It's so heartbreaking it's come to this. I used to be one of the main SSO defenders back in the day, I didn't understand why the people were so ungrateful, however, what really opened my eyes is how they threw away the lore and their lacking customer service. SSL was guiding me through a big part of my childhood, and I still love playing it to this day. The games still have suspense, magic, continuity and I still find them eerie in a good way. I couldn't believe my own ears and eyes when watching the "Making of Lisa" video. How was Lisa's backstory vague? And how could they think they're the only ones with the right to know the characters, when the characters had been existing for such a long time? I also hated the fact they laughed about Lisa's original hair, how they wanted to place her into the 21st century. Guess what. Some people STILL wear short spiky hair. On the other hand, ridicule is nothing to be scared of, and I actually perceive most of the "updated" characters as completely new characters. I feel incredibly bad for Helena for putting her heart and soul into the Soul Riders books, only to have the whole story shattered to pieces. It's pretty obvious the company has become too money hungry, while being unsure of what direction it wants to take and then changing it all the time. But you've summed up all the problems and concerns in a very organized and respectful way I just wanted to express what bothered me so much. I do not think rude comments will help the company, but this is constructive feedback, which they literally ask for. And the fact that more and more people are seeing things this way is definitely not a coincidence or us being spoiled. I think the game will go on for quite some time, but I feel like it has lost it's heart. Thank you so much for creating this video, hopefully, more people will see the company doesn't seem to appreciate the community as much as they think.
thank you so much for the comment! what you said is exactly the type of thing i want to hear. although it is heartbreaking, it is important for people to see the game as it is so we can give constructive criticism! I was the same way back in 2016 to 2018. If anyone was "ungrateful" for the game, I would rush to defend Star Stable. But at this point, it is clear that the game has changed and needs to get better before it is too late!
I’ve been playing this game for nine years. NINE YEARS and I have NEVER in my life logged onto such a dead server during the Christmas events. I know this is a lesser concern, but they completely destroyed so many events that so many people who were at the endgame looked forward to. Not only that, but completely scrapping the backstory and characters??? That was pretty much my breaking point. My childhood was built on this game and the story/characters. Watching it become ruined is so disheartening.
My mom spent so much money on that game. It used to be so good, I would play for HOURS. Now, the last time I played was like 3 months ago and it was only bc my cousin begged me to. It's not the same anymore.
with the swimming thing, it is very unrealistic because horses are very good swimmers and yes, they have a limit, but they can swim for at least 6 minutes at a time. But we can only swim for 2 seconds in the game :/
we even have fish horses. they could've added natural boundaries like buoys or something so we can't go out of bounds, but they just gave us fish that cannot swim
What's the point of giving us cool sea horses if we can't even go into the sea with them? Would have been cool if they were the only horses who could swim and possibly even dive to add like an underwater world to the game.
Ikr everytime I accidently fall in the water I always say it makes no sense because horses could swim in real life. Horses are big they swim and are really good star stable has to make their game more realistic or it won't be fun for anyone.
EVERY TIME somebody in this community shares the reality of the game, the bugs, management, y'all start defending star stable instead of telling them to FIX themselves. They make 44 million last year but can't fix their game? They obviously don't care about us. So why are you defending them?
Exactly. Years now I said it'll became like that if they kept not caring more about their product. And I was just called "ungrateful" - it was the nicest word- and impatient. Well, looks like I was right and Jojo was the start of the bad updates.
I watched the while thing in one sitting. This is an amazing video that really captures everything that has gone wrong in this game. Thank you for putting it together. Let's hope that they'll hear us one day.
I have had time to think and I do agree with everything. I'm very stubborn to agree with people. But you all are right. I mean Rattle, Ginny O, Mia... I hope this game gets better. We do need something to do not just training.
I believe this too. Atm, there are no other horses games that truly compare. Sso is the largest MMORPG Horse game. None have even come close to having most the aspects star stable does. And until someone is riding alongside sso gamewise, that’s not going to happen. There are tons of games, but they really aren’t as good. They’ll have horses and no quests, or horses that are very ugly looking and bad game design.
The bugs problem absolutely terrifies me. As someone who uses SSO as a comforting place to go when I'm upset I can't even imagine losing all my horses. My best friend and I roleplay a lot, so our horses have personalities, and I am attached to most of my horses. I would be so upset if I lost them.
As a SSO player that cares about the story, the characters and the amazing fictional world of Jorvik and Pandoria as a whole, i feel betrayed, players like me are the most neglected in this community, SSO only cares about making the players who like realistic horses happy, and it makes me so sad, there is no story anymore, only cute horses
Yeah! I love realistic horses! But I wish there were more story to the game. It seems every update is horses or stuff for the horse, or some event with horses. I can’t see any quest updates often!
This game has been going downhill for a long time and it's gonna collapse by all the stupid decisions the team has made. It went so bad that playing it now feels like a completely different game. There is apsolutely no endgame and they don't even try to change it. Almost every update is directed to new players. Here is a quote from their latest instagram post: "Without the glittering fun of this year’s winter festival of friendship, life in Jorvik might feel a little less cheerful. We don’t want the January blues to get you down, so we’re giving you 30% off on both Pay Once and One Month Star Rider!" What about players who already have pay once sr? The only thing they added in december were new horses. And one new race this month. Next wednesday update is also new horses. This is disgusting. I don't know any other mmo that disrespects their old players that much. Something changed around the time mistfall came out probably there was a change in staff or something. They are so money hungry and it shows.
I just don’t think the company is entirely money hungry, they still do care lots about us, and just going to say that they don’t only give us things like horses so that we buy them and give them money, but also because we like the horses too. But I get what is being said, and they do need to change. Also sso ain’t going to collapse any time soon…
The team isn't bad. This is the company director, who makes decisions etc. This is his bad, he is the main money hungry man, unfortunately. The team is suffering from him too, because they just can't say that everyting is on fire, because the politics of the company forcing them to be always positive (Rattle made video about it) and that is so sad, but if u say something "bad", you are going to be outcast in the whole company... Don't blame team of developers. They just making their job, following orders :(
I'm quite literally sobbing. You've just put everything into words. It's all coming back. I used to love this game as a kid and I've been playing less and less and you've just explained why. So many things I've forgotten, the bus, the shitty reindeer, the grunting and breathing sounds, my gosh I miss it all. I just want to go back.
Thanks for the shout out! It's good too see other people starting to talk about the issues with this game. It really doesn't feel like even 50 people are working on this game 40 hours a week. It's sad, and we don't want it to "fail." For it to not fail, they really do need to work on the game itself (story fetch quests at this point, they should also add more game mechanics) and put in less horses and less stand alone races because they don't advance the game.The video for the stats of mine is "The More I Dig, Pt 1." In short, the game has 21 million registered users and as of May 2021 has 663K active monthly players. That's a 3% active playerbase which means in traditional game terms, the game is technically dead already and being carried by the whales who buy star coins every month. So, NONEWHORSESSSO22 and DONTBUYHORSESSSO22!!
As much as I hate to say it, you are completely right. I remember playing Starshine Legacy with my sister 7 years ago, I remember when I started playing SSO and how much joy it brought me. This story, these characters, this little world and just everything in this game still means a lot to me, so it's really painful to see it all shatter to pieces. I guess all we can do now is raise our voices and hope that SSO wil hear us soon.
Unfortunately the shareholder problem is most definitely the catalyst causing all these quality issues. We’ve seen this with EA. Basically, the more profitable and successful a company seems to be, the more and more money gets invested into it by shareholders. In other words, star stable is no longer managing their own game, shareholders are. The profit that Star Stable makes gets presented to shareholders to prove that their company is worth investing in so that Star Stable can grow. If Star Stable doesn’t show their shareholders that their company is growing or making a consistently large profit, they will stop investing. Shareholders aren’t inherently bad, it’s only when they start to control the quality of the game that problems start to arise, not only for the game, but the whole company. Again, this gives off the sims vibes where the sims 3 was pretty well received but sims 4 was a disaster to say the least because EA continued to get greedier to impress shareholders causing quality to be an after thought. It’s a shame really, but extremely common in the gaming industry.
At this point I'm not even going to send SSO game update requests. I'm scared they'll ban me for having a good idea that would benefit them and the players both at the same time- :)
I watched the whole video. As an older player I was planning to make a comeback to the game as I've not played for a few years, but my heart breaks to see how downfall the game has gone. I truly miss the time when we had to make certain effort in the game like the bus as you stated. Mostly why I think I lost the fun in the game was when they started updating the graphics around the areas. Just my personal opinion ofcourse, but it all seems to change to be much more cartoony, part of the reason why I miss the old days. It had a different vibe to it. And then they begun to add the horses more and more and my wait and hype for the mainstory to continue just faded away. And hearing now how it doesn't even make any sense... there's no point for me to log in. I can only hope for them to make a massive step towards better at this point...
I have been playing SSO for 10 years, and I'm saddened to hear it's going the route it is. I really do hope they will end up listening to the players feedback and actually add more content. Currently playing while listening to this and I can't ignore the bugs popping up. From the sky switching from day to night, to trees without textures... :// I adore this game, I really do, and it would be a shame if it went down the way it's looking.
You put all of my worries into words. It’s really sad watching how this game is ending. Sso used to be a big part of my life but now i play it once a month or something, and the only thing i do is buying and training old model horses (because i can’t stand new horses). This game doesn’t make sense anymore
wholeheartedly agree with every point made in this video. for personal perspective, i stopped playing this game for almost 2 years. i logged back in recently with the announcement of the mobile app and i’m barely entertained, and was absolutely SHOCKED by how little had even been added into the game story-wise. i was expecting to come back to a huge immersive questline and was met with a few badly animated cutscenes and boring dialogue that was hard to follow and feel apart of. i hope they tend to the dying plant that is this game now, as it has enormous potentional
i’m also adding here now incredibly bugged the mobile experience is. you can barely move in your stable on foot, if you touch the settings your controls are wiped from the screen, the buttons are so tiny you always press the wrong one, chats show notifs and there are none, half of the interactions are missing that you would get on pc, and more
it's nice to see someone put all of this into words. i've been playing star stable online for 10 years, since i was 8 years old and i was always invested in the story - especially after playing starshine legacy, i was excited to see pandoria in sso and how the story would go on from there. i always wanted more story quests to keep me entertained in the lore, but in like 2015/2016 i used to hear that "if they added story quests regularly, the game would end too quickly" but now? i disagree. there's so many different plots related to the lore they could focus on, they could tell us more about garnok for example, or some info about the ufo (i sometimes tend to forget it's even there!), i'm still waiting for ashland to see what garnok's fury is hiding... or the ice witch (?) in hidden dino valley. or the kallters, the area behind the big door. it's disappointing and saddening to watch how they're going down with this game, forgetting about endgame players and doing nothing to prevent this. it's nice to see redesigns and new looks of the characters, the game has to go forward, but.... i miss the vibes that were in 2012-2014 with the story quests, the old soul rider's models and such
I had like a whole essay prepared but it got deleted so I wanted to say: Thank You :) It is so important to get this out no matter how hard it is to say it especially in a documentary a whole hour long. It is amazingly said and prepared, as well as all the people you credited.
This is so well thought out and well edited. I sent this video to Star Stable via email in hopes that they will see it. Standing up against star stable is like walking on water at this point, but I love this game and don’t want it to die. We’ve got to somehow get their attention.
I hope you said in the email WHY you sent it, and WHAT you want to have changed! If they see a 1 hour video, they probably won't care to watch it unless they have a reason.
