman defended Shaq Rodman grab most RPG, Pippen led Bulls in defense APG SPG . Basketball jhave 5 major stats Jordan failed in 4
@@uarethegym4428 So Did BILL RUSSELL with his 11 NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS
nick wright or shannon sharp will be dogging marbury tomorrow
Especially Shannon sharpe boy does he get in his feelings
His fans are emotional Mama's boys that were raised by single mothers, it's just sports in basketball, people don't have to have him in their top five, we live in the real world not in a cult
@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm just like you
@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm big cry baby, posting about your king Lebron 🤣🤣
This is why it’s important to get the perspective of players that played in both eras that Jordan and Bron played in themselves. Starbury played at least 6 NBA seasons while Bron was playing and played at least 4 seasons when Jordan was playing.
Yea and some guys who played with both have lebron over mike
@brianharron3435 those guys are on the klutch payroll.
Never thought in my lifetime that people are delusional enough that they put someone to GOAT status with a lose record… not ALI, not Gretsky, not Federer, not Tiger.. obviously not MJ or Kareem. Its not even for a debate..
YEAH DERANGED SO WHY U THINK JORDAN BETTER THAN WILT OR JABBAR ?? SHOW ME 25 RPG OR 10 BPG
Or Brady
Jabbar wasn't even the best player on the Lakers 😂
I watched s video a few hrs ago with Nick Wromg saying the '92 Dream Team was overrated and the '24 team is better. Totally laughable 😂😂😂 'The '92 team was basically 1a and 1b at all 5 positions on the court.🏀🏀🏀
Michael Jordan never had to trade his teammates to be great he elevated his game and his teammates
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@@THEREALLORDJSo running around trolling is your way of defending Bron huh lil Bobby? Lol
@@TruthSerum99-zq9fi 🤐🤡
They brought in better teams lol
@@brianharron3435 Bron has teamed up with enough superstars to fill an all-star roster and still can't turn a team into a DYNASTY because he still LOSES most of the time anyway.
Bron has had the most coaches fired and players traded in NBA HISTORY and still LOSES most of the time anyway.
Bron has teamed up with enough superstars to fill an Olympic roster and his fans still say he only loses most of the time because he still needs more help.
Maaan FOH with all these damn EXCUSES, Bron just ain't Jordan 😂😂😂
MJ impacted the game globally
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Lebron has too but this is why the debate is stupid Jordan is older so of course Jordan has done things before Lebron has because of age
Only clowns think lebron the goat
I think thet just say that to piss people. Anybody who believes he is the GOAT is delusional.
Charles boy Marcellus Wiley says Lebron smh lol
@@Juju00462 and people who don't believe in math, 4-6
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@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm razzistt
MJ is not the G.O.A.T. over LeBron because LeBron IS NOT the 2nd best player of all-time. I believe that Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Bird are ALL DEFINITIVELY BETTER than LeBron James and an argument can be made for a few more players. MJ is the G.O.A.T. and LeBron's is not even remotely on his level.
FACTS!!!
Obv you don’t know ball so i would stop talking
@@nsant2321 Grown folks are talking in here boy, so mind your manners and respect your elders. 😀
@@O.J.S. says the guy who says magic Kobe and bird are better than lebron 🤡🤡🤡
@@nsant2321 I believe in stating facts. 🙂
".... basically twerking it up, running through the woods with their torches, hollering and screaming."😂😂😂
Grew up as a Celtics fan when Antione Walker and The Truth were there. When the Celts played LA and the ball touched Bryant’s hands at a big moment there was a feeling of dread because you knew what was going to happen before it happened. With Lebron you were shocked that he hit a bug shot. Intangibles are what make legends… not stats
CAUSE KOBRICK WAS WIDE OPEN BECAUSE OF SHAQ WHILE BRON PLAYED WITH GIBSON. ALSO KOBRICK WASNT EVEN STARTER I KNOW NOWQ TYHAT U NEVER SAW ANTOINE WALKER CAUSE EDDI JONMES WAS AGAINST WALKER NOT KOBRICK.
