I ALMOST DIED | My Experience With Benzodiazepines | Jordan Peterson
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2023
- Jordan Bernt Peterson is a Canadian media personality, clinical psychologist, author, and professor emeritus at the University of Toronto. He began to receive widespread attention as a public intellectual in the late 2010s for his views on cultural and political issues, often described as conservative.
In this video, Jordan Peterson talks about his experience with Benzodiazepines and Akatisia.
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I survived it for nearly 3 years...with ZERO help from anybody..... Benzo damage is literal HELL ON EARTH.
How much were you taking when you were at your highest dose?
@@gwenwalker758 I only took 1MG of Ativan once per day for about 2 weeks
How long have you been off them for now? I'm 40 days OFF and still have horrible CNS symptoms 😢
@@lisasmith814 My taper ended about 4 years ago
@@lisasmith814 What are your symptoms if I may ask. Im tapering off benzos too.
Jordan Peterson. I hope you can now use your platform to get word out about this global medical catastrophe.
Yes.
You mean MEDICAL CRIME DON'T YOU?
@@incognito595 bloody oath it is !!!!!!
I am a victim too. Forced psychiatry. Forced akathisia. No one knows what it is. They treat it like a movement disorder. "Hold out your arms".
@@Adam-qt1sz I know it's a bloody CRIME !!! I'm 4 months off benzo's after it was prescribed to me for 26 years !!! I ended up polydrugged because of this dangerous poison !!!!! I have paxil to go and I'll finally be FREE !!!!!!
Stopped cold turkey
After paradoxical reaction.five years later still have sptoms.hell is a nice place compared to what i went through
It can get pretty extreme. I have experienced it extremely and chronically over 22 years.
Im 2 years off..
Avoid benzodiazepines at all costs. It took me ages to taper off these
Benzo's is pure and utter hell on earth..nothing comes close😊
About 4 years of 2mg clonazepam daily. My psychiatrist retired and new one didnt give me prescription to clonazepam any more. Luckily i had some boxes left for this exact reason.
Tapering was really easy for me actually. Week one - daily dose of 1.5mg
Week two - daily dose of 1.25mg
Week three - daily dose of 1mg
From there on, i lowered the dose by 0.1mg per week.
I stopped taking it, when the daily dose was 0.2mg because i didnt have any withdrawal symptoms.
I dissolved tablets in liquid, so i could measure the exact amount i needed.
It took me about 8 weeks to get off, i was working at the same time and living my life, no clinic, vacation or anything like that.
If u go cold turkey, taper too fast or taper in too big increments, then its going to be real bad and potentially dangerous.
As smooth as possible is the key.
Yeah good for you. Nice for rubbing it in people's faces because it's not easy
Good on you for knowing how to taper, most people don't and rely on stupid doctors
You are extremely lucky. I was on 0.5 mg for 12 days and I'm not even halfway tapering yet after 6 months.
Thats a perfect way to do it, you did a great work and fast too some people require more time to do it. Great work.
@@xy-qy2yg keep doing it in no time you will not even going to think that you need it. Continue the great work
38 years taking 4mg Clonazepam, Quit CT , No help at all because it turned me into a very bad nasty person. 8 years to recover.👊
Dont do that man you gonna die
@@yuka-gb4ij prescription medication for epilepsy.🥵
Prescription medication for epilepsy, Had to take it 🥵🤷♂️
@@scottshaw1714 im talking bout cold turkey benzodiazpines withdrawl bro ohh youve already succeeded congrats ive been on 6mg clonazepam for 10 years im 27 tryin to kick it
@@scottshaw1714did you say you have been off 8 years? How do you feel now? Recovered?
what a great human being mr. peterson is
Imagine having no family or friends? Just support from members on groups? a therapist and nasty evil doctor who refuse to listen?
God I wish I could help!!!!!don't give up!!!no shame in Goin to hospital...you got a friend!!!
Same here...3.5 years off and still housebound, people don't believe us.
I am travelling this evil road alone. 40 days OFF 25mg valium daily, after a rapid detox in hospital. 26 YEARS I took this SHIT !! Prescribed by my so called expert Dr. I have a hissing, sizzling noise in my brain and body 24/7 !! Not to mention all the other horrific symptoms. Benzodiazepines leave your brain unable to operate without them. It's not until they are CEASED that you realise just how much bloody damage has been done 😢
@@pattilynnwahlsimmons It's not that I don't believe you, rather that you account doesn't seem logical. 1) If you are housebound 3.5 year later, perhaps you should be medicated. 2) People that are depressed and or anxious benefit from these drugs. Who is to say that you wouldn't have gotten worse anyway if you had never taken the drugs.
