@@OCRacing Well I mean, we have, just not in a polished rig like this :) My setup for the longest time for flight simming with rudder pedals was my pedals screwed onto a 2x4 sheet of plywood, then slots cut into the front of the plywood to roll the chair wheels into thus locking the whole thing down :)
Nice review. I bought one of these today, after having been out of stock for months. Still $250. I'm glad your negatives are things I couldn't care less about as I have plenty of room and plenty of physical strength to move this thing around. It looks awesome and I'm sure it's going to be great for the G29 I'm running. Thanks again for the review.
I bought 4 caster wheels from Screwfix Direct in the UK, they cost me £2.20 for all 4 ! It has transformed this bit of kit. You have to have it partially open so all 4 wheels are on the floor so it looks a bit like a Dalek but it makes it really easy to move around. The complaint about connections is something that doesn't bother me either. I have a USB on the front of my pc and the connector for the power supply sits neatly by the side of my pc. Once I have rolled the stand in place it takes me less than ten seconds to connect the two (yes I timed it). The Hardest part is putting the casters of my office chair in the tray which stops it moving, that takes 20 seconds :). I will say it can be a slightly tight fit through doors in the open position if like me one of the doors cant open fully because of furniture. I have to move mine from one room to another and before I put the wheels on my heart sank as I thought... no way every day. Now it really is ok, just get those wheels.
This is definitely the best option for me. Since I don't have a lot of space, but do want to get more serious about sim racing. Just purchased it today. My desk isn't sturdy or stable enough to attach a wheel to it. I think that the things that you consider as negatives on this product aren't things that will bother me.
That thing is awesome for the price. I built an extremely solid wooden one for less than $70. Handles the DD wheel with no problem just can’t move out of my room without taking apart, so the next level racing one is nice that you could fold up and move it if you really had to.
I have bought the DD stand from NLR and now have the seat addon. I think it's good upgrade path and works fine with the Fanatec V3 pedals. although I need to tighten the the screws every coouple of months when it's starting to flex. The DD stand does however has a screw at the end of the pedal tray which keeps it from flexing while I see a lot of flex in the video. The way you can fold this wheel looks really nice and was something I was missing before I dedicated enough space to use a full cockpit. Shame it doesn't have the wheels whicch the DD stand does have. I think the DD stand is better than this in the end. Anyway, nice review as always!
This seems like something to “upgrade” to. I currently have a next level fgt lite and it’s a pain to take out and put away, causing me to not use it much if at all. This seems like something that would be easier to pull out and set up compared to a folding chair, I’m going to have to look into getting one of these.
loosing my mind trying to get one of those in Europe since April... finally ordered one! The best part of this stand is that you can easily DIY the rest of the cockpit in the future and mount on the already drilled holes.
I have the WS 2.0 and have vnm load cell handbrake and h pattern shifter. There was a lot of flex using the handbrake. But It does the job and was drivable, when you pull on the handbrake your not looking at the flex induced on the rig. After buying the gt add-on I have moved the handbrake and shifter to the new shorter mount beside the seat and it is night and day difference.
Thanks for the review. I have this NLR Wheel Stand 2.0 and found that it works well with the 8nm GT DD Pro wheel base. However, it doesn’t hold the chair firmly enough for the CSL load cell brake pedal, which is firm. Maybe it’d work fine with a different load cell pedal or with modded CSL load cell.
@@fans3984 I decided to not use the load cell. The pedal was so firm that I found it unenjoyable. The problem was exasperated by the fact that the chair isn't held in place as well as I would like, although it is still better than a rig that doesn't have anything to hold the chair. My dislike with the load cell firmness may partly be because I'm getting up in the years and my leg strength isn't wat it used to be. I hope you enjoy the load cell setup more than me.
First of all, i love your reviews. So you said thrustmaster tlcm pedal would be fine. So i guess the stand with an office chair could take loadcell pressure of about 100kg. That would be really really awesome. If there was only a solution to stop the chair from swiveling...
I have a similar stand, and I regularly have to fold and unfold it, and plug the wheel, pedals and shifter in. Its not as bad of a hassle as you say, but I understand listing that as a concern.