@@MiaTheGamer This was their response. Just the typical automated message. Hello, Thank you for contacting Star Stable. We love hearing new ideas from our players! We work hard all the time to create new and exciting updates for the game, and we get tons of ideas from our fans... Sometimes up to a thousand different emails every week! This means that even though we always read all your mails and sometimes even pass the best ideas on to our Game Studio team, we can’t promise that every idea will be made into the game or that we’ve always got time to send you a personal response. It’s amazing to have awesome fans like you who care and send in their ideas, and it's always really cool to hear what you think! Thanks again for writing to us! Best regards Juan StarStable Support
I've personally experienced the backlash from the SSO team when I tried reporting a bug... I didn't get my account suspended like the person in the video, but I was scolded harshly for knowing about the bug which came as a shock to me as... ANY other game that you report bugs in, the developers are usually very accepting and thank you for the report. SSO? Nope. After that incident, I decided I wouldn't report or send them any more feedback emails as they choose to do nothing and are extremely ban happy to their lifetime players. Screw you SSO.
i like the fact you brought light upon the star coins. personally, i think the star coins are extremely overpriced for a horse game (especially when its dedicated to younger audience)
I used to LOVE this game so much. Roleplaying and doing quests were my favorite thing. Once I got to the point where there were no more quests storyline quests, I stuck to roleplaying for a while, but slowly lost interest. Every time they would come out with a new horse (which was every few months back then) , I would buy the star coins for it (because I always spent all my star coins on clothes and tack.) Now when I work up the interest to play a new story quest, it is really boring and usually last 30 minutes or so, and most of it is a race or collecting stuff. The story isn't even interesting anymore. Roleplaying is quite boring now, since most of the serious role-players stopped playing, and they come out with horses every few weeks that I don't even bother buying star coins anymore. I don't even get time to save up.
To those who says the game wont end : if enough players quit and not enough new players join, the company will lose their money and eventually they will close. Companies that arent doing well and dont make enough money there is no point for them to continue. Thats just pure fact. Mia you did a great documentary! If I had one wish it would ve that they continued with the old main story not changing it. If the lore book was a physical copy then obviously it will go missing sooner or later since its a big compny with many employees! If its digital form on say a cloud platform everyone could access it!
a mistake sso makes is that when theres a bug, they remove how the bug happens, not fix it. the fashion barn for example, instead of coding it so you cannot enter while ‘in the mall’, they removed the fashion barn completely
And that didn't even fix it- people used the cottage in Mistfall instead so removing the fashion barn, a fun feature, was literally pointless because they couldn't put the effort in smh
Funny thing is. The less there is to do and less new quests. The less active players get. The less active players get, the more Star coins they save up every saturday, which eventually goes down to not having the need to buy Star coins when you need something, Cause you’ve already saved up what you need from being inactive
I think the problem with Global store could be solved by just making into a catalogue. Just like you have in Stardew Valley for example! It could be useful for players who don't really enjoy running around the whole map to find this one specific thing they want. They could just check into the catalogue, see the price of the item and where it's sold. There could also be a check-list implemented or wishlist of the items you'd like to buy.
ive never been a star rider except for the free couple days, and i honestly always felt somewhat resentful because i can/could never go to places i could the day prior, or get new horses or ponys. like i remember one of the quests REQUIRED you to have a pony to play it, yet im playing the game again and suddenly im able to do that quest now. i didn't know about all the issues, but im glad i learned. i want to keep playing, i just hope that they get their stuff together and ACTUALLY listen to the fans and players.
What I'm the most pissed about is the fact that the lore is inconsistent. I legit do not understand why they're deliberately going back and changing the story when they had soooo much room to just go forward from what already existed before. They did not have to ruin it. Seriously, what does it cost them to just continue doing something coherent with what was already there?? I don't understand, it feels like actual sabotage.
I play this game since 2012... and its really sad to say that the game was BETTER then as it is today. I still play it, idek why, maybe I still have hope. But it's really sad. I used to play with friends, guess what... all of them quit. Everyone I knew and liked quit playing this game. Why? Because it's boring. I asked everyone and all of them said it got boring. Now I used to think I got older and that's why the game's boring but this video changed my mind. It's not the age that makes it boring... it's the game in general. I used to LOVE this game with my whole heart and now i really wanna quit. Now I didn't quit just yet because I still have a club that I care about but let's be real, the all, the WHOLE club just comes online to meet each other and then everyone goes offline again until the next club meeting. I always knew that sso was somewhat of money hungry but it's really bad. Like really really bad. I will quit, probably very soon- It's just really sad how I used to love this game and now the game is just empty and it's really no fun anymore. There's no good story anymore, yes there are many side quest, but let's be honest, what for? They are so boring. For example: The new quest on Marley's farm, why did they do it, when the could've done a part of the main story line. It's just sad. I'll quit playing this game. At least I'm not going to buy anything anymore. Imma log in for my club but that's it. Thanks for making this video.
I suggest that when quitting, send a message to star stable through their custumer support about why you are quitting and why you don't want to spend money on them. that could wake them up i think. they dont care about us until it hits their pockets.
@@MiaTheGamer Yeah, will do. I really really hope that we can somehow safe this game since it’s been a really big part of my life but if it keeps going on like this then well. Anyway thank you for taking your time and making this video, I hope sso will notice and rethink their action’s.
My hope for this year is that after the big character update is out of the way we will hopefully get more content within the game rather than horses, horses, more horses, a race, a 5 minute quest that comes with the race, and occasionally a few clothing items that aren't anything special. I've been playing since...maybe early 2015? I'm level 22 (close to level 23) and have been waiting for quests that last longer than a few minutes and that give us a good amount if xp. There is such a lack of content in this game and you sort of get stuck once you reach about level 20. Progress feels slow and the game feels repetitive. Yes there are a few things you can do in the game, but it gets old very very fast. The only things we have to do are; chores (lame), training, reputation, talking to people, and championships. A game that is as popular as Star Stable is, they need to keep the game fun and interesting for the players. They're really only just focusing on gaining money, but where does all of that money go? We aren't seeing anything new and from what I've heard, the employees aren't even being paid very well for all of their hard work. If Star Stable keeps at this awful way of "progressing" their game they're going to lose more and more players as well as money. Maybe that won't happen any time soon, but if something doesn't change then that's the path they're looking at.
Everything you said was right on point. I don't see them living to see 20 years. I just don't, not going down this road they've started. It's an awful reality that everyone in the SSO community is going to have to accept. Not everyone will, of course. But it's something everyone should definitely be prepared for. It breaks my heart, even though I've only been playing since late 2018. Unfortunately, that's right when the problems began, so I've been here since the beginning of "The downfall" so to speak. It's human nature to ignore the people that really matter when money gets involved. All you see are the dollar signs, instead of what truly needs to be addressed. That's exactly the case with SSO. They've found ways to manipulate us and bend us to do what they want. It's only been getting worse as time has went on. With the floods of new players coming in, that's when they really get bad. The older generations of SSO are irrelevant to them for multiple reasons. 1.) We aren't as hyped about the game anymore because we've finished everything, so we aren't their main money makers anymore. 2.) As a new player, everything is new. So you want to buy everything and experience everything. Which of course generates revenue for SSO. 3.) We don't buy Star Coins as often as new players do. Most of the older players are adults or have jobs to make their own money and don't want to spend it to buy Star Coins that cost $20-$65, when we could spend it on more useful things. And because they only focus on the new players, Old players get bored and therefore quit. This has been an ongoing battle since 2018, and it's only gotten progressively worse. I don't see them ever hearing our cries. At least, not until it's too late and the game comes crashing down on top of them. *It takes a mistake to learn a lesson.*
It used to be so much fun when new horses were released once in 3 months. It used to be an whole event where everyone went online and bought the horse and got new tack for it and after that go back to doing quest.
58:06 is a huge worry for me. I started this game in my early 20's and now I am in my 30's. I paid for the game back in 2012 thinking it would be developed like any other game. I never thought it would take TEN years to finish the bottom part of a map and get an ending to main quests. We aren't even finished....expecting people to hang on in actual years for something that's supposed to be entertainment is INSANE! I've been thinking about leaving this game for the last few years and now I am convinced I should. They continue to keep going downhill and there just isn't any content anymore to keep someone engaged-definitely not someone whose been in the game as long as I have been. I feel ripped off and upset. I paid for a product and haven't even gotten that product yet....the main story was all we had back then when I paid. That and a promise of a game, well, a game has to have some type of content...this is nothing more than an online auction of the highest bidder for the fashion show of horses and the new hottest "who's in this week" show. I feel like I went to bed with a game and woke up with a freak show. If I am brutally honest. I stay to help people, but honestly, I'm slowly watching myself drift away. Takes longer and longer for me to come back in-between these "breaks".
Great video! You put into words a lot of the things I have thought of and noticed throughout the years. Been playing since 2012 (I was 14) and played the games before that as a kid. I miss the mystery of the storyline, the realism of the horses and the game as a whole. I'm so sad to see "my" amazing horse game being ruined like this, it genuinely makes me both sad and angry.
I have been playing this for 6-7 years now and I loved it in the beginning. I was obsessed. It's so sad to slowly realise how everything is going downhill. The game has SO much potential, if the right people worked there, the game would be a hundred times better. Players are still waiting and we have gotten a few more main story quests now but I always feel scared after finishing a main story quest because...when will the next one come? In a month? A year? Will it ever come? When will a new, bigger, area open up? The game has so much potential and I really, really hope someone can save the game, if only the right person finds Star Stable and purchases it or something...but we all can dream
For the bugs! A lot of times I will put on a bridle/saddle or something similar; it won’t even go on. It disappears from my inventory, isn’t on my horse, can’t be seen on the character sheets, and is never seen again.
To all the people who are saying that Mia is wrong, please listen to what Mia is saying: She is saying that there is a POSSIBILITY that Star Stable COULD end. It is not a fact that Star Stable is going to end. The purpose of the title is to speculate the POSSIBILITY of the game ending and the reasons why it could. If the game was in fact ending, there would be no question mark at the end of the sentence, "The End Is Near?"
@@Avakinlifeforlife I am not trying to be mean to Mia. I am actually defending Mia because she has gotten a lot of hate comments saying that Mia wrong.
The amount of money SSO gets when new horses arrive is insanity. They won’t stop this sort of model (bringing new horses to the game), until it stops being profitable for them. I personally feel they want as much profits from the game as possible. I don’t think people understand how much they actually earn with each new horse model released. When people stop purchasing every month on new horses, they will either have to change to bring people back to their game or they stop developing and let it die naturally like most online games end.
this video was amazing, thank you for giving players a voice. i could be mistaken, but i’m sure i heard that someone was given or bought part of star stables company, and this is why we don’t have any other celebrations anymore, we were extremely lucky to have the halloween event last year. notice that, last year we got barely any in game events, such as st.patricks day, valentines e.t.c! i agree with everything you’re saying, i’m not very active on sso nowadays, however it’s so dismissive and kind of offensive that they’re forgetting about their older players, it feels like they draw you in and once you’ve spend so much money on the game, they move on and draw more people in, rather than focusing on what they can improve and listening to what we want for the future, they just seem very dismissive of older players who have been on the platform since the beginning. it’s so frustrating that they don’t give a shit about us, they don’t listen or try and fix the problem, they again dismiss the issue by permanently suspending players, or reassuring players that things will change, but they never do. but yeah, i’m not sure how true it was, has anyone else heard anything about this?
yes, they are falling to pieces, i can’t exactly speak for them but if i’m being honest i don’t think they care about the game as much as they should. it’s so frustrating and offensive of them to just forget about us, they always find a way to blame you for the issues you’re having in game, they can’t own up to theirselves, i honestly do hope that they eventually do something about the game, because at this point the game is only just hanging on, it’s not going to be long before they have to end the game for good. and it’s such a shame because i truly believe that the game has so much potential, it’s just frustrating that they are choosing to ignore our concerns and demand for the game.
I've been playing this game for 8 yrs now. I didn't rlly think about it b4, but wow. The fact that this game would still b considered beta + not even HALF of the map of jorvik is unlocked yet? It's so disheartening :( I've tried to quit SSO but I just can't cuz it's literally my childhood game...it's so sad to see this happening...
