Unlucky: 3 Incidents In 3 Days For Qantas Boeing 737-800s
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2022
- A Qantas jet was struck by lightning during a flight in Western Australia on Tuesday, August 9. The Boeing 737 was operating a scheduled passenger service from Perth to Port Hedland when the incident occurred on the descent. The incident was one of three across three days at Qantas in an unlucky trifecta involving their workhorse Boeing 737-800 aircraft…
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Each incident seemed to be handled correctly judging by the information given
Being an Aussie myself, it makes me smile hearing "request fireries" (Aussie slang for firefighters) 👍
I was just about to comment on exactly the same thing. Nice to know that Qantas pilots don't lose their Aussieness during an emergency.
Unfortunately there have been incidents where crew have used words that are not known to others, creating confusion. English is the universal language of aviation.
Requesting dollariedoos
As a Yank, I smiled too, because I have never heard that word!
@@OsmaroAcosta you have to appreciate this was a domestic flight and that all citizens of australia are required to know about fireries and tradies and various other shorten words in order to pass school. I’m sure an international crew would use more universal language but to be fair if you start talking like an American down here you are more likely to cause confusion that using our special enhanced English en-au
Qantas handled it professionally and opted for safety in all 3 of the cases.
There's really only one possible cause. Someone at Qantas's corporate office must have created a sign to show how many days since an accident.
The first one isn’t the plane’s fault. Lightning strikes happen. Worked in Aviation as a ground staff. Seen A380s and A350s been delay as the engineers check the plane after a lightning strike. It’s nothing new. Just a safety precaution.
He never claimed it was? It obviously isn't
@@moritlh There was a few comments earlier blasting Boeing for this (that was deleted).
bad luck always comes in 3's....but it was all a fluke as far as i'm concerned since Qantas has one of the best safety records in all of aviation and will continue to do so in my own opinion.
So sad that Qantas as a whole takes the fall for these incidents when they should be applauded by how well the crew handled them
Good safety record, terribly predatory business practices
I'm flying Qantas next week and these events don't really bother me because Qantas still has one of the best safety records in the history of aviation.
As a flight attendant for Qantas you're in really good hands. the staff on board are highly trained to make sure you're safe. "Everyone has the right to go home safely"
@@Mike-of2nr after those flights, I agree. We had a delay on ground for 40 minutes because of a food catering issue and there was a toddler screaming for most of it. The flight attendant was trying to calm them down with some little things like a book.
The same cannot be said for their budget flights run by Jetstar… recently they’ve just lost all of their little reputation from me. I was flying home from Sydney and they kept us grounded for 2 hours, only for us to be asked to leave for 40 minutes, then loaded back on.
This was after they moved my flight to earlier in the day. So we ended up taking off at the same time that the original flight was scheduled 😑
@0:45 Nice Lighting Effect👌
3 incidents in 3 days covered in 3 minutes.
I'm quite surprised Port Headland airport doesn't have all that infrastructure considering the amount of passengers fly there weekly and stating itself as an international terminal at one stage...
Yeah that's surprising, we have a manned ARFF station at Avalon, and we only have about five flights a day, if that, all Jetstar. But I guess we have firies as we are a major diversion field, and we can land anything upto and including A380's and B-52 bombers, so that's probably why we have fire services.
Maybe its because Karratha is so close. If, like this flight, there is trouble then its almost no time to divert to Karratha.
@@touchofgrayphotos Hedland has about 10 flights a day. Biggest would be A320
These incidents are noteworthy even though safety of passengers and crew were not really in doubt. Shows how much passenger air safety has improved over the years. There is usually more awareness of Qantas incidents when there are wage and condition negotiations under way.
I was stuck by lighting a couple days before the port hedland flight, guess it wasn't news worthy because we didn't diivert prior to landing in Perth.
For your comments on Port Hedland airport, it has both ATC and full-time fire crews. They only diverted because Karatha has maintenance services.
Flames coming out of the engine, but we don't know why. Okay, back I to service.
This makes me nervous.
All inspections were carried out according to the AMM. It was returned to service because nothing was inherently wrong.
I was on QF1206, and we were struck by lightning on climb out of Perth not on decent into Port Hedland.
Wow. Not a lucky day indeed for those 3 QF 737-800s
Wow very unlucky for Qantas...
