This is a set piece built in 1966 but performed con-temporarily. Today's artists just don't have the same mind set to start the mics swinging as they did back in the glorious 1960's. It's all in the wrist.
Music is nothing but an art form whose medium is sound. If you say this isn't music, then there can be no music. Simply because there is no carefully considered choice of chords or words or rhythms does not make it any less viable than anything else. Instead of creating a finite, individual song, Reich's created an infinitely variable concept that can be played by literally anyone. Isn't that simply stunning? Without any professional training, just a very basic explanation, you can play a piece of music that encompasses a highly advanced concept, that of chaos? The same goes for John Cage's "4:33" that I've seen mentioned below. That piece should never be "performed" by an individual, just showcased to a participating audience. This is still groundbreaking now, 57 years after its' creation. That says a lot.
Of course it is music, but to say it's good music or impressive music is something that the public mind I think tells you the most about. That public hasn't changed its opinion. Art snobs will always be art snobs, and tell you that anything can have a profound meaning as long as you attach the right story to it. The artist can do what it wants, but this piece doesn't enlighten me in the slightest.
Torchkas-alt I personally would say this piece is more about being interested in the sound and the effects of chance than enlightenment. Not aware of a profound story or message attached to it either. Which isn't to say you need to like it of course, it's a matter of personal taste. It's not unheard of for members of the public to spend untold sums of money to watch their idol lip sync their way through a song they didn't write. You'll forgive me if I make my own mind up.
The score is a simple bit of text stating that the mics should all be released at the same time, thus making the element of phase more apparent to the listener. I'm really glad this video was made and presented, I just hope next time it will be done correctly!
4:24 it randomly formed a kind of e minor arpeggio with the passing f#. I know it's nothing related to tempered tradicional music but it's funny to see these things happening randomly.
5 year old comment BUT that was most likely intentional. Considering the weight of the mics and where they start along with the pitches being pre determined there are defos larger harmonic moments that were planned to happen.
The idea behind this piece (as many others of Reich) is that the creativity of the composer is no more in the sound result, but in the creation of a process; then the sound is just the result of the process itself… (here purely mechanic and without human intervention, in other pieces the process is played by the interpreters…but the idea is the same). This is a development to his extreme of an idea which is already present even in a Bach's fugue or in a Mozart's sonata… but now the process has take over the specific decisions of the composer and it has became itself "the composition" and the music is merely the "illustration" of a specific process to the listener… for this from performance to performance the music may change, but the process remains the same… This idea characterizes all minimal music but can be found also in other contemporary composers i. e. John Cage, etc…
Surprisingly engaging. There's even some sense of resolution when they accidentally line up together, or when finally in the end all of them line up to produce one blob of noise.
Sounds very different from the recording I've heard. I guess things like the lengths of the cables, closeness to the speakers and a number of other factors can totally change the way this piece sounds.
Robert Wilks The cable length doesn't really have much to do with the frequency that a mic feeds back (unless it's a really poor quality cable and then the noise piles up fast). Different mics and speakers all feed back at different frequencies regardless of the distance but they used the same speakers and mics for all four tones so I'm guessing it was intentionally EQed this way.
The length of the pendulum determines the period of its oscillation. The dimensions of the room and the distance from the microphone to the speaker affect the frequency of the feedback. As the angle that the pendulum moves through decreases, the period stays the same but the mic spends more time in proximity to the speaker. And then the doppler effect is what ultimately gives you that slide between pitches. Sorry, I mostly wrote that for myself. This one sounds much different from the original because it looks like they took the time to do a lot of calculations in positioning everything so that the result would actually be in a key
@@kailalynch1223 it’s not really random because it’s a pendulum so the sounds themselves after you hear the original frequency can set up an expectation for the remainder of the piece as you know they will get longer and closer together as the pendulum swings in smaller amounts
+lulubelle padieu each of speakers placed pointing upwards on the floor is connected to the microphone which hangs directly above it. As the microphone swings past the speaker it creates a feedback loop which produces the sound you hear, as the speaker swings away the loop is effectively broken and the sound stops. The longer a microphone spends directly above it's own speaker, the longer the feedback sound will be heard.