I forgot to comment on this yesterday, but you did an excellent job on the documentary. You hit every point when it comes to the whole game. If SSO doesn’t wake up and stop only looking at positive shit they’re going to lose more players. I wished they understood why we make videos on these topics and why we speak up so much on insta or Facebook or RUclips😕
I honestly agree with the missing lorebook. Does anyone remember Jon Jarl's cave thingie with the spirit of Jon Jarl? Well remember in that cave it had an entrance to a deeper spot but it's blocked by a stone with an element hole. I think everyone here only got past by the sun stone..? Anyway, what happened to that quest? Did they just forgot about that cave? Cause the lore about it was way more catchy then the dog water quest at fort maria with Beatrix
I've never really thought about it since I wasn't interested in the wild horses, but sso could've easily done something similar to how we came to own Spirit - find the horse we wanted, build trust and eventually offer them something like we gave the apple to Spirit. I cannot tell you how exciting it was to plan out where to go just to see Spirit back in the day. All they had to do was recreate what they did back then and the only explanation I can give for why they didn't is because they can't be bothered.
You are so right. All your points were very valid. I am also so worried this game will end soon. Btw love your videos. I'm on Frost Valley two maybe I will see you run bye.
I have been playing starstable for at least 10 years now and it is all so sad what this game has come to. It was my favorit game and I loved it with all my heart but now everyting I paid for, that made the game magical, is gone.
41 : 25 Yeah I agree with you lol, Lisa was literally like the main soul rider with the most old-game content about her. She also had the coolest powers and even her horse's name was literally in the name of one of the main series.
You have some very good points in this video, I am tired of filler updates and not enough quests, however I think that for the time being everyone bringing up the issues needs to relax a bit. Brining up the issues in the game is VERY important for the game development (this isn’t directed at anyone) however I have seen so many comments being blatantly disrespectful and absolutely awful to the team, ESPECIALLY the social media team which please please bear in mind the social media team can’t do much but report what U don’t like to the management to please they to be kind to them! I think that going forward we should phrase things in a certain what while giving constructive criticism (not hate) is say things like - I didn’t like the update this week because it was very … (lackluster, simple, not much content included) because … (it was a short quest, it was just a race, there were only clothes to buy) next time perhaps you could bring in content along with items so it’s well spread out (or whatever you belive they should be doing )
Any comments that are on this video that disrespect players or the game developers will be deleted! I do not support hate speech, and I believe everyone can share their opinion as long as they do it KINDLY. Multiple people so far have name-called other players instead of being respectful. I understand that the social media team can only take our comments and send them over to management- but that is the problem. The management doesn't listen!
I also just realised, basically real life Dark Core has taken over SSO. It’s like people who understand this situation is like Greenpeace against the whole world and climate change, roughly said. It’s definitely not the best to swallow and stay quiet, this should be taken seriously. Spread and petition.
As sad as I am to hear all this Ik it must be said the amount of change the game has gone through is unbelievable and unfortunately I can’t say that they were good changes😢❤
This is so sad. I never thought they would go this route. I was a big fan of the original storyline and I even collected the starshine legacy comics. I wasn't a big fan of the updates of different areas but I could tolerate it, but now when they messed with the storyline and the main characters, they made a huge mistake. This game is nothing without the original story!!!! You're definitely right about there not being as many players anymore.
I really agree with you. I'm posting your video on groups about sso, but many players are just like "XD, its only game for child, if you dont like this game just stop playing". But i see that are another player, who really see the problem of this game and thats make me happy. I love your channel and good luck on yt
thank you so much! a lot of people who say "if you dont like it, leave" are people who dont want to admit the game is falling apart. but i think the more you hide the truth, the more it becomes obvious.
I feel the same way, even though I've only been here since 2020 i have watched sso earlier than that. And you're absolutely right, the game isn't growing. Almost every week we get new horses and its annoying. It annoys me because I can't buy star coins, and new horses keep coming which I can't buy. I keep getting excited for a update that's not horses, because it doesn't make a difference for me in the game when we get new horses, that I can't buy and it's just the same for me
I’m. Really. Scared. Um, I’m only 20 minutes through (I have to go eat dinner) but on the bright side of things.. this is really well done!! This is like a professional documentary great job!!
I was scared when you said you stop receiving your weekly allowance after 2 weeks of absence. So I logged in. And. I. Didn’t. Get. My. Allowance. Since last month. The last time I played was in Christmas. I should have around 5 000 sc but I didn’t get all of it, I missed 300sc… that kinda rude tbh. Really great video, soooo relatable, so true, absolutely well made. Thank you❤️
YOU DESCRIBED IT PERFECTLY- I love how you put all of the videos together and talked about all of the problems. I totally agree with you. I really loved this game, played it for quite a while and I don't want it to end in a trash bin, because I feel the sentiment for it and people remembering the game as the "not ended" one or the "bad" one would really hurt me. But it needs to stop. . They need to start working and taking it seriously. Thank you for making this video! And other creators, that you gave credit to! People need to see what is happening and not defend star stable blindly Thanks one more time (Also it was really nice to listen to this video while doing my math homework lol)
I was waiting for someone to say this. Also when doing Steve's race, there's and an invisible wall when you're about to turn while in the field. Josh's western race (opponent) is broken for me and has been for months. I think Star Stable fell apart when Stacy Place started playing, to be honest I haven't liked her since the beginning. I never cared for her content. I just didn't have a good feeling about it. Star Stable seems to no longer care about their players, which are who really keep the game alive, and instead care about the shareholders.
The funny part is, I somehow haven't experienced any of this. Yeah and remember they said racing updated, 3 years later, what do we have, the same racing. Also remember the black glitch line on the horizon and the bugged reflections in water. Fantastic.
Well said, although I've been playing since late 2016, seeing this happen to the game that I used to adore is genuinely heart-breaking. I used to revolve my whole spare time on SSO, getting excited to play it. Now I haven't played in months. It's very disappointing to see this happen to the game.
I have no words to say how thankful I am, that you dare to say all of that, that you took the time for this video... all you said was so on point and matches the reason I stopped playing I started playing in 2013, and yes with time you play less, but NO you shouldn't be deleting a game bc you actively want to forget about it, tired of how it has turned out, feeling seriously disrespected, not listened to... Nowadays, a 60€ game shouldn't treat their community like that. You said it all... It's just sad we all know they won't listen, but still... THANK YOU ^^
@@MiaTheGamer oooh boy, I would lie if I said I am surprised haha. But I guess as soon as you state an opinion and stand by it, you will get criticized and hated on. But you didn't send hate to SSO or anything... You stated facts in a clear, concise, and respectful way... I can only imagine the work behind it. Haters will hate (mostly in the darkness of private messages), but the comments I saw here sound thankful and approving of your video, and I think they are a more accurate image of what the majority think. I really admire your courage because if people like you don't speak up, then there really is no hope to get heard or to ever see a change. Thanks again :)
This just came on my feed and I’d like to point out that officially, I think we’re at our third or fourth main story update of the year. That has GOT to be a record
I’m just so sad about all of this. I am a pretty recent player and haven’t even had the game for 10 months yet and am already quite bored. I was sad when I reached level 5 and there were just no more quests.Then I was so incredibly excited when I bought lifetime star rider because there were a bunch of quests and things to do! And then I finished the main quests. I was confused and sad as to why there were just reputation blockers left. Now that I’ve explored what feels like every inch of the game I feel as though all I can do is plan what horses to buy next and do daily quests to finish planting a garden or get a reskinned horse (rune runner from soul riding). And I just feel bad at the prospect of becoming inactive because I spent $75 on this game when there’s nothing to do. It’s like Horse Riding Tales all over again
I've been thinking this for years. I actually remember way back in 2012 or so when the game looked like crap and nobody cared, because it had horses! And a cool fantasy story that you got to be a part of, with new chapters being added regularly like a comic book! That was what captivated me to begin with. That's what the game used to be about, just like Starshine Legacy before it. There was a real sense that the people working on the game knew how to combine creativity and storytelling with profit. It's been heartbreaking to watch SSO become so much more sophisticated and beautiful (I love the Gen 3 horses and Wildwoods is a work of art) yet completely lose track of what made the game good to begin with. It doesn't matter how good I look while doing stuff in the game if there is nothing to actually do! Without anything to do other than spending more money, there's a vital piece missing. That quirky charm and intrigue it used to have has been polished away. What's left is an underdeveloped, overly polished, impersonal, soulless, and creatively braindead tool of corporate bloodsucking.
This video has voiced exactly what I've been thinking to my self for like 4 years now! I joined in 2014 when I was 12 years old and at first I loved it... I was disappointed at the time that I had to pay to access the majority of the game, but at that point it was worth it! There were hundreds of quests and things to do so I was never bored (the only boring thing was building up reputation, which takes way to long in my opinion)... Fast forward about 2 years, I'd completed most of the quests and was already getting bored with what the game had to offer, so I messaged SSO to see if they had any intel on whether there would be new areas or new story quests coming out any time soon as I was bored as hell, and they pretty much replied with the same thing every time "don't worry, big things are coming in the near future!..." yeah right 'rolls eyes in disbelief'. Fast forward another 6 years to now, all I have left to do is stupid, repetitive reputation building quests which I have been stuck with for years (like the fishing quests), they bore me to death and make me want to quit star stable all together! But then I think of all the money I've put into the game for monthly star rider (I changed to pay once about 2 years ago, so thats about 6 years worth of monthly payments), and thousands of star coins... Star stable used to put the players first above all else, but now all they care about is new players and more money... It's honestly heart-breaking... I really hope things turn around soon, otherwise I do agree that there's not a whole lot more that SSO can bring to the world of horse games... :(
I also haven't payed for anything on SSO pretty much since I payed for one time star rider... I don't care if it means I miss out on stuff or have to wait for my star coins to slowly fill up (or not fill up at all in some cases). SSO is not worth my time or money until they actually put out semi decent content that benefits the older players that have been loyal to the game for nearly 10 years, instead of focusing on just bringing more and more new players in!
I'm from germany and I played Sso a long time. I am older now and Its so heartbreaking to play this game. Everything changed and a lot of player are gone... Idk how to start but I really miss the old time there everyone was at the disco or the time there you met cool people at 2 am and made amazing memories.. Some things are really cool but a lot of things are just breaking my heart..
dies ist schlecht mann ;-; wie viel jahr du spielst dies spiele? es ist langweilig jetzt? ich habe nicht spielen sso für... 6 jahr?? ich spiele dies wenn ich war 9, ich bin 15 jahr alt jetzt (es tut mir leid, meine deutsch ist nicht perfekt, ich komme aus ungarn und ich habe lernen deutsch für zwei monat 👁👄👁) edit: auch, ist (oder war) sso groß in deutschland? ich sah viel volk sprichwort sie komme aus von deutschland und hat spielt sso
Theoretically, a player could start playing SSO in they're first year of highschool, graduate, start college right away, work towards they're masters degree and graduate. Meanwhile, Star Stable Online is trying to run backwards against the clock while it keeps ticking. Time waits for no man, but SSO doesn't know that None of this matters anyway because we have to be patient, right? We have to be grateful, Right? I am both deeply frustrated and very sad. I started playing in 2015. This game was my secret place. It was a was one of my most played games. My only hope is that if and when the game goes down, it might end up in the hands of the players who who really care about that game.
exactly! a lot of players even have their own babies now... and that freaks me out because these players were able to go from kids to parents due to how long this game takes to grow.
i just stumbled over this and i'm relatively new (playing since 2019), so i never understood why my club leader (joined around 2011 or something) was so frustrated over every update and event that was new and exciting to me. i didn't know that the game is supposed to have such a huge map! also as you say, if you play through the main story it doesn't take long - i needed 6 months (incl. druid training) to finish the story. after that i started grinding collectables (stars, spiders, donkeys..) and reputations. i didnt finish it all til today cause its boring at some point and now i catch myself getting horses, train them to lvl 15 and repeat that. about the horses: i mean its nice to have some new ones and updated ones but even as a new player i'd prefer that in a slower pace and get more quests instead. i also miss how the horses had their specialites like cold tolerance and all. i'm also fine with the lower stats on a horse with the lowest care, cause it makes sense that the horses are less motivated, so i hope they keep that. i'd wish for some antics on green horses, some little hops, head shaking or sudden temper like getting faster or slower for a few seconds. i didnt mind the stamina either, pretty sad that they took that out as well..
i feel so bad for players that started so early in the game- like 2011 - 2016. because those years were the prime of star stable really, since every update was so well crafted. now everyone i know who is an older player has quit or still plays, but knows for a fact they arent going to keep playing for much longer :/ a lot of times i think that a lot of players know about the old map, but actually many dont! so i think it is so cool that you mentioned you hadnt known? i feel like if more players knew about that then they would tell star stable to add the rest of the areas. it has been 10 years xD
I would like to mention that I've only been playing for a year and a half and honestly I'm in the same situation as all the old players. Nothing to do except daily grind.