No people or planes seem to be the worse for the 3 incidents.
Not great to have 2 engines with problems but then they don't last the life of an aircraft.
Some would say they were lucky.
Nah, just normal aviation issues to me. Planes get struck by lightning routinely which is why they have static wicks on trailing edges of wings to discharge stray current safely. The engine issues could just be growing pains for the 800. I'm sure maintenance crews are working on plans to resolve them.
But wait, there's more! QF46 operating from Denpasar to Melbourne on August 14, also operated by a Boeing 737-800, diverted to Adelaide, landing in Adelaide during curfew hours. What was that all about - anyone know?
All is well, no one hurt, things break. Carry on.
It isn't policy to inspect aircraft after lightning strike it is a maintenance manual requirement as per AMM 05-51-27 unscheduled maintenance. You need to find the entry and exit points of the lightning strike. All damage must be identified and mapped out and corrected before RTS. Any damage around fasteners and rivets must have mandatory NDI and fasteners must be replaced with oversized fasteners. . All avionics must have functional checks done and bonding leads need to be inspected. Flight controls bearings need to be inspected. Static wicks need to be inspected and replaced as per the inspection requirements. There is no airline policy that governs lightning strike its driven purely by the AMM. If no damage is found than the aircraft can be released to service. I have done numerous lightning strike inspections in Brisbane due to our natural weather phenomenon. Lightning strike inspection is extensive and the plane could possibly be grounded for days unless an engineering order is issued for a fly along until permanent repairs can be made.
Isnt't is only an avionics inspection if the pilots report malfunctioning avionics?
@@ReasonsWhy1 If lightning strike is reported it is inspected as per unscheduled maintenance under ATA 0500, lightning strike involves everything from avionics to structure of the aircraft, flight controls. Its important to find entry and exit points. Structural repairs are carried out per SRM (Structural Repair Manual) . Just because pilots report malfunction with avionics, inspection doesn't stop at that. I have done countless lightning strike inspections and have grounded airplanes because of the damages found.
@@ameetnarayan9219 Ah ok. And yes i don't doubt you've done many inspections.
I'm glad all incidents just ended up delaying passengers rather than jeopardising their safety
I saw the Queenstown to Brisbane divert to Christchurch
It was the Brissy Perth flight last week that ran out of fuel that you didnt talk about which was the bigger issue!
Ah no that is not correct.
I can add no 4
Two weeks ago from 16/8/22 our aircraft from Madang to Port Morsby there was an incident with the escape set on the door to the was a door failure in flight and the aircraft had to do an emergency decent to 10 thousand and an emergency landing.
Pan Pan Pan, we need the Fireies !!!!LOL
I took off from heathrow and plane was struck 3 times immedially at rotation. Awesome
Why no music?
As planes have been out of service for a long time and parked up they may not of had the full thorough going over b4 full flights resumed again this could be due to staff engineer and maintenance personnel shortages
There have been more incidents recently. However no lives have been lost on a Boeing aircraft operating within Australia
Just something that can happen.. nothing to worry about
It’s probably the way the engine is design the 737 has a kinda semi circle type whiles others are round one
All issues look to have been safely and quickly responded to. Very happy for that!! It is a pity that 90% of AU domestic travel is on 15-20 year old 737's
Not for long.
@@ReasonsWhy1 Very excited about the new Max and Neo aircraft coming to AU in 2023 and beyond!!
@@kingsleydawes7244 Me too. can't wait to see the new firstclass in the 350's.
Be a lot of 350s
@@kingsleydawes7244 Jetstar already has it's first Neo, landed in MEL about two weeks ago
There's black clouds looming over boeing
None of these issues in this video are even remotely related to Boeing.. ... . .....
As I do not know the duration of the ground time inspection of the airplane that had an engine fire, as a former chief ground engineer I would be reluctant to let that airplane continue to fly with that same engine. .
Any pilots here? Are lightning-strikes indicative of poor cu-nim avoidance or can strikes occur even when an aircraft is some way distant them?
Firies? An Australianism.
Firefighters 😎
@@Phiziks Cheers! We Brits are renowned code-breakers.
@@well-blazeredman6187 lmao
Qantas weather avoidance policy is no different from any other major North American or European airline. Just unlucky this time.
