I recall one of the novel sensations of the 60's era was "Save Me the Waltz", by Zelda Fitzgerald, and also the biography you mentioned. They had a profound impact on young women in my home town. I was urged to read them and I did, but I didn't see the appeal. I do agree, especially in retrospect, that our definition and handling of mental illness as a purely clinical and pharmaceutical condition rather than symptomatic of social dysfunction, inadequate mental discipline, and lack of community has cost victims of the conventional system their best health and freedom. I think that problem persists today. Your portrayal of Joplin's roots and influences, especially in San Francisco, was very compelling. Those formative relationships probably best explain the trajectory of her life. I was always a fan because her musical interpretations were so authentic and moving, and have withstood the test of time. This was a great topic and well reported.
This… is a wonderful fresh take on Janis for me… thanks! Interesting how you made Janis the sole focus of this presentation without mentioning Albert Grossman, Jerry Garcia, Grace Slick or Jim Morrison…it’s always worth remembering that Janis, despite her addictions, had a strong work ethic and was not in any way lazy
Thank you for this video! Thinking about Janice and her life always leaves me sad. Not that the lives of others who died so young were not tragic, but her life was different for the reasons that you discussed. Have you ever read "Love Janice" by her sister Laura? This is a book written from the letters Janice wrote to Laura. Shows the most vulnerable, loving, hurt Janice.
I have been a Janis fan fan since I purchased the Woodstock album when it was first released. I had her albums on 8 track and played them on my 68 Plymouth Roadrunner At age 76 I am still a fan.
Big Brother used to get the worst reviews, but they were so innovative with sound systems. Breaking ground with guitars in the psychedelic genre ! I saw them many times across America, they did kick ass every time. Someone once said that Janis was ruining here opera chances, lol, she could scream. I loved to hear her sing !
It was with great sadness that she was already dead when "Me and Bobby McGee" became a huge hit. I still remember how strange it was to hear her sing that song with a lot of happiness, and what a great success she missed out on. I watched her on the Dick Cavett Show, and I think they became good friends. He respected Janis, and her intelligence, sensitivity, and individuality. I still watch them today. RIP Janis.❤❤❤
I loved this video , keeps me spellbound . Janice has a place at The Museum of Gulf Coast in Port Arthur Texas right next to Johnny and Edgar Winter . Her car is there too , the pchycodelic Porsche. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned when Janice and Johnny Winter recorded together . Well done on a great artist. Thanks again ROOTS !
I love this channel. My all time favorite episode was the Randy Rhoads one. One day please do a deep dive on Joe Walsh, Mark Knopfler, Keith Moon, EVH, & Steve Lukather, people from the 60’s 70’s and 80’s fascinate me. I think the last 24 hours Janis episode is what you were talking about, I’m sure you already know 😂 hilarious. Thank you for the facts 😊🎸
There's 3 books that came out right after she died.... David Dalton's Janis, Buried Alive, and Going Down With Janis....by people who knew her.... I can't stand people who make these videos about Janis 50 years after she passed away and get things wrong..... just my opinion
@@turquesa8668 All our knowledge of famous people comes from other people’s recollections of what happened, usually those people were also on drugs too. Unless the story comes straight from the person’s mouth, take it with a grain of salt
Now I gotta watch (again) that performance from Monterey Pop of Ball and Chain. Was spell binding the first time I saw it watching the film about the festival, and still is.
Stumbled onto your channel today. LOVE IT. I've had a love affair with music since I was 11 years old in 1968. I lived thru and grew up with Janis Joplin and many of the other artist you cover. To get a blow-by-blow recounting of the real story of these artist's life fills a huge void. When you are 11 hearing these artists music on my portable AM radio, never having a clue or even an idea about them as "mere mortals, earthly beings" never would cross my mind in those days. Thank you for your channel. You fill a huge void, pictures now made whole ❤😎
Thank you for this kind look at an amazing woman. Been thinking all day on this wild Nov 5 about the events of my previous 80 years. Janis was so representative of the supernovas of her era. Those who picked apart her lifestyle would have killed to be a part of it. If she had lived, my money says she’d have wrecked her vocal chords, made the best life possible despite it, settled into old age with as many wonderful memories and deep regrets as the rest of us. The world would be a dreary place were it not for the outliers like her. RIP sweet lady!
FYI; the photo shown when you’re talking about Seth was of Mick Jagger. Should’ve mentioned that Joplin’s‘partner in crime’, Sam Andrews, Big Brother’s lead guitarist, was a heroin addict too. She kept him when she built another band. She & Sam hid their addiction from their manager Albert Grossman who was adamant that he’d drop anyone using heroin. It’s also worth noting that Janis was due to return to the studio to lay down vocals for “Buried Alive In The Blues”, the last song on the Pearl album. That’s why it’s an instrumental. She never got to sing it & no lyrics were ever found for it. She took her lyrics to the grave.(or crematory, as it turned out)
UC Berkeley is in Berkeley, CA (in central CA, in the BayArea), not in hel"LA", which is in SoCal, 370 miles south of Berkeley... Thanx for discussing JanisJ; new subber.
My Janice Journey began with my meeting of a Janice Tribute Lady named Cathy. She sounded exactly like her. Even carried a bottle of Jack in her Jeans back pocket, although she didn't drink it. It was a beautiful thing that made me turn to buying Janice's albums and falling in love with her voice, attitude, look, songs, and story. We miss you Janice!!!
This is the best channel ever. I can tell you why, but I won't. It is important to keep it a mystery. I am doe-eyed, I am open to the mystic, the mysterious, but ultimately, perhaps I am simply riding in the passenger seat singing Me and Bobby McGee.
@@ROOTSMUSICHISTORY Check out Kris Kristopherson. We owe him so much for a long list of songs, and where is boundary between musical styles? The same goes for Willie Nelson who wrote Crazy, one of Patsy Kline's jazziest songs, and who must have inspired KD Lang somewhere in her journey.