This really feels like a uni students getting stoned and coming up with the best way to create an assignment submission without having to do any actual work.
If you let yourself get brought in by this when the microphones slow down it hits harder than any beat drop in music before, I can see why Vince sampled it.
It hasn’t been officially confirmed that it was used in “Norf Norf,” though, nor which recording it was that was sampled, but mad props to Clams Casino for that beat! Peace.
Sounded great. But the alternate camera angle, the closeup from the side, made me dizzy and didn't contribute to my understanding of the piece. I would have stuck with the original camera angle.
Why does anyone say this isn't music? Sounds like it's got a pretty clear beat and melody to me, it sounds a lot like early electronic music, which I guess is exactly what it is. Yeah, the melody and rhythm aren't in the score for the music and it not only changes with each performance but over the course of the piece, but so what? Something that is easy to identify as music emerges from the piece, and so it is music.
fr, classical pieces like this as well as late 60s guitar players (esp Jimi Hendrix) intentionally manipulated feedback to generate specific notes and harmonics and sounds. wouldn't have ever had any of the rock music from the 70s-90s or the hip hop from 2016-now without their innovations
I see a lot of nay-sayers, and all I want to say is the idea was from-19 bloody-68. Call it what you want, but there is at least genuine novelty to be had here. The arbitrary universal laws of motion, the phase incoherence, the one-shot chaotic element... Its more stage art than music, but sheesh, in the meantime all we're fed are samples of the late n' greats under obvious 2/4 phrases marred by forced rhyme. I think I'd rather listen to this (done infinite times with varying distances and pitches through the speakers ect) than the radio. If all I get anyway is soulless, I'd rather hear an interpretation of the universe. PS, at least Reich didn't try to copyright silence, lol.
I think this doesn't have soul. This snobby "endless experimentation" that got kickstarted in the late 19th century doesn't have any more soul than the modern music business does. Steve Reich's music is designed to give an impressive or intrigued emotion, but it doesn't last. The art itself doesn't actually have any substantial meaning from Reich's part. He just did it because endless experimentation is art. There's no emotion or soul put into this, even if you can think of countless of descriptions after the fact, that doesn't matter anymore. I'll take minimalism and the ability of an artist to limit themselves over this pretentious snobbery any day. I'll agree that radio is probably not much better than this, but that doesn't say much.
In many ways I agree with you. Unsurprisingly I feel a little different a year after I wrote that. No, Steve did not put any "emotion" or "soul" into it. This is more like the musical equivalent to a Jackson Pollock or a Rorschach, where if done a million times *could* get a million different emotions out of you, the viewer. It's kinda like the old Sufi mystic proverb... "Who is the great sage who makes all the grass green." You, my friend, are the one who makes meaning out of static.
Thanks for posting, I have never seen/heard this piece actually realised. Of the "famous" minimalists, Reich's pieces always seem the most elegantly thought-out, a perfect balance of form and content. Significant that he studied philosophy, perhaps? I'm perplexed that Welshhobo doesn't see the relation to Reich's later, more conventional, work. This is not about shocking or conning anyone. As others here point out, and as Reich's own essay suggests, it's music as a gradual process.
Thanks all girls and guy for your comments. Here you'll find the last version we have done at the Fine Art School in Le Mans (France), with students... ruclips.net/video/HTlm2bpbd8Q/видео.html
Weird. They didn’t follow the part of the instructions which says: ‘Performers then sit down to watch and listen to the process along with the audience.’
You know you're on the good side of youtube when Rachmaninoff, Smetana, Satie, Bach, Schönberg, Aphex Twin, Charles Mingus, Neu!, Mort Garson, Gabor Szabo, Cymande and Buena Vista Social Club are all in the recommended section of the same video
Pappa Legbra I'm guessing the mics are just the e835S models which are only about $100. You can see the switch on the second one from the left (the one the guy with the bow tie releases).