I took these drugs for years. One day I felt better and stopped taking them. Had I not suddenly gotten better, I probably would either still be on them or blaming not being well on the drugs. I want through hell with anxiety and depression and those drugs saved me. Whatever I was going through, it lifted around the same time the hair on my legs thinned out so I suppose the reason was hormonal but unlike you, just because it seems to correlate and the timeline is exact, doesn't make it factual. Why I got better suddenly might have been a result of getting older and the physical changes we undergo but I cannot be sure.
@@user-cg1qq2er8x I don’t understand what you are talking about. It’s not unusual to be sick 3.5 yrs. later. I was prescribed benzos 22 yrs. ago for Lupus. I never increased my dosage or had a problem on the meds. A new doctor just took me off the meds. I am not depressed and the anxiety started with acute withdrawal, not before. I’m physically impaired as in no energy, insomnia, tremors, dizziness, imbalance, and tinnitus. I hope this clears things up for you. Again, I don’t understand your point at all.
The feeling of detachment was the most scary symptom for me. Although I never experienced it with Benzos, I actually experienced it with Amitriptyline. I had never felt anything like it. I felt like a walking dead person, I had no ability to feel anything any joy i felt numb to everything it was awful. I immediately stopped taking them right there.
Ty sir!!!!!!!!!YOUR NOT A COWARD!¡!!!Jordan Peterson not a coward!!!!
Such a " harmless" tiny pill,yet 5x worse than any drug to detox off of.
How about like 5,000x more difficult?
@@incognito595💯
If it wasn’t for benzo buddies on line ,I would have lost it totally , had no idea what was going on thought I was going crazy, took me 3 yrs. Aloha
I’ve experienced akasthesia for maybe 2 or 3 minutes a few times in my life when I stopped taking Valium for a week. It was hell. I cannot imagine the torture of going through that for months.
I endured it for 2 years
How are we supposed to do this?
Going through a cold turkey withdrawal currently and feeling a though there is only one way to end this, I would love to know what that medication change that helped him was. This is inhumane. Torture. Fate worse than death. These meds are the devil in disguise
Same how are u
@@reemhamouri9633 still about the same. I m sorry you are going through it too.
I heard on a podcast he took agmatine and it took most of his symptoms away. I don't know if that's what he's referring to in this video.
I finally heard on a Jordan Peterson video that I shouldn't be taking benzos longer than 2-4 weeks due to brain damage and increased risk of dementia (I had been prescribed klonopin 1.5 to 2 mg nightly, taken as directed for 28-1/2 YEARS). I contacted my doctor asking to stop! She said "okay, stop". No mention of taper.
That was 32 months ago and I haven't taken another one. Withdrawal was horrific, deadly. Acute withdrawal lasted 5-6 months. Didn't leave my apartment, couldn't imagine driving as I couldn't sleep, be still, focus, read, speak well enough to make sense. Couldn't swallow sometimes. Vomiting, diarrhea, heart racing/pounding, hyperventilation, panic/terror, twitching, sweating, severe itching, cramping, burning, bad hearing, blurry vision, crying, pleading, horrible nightmares if I dropped off for a few minutes. Burning mouth, jaw clenching, neck spasms, migraines. I had actual thoughts of killing myself, which shocked me. I'm 69 and wanted to just get over this without alarming my children. Every day I thought I might be better, kept hoping I wouldn't have to go to hospital, thinking if I did go to ER they'd give me more benzos and I thought I might die if I had to start over again. Had never heard of benzo withdrawal or the need to taper, and my doctor never suggested a taper. I wrote messages to my doctor on the office portal and she seemed annoyed at my questions and requests for any help, judging from her eventual replies to my requests for help.
Now I find my personality is completely different than before. I'm quieter, easily very angry and short tempered, not me at all. I'm extremely hypersensitive to all senses and temperature. I avoid...everything and everyone. My heart still races and I saw a cardiologist who diagnosed me with ventricular tachycardia, never had heart trouble before.
I also have chronic burning pain in head, neck, jaws, lips, back, arms/elbows/wrists, right hip, low back, genital areas, legs, feet checked by neurology. I was diagnosed with small fiber neuropathy and ulnar nerve entrapment.
I have lost years of my life and it's getting late in the game. I just hope I get better as time passes, what choice do I have now?
How are you doing?
Thank you for this..I'm tapering off and it's awful... I had to.use it alot from a disease
I’m doing a liquid taper from Ativan and it’s horrible.Every knew you could taper and feel so horrible.
You usually hear these miraculous stories of endurance from people who say they couldn't have done it without support from family and friends. I guess the people who are lonely don't survive and get to tell the tale so much. So if you take pills when you're a societal reject such as me, you're basically doomed. I guess if it wasn't for my adopted dogs I'd still be a zombie myself.
