"O Mio Babbino Caro" by Floor Jansen | Twitch Vocal Coach/Opera Singer First Time Reaction
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I promissed to tell what some other coaches said , They mentioned her frown while singing 👀 I think she just feels the lyrics while she sings. Not so much tension in itself but the tension of IN-tension. But one reactor called "the Charismatic Voice"caught her IN-tension too 😍😎😁 (Alsoo Floor Jansen & Red Limo String Quartet : Energize Me (Live accoustic 2009) ruclips.net/video/HYDT750h4L8/видео.html 👀👀👀)
Nice.. Please do reaction for Vanny Vabiola (Celine Dion) of Indonesia..she has an Amazing Voice ever check this out : ruclips.net/video/Tw17ucDBNxc/видео.html
4:21 yep. I'm Italian, and her diction it's perfect. She can tell the "r" , the double consonants. all the words were spoken correctly.
@@AntonioChiurazzi 💕💕💕
There is also an earlier version from 2010 where she sings this WITHOUT a microphone!!!!
ruclips.net/video/v7WhqdWZ5YE/видео.html
If anyone wants to know what makes Floor so good, show them this and then Yours is an empty hope back to back
Yeah! This Clip, the Final Growl
ruclips.net/video/376NfgQbLk8/видео.html
Throw in her final belt from Wacken 2013 Ghost Love Score just to seal the deal....
@@okiejohn3925 OH YEAH!!!!!
Haha! Yeah, or so many other songs she just slays... Floor can sing anything.
Plus a live take of Disdain by Revamp
funny part of the episode is when she's introduced and they play a nightwish clip and a little girl in the audience is bewilderingly confused looking between Floor and the projection screen thinking...that can't be her!
Hi Big brain Singer, check out Floor Jansen and Simone Simons singing an aria together along with a live Orchestra at Epica's 10th Anniversary concert, although both singers sound fantastic Simone seems to strain a little and has some jaw wobble at times, I think you might find this interesting:
EPICA - Stabat Mater Dolorosa w/Floor Jansen (Retrospect 10th Anniversary DVD I)
For someone who's only had about 1 1/2 years of actual opera training, and who's stated several time that she doesn't like singing in that style all that much, she's pretty good :).
When you're gifted with the ability to naturally learn vocal technique in a way that glues itself to the system, you just need one voice lesson and it'll align itself like it does with her! Really amazing artist that we can all learn from.
Great explanation. I've always said that Floor sings what the song needs, and this shows that to be true.
Yes it is! But she also makes it her own
Thank you for your expertise in this beautiful piece of art, singing by this humble human being Floor Jansen..😉
Yhea her italian is very good And this Is very rare, She Is amazing Always
Goosebums for all time
I was waiting for this! You’re one of the very few channels I follow, but I was waiting for a good, honest, professional comment on this performance of Floor. I have no idea how to look at this with any professional knowledge, I only know that I’m moved emotionally by almost everything that Floor sings. You confirmed my suspicion that she is very able to sing even opera, even without the need to wiggle the jaw😀.
I’m a 61 year old Dutchie from Amsterdam, and I fell in love with Floor since her performance of Phantom of the Opera on Dutch TV, more than a year ago. Would be great to see you react to that as well. Thanks, Louis.
My pleasure, Louis! It really is fascinating as an opera singer and voice teacher to hear someone that does such a great job authentically singing opera! She's really amazing :) glad to have you here!
I also wanna thank you this one from Floor. Can you also react to epica - presto ft yes....Floor Jansen. and
best wishes for 2021
@@BigBrainSinger You can see same mic position , when Tarja Turunen was singing in a church , Ave Maria ... traditional version
Microphones for TV audience are at belly level , few feet away , ruclips.net/video/kEFFp3G3cMc/видео.html 4 min 22 sec
@@frankvandestaak5351 Presto is the instrumental from Vivaldi that Isaac shares with the violinist from the orchestra as far as I know, maybe you meant Stabat Mater Dolorosa?
@@dac2007 yep, this one Retrospect 2015. The metal public is listening.
I love it when you focus my (our) attention to details I would never ever have noticed like the position of the microphone; exactly why I value your comments. Full marks again Charlie :-) !
Ah thanks so much, Bert!
Yes! Floor is amazing! You should also check out Unleash the Archers. The lead singer is named Brittney Hayes, but they call her Brittney Slayes.
She preferred a study on the RockAcedemy. And this performance was in the same year she jumped in to the Nightwish journey
Yes, she did this one in 2012!