40:39 THIS is exactly what I thought when I first played the wildwoods quests with the herds! My bestie didn't agree, but like come on.. It's literally a re texture warrior cats with a few changes. The herds don't mix apart from when they gather at the tree (I think it's been a while lol), (Ahem warrior cats, gathering every full moon, only time the clans can meet) Plus, one of the herds are literally called warriors.. (smaller nitpick, but still hmm) I don't really feel like the wild woods herds fit into sso either tbh? Maybe it's just me and my far back place in the main story quests lol, but from what I've seen horses don't really.. Talk.. That much in sso..? Plus, they're much too anthropomorphized for sso in general. Our horses have been horses all this time, yes every now and then you could talk a word or two to them, but they remained horses. And now we get wildwoods: they live in little stick houses, talk to humans and eachother every minute of the day in english/generally human language, have a completely different social structure (ahem literally humans) than real horses, wear jewelry and ornaments relating to their herds, have baskets somehow (I'm guessing the chipmunks make those because.. How..).. Don't they literally trade with eachother? They even have carrot fields where they grow carrots, like farm crops! I mean they're a great idea, but they just don't feel like sso to me..?
no for real you are so right. it is literally not for sso, but it could be for another game. but i think because so many players do warrior cats roleplays in the global chat, that star stable saw that and thought it would be a good idea even tho it is a let down.
@@MiaTheGamer wait people do warrior cats roleplays- How have I missed that haha. I definitely think you're right though, not just because of the rps but just generally because of how incredibly popular warrior cats is (is especially becoming right now..?), it seems just like them to copy something popular for the money. This is more of a quick idea, but I would have loved a more realistic wild horse herds thing? Something a bit more mysterious without talking horses, something more like the kind of bonding thing everyone wants, but with wild herds. Something where you'd need to help the herds survive somehow and gain their trust? Maybe save a horse from getting captured/save a horse that was stuck somewhere and go through a slow process where you and the horse gain eachother's trust, maybe the horse and you save eachother somehow, and eventually you return it to it's herd. Like that you'd start a series of similar quests with the wild herds. Definitely something that has more of that majestic and mysterious feeling you get when you think of the classical wild horse concept (you know, spirit for example.) with maybe some magical elements incorporated. I feel like that could have been a lot more sso, had they put in the effort. An actual magical horse adventure as they call it. Sorry for this long rant haha :,D
@@fireeagle5525 That is actually what a lot of players wanted. When SSO advertised the Jorvik Wilds, they even said "bond with the horse!" so a lot of us thought that we had to actually put effort into the herd. They can put the effort into the game, since Star Stable has the money and employees. They just dont want to.
In around 2009 or 2010 i stumbled across the SSO website. "Horse game coming soon" "apply to be a test rider" "horse game for girls" and i was hooked. every day after school i went to the website to see if it was out. A little over a decade later and the only reason I'm in this still developing game is my club. Its sterile and lifeless. My old childhood passion is now just stocks. And i don't expect it to change.
normally i’m training my friends horses, so i’m using plenty of emails everyday - however just yesterday i tried to log into my main account with the right email and password, but smh i logged into my friend’s account without even using their email. it’s crazy how i just logged into their account without even typing their info in.
I actually have an account that got all it's quests reset including the tutorial where you get the items for caring for your horse (I lost these items from my inventory) and my 2021 free birthday horse is gone but I still have items from the 2021 Christmas and birthday events and the account is on level three. I suspect that some of my data has beel lost but the sso customer service is trying to gaslight me into believing that my memory is the only issue here and nothing has been lost or reset because there's no data of the horse or quests being done and the sso database is extremely secure so my problem can't and doesn't exist (because they're obviously lost)
Pure truth. I agree with all of this 100%. It is sad to see a game that was once played with enthusiasm, willingness and joy collapses. It does not develop the further story, nor does it develop the game world. I remember when I joined, I was just enjoying the opportunity to explore. I did as much as I could, and I could sit for hours in each new area. It was similar with the plot. I have a great fondness for this game, I spent many hours playing it and the thought of how it breaks more and more makes you feel sorry. The scenario of its ending is unfortunately sad, but very possible. :
I feel like sso has list all it's magic. Maybe it's also because I've reached endgame, but all the mystery, the lore and so on aren't continued. (We also need more endgame content)
I have been playing star stable for 11 years (as of 2024) and star stable has really gone downhill over the last few years. i love the game, dont get me wrong, but the way that sso only cares about putting out horses and not giving quality content is absolutely insane to me. sso said at one point that horses are the reason that people play, and while i think that is around half true, i think the CONTENT is what drives players to join and buy star rider. getting star rider is the only way to complete the main story quests or even buy the vast majority of horses that are coming out. dont even get me started on the bugs and glitches. it sometimes takes up to 2 years MAYBE 3 to fix a tiny bug. some bugs make it impossible for the player/multiple players to play the game. some bugs even ruin the sso realistic roleplay community. i cant even imagine how stressful that is for them to make videos with all the bugs going on. they even removed some of my favorite events. christmas, valentines day, and halloween especially. i can understand wanting to include other winter holidays besides christmas, but as you said, why not give everyone the oppourtunity to learn about the different holidays. halloween was always my most favorite holiday on sso because there was always so much to do. and it wasnt just grinding, because the fact that just about all quests in events are grind. we had to grind for soul shards in halloween, grind for winter wishes (whatever theyre called (i never play during sso winter anymore) and there is no valentines event anymore. i also loved the fashion week (which isnt a holiday) and how raptor would come and sing. in fact, jorvik city mall isnt even used anymore. over the last 4 years i have never seen people there and when there are people there it is to do a quest then they immedietly leave. its so sad. also, i love how sso is going for a more "realistic" approach but wont take out all the magic. and to be fair, the og sso had some realistic charm. more than it does now, imo. i love sso but their way of only responding to positive comments on instagram is insane to me. the toxic positivity is wild to me. someone said something about not complaining and THE sso acount replied saying "fr though". tldr; sso is declining rapidly.
I know right, it's crazy. As another og I've been playing season riders and it's so nostalgic, NO paid currency, affordable and nostalgically prehistoric horses, and actually somewhat challenging. It's crazy that their game was better 15-20 years ago than it is now.
All your points are valid! This is why a lot of players have gone over to other games like Wizards, Genshin, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2 to "take a break" or "wait" on SSO to release more interesting content. Even the other games come in giant patches every few years with tons of new content to explore! It'd be nice if SSO could do giant chunks at a time instead of baby steps and just aggravate everyone.
dang this is my third comment but you keep bringing things up that i forgot about hahah, yeah lisa is supposed to be a rockstar, she was in SSL, but after they updated the soulriders she’s more like a country singer, basically they changed her whole personality
Hi Mia :) this is the first video i see of you and i have to admit, that i mostly agree with you. I myself am a German player and therefore I’m on the German servers. as far as my opinion is concerned: i've been playing sso since the end of 2014, so quite a long time. it is clear that a game develops over time (it has to) and thus the players develop, too, you get older. i just like to remember the old days when new horses only came every four weeks and when you could generally look forward to wednesdays updates. when epona came out, the silverglade championate came out and when there was still snow. at the moment they are putting out a lot of horses and little content, which is a shame. Of course they need sources of income, without them a game can't survive, but so many horses are bugged and the gaits are simply copied. it's a great pity and it's just boring. so I only come online for club meetings. they even took out the christmas events or valentine's day events. even the original map is so big. they could make so much of it, but they don't. I really think it's a shame that they've degraded such a great game in such a way. maybe this is due to the lack of competition, since sso itself is the most successful online horse game. Thats just a part of my opinion, but these are some points i criticised at the game. As I said, it’s my opinion :)
It's so heartbreaking it's come to this. I used to be one of the main SSO defenders back in the day, I didn't understand why the people were so ungrateful, however, what really opened my eyes is how they threw away the lore and their lacking customer service. SSL was guiding me through a big part of my childhood, and I still love playing it to this day. The games still have suspense, magic, continuity and I still find them eerie in a good way. I couldn't believe my own ears and eyes when watching the "Making of Lisa" video. How was Lisa's backstory vague? And how could they think they're the only ones with the right to know the characters, when the characters had been existing for such a long time? I also hated the fact they laughed about Lisa's original hair, how they wanted to place her into the 21st century. Guess what. Some people STILL wear short spiky hair. On the other hand, ridicule is nothing to be scared of, and I actually perceive most of the "updated" characters as completely new characters. I feel incredibly bad for Helena for putting her heart and soul into the Soul Riders books, only to have the whole story shattered to pieces. It's pretty obvious the company has become too money hungry, while being unsure of what direction it wants to take and then changing it all the time. But you've summed up all the problems and concerns in a very organized and respectful way I just wanted to express what bothered me so much. I do not think rude comments will help the company, but this is constructive feedback, which they literally ask for. And the fact that more and more people are seeing things this way is definitely not a coincidence or us being spoiled. I think the game will go on for quite some time, but I feel like it has lost it's heart. Thank you so much for creating this video, hopefully, more people will see the company doesn't seem to appreciate the community as much as they think.
thank you so much for the comment! what you said is exactly the type of thing i want to hear. although it is heartbreaking, it is important for people to see the game as it is so we can give constructive criticism! I was the same way back in 2016 to 2018. If anyone was "ungrateful" for the game, I would rush to defend Star Stable. But at this point, it is clear that the game has changed and needs to get better before it is too late!
I love your vids and I hope it will be fixed
I atill play star stable and I think it won’t end I bet it is fixed
I mean still typo
But I love your videos
I’ve been playing this game for nine years. NINE YEARS and I have NEVER in my life logged onto such a dead server during the Christmas events. I know this is a lesser concern, but they completely destroyed so many events that so many people who were at the endgame looked forward to. Not only that, but completely scrapping the backstory and characters??? That was pretty much my breaking point. My childhood was built on this game and the story/characters. Watching it become ruined is so disheartening.
My mom spent so much money on that game. It used to be so good, I would play for HOURS. Now, the last time I played was like 3 months ago and it was only bc my cousin begged me to. It's not the same anymore.
Don't even get me started on the CHRISTMAS EVENTS...😭 the Christmas update sucked
Me to I hate there ruining the game
Its type of server u chose, They made all the servers to low or high, It depends how popular the server is..
@@Sky-jl6iw the server I stay on is night star.
i totally forgot about the horse sounds! i remember back in the day when you reined your horse on to go faster and they breathed heavily or grunted
i have no clue why a HORSE game would remove that. like what even rip.
they still do that ;-;
@@MiaTheGamer they still do it
I completely forgot that's gone since when?
@@chuuya5873 I think they removed it in 2019
This is why I respect my parents. They know a greedy company when they see one. They never let me buy star coins- honestly I don't mind.