Fascinating video. A huge Janice Joplin fan. Have been to the Joplin house and regional museum exhibit in Port Arthur. Have also been to F. Scott Fitzgerald and Zelda’s house, but didn’t know about the connection
Janis O.D.'d three blocks from where I type - renamed the Franklin Hotel on Franklin Avenue. The hotel changed it's name as tourists were unrelenting in their desire to reserve that room. It's still there and Janis' room is right out front...room 5? The Alta Cienega, Morrison's second home, is a hotel about two miles from here.
Yeah, I like this take on Janis' life. I do think she was continually looking for that one great love, and never really found it. But if you're right, and it sounds like you have a good basis for it, her ideal for that was a horribly tragic and toxically enmeshed relationship between two very bright, creative and disturbed people. "Depressed creatives," is a new term I'll take away from this. We'd wish that she could have survived 27 and in later years developed some kind of belief in her own beauty and worth. But that was not to be. Thanks for appreciating her, from one who thinks she WAS beautiful, and had a gift that will not be forgotten anytime soon.
I love your videos!!! I love Janis! I’ve done a lot of research on her. If you want to understand her better there are some great books out there. Some of your facts are off on this video. I don’t write that to be mean. Just FYI! Please keep doing what you’re doing! You are great!!!
I appreciate your story-telling, especially the importance to Janis of Scott and Zelda’s love. I moved to San Francisco in 1968, and heard her perform a couple times. I was involved with Big Brother after she had left them, and witnessed a heated and unpleasant argument between them at an apartment located between Haight St and the Panhandle. Shortly after her death, their roadie showed me her home in Marin County (Larkspur, I believe), and the gold record for Cheap Thrills was still hanging on the wall. Minor correction: In your narrative, it seemed to me, you got her time in L.A. and San Francisco mixed up. The Bay Area is San Francisco’s and is nowhere near Los Angeles. Marin County borders the North Bay, and is connected to S.F. by the Golden Gate Bridge. Grace Slick lived in Marin for years, and so did Jerry Garcia, and other members of the Grateful Dead. Also Robin Williams.
Thank you so much for such an informative and well thought out video about Janis. I came in here ready to read you for the filth(because most videos on YT about JJ are exploitative and focus only on the drug side of her life) but you humanized her here and I respect you for that. I have been a JJ fan since I was 15 and I am still deeply enamored by her 16 years after the fact. May I add a few facts here though: - Peggy Caserta died 2 weeks ago. Peggy was NO real friend to Janis's as she did her dirty in life and in death. There is this famous story that Peggy has told about Janis came to her looking for drugs and Peggy didn't want to give it and Janis told her that if she didn't give it to her, she would get it somewhere else. Instead of telling Janis to kick rocks like a real friend in that situation would, she helped her cop dope. Now tell me, is that something a true friend would do? - The documentary series that you are referring to is called "The last 24". - Seth Morgan was a user and an opportunist. Seth Morgan was a dope dealer. If Janis had married him, he would have probably tried to take her to the cleaners eventually in divorce court or something. Seth Morgan died in what I believe was a car accident back in '96. - The dealer that gave Janis the fatal dose of heroin knew 100 percent that the dope was bad. The dealer just got lazy and decided that he didn't want to cut it. That uncut heroin not only killed JJ but about 6 other people that same week. - Linda Gravenites was one of JJ's true friends during that period. If you read Ellis Amburn's book about JJ, you will see Linda gave JJ an ultimatium: she wanted her to quit the drugs or she was going back to London. Linda was JJ's fashion designer and the wife of Nick Gravenites. Linda died in 2002 and Nick died maybe about 3 months ago. - I had no clue that JJ went and had a will created several days before her death but I am not shocked. I think that maybe she had a sixth sense that something was about to happen and decided to take care of things beforehand. Oh and one might say that she made a will because she thought that the heroin would kill her. No, I think she made that will because she knew that either Albert Grossman or Clive Davis was about to try and do something to her and she wanted her ducks in a row. Albert Grossman stole from his artists(most notably Bob Dylan) and so maybe Janis found out that he was stealing from her too and he threatened to do something to her if she went to the press about it and maybe that is why she made the will. Janis was deeply considering leaving the industry at the height of her fame(or at least taking a few years off) to have a baby and maybe Clive Davis threatened to do something to her if she went that route and he threatened to do something to her and that could be why she made that will. Oh and that last theory is not too far off base because what is the long standing rumor about how Whitney Houston died? Whitney couldn't sing like she once did due to the drugs and Clive had her killed off...because he figured that he could make more money on her dead than alive. Happy Holidays. :)
Wow , bless her heart . It's almost like she didn't have a chance before she was ever born . And she was pretty before life beat the hell out of her . Seems a lot of musicans have a similar story .
I really enjoyed this podcast about Janis Joplin. But I had one complaint. Someone's probably already mentioned it (I haven't read all the way through), but University of California Berkeley is not in L.A. It is in the east San Francisco Bay area. Other than that, I appreciated that your podcast presentation included some information that I had not heard before.
In 1970 Janice gave birth to a little girl, and that was one of the reasons why she gave up the heroin. Later that year in September she went back to her High School reunion thinking to get more loved and receptive, but she wasn't, and she got back to California, and she did heroin for the first time in a long time, which took her life.Also back then, Texas was pretty straight and narrow, Texas didn't accept the hippie California lifestyle in them days, Texas was pretty Square. Proof of that is in the movie Easy Rider was 1969 and the restaurant was in Texas Dennis Hopper said the people in the restaurant were real townspeople they used in the film and there are dialogue was all ad-libbed which even scared Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper the one to leave before they got into trouble. I don't think Janice's overdose was a suicide I think she was hurt and bothered by the reception from her high school reunion and she was trying to find a escape from it.
Agree. What she said about the reunion was so sad. The narrator of this video seems to have interpreted it differently than I did. I thought Janis sounded very hurt at the reaction from her former classmates. It was just a huge reminder that, regardless of the adulation she got from fans, plenty of people still thought she was trash or ugly or however they viewed her. She seemed really down about it. It was so sad to see her feeling so hurt.