Speaking as a person from the isle of misfit toys, I lost everything and was alone. I’m 5.5 years off at 54yo. 20 years on and in an abusive relationship. And I survived. I’m beginning to thrive. As misfit me. And I’m ok with that now.
@@opossumdreams right there with ya brother. Nobuddy understands and the rest don't care. That's a your problem kinda thing. Git over it, they say. Somebuddy needs to start a class action lawsuit. Worse than opiates I think.
@@Misfit-from-Zanti I’m a sister girl! But as far as a law suit? Once another med is added, no lawyer will take the case. If you find one? You have to put up a minimum of $50,000 up front, for expenses. And I’m tired. But I looked.
Imagine not having any friends or family to support you. It's straight hell. Constant arguing, people thinking this shit Is joke and not caring. I stay away from people.
Yes, unfortunately you are correct. I have been dealing with a protracted benzodiazepine injury which lead to akathesia, which is the worst possible feeling imaginable. I have been suffering horrifically. I joined a few great groups on Facebook called living with akathesia. Without these groups and my amazing family I would have never survived this hell. These groups are all we have. Doctors and the medical system are absolutely no help at all! In fact they do nothing but make it worst. I have lost 10 or 12 friends to suicide from these groups because these people had little to no support system. Even family members as well intended as the can be often are very little to no help. Like Jordan said we suffer so bad that everyone around us suffers. It is really sad because we have no where to turn because if we mention the word suicide there is a food chance they put you in a psychological facility where they will poly-drug you making things much worse.
This med has destroyed my entire life it dead and gone. While taking as prescribed 20+ years. Now tappering it's pure mental and physical torture, it terrifing, I'm a shell of who I was
Everyone has left gone.
No one believes me.
No one can truely understand what this is like. I'm alone 24/7 no support. Extremely depressed seeing only one way out, scared to leave my bedroom let alone my house to many symptoms to list. Can't function.
I really hope this brings more Awareness , Reserach laws changed.
Im absolutely I'm furious im this position from trusting Drs not by my own doing.
The fact this isn't recognised by majority of so called professionals and they dismiss you ,which then means absolutely no one believes you. Making this 100% harder to survive and a extremely lonely, isolated exsistence in this world with no where to turn too.
You got this. I lost everything and had 3 years of severe akathisia but made it out. Do not give up, neuroplasticity is a great thing.
They diagnosed me with schizophrenia and made me take meds for two more years prolonging my symptoms
I was and am almost completely alone. If you need someone to talk to let me know I’ve never talked to anyone really who’s experienced this
Best part is i live in Serbia. And Belgrade Galenika pharm comphany. Has somehing thad can help with withdrawal like Jordan Peterson say it. But they won.t share it. Im about to kill my self after 5 years of xanax. I can.t life anymore. I see no way out. And im only 29... I hope you all do fine and have a happy life.
@@kiffu94 Dont do it dude. I suffered from 3 years of severe akathisia but got through it. We do heal.
You okay buddy? Would love to hear from you
My doctor took me off klonopin cold turkey. I asked him about it and he said owe you may have a rough couple days but your body will crash and then you'll get sleep and be better. Almost a year later and almost loosing everything im still struggling with post acute withdraw symptoms. Went to different hospitals and they could do nothing. Went to detox center and they couldn't help. finally went to a 30 day trauma center and it was really good but didn't address the bend challenges that im still facing. Any words of advice DR. Peterson?
Would have been nice if he could tell you what changes were made in Serbia to Blunt the trauma as well as talk about the induced coma!
Yes my ex doctor alcoholic husband kept
Me On Lexapro for 20 years.
I’m Off and normal!
I just got prescribed it. Why did you get off ?
lexapro is not a benzo not even close
Psychotropic drugs should never be used. For every harmful synthetic there is a natural alternative such as herbs that work better
@@a.m.2066 The problem is the drugs cause permanent alterations to the mind and nervous system and does cause permanent damage. Sedation can be achieved with herbs that can have an effect without causing alteration of the mind. Is safe for long term use and no withdrawal syndrome.
They should be legalized regulated and taxed 😊
@@Silverado1234 Which one?
@@capresti3537 ALL
@@capresti3537all?
Pure hell.
I found my way into a message board somewhere. Anesthesiologists discussing reactions to…benzodiazepines. When they cause agitation instead of sedation. Some drs understand. Not the ones we’d see, asking for help.
the music in the background is overwhelming nd makes his story far less hard hitting, then it should be. shouldve made it far more quite.
Its been 2 years since i stupidly went cold turkey on prozac after 5 years, and damn i can relate. Once you stop, the anxiety you were treating goes through the roof for ages.
9months!!!!IM IN THE MIDDLE OF IT!!!THERES NO HELP......ITS ALL ON ME...!!!J.P. SAVED MY LIFE,IM STILL STRUGGLING...