Many parents aren't aware of the state of a game- especially Star Stable since most of this info is hard to find!
My husband is against buying sc. Because I already have too many accounts. I have to learn to save sc.
ayaka pfp, do they let you buy primogems? just curious
Your parents are clearly intelligent
with the swimming thing, it is very unrealistic because horses are very good swimmers and yes, they have a limit, but they can swim for at least 6 minutes at a time. But we can only swim for 2 seconds in the game :/
of course! i also mentioned the swimming ad for the akhal teke horses... the horses we have in game cant even do that. it is very misleading!
we even have fish horses. they could've added natural boundaries like buoys or something so we can't go out of bounds, but they just gave us fish that cannot swim
What's the point of giving us cool sea horses if we can't even go into the sea with them? Would have been cool if they were the only horses who could swim and possibly even dive to add like an underwater world to the game.
tbh I think they just wanna use the water as a boarder without looking weird BUT LIKE just add a boarder that becomes visible as u come close :/
Ikr everytime I accidently fall in the water I always say it makes no sense because horses could swim in real life. Horses are big they swim and are really good star stable has to make their game more realistic or it won't be fun for anyone.
EVERY TIME somebody in this community shares the reality of the game, the bugs, management, y'all start defending star stable instead of telling them to FIX themselves. They make 44 million last year but can't fix their game? They obviously don't care about us. So why are you defending them?
True
Update, this year they made 118 million
@@RimFaxxe 118 million? What the actual frick
@@VibingMeike exactly my reaction
Exactly. Years now I said it'll became like that if they kept not caring more about their product. And I was just called "ungrateful" - it was the nicest word- and impatient. Well, looks like I was right and Jojo was the start of the bad updates.
I watched the while thing in one sitting. This is an amazing video that really captures everything that has gone wrong in this game. Thank you for putting it together.
Let's hope that they'll hear us one day.
Thank you! This took a long time to edit and put together! I wanted to try to include everything i could find really wrong with the game.
I have had time to think and I do agree with everything. I'm very stubborn to agree with people. But you all are right. I mean Rattle, Ginny O, Mia... I hope this game gets better. We do need something to do not just training.
same
Ikr and I so happy that Mia The Gamer said something about this because the sso bugs are super annoying
To be brief, they need competitors. Then, they will understand how does pain feel when their players decide to choose those competitors.
I believe this too. Atm, there are no other horses games that truly compare. Sso is the largest MMORPG Horse game. None have even come close to having most the aspects star stable does. And until someone is riding alongside sso gamewise, that’s not going to happen. There are tons of games, but they really aren’t as good. They’ll have horses and no quests, or horses that are very ugly looking and bad game design.
Well thank god this year they r gonna get some. Its about time too
Fr, it's a good think that a few Horse games are being developed. Astride for instance, the game is literally so promising.
@@icesparrow4080 what are you referring to?
@@Wizchin there are quite a few new horse games coming out, none are at the same scale yet, let alone mmorpgs.
The bugs problem absolutely terrifies me. As someone who uses SSO as a comforting place to go when I'm upset I can't even imagine losing all my horses. My best friend and I roleplay a lot, so our horses have personalities, and I am attached to most of my horses. I would be so upset if I lost them.
Same! I used to write entire stories for each one of my horses.
I don't report alt acc bugs because they don't fix them. Valedale Village bug was reported but not fixed.
As a SSO player that cares about the story, the characters and the amazing fictional world of Jorvik and Pandoria as a whole, i feel betrayed, players like me are the most neglected in this community, SSO only cares about making the players who like realistic horses happy, and it makes me so sad, there is no story anymore, only cute horses
Yeah! I love realistic horses! But I wish there were more story to the game. It seems every update is horses or stuff for the horse, or some event with horses. I can’t see any quest updates often!
This game has been going downhill for a long time and it's gonna collapse by all the stupid decisions the team has made. It went so bad that playing it now feels like a completely different game. There is apsolutely no endgame and they don't even try to change it. Almost every update is directed to new players. Here is a quote from their latest instagram post: "Without the glittering fun of this year’s winter festival of friendship, life in Jorvik might feel a little less cheerful. We don’t want the January blues to get you down, so we’re giving you 30% off on both Pay Once and One Month Star Rider!" What about players who already have pay once sr? The only thing they added in december were new horses. And one new race this month. Next wednesday update is also new horses. This is disgusting. I don't know any other mmo that disrespects their old players that much. Something changed around the time mistfall came out probably there was a change in staff or something. They are so money hungry and it shows.
it's like "oh no people start to don't like or game LET'S MAKE A PROMOTION THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT 100%"
I just don’t think the company is entirely money hungry, they still do care lots about us, and just going to say that they don’t only give us things like horses so that we buy them and give them money, but also because we like the horses too. But I get what is being said, and they do need to change. Also sso ain’t going to collapse any time soon…
The team isn't bad. This is the company director, who makes decisions etc. This is his bad, he is the main money hungry man, unfortunately.
The team is suffering from him too, because they just can't say that everyting is on fire, because the politics of the company forcing them to be always positive (Rattle made video about it) and that is so sad, but if u say something "bad", you are going to be outcast in the whole company...
Don't blame team of developers. They just making their job, following orders :(
I know another MMORPG with the same obvious disrespect towards old players and that's Red Dead Online. My two favourite games... 🙄
THE STAR COIN PRICES THOUGHHHH😭 RIP ARE MONEY💀 NOT US WASTING ALL OUR MONEYS ON A GAMEEE star stable has to stop being pricy
Thank you for taking the time to put this all together, hopefully something changes. Your points are all 100% accurate.
I'm quite literally sobbing. You've just put everything into words. It's all coming back. I used to love this game as a kid and I've been playing less and less and you've just explained why. So many things I've forgotten, the bus, the shitty reindeer, the grunting and breathing sounds, my gosh I miss it all. I just want to go back.
Thanks for the shout out! It's good too see other people starting to talk about the issues with this game. It really doesn't feel like even 50 people are working on this game 40 hours a week. It's sad, and we don't want it to "fail." For it to not fail, they really do need to work on the game itself (story fetch quests at this point, they should also add more game mechanics) and put in less horses and less stand alone races because they don't advance the game.The video for the stats of mine is "The More I Dig, Pt 1." In short, the game has 21 million registered users and as of May 2021 has 663K active monthly players. That's a 3% active playerbase which means in traditional game terms, the game is technically dead already and being carried by the whales who buy star coins every month. So, NONEWHORSESSSO22 and DONTBUYHORSESSSO22!!
As much as I hate to say it, you are completely right. I remember playing Starshine Legacy with my sister 7 years ago, I remember when I started playing SSO and how much joy it brought me. This story, these characters, this little world and just everything in this game still means a lot to me, so it's really painful to see it all shatter to pieces. I guess all we can do now is raise our voices and hope that SSO wil hear us soon.
Unfortunately the shareholder problem is most definitely the catalyst causing all these quality issues. We’ve seen this with EA. Basically, the more profitable and successful a company seems to be, the more and more money gets invested into it by shareholders. In other words, star stable is no longer managing their own game, shareholders are. The profit that Star Stable makes gets presented to shareholders to prove that their company is worth investing in so that Star Stable can grow. If Star Stable doesn’t show their shareholders that their company is growing or making a consistently large profit, they will stop investing. Shareholders aren’t inherently bad, it’s only when they start to control the quality of the game that problems start to arise, not only for the game, but the whole company. Again, this gives off the sims vibes where the sims 3 was pretty well received but sims 4 was a disaster to say the least because EA continued to get greedier to impress shareholders causing quality to be an after thought. It’s a shame really, but extremely common in the gaming industry.
At this point I'm not even going to send SSO game update requests. I'm scared they'll ban me for having a good idea that would benefit them and the players both at the same time- :)
when i send them emails they act like they dont know what i am saying rip
I watched the whole video. As an older player I was planning to make a comeback to the game as I've not played for a few years, but my heart breaks to see how downfall the game has gone. I truly miss the time when we had to make certain effort in the game like the bus as you stated. Mostly why I think I lost the fun in the game was when they started updating the graphics around the areas. Just my personal opinion ofcourse, but it all seems to change to be much more cartoony, part of the reason why I miss the old days. It had a different vibe to it. And then they begun to add the horses more and more and my wait and hype for the mainstory to continue just faded away. And hearing now how it doesn't even make any sense... there's no point for me to log in. I can only hope for them to make a massive step towards better at this point...
I have been playing SSO for 10 years, and I'm saddened to hear it's going the route it is. I really do hope they will end up listening to the players feedback and actually add more content. Currently playing while listening to this and I can't ignore the bugs popping up. From the sky switching from day to night, to trees without textures... :// I adore this game, I really do, and it would be a shame if it went down the way it's looking.
You put all of my worries into words. It’s really sad watching how this game is ending. Sso used to be a big part of my life but now i play it once a month or something, and the only thing i do is buying and training old model horses (because i can’t stand new horses). This game doesn’t make sense anymore
wholeheartedly agree with every point made in this video. for personal perspective, i stopped playing this game for almost 2 years. i logged back in recently with the announcement of the mobile app and i’m barely entertained, and was absolutely SHOCKED by how little had even been added into the game story-wise. i was expecting to come back to a huge immersive questline and was met with a few badly animated cutscenes and boring dialogue that was hard to follow and feel apart of. i hope they tend to the dying plant that is this game now, as it has enormous potentional
i’m also adding here now incredibly bugged the mobile experience is. you can barely move in your stable on foot, if you touch the settings your controls are wiped from the screen, the buttons are so tiny you always press the wrong one, chats show notifs and there are none, half of the interactions are missing that you would get on pc, and more
it's nice to see someone put all of this into words. i've been playing star stable online for 10 years, since i was 8 years old and i was always invested in the story - especially after playing starshine legacy, i was excited to see pandoria in sso and how the story would go on from there. i always wanted more story quests to keep me entertained in the lore, but in like 2015/2016 i used to hear that "if they added story quests regularly, the game would end too quickly" but now? i disagree. there's so many different plots related to the lore they could focus on, they could tell us more about garnok for example, or some info about the ufo (i sometimes tend to forget it's even there!), i'm still waiting for ashland to see what garnok's fury is hiding... or the ice witch (?) in hidden dino valley. or the kallters, the area behind the big door. it's disappointing and saddening to watch how they're going down with this game, forgetting about endgame players and doing nothing to prevent this. it's nice to see redesigns and new looks of the characters, the game has to go forward, but.... i miss the vibes that were in 2012-2014 with the story quests, the old soul rider's models and such
*This video is NOT meant to scare you, but let you know the current state of the game!*
I had like a whole essay prepared but it got deleted so I wanted to say: Thank You :) It is so important to get this out no matter how hard it is to say it especially in a documentary a whole hour long. It is amazingly said and prepared, as well as all the people you credited.
Glad it was helpful! thank you so much
This is so well thought out and well edited. I sent this video to Star Stable via email in hopes that they will see it. Standing up against star stable is like walking on water at this point, but I love this game and don’t want it to die. We’ve got to somehow get their attention.
I hope you said in the email WHY you sent it, and WHAT you want to have changed! If they see a 1 hour video, they probably won't care to watch it unless they have a reason.
@@MiaTheGamer I did! It’s far fetched, but hopefully they will watch/notice this video.
@@MiaTheGamer This was their response. Just the typical automated message.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Star Stable.
We love hearing new ideas from our players! We work hard all the time to create new and exciting updates for the game, and we get tons of ideas from our fans... Sometimes up to a thousand different emails every week!
This means that even though we always read all your mails and sometimes even pass the best ideas on to our Game Studio team, we can’t promise that every idea will be made into the game or that we’ve always got time to send you a personal response.
It’s amazing to have awesome fans like you who care and send in their ideas, and it's always really cool to hear what you think!
Thanks again for writing to us!