It's nice how the tempo doesn't change but the 'notes' get stretched. This is due to the fact that an ideal pendulum doesn't change frequency. Is there a digital version of this effect? I don't think there is.
Steven Reich on Pendulum Music - "If it's done right, it's kind of funny."
👁️👁️👁️
That's all it is
This music really swings.
But can you dance to it?
@@faerieSAALE yes
*stars to dance fornite*
😂😂😂😂
Badmm tss
I ain't never ran from nothing but the police
From the city where the skinny carry strong heat
Norf side long beach
Nice
i don't get it
@@hankigoe829 Vince Staples - Norf Norf sampled this
It sounds like an alert on a spaceship that the crew is no longer around to turn off.
This is so disturbingly accurate
Well, thanks for scaring the hell out of me😂
It wasn't?!
And the ship is slowly losing power.
me desperately trying to figure out which microphone is making which sound for 9 and a half minutes
Ah, finally, a new Pendulum album.
Well the last one was released in June, so...
hahaha
@@DylanTallchief SUCC
@@DylanTallchief the fuck are you doin here?
@@DylanTallchief Oh hi there!
This happens in my bathroom every freakin' night between the bathtub and the sink.
Lucky you
Sounds like a short
Your bathroom sounds haunted
Suddenly craving a Sprite right now.
don't die tonight bro
ayyyy i see what you did there
I just wanna dance with you baby but don’t move too fast cause I’m too crazy
The mic drop made into an art form.
I prefer the original version where this is performed a capella by wookiees
I'm sorry everyone, you can't unhear that.
George Baily yes I can
😂😂 👍👍
😂😂😂
Vince Staples - Norf Norf
Anyone else hearing it here?
yeah
ye
i love that we both listen to Reich and Staples, lol
I KNEW I'VE HEARD THIS SOMEWHERE
lmao
I wonder if this piece received positive feedback? I wasn't a fan of the swung tempo, but I think the chorus was great.
4:04 Good shit
Entropy loves this
It's like listening to the entire birth and death of the universe in nine minutes.
word
What a humpty dumpty universe you live in.
*cough* Pretentious *cough*
give us your drugsss
*literally microphones swinging around* "This is so deep..."
And that's what concerts were like in the 60's
+Nick Kominitsky These concerts taught you how to listen and hear.
+Nick Kominitsky you mean Woodstock ? ;-)
Das Frankfurter Rhythm & Groove Weekend no, Throbbing Gristle
Okay, I have to admit, this is actually clever.
This is a set piece built in 1966 but performed con-temporarily. Today's artists just don't have the same mind set to start the mics swinging as they did back in the glorious 1960's. It's all in the wrist.
The only thing that bothers ME is that the performers should have spoken to each other about what to wear.
+Nasro Subari Its intention is to eliminate the visual image in the performance.
That's such a 'youtube' criticism to make. It's so clearly not about how the performers look, and yet it's all you can talk about.
dog. it's a joke.
What if they did? :D
If they had, they would have worn concert black. It's about the music, not the performers.
Music is nothing but an art form whose medium is sound. If you say this isn't music, then there can be no music. Simply because there is no carefully considered choice of chords or words or rhythms does not make it any less viable than anything else. Instead of creating a finite, individual song, Reich's created an infinitely variable concept that can be played by literally anyone.
Isn't that simply stunning? Without any professional training, just a very basic explanation, you can play a piece of music that encompasses a highly advanced concept, that of chaos? The same goes for John Cage's "4:33" that I've seen mentioned below. That piece should never be "performed" by an individual, just showcased to a participating audience. This is still groundbreaking now, 57 years after its' creation. That says a lot.
Of course it is music, but to say it's good music or impressive music is something that the public mind I think tells you the most about. That public hasn't changed its opinion. Art snobs will always be art snobs, and tell you that anything can have a profound meaning as long as you attach the right story to it. The artist can do what it wants, but this piece doesn't enlighten me in the slightest.
Torchkas-alt I personally would say this piece is more about being interested in the sound and the effects of chance than enlightenment. Not aware of a profound story or message attached to it either. Which isn't to say you need to like it of course, it's a matter of personal taste.