You're right, I was thinking about Cass Elliot and having a daughter, Janice did get pregnant and she did have an abortion in 1968. But it was still sad the last year of her life because she got off the heroin see her High School reunion and because the way people back then in Texas felt about hippies she didn't get the reception she was hoping for and to get some comfort from the heroine, she accidentally overdosed.
I've been performing since 1969. I have made hundreds of instruments and I taught myself all the skills - singing, guitar, vocal excellence, dancing and rock comedy with rock impersonations. Plus original songs. I've been sober since 1982. I perform on the Walk of Fame - Hollywood Boulevard. R'n'R and sobriety can co-exist. Come to L.A. and make a request, my repertoire consists of 13 thousand songs.
14 min in- you say she was voted Ugliest Man in her high school yearbook. Most sources say this happened in Austin by a fraternity. What is your source?
Sadly if you’re an addict. You’re an addict…..I felt back in those times,Janis got lost. I who she was, I never knew much about this decade not being born until 1961….I read yes later in a book, she had issues with her mum .YOUVE made some excellent points here. Also, what wasn’t said enough like her friend Cass Elliot …Janis was too, extremely intelligent…..which,can be ,part of an addictive person’s problem worse. As one of her band members once said, Janis didn’t just sing the blues,she LIVED THE BLUES”! I loved BALL &;CHAIN HOWEVER THEN I WASNT SOBER ! I still listen now but I’m sober as a judge.,Sad for years for her unrequited love. But she was one hella rock chick to my legendary icons looked up to. What you’re saying about her so called affairs” I suppose we will never know. Again,re her sad demise… Maybe she knew or why she did the H. The fact she died maybe alone ? It’s all SUS” To me….. It’s all I ever heard was the H. Likely she wouldn’t want her paraphernalia around. But you love your man,so called fiancée Janis was very sensitive lady, Your right about this fling” You’re right Peggy Caserta .ex my spelling ] ex she was I felt they were in a love- hate relationship- H - buddies) She cared very much about her weight skin etc. She was the tough Rock B then the sweetheart . I love her songs. She was my inspiration to my most fave artists Buckingham Nicks…eventually developed into the most popular band FLEETWOOD MAC! Stevie Nicks said her biggest INSPO was when Janis screamed for them to get the F off the stage ! Buckingham Nicks days back in the good old days ! You give him nothing in the will?
She was not that night taking drugs as someone said in kurt Cobain documentary if u want to murder a person u can get away murdering a junkie Very simple as there an easy targets. No one will question it because they hear or use to seeing them as taking drugs but they might not have taken drugs at that particular time they did it to Whitney Houston she did not have drugs in her system they said the same thing about DMX rapper because he took drugs in the past they naturally assumed he took drugs and he actually died from covid there was no drugs in his system and the same thing with Jimi Hendrix he was killed and the same thing with Janis many more artist.
Janis was born to be a blues/rock singer, and she defined this new genre with the incredible raw energy and soulfulness she brought to every live performance! The fact that Janis filed her will literally days before she passed is very suspicious and leads me to believe she may have faked her own death! She was also part of the 27 club thing which Jim Morrison & Jimi Hendrix were also members of, and both of their deaths were very suspicious as well!
Janis was with 2 women I believe. I know Peggy Caserta was one because I read her book. I think she had another female companion.... Janis was bisexual.
I loved Janis Joplin and always will. Such a talented woman, who sadly never did know who to trust and never did really find a loving home. In the case of Cohan writing the song he wrote about her, all I can say shame on him. That was a private moment in her life and he made it cheap.
I was thinking Janis partner looks alot like Mick. Made me chuckle with a picture of Mick being described as a dope dealer with that stoppy face looking on. I wouldn't be happy either :)
I am not really a Rock & Roll fanatic and I certainly don't idolize those involved in it. I have visited the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and have always wondered why most of the famious people in the industry committed suicide, died of over doses, or died in a car crash. Listening to their history has given me some insites.
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While I appreciate most of your video, your use of the words "these people" derogatorily just shows how ignorant you are about artists. I am an artist myself; we are generally very sensitive, far-seeing, and visionary people. You should try hanging out with us; you might learn a thing or two.
I’m sorry you felt and interpreted my language that way. I live in Nashville on Music Row. All my friends are songwriters, artists and guitarists, etc…as am I.
One thing I've never understood fully is this point regarding her "activity" after shooting up. High test dope would take you out immediately if you're running it intravenously. I mean it's wallop is strongest after you loose the tourniquet. You don't go looking to attend to chores after that. The summations never made sense to me.
Janis took all of that abuse and horror and transformed the white hot rage and pain into song. I do the same. Jimi was murdered on my 16th birthday. There is a vid of Jimi hanging out in a garden on September 16th, 1970 and you can see the soul gone out of his eyes and it is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen. Jimi knew when it was time to split. That old super-8 film might be in YT. Oh to be young and upper-middle class.
You do a good show and I appreciate the research but I think you would enhance your show if you provided links to books for people who want to learn more and I hope you're reading all the major biographies on her. I got to see her live perform and I've read everything I could and seen every film but apparently I wasn't paying enough attention to the Zelda Fitzgerald influence on her. For any of these artists that your profiling without having to imitate the deep dive of Andrew hickeys The History of Rock in 500 songs you may find a bonanza of useful biographical material
So Janis got some ____ and some _____ and decided to _____ in her room, when she went to get some _____ . The ______ turned out to be bad ______ . After she ______ it, she fell and _____ . But she wasn't ______ ; she did not ______ herself. Got it. Thanks, RUclips. A real blow for communication.