Best part is i live in Serbia. And Belgrade Galenika pharm comphany. Has somehing thad can help with withdrawal like Jordan Peterson say it. But they won.t share it. Im about to kill my self after 5 years of xanax. I can.t life anymore. I see no way out. And im only 29... I hope you all do fine and have a happy and long life.
It will pass it gets better
Hey how r u?
Hopefully you're still ok
Protracted antidepressant withdrawal is the same. 9 months so far of constant anxiety, fear, terror even, anhedonia, overwhelm. I wish I could die.
Been there. You’ll make it!
no it's not the same, benzo is another level.......no drug withdrawal compares to benzos
Instead of adressing the root cause through behavioral therapy, taking herbal medicines or try hollistic solutions, it's always about meds and chemicals. That's why we get disasters🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
CANNOT TAKE THE MORE THAN 1 DAY FOR EMERGENCY!
Totally agree. Only for emergencies only for a day. Maybe twice a month?
Amen
Yeah this is great if you are rich and endlessly well connected and have a loving and loyal family and bottomless number of devoted friends! Who can just travel everywhere in the world and afford those clinics and rentals for any number of months or years?? I like JP but really, this isn’t even realistic. Most people have terrible limitations on how to get help.
Yea like going to work in withdrawal
Same here man. This is rough I just try to survive every day
@@jacklannom5155 the thing that I struggle with the most at work is trying to keep my rage from getting out of control. I’m not an angry person, but you know our brains are fucked up and I find myself getting so irritated and angry at people. I’m constantly trying to talk myself downfrom off the ledge so to speak
@@jacklannom5155 you’re right dude it’s surviving. I don’t feel like we’re living because I can’t even enjoy the bird chirps in the morning the son of my face. I’m gonna pain and negativity and fear while trying to hold it together for 10 hours a day for work interacting with coworkers when you think about it man, we are some tough motherfuckers dude if people knew what we were going through man.
I'm on them since 2010 and find it hard it's gotten tp the point where doctors can't stop this addiction meny times I looked in the mirror look at my self and say would you ever give up hard keeping everything to myself
You are physically dependent - not 'addicted'.
Just goes to show you a great man like Jordan Peterson can be struck down by prescription drugs.
Been on one mg three times a day for 25 years VA given to me them I’m 75 now some days I can get away with two mg a day if you can Don’t take them please
VA prescribed mine as well. I’m fine on them, but would rather, cognitively, be off of them. I will get off of them. Buspar has helped me become less reactive, maybe a substitution after weaning off. 🤷🏻♀️
I am tapering off Xanax and have considered ketamine and or psylcibin. How did that work for the doctor.
taper with a different benzo. Xanax is its own beast. long taper
I had been taking it for years, and I’m still currently taking it. 😢
When I went cold turkey, my body went into medication induced catatonic state; life threatening. Needless to say, without getting helpful guidance from my dr.s, and it taking away a month of my life trying to be strong, but felt fragile; I decided to take them again and let my body reset to the maximum dose, 1mg x 2 as needed.
I found a 3 month Clonazepam weaning schedule. I will be imposing this shortly. Since alcohol is from the same family, and they actually use Clonazepam to help those coming off of alcoholism, I’m going to stop drinking for about a month or so, and then, as recommended, reduce no more than 0.25mg for two weeks at a time. This will give me a better chance of success. I’m strong minded. I know I can do this 🤩
Thank you for sharing your story 🙏🏻
3 month taper is far too quick.
Don’t do it that fast. At least try the 10% method - you cut by 10% of THE LAST DOSE (not the original dose you were in) every time you lower. Every taper step, you stay on the new dose until you feel somewhat balanced. Let it take its time.
I wish I had done that with my paroxetine.
@@ChristinaChrisR thank you for your advice 🙏🏻
@@UniqueCuriousMakeupArtist you got this 💪🏼❤️
@@ChristinaChrisR Thank You 🥰
Does anyone sleep goes and comes as far as any quality? Also depression coming and going?I did stop abruptly.im so fearful
LOOK UP THE ASHTON MANUAL.
My life is destroyed….Klonopin also 22 years. I’m 72, will be on them for life.
Make a video about it
Sounds to me like you have a testament.
Nothing is coincidental, it’s all a part of his plan😊
I hear you sir, best of luck.
My dad just got off them after more than 20 years. He's 71. It's a nightmare but it's not impossible.