Some have said that Floor is the Swiss Army Knife of singing. I would argue that the physical hardware she's blessed with makes her more akin to the T-1000 Terminator in Terminator 2. She's able to shift into nearly any form seemingly effortlessly and absolutely crush whatever song she comes up against.
In car engine terms (probably not the best illustration), many people are 4 cylinders who with lots of training and effort maximize their tools and can pull off a V6 sound quite well. A few people are natural V6's who can with training and effort can work up to V8 power and make singing look much more effortless. Then there are a few world class singers who are naturally gifted with V8 tools and power; I think Floor might be one of those.
@@bryanprell1781 You nailed it. I love using that kind of imagery with my students. She's got an amazing functionality and artistry to use it all... Really fantastic
@@bryanprell1781 Let's be honest then. She's a V12 😉
@@BigBrainSinger A number of things have always struck me about Floor and her vocal skillset(s). Her first love is obviously Rock/Hard Rock/Metal; that's the stuff she goes to when she is free to choose what to sing...but she seems to have a developed enough palate and a natural enough curiosity to seek out and appreciate quality music in other styles. Probably the greatest source of annoyance for me is that she's my age (40), she's been singing professionally for going on 25 years, and outside of the European metal/rock scene, she's (and Nightwish too for that matter) still not all that well-known. Which is why I am truly appreciative for all the people like you who are taking the dive and getting to know them!
@@prchise I'll leave that to the professionals to decide ;) but as others have noted, it doesn't hurt that she has a massive mouth...and huge lungs, and a strong 6 foot frame for support and resonance, etc. Vocally, for a woman, she's freak of nature in the best of ways; built like a tank that just so happens to be naturally wired to still sing crystal clear soprano.
You're right about the jaw wiggle, and your explanation of it being a choice for her is spot on. Of course she can sing with or without, and I think it all comes down to what she is trying to project with her sound. Thankyou for the explanation about it. I don't know why people don't notice all the other times she isn't doing it.
She is untouchable. In any aspect.
This was an exhaustive explanation for me.
I love opera, been there watching/listening many many times,
but never analyzed it, only sat n watched with emotion.
Btw. I can understand Floor, just watch her performance Wacken
and then imagine her in a opera stage. Now I really know why
she is a member of Nightwish. For me Floor is the best ever.
I really like your explanations, that´s why I´m a subscriber.
Thank you so much!
Take care out there BBS!
You should listen to the rendition of “Sabat Mater Dolorosa” from Epica. There she sings together whit her friend Simone Simons.
I was looking fwd to your reaction to this, mate. Floor amazes each time! Another awesome reaction, dude. Keep them coming 😊
Will do!
That look when he pauses at 2:50 is pretty much the same as Thor's "I KNEW it!" when Cap does the thing in Avengers: Endgame.
The original broadcast that this performance is part of is fun to watch because she is first introduced to the audience with a video clip showing a segment of Nightwish playing with full pyros. And when she comes to stage, especially the younger audience members are visibly confused about "is this actually the same person"?
No es lo mejor de Floor técnicamente, se le nota nerviosa. Seguramente hoy lo hace muchísimo mejor, realmente su avance ha sido impresionante.
Awesome sir, wonderful reaction, and though I am not a singer I learned something really neat today again from you. As a metal fan I am however glad she chose not to pursue opera and that she did After Forever, Revamp, and now Nightwish along with Ayreon and other things. We metal fans are all glad for this.
If you are ever in the mood to do some more Ayreon Universe, two of my favorites are "The Druids turn to Stone" with fantastic voice of Damian Wilson; and "The Age of Shadows" with Marco, Hansi, and yes Floor.
Thanks!
Floor is a true metal head, she always knew opera was not really her thing even though she had/has the talent to do it and wanted to learn the techniques.. I mean, how many opera singers do you know with a nose-ring? :P
@@inflatable2 she really is amazing for and there's absolutely nothing wrong with someone pursuing their passion! In fact that's where they do their best work
@@BigBrainSinger Yup, she is a prime example of passion meeting gift.. That's what makes her so great at what she does..
ruclips.net/video/_WlZWVq97XE/видео.html
This TV show was my introduction to Floor over 10 years ago...😁 Great memories
This show was 8 years ago, she just told the host she was singing with Nightwish for only a couple of weeks.
@@bert2673 You are right about this performance, but she had been with Tijl 2 years earlier.
@@michielwillem yes, she then was blond😁
Floor studied classical singing and musical theater at the Dutch conservatory for two years. And you can't use that kind of mic on a rock stage, it would pick up everything around besides the singing.
Glad you mention the jaw wiggle thing. It cracks me up lol so many comments of RUclips "experts" telling us how Floor doesn't sing properly; yes Floor who is pretty much universally admired and respected by other singers for her abilities, skill, and mastery of her craft.