"She wasn't addressing anything. She actually didn't learn anything in her recovery" with the side eye eye roll and dismissive single hand air quote. Hmm. Lol
Why do they silence the words when referring to drugs ? Wouldn't it be more realistic to put parental discretion advised then denying the words exist,? Just an observation
I really liked your June and Johnny Cash video. However, as a quite young person who never experienced the times that occurred in that extraordinary period of history, you don't seem to have a clue about the forces influencing a Joplin, Hendrix or Morrison. First of all, Janis called herself one the last beatniks which doesn't imply her life was in ruin in the early 60's but that she was thinking deeply about issues and basically lived a life that was in total rejection of the norms of the day. Acid was one of the main things that caused the mass rejection of the "Father Knows Best" lifestyle that was status quo existing until the mass arrival of hippies occurred and crashed into what had been before and also caused the evolvement from the father Beatniks to their hippy childs. Someone who has never been a part of that culture can never accurately portray it to an audience, although many think they can. Clearly, she had her mind blown with acid and saw realities that ordinary ppl had no clue were there. All the Carlos Castenada books refer to it. Usually, the ppl that become legends create intensely for 5 or ten years and usually they do lots of drugs, they often see their impending death though they don't know exactly when or where and we are left with images of these people dying at the peak of their popularity though it is usually a period that tells them that their inspirational work is mostly done.. In that way, Morrison Joplin and Hendrix were exactly alike. I hate to imagine what these folks would look like today and legend status, all but nullified had they found ways to continue. You probably know this quote where she said, "I just made love to 20,000 people but I'm going home alone." Intensely aware people, become separated from others because that reality separates them less a bridge such as whisky, drugs, etc are used to help them get playful in their head thus, temporarily allowing them fun socializing Did you know the hippy movement was born in LA and was a government psyop that included Charles Manson, the Mamas and Poppas all inviting the public to join? Sho nuf!
The late Sixes was a time of Weed and LSD and very few users of Heroin and Janis didn't get into that Smack scene until she was on her own living in LA after leaving Big Brother and the Holding Company which was was her biggest mistake.... So some of your info about Janis is not correct... I know people that knew Janis back in the days of Big Brother.
You mention Seth Morgan but put up a photo of Mick Jagger, as far as I know these two men never met each other and Seth was much more than a dope dealer though he probably was the guy that brought Heroin into the life of Janis.
Well i think too much community hampers my mental health,but Yes,good points,i hate the lack of professionalism as I see it,like where i contract rides due to permanent disability abd P/u is 10 AM,rge driver thinks I should be ready to rock when she's there st 8:30 cold,no heads up. And if i say i wasn't ready cuz i contracted for 10 she's gonna wait till i get there she's blowing gasket they working her too hard Too much,i remind her im disabled and rushing isn't an option and she's there to accommodate me,not v/v
Interesting story. I believe the narrative kinda plays her the victim when in reality l think she was mostly a victim of her own insecurities derived from ostracisicm in her early years that led to an outsider emotional persona. A contrived extravertion designed to mask those insecurities. Sadly, addictive drugs quite often are also capable of fatality whether one is an addict or not. As far as switching bands, that was probably something pushed by the management.
hey i like yr tree roots image it´s nice did u know that from yr great great grandparents up untill you = 31 people like in wayfer going out & the further u go back in time the more people exponentially are add to that wayfer and the larger and larger that wayfer becomes and of all of those people u are a version off i think
She's the one entertainer all my, well some family and friends liked,but the repetitive screaming of one word over and OVER and ,OVER ,no ma'am, all due respect,none of my circle likes Momma's mad cuz I fried my brain by turbo fruits but it kicks.
I recall one of the novel sensations of the 60's era was "Save Me the Waltz", by Zelda Fitzgerald, and also the biography you mentioned. They had a profound impact on young women in my home town. I was urged to read them and I did, but I didn't see the appeal. I do agree, especially in retrospect, that our definition and handling of mental illness as a purely clinical and pharmaceutical condition rather than symptomatic of social dysfunction, inadequate mental discipline, and lack of community has cost victims of the conventional system their best health and freedom. I think that problem persists today. Your portrayal of Joplin's roots and influences, especially in San Francisco, was very compelling. Those formative relationships probably best explain the trajectory of her life. I was always a fan because her musical interpretations were so authentic and moving, and have withstood the test of time. This was a great topic and well reported.
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This…
is a wonderful fresh take on Janis for me… thanks!
Interesting how you made Janis the sole focus of this presentation without mentioning Albert Grossman, Jerry Garcia, Grace Slick
or Jim Morrison…it’s always worth remembering that Janis, despite her addictions, had a strong work ethic and was not in any way lazy
I'm moved beyond words by your work. Love and gratitude, Alan Chapman
Thank you for this video! Thinking about Janice and her life always leaves me sad. Not that the lives of others who died so young were not tragic, but her life was different for the reasons that you discussed. Have you ever read "Love Janice" by her sister Laura? This is a book written from the letters Janice wrote to Laura. Shows the most vulnerable, loving, hurt Janice.
@@toddgiambruno Yes, yes, and Yes!!! Not many ppl know her sister's book..unless their mad fans of Janice!! ❤
I have been a Janis fan fan since I purchased the Woodstock album when it was first released. I had her albums on 8 track and played them on my 68 Plymouth Roadrunner At age 76 I am still a fan.
Big Brother used to get the worst reviews, but they were so innovative with sound systems. Breaking ground with
guitars in the psychedelic genre ! I saw them many times across America, they did kick ass every time. Someone
once said that Janis was ruining here opera chances, lol, she could scream. I loved to hear her sing !
It was with great sadness that she was already dead when "Me and Bobby McGee" became a huge hit. I still remember how strange it was to hear her sing that song with a lot of happiness, and what a great success she missed out on. I watched her on the Dick Cavett Show, and I think they became good friends. He respected Janis, and her intelligence, sensitivity, and individuality. I still watch them today. RIP Janis.❤❤❤
I loved this video , keeps me spellbound . Janice has a place at The Museum of Gulf Coast in Port Arthur Texas right next to Johnny and Edgar Winter . Her car is there too , the pchycodelic Porsche. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned when Janice and Johnny Winter recorded together . Well done on a great artist. Thanks again ROOTS !