It's not unheard of for members of the public to spend untold sums of money to watch their idol lip sync their way through a song they didn't write. You'll forgive me if I make my own mind up.
When you can't explain why you like something.
woke up my pet whale.
killed my pet puffer ...
The score is a simple bit of text stating that the mics should all be released at the same time, thus making the element of phase more apparent to the listener. I'm really glad this video was made and presented, I just hope next time it will be done correctly!
hehe hi Drew
@@liamoconnell2375 Lol Hi Liam! Here I was 5 years ago being pedantic! lol.
"the score"
lol, ok dude
crazy how clams turned this into a crip anthem
4:24 it randomly formed a kind of e minor arpeggio with the passing f#. I know it's nothing related to tempered tradicional music but it's funny to see these things happening randomly.
5 year old comment BUT that was most likely intentional. Considering the weight of the mics and where they start along with the pitches being pre determined there are defos larger harmonic moments that were planned to happen.
0:44
Taking *DROP THE BEAT* to a whole new level
Hahaha
The idea behind this piece (as many others of Reich) is that the creativity of the composer is no more in the sound result, but in the creation of a process; then the sound is just the result of the process itself… (here purely mechanic and without human intervention, in other pieces the process is played by the interpreters…but the idea is the same). This is a development to his extreme of an idea which is already present even in a Bach's fugue or in a Mozart's sonata… but now the process has take over the specific decisions of the composer and it has became itself "the composition" and the music is merely the "illustration" of a specific process to the listener… for this from performance to performance the music may change, but the process remains the same…
This idea characterizes all minimal music but can be found also in other contemporary composers i. e. John Cage, etc…
Wow, thanks for this explanation
Surprisingly engaging.
There's even some sense of resolution when they accidentally line up together, or when finally in the end all of them line up to produce one blob of noise.
Much better than I initially expected, even as a Reich fan!
FrogmortonHotchkiss nice profile pic
Sounds very different from the recording I've heard. I guess things like the lengths of the cables, closeness to the speakers and a number of other factors can totally change the way this piece sounds.
Robert Wilks The cable length doesn't really have much to do with the frequency that a mic feeds back (unless it's a really poor quality cable and then the noise piles up fast). Different mics and speakers all feed back at different frequencies regardless of the distance but they used the same speakers and mics for all four tones so I'm guessing it was intentionally EQed this way.
The length of the pendulum determines the period of its oscillation. The dimensions of the room and the distance from the microphone to the speaker affect the frequency of the feedback. As the angle that the pendulum moves through decreases, the period stays the same but the mic spends more time in proximity to the speaker. And then the doppler effect is what ultimately gives you that slide between pitches.
Sorry, I mostly wrote that for myself. This one sounds much different from the original because it looks like they took the time to do a lot of calculations in positioning everything so that the result would actually be in a key
The piece is all about random accidental music
i like that this version doesnt make me wanna commit suicide
@@kailalynch1223 it’s not really random because it’s a pendulum so the sounds themselves after you hear the original frequency can set up an expectation for the remainder of the piece as you know they will get longer and closer together as the pendulum swings in smaller amounts
genuinely sounds like a dying god. i'm in love with this piece.
+lulubelle padieu each of speakers placed pointing upwards on the floor is connected to the microphone which hangs directly above it. As the microphone swings past the speaker it creates a feedback loop which produces the sound you hear, as the speaker swings away the loop is effectively broken and the sound stops. The longer a microphone spends directly above it's own speaker, the longer the feedback sound will be heard.
Impresionante! y la tocaron toda de memoria!
my mom walked on me and started crying she thought i was in a cult or something
Omg that’s hilarious
I love this. I can imagine some interesting projected poetry on the walls
This really feels like a uni students getting stoned and coming up with the best way to create an assignment submission without having to do any actual work.
They dropped the mic...
Badum-tsss
:3
Sad that nothing of Maestro Reich comes to America anymore. Oct performance in Amsterdam is nearly sold out already. I love him❤
this music sound like a bad case of growing anxiety and I really like it. I am weird, yes, but this is cool.