Oh well no one killed or injured Qantas still has world's best safety record for all their current issues!
Time to go Airbus for your narrow bodies, QF, they never get hit by lightning, only Boeings and Airbus engines never fail.
An Airbus plane has just a high of chance of being struck by lighting as a Boeing aircraft. Furthermore, the issues with the other two planes were with the engines, not the fuselages. The engine companies are to blame for any incident, not Boeing itself.
@@averyharris9949 The comment he made was pure sarcasm. No need to correct him. If it was not, it's trolling and should not be replied to. There really should be a sarcasm font on RUclips.
Half correct because in pia 8303 flight after go around both engines failed
But I still like airbus
@@Tokamak3.1415 Lol that's not sarcastic at all!... plus Qantas is getting a l o t of airbus's soon.
It's weird how the 737 is still keeping it's reputation unlike the dc 10 which's reputation had died very fast
Yep. Now hazard a guess at how many 737 hull-loss accidents there have been - and then take a look at the Wiki page. I was shocked.
@@well-blazeredman6187 Apparently, the figure for 737 hull-losses is 181. This may sound like a lot, but bare in mind that the 737 has been flying for over five decades, and that over 11,000 have been built. If you do the maths, only about 1.6% of 737s have been crashed.
@@aviationlba747 i absolutely agree with you at that, but the thing that should Reduce it's reputation is design flaw incidents, for an example, the dc 10 lost it's reputation mostly because of the two cargo door crashes were mostly caused of design flaws, but the 747 never lost reputation although it caused the tenerife incident cus it wasn't a design flaw, but then, the lion air and Ethiopian air incidents, why they didn't lower the 737's reputation
@@random_troll1499 Yes, indeed. It’s a strange one.
@@aviationlba747 Another thing to keep in mind is that the high majority of them weren’t caused by a design flaw. Many were caused by pilot error or other uncontrollable circumstances.
Like waiting for a bus . Wait for ages and 3 come along together.
The sydney incident was over pretty quick as that 737 flew to perth about 4 hours later no problems. 🤔
the third one is weird...hope they get to the bottom of it - it could have been an unmitigated disaster had it not been spotted or the fire started once in the air
It's about the max 😱 come on people it happens all the time.
Watching this as I’m up in the air on a 737-800 😂
I think this kind of incidents are on the rise after som many planes have been i storage and such for a long time now.
Storage does not effect the chance of lightning strikes and all return to service procedures are carried out on all aircraft parked for more than 48 hours.
Well we have just had 2 in 2 days on the 737-8 first was engine failure second was the same.
Would have expected Port Headland to have larger airport than Karratha. It has large industrial operations and a large port. From a safety point of view, if aircraft waas already on descent to Port Headland, it would have been safer to continue landing process instead of accelerating back up, reconfigure aircraft for flights and starting brand new landing once near Karratha. (but one could argue that after lighning strike, perhaps they needed time to verify everything was still working before continuing with landing). However, if it diverted to Karratha because they have maintenance facility there, then the diversion is one of convenience, not one of safetty since safety is about the current flight, not thinkking about what to do with aircraft after it has landed.
You should visit Port Headland, that will explain it all.
You've obviously never been to Port Hedland.
Karratha has been preferred over Hedland in city development and facilities. It had to be one or the other, they're only 2 hours apart by road. Minutes away by air. I'm surprised they didn't just bus the passengers into Hedland.
@@rais1953 Too Simple, Qantas might get praise for being customer focused!
@@robertlee6338 Am somewhat surprised of the "abort and then check" still being standard procedure. One of the key findings in Swissair 111 was the crew going by the book and delaying landing until they were done with checklist by which time it was too late.
Would have expected new procedures to focus on PF flying and other pilot doing the checks and abort landing only if necessary.
Had lightning ingnited a fire in cargo hold for instance (I know, very unlikely), then the extra minites of aborting landing and heading to Karratha could have been deadly;
Omg
under staffed, and ground crew intermittently on strike might be assisting in the recent increase in qantas mechanical issues
There was only one mechanical issue in this video.
The first one was an act of God, the last one was a non-event.
Dunno why, but Quantas just seems like the type of airline this would happen to 😂
Qantas used to be pretty good. (Not Singapore, or Emirates good.. but pretty good)
CEO Alan Joyce illegally sacked thousand of staff during the pandemic.
