Miles Davis said it long ago, and it is still true - Every jazz musician should get down on their knees every day and thank God for Edward Kennedy Duke Ellington
these movies makes these guys looks like if they were a miracle. Like if they were born knowing everything. buts thats not true, they made themselfs giant with hard work.
I have watched this movie about Charlie Parker several times with my boyfriend mark at the time he is a huge Charlie Parker fan, mark plays the saxophone both tenor and alto he even would sound like Charlie Parker. I miss Mark and his saxophone playing 😢🎷
Thats so true. Any documentary or dramatisation skips the years spent practising, playing badly, messing up etc which even the best musicians have to go through.
what a tragedy the world enacted by not treasuring such an amazing talent. only showing recognition & appreciation, once his beauty no longer walked the earth. how very sad his life... not only did the world not understand his value, but it seems that parker, himself, claimed that same notion & advidly participated in his own early demise. i suppose 1 looking in, will never know the enormous strain & control of an eternal demon. i pray that now... his peace is timeless.
1988, 13ème film réalisé par Clint EASTWOOD, conteur talentueux capable de récits sophistiqués à l’image soignée. EASTWOOD est aussi un authentique mélomane amoureux du Jazz.
see this movie, then look carefully at all the actual pictures of Bird on albums and in books, listen to his voice on the alternate takes in the Bird with his big band and chorus sessions at Verve. Charles Bukowski; "A man like Charlie Parker comes along only every two hundred years or so."
"Laura", of course! Originally recorded for the second "With Strings" album in 1950. Bernie Leighton (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d), Joe Lipman (arr/cond). Get the Complete Verve CD box, everything's there. William
This is a great movie, and a lot of it is accurate of to what really happened in Bird's life. The crash cymbal part is true, the coroner report is true. Forest did a great job playing as Bird, and put up one of the most convincing 'fake playing' acts I've ever seen. If your interested in jazz it's a great movie to own.
While I must admit that Forrest did in fact move around more than Bird did-I have to agree with you-He truly did do a great job generally and hell-he was a LOT better acting like an alto player than say...Sean Penn did as a guitar player in "Sweet And Lowdown"!!! (..and they nominated him for an Oscar for that role!) I agree with you wholeheartedly.
@LSDpeasantry oh come on you guys. Always complaining 'bout everything! Can you get a clone of bird and make him be like him? Do it. Whitaker played him great. A bit of more tension in his "acting as sax player" but that's ok. He's an actor, not a saxman. Besides, by showing this tension makes you think how big and how deep inside the music was while playing as Parker. Great movie
cmon ppl didn't have that kinda info then... we should be glad there's even a movie. He deserves a better one though. And this film generated a lot of new press for bird
a great movie about the greatest gay jazz man of all times tender moments galore, a treat especialy since the director is probably straight my man and I love it your truley Rab Hines
Eastwood could have focused less on the drug issue, but then some would call it a weak portrayal. Coincidentally, the artist Jean Michel Basquiat, who was a huge fan of Bird's, lived and died very similarly. When the movie "Basquiat" was released there was criticism of the fact that his addiction was not portrayed prominently enough. You can't please everyone
This guy did a good job playing Bird, except the way he played the saxophone. If you watch videos of Charlie, he played with little movement. he looks like he is bored to death when he is playing, even when the tempo is burning. Of course they had to make it look like it was a big effort to play the alto, but in reality he made it look way too easy. The guy was a genius, and its tough to protray a genius correctly.
That guy doesn't even look like bird when he played!! He moves WAYYY too much and has all this affected tension in his shoulders and face! If you've ever seen footage of Bird playing, he was perfectly calm, still and effortless, not like some hokey actor trying to be all like 'cool' and jazzy.
Bad,,,,he didnt discover bop until a goodwhile later and hours upon days and nights of practicing,,,at the jam , before a few days after he thought all songs were in one key,,,,,,pretty bad huh? But what a growth from that.!
hola buenas noches oye de casualidad tentras la pelicula completa me la puedes enviar a este correo te lo agradecere o dime como la puedo conseg de antemano gracias.
Even thought he threw that cymbal, you've got to think about what would have happened if that cymbal was never thrown. Charlie was humiliated, but he came back later and blew everybody out of the water. But, I'm not disagreeing; I thought that was a really bad move.