Best regards
Juan
StarStable Support
@@historicalswim2897 I swear they just have a literal bot sending these out now-
I've personally experienced the backlash from the SSO team when I tried reporting a bug... I didn't get my account suspended like the person in the video, but I was scolded harshly for knowing about the bug which came as a shock to me as... ANY other game that you report bugs in, the developers are usually very accepting and thank you for the report. SSO? Nope. After that incident, I decided I wouldn't report or send them any more feedback emails as they choose to do nothing and are extremely ban happy to their lifetime players. Screw you SSO.
i like the fact you brought light upon the star coins. personally, i think the star coins are extremely overpriced for a horse game (especially when its dedicated to younger audience)
I used to LOVE this game so much. Roleplaying and doing quests were my favorite thing. Once I got to the point where there were no more quests storyline quests, I stuck to roleplaying for a while, but slowly lost interest. Every time they would come out with a new horse (which was every few months back then) , I would buy the star coins for it (because I always spent all my star coins on clothes and tack.) Now when I work up the interest to play a new story quest, it is really boring and usually last 30 minutes or so, and most of it is a race or collecting stuff. The story isn't even interesting anymore. Roleplaying is quite boring now, since most of the serious role-players stopped playing, and they come out with horses every few weeks that I don't even bother buying star coins anymore. I don't even get time to save up.
To those who says the game wont end : if enough players quit and not enough new players join, the company will lose their money and eventually they will close. Companies that arent doing well and dont make enough money there is no point for them to continue. Thats just pure fact.
Mia you did a great documentary! If I had one wish it would ve that they continued with the old main story not changing it. If the lore book was a physical copy then obviously it will go missing sooner or later since its a big compny with many employees! If its digital form on say a cloud platform everyone could access it!
thank you! This game has so many problems, i just hope it fixes soon lol
a mistake sso makes is that when theres a bug, they remove how the bug happens, not fix it. the fashion barn for example, instead of coding it so you cannot enter while ‘in the mall’, they removed the fashion barn completely
And that didn't even fix it- people used the cottage in Mistfall instead so removing the fashion barn, a fun feature, was literally pointless because they couldn't put the effort in smh
Funny thing is. The less there is to do and less new quests. The less active players get. The less active players get, the more Star coins they save up every saturday, which eventually goes down to not having the need to buy Star coins when you need something, Cause you’ve already saved up what you need from being inactive
I’ve been playing since late 2012. I dont want the old star stable back. I just want the dedication the old team had back.
when you said "Bella Sarah" I nearly started crying. God, that series was so amazing...
moorland used to be full of new players. I'll ride through at peak time and see maybe three.
I think the problem with Global store could be solved by just making into a catalogue. Just like you have in Stardew Valley for example! It could be useful for players who don't really enjoy running around the whole map to find this one specific thing they want. They could just check into the catalogue, see the price of the item and where it's sold. There could also be a check-list implemented or wishlist of the items you'd like to buy.
Keep up the good content Mia
thank you! I will
ive never been a star rider except for the free couple days, and i honestly always felt somewhat resentful because i can/could never go to places i could the day prior, or get new horses or ponys. like i remember one of the quests REQUIRED you to have a pony to play it, yet im playing the game again and suddenly im able to do that quest now. i didn't know about all the issues, but im glad i learned. i want to keep playing, i just hope that they get their stuff together and ACTUALLY listen to the fans and players.
What I'm the most pissed about is the fact that the lore is inconsistent. I legit do not understand why they're deliberately going back and changing the story when they had soooo much room to just go forward from what already existed before. They did not have to ruin it. Seriously, what does it cost them to just continue doing something coherent with what was already there?? I don't understand, it feels like actual sabotage.
I play this game since 2012... and its really sad to say that the game was BETTER then as it is today. I still play it, idek why, maybe I still have hope. But it's really sad. I used to play with friends, guess what... all of them quit. Everyone I knew and liked quit playing this game. Why? Because it's boring. I asked everyone and all of them said it got boring. Now I used to think I got older and that's why the game's boring but this video changed my mind. It's not the age that makes it boring... it's the game in general. I used to LOVE this game with my whole heart and now i really wanna quit. Now I didn't quit just yet because I still have a club that I care about but let's be real, the all, the WHOLE club just comes online to meet each other and then everyone goes offline again until the next club meeting. I always knew that sso was somewhat of money hungry but it's really bad. Like really really bad. I will quit, probably very soon- It's just really sad how I used to love this game and now the game is just empty and it's really no fun anymore. There's no good story anymore, yes there are many side quest, but let's be honest, what for? They are so boring. For example: The new quest on Marley's farm, why did they do it, when the could've done a part of the main story line.
It's just sad. I'll quit playing this game. At least I'm not going to buy anything anymore. Imma log in for my club but that's it. Thanks for making this video.
I suggest that when quitting, send a message to star stable through their custumer support about why you are quitting and why you don't want to spend money on them. that could wake them up i think. they dont care about us until it hits their pockets.
@@MiaTheGamer Yeah, will do. I really really hope that we can somehow safe this game since it’s been a really big part of my life but if it keeps going on like this then well. Anyway thank you for taking your time and making this video, I hope sso will notice and rethink their action’s.
My hope for this year is that after the big character update is out of the way we will hopefully get more content within the game rather than horses, horses, more horses, a race, a 5 minute quest that comes with the race, and occasionally a few clothing items that aren't anything special.
I've been playing since...maybe early 2015? I'm level 22 (close to level 23) and have been waiting for quests that last longer than a few minutes and that give us a good amount if xp. There is such a lack of content in this game and you sort of get stuck once you reach about level 20. Progress feels slow and the game feels repetitive. Yes there are a few things you can do in the game, but it gets old very very fast. The only things we have to do are; chores (lame), training, reputation, talking to people, and championships. A game that is as popular as Star Stable is, they need to keep the game fun and interesting for the players. They're really only just focusing on gaining money, but where does all of that money go? We aren't seeing anything new and from what I've heard, the employees aren't even being paid very well for all of their hard work.
If Star Stable keeps at this awful way of "progressing" their game they're going to lose more and more players as well as money. Maybe that won't happen any time soon, but if something doesn't change then that's the path they're looking at.
Todays update 28.8.24: buy horses 🫶🏻
Everything you said was right on point. I don't see them living to see 20 years. I just don't, not going down this road they've started. It's an awful reality that everyone in the SSO community is going to have to accept. Not everyone will, of course. But it's something everyone should definitely be prepared for. It breaks my heart, even though I've only been playing since late 2018. Unfortunately, that's right when the problems began, so I've been here since the beginning of "The downfall" so to speak.
It's human nature to ignore the people that really matter when money gets involved. All you see are the dollar signs, instead of what truly needs to be addressed. That's exactly the case with SSO. They've found ways to manipulate us and bend us to do what they want. It's only been getting worse as time has went on. With the floods of new players coming in, that's when they really get bad.
The older generations of SSO are irrelevant to them for multiple reasons. 1.) We aren't as hyped about the game anymore because we've finished everything, so we aren't their main money makers anymore. 2.) As a new player, everything is new. So you want to buy everything and experience everything. Which of course generates revenue for SSO. 3.) We don't buy Star Coins as often as new players do. Most of the older players are adults or have jobs to make their own money and don't want to spend it to buy Star Coins that cost $20-$65, when we could spend it on more useful things. And because they only focus on the new players, Old players get bored and therefore quit.
This has been an ongoing battle since 2018, and it's only gotten progressively worse. I don't see them ever hearing our cries. At least, not until it's too late and the game comes crashing down on top of them. *It takes a mistake to learn a lesson.*
they got their new ceo in 2018 rip this game is so sad
I started sso when i was 12.
Now I’m 18!
I totally agree with you
The game isn’t what it’s supposed to be anymore..
Same :(
Yoo I started like when I was 8
So many memories
Now as an adult I see how it is...
It used to be so much fun when new horses were released once in 3 months. It used to be an whole event where everyone went online and bought the horse and got new tack for it and after that go back to doing quest.
58:06 is a huge worry for me. I started this game in my early 20's and now I am in my 30's. I paid for the game back in 2012 thinking it would be developed like any other game. I never thought it would take TEN years to finish the bottom part of a map and get an ending to main quests. We aren't even finished....expecting people to hang on in actual years for something that's supposed to be entertainment is INSANE! I've been thinking about leaving this game for the last few years and now I am convinced I should. They continue to keep going downhill and there just isn't any content anymore to keep someone engaged-definitely not someone whose been in the game as long as I have been. I feel ripped off and upset. I paid for a product and haven't even gotten that product yet....the main story was all we had back then when I paid. That and a promise of a game, well, a game has to have some type of content...this is nothing more than an online auction of the highest bidder for the fashion show of horses and the new hottest "who's in this week" show. I feel like I went to bed with a game and woke up with a freak show. If I am brutally honest. I stay to help people, but honestly, I'm slowly watching myself drift away. Takes longer and longer for me to come back in-between these "breaks".
Great video! You put into words a lot of the things I have thought of and noticed throughout the years. Been playing since 2012 (I was 14) and played the games before that as a kid.
I miss the mystery of the storyline, the realism of the horses and the game as a whole. I'm so sad to see "my" amazing horse game being ruined like this, it genuinely makes me both sad and angry.
I have been playing this for 6-7 years now and I loved it in the beginning. I was obsessed. It's so sad to slowly realise how everything is going downhill. The game has SO much potential, if the right people worked there, the game would be a hundred times better. Players are still waiting and we have gotten a few more main story quests now but I always feel scared after finishing a main story quest because...when will the next one come? In a month? A year? Will it ever come? When will a new, bigger, area open up? The game has so much potential and I really, really hope someone can save the game, if only the right person finds Star Stable and purchases it or something...but we all can dream
For the bugs! A lot of times I will put on a bridle/saddle or something similar; it won’t even go on. It disappears from my inventory, isn’t on my horse, can’t be seen on the character sheets, and is never seen again.
To all the people who are saying that Mia is wrong, please listen to what Mia is saying: She is saying that there is a POSSIBILITY that Star Stable COULD end. It is not a fact that Star Stable is going to end. The purpose of the title is to speculate the POSSIBILITY of the game ending and the reasons why it could. If the game was in fact ending, there would be no question mark at the end of the sentence, "The End Is Near?"
thank you for speaking up!
I think star stable is fun I still play it and ty for telling us
We think your videos are cool and pleas do not be mean to Mia ❤️
@@Avakinlifeforlife I am not trying to be mean to Mia. I am actually defending Mia because she has gotten a lot of hate comments saying that Mia wrong.
@@RebeccaRavenbird I’m trying to help to
I also hope they will do something about the unfair level system...
The amount of money SSO gets when new horses arrive is insanity.
They won’t stop this sort of model (bringing new horses to the game), until it stops being profitable for them.
I personally feel they want as much profits from the game as possible. I don’t think people understand how much they actually earn with each new horse model released.
When people stop purchasing every month on new horses, they will either have to change to bring people back to their game or they stop developing and let it die naturally like most online games end.
this video was amazing, thank you for giving players a voice.
i could be mistaken, but i’m sure i heard that someone was given or bought part of star stables company, and this is why we don’t have any other celebrations anymore, we were extremely lucky to have the halloween event last year.
notice that, last year we got barely any in game events, such as st.patricks day, valentines e.t.c!
i agree with everything you’re saying, i’m not very active on sso nowadays, however it’s so dismissive and kind of offensive that they’re forgetting about their older players, it feels like they draw you in and once you’ve spend so much money on the game, they move on and draw more people in, rather than focusing on what they can improve and listening to what we want for the future, they just seem very dismissive of older players who have been on the platform since the beginning.
it’s so frustrating that they don’t give a shit about us, they don’t listen or try and fix the problem, they again dismiss the issue by permanently suspending players, or reassuring players that things will change, but they never do.
but yeah, i’m not sure how true it was, has anyone else heard anything about this?
there has been players who i believe got suspended for asking for a refund- and didnt get the refund, but still got suspended. the company is whack.
yes, they are falling to pieces, i can’t exactly speak for them but if i’m being honest i don’t think they care about the game as much as they should.
it’s so frustrating and offensive of them to just forget about us, they always find a way to blame you for the issues you’re having in game, they can’t own up to theirselves, i honestly do hope that they eventually do something about the game, because at this point the game is only just hanging on, it’s not going to be long before they have to end the game for good.
and it’s such a shame because i truly believe that the game has so much potential, it’s just frustrating that they are choosing to ignore our concerns and demand for the game.
