Stacking Mexican Silver Volume 3: 1900 through the 1950s
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2023
- Hold on to your caballitos! The Mexican silver of the early 20th century is where things really start to get exciting! We start this video by discussing and examining two of the most beautiful coins Mexico (or anyone!) has ever released. Then we'll move on to a half-dozen other big, heavy solid silver coins while I make the case that this is where modern bullion really begins.
Extremely well done and informative. Most RUclips videos are a waste of time when you’re trying to truly learn about a subject. Yours was very worthwhile. Appreciated, I’ll watch more.
Hey that's really nice to hear. Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Great video, no bs
This is probably my favorite time period for Mexican coinage. Such nice coins from this time period
Wow!!!!! Thank you for such a fountain of information on Mexican coins. I discovered your channel last night and you just gained my sub to your channel and I am so excited to keep learning from you! This is my third video I watched on your channel. Your series on Mexican coinage so far is a delight. I can tell you are a wonderful teacher on numismatics and coins. Your knowledge, clear presentation, and energy on your speech about the subject is amazing. Thank you for sharing your accumulated knowledge to us the young ones on this hobby. Keep it coming and cheers, maestro W.C!
Thanks so much! Glad to have you aboard!
Great information
Thanks!
It was nice to see a comparison between U.S. and Mexican coins.
Thanks! I think it's kind of hard to get an idea of what the scale of things are if you don't see them alongside something familiar.
Thank you - a very informative presentation. You are correct - the wide variation in coin fineness makes some shy away from stacking Mexican coins, but as you mentioned the silver content is usually specified on the coin. I was baffled by the weight standard used in the coins. As it turns out, Mexico used the Tael as the standard. One Tael = 37.5 grams. Thanks again.
Glad you liked it!
I had to sell my Railroad coin to my local coin shop a decade ago.
I was just looking on eBay for some Mexican silver coins as shown in your video.
A couple $30-$50 coins.
My eyes want but my gut just doesn't trust buying from eBay.
A lot of fakes around !
Love the first coin you showed, absolutely beautiful !
Just buy from sellers with high feedback. Or slabbed pieces.
Love this Mexican silver coins series. It’s easy to love the 90% silver coins I’m just not well-versed in anything other than that and how it pertains to a good price for a certain Mexican coin. (especially the 100 peso late 70s coin.)-like the odd weight and purity of each of those coins.
When I first started stacking (not too long ago) I was really only interested in weight. Your videos are making me much more interested in the numismatic element of the pastime. Thanks
Hey that's really cool! Nothing at all wrong with just being all about the silver or gold value. But there is so much more to explore.
Great video! 👍🏻
Thank you!
thanks for the info...I have lots of 1968 Mexico Olympic coins and comemerative medals I need info on...thanks
"caballito" is used as a term or endearment or nickname of the coin not a literal reference to a " small horse" Cheers from Park City Utah!
Like that train coin some of the 1910 pieces first time seeing those really nice
That railroad isn't too expensive in high circulated condition. It's a neat piece!
I see shiny - I hit the like button. Simple as
Oh.. I have a 1948 Cinco Pesos 30 gram 90% Silver Mexican Coin.. I love the high relief look. that it has on the eagle.. I would love to have a old LIBERTAD. I'm trying to save up for one now..lol.
Glad you like the 1948 Cinco pesos! One of my favorites and one that I talk about at length in this video debuting on Friday night!!
I used to work with a Mexican guy who returned to Mexico every 8 weeks or so to visit family. I asked him about onzas, he said there were guys with buckets of them selling them for $8 on the street. This was about 2000-2001. I gave him $200 to buy some and bring them back, you can't bring back over 20 through customs without declaring them. First time, he forgot and didn't get them. Next time he went, I asked him again and he forgot again. They were $9. This went on at least 4 times and they were $11 by then, and I still would not have minded paying $11. I didn't expect to steal them for under spot silver, I just wanted the coins for stacking purposes. His sister worked in a bank and was only able to get brand new ones for $14-15; since I didn't care about condition I didn't want those with generic rounds selling for under $12. It ended up never happening and I got my money back, but it was disappointing.