I have personally seen drugs take out many artists, especially musicians but not exclusive to, and man the impact they could have had...I have seen alcohol do that as well so you don't get off scott- free.
Come on, this movie represented Forrest Whitaker's finest film and the artistic license allowed for, heck, demanded by the role was immense. If the role was too liberal you would have complained. And the way in which drugs took from him needed to be told as there are a lot of drugs in the music industry and the horror of what drugs do to people is renown. No?
Man,you're so right...I've read an itw with Max Roach where he speaks about how wrong this movie is:it's more a movie about heroin addiction than about music;there are a lot of white people around Bird(don't get me wrong,i'm white!) which shows the pressure of Hollywood studios on Eastwood's work(as you put it a "minstrel show movie").Max also speaks about how clever Bird was and that he's been ashamed of how he's portrayed in this movie...but what does Mr Roach know about movie making,huh?...;)
People have that first choice shoot up or don't. you spend your life stealing from friends and pissing everyone off and this movie shows just that, Parker had a choice and screwed it , this shows the result of addiction + the result, he was a genius no doubt would have been the same genius without skag and that first choice ?
Come on Clint! You make a movie about Charlie Parker and consult with Red Rodney but NOT Max Roach, Dizzy, Art Blakey, Miles, Roy Haynes who WHERE ALIVE at the time this movie was made! No Respect.
I dig Charlie Parker, I dig Clint Eastwood, I dig Forest Whitaker ,I di NOT dig this movie. It did not do Bird justice, It did not do Diz justice, Miles wasn't even in it but Red Rodney was? Definitely not Clint's best work.
I enjoy the movie, but it gets kind of awkward to see Forrest Whitaker pretend to play, a good effort but you can see it is fake...and some anachronisms, such as Buster Franklin´s bass player playing a MusicMan Stingray...on 1954?? Maybe Marty McFly took it back to the future, lol...
I agree with LSD. Whittaker doesn't do a good Bird. Too much shoulder movement and even the movements are out of sync with the beat. His "playing" looks completely fake. I guess they put too much emphasis on correct fingering and forgot about the rest.
They got the big events right, but the nuances behind them were almost all wrong. For just one example, yes Bird was hospitalized to kick his habit. But no, he didn't get into fist fights with the other patients. Also, Bird's knowledge of Classical music, and pursuit of studying with composers like Varese were glossed over, while drug use and drinking was highlighted.
"Laura", of course! Originally recorded for the second "With Strings" album in 1950. Bernie Leighton (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d), Joe Lipman (arr/cond). Get the Complete Verve CD box, everything's there. William
one of the few masterpieces about the life of an artist
Miles Davis said it long ago, and it is still true - Every jazz musician should get down on their knees every day and thank God for Edward Kennedy Duke Ellington
Beautiful film from Clint, I've lost count the number of time's i've seen it. . "Magical"
these movies makes these guys looks like if they were a miracle. Like if they were born knowing everything. buts thats not true, they made themselfs giant with hard work.
I have watched this movie about Charlie Parker several times with my boyfriend mark at the time he is a huge Charlie Parker fan, mark plays the saxophone both tenor and alto he even would sound like Charlie Parker. I miss Mark and his saxophone playing 😢🎷
I am sorry you do😢 but I'm sure it's for the best.
This is the best movie Ive ever seen...Good work
Un chef d'oeuvre ! merci M Eastwood
Thats so true. Any documentary or dramatisation skips the years spent practising, playing badly, messing up etc which even the best musicians have to go through.
wonderful movie
This was a excellent movie
Greatest under rated movie ever.
I was not too fond of the film - but I am ever grateful to Clint Eastwood for having honored one of my top heroes
what a tragedy the world enacted by not treasuring such an amazing talent. only showing recognition & appreciation, once his beauty no longer walked the earth. how very sad his life... not only did the world not understand his value, but it seems that parker, himself, claimed that same notion & advidly participated in his own early demise. i suppose 1 looking in, will never know the enormous strain & control of an eternal demon. i pray that now... his peace is timeless.