You should react to Tarja singing Ave Maria, Amazing Grace and this song. Ann Wilson of Heart sometimes has her bottom lip moving. Ann is an awesome singer even now at 70 . I admit that she has lost some over the years probably age ,the drugs,and her RED WINE. She has been sober since 2009 and the drugs for about 2000.
hey Big Brain Singer - I can assure you she does not need a mic to sing... I was at one of the early After Forever concerts, back in 2001 and there were technical issues with the microphone, and she still was able to "tower" over the band - such a powerful voice and already at that young age, she sounded absolutely amazing!
Yeah I agree haha
Thanks for the detailed analysis. It makes me laugh how the so-called "knowledgeable" opera fans dump all over this performance. I'm going to keep your analysis handy for the next time I run across one of those pompous twits.
Great, i mentioned this as a tip to hear Floor do opera, and there you go, Great :-)... althought i wasnt the only one i presume. ;-)
I still appreciate it Ron!
Floor had 1 year a combo of Theater - and Opera singin`education.
Not true. If you listen to her first After Forever album you will hear that her untrained voice is basically classical. She then trained at the Rockacademie Tilburg, but she was not happy with her vocal teachers, so she took extra private lessons from a "conservatorium" teacher. In The Netherlands, conservatium is classical all the way. After her graduation from Rockademie, she had some extra training in classical and musical theatre. So she had years of classical training.
Aaahh, you did it. She is Awesome, isn't she. .proof she is a Goddess .. Thank you very much.
Best wishes
Hey Charlie, sorry I missed this live. Nice to see your reaction and explanation here, thanks 🙏🏻
No problem, Pauline! This is actually from a little while ago. I'm behind on uploading, so expect more gems to drop in the next few weeks! Always a pleasure seeing your comments :)
@@BigBrainSinger can you give a heads up when the poet and the pendulum is up for reaction. I would love to be there live.
Do some research beforehand and pay attention to the 3 minutes, it’s a masterpiece.
And best take the one with lyrics. 🙋🏼♀️
A much more epic rendition is the one she did with her friend Simone Simons on the anniversary concert of Simone’s band Epica. These two singers has the ability to sing everything they like. Herewith the link ruclips.net/video/QqdvFPBGN0c/видео.html.
Something to remember Dutch singers are never afraid to get out their comfort zone. You can find a lot of these on RUclips. ENJOY. Listen to “Sancta Terra from the same concert.
One of the best reactions I've seen on this song. I would really like to hear your take on "Wild Card" that she performed with her former band ReVamp at the Bloodstock festival, which is... quite different to this one
Beautiful portamentos
This was recorded 2/3 months after Wacken .Not bad for a metal singer .
I thought this was 2012 not long after she had joined nightwish, almost 10 mnths before Wacken.
@@davidbarrass5210 If you can see the first part of the clip it shows Floor at Wacken .
@@user-VeryoldGeezer nope, definitely recorded 3rd Jan 2013 so 9 mths before wacken. Footage must be taken from South American tour or UK.
Dick8829 She actually already sang this song in 2010 for the same Dutch show 'De tiende van Tijl'. It was actually posted on youtube on 1 september 2010. So I must say I am a bit confused. She did this twice....
ruclips.net/video/v7WhqdWZ5YE/видео.html
That notification, bellisima!
Ah, a photo of Puccini without cigar or cigarette.
Who'da thunk it??? Hahaha he was a partier
Next Shoemaker? From their new album Human Nature
It'll be on RUclips soon!
@@BigBrainSinger The gorgeous vocals at the end of Shoemaker. Eyes got a bit watery!
@@BigBrainSinger SHOEMAKER NOW !!!
What about Amira who won Holland got talent at the age of nine ! She was not forced as she had not singing lessons and taught her self !
Great to see you again Charlie! I was very interested in what you had to say about this performance. I have seen other vocal coaches(?) do reactions and analysis of this performance. They usually feel Floor does a respectable job, but falls a little short in her pure opera technique. This does not really surprise me. Floor has stated herself that she is not a true soprano or a complete opera singer. I myself am only casually knowledgeable regarding opera, but feel she does a wonderful job on this aria. However you are an expert and I respect your opinion unconditionally. Formant? A new musical term. Learning. Peace my friend. ✌👍
Good to hear from you, Thorgrim. So, I agree with everything you said. I clarified in some comment responses that the way she is singing is not on the same level as world star career opera singers, but that's because she didn't spend her time training for it. She does sing with excellent technique that does meet all requirements for good operatic singing, including creating the singer's formant, which is a combination of resonances in the voice that acoustically travel far and "cut" through other sounds of the same volume, like an orchestra or guitar (any acoustic instrument). The "singer's formant" is how I gauge someone's operatic technique because it is what allows the human voice to truly project without artificial amplification. She does it, her diction in Italian is spot on, and her tone is lovely and stylistically appropriate. That checks my boxes for 5 stars in this one. I do see how she doesn't hold up to other world class singers in this repertoire, but as that's not her goal, it's a non-topic for this content in my opinion. She is unique in her own ways by following her artistic goals and fulfilling them amazingly.