"Running through the woods with torches" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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@@DREAMERSPRO TELL ME DERANGED WHERE IS KOBRICK AND GIANNA ?? WHY U BELIEVE WHAT MARBUYRY SAY GUY WHO TRY TIO SUICIDE. UI SAW MARBURY LIVE PUBLIC SOCIAL NETWORKS TRY TO SUICIDE YET U CALL BRON SOFT. LOOK PPL I TAGGED UNSTABLE RUclips CHNNEL OWNER
Jordan and Lebron aren’t in the same conversation. This new generation focus more on empty calorie stats .. Lebron stats are empty, Caitlin Clark stats are empty. I don’t care how popular you are .. if you don’t have the fkn titles .. how you a goat with no college championships (cc didn’t win no championships with lowa) or your first championship was on the back of another champion? (D wade)
Yeah empty stats should never put you in a GOAT debate. That's like Dak Prescott putting up big numbers after falling behind by 3 TDs in the 1st or 2nd quarter. Then trying to make a comeback then the defense are playing prevent. Yes he put up 300 plus yards but you were down by 3 scores.
@@rdogletree4543Dak is definitely a empty calorie stats guy. Smart tho .. esp when you trying to get that big contract.. but he ain’t gonna win shit 🤣
@@sagiterrorist1211 Yes and a lot of fans don't see that, they only go by the box score and end results. Now he did have a great season last year but that hasn't been the story of his career.
it is insulting to compare someone with a losing record in the nba finals that played in stacked superteams against the GOAT that is Michael Jeffrey Jordan
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YEAH BECAUSE HAVLICEK 8-0 IN A ROW IS GOAT. ITS INSULTING TO COMPARE GUIY WHO QUIT LOAD MANAGE EVERYTIMEAND STILL HAVWE LESS RINGS THAN GOAT JOHN HAVLICEK
My son just sent me a global pole in over 80% of the global population have Michael Jordan as the standard,, his emotional fans can keep getting on the Internet arguing opinions it ain't going to change a damn thing
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What happens once everyone who saw MJ play die tho? While Lechoke and Klutch "media" keep up their relentless smear campaigns?
Facts Epsn did one last month and mj won by 79 percent crazy mj is him
@@alkebulanlion6198 absolutely bro, it's not a debate, it's Michael Jordan than everybody else
I got wilt and Bill above him
😂😂 they runnin thru the woods now??😂 settin forest fires gotdam 😂😂
He's been saying this for years. I'm glad he's Been relentless with this
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A LeBron fan told me in a debate that Jordan ain't the only player that went 6-0 in the finals lmao 🤣🤦🏿♂️ but Mike my goat I'm 39 I saw his first chip getting over the hump in the Detroit to the final shot in utah to the his 2 yrs in Washington
MJ is the best ever and I hated Jorgan, I'm a Sixers fan, Barkley is my fav of all time
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@@WillieBowen-o2nI think he said Barkley was his favorite player. Didn't say anything about chips
He's a letard fan @@rt1878
The goal of playing at the professional level is to win, win convincingly, win accolades, and to dominate..Jordan has done that, and so has bill Russell, slight difference is Jordan has more accolades,bill has more chips.but anyways winning is the goal
ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER 4 LEBRON VIDEOS! THRLOCKERROOM WAS RIGHT LEBRON IS THESE GUYS DADDY
that LABUM JAMES are nowhere on my list
Can’t believe this is even a conversation still
Jordan is the GOAT hands down with Kobe a respectably close 2nd. The only problem with the Marbury endorsement is it comes from a person who eats Vaseline for breakfast and therefore it may not carry a lot of weight with the LeBron fan boys who may want to discredit him for that reason.
A lotta ppl eat Vaseline, a lil more education will show you that it can be used as a laxative
Can't wait till LeBron retires.
Got 3 more years to make you mad haha
@@brianharron3435they all say that but can't stop talking about the man 😂😂 they are addicted to talking about someone they don't like..never seen anything like it b4
For a person who dislikes Bron so much, why is the majority of your content has to have Bron name in it? Great narrative pushing.
Why do you keep watching?
Jordan, Kobe, Bill Russell, Magic, Shaq, lechina.
Missing a few, tbh. lebalco is farther down
West, Barry, Thurmond,and Jabbar
You can't be the best all around player if you don't put in the same effort and have equal affect on the other side of the ball in my opinion. 🤷🏾♂️
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So here's the problem with Marbury's assessment (which he's wrong on by the way).
LBJ is not the best all around player he or we have ever seen, it's MJ. Unfortunately , like Marbury most of us did not get to see MJ play LBJ's role of Point (forward).