Thanks, I heard this song many times but I never knew to find it again : )
1988, 13ème film réalisé par Clint EASTWOOD, conteur talentueux capable de récits sophistiqués à l’image soignée. EASTWOOD est aussi un authentique mélomane amoureux du Jazz.
see this movie, then look carefully at all the actual pictures of Bird on albums and in books, listen to his voice on the alternate takes in the Bird with his big band and chorus sessions at Verve. Charles Bukowski; "A man like Charlie Parker comes along only every two hundred years or so."
"Laura", of course!
Originally recorded for the second "With Strings" album in 1950. Bernie Leighton (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d), Joe Lipman (arr/cond). Get the Complete Verve CD box, everything's there.
William
very cool film
I LOVE me some Charlie Parker and ive never seen this flick. Ill have to check it out. I hope its a accurate portrayal.
This is a great movie, and a lot of it is accurate of to what really happened in Bird's life. The crash cymbal part is true, the coroner report is true. Forest did a great job playing as Bird, and put up one of the most convincing 'fake playing' acts I've ever seen. If your interested in jazz it's a great movie to own.
How did I never hear about this movie?!
Super Film
"You can't make a living playing Jazz."
"Duke can, Dizz can." One of the few parts I remember along with. "Everyone says you've gone crazy"!
While I must admit that Forrest did in fact move around more than Bird did-I have to agree with you-He truly did do a great job generally and hell-he was a LOT better acting like an alto player than say...Sean Penn did as a guitar player in "Sweet And Lowdown"!!! (..and they nominated him for an Oscar for that role!)
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
The song is "April in Paris"
my sax teacher told me who it was today, but i forget who. and not all of them were rerecorded again, only a few
fun movie
@LSDpeasantry oh come on you guys. Always complaining 'bout everything! Can you get a clone of bird and make him be like him? Do it. Whitaker played him great. A bit of more tension in his "acting as sax player" but that's ok. He's an actor, not a saxman. Besides, by showing this tension makes you think how big and how deep inside the music was while playing as Parker. Great movie
cmon ppl didn't have that kinda info then... we should be glad there's even a movie.
He deserves a better one though. And this film generated a lot of new press for bird
a great movie about the greatest gay jazz man of all times
tender moments galore, a treat especialy since the director is probably straight
my man and I love it
your truley
Rab Hines
@Tzazilas Well put! It is after all, a MOTION picture.
Eastwood could have focused less on the drug issue, but then some would call it a weak portrayal.
Coincidentally, the artist Jean Michel Basquiat, who was a huge fan of Bird's, lived and died very similarly. When the movie "Basquiat" was released there was criticism of the fact that his addiction was not portrayed prominently enough.
You can't please everyone
where can i watch
this only for free???????
Eastwood, before he was yelling at chairs...
this looks hilarious
This guy did a good job playing Bird, except the way he played the saxophone. If you watch videos of Charlie, he played with little movement. he looks like he is bored to death when he is playing, even when the tempo is burning. Of course they had to make it look like it was a big effort to play the alto, but in reality he made it look way too easy. The guy was a genius, and its tough to protray a genius correctly.
Hola yo vi la película y me intereso el músico, el hombre, que groso con su saxo pero que mal eso de las drogas t el alcohol.
no problem!
That guy doesn't even look like bird when he played!! He moves WAYYY too much and has all this affected tension in his shoulders and face! If you've ever seen footage of Bird playing, he was perfectly calm, still and effortless, not like some hokey actor trying to be all like 'cool' and jazzy.
is this movie a good one?
im a big fan of bird and dizzy
Genial
not really... they extracted real Bird play & dubbed over it with comtemporary muscian's rhythm sections.
Bad,,,,he didnt discover bop until a goodwhile later and hours upon days and nights of practicing,,,at the jam , before a few days after he thought all songs were in one key,,,,,,pretty bad huh? But what a growth from that.!
Mmmm, despite the "flaws" there is a lot of truth to this.
Bird...
Is the part when bird visits stockholm in this movie?
@Tommyfroboy How is that? Coud you clarify?
hola buenas noches oye de casualidad tentras la pelicula completa me la puedes enviar a este correo te lo agradecere o dime como la puedo conseg de antemano gracias.
Even thought he threw that cymbal, you've got to think about what would have happened if that cymbal was never thrown. Charlie was humiliated, but he came back later and blew everybody out of the water. But, I'm not disagreeing; I thought that was a really bad move.