Thanks for the great review as always! Im looking at picking up the Moza R9 and Simforge Mk1 pedals and was just wondering if the gear would be mountable on this wheel stand? Or would I need the Moza mounting plate?
Great review, major question for you, which chair is that that you’re using? And what recommendations do you have as far as chairs for this specific rug? I agree with you that the chair is so important. I definitely need adjustable arm rests but yours looks really nice with the set up so I’m curious which seat you’re using. Thank you
This is on my radar my current stand is really cheap and light i put a dd wheel on it upgrading my g29 and it gets thrown around by the dd base i have to ratchet strap it to my desk this is a must have especially having the chair cradle i need this
Can you try the GT Omega DD-X Steering Wheel Stand with the extra DD-X Rear Seat Frame and a Seat? I really like your reviews, I heard it was the best cockpit in 2024 for the price and quality.
Thanks for this review. The issues you have would not be issues for me. But I would like to know if there were any issues assembling it. Issues like misaligned hole slots or holes that doesn't seem to take the screws well. Did you have those issues during the assembly?
A bit late but how strong was your dd set up to during your review? I suppose you weren't using the full 16nm the R16 has for the WS2.0. I might be wrong though LOL solid review mate!
So, my question is... Between desk mounting and spending 250$ extra to get this, which one do u think makes more sense for someone who doesnt have that big of a budget. Great video overall just got this question.
Depends how happy you are with your desk setup! If you wish it was more stable & rigid, this would be great. If you think it does a good job, perhaps save up a lot more and purchase a full cockpit later down the road.
@@OCRacing Thanks alot, btw if it wasnt too much to ask, could u tell me the dimensions of the stand when it is in the compacted form? Ive searched online and didnt find any information on this and space is smth i dont have alot so it would be great if u could do it.
I just found your channel and love it. I'm in the process of getting a wheel,shifter and all the goodies. What seat and hardware do you recommend to go with the stand. I want good stuff. I got a high end pc so I want to do it right
Great review! I love the 2.0 wheel stand. The issue I'm having is a 5 wheel seat that feels like a proper seat for it. Like you said a crappy chair will destroy your experience. What is your suggestion for a chair/office setup? I do have a great legitimat racing seat in a car I'm not doing anything with...anyway to possibly fit that to a 5 wheel stand?
This is why Im glad I went with a Secret Labs gaming chair. Its a bucket style seat thats really comfortable and its really high end. Perfect for this wheelstand before I have the money for the seat add-on.
Wild. Looking for a review that mentions mounting/bolts as I just purchased this for my CSL DD. And you have the same office chair as me LOL. Comfortable as hell (autonomous AI)
thanks for the great review! im in the market for a wheelstand due to space constraints. I love the cradle on it as i use a gaming chair with wheels but unfortunately as u also mentioned it doesnt have wheels for easier storage. Do u think i should get the wheelstand DD as it comes with wheels, thus sacrificing the cradle on the wheelstand 2.0? (would probably have to use a chair without wheels or a belt to attach the chair to the wheelstand)
Hey, nice review, binge watched a few of your videos today. I want to play some forza horizon 5, maybe dirt really 2 and some other games. I'll porbably go for the g29, pedals and shifter and likley use the shifter mod you made a video about. Anyways i am debating which stand to get, i am 6ft 6 whether that makes a difference, My options i've seen are; GT Omega classic £99 GT Omega Apex £119 out of stock Next Level foldable (silver foot deck) £144.99 Next Level stand dd/2.0 £79 Is there any options i consider? and which would be best for my height, thanks.
How is it as far as sturdy? I'm looking at either the DD stand or this one. Seems like this one is newer so maybe improvements have been made even over the DD stand because I saw the DD stand does still have flex
I saw another reviewer fold this up with all the wires still attached between the wheel and peddles etc. When you say youd have to unplug everything everytime, do you mean the wires just to the PC or Console?
Great video. I've my old next level wheel stand and New csl dd 8nm and Need more base adjust. I really need folding but i can't understand if 2.0 Is compact as mine, on closes completely as a compass. In the video i see the stand not "full closed". Is that the maximum closure? Thanks in Advance
I bought the wheel stand 2.0 and my TH8A shifter is colliding with the Sparco Handbrake because the handbrake base is too fat. Where did you get the metal piece that extend the handbrake forward?