Is it even possible to stay on them for life,.does your dose not keep having to go up
Fuck me man, I didn't know whether to watch this, ita frightened me even more - I've been illicitly and prescribed diazepam (valium) for about 4 years, since covid ive constantly took it - I've always gone the gym so I'm quite a big guy, and although I've retained the size and muscle I've put on a lot of weight, - I've drank, and I wish this was an exaggeration but about 5 bottles of wine on 100mg of diazzies several times, that was Russian roulette - I'd done things I had absolutely no idea, amnesia, I phoned my ex girl friend of 20 years mother I told her about the crush I'd had on her for years Jesus thankfully she knew I was fucked up, could of drove and not even knew - don't ever drink on them is the first thing, then I did about an 8 month trition- and getting access to that was unbelievably difficult, but even from very high doses to 2mg - I still felt weirded out, and now I'm back buying them taking them some days in the 60's and 70's range, the other day I took 20mg and went the gym, 20mg before a work out, that would put the average person asleep for around 15 hours, and like alcohol- cos I'm an alcoholic, you can't just stop them either seizures and death, delirium, but an alcohol detox is a week, benzos- years.. they both work on the GABA a and b transmitters, so they can't depress your breathing till it stops, both are they only things ye can die from, from stopping instantly, diazepam has the longest half life - but the most craziest thing, which seems to be a common thread in these comments is doctors in hospitals don't know how to treat it, itd be easier for a shattered kneez some major trauma, other complicated diseases, - I seen some kid, half my size, same boat as me in A&E the emergency room, - they thought giving him oxazepam, another benzo was the answer, he'd been drinking on around 100mg too, he literally got off a plane and went straight to hospital - I was a patient but even I knew myself what he needed, arguing with consulants - I was like - listen believe me, he needs diszepam because of the half life, around 10 doctors inargued with, was dismmised out of hand, and on about day 5 this lovely guy I became friends with had a seizure, and broke his orbital socket, then they had to bring someone in from outside the hospital to treat him, how could this be?? I couldn't believe it - so heres me now, again facing a battle to even access the services, and nevermind go thru it, plus all the other shit going in my life that caused it in the first place, I think for me personally im alive cos of my weight and considerable muscle mass, but they're are known to be the hardest drugs in the books to get off, so I'm fucked
Love and respect my friend, keep at it, stay positive and stay big. The apatite they give you is unreal. Speak to the big man to, this will put your soul at peace.
@@karlbrowne3361 thanks bro 🙏
Whenever I hear people taking benzodiazepines 2-3 times a day every day and not being comatose, I'm amazed. I've taken xanax for anxiety, insomnia, and muscle tension, and I had a good experience, but I couldn't imagine taking xanax every day or multiple times a day.
I was prescribed 2mg Klonopin twice a day at one point. At first, small amounts knocked me out. But then, with constant prescriptions, my tolerance skyrocketed.
@Jay_Segoviano_WC Right, I think that's the issue. The way they are prescribed. I took them as needed and had no issues, never built a tolerance or became dependent. If I took them the way they were prescribed, I would have been comatose. I only took a small piece of a .5 milligram alprazolam at night, when I was very stressed and anxious. Never every day or in the daytime, and I had a good experience.
@@thealchemist5761 I’m glad you escaped the withdrawal. I couldn’t but that’s just my story. On my way down with Valium though.
The distracting captions are unnecessary. If someone is deaf, they can choose to turn them on
These drugs do save lives as well if you are honest with yourself and your doctor that one month max to piece back together your thoughts that may be overwhelming to the degree it is effecting your life
Such things also provide the "research" for
Global drivers of how to test the limits of human brain dulling or enhancing for use by big business .....how to control the sectors of population based on scientific evidenced research.... Genetic modification has always existed at unspoken levels in elite circles.
Agree
Did he stop cold turkey what caused these symptoms here??
i think he did at the second try
It beggars belief that a clinical psychologist wouldn't know the dangers of benzos that quite frankly is untrue regardless of that they are a appauling addiction and in most cases shockingly hard to get off, after long term use or abuse it can take anything up to two years tapering off to finally break free from them.
what year was this interview from?
2025. It's from the future.
It was from 2020
I have been on Ativan for years and it’s the only thing that provides a modicum of relief for my anxiety. Will I eventually pay a price? Possibly, but I assume the risk. On the other side of the coin, should we also go on the warpath against anti-depressants? It seems there’s no hesitation to dump those down our gullets despite the side effects and dangers.
Many already are. Also difficult to terminate. All of these "medications", over the long term (though not studied enough to know what thatvmeans) cause adaptations in the brain/body, which, when discontinued, reveal that the body changed what it was doing due to the "poison", and bodies heal, but it may take a long time. Ronert Whitaker has spoken/written extensively about Antidepressants. No free rides.
If you haven't experienced the negatives then they are certainly on their way. The love for those tablets is like a narcissistic girlfriend. For a time they are perfect and take away all your pain and then it turns on you suddenly. Please come off of it and take natural methods of healing.
Sorry. I hope you get lucky with no side effects. The odds are against you though. 6.5 years off benzos and fully downright disabled.