I have personally seen drugs take out many artists, especially musicians but not exclusive to, and man the impact they could have had...I have seen alcohol do that as well so you don't get off scott- free.
@BASSHEAD89030 Thanks a lot!
did jones throw the symbal because nobody really heard bebop before, or was he just simply bad
Bird
@theblademaster01 April In Paris from Charlie Parker with Strings on Verve.
anyone know where I can find the full movie on the web?
Come on, this movie represented Forrest Whitaker's finest film and the artistic license allowed for, heck, demanded by the role was immense. If the role was too liberal you would have complained. And the way in which drugs took from him needed to be told as there are a lot of drugs in the music industry and the horror of what drugs do to people is renown. No?
I heard that Clint tried to get with Dizzy-but he wasn't interested.Is this TRUE? I have no idea...
As for everyone else,"I got nothin'"...lol
i think phil woods played the sax for this or some of the soundtrack,...
No
Man,you're so right...I've read an itw with Max Roach where he speaks about how wrong this movie is:it's more a movie about heroin addiction than about music;there are a lot of white people around Bird(don't get me wrong,i'm white!) which shows the pressure of Hollywood studios on Eastwood's work(as you put it a "minstrel show movie").Max also speaks about how clever Bird was and that he's been ashamed of how he's portrayed in this movie...but what does Mr Roach know about movie making,huh?...;)
@LSDpeasantry true
So,what kind of family does Spike Lee comes from?Well,your the only one that knows:)
People have that first choice shoot up or don't. you spend your life stealing from friends and pissing everyone off and this movie shows just that, Parker had a choice and screwed it , this shows the result of addiction + the result, he was a genius no doubt
would have been the same genius without skag and that first choice ?
whats the song at the beggining when hes in the club?
Lester Leaps In, by Lester Young
Anybody knows which song plays at 1:30? Thanks on advance
April in Paris
What is the song called, which is played at the end? (From 1:29)
now where the FUCK is Miles Davis in this movie ???????
But they showed Red Rodney every day of Bird's life.
Come on Clint! You make a movie about Charlie Parker and consult with Red Rodney but NOT Max Roach, Dizzy, Art Blakey, Miles, Roy Haynes who WHERE ALIVE at the time this movie was made! No Respect.
ummm no. bird actually was a pretty big dude.
lester leaps in by lester young
he was a heroin addict like many others are, dont think they over done it, it was what it was
"Laura"
@5t3r3054x
april in paris
Encias sangrantes?
forrest whitaker is the best... and charlie parker is better than the best of course^^
@afoolnluv35 that made no sense
Yardbird was not this nice...eh?
I dig Charlie Parker, I dig Clint Eastwood, I dig Forest Whitaker ,I di NOT dig this movie. It did not do Bird justice, It did not do Diz justice, Miles wasn't even in it but Red Rodney was? Definitely not Clint's best work.
I enjoy the movie, but it gets kind of awkward to see Forrest Whitaker pretend to play, a good effort but you can see it is fake...and some anachronisms, such as Buster Franklin´s bass player playing a MusicMan Stingray...on 1954?? Maybe Marty McFly took it back to the future, lol...
Charlie yarlie yarl yardbird yard bird drank too many 40s and got smacked
I agree with LSD. Whittaker doesn't do a good Bird. Too much shoulder movement and even the movements are out of sync with the beat. His "playing" looks completely fake. I guess they put too much emphasis on correct fingering and forgot about the rest.
this movie completely failed in portraying Bird accurately.
They got the big events right, but the nuances behind them were almost all wrong. For just one example, yes Bird was hospitalized to kick his habit. But no, he didn't get into fist fights with the other patients. Also, Bird's knowledge of Classical music, and pursuit of studying with composers like Varese were glossed over, while drug use and drinking was highlighted.
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I love Parker's music, but this movie looks corny.
Actually an awful movie. Better to watch a great Parker documentary, particularly a current Dutch production - in English, on RUclips.
"Laura", of course!
Originally recorded for the second "With Strings" album in 1950. Bernie Leighton (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d), Joe Lipman (arr/cond). Get the Complete Verve CD box, everything's there.
William