It's Janis🙄
" You know how those fancy parties go...." Almost fell out of my chair laughing. Great video!
Hahaha! I’m so glad you enjoyed!
I love this channel. My all time favorite episode was the Randy Rhoads one. One day please do a deep dive on Joe Walsh, Mark Knopfler, Keith Moon, EVH, & Steve Lukather, people from the 60’s 70’s and 80’s fascinate me.
I think the last 24 hours Janis episode is what you were talking about, I’m sure you already know 😂 hilarious. Thank you for the facts 😊🎸
Another great video, I learned so much!
There's 3 books that came out right after she died.... David Dalton's Janis, Buried Alive, and Going Down With Janis....by people who knew her.... I can't stand people who make these videos about Janis 50 years after she passed away and get things wrong..... just my opinion
@@turquesa8668 All our knowledge of famous people comes from other people’s recollections of what happened, usually those people were also on drugs too. Unless the story comes straight from the person’s mouth, take it with a grain of salt
Now I gotta watch (again) that performance from Monterey Pop of Ball and Chain. Was spell binding the first time I saw it watching the film about the festival, and still is.
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Stumbled onto your channel today. LOVE IT. I've had a love affair with music since I was 11 years old in 1968. I lived thru and grew up with Janis Joplin and many of the other artist you cover. To get a blow-by-blow recounting of the real story of these artist's life fills a huge void. When you are 11 hearing these artists music on my portable AM radio, never having a clue or even an idea about them as "mere mortals, earthly beings" never would cross my mind in those days. Thank you for your channel. You fill a huge void, pictures now made whole ❤😎
Thank you for all your research and perspective on Janis, it was really fascinating
A beautiful soul and great talent. Gone too soon. RIP
Love Janis ❤❤❤ Many thanks for the videos
Thank you for this kind look at an amazing woman. Been thinking all day on this wild Nov 5 about the events of my previous 80 years. Janis was so representative of the supernovas of her era. Those who picked apart her lifestyle would have killed to be a part of it. If she had lived, my money says she’d have wrecked her vocal chords, made the best life possible despite it, settled into old age with as many wonderful memories and deep regrets as the rest of us. The world would be a dreary place were it not for the outliers like her. RIP sweet lady!
FYI; the photo shown when you’re talking about Seth was of Mick Jagger. Should’ve mentioned that Joplin’s‘partner in crime’, Sam Andrews, Big Brother’s lead guitarist, was a heroin addict too. She kept him when she built another band. She & Sam hid their addiction from their manager Albert Grossman who was adamant that he’d drop anyone using heroin. It’s also worth noting that Janis was due to return to the studio to lay down vocals for “Buried Alive In The Blues”, the last song on the Pearl album. That’s why it’s an instrumental. She never got to sing it & no lyrics were ever found for it. She took her lyrics to the grave.(or crematory, as it turned out)
I was sure that was a young Mick Jagger, then figured maybe it was a lookalike. Glad you saw it too.
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@@Neevie-Styxthis ish is all over the place and not entirely factual...
Isn’t that a pic of young Mick Jagger, not Seth Morgan?
That's what I thought!
This is amazing!!🥰
UC Berkeley is in Berkeley, CA (in central CA, in the BayArea), not in hel"LA", which is in SoCal, 370 miles south of Berkeley...
Thanx for discussing JanisJ; new subber.
This is a beautiful rendition of Janis. Thank you. I was 11 when she passed and had just listening to her. So sad.
I thought I was fairly learned on Janis
But I never knew the Fitzgerald angle. Great job. Thanks!
Oh. And glad to see you back after yesterday.👍
My Janice Journey began with my meeting of a Janice Tribute Lady named Cathy. She sounded exactly like her. Even carried a bottle of Jack in her Jeans back pocket, although she didn't drink it. It was a beautiful thing that made me turn to buying Janice's albums and falling in love with her voice, attitude, look, songs, and story. We miss you Janice!!!
This is the best channel ever. I can tell you why, but I won't. It is important to keep it a mystery. I am doe-eyed, I am open to the mystic, the mysterious, but ultimately, perhaps I am simply riding in the passenger seat singing Me and Bobby McGee.
Thank you so much !! ♥️♥️🎶🎶
@@ROOTSMUSICHISTORY Check out Kris Kristopherson. We owe him so much for a long list of songs, and where is boundary between musical styles? The same goes for Willie Nelson who wrote Crazy, one of Patsy Kline's jazziest songs, and who must have inspired KD Lang somewhere in her journey.
Fascinating video. A huge Janice Joplin fan. Have been to the Joplin house and regional museum exhibit in Port Arthur. Have also been to F. Scott Fitzgerald and Zelda’s house, but didn’t know about the connection
Why the pic of mick jagger?
Book is titled “Going Down With Janis”. (Get it ?)
By Peggy Caserta.
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Janis O.D.'d three blocks from where I type - renamed the Franklin Hotel on Franklin Avenue. The hotel changed it's name as tourists were unrelenting in their desire to reserve that room. It's still there and Janis' room is right out front...room 5? The Alta Cienega, Morrison's second home, is a hotel about two miles from here.
Small note: at 34:32 you say 1980.
No big deal really, just an fyi.
Great info in here - thank you !
Yeah, I like this take on Janis' life. I do think she was continually looking for that one great love, and never really found it. But if you're right, and it sounds like you have a good basis for it, her ideal for that was a horribly tragic and toxically enmeshed relationship between two very bright, creative and disturbed people. "Depressed creatives," is a new term I'll take away from this. We'd wish that she could have survived 27 and in later years developed some kind of belief in her own beauty and worth. But that was not to be. Thanks for appreciating her, from one who thinks she WAS beautiful, and had a gift that will not be forgotten anytime soon.
So you tell us that Janis was overweight with unkempt hair at 13:50, but show us a photo of quite the opposite. What's up with that?
Your videos are interesting and informative.