....I was on lorazapam 1.25 2 months to 1mg for 2.5 months....total 4.5 >5 months use. For a nervous breakdown.
I have gone threw the most horrific
Reactions stopping it.
It was hell.
Akathesia 11 weeks straight....being plugged into an electricity circuit going 100km an hour. Inability to sleep. Feel rest....seriously hell....diarrhoea, nausea, felt like severe hyperactivity. I hit a wall 12th week....like a bus hit the back of my brain......I then had 11 days dead calm....with excruciating pain in back of the brain.....felt like it was heavily bruised......brain damage.....then I had symptoms come and go with windows free....then 13th week started having 13 hours a day free......symptoms later in day.....still healing.....
When I am over stimulated....severe brain pain happens back of the brain, then Benzo's withdrawal symptoms start....brain gets too fast ....panic attack overwhelmed. .....
5 yrs out after CT klonopin because no docs believed it was a problem. Still on the struggle bus.
Its only bad if you don’t take breaks and take them every single day without stopping for months and years. You can use them short term only if you take breaks. Every body is different.
Even what you suggest here is harmful.
@@THXx1138 agreed, I’m almost 60 days sober
I went through the same experience and I went through hell. I lived through the worst year of my life and the reason was the sudden cessation of a simple and light drug, which was Librax. I was only taking it for two weeks and then I suddenly left it. After less than two days, I went into withdrawal symptoms, severe anxiety, obsessive-compulsive thoughts, severe depression, suicidal thoughts, and phobia. Agro phopia hallucinations, and complete lack of sleep for 5 days, then after that these symptoms continued to disappear little by little...but the depression and anxiety continued with me for more than a year. I will never take these medications again, no matter what the cost. I did not know what these diseases were, such as depression. I had only heard about them from afar. This drug was the one that introduced me to them in the ugliest form.
❤
The anxiety at the thought of tapering off benzodiazepines is unbearable.
My question. How did you manage to stay on the Carnivore diet through this ordeal? Serious question.
Benzos are hellll i relapse occasionally which knocks some sense into me anxiety is a bitch
This is my sentiment, the cycle of abuse and non abuse, knowing intimately what happens when I abuse and face the consequences- withdrawal and rebirth - luckily for me and unlike Peterson I’ve been doing this my whole life I’m 36 so it’s nothing new to me but it doesn’t make it any less insidious I just know what it takes to recover, the idea that a drug will not effect me once I stop taking it is just illogical, it makes zero sense, I know full well what I am doing and to some degree it makes it worse but in the end I think it’s much much better to have gone through too many withdrawals to count
What did they give you in Serbia ??
As someone who has experience with pharmaceutical meds and real organic drugs I was so surprised when I saw Jorden Peterson promoting antidepressants and ssris. Stick with the organic and usually illigal drugs rather than the big pharmaceutical drugs
Id rather do weed then take Benzo
@@stardustring yep 👍 it’s natures antidepressant
iv injected cocktail of diazepam,buprenorphine and promethazine almost for 10years now on and off. I always got clean using just methadone and relapse again. methadone is just opioid its weird why i never got any benzo withdrwal cause i never got sick or uncomfortable after taking methadone. some weird fear has sunken me now as if ill get all of the side efffect in some other way dangerously later in life, fuck i dont get it.
You would never believe he has anxiety or depression.
I’ve been sober for 9 years now after using benzos and opiates for most of my life. I’ll be 50 in may. I went through so many withdrawals throughout my years of using and it’s the worst. I finally got sober after not wanting to go through that over and over again. You should go into a detox center
Nope. Not a detox center type of ailment
For some people going to detox center to get off benzos going to be a huge mistake. The best thing to do is to find a doctor who'll work with you to slowly very gradually. Taper down off of them. Not going too fast so that if you do encounter severe withdrawal symptoms to stop and hold at that dose until the brain has time to adapt.
If you listen to testimonies about people who did get out of pills or addiction 99% of them will mention the important help of their family and friends to overwhelm it. We never think about people who are without friends or family, in their case instead you have the mental strenght of a Navy Seals you’re fucked…
I am struggling and fighting my demons for 20 yrs by myself without support and it is really really hard. When you feel down and have no one to talk your only friend is the bottle or the pills… don’t judge people by their cover you never know what are they going throught.
Don’t get me wrong benzos or alcohol are crap, but without it I think I wouldn’t be alive today and would have killed myself a long time ago..