IF. And that’s a huge IF you can find the gt seat upgrade and I promise you that your not getting it at retail. I have only found one retailer with it and it was 650
I've never owned the Wheel Stand DD. However, from my experience, the 2.0 was able to withstand my direct-drive wheel along with being able to become compact and portable. So if you ask me, this is an upgrade from the wheel stand DD. Compared to the original stand, this is of course a huge upgrade.
@@OCRacing thank you for your reply. But if you said this is a front part of the GTtrack, than I assume it's probably as good if it's not better than the stand DD.
Do you think the Wheel Stand 2.0 is better than the APEX Steering Wheel Stand, as the WS 2.0 is $100 more for me. Also, what are the dimensions of the stand when folded up as I am planning on putting it underneath my bed when I need too.
Sadly this was released a year after I got myself it's older brother. This seems like a step up in every single aspect except the price which is exactly the same, at least from the retailer I looked at. I guess it's time for a replacement since the folding thing is a gamechanger
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just did :)
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2:54 that's it, that's the feature that sold me on it
I’m surprised nobody came up with that before 😂
@@OCRacing Well I mean, we have, just not in a polished rig like this :) My setup for the longest time for flight simming with rudder pedals was my pedals screwed onto a 2x4 sheet of plywood, then slots cut into the front of the plywood to roll the chair wheels into thus locking the whole thing down :)
Nice review. I bought one of these today, after having been out of stock for months. Still $250. I'm glad your negatives are things I couldn't care less about as I have plenty of room and plenty of physical strength to move this thing around. It looks awesome and I'm sure it's going to be great for the G29 I'm running. Thanks again for the review.
I bought 4 caster wheels from Screwfix Direct in the UK, they cost me £2.20 for all 4 ! It has transformed this bit of kit. You have to have it partially open so all 4 wheels are on the floor so it looks a bit like a Dalek but it makes it really easy to move around. The complaint about connections is something that doesn't bother me either. I have a USB on the front of my pc and the connector for the power supply sits neatly by the side of my pc. Once I have rolled the stand in place it takes me less than ten seconds to connect the two (yes I timed it). The Hardest part is putting the casters of my office chair in the tray which stops it moving, that takes 20 seconds :). I will say it can be a slightly tight fit through doors in the open position if like me one of the doors cant open fully because of furniture. I have to move mine from one room to another and before I put the wheels on my heart sank as I thought... no way every day. Now it really is ok, just get those wheels.
Does it have holes for the wheels to screw in or how exactly did you manage?
Can you send me a link please as im in the UK also
This is definitely the best option for me. Since I don't have a lot of space, but do want to get more serious about sim racing. Just purchased it today. My desk isn't sturdy or stable enough to attach a wheel to it. I think that the things that you consider as negatives on this product aren't things that will bother me.
U convinced me buying a g920 and everything u said was accurate KEEP IT UP !
That thing is awesome for the price. I built an extremely solid wooden one for less than $70. Handles the DD wheel with no problem just can’t move out of my room without taking apart, so the next level racing one is nice that you could fold up and move it if you really had to.
Bought the g29 shifter mod you reviewed, i love it thanks loads BTW such a under rated channel
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching :)
Awesome!!
Now all I need is a wheel, pedals, shifter, 2nd computer, mouse, keyboard, monitors, headset and a bank loan 😅
Ah yes… good ol’ sim racing
I have bought the DD stand from NLR and now have the seat addon. I think it's good upgrade path and works fine with the Fanatec V3 pedals. although I need to tighten the the screws every coouple of months when it's starting to flex. The DD stand does however has a screw at the end of the pedal tray which keeps it from flexing while I see a lot of flex in the video. The way you can fold this wheel looks really nice and was something I was missing before I dedicated enough space to use a full cockpit. Shame it doesn't have the wheels whicch the DD stand does have.
I think the DD stand is better than this in the end. Anyway, nice review as always!
Thanks for the comment Groente!
Does this new one not come with such a screw?
GT omega apex wheel stand is also a very great stand for $100 cheaper. Good review
Bro you are so underrated only 15k subs. I don't believe it. Also can't wait for the moza wheel review.