I love your videos!!! I love Janis! I’ve done a lot of research on her. If you want to understand her better there are some great books out there. Some of your facts are off on this video. I don’t write that to be mean. Just FYI! Please keep doing what you’re doing! You are great!!!
I appreciate your story-telling, especially the importance to Janis of Scott and Zelda’s love. I moved to San Francisco in 1968, and heard her perform a couple times. I was involved with Big Brother after she had left them, and witnessed a heated and unpleasant argument between them at an apartment located between Haight St and the Panhandle. Shortly after her death, their roadie showed me her home in Marin County (Larkspur, I believe), and the gold record for Cheap Thrills was still hanging on the wall.
Minor correction: In your narrative, it seemed to me, you got her time in L.A. and San Francisco mixed up. The Bay Area is San Francisco’s and is nowhere near Los Angeles. Marin County borders the North Bay, and is connected to S.F. by the Golden Gate Bridge. Grace Slick lived in Marin for years, and so did Jerry Garcia, and other members of the Grateful Dead. Also Robin Williams.
Thank you guys for correcting me on this!! Sometimes when I sit there talking for an hour after working a full time job, too, I make a slip up!!!
Thank you so much for such an informative and well thought out video about Janis. I came in here ready to read you for the filth(because most videos on YT about JJ are exploitative and focus only on the drug side of her life) but you humanized her here and I respect you for that. I have been a JJ fan since I was 15 and I am still deeply enamored by her 16 years after the fact.
May I add a few facts here though:
- Peggy Caserta died 2 weeks ago. Peggy was NO real friend to Janis's as she did her dirty in life and in death. There is this famous story that Peggy has told about Janis came to her looking for drugs and Peggy didn't want to give it and Janis told her that if she didn't give it to her, she would get it somewhere else. Instead of telling Janis to kick rocks like a real friend in that situation would, she helped her cop dope. Now tell me, is that something a true friend would do?
- The documentary series that you are referring to is called "The last 24".
- Seth Morgan was a user and an opportunist. Seth Morgan was a dope dealer. If Janis had married him, he would have probably tried to take her to the cleaners eventually in divorce court or something. Seth Morgan died in what I believe was a car accident back in '96.
- The dealer that gave Janis the fatal dose of heroin knew 100 percent that the dope was bad. The dealer just got lazy and decided that he didn't want to cut it. That uncut heroin not only killed JJ but about 6 other people that same week.
- Linda Gravenites was one of JJ's true friends during that period. If you read Ellis Amburn's book about JJ, you will see Linda gave JJ an ultimatium: she wanted her to quit the drugs or she was going back to London. Linda was JJ's fashion designer and the wife of Nick Gravenites. Linda died in 2002 and Nick died maybe about 3 months ago.
- I had no clue that JJ went and had a will created several days before her death but I am not shocked. I think that maybe she had a sixth sense that something was about to happen and decided to take care of things beforehand. Oh and one might say that she made a will because she thought that the heroin would kill her. No, I think she made that will because she knew that either Albert Grossman or Clive Davis was about to try and do something to her and she wanted her ducks in a row.
Albert Grossman stole from his artists(most notably Bob Dylan) and so maybe Janis found out that he was stealing from her too and he threatened to do something to her if she went to the press about it and maybe that is why she made the will.
Janis was deeply considering leaving the industry at the height of her fame(or at least taking a few years off) to have a baby and maybe Clive Davis threatened to do something to her if she went that route and he threatened to do something to her and that could be why she made that will.
Oh and that last theory is not too far off base because what is the long standing rumor about how Whitney Houston died? Whitney couldn't sing like she once did due to the drugs and Clive had her killed off...because he figured that he could make more money on her dead than alive.
Happy Holidays. :)
Great job very informative.
Wow , bless her heart . It's almost like she didn't have a chance before she was ever born .
And she was pretty before life beat the hell out of her . Seems a lot of musicans have a similar story .
I really enjoyed this podcast about Janis Joplin. But I had one complaint. Someone's probably already mentioned it (I haven't read all the way through), but University of California Berkeley is not in L.A. It is in the east San Francisco Bay area. Other than that, I appreciated that your podcast presentation included some information that I had not heard before.
Thank you guys for correcting me on this!! Sometimes when I sit there talking for an hour after working a full time job, too, I make a slip up!!!
In 1970 Janice gave birth to a little girl, and that was one of the reasons why she gave up the heroin. Later that year in September she went back to her High School reunion thinking to get more loved and receptive, but she wasn't, and she got back to California, and she did heroin for the first time in a long time, which took her life.Also back then, Texas was pretty straight and narrow, Texas didn't accept the hippie California lifestyle in them days, Texas was pretty Square. Proof of that is in the movie Easy Rider was 1969 and the restaurant was in Texas Dennis Hopper said the people in the restaurant were real townspeople they used in the film and there are dialogue was all ad-libbed which even scared Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper the one to leave before they got into trouble. I don't think Janice's overdose was a suicide I think she was hurt and bothered by the reception from her high school reunion and she was trying to find a escape from it.
Agree. What she said about the reunion was so sad. The narrator of this video seems to have interpreted it differently than I did. I thought Janis sounded very hurt at the reaction from her former classmates. It was just a huge reminder that, regardless of the adulation she got from fans, plenty of people still thought she was trash or ugly or however they viewed her. She seemed really down about it. It was so sad to see her feeling so hurt.
What are you talking about? Janis never gave birth to a little girl in 1970! 🙄 or ever in her life.
You're right, I was thinking about Cass Elliot and having a daughter, Janice did get pregnant and she did have an abortion in 1968. But it was still sad the last year of her life because she got off the heroin see her High School reunion and because the way people back then in Texas felt about hippies she didn't get the reception she was hoping for and to get some comfort from the heroine, she accidentally overdosed.