Watching you sit there doing nothing is very awesome and totally sweet
For those, who admire this man as if he was (is?) an authority in virtually everything, he hasn’t mastered his first language in basic ways. Here he says repeatedly that he “couldn’t remember how to lay down.” One “lies down” and if using the word “lay”- as in to put something down flat or otherwise - one is “laying X object” down , or “laying down” a metaphorical concept such as a “burden” or perceived “obligation. This man speaks as if he knows the definitive answers about psychology, existentialism, climate change, economics, and so on. At least HERE one can give him credit for acknowledging not doing any research or asking any questions about a psychoactive medication he had heard was “safer than barbiturates” for eg, inducing sleep when experiencing anxiety (or worry) with associated insomnia. That’s refreshing. And yes, I’m wasting my time and why am I here listening to this if I think he’s a bit puffed up after a viral moment of fame about his refusal to use certain words he felt were dictated rather than requested of him? I guess I’m a loser today, wasting time. With all due respect to truth seekers. Plus, he is a phenomenon of sorts, and how this got started and is maintained ( and capitalized on by his daughter, which I do not say critically, just noticing she has used her father’s notoriety, while they each claim she has helped him enormously and he’s proud of her)…the social phenomenon is somewhat interesting. He is not the first of his type (examples in history very much predate the internet!).
Nobody says he is a perfect human or everything he says is right, but he had the guts to defend freedom and people's rights from extremist left-wing ideology. He had the guts to speak real truth to power and put his career on the line, There are millions of men and women being forced to use fake pronouns at work and women have to accept naked men in their bathrooms and spaces or lose their job. Most people just accept it to keep their job.
He deserves a huge amount of credit.
There is no human alive that doesnt have flaws.
That's a really strong withdrawal given you were on such a low dose
During lockdown I overdosed on 150 benzos. Xanax, clonazepam and diazepam. Also drank a litre of methadone and a ton of snack. I survived.... but wished I hadn't. Serious withdrawals lasted a few years. The only one I still have is severe insomnia. I basically get 3 - 5 short sleeps a week
Cold turkeying such a massive overdose of benzos and opiates is obviously hell. . It is brain damage. One of worst parts was knowing how messed up you are but being unable to express it
Best wishes to those going through their own version of it
I love benzos!!! One of my most favorite drugs. Alcohol, Benzos and Weed. Absolute Perfection
Now Jordan Peterson knows what benzo withdrawal feels like. He studies a pseudoscience (Psychology) that has the same ideology as Psychiatry.
Agreed.
Yeah and he understands!!!!and look what he's went through,he's got real time insights on this subject!!The man has given me hope,where's heart on sleeve yet like a rock,is Canada still have Hockey??on a lite note
You are right. 100 percentage true. Psychology is pure shit.
@@forrest2416 I know and psychiatry too, they destroy humanity and society.
Benzos saved my life.
You obviously have zero understanding of what it is doing to you internally. That "calm" feeling you experience is your brain overdosing on Gamma-aminobutyric acid - entirely unnatural and your body is forming completely unnatural alterations because of it.
If you are kicking or going to kick just know it’s literally 7-12 days at the most but facing the reality of feeling again is rough, prepared to be sensitive to everything, and I mean sensitive. It will take some work but nothing you or anyone can’t handle, journal, workout, hopefully a job, and of course listen to music or draw or do something that you love basketball swimming it’s different for everyone
BS - the injury lasts years.
For some it’s not a problem. For some it’s the start of years of hell. For some it’s ok quitting cold turkey with one med without any problems at all, and when stopping another it goes south. For some, quitting a med at one point in their life is fine and no problemo, maybe they start the same drug at another point in their life and now the drug a) don’t work the same way it did back then, and/or b) now they get all kinds of hellish problems trying to stop.
Why doesn't he advocate against forced medication, then? I was secretly put on 30 mg of zyprexa and 10 mg of diazepam. I (!) nearly died on that stuff day two or three.
To me he seems disengenious.
In general, it's already illegal to forcibly medicate people or to medicate anyone without their knowledge. Why would he need to advocate against something that's already illegal??
@@claesyoungberg1695 because people get sentenced by the thousands each year to forced medication.
6.5 years off benzos here and still gravely sick. Unable to work.
Get back on it
That’s not possible. You have psychological or something else going on
@@jennifercleland4852 It is very possible. I am 5 years post-taper and rendered disabled. Enter any of the online support groups for benzo injury and you will have crossed into hell itself.
If the drug helps why do you want to go off if they help you
Pay attention. These drugs are neurotoxins. They WILL eventually turn on you and when they do it is catastrophic - literal torture.
I like how he never explains WHAT helped him ?
I heard it involved an induced coma in a Russian treatment center. I heard they put him into a coma for 10 days. Don't hold me to that. That's just what I heard
Yeah, I went through benzo's and it is hard to get off them.
So sympathy to JP, but.....
But no mea cupla from JP, just how, I'm a psychologist who should have know better, I wrote a book about 12 rules to life, but you know ignored a couple of them and then, unlike most mere mortals, went around the world to find a solution.