Thank you! The review on the moza wheel is coming soon! Been busy with school and other work recently 😅
@@OCRacing No problem. Also how would I replace the Logitech g29 brake pedal with that mod you showed. Love 💓
I swear, each video is edited better and better
This seems like something to “upgrade” to. I currently have a next level fgt lite and it’s a pain to take out and put away, causing me to not use it much if at all. This seems like something that would be easier to pull out and set up compared to a folding chair, I’m going to have to look into getting one of these.
loosing my mind trying to get one of those in Europe since April... finally ordered one! The best part of this stand is that you can easily DIY the rest of the cockpit in the future and mount on the already drilled holes.
Would have loved to see more angles on the shiftermount flexing. Its really hard to determine if its alot or acceptable. Otherwise a good review.
I have the WS 2.0 and have vnm load cell handbrake and h pattern shifter. There was a lot of flex using the handbrake. But It does the job and was drivable, when you pull on the handbrake your not looking at the flex induced on the rig.
After buying the gt add-on I have moved the handbrake and shifter to the new shorter mount beside the seat and it is night and day difference.
Underrated keep it up mate!
Thanks for the review. I have this NLR Wheel Stand 2.0 and found that it works well with the 8nm GT DD Pro wheel base. However, it doesn’t hold the chair firmly enough for the CSL load cell brake pedal, which is firm. Maybe it’d work fine with a different load cell pedal or with modded CSL load cell.
did you ever find a fix? i'm about to receive the same setup from fanatec and considering ordering.. whats your opinion?
@@fans3984 I decided to not use the load cell. The pedal was so firm that I found it unenjoyable. The problem was exasperated by the fact that the chair isn't held in place as well as I would like, although it is still better than a rig that doesn't have anything to hold the chair. My dislike with the load cell firmness may partly be because I'm getting up in the years and my leg strength isn't wat it used to be. I hope you enjoy the load cell setup more than me.
That is definetly a fair price and not overpriced at all
I like the car in your profile picture 😎
@@OCRacing thanks it was in a car meet in greece
That is some serious flex while braking on the pedal plate support
3:50 missed the shifter LOL nice video
Great review. I believe I will purchase this to pair with my 5nM Fantastic DD Pro. Thank you!
First of all, i love your reviews.
So you said thrustmaster tlcm pedal would be fine. So i guess the stand with an office chair could take loadcell pressure of about 100kg. That would be really really awesome. If there was only a solution to stop the chair from swiveling...
Now that you mention it, I didn’t find my chair swiveling at all!
DIY Motion platform lol, nice vids as always OC
@@OCRacing i think im getting rid of my fgt lite so. It's wobbly and big. Your video convinced me. Thanks
I have a similar stand, and I regularly have to fold and unfold it, and plug the wheel, pedals and shifter in. Its not as bad of a hassle as you say, but I understand listing that as a concern.
Thanks for the great review as always! Im looking at picking up the Moza R9 and Simforge Mk1 pedals and was just wondering if the gear would be mountable on this wheel stand? Or would I need the Moza mounting plate?
6:20 when you let go of the e brake some dirt flies up perfectly in sync and i cant stop watching it lol
5:21 why would you unplug all your stuff from your stuff? its easily movable with everything attached in a room.
Great review, major question for you, which chair is that that you’re using? And what recommendations do you have as far as chairs for this specific rug? I agree with you that the chair is so important. I definitely need adjustable arm rests but yours looks really nice with the set up so I’m curious which seat you’re using. Thank you
I think probably he use the ikea office chair
im glad I found this channel I needed someone to explain this stuff to me lol
Great review 👏. I just got there add for the cockpit lol
Great review, really helped me, thank you!
Is it compatible with the thrustmaster t248
I own it with a simagic M10 bolted to it and it doesn't flex at all. Very good choice if you need to optimize the space that take your rig
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Nice Just scored a slightly used one for 95$. I think i made a pretty good purchase.
Great deal man!
Hi! Really love your vids, i haven't watched but i know it's good already!
Was it good? 😳
@@OCRacing yeah, it was! Nothing but quality vids from you!
This is on my radar my current stand is really cheap and light i put a dd wheel on it upgrading my g29 and it gets thrown around by the dd base i have to ratchet strap it to my desk this is a must have especially having the chair cradle i need this
Can you try the GT Omega DD-X Steering Wheel Stand with the extra DD-X Rear Seat Frame and a Seat?