@@AndreaA127 - yeah, I obviously missed that. Janis had a baby? 😳
Mercedes Benz was her final recording in... '1980'???? How'd she manage that!!!?? 😅
I've been performing since 1969. I have made hundreds of instruments and I taught myself all the skills - singing, guitar, vocal excellence, dancing and rock comedy with rock impersonations. Plus original songs. I've been sober since 1982. I perform on the Walk of Fame - Hollywood Boulevard. R'n'R and sobriety can co-exist. Come to L.A. and make a request, my repertoire consists of 13 thousand songs.
14 min in- you say she was voted Ugliest Man in her high school yearbook. Most sources say this happened in Austin by a fraternity. What is your source?
Sadly if you’re an addict. You’re an addict…..I felt back in those times,Janis got lost. I who she was, I never knew much about this decade not being born until 1961….I read yes later in a book, she had issues with her mum .YOUVE made some excellent points here. Also, what wasn’t said enough like her friend Cass Elliot …Janis was too, extremely intelligent…..which,can be ,part of an addictive person’s problem worse.
As one of her band members once said, Janis didn’t just sing the blues,she LIVED THE BLUES”!
I loved BALL &;CHAIN HOWEVER THEN I WASNT SOBER ! I still listen now but I’m sober as a judge.,Sad for years for her unrequited love.
But she was one hella rock chick to my legendary icons looked up to.
What you’re saying about her so called affairs” I suppose we will never know.
Again,re her sad demise…
Maybe she knew or why she did the H.
The fact she died maybe alone ?
It’s all SUS”
To me…..
It’s all I ever heard was the H.
Likely she wouldn’t want her paraphernalia around.
But you love your man,so called fiancée
Janis was very sensitive lady,
Your right about this fling”
You’re right Peggy Caserta .ex my spelling ] ex she was I felt they were in a love- hate relationship- H - buddies)
She cared very much about her weight skin etc. She was the tough Rock B then the sweetheart .
I love her songs.
She was my inspiration to my most fave artists Buckingham Nicks…eventually developed into the most popular band FLEETWOOD MAC!
Stevie Nicks said her biggest INSPO was when Janis screamed for them to get the F off the stage !
Buckingham Nicks days back in the good old days !
You give him nothing in the will?
She was not that night taking drugs as someone said in kurt Cobain documentary if u want to murder a person u can get away murdering a junkie Very simple as there an easy targets. No one will question it because they hear or use to seeing them as taking drugs but they might not have taken drugs at that particular time they did it to Whitney Houston she did not have drugs in her system they said the same thing about DMX rapper because he took drugs in the past they naturally assumed he took drugs and he actually died from covid there was no drugs in his system and the same thing with Jimi Hendrix he was killed and the same thing with Janis many more artist.
Janis was born to be a blues/rock singer, and she defined this new genre with the incredible raw energy and soulfulness she brought to every live performance! The fact that Janis filed her will literally days before she passed is very suspicious and leads me to believe she may have faked her own death! She was also part of the 27 club thing which Jim Morrison & Jimi Hendrix were also members of, and both of their deaths were very suspicious as well!
Berkley is not in LA.. it is in the San Francisco / Oakland Bay Area :)
Thank you all for correcting this! I make these podcasts after working and talking all day and always have at least ONE slip up!
Sounds a lot lik T.S. Eliott an his wife.
Classy show.i hope you do well.time....peace.
Great show
You said 1980…
Janis was with 2 women I believe. I know Peggy Caserta was one because I read her book. I think she had another female companion.... Janis was bisexual.
Crazy how Seth Morgan looks just like Mick Jagger...
I loved Janis Joplin and always will. Such a talented woman, who sadly never did know who to trust and never did really find a loving home. In the case of Cohan writing the song he wrote about her, all I can say shame on him. That was a private moment in her life and he made it cheap.
This host is stunning looking
That’s so kind 🥹♥️
@@ROOTSMUSICHISTORY and this episode on Janis is good too.
My friend flew out of Woodstock with Jimi & Janis on a helicopter, and Janis laid her head down in Jimi Hendrix's lap and puked all over Jimi.
I'm surprised you didn't say "mugs" in lieu of "drugs" like you did in a previous video 😁🤣
Ahh you’ve got a pic of Mick Jagger in your video???
lol what?? Where !?
I was thinking Janis partner looks alot like Mick. Made me chuckle with a picture of Mick being described as a dope dealer with that stoppy face looking on. I wouldn't be happy either :)
Oh that’s hilarious haha! For a second I was scared like photos might have gotten mixed up!! 🤣🤣
@@ROOTSMUSICHISTORY 32:42. I would say that's Mick Jagger, but I've never seen a picture of Seth Morgan :)
I was thinking it was Mick Jagger as well, lol
Janise was a super singer❤❤❤ realy super❤
I am not really a Rock & Roll fanatic and I certainly don't idolize those involved in it. I have visited the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and have always wondered why most of the famious people in the industry committed suicide, died of over doses, or died in a car crash. Listening to their history has given me some insites.
MOST non-creative peephole, live long livez, bcause sumbody else, createz their livez, 4 em.
B CAREFUL!!!!
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N otha wordz, goin along, 2 git along, mayb just azz dangerous, azz bein ur own person, 2day.
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UC Berkeley is nowhere near LA as its just across the Bay from San Francisco.
While I appreciate most of your video, your use of the words "these people" derogatorily just shows how ignorant you are about artists. I am an artist myself; we are generally very sensitive, far-seeing, and visionary people. You should try hanging out with us; you might learn a thing or two.
I’m sorry you felt and interpreted my language that way. I live in Nashville on Music Row. All my friends are songwriters, artists and guitarists, etc…as am I.
Also the bleeping for coin ,are everyone's values and real life been rubbed out ,
@@ROOTSMUSICHISTORY my apologies. Maybe I did misinterpret.
@@ROOTSMUSICHISTORY oops!
One thing I've never understood fully is this point regarding her "activity" after shooting up. High test dope would take you out immediately if you're running it intravenously. I mean it's wallop is strongest after you loose the tourniquet. You don't go looking to attend to chores after that. The summations never made sense to me.