If you let yourself get brought in by this when the microphones slow down it hits harder than any beat drop in music before, I can see why Vince sampled it.
It hasn’t been officially confirmed that it was used in “Norf Norf,” though, nor which recording it was that was sampled, but mad props to Clams Casino for that beat! Peace.
BITCH YOU THIRSTY, PLEASE GRAB A SPRITE
at 8:35 norf norf by vince staples sample
Is it just me or does it seem like there's a problem with one of the microphones? I think one of them has a little bit of feedback.
The whole sound is made from feedback
@@alamooji3716 Congrats on finding the joke!
That's some high quality trap instrumental right there
Funny you should say that
@@newport_reds Is Norf norf actually sampling the last part of this video ? ruclips.net/video/mb6Jc4juSF8/видео.html
Sounded great. But the alternate camera angle, the closeup from the side, made me dizzy and didn't contribute to my understanding of the piece. I would have stuck with the original camera angle.
dopo questo mi rendo conto di non aver mai vissuto *davvero*
GRAZIE
Vince staples - norf norf
Jay rock - kings dead
how is it kings dead i dont hear it
Love this piece of music! Very pleasant to listen to and watch!
FUCK RUclips STABILIZATION!
Magnifique magique vidéo Rare 🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🎧😚
Excellent !
Michel ! 😚
Real, actual music. Awesome.
are you a musician? or have working ears?
Beautiful isn't it?
Excelente interpretación Joan Cerveró, Víctor Trescolí, Isabel León, Estefanía Sánchez... ¡Bravo!
Excelente??? Uma verdadeira merda de música! Existem muitas músicas clássicas melhor que bizarrices sem sentido como essa.
@@Pedro-wr9gu vose he un jenio
Keep in mind that Steve Reich has composed a huge number of pieces. for all kinds of ensembles--traditional and otherwise.
At times, it reminded me of a Cliff Burton solo...
Damn I love this soo much❤❤
Not bad. Pretty nice piece of drone music.
+Andrew Mohler the end sounds like the cry of a wounded beast tbh
+Jacob Schwartz I can hear that.Prescient.
the 4 minute mark is the greatest
This song got really good feedback
it is feedback
Those musicians blew my mind
Why does anyone say this isn't music? Sounds like it's got a pretty clear beat and melody to me, it sounds a lot like early electronic music, which I guess is exactly what it is. Yeah, the melody and rhythm aren't in the score for the music and it not only changes with each performance but over the course of the piece, but so what? Something that is easy to identify as music emerges from the piece, and so it is music.
Check out Norf Norf by Vince Staples. He made it into a song
fr, classical pieces like this as well as late 60s guitar players (esp Jimi Hendrix) intentionally manipulated feedback to generate specific notes and harmonics and sounds. wouldn't have ever had any of the rock music from the 70s-90s or the hip hop from 2016-now without their innovations
I see a lot of nay-sayers, and all I want to say is the idea was from-19 bloody-68. Call it what you want, but there is at least genuine novelty to be had here. The arbitrary universal laws of motion, the phase incoherence, the one-shot chaotic element... Its more stage art than music, but sheesh, in the meantime all we're fed are samples of the late n' greats under obvious 2/4 phrases marred by forced rhyme. I think I'd rather listen to this (done infinite times with varying distances and pitches through the speakers ect) than the radio. If all I get anyway is soulless, I'd rather hear an interpretation of the universe. PS, at least Reich didn't try to copyright silence, lol.
***** But Steven made music out of it.
I think this doesn't have soul. This snobby "endless experimentation" that got kickstarted in the late 19th century doesn't have any more soul than the modern music business does. Steve Reich's music is designed to give an impressive or intrigued emotion, but it doesn't last. The art itself doesn't actually have any substantial meaning from Reich's part. He just did it because endless experimentation is art. There's no emotion or soul put into this, even if you can think of countless of descriptions after the fact, that doesn't matter anymore. I'll take minimalism and the ability of an artist to limit themselves over this pretentious snobbery any day. I'll agree that radio is probably not much better than this, but that doesn't say much.