I really like your reviews, I heard it was the best cockpit in 2024 for the price and quality.
Ur 1st complaint could be solved by HITTING THE GYM lol just kidding, this was best review I’ve seen of the stand
Thanks for this review. The issues you have would not be issues for me. But I would like to know if there were any issues assembling it. Issues like misaligned hole slots or holes that doesn't seem to take the screws well. Did you have those issues during the assembly?
A bit late but how strong was your dd set up to during your review? I suppose you weren't using the full 16nm the R16 has for the WS2.0. I might be wrong though LOL solid review mate!
I am not sure if they updated it since your review, but it does now come with a set of wheels to roll it.
So, my question is... Between desk mounting and spending 250$ extra to get this, which one do u think makes more sense for someone who doesnt have that big of a budget. Great video overall just got this question.
Depends how happy you are with your desk setup! If you wish it was more stable & rigid, this would be great. If you think it does a good job, perhaps save up a lot more and purchase a full cockpit later down the road.
@@OCRacing Thanks alot, btw if it wasnt too much to ask, could u tell me the dimensions of the stand when it is in the compacted form? Ive searched online and didnt find any information on this and space is smth i dont have alot so it would be great if u could do it.
@@alexandregeracao6345 The GT Omega is 125 euro and the same as the NLR Wheel Stand
I just found your channel and love it. I'm in the process of getting a wheel,shifter and all the goodies. What seat and hardware do you recommend to go with the stand. I want good stuff. I got a high end pc so I want to do it right
Great review! I love the 2.0 wheel stand. The issue I'm having is a 5 wheel seat that feels like a proper seat for it. Like you said a crappy chair will destroy your experience. What is your suggestion for a chair/office setup? I do have a great legitimat racing seat in a car I'm not doing anything with...anyway to possibly fit that to a 5 wheel stand?
This is why Im glad I went with a Secret Labs gaming chair. Its a bucket style seat thats really comfortable and its really high end. Perfect for this wheelstand before I have the money for the seat add-on.
Just picked number up from microcenter about1 minute ago headed home to put it together
Wild. Looking for a review that mentions mounting/bolts as I just purchased this for my CSL DD. And you have the same office chair as me LOL. Comfortable as hell (autonomous AI)
Yup lol! It comes with all nuts and bolts needed to mount any sim racing gear btw.
@@OCRacing it does??? I had a bag of extra bolts but I thought it was for the shifter mount which I didn’t assemble.
@@jeffreyjolicoeur8218 yup, all sim racing cockpits and wheel stands come with the necessary nuts and bolts needed ti attach gear
What a coincidence, i was just looking to buy this wheel stand lol 😂
I know 😉
@@OCRacing YOU'RE SPYING ON ME!?
@@mqt5 no comment.
it works with a gran turismo DD pro wheel thank you for your answer
What about this vs. the GT lite cockpit? Both are $200.
thanks for the great review! im in the market for a wheelstand due to space constraints. I love the cradle on it as i use a gaming chair with wheels but unfortunately as u also mentioned it doesnt have wheels for easier storage. Do u think i should get the wheelstand DD as it comes with wheels, thus sacrificing the cradle on the wheelstand 2.0? (would probably have to use a chair without wheels or a belt to attach the chair to the wheelstand)
And for the price of that, you can buy a single th8a shifter.
Hahahahaha… yes 😳😅
gone down now it's cheaper than this rig.
New stand I want good vid oc!
I’m joining team NASA, sorry.
@@OCRacing lol ok 😂
Hey, nice review, binge watched a few of your videos today. I want to play some forza horizon 5, maybe dirt really 2 and some other games. I'll porbably go for the g29, pedals and shifter and likley use the shifter mod you made a video about.
Anyways i am debating which stand to get, i am 6ft 6 whether that makes a difference,
My options i've seen are;
GT Omega classic £99
GT Omega Apex £119 out of stock
Next Level foldable (silver foot deck) £144.99
Next Level stand dd/2.0 £79
Is there any options i consider? and which would be best for my height, thanks.
How is it as far as sturdy? I'm looking at either the DD stand or this one. Seems like this one is newer so maybe improvements have been made even over the DD stand because I saw the DD stand does still have flex
I was just thinking about this one actually
Thank you!