But hey, I never said I wasn't part of the group who needed to hear them. Very convenient.
So JP, next time you critisize individuals or someone who has transitioned say, think about their journey.
Not convinced JP realises his own grift.
Na, he does.
Why do they have these clinics in Moscow and Serbia?? You’d Think that type of stuff wouldn’t fly there 🤷🏻♂️
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so he told us he went to a center in the east coast United states and it didn't work out because the rehab centers are a lie and he ends up in Serbia then Moscow Russia comes back to USA ; and now hes all of a sudden ok. what's the secret, why did he go to Serbia and Russia? he was cured somehow yet never tells you how it was done.
To commit medical fraud.
I also don't understand why he doesn't specifically shares what treatments he got. It could help others.
@@xy-qy2yg because he had to go to a shitty second world totalitarian state where a shitty doctor agreed to commit medicinal fraud? I doubt it will help others.
He's rich. They gave him the best treatment there is. Some people ain't got that luxury. Some people lose everything.
@@dustygatrell-ru7tg I paid €2000 for therapy by so called experts to end up on a benzo instead half a year ago. Money doesn't always help either.
If you only took 0.5 mg of Xanax once like every 2 to 3 weeks would a person become addicted 4:25
It's dependence not addiction there's a difference. I'll explain the difference soon I want to answer your question
Maybe, but most likely no.
Here's the problem😢😮, you typed in 0.5mg which equates to taking 8 mg of valium. Why do we always equate to valium? Because valium is considered the weakest benzodiazepine. Its also classified as a old world benzo, New world or new gen benzos are clonazepam, Lorazepam and finally Xanax. Valium newly destroyed folks in the 70's-80's until the FDA picked up on its harm... That was valium, this new gen benzo was suppose to be safer however Xanax, lorazepam and Clonazepam are ten times the average dose of a valium 😳 think about that for a second... Valium ruined millions of lives... People on Xanax and the other may not be able to come off their dose which is scary because they pills eat away your nervous system while you're on them leading to hundreds and hundreds of strange and uncomfortable symptoms.
Now that we know that there's no such thing as a small dose, 2-4 weeks is the FDA's recommendation for usage meaning we don't actually have research showing what could happen to you unless you're one of the survivors of benzos like myself.
You took for 2-3 weeks... Yes, you can still become depend. The only record we have comes from a man who became dependent after 9 days. However you're gonna be just fine because if something was to happen, it would of.
Benzos are extremely damaging and dangerous so if you have to take them again, please don't take them longer then a day to be safe never sorry. Alot of doctors are now getting in trouble for keeping patients on long term.
Addiction vs dependence:
Addiction: is Psychological (Mental/having to do with the mind). - DSM-3 and 5-RT Edition
Defined by its traits such as behaviour/repeated patterns when it comes to substances, there's a inability to control one's thoughts/urges which often leads to abusing said chemical chain/substance in hopes of a desired effect/result regardless of negative consequences to a persons, relationships, relations, social circles, financial status, career/job situation and personal well-being.
Dependency: Is Physiological (Physical/has to do with the body).
- ICD-10 Edition
A dependency is best described by its alterations when it comes to substances such as alteration of a person's neurotransmitters within the CNS (Brain and spinal cord). You're neurotransmitters now need the drug to produce any volume of its original chemical compound as its previous state is down regulated.
Basically dependence effects the body, not the mind. Addiction effects the mind
You're gonna be fine
Should be a f****** prescribing this s***
This guy's a psychiatrist and didn't know the risks of the drugs he was able to PERSCRIBE...... this is a b.s story to make money. Dont beleive him hes a 🤡
1. He's not a psychiatrist
2. He can't prescribe medication
3. He's simply telling his story and warning people about what he went through. There's no reason this particular story would make him more money than any of his other talks, which have much more mass appeal.
Would Suboxone work for this? It certainly works great for opioids.
Jordan plays innocent victim about his Benzo usage, but we all know it's bullshit. His overblown ego told him he was superman and able to do benzos without consequence.
Why would he need an overblown ego to take medicine prescribed to him by his doctor? What sort of "consequences" do you think he should have been expecting? They don't warn you about all the dangers when they prescribe these pills. Even most the doctors that prescribe them are woefully ignorant of the potentially immense difficulty in withdrawing from these insidious drugs.
I've been on alprazolam for about 4 months 2mg prescribed today to take with my Adderall ADHD meds in the am. Taking it all as prescribed, I know about benzo withdrawal so I've now slowed down on my alprazolam use with marijuana weed doesn't make me paranoid, but I have Panic attacks were I get light headed and feeling like I'ma faint and panic so alprazolam has had helped me when I use it as needed ,there is days ill take 1mg n save the half in case but I'm still prescribed them ......