MJ was however, during Doug Collins last year (the last 24 games of the season I believe) asked to play Point Guard and these are the numbers he produced:
13 triple doubles in 24 games his averages during this span of time was the following:
39.8 minutes a game.
30.4 points (LBJ averages 27.1 in a much softer league), 9.2 rebounds (LBJ averages 7.5),
10.7 assists, (LBJ averages 7.4) 2.5 steals LBJ averages 1.5) , 0.9 blocks (while 3 inches taller LBJ averages 0.7) , FG% 49.8 (LBJ averages 50.6 he also finishes at the rim more often in his career), 3P% 27.3 (LBJ 34.8), FT% 88.8 (LBJ 73.6), Turnovers PG 3.8 (for reference LBJ averages 3.5 per game).
When asked to do what LBJ does regularly< MJ was superior in most of the categories: Points, rebounds, assists, steals, Blocks, FT%.
So we need to stop with this narrative that LBJ is the best all around player we've ever seen, he's not, he's just the one that we've seen do it most often.
Just in case we got doubters, this information comes from Statmuse:
www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=michael+jordans+stats+in+the+last+24+games+of+88-89+regular+season
Charles, your list is similar to mine I think:
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Kobe
Magic
Duncan
LeBron? Bird? Hakeem? Shaq? Russell?
MJ
Kobe
Tim D
Magic
Shaq
Olajuwan
Steph
Kareem
Bird
Lebron
My top 10 based on what I saw growing up.
This argument is so dumb, this debate made so money for these pundits
i witnessed Queen LeDiva mastered the art of Flopping...🤣🤪😂
Lebron at 6 or 7 is crazy. I agree MJ is the greatest ever but that’s easily Lebron slander to have him that low. We can’t play the titles game exclusively.
outside of these trolls real ppl that know basketball knows that lebron is definitely top 3… and i love kobe… but my favorite player which is kobe has lost a 3-1 lead and has been swept in a few playoff series just like lebron
@@treyb5477 it is entertaining but this dude gets on camera and with a straight face just be lying 🤥
@Chicity87 facts!
@@Chicity87plenty players lose series bro that’s not the standard. It’s when you get to the final dance what did you do.
@@Prodydworthy585 naw you right bro that’s why i never considered lebron to be the greatest kobe is my favorite but mike is the goat to me..but to say lebron 6 or 7 is wild
One doesn't need to eat $hit to know what it tastes like, Charles, nor does one need to have played in the NBA to know what GOATage looks like. Keep up the good work brother.
"The best all around player" yet he has the most Finals losses while having the most help 🤦🏽♂️ its bs.. How is Jordan not the best all around? He's the best 2 way player hands down, dude had ZERO WEAKNESSES, how is that not the best all around? 🤔
I'm going to say the top 5 ; Jordan, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Wilt.
LBJ is in my top10. But my top5 Best Player( no best resume) list is filled with MJ, Bird, Kobe, Magic and Hakeem. They had it all.
KOBRICK WASNT EVEN STARTER FIRST 4 YEARS IF BRON HAD PRIME SHAQ DAY 1 HE WOULD WION 9 RINGS IN A ROW
Damn I really miss the old Dreamerspro… But congrats on 200K. Even though i don’t like content anymore, you have to respect the Grind.
Michael Jordan will be my Goat. I got to see this man play never give up and he was a winner.
Retired twice haha but ok nice one
Not much to say...MJ is undisputed the GOAT
my list
1. jordan
2. kareem
3. kobe
4. magic
5. bron
6. duncan
7. russell
8. bird
9. wilt
10. shaq
i liked how he acknowledged jordan as the goat but still gave bron his flowers. alot of folks dont want to do that and i know its difficult dealing with the bronsexuals and nut huggers. its harder when bron be on his bullshit tryna control the narrative. but i choose not to indulge in the foolishness. for me, bron eliminated himself from the goat debate when he got outplayed by jason terry and jj barea in a finals series. so the highest he'll ever get is 4 or 5.
But didn’t Kobe get swept by jj and jason terry in the playoffs that same year
@@jb5146 yep but kobe wasn't getting locked up by them two. The lakers just got their ass kicked. Bron had 8 points in a finals game. And literally was a no show in 4 straight 4th quarters. It was an all time collapse. And ive seen kobe lose in the first and second round and the finals but he wasn't that bad. Not even close.