Wow, this was really eye-opening. Thank you so much for making this video!
Glad it was helpful!
I've been playing this game for 8 yrs now. I didn't rlly think about it b4, but wow. The fact that this game would still b considered beta + not even HALF of the map of jorvik is unlocked yet? It's so disheartening :( I've tried to quit SSO but I just can't cuz it's literally my childhood game...it's so sad to see this happening...
i tried to quit but i ended up coming back for the nostalgia, and now i make videos lol
I forgot to comment on this yesterday, but you did an excellent job on the documentary. You hit every point when it comes to the whole game. If SSO doesn’t wake up and stop only looking at positive shit they’re going to lose more players. I wished they understood why we make videos on these topics and why we speak up so much on insta or Facebook or RUclips😕
thank you! i was literally staying up all night just to edit. This took days! hopefully they eventually start listening. Too many people are quitting!
I honestly agree with the missing lorebook. Does anyone remember Jon Jarl's cave thingie with the spirit of Jon Jarl? Well remember in that cave it had an entrance to a deeper spot but it's blocked by a stone with an element hole. I think everyone here only got past by the sun stone..? Anyway, what happened to that quest? Did they just forgot about that cave? Cause the lore about it was way more catchy then the dog water quest at fort maria with Beatrix
I've never really thought about it since I wasn't interested in the wild horses, but sso could've easily done something similar to how we came to own Spirit - find the horse we wanted, build trust and eventually offer them something like we gave the apple to Spirit. I cannot tell you how exciting it was to plan out where to go just to see Spirit back in the day. All they had to do was recreate what they did back then and the only explanation I can give for why they didn't is because they can't be bothered.
You are so right. All your points were very valid. I am also so worried this game will end soon. Btw love your videos. I'm on Frost Valley two maybe I will see you run bye.
thank you! it is very possible to see me in the game. I am usually in Valedale, Epona, Silverglade Village, Firgrove, or Jarlaheim!
@@MiaTheGamer ok
@@MiaTheGamer I'm a champion person so I go to champ frequently so I mite see you :) Love your videos
I have been playing starstable for at least 10 years now and it is all so sad what this game has come to. It was my favorit game and I loved it with all my heart but now everyting I paid for, that made the game magical, is gone.
41 : 25 Yeah I agree with you lol, Lisa was literally like the main soul rider with the most old-game content about her. She also had the coolest powers and even her horse's name was literally in the name of one of the main series.
You have some very good points in this video, I am tired of filler updates and not enough quests, however I think that for the time being everyone bringing up the issues needs to relax a bit. Brining up the issues in the game is VERY important for the game development (this isn’t directed at anyone) however I have seen so many comments being blatantly disrespectful and absolutely awful to the team, ESPECIALLY the social media team which please please bear in mind the social media team can’t do much but report what U don’t like to the management to please they to be kind to them! I think that going forward we should phrase things in a certain what while giving constructive criticism (not hate) is say things like - I didn’t like the update this week because it was very … (lackluster, simple, not much content included) because … (it was a short quest, it was just a race, there were only clothes to buy) next time perhaps you could bring in content along with items so it’s well spread out (or whatever you belive they should be doing )
Any comments that are on this video that disrespect players or the game developers will be deleted! I do not support hate speech, and I believe everyone can share their opinion as long as they do it KINDLY. Multiple people so far have name-called other players instead of being respectful. I understand that the social media team can only take our comments and send them over to management- but that is the problem. The management doesn't listen!
Exactly ❤️
Also aren’t there separate people that make new horses and quests? -nope ok I get it now 👍
I also just realised, basically real life Dark Core has taken over SSO. It’s like people who understand this situation is like Greenpeace against the whole world and climate change, roughly said. It’s definitely not the best to swallow and stay quiet, this should be taken seriously. Spread and petition.
This explains so much about why when I came back after like 7 years none of the storylines made sense
I remember a time where they said there will never be a unicorn. A few years later there are two unicorns that are permanently in Valedale...
As sad as I am to hear all this Ik it must be said the amount of change the game has gone through is unbelievable and unfortunately I can’t say that they were good changes😢❤
Great video! Thank you for speaking up about this, your points are spot on
thank you! btw love your channel! i wish star stable would go back to how it used to be rip
This is so sad. I never thought they would go this route. I was a big fan of the original storyline and I even collected the starshine legacy comics. I wasn't a big fan of the updates of different areas but I could tolerate it, but now when they messed with the storyline and the main characters, they made a huge mistake. This game is nothing without the original story!!!!
You're definitely right about there not being as many players anymore.
I really agree with you. I'm posting your video on groups about sso, but many players are just like "XD, its only game for child, if you dont like this game just stop playing". But i see that are another player, who really see the problem of this game and thats make me happy. I love your channel and good luck on yt
thank you so much! a lot of people who say "if you dont like it, leave" are people who dont want to admit the game is falling apart. but i think the more you hide the truth, the more it becomes obvious.
We should all just start using old horses to protest!!
I feel the same way, even though I've only been here since 2020 i have watched sso earlier than that. And you're absolutely right, the game isn't growing. Almost every week we get new horses and its annoying. It annoys me because I can't buy star coins, and new horses keep coming which I can't buy. I keep getting excited for a update that's not horses, because it doesn't make a difference for me in the game when we get new horses, that I can't buy and it's just the same for me
I’m. Really. Scared. Um, I’m only 20 minutes through (I have to go eat dinner) but on the bright side of things.. this is really well done!! This is like a professional documentary great job!!
thank you! i hope you enjoy the rest of it
I miss the feeling of when the Tinker horses just came out. That was the prime time of the game imo.
I was scared when you said you stop receiving your weekly allowance after 2 weeks of absence. So I logged in. And. I. Didn’t. Get. My. Allowance. Since last month. The last time I played was in Christmas. I should have around 5 000 sc but I didn’t get all of it, I missed 300sc… that kinda rude tbh.
Really great video, soooo relatable, so true, absolutely well made. Thank you❤️
YOU DESCRIBED IT PERFECTLY- I love how you put all of the videos together and talked about all of the problems. I totally agree with you. I really loved this game, played it for quite a while and I don't want it to end in a trash bin, because I feel the sentiment for it and people remembering the game as the "not ended" one or the "bad" one would really hurt me. But it needs to stop. . They need to start working and taking it seriously.
Thank you for making this video! And other creators, that you gave credit to! People need to see what is happening and not defend star stable blindly
Thanks one more time
(Also it was really nice to listen to this video while doing my math homework lol)
glad you enjoyed it
There has definitely been a lot of texture bugs
When you do the circus race, the lucys head splits open-
I was waiting for someone to say this. Also when doing Steve's race, there's and an invisible wall when you're about to turn while in the field. Josh's western race (opponent) is broken for me and has been for months. I think Star Stable fell apart when Stacy Place started playing, to be honest I haven't liked her since the beginning. I never cared for her content. I just didn't have a good feeling about it. Star Stable seems to no longer care about their players, which are who really keep the game alive, and instead care about the shareholders.
@@hxxlls I never really liked Stacy Place, I mostly confused her with StacyPLAYS who is a Minecraft (former Minecraft now?) player LOL
The funny part is, I somehow haven't experienced any of this. Yeah and remember they said racing updated, 3 years later, what do we have, the same racing. Also remember the black glitch line on the horizon and the bugged reflections in water. Fantastic.
Well said, although I've been playing since late 2016, seeing this happen to the game that I used to adore is genuinely heart-breaking. I used to revolve my whole spare time on SSO, getting excited to play it. Now I haven't played in months. It's very disappointing to see this happen to the game.
I have no words to say how thankful I am, that you dare to say all of that, that you took the time for this video... all you said was so on point and matches the reason I stopped playing
I started playing in 2013, and yes with time you play less, but NO you shouldn't be deleting a game bc you actively want to forget about it, tired of how it has turned out, feeling seriously disrespected, not listened to... Nowadays, a 60€ game shouldn't treat their community like that. You said it all... It's just sad we all know they won't listen, but still...
THANK YOU ^^
thank you so much for watching!
@@MiaTheGamer oooh boy, I would lie if I said I am surprised haha. But I guess as soon as you state an opinion and stand by it, you will get criticized and hated on. But you didn't send hate to SSO or anything... You stated facts in a clear, concise, and respectful way... I can only imagine the work behind it. Haters will hate (mostly in the darkness of private messages), but the comments I saw here sound thankful and approving of your video, and I think they are a more accurate image of what the majority think. I really admire your courage because if people like you don't speak up, then there really is no hope to get heard or to ever see a change. Thanks again :)
This just came on my feed and I’d like to point out that officially, I think we’re at our third or fourth main story update of the year. That has GOT to be a record
I’m just so sad about all of this. I am a pretty recent player and haven’t even had the game for 10 months yet and am already quite bored. I was sad when I reached level 5 and there were just no more quests.Then I was so incredibly excited when I bought lifetime star rider because there were a bunch of quests and things to do! And then I finished the main quests. I was confused and sad as to why there were just reputation blockers left. Now that I’ve explored what feels like every inch of the game I feel as though all I can do is plan what horses to buy next and do daily quests to finish planting a garden or get a reskinned horse (rune runner from soul riding). And I just feel bad at the prospect of becoming inactive because I spent $75 on this game when there’s nothing to do. It’s like Horse Riding Tales all over again
I've been thinking this for years. I actually remember way back in 2012 or so when the game looked like crap and nobody cared, because it had horses! And a cool fantasy story that you got to be a part of, with new chapters being added regularly like a comic book! That was what captivated me to begin with. That's what the game used to be about, just like Starshine Legacy before it. There was a real sense that the people working on the game knew how to combine creativity and storytelling with profit. It's been heartbreaking to watch SSO become so much more sophisticated and beautiful (I love the Gen 3 horses and Wildwoods is a work of art) yet completely lose track of what made the game good to begin with. It doesn't matter how good I look while doing stuff in the game if there is nothing to actually do! Without anything to do other than spending more money, there's a vital piece missing. That quirky charm and intrigue it used to have has been polished away. What's left is an underdeveloped, overly polished, impersonal, soulless, and creatively braindead tool of corporate bloodsucking.
This video has voiced exactly what I've been thinking to my self for like 4 years now! I joined in 2014 when I was 12 years old and at first I loved it... I was disappointed at the time that I had to pay to access the majority of the game, but at that point it was worth it! There were hundreds of quests and things to do so I was never bored (the only boring thing was building up reputation, which takes way to long in my opinion)...
Fast forward about 2 years, I'd completed most of the quests and was already getting bored with what the game had to offer, so I messaged SSO to see if they had any intel on whether there would be new areas or new story quests coming out any time soon as I was bored as hell, and they pretty much replied with the same thing every time "don't worry, big things are coming in the near future!..." yeah right 'rolls eyes in disbelief'.
Fast forward another 6 years to now, all I have left to do is stupid, repetitive reputation building quests which I have been stuck with for years (like the fishing quests), they bore me to death and make me want to quit star stable all together! But then I think of all the money I've put into the game for monthly star rider (I changed to pay once about 2 years ago, so thats about 6 years worth of monthly payments), and thousands of star coins... Star stable used to put the players first above all else, but now all they care about is new players and more money... It's honestly heart-breaking... I really hope things turn around soon, otherwise I do agree that there's not a whole lot more that SSO can bring to the world of horse games... :(
I also haven't payed for anything on SSO pretty much since I payed for one time star rider... I don't care if it means I miss out on stuff or have to wait for my star coins to slowly fill up (or not fill up at all in some cases). SSO is not worth my time or money until they actually put out semi decent content that benefits the older players that have been loyal to the game for nearly 10 years, instead of focusing on just bringing more and more new players in!