In many ways I agree with you. Unsurprisingly I feel a little different a year after I wrote that. No, Steve did not put any "emotion" or "soul" into it. This is more like the musical equivalent to a Jackson Pollock or a Rorschach, where if done a million times *could* get a million different emotions out of you, the viewer. It's kinda like the old Sufi mystic proverb... "Who is the great sage who makes all the grass green." You, my friend, are the one who makes meaning out of static.
"at least Reich didn't try to copyright silence," Sam Wise 2015. A quote that I'm going to have to use one day
You might hate me foer that but give this piece a drum beat and you get perfect samples for a rap song
This is making me question everything about life...
My dog is barking. He likes it too.
I love human music
An excellent performance... Delightful
What I've learned from this, is that like the mics, you must let things go. That's when life happens.
I half expected there to be a round of applause at the end. I want to try this live as the encore.
I like the bit near the middle where it makes chords and sounds pretty.
the camera work is nice, too
Brilliant!
just an awesome idea...
Now we need Double Pendulum Music!
Came here from the Vince Staples - Norf Norf Sample!!
This is insaneeee...!!!!
Epic buddy
この作品何回聴いても飽きない！
😍
my crips lurking dont die tonight
Woooooooooo!!!!! Any day, any way, say what you say you what say way any day any.
Thanks for posting, I have never seen/heard this piece actually realised. Of the "famous" minimalists, Reich's pieces always seem the most elegantly thought-out, a perfect balance of form and content. Significant that he studied philosophy, perhaps? I'm perplexed that Welshhobo doesn't see the relation to Reich's later, more conventional, work. This is not about shocking or conning anyone. As others here point out, and as Reich's own essay suggests, it's music as a gradual process.
sound art
Half-Life 2 sounds
That is mesmerizing
Thanks all girls and guy for your comments. Here you'll find the last version we have done at the Fine Art School in Le Mans (France), with students...
ruclips.net/video/HTlm2bpbd8Q/видео.html
Esta la silbaba mucho mi abuelo. Qué recuerdos.
Exquisite. I love the French-style tap-dancing at 5.33.....
it would be interesting to work with syncing pendulums on a moving platform. ive got to try that now
horrible camerawork. amazing music. i'm a huge fan of reich.
This is actually really beautiful.
Weird. They didn’t follow the part of the instructions which says: ‘Performers then sit down to watch and listen to the process along with the audience.’
Pendulum Music, Reorchestrated.
Sounds like my neighbours-they have a lot of children.
Are they Whales?
Here from T.O.P
same lol
Vipere same haha
Vipere saame
All the hours practicing Bach Cello Suites really paying off
You know you're on the good side of youtube when Rachmaninoff, Smetana, Satie, Bach, Schönberg, Aphex Twin, Charles Mingus, Neu!, Mort Garson, Gabor Szabo, Cymande and Buena Vista Social Club are all in the recommended section of the same video
Stupendo esperimento. Steve Reich un grande
Wow! Cool experience 🙂
Did Vince Staples sample this particular 'performance'? His song 'Norf Norf' uses similar sounds and he used it to great effect, creepy and ominous.
Yep this is the sample source for Norf Norf
Imagine they would have sung along some song as the mic would have travelled near them... That's Some Doppler Pendulum Music
Wtf this is actually good, theres some semblance of melody and progression even tho this is pretty random/kinda stochastic
Sun Ra may cast light!!!
He didn't even make this piece
Really, really fabulous!
Damnit! Those are $400 Sennheisers!
Pappa Legbra I'm guessing the mics are just the e835S models which are only about $100. You can see the switch on the second one from the left (the one the guy with the bow tie releases).
Ole por los intérpretes! Menudos músicos. Que se otorgue un premio anual a los intérpretes de péndulo por favor...
I find this oddly beautiful
It's nice how the tempo doesn't change but the 'notes' get stretched.
This is due to the fact that an ideal pendulum doesn't change frequency.
Is there a digital version of this effect? I don't think there is.