Before the Championships it has been noted that Jordan seemed nonhuman in the presence and I witnessed it from afar with his unnatural ability to play basketball.
Jordan was just that different and Wemby if he stays healthy is going to be one of the same caliber players.
about time someone telling the truth KD's closer 2 Jordan thin LBJ is and KD is still far away
That's true
One day we will move on from this debate.
MJ all the way.. but, people forget or don’t know that Magic Johnson was the only player that could successfully play any position
Magic never actually "played center", tbh.
One of the greatest myths in sports is that Magic Johnson played center in Game 6 of the 1980 NBA finals.
It never happened.
He *jumped* center and that was basically it.
Magic jumped center against Caldwell Jones of the 76ers, and also guarded him for the first few minutes.
However, the 76ers also started Darryl Dawkins.
He played center in their offense, while Jones, an offensive zero, played forward.
Dawkins was guarded by Jim Chones, who started at center and played the position at both ends of the floor the entire game, except for the times he was spelled by Mark Landsberger.
The only time Caldwell Jones played center for the 76ers was when Dawkins was not on the floor.
However, Magic never guarded Jones during these times--Chones or Landsberger did.
And Magic never guarded Dawkins at any time in that game.
No offense- Jordan taught Kobe all he knew yet KOBE LEARNED WELL!!
Yeah prime Wade, LBJ, Melo, we're all up equally, and if we being honest, Melo, n Wade were better!
Michael Jordan is the clear and undisputed GOAT until further notice.
I'm a Michael Jordan fan.
Got Jordan at 1, and Bron at 8 or 9, but when you watch Kareem vs Doc 1v1 it will make you consider the 1 on 1.
Jordan versus Kareem, Wilt, or Bill Russell might not go his way.
Team wise Jordan is #1
LeBum isn’t even top 50. WTF you smoking?
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This guy talk only about Bron, damnnnnn !!!??
#MJDAGOAT #DaReal23
i've been an nba fan since 1969. i was never a jordan fan. i didn't like him when he entered the league, thinking "he's just a flashy ball-hog". then i hated him because he constantly killed my knicks. but it became very clear, very soon, that he was on a different level. once he matured on the court and allowed himself to be coached, i realized that he was the best player i had ever seen, bar none. and he only continued to get better, even as his athleticism started fading. in my mind, mj is far and away the goat of basketball. or at least, so far. and i am not buying what the wemby-coming-for-jordan cult is selling. at least not yet.
G. O. A . T. JAMES has over 4 0 , 0 0 0 points ENOUGH SAID. 💯
That part(6:17) I couldn't have said it any better myself👍...We witnessed all these players play.
6 or 7 is too generous Charles for LeBron to be on that spot 😂😂😂 but no one is disputing your list ✌🏽coz the last time I commented on one of your previous videos that he’s not even on top 10, a war started on the responses 😂😂😂
Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time period
I'll sign 40yr old Marbury over brony
1. JORDAN G.O.A.T.
2. KOBE
3-10. DEBATABLE
I grew up in a Lakers household, my dad and his friends would be so loud about it, always had the A.M. going with Chick Hearn over whoever was on TV. By the time the Bulls beat the Suns, my dad couldn’t hold it back anymore, he said Jordan is the best, excitedly. And then all my friends that are Lakers fans, had their admissions that Jordan is the best, over Magic, over Kobe, over Shaq. And that is hard for homers to say.
He was legit in the running at some point. Then came the endless excuses and no accountability.
Let’s not forget handpicking his own team and coaches and then he and the media blame everyone but him.
Now we have shifted from winning titles to breaking records as the measuring stick for the G.O.A.T debate.
Will I would be the GOAT as well if I played 20 years, maybe half the season each year, and had BALCO helping with my nutrition.
lebron vs kobe head to head 16 to 6..but kobe tortured lebron?… top tier trolling at its best.. i love kobe but i’m not anti lebron.. i rock with b ball in general
That USA scrimmage where Kobe showed LeBron whats up says it all for that comparison. He dodged guarding him and then Kobe shut him down when his coward ass got the ball thats why he deferred to Prince for the last shot?
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No Lebron is not the most complete player, Mike is.
Mike has 10 scoring titles, Lebron has 1.
Mike had 200+ steals in a season 6 times and led the league in steals 3 of those times. Lebron has never had 200 steals in a season or led the league.