You want to be careful overloading on .720 Mexican silver; At .720, it becomes uneconomical to dissolve and purify these coins into .999 so there is a practical limit on how far they may appreciate. And of course, the 10% silver coins are just dogs.
I got a couple Guatemocs (the 1947-48 .900 coins) when I went with my folks to Mexico as a kid. This was in 1965. Those are impressive coins.
Oh that's tough to miss out on something that you're excited to get. I hate that! But you're absolutely right about the 72% coinage--it definitely has its limitations. On the other hand, I know people who stack nothing but 40% Kennedy half dollars. The .720 Mexican coinage has almost twice the purity as those. Glad you're a fan of those 1947-1948 5 pesos. Such a cool coin!
@@Dub-C_Coins The only destination for 40% Kennedys is to other folks who want 40% Kennedys. Sure, if you find them in circ or in a coin roll hunt you're not gonna throw them back, and a year ago the guy at my local 7-11 had a full compartment of them in his register change drawer--all of which he sold me at face. I even found 2 in a coinstar machine reject bin a few months ago. But avid collectors of these are IMO going to be disappointed because refiners won't take them. I have about 10 rolls of them, maybe I should take them to a coin show and get hosed trading them for something real.
Thank you for your work on these videos. I enjoy your methodical approach to each subject and at 63, I learn a lot from you. I started collecting in 2008 and it has morphed into about 65% stacking, 20% coins I just like to own, look at and play with, and 15% numismatic investments. My local LCS's don't regularly carry old Spanish, Mexican and other old large silver coins. Other than APMEX, do you have any suggestions for on-line shopping for these "like to own, look at and play with" old, large coins? I'm comfortable spending $40-$80 per coin and as you said in one video, on rough days, it just makes me feel better to pop the green cap and play with the 11 old large coins I've collected so far. I do not claim the sophistication to order off of eBay without the uncomfortable risk of acquiring fake coins, so that is off the table. Again, thank you and your subscribers for any direction you might offer and wishing you a blessed holiday season!
Hey I really appreciate the nice comments! As for finding the good old stuff: Go to coin shows if you can. You'll have the inventory of dozens of dealers to look through and they usually horse trade at shows. Also, don't be afraid to buy on eBay. Just make sure you're buying from someone with high feedback. Look for people with 1,000 or more successful sales and who have been on eBay for at least 5 years. That should give you at least as much comfort as buying from a local dealer. And find a few good online auction houses: Stacks, Great Collections, Heritage. Just keep in mind that buyers premiums often run about 25%, $25, or more, on winning bids. An example coming up tomorrow:
coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/mexico-charles-ii-charles-iv-pair-of-uncertified-assorted-reales-total-2-coins-/a/232350-62381.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
Waiting for more of your knowledge and insight 😂
I just order 3 of the 1920-45 72% 16.6 silver peso coins.
Ebay purchase, should be here by July 6th.
I'll let you know how they look !
Hey that's awesome. Hope you get brilliant uncirculated pieces!
I just received my first 3 UN PESOS
O.720
'23, '24, '26.
Very cool !
I'd like to get a few more and a couple in a higher grade.
Nice hefty coin !
That's really neat! Thanks for letting me know, I wondered how you were going to like them! Remember Stacking Mexican Silver 4A AND 4B this weekend!
Just order 2 Uncirculated/BU.
Can't wait !!!
Happy 4th ✌️
Another great one! Thanks for the content.
Thanks so much!
.925 is to the thousandths place. 925 of 1000
Very nice, just Sub
I appreciate it! Right back at you!
@@Dub-C_Coins thanks 👍
Your thoughts on the 1905-1914 20 Centavos and similar coins ?
I kinda like the small size of the coins.
It's a great question. Maybe 20 years ago I shifted from my old habit of buying and hoarding random coins--including pieces like the 20 centavos--pieces that we'd call "subsidiary" issues--in favor of full ounce or near full ounce coins. There is nothing wrong with stacking smaller pieces. In fact there can be benefits. But for me the larger pieces were just easier. I see the smaller fractional pieces more as things to collect now rather than to stack.