I'm from germany and I played Sso a long time. I am older now and Its so heartbreaking to play this game. Everything changed and a lot of player are gone...
Idk how to start but I really miss the old time there everyone was at the disco or the time there you met cool people at 2 am and made amazing memories..
Some things are really cool but a lot of things are just breaking my heart..
dies ist schlecht mann ;-;
wie viel jahr du spielst dies spiele? es ist langweilig jetzt? ich habe nicht spielen sso für... 6 jahr?? ich spiele dies wenn ich war 9, ich bin 15 jahr alt jetzt
(es tut mir leid, meine deutsch ist nicht perfekt, ich komme aus ungarn und ich habe lernen deutsch für zwei monat 👁👄👁)
edit: auch, ist (oder war) sso groß in deutschland? ich sah viel volk sprichwort sie komme aus von deutschland und hat spielt sso
Theoretically, a player could start playing SSO in they're first year of highschool, graduate, start college right away, work towards they're masters degree and graduate. Meanwhile, Star Stable Online is trying to run backwards against the clock while it keeps ticking. Time waits for no man, but SSO doesn't know that None of this matters anyway because we have to be patient, right? We have to be grateful, Right?
I am both deeply frustrated and very sad. I started playing in 2015. This game was my secret place. It was a was one of my most played games. My only hope is that if and when the game goes down, it might end up in the hands of the players who who really care about that game.
exactly! a lot of players even have their own babies now... and that freaks me out because these players were able to go from kids to parents due to how long this game takes to grow.
This was my childhood game- i really miss playing it x.x it hurts to hear all the changes and to see all the ppl quiting- sad..
i just stumbled over this and i'm relatively new (playing since 2019), so i never understood why my club leader (joined around 2011 or something) was so frustrated over every update and event that was new and exciting to me. i didn't know that the game is supposed to have such a huge map! also as you say, if you play through the main story it doesn't take long - i needed 6 months (incl. druid training) to finish the story. after that i started grinding collectables (stars, spiders, donkeys..) and reputations. i didnt finish it all til today cause its boring at some point and now i catch myself getting horses, train them to lvl 15 and repeat that.
about the horses: i mean its nice to have some new ones and updated ones but even as a new player i'd prefer that in a slower pace and get more quests instead. i also miss how the horses had their specialites like cold tolerance and all. i'm also fine with the lower stats on a horse with the lowest care, cause it makes sense that the horses are less motivated, so i hope they keep that. i'd wish for some antics on green horses, some little hops, head shaking or sudden temper like getting faster or slower for a few seconds. i didnt mind the stamina either, pretty sad that they took that out as well..
i feel so bad for players that started so early in the game- like 2011 - 2016. because those years were the prime of star stable really, since every update was so well crafted. now everyone i know who is an older player has quit or still plays, but knows for a fact they arent going to keep playing for much longer :/ a lot of times i think that a lot of players know about the old map, but actually many dont! so i think it is so cool that you mentioned you hadnt known? i feel like if more players knew about that then they would tell star stable to add the rest of the areas. it has been 10 years xD
@@MiaTheGamer yeah i see your point, let's hope for the best! i really didn't know about the map, that was a long video xD
I started in fall 2020 and I am already frustrated and bored with this game. You have quite a patience
I would like to mention that I've only been playing for a year and a half and honestly I'm in the same situation as all the old players. Nothing to do except daily grind.
You brought up a really good point that I haven't A thought of or B watched anything like
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THIS is exactly what I thought when I first played the wildwoods quests with the herds! My bestie didn't agree, but like come on.. It's literally a re texture warrior cats with a few changes.
The herds don't mix apart from when they gather at the tree (I think it's been a while lol),
(Ahem warrior cats, gathering every full moon, only time the clans can meet)
Plus, one of the herds are literally called warriors.. (smaller nitpick, but still hmm)
I don't really feel like the wild woods herds fit into sso either tbh? Maybe it's just me and my far back place in the main story quests lol, but from what I've seen horses don't really.. Talk.. That much in sso..?
Plus, they're much too anthropomorphized for sso in general. Our horses have been horses all this time, yes every now and then you could talk a word or two to them, but they remained horses.
And now we get wildwoods: they live in little stick houses, talk to humans and eachother every minute of the day in english/generally human language, have a completely different social structure (ahem literally humans) than real horses, wear jewelry and ornaments relating to their herds, have baskets somehow (I'm guessing the chipmunks make those because.. How..).. Don't they literally trade with eachother? They even have carrot fields where they grow carrots, like farm crops!
I mean they're a great idea, but they just don't feel like sso to me..?
no for real you are so right. it is literally not for sso, but it could be for another game. but i think because so many players do warrior cats roleplays in the global chat, that star stable saw that and thought it would be a good idea even tho it is a let down.
@@MiaTheGamer wait people do warrior cats roleplays- How have I missed that haha.
I definitely think you're right though, not just because of the rps but just generally because of how incredibly popular warrior cats is (is especially becoming right now..?), it seems just like them to copy something popular for the money.
This is more of a quick idea, but I would have loved a more realistic wild horse herds thing? Something a bit more mysterious without talking horses, something more like the kind of bonding thing everyone wants, but with wild herds. Something where you'd need to help the herds survive somehow and gain their trust? Maybe save a horse from getting captured/save a horse that was stuck somewhere and go through a slow process where you and the horse gain eachother's trust, maybe the horse and you save eachother somehow, and eventually you return it to it's herd. Like that you'd start a series of similar quests with the wild herds. Definitely something that has more of that majestic and mysterious feeling you get when you think of the classical wild horse concept (you know, spirit for example.) with maybe some magical elements incorporated. I feel like that could have been a lot more sso, had they put in the effort. An actual magical horse adventure as they call it.
Sorry for this long rant haha :,D
@@fireeagle5525 That is actually what a lot of players wanted. When SSO advertised the Jorvik Wilds, they even said "bond with the horse!" so a lot of us thought that we had to actually put effort into the herd. They can put the effort into the game, since Star Stable has the money and employees. They just dont want to.
In around 2009 or 2010 i stumbled across the SSO website. "Horse game coming soon" "apply to be a test rider" "horse game for girls" and i was hooked. every day after school i went to the website to see if it was out. A little over a decade later and the only reason I'm in this still developing game is my club. Its sterile and lifeless. My old childhood passion is now just stocks. And i don't expect it to change.
normally i’m training my friends horses, so i’m using plenty of emails everyday - however just yesterday i tried to log into my main account with the right email and password, but smh i logged into my friend’s account without even using their email. it’s crazy how i just logged into their account without even typing their info in.
I actually have an account that got all it's quests reset including the tutorial where you get the items for caring for your horse (I lost these items from my inventory) and my 2021 free birthday horse is gone but I still have items from the 2021 Christmas and birthday events and the account is on level three. I suspect that some of my data has beel lost but the sso customer service is trying to gaslight me into believing that my memory is the only issue here and nothing has been lost or reset because there's no data of the horse or quests being done and the sso database is extremely secure so my problem can't and doesn't exist (because they're obviously lost)
Pure truth. I agree with all of this 100%. It is sad to see a game that was once played with enthusiasm, willingness and joy collapses. It does not develop the further story, nor does it develop the game world. I remember when I joined, I was just enjoying the opportunity to explore. I did as much as I could, and I could sit for hours in each new area. It was similar with the plot. I have a great fondness for this game, I spent many hours playing it and the thought of how it breaks more and more makes you feel sorry. The scenario of its ending is unfortunately sad, but very possible. :
I feel like sso has list all it's magic. Maybe it's also because I've reached endgame, but all the mystery, the lore and so on aren't continued. (We also need more endgame content)
I have been playing star stable for 11 years (as of 2024) and star stable has really gone downhill over the last few years. i love the game, dont get me wrong, but the way that sso only cares about putting out horses and not giving quality content is absolutely insane to me. sso said at one point that horses are the reason that people play, and while i think that is around half true, i think the CONTENT is what drives players to join and buy star rider. getting star rider is the only way to complete the main story quests or even buy the vast majority of horses that are coming out.
dont even get me started on the bugs and glitches. it sometimes takes up to 2 years MAYBE 3 to fix a tiny bug. some bugs make it impossible for the player/multiple players to play the game. some bugs even ruin the sso realistic roleplay community. i cant even imagine how stressful that is for them to make videos with all the bugs going on.
they even removed some of my favorite events. christmas, valentines day, and halloween especially. i can understand wanting to include other winter holidays besides christmas, but as you said, why not give everyone the oppourtunity to learn about the different holidays. halloween was always my most favorite holiday on sso because there was always so much to do. and it wasnt just grinding, because the fact that just about all quests in events are grind. we had to grind for soul shards in halloween, grind for winter wishes (whatever theyre called (i never play during sso winter anymore) and there is no valentines event anymore. i also loved the fashion week (which isnt a holiday) and how raptor would come and sing. in fact, jorvik city mall isnt even used anymore. over the last 4 years i have never seen people there and when there are people there it is to do a quest then they immedietly leave. its so sad.
also, i love how sso is going for a more "realistic" approach but wont take out all the magic. and to be fair, the og sso had some realistic charm. more than it does now, imo.
i love sso but their way of only responding to positive comments on instagram is insane to me. the toxic positivity is wild to me. someone said something about not complaining and THE sso acount replied saying "fr though".
tldr; sso is declining rapidly.
I know right, it's crazy. As another og I've been playing season riders and it's so nostalgic, NO paid currency, affordable and nostalgically prehistoric horses, and actually somewhat challenging. It's crazy that their game was better 15-20 years ago than it is now.
Also I don't have any SSO friends as all of them quit. So sad, I feel like this happened to so many people
I remember when I discovered sso it was fun for a while and then I grew up...
All your points are valid! This is why a lot of players have gone over to other games like Wizards, Genshin, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2 to "take a break" or "wait" on SSO to release more interesting content. Even the other games come in giant patches every few years with tons of new content to explore! It'd be nice if SSO could do giant chunks at a time instead of baby steps and just aggravate everyone.
This does really worry me. Let’s hope star stable will wake up soon 🥲
dang this is my third comment but you keep bringing things up that i forgot about hahah, yeah lisa is supposed to be a rockstar, she was in SSL, but after they updated the soulriders she’s more like a country singer, basically they changed her whole personality
its okay if you comment a lot xD I read all of my comments! i like hearing what people have to say
Hi Mia :)
this is the first video i see of you and i have to admit, that i mostly agree with you. I myself am a German player and therefore I’m on the German servers. as far as my opinion is concerned: i've been playing sso since the end of 2014, so quite a long time. it is clear that a game develops over time (it has to) and thus the players develop, too, you get older. i just like to remember the old days when new horses only came every four weeks and when you could generally look forward to wednesdays updates. when epona came out, the silverglade championate came out and when there was still snow. at the moment they are putting out a lot of horses and little content, which is a shame. Of course they need sources of income, without them a game can't survive, but so many horses are bugged and the gaits are simply copied. it's a great pity and it's just boring. so I only come online for club meetings. they even took out the christmas events or valentine's day events. even the original map is so big. they could make so much of it, but they don't. I really think it's a shame that they've degraded such a great game in such a way. maybe this is due to the lack of competition, since sso itself is the most successful online horse game.
Thats just a part of my opinion, but these are some points i criticised at the game. As I said, it’s my opinion :)
huh. was considering revisiting this game, i guess not... 😰 i don't wanna see what i used to love be tarnished in my memory like this...