I saw another reviewer fold this up with all the wires still attached between the wheel and peddles etc. When you say youd have to unplug everything everytime, do you mean the wires just to the PC or Console?
Is the wheel base sturdy and steady enough to use for a ultrawide monitor arm clamp? Would it be stable enough for me to brace my monitor on?
Put some caster wheels on and yo are golden
Is there any way to mitigate the flex using the handbrake? Any additional bracing or maybe mounting it beside the wheelbase?
Great video. I've my old next level wheel stand and New csl dd 8nm and Need more base adjust. I really need folding but i can't understand if 2.0 Is compact as mine, on closes completely as a compass. In the video i see the stand not "full closed". Is that the maximum closure? Thanks in Advance
what torque setting were you using on the wheel stand? im getting the 8nm csl dd and might need to buy a wheel stand like this one
For a 8nm csl dd better get the wheel stand "DD" model
I bought the wheel stand 2.0 and my TH8A shifter is colliding with the Sparco Handbrake because the handbrake base is too fat. Where did you get the metal piece that extend the handbrake forward?
Is the gaming chair cradle only available with the 2.0? is there any option to fit something similar to the wheel stand lite?
Nice shoes man what is the exact model of them?
IF. And that’s a huge IF you can find the gt seat upgrade and I promise you that your not getting it at retail. I have only found one retailer with it and it was 650
Very nice
Looks great but I can’t find it anywhere only the 1.0 option.
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How do you prevent the chair to swivel side to side (rotate)?
What is your favourite track
The Nordschliefe of course 😅
Is this a 2.0 upgrade from the original stand or the stand DD? If I am not taking it wrong, you mentioned this is as rigid as the stand DD?
I've never owned the Wheel Stand DD. However, from my experience, the 2.0 was able to withstand my direct-drive wheel along with being able to become compact and portable. So if you ask me, this is an upgrade from the wheel stand DD. Compared to the original stand, this is of course a huge upgrade.
@@OCRacing thank you for your reply. But if you said this is a front part of the GTtrack, than I assume it's probably as good if it's not better than the stand DD.
Sooo uhh i don’t need the DD? 2.0 is fine for csl dd/gt dd/moza r9?
Do you think the Wheel Stand 2.0 is better than the APEX Steering Wheel Stand, as the WS 2.0 is $100 more for me. Also, what are the dimensions of the stand when folded up as I am planning on putting it underneath my bed when I need too.
Wheelstand 2 is more sturdier nadd has a better pedel deck
@@jonneymendoza Okay, thank you.
Just bought this stand for ~€175. What handbrake are you using?
Will it be comfortable to use this stand on a single armchair/sofa?
Is there any way I can add a racing seat to this later on?
Can i get it but use an actual car seat with it? Even if i cant put em together, does anybody know if the stand would be too short or?
Can you use it as formula1 cockpit?
Replace ur chair wheels with flats
How is the pedal flex?
can this stand handle a DD wheel?
It's very wobbly
Would you recommend this for an R21?
Yes if you only use half of the r21 torque!
Triple Screen size and resolution?
40” 1080p TV’s. Nowadays I use triple 27” 1080p though
Would u recommend this over a full gt omega art cockpit?
500$ for a chair, nice!, not even a real car seat would cost that much, and i thought gaming chairs were bad enough.
I can't find this on internet, can someone send me a link ? Thanks you ^^
No
what ist on 4 views but has 7likes
It is what it is
Sadly this was released a year after I got myself it's older brother. This seems like a step up in every single aspect except the price which is exactly the same, at least from the retailer I looked at. I guess it's time for a replacement since the folding thing is a gamechanger
Negatives aint even negatives
2:26 don’t give them any fucking ideas
93rd
Why not 1st?! 😤
wait u said that the dd wheel was for review purposes only
You needs to lift more if you can't lift it 😉
Looks too big and bulky for a small room.
Those are the ugliest shoes ive ever seen
thOsE ARe tHe uGLiEsT sHoES ivE eVEr SeEn 🤓
@@OCRacing Wow, we're back in 2017, crazy. Just take the L on the shoes bro, they are as whack as your memes
@@ZBL1996 nice