Thanks, I have a couple say handfuls of the large coins as in your videos, thought it would be nice to have a well rounded collection.
Sizes, Designs and History.
I ended up just ordering both.
3 smaller 20 Centavo's , 2 early 50 Centavo's and a Large Silver Onza/Libertad.
🙂
❤️1959 w liberated republic on reed
What size coin tube should I be getting for my collection of Un Peso Silver .720 coins ?
Air Tire seem like a good idea but got confused with the inside/ outside dimensions since some are designed for capsules to be placed inside.
I just want my raw coins to slide in & out !
Wow that's a tough call. Airtites are high quality but probably a little more protection than you are after. The 1920-1945 un pesos *should* be 34mm diameter. Very few coins with that same dimension. Would you believe that pre-1933 $20 gold pieces are also 34mm? And there is someone on eBay selling strange little coin tubes for those vintage $20 gold pieces. Each tube holds 10 coins. But since $20 gold pieces are thicker, I'd guess each tube would hold maybe a dozen pesos. The auctions are for 7 of these tubes for $14 including shipping. I just bought a group out of curiosity. Be happy to tell you if they work, or feel free to buy a group yourself:
www.ebay.com/itm/394315767408?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28
Hi, I just received two more Un Peso onza's '43,' 45 silver coins to go along with the other 3 I received last week.
'23, '23, '25 coins.
How should I check to make sure they are real ?
They probably have a metallic property that a magnet will stick to, so not sure if that test is reliable.
Maybe a Ping test with App. ?
Got them from alk from the same EBay dealer at two different times.
Awaiting a BU specimen which cost twice as much as those other coins.
Thanks for the video, I've probably have watched it 4-5 times 😉
Wow that is so cool. If you haven't watched my "Tools You Can Use" videos, I discuss some of the equipment I use when determining a coin's authenticity. My suggestion would be start simple: Get an inexpensive digital scale ($20 or so) on Amazon or eBay. Get a nice quality ruler with centimeters and milimeters (Pacific Arc cost about $7). Go to Numista and find the diameter, thickness, and weight. It's virtually impossible for counterfeits to have the correct weight AND the correct diameter AND thickness. Those inexpensive pieces of equipment will really come in handy. Here's the video:
ruclips.net/video/VJ0MMTLpWJo/видео.html
Two more coins arrived this afternoon. 1932 BU with nice luster and much crisp details.
"White" silver compared to the used, worn earlier coins.
Watching the video you attacked now !
Wasn’t the 49 onza restruck for many years?
Nope. Just one year. But Mexico began striking an almost identical coin 1978 - 1980. I'll go deep into those in the next video :)
What’s a good price to pick up a onza?
$35.. for year 80
Very good video. The 1949 Onza and the later issues in 1978-1980 that were .925 (troy ounce) had no denomination and therefore are not coins as you correctly stated. This is also true of the 1943 issue of the Centenario. All other issue between 1921 and 1947 are denominated as 50 Pesos except the 1943 that only shows the weight and purity of the gold but not the 50 Peso denomination. The 1949 silver Onza and the 1943 Centenario, both without denominations, each were known in Mexico as a "tejo" which means a piece of metal, in this case gold or silver.
Thanks for the info! I've been patiently waiting for a 1943 50 Peso in at least MS63 condition for the very reason that they are that one year, very low mintage type. I think people confuse them with the 1947 restrikes when really they're arguably the key to the series.
Great info.
are there no more? no others? sizes? denominations? years? i was left a bag of coins by my father and grandfather,
A very good point and I deserve that criticism. I don't really do "subsidiary" pieces--the centavo pieces that are fractions of a peso or reale. The varying amounts of silver and smaller size makes them not ideal for "stacking". Nothing wrong with doing so is what you want to do.
@@Dub-C_Coins i just am looking for information to know if the coins i have are silver.
Ahh. You'll need to check online resources. Numista does a nice job with foreign (not American) pieces. If you can't tell what the piece is, try to guess the country, then the denomination (peso, centavo), then the year. Match the image and you should be able to find what the coin was made from:
en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5566.html