Janis took all of that abuse and horror and transformed the white hot rage and pain into song. I do the same. Jimi was murdered on my 16th birthday. There is a vid of Jimi hanging out in a garden on September 16th, 1970 and you can see the soul gone out of his eyes and it is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen. Jimi knew when it was time to split. That old super-8 film might be in YT. Oh to be young and upper-middle class.
You do a good show and I appreciate the research but I think you would enhance your show if you provided links to books for people who want to learn more and I hope you're reading all the major biographies on her. I got to see her live perform and I've read everything I could and seen every film but apparently I wasn't paying enough attention to the Zelda Fitzgerald influence on her. For any of these artists that your profiling without having to imitate the deep dive of Andrew hickeys The History of Rock in 500 songs you may find a bonanza of useful biographical material
Love history well done❤
When you mention Seth Morgan, why do you put up a photo of Mick Jagger 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Dont think youve got all your facts correctly... Never heard she went to Los Angeles... She and Peggy Caserta were definitely an item.
"Down On Me"? Just a book title guess. Imma no research right now.
The word you're looking for when she came back to her high school reunion is "contrite".
Depressed creatives? The "I miss the comfort in being sad." type. (btw, when's the dinner party, Audrey?)
So Janis got some ____ and some _____ and decided to _____ in her room, when she went to get some _____ . The ______ turned out to be bad ______ . After she ______ it, she fell and _____ . But she wasn't ______ ; she did not ______ herself.
Got it. Thanks, RUclips. A real blow for communication.
Janis, lookz like she coulda been Eddie Van Halenz, sister.
Imagine, those 2, n a band.
"She wasn't addressing anything. She actually didn't learn anything in her recovery" with the side eye eye roll and dismissive single hand air quote. Hmm. Lol
Janis Joplin always exudes tragedy. How could your heart not go out to her?
Why do they silence the words when referring to drugs ? Wouldn't it be more realistic to put parental discretion advised then denying the words exist,? Just an observation
Berkeley is not in LA
Thank you guys for correcting me on this!! Sometimes when I sit there talking for an hour after working a full time job, too, I make a slip up!!!
his name was seth morgan and you show a picture of mick jagger??...
I really liked your June and Johnny Cash video. However, as a quite young person who never experienced the times that occurred in that extraordinary period of history, you don't seem to have a clue about the forces influencing a Joplin, Hendrix or Morrison. First of all, Janis called herself one the last beatniks which doesn't imply her life was in ruin in the early 60's but that she was thinking deeply about issues and basically lived a life that was in total rejection of the norms of the day. Acid was one of the main things that caused the mass rejection of the "Father Knows Best" lifestyle that was status quo existing until the mass arrival of hippies occurred and crashed into what had been before and also caused the evolvement from the father Beatniks to their hippy childs.
Someone who has never been a part of that culture can never accurately portray it to an audience, although many think they can. Clearly, she had her mind blown with acid and saw realities that ordinary ppl had no clue were there. All the Carlos Castenada books refer to it.
Usually, the ppl that become legends create intensely for 5 or ten years and usually they do lots of drugs, they often see their impending death though they don't know exactly when or where and we are left with images of these people dying at the peak of their popularity though it is usually a period that tells them that their inspirational work is mostly done.. In that way, Morrison Joplin and Hendrix were exactly alike.
I hate to imagine what these folks would look like today and legend status, all but nullified had they found ways to continue.
You probably know this quote where she said, "I just made love to 20,000 people but I'm going home alone." Intensely aware people, become separated from others because that reality separates them less a bridge such as whisky, drugs, etc are used to help them get playful in their head thus, temporarily allowing them fun socializing
Did you know the hippy movement was born in LA and was a government psyop that included Charles Manson, the Mamas and Poppas all inviting the public to join? Sho nuf!
The late Sixes was a time of Weed and LSD and very few users of Heroin and Janis didn't get into that Smack scene until she was on her own living in LA after leaving Big Brother and the Holding Company which was was her biggest mistake....
So some of your info about Janis is not correct...
I know people that knew Janis back in the days of Big Brother.
Srry cant listen if bleeping for coin ,
Virginia Woolf as described by Minnie Mouse
Everyone's a liberal hi-o institutionalized of learning x-pert these days
You mention Seth Morgan but put up a photo of Mick Jagger, as far as I know these two men never met each other and Seth was much more than a dope dealer though he probably was the guy that brought Heroin into the life of Janis.
Janice Joslyn was the ONE
Well i think too much community hampers my mental health,but Yes,good points,i hate the lack of professionalism as I see it,like where i contract rides due to permanent disability abd P/u is 10 AM,rge driver thinks I should be ready to rock when she's there st 8:30 cold,no heads up. And if i say i wasn't ready cuz i contracted for 10 she's gonna wait till i get there she's blowing gasket they working her too hard
Too much,i remind her im disabled and rushing isn't an option and she's there to accommodate me,not v/v
Sorry for typos, MB neuropathy due to spinal stenosis, BB ut unprofessionalism mentals me mentality mentally
Interesting story. I believe the narrative kinda plays her the victim when in reality l think she was mostly a victim of her own insecurities derived from ostracisicm in her early years that led to an outsider emotional persona. A contrived extravertion designed to mask those insecurities. Sadly, addictive drugs quite often are also capable of fatality whether one is an addict or not.
As far as switching bands, that was probably something pushed by the management.
A lot of her insecurities came from her looks but she was also bi or a lesbian during a time it was against the law
hey i like yr tree roots image it´s nice
did u know that from yr great great grandparents up untill you = 31 people
like in wayfer going out & the further u go back in time the more people exponentially
are add to that wayfer and the larger and larger that wayfer becomes
and of all of those people u are a version off i think
I Put a Spell On You!
She's the one entertainer all my, well some family and friends liked,but the repetitive screaming of one word over and OVER and ,OVER ,no ma'am, all due respect,none of my circle likes Momma's mad cuz I fried my brain by turbo fruits but it kicks.
janis got passed around.
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Coffee. be glad you get a like !