Qantas has the highest flight delay rate and cancellation rate of any airline in Australia.
Getting stuck sleeping on the floor of an airport after your Qantas flight was cancelled and your luggage goes on a 2 week international vacation (without you) is now known as "getting Joyced".
Qantas isn't special in that either Companies in the EU and USA did the same thing after receiving government subsidies to keep their staff employed during the pandemic. The US had says where over 500 flights are canceled and thousands are delayed. American Airlines has mastered the 6am flights being canceled at 8pm due to a short storm.
You can't put Emirates or Qantas in the same category as Singapore Airlines. Those two together still aren't half as good as Singapore Airlines.
Qantas is a rubbish airline now. Yeah, it's safe, but that's all it has going for it.
Flight delays cause by militant ground crew deliberately disrupting the airline.
I fly with qantas every 2 weeks, think that are very safe although there planes are starting to age. Fokker 100's doing a lot of kilometres
I know that if any of those incidents happened onboard an aircraft on which I was a passenger, I'd much rather be on a QF aircraft than any other airline.
Well its not like qantas can stop lightning, also planes are meant to withstand it
They need to check it more carefully so it won’t happen again
What, lightening?
Check what?
Fear mongering for clicks. As an AME I see this kind of stuff happen on the daily to all types of aircraft.
I agree. What port are you based at?
Then how QF can be the safest airlines?
No crashes in 100+ years of service... All machines have issues. especially aircraft.
unlucky
To be expected Sooner or later will see more as more Boeing plane fly
What is happening with our national airlines.
Are we trying to make the 737NG or Qantas look bad? It's random chance. I don't see any reason for concern. The responses to the incidents were all in the interests of safety, so Qantas should be praised. In the case of diversion to Christchurch, the landing in Queenstown would be unnecessarily challenging on one engine and Christchurch probably has better facilities as well as less challenging approach and departure paths.
Sacked the best mechanics in the world and outsourced it. Qantas planes are having more incidents all the time and every one is just one closer to their first crash.
Sacked what mechanics??
All of the Qantas Heavy maintinace hangers at Avalon have all be rented out to various companies, the place over that side of the port is like a ghost town.
i don't get how anyone can trust these roller-stampers again
I know that jetconnect used to run the flights from new Zealand in Qantas colours I'm guessing that is still the case after covid
Jet connect ceased operations in December 2018. It's run by Qantas mainline now.
Alan Joyce is getting rich whilst killing QANTAS. Could be bad luck or could be that Joyce has laid off the experienced QANTAS staff and is left with cheap replacements.
I think the Gods just hate the 737.
Maybe with the lighting strike but they are common enough.
As for the other two that would be the engine manufacturers.
They are not a permanent part of the plane.
Were they Jabbed ?
hope not...
Anything 737 has felt dubious for a long time.
I prefer not to travel on a 737 if I can avoid it!
I don't understand sorry mate. There's been problems before but this happens alot with all airlines
The first one isn’t Boeing’s fault. Lightning strikes do happen. It would be saying Airbus is at fault for US Airways 1549 for the aircraft having multiple bird strikes.
@@MasterofBlitz And the engines are made by CFM (GE/Safran). The same engines that power most of the Airbus A320 family.
Literally none of the issues in this video are remotely related to Boeing.
Memo to Qantas Staff. Mr G Almighty is not happy about you loosing his bags!
QANTAS = Quite A Nice Trip Never Again 😉
Try harder
When you push past engineering limit then boo
What engineering what that ?
U can stop Being bashing now QF already got the A320 neo.
Time for them to get rid of those pieces of junk
Tomorrow: Very Unlucky: Four Incidents in Four Days For Qantas Boeing 737-800s
Average day in the office
I will never fly on this airline now, there planes get no service, is very dangerous airline !!!
What exactly is the point of this ? Just Qantas bashing !
for those that blame Boeing for engine problems, you have to blame Airbus for QF32, AF66, and PW1100/1500g issues. otherwise, you are logically inconsistent and are therefore illogical.
Least passionate Boeing fanboy.
Qantas is sadly on a steep decline!
How so Sam? Are you referring to their safety or their product offering. These incidents could happen to any airlines. I think that if I am on any of those 3 flights I would be confident they know how to get me home.