Mike had back to back seasons with 100+ blocks, and averaged 70+ blk a season as a guard & made all-def 1st team 9 times. Lebron a forward has never had 100 blk’s in a season, and averages less than 60 blk’s a year for his career & made all-def 1st team 5 times.
Mike (SG) had 10 seasons with 100+ offensive rebounds playing with no def 3-sec rule or charge arc. Lebron (SF) only has 4 such seasons playing with both rules in place his entire career which kept the paint cleaner.
6 assists per game career is #1 all-time for SG’s. Mike averaged 5.3 apg career regular season, 5.7 apg career in the playoffs, and exactly 6 apg career in the Finals. He was also one of the best passing SG’s ever.
And when you put that all together it is clear that Mike was shooting/scoring, rebounding and defending at level Lebron literally never has, and while the edge in passing goes to Lebron, Mike’s passing numbers are as good as it gets for a SG. He (Mike) is the most complete player ever.
LeBron has never been & never will be the GOAT OVER MICHAEL JORDAN! Stop this chit talk people! 🤦🏼♀️🤬🤬🤬🤬
AGREED! I dont understand why ppl think anyone lives on planet MJ but MJJ!
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The most interesting thing about Lebron falling out with people in the media is that these pundits start switching up their perspectives completely. You'd think that these pundits would keep similar stances despite the fall out. Has Charles Barkley after shit on Jordan after they fell out?
The 🐐 debate ended after MJ was done playing and I say that respectfully. All of the Lebron talk is contrived.
This makes me laugh because I remember when Stephon used to go on Jordan rants on how much he hated Jordan but now all of a sudden, he’s a Jordan fan.
Its the duty of the fans to choose who the greatest players are not the media
great analysis Charles...nothing but the truth!
Fck choosing 4 my top 5 is Magic, Bird, Jordan, Kobe, Duncan. As the man said I saw them with my own eyes. There is no g.o.a.t as all era's were unique. There is only best in their times..... and even then that is tricky at the best of times as what do you choose ability? results? etc.......
Nailed it... Stephon Marbury is not a Jordan fan, in fact... It's the opposite, he wanted to beat him.
Yep! I agree. I’ve seen all that you’ve seen also plus LBJ quitting numerous times and not getting back on defense. Too busy complaining and having a tantrum instead of getting back on defense and discussing it with the ref later. JS.
Jordan. And kobe
never understood all round player for LBJ... Doesn't have much of a bag, shooting outside of three feet isn't his thing, rebounding avg, Defense LBJ was a great off ball defender but that was his early years and has never been a shutdown defender and only got worse with age. So what is his all-round play passing? So much more to the game that others played so much better
Hnstly if u got James over Jordan your either a kid or you have a biased towards Jordan but either way I wont be able to take you as a serious on nba topics
Sad part is, certain media and Bronsexuals also go around saying that dude the 2nd best player of all time 🤦🏾♂️ That's disrespecting so many other NBA players. If you say dude barely top 10, they get mad but don't say Kobe or anybody else the 2nd best player 🤷🏾♂️ they might kill.
Why do people keep saying that Jordan said Kobe is the only one that could beat him? He didn't even say it "tongue in cheek" because he was in no way serious. It was just a set up to a joke that Kobe stole all his moves. Do ya'll think Jordan would ever say someone could beat him one on one?
Lebron is really at best top 15
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This why I didn't join to prove your point. Steff said I feel
Such a poor take when people say “LBJ is the best all round player” 🤦♂️
There’s TWO sides to the floor. LBJ does not play D, secondly passing the ball doesn’t mean you’re “all round”…
It really is a sham people keep on pushing us thirsty RUclipsrs need views ,
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I remember watching Marbury and Shawn Marrion when I was a kid and they always put on a show
I don't understand why Spud Webb is never brought up in these discussions
Charles, YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ABOUT Jordan BEING THE G.O.A.T. Kobe is a Distant 2nd but the 2nd best I've ever seen! I'm 51 and have been watching this game since 79 or 80, so I'VE SEEN SOME GREATS! LeMercenary ISN'T EVEN TOP 10! Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Olajuwon, Wilt & Russell WERE ALL BETTER THAN LeBum and I COULD ACTUALLY KEEP GOING! LOVE THE CONTENT! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!