Heckel 10k vs. Püchner vs. Walter

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • Play testing a Püchner Superior and Walter against my Heckel 10k.
    1) Im not in excerpt shape
    2) I used the bocals that came with the instruments
    3) One take only
    I play the Heckel then the Püchner then the Walter for each excerpt.

Комментарии • 38

  • @thomasstone1363
    @thomasstone1363 5 лет назад +16

    to my ears & taste I like the Heckel and Walter the most.

  • @OMurchadha
    @OMurchadha 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for the video; I love to see comparisons like this. All other factors aside, I thought the Puchner's high E sounded noticeably different, in a good way. At any rate, great playing.

  • @patwade9249
    @patwade9249 3 года назад +3

    They all sound amazing played by you, Kris!

  • @lovermuzak
    @lovermuzak 3 года назад +12

    the Heckel sounds the best out of the 3 instruments and seems the most consistent throughout the whole range of the instrument. I think the Walter was the next best and the Puchner was definitely the worst out of the three.

  • @diezweizocken9700
    @diezweizocken9700 2 года назад +1

    Actually good playing for him. I would agree with lot of the comments here that he sounds best on his heckel. But what would like to say is, that everyone sounds different on different instruments espacially if you are not used to play on one of them. For me it is no surprise that he is sounding the best on his heckel, because it is his own instrument. Heckel is a great brand but it is very hard to get a new one. The price is high and the waiting list is to long. You will not sound good on an instrument that you are able to buy. Try bassoons. Everyone is different there are so many good brands out there.

  • @user-qb7qx2zt9k
    @user-qb7qx2zt9k 4 года назад +7

    heckel is the best

  • @alessiabrancia3899
    @alessiabrancia3899 2 года назад +5

    Is the intonation of the puchner a little bit flatter then the others instruments?

  • @bassoonwithaview
    @bassoonwithaview 2 года назад +1

    Of course you sound most comfortable on the Heckel but I assumed I would like the Puchner over the Walter, which definitely is not the case. There were even a few moments when it seemed like the Walter performed better than the Heckel. The Walter seems to enjoy a solid combination of response, roundness/characteristic tone, and clarity.

  • @Flitzefeuersocke
    @Flitzefeuersocke 28 дней назад

    I liked the second best.😊

  • @anthonyaveray1324
    @anthonyaveray1324 3 месяца назад

    Always very interesting. Can you include a Yamaha? I believe principals of BPO and Concertgebouw have played on them.

  • @fagocista1980
    @fagocista1980 3 года назад +5

    Walter has best intonation here especially second last solo highest register also rounded sound and all notes are same open, bright and rich sound. Puchner is the worst one here.

    • @TV-ql9qk
      @TV-ql9qk 2 года назад

      But too heavy oder? also to play a little

  • @moisandfrederic
    @moisandfrederic 6 месяцев назад

    Pucner superior is the best !

  • @Aa-vo9lf
    @Aa-vo9lf 2 года назад +1

    The Walter sounds like a 7 heckel

  • @zachmillwood
    @zachmillwood 2 года назад +1

    Beyond the subjective sound differences which are mitigated by RUclips's compression engine anyway, I'm most curious about your experience playing these instruments. Of course assuming that all instruments are different, they are not played the same amount and therefore are in different conditions, and your personal comfort with your instrument aside....
    The Walter seemed the heaviest, but the Puchner surprised me here. Your 10k sounded more even than the other two, but the others had more low color in their sound. A toss up, perhaps, depending on the hall and ensemble.

    • @gregfaris6959
      @gregfaris6959 Год назад

      Good point! A lot of the differences between instruments is not so much its intrinsic "sound", but the confidence and response it gives the player, allowing him/her to be their best.
      One of the things that's been happening with bassoons over the past few decades is that the walls of the instrument are getting thicker, making the instrument more resistant. It is in overcoming this resistance that many players feel they can develop better response. A beginner may find a 7000 series Heckel easier to play than a 14000 series, but orchestral players tend to favor the later series.

    • @zachmillwood
      @zachmillwood Год назад +1

      @@gregfaris6959 That has definitely been the case through time with Heckel up to (I may quote the wrong exact number, but it's around this) 13k, but supposedly the latest 16ks are finally lightening up. Bell makes an incredible, light, very facile instrument, especially his thin wall model.

  • @bassoonistfromhell
    @bassoonistfromhell 5 лет назад +12

    you gonna tease us just leaving that contra sitting there?

  • @bodefranklin1804
    @bodefranklin1804 Год назад +1

    Can you compare a moosmann with some of these, Please !🙂

  • @-nar6624
    @-nar6624 4 года назад +1

    it’s sad to see you not post as much anymore ;(

  • @alexandrakellermann2933
    @alexandrakellermann2933 3 года назад +1

    Ich spiele nicht Gagott, aber der Puchner wäre mein Favorit

  • @jason950216
    @jason950216 Год назад

    Sorry to ask but where was the excerpt from at @4:16 ? Great playing!

    • @firebirdsogood
      @firebirdsogood 10 месяцев назад

      Berlioz Symphonie fantastique 4th movement

  • @tomcypher3864
    @tomcypher3864 3 года назад +1

    For $35k they seem kinda off in the highs

  • @pr1s0n3r849
    @pr1s0n3r849 2 года назад +1

    Does anyone know what song that is around the 1:40 marker? I find myself humming it.

  • @lolshark99b49
    @lolshark99b49 2 года назад

    Heckel still the king

  • @Peter-gr8fj
    @Peter-gr8fj 4 года назад +2

    0:01
    0:26

    • @msg776
      @msg776 Месяц назад

      Puchner is better, fatter, for me. It is a matter of taste, the way the player plays, adjusts the bassoon to himself or adapts himself to the bassoon. I tried a couple of Heckels, old and new and was always negatively suprised how ordinary they play. I always found Puchner and Moosmann better. Especially for the insane price and waiting list of Heckel bassoons... For that amount of time and money, the bassoon should play itself, I just have to look at it and voila!

  • @claudiog.nogueiras2323
    @claudiog.nogueiras2323 4 года назад +7

    please add a Fox....

  • @paolopalicalligaris
    @paolopalicalligaris Год назад

    The Püchner sound low in intonation

  • @danielbeilman6498
    @danielbeilman6498 4 года назад +1

    Puchner, Walter, then the Heckel.

  • @scottbiggs8894
    @scottbiggs8894 4 года назад +1

    What models of Püchner and Walter?

    • @alexalestareon695
      @alexalestareon695 3 года назад

      I think a Puchner model 6000/ superior. Because I don’t see the link from the Ab/Bb trill to the Bb lever. And I think Walter only makes one model. If it were a Kronwalt I think he would’ve specified.

  • @noronha1514
    @noronha1514 5 лет назад

    The contraforte he catches up to the high fa?

  • @alexandrakellermann2933
    @alexandrakellermann2933 3 года назад

    Und das Ding da ganz rechts?????

  • @alefuentes9058
    @alefuentes9058 5 лет назад +2

    Difinitivamente heckel superior pero el walter no se queda atras ! Puchner como simpre y su sonido opaco