Unblemished record for many dozens of years. Past 12 months has not been good for Qantas. Maintenance and QC needs to be stepped up to regain national support.
@@AussieInUS It's not maintenance thats the issue.
Is 737 a dangerous plane to ride? Will never go with one.
737 is not inherently dangerous, these accidents were unrelated to the 737s inherent design.
The 737NG (737-600, 737-700, 737-800 and 737-900) are safe, these 3 accidents were just unlucky.
The 737MAX is the one with the problems, but they have been fixed, however many ppl still don't want to fly on the MAXs.
This comment is just ignorant.
its called a hat-trick
The 737 is jealous that Qantas is switching to Airbus that’s all
Remember when Quantas was the best in the world? The good ol days...
There was never lightning in the good ol' days.
@@ImperrfectStranger not for Qantas.
They still are
moral of the story: never be an airline based in australia with boeing narrowbodies.
I’M KIDDING. aircraft are not to blame.
Nobody:
Literally EVERY airline in Australia after seeing this comment: 😳
What is going on with our airline? I hope the new fleet is better & not so old ' but always they seem to fix it & put their passengers safety first, since covid theyve had disruptions of no fly, lack of staff, although they serously need to rid of that Allan Joyce, he, s paid to much as well other board members & need to pay their workers a fair or above & bonus wages more often. We must keep our airlines flying despite covid . Keep the kangaroo fying.
So basically stay away from 737-800's
Only even remotely a story because it’s Qantas any other airline wouldn’t have made news 👍
There was a time when Qantas invested its safety reputation in its pilots and engineers. Now it seems any fool in a car can get an aircraft to stop. Non-technical observers are notoriously unreliable and cannot be relied on to make serviceability judgments on aircraft. The captain was put into a difficult position by the passing of such a message to him. If I were him I would have said ‘thank you very much, I’m taking off anyway’.
What!? I hope you're joking.
You serious mate.. hope not. If ATC confirms flames from ENG 1 or 2 thats good enough for me.
I sure hope you're not a pilot. Apperently you're willing to put your lives and your passangers lives in very serious danger. I hope you're not actually that wreckless at your job. And ATC wouldn't be clearing you for takeoff anyway.
No brainer to taxi back to the gate on 1 engine and have a coffee while it’s looked at. You in a rush to take a problem into the air are you?
Sounds like a hit piece on Boeing 737-800s. And perhaps misdirected from Quantas Maintenace to Boeing. And the CFM engines are just as prevalent on A320 family planes.
Facts are facts, maybe you like your facts alternative?
Ok Booing fanboys... Y'all like Booing news... Here are some... Lol
Luckily Qantas has opted for the A220 and A321XLR over the 737 max
Looking forward to trying the A220 if I can afford a ticket on Qantas.
Boeing isn’t really to blame for these incidents though. Those Airbus planes use the same engines
@@mattzagrocki445 Boeing is deeply to blame over the 737MAX catastrophe and responsible people in Boeing should have been prosecuted. But the 737-800 is a good reliable aircraft, a credit to the original 737 designers. Even the 787 is a brilliant design and family members who've flown on it enjoyed the experience. I hope Boeing can recapture those days.
@@rais1953 I was speaking explicitly of the three aforementioned incidents in the video. 737 max program is a whole different story.
@@rais1953 those crashes, horrible though they were, always have multiple contributing factors. There were some decisions made by the flight crew that were not along procedure. Wouldn’t wanted to have been there, but we must be honest with everything that contributed to those tragedies. Not just one
Maybe that’s why they are getting rid of the Boeing 737 and Qantas don’t crash
Did you even watch the video?
None of these issues in this video are even remotely related to Boeing.. .
Qantas don’t crash because they jump on small faults and Boeing 737 are average of 23 years old get many more faults than younger aircraft so they need to get rid of them as soon as possible
If its a Boeing , I aint going .
None of these issues in this video are even remotely related to Boeing.. .
The QANTAS management states that it is caused by the passengers, who are brave enough (or want their life insurance paid out) to trust the QANTAS management.
A group from the kangaroo union wants a higher, advertising, pay rate.
Should switch to A320s
Absolutely nothing to do with LGBTIQ etc rights. Which is refreshing.