@@BigBrainSinger Thank you very much for this detailed explanation. Beautifully stated my expert friend. finally a real expert has something professional to add to the commentary! Peace.
@@BigBrainSinger If this were an audition, would Floor be able to get a job somewhere as a professional opera singer?
Just imagine she sings Barcelona together with Freddy Mercury!!!!
Charlie, nice comment on Floor’s rare classical work and a kind of home match for you.
BTW, you recently did a Twitch comment on her Alone cover, can you put that on YT as well?
It will be on YT eventually :) lots of editing to catch up on.
MINI DOCU TIME !!! Floor Jansen - (English&Finnish Subtitles) Interview and Reportage From Tampere [De Reunie](NPO 1) : ruclips.net/video/B3NIfu0qvtg/видео.html 💕💕💕
The jaw wiggle point is well taken! It was made earlier by Emi Pellegrino in her reaction to Floor Jansen and Henk Poort doing The Phantom of the Opera on the Dutch show "Beste Zangers" (= Best Singers). She made it around 8:23. Don't listen for too long, because it would pollute your inevitable reaction to Floor and Henk performing TPOTO 😎
Oh I've reacted and it's in the queue to be up on RUclips in the near future!
@@BigBrainSinger So excited! 🤗
Let's say from the first sound produced by a baby we develop while using our vocal chords. When that machine, for whatever reason, starts to misfire, it is training that make it possible to circumvent the horrible disappointment of 'not able to communicate'. As I said in a conversation through IG. It took three years to learn how to produce a working sentence without being ashamed of the content of what was said. Just, it still is hard and now after 10 years I need to think which sound to make. Story for another day though.
Something that I have noticed, is that Floor seems to use the jaw wiggle for specific effects. There are a different sounds that she makes with her various vibratos. The jaw wiggle is just one tool in her tool box, and she seems to know exactly how to use it.
I think it's less about the jaw wiggle as an effect as much as the wiggle is the result of maintaining a specific timbre while creating vibrato. I appreciate her ability to stay honest with her operatic technique in that she utilizes true resonance versus fake vibrato.
Thanks for the reaction, Charlie. I have watched others and the only one on par with yours was Charismatic Voice where she gushed about her portamentos. Quick question I have visited your Discord but I am at a loss to know where is the best chat area for someone like me who loves music but has no singing talent? Claudie52 out and take care.
Hey hey! I'd say the #favorite music channel is pretty good for enthusiasts but people chat in all of them :)
I would love to see you react to Jussi Björling singing Till Havs. Some argue that he was one of the greatest tenors ever. It caused quite a stir at the time when he decided to sing this piece of "pop music" (the theme to a movie I believe) and even go on this new device called television and sing it. It's a great live recording of one of the all time greats
He's one of my idols
Floor is the greatest female singer in the world..The best symphonic metal male singer is actor Christopher Lee . He was once asked to be an opera singer rather than an actor .So how about a reaction to one of his metal songs..Rhapsody - The Magic of the Wizard's Dream
Great reaction. Floor is exceptional. A very rare versatile vocal beast. I don't see Christina Aguilera pulling this off. I love her elves ears in this one by the way. Hope that she will do more operatic style pieces on the next Nightwish album. I love her opera voice.
Shoemaker? From the nightwish album Human Nature...
Actually, she does not like that elven look. That is why from her earliest performances on there is always a big fan in front of her so her hair is nicely wind blown😃. That fan was her first fan 🤘
Watch this Afterforever performance on Pinkpop, the moment where she notices the fan is switched off: ruclips.net/video/JuO53UMMElc/видео.html
@@heedoei Way too little. I have the feeling that Tuomas is done with classic vocals, he's using Floor less and less for that.
I'ts one ear onley I think, And Henk Poort has such an ear too.
@@clemenstremens1940 oh! is that why she keeps looking to the side and then points at something.
Thought she was pointing at someone.
Operais invented in 17 century .They did dot have microphones then....That`s why opera is different and superb form of singing..Floor nailed it .
Is there anything she CAN'T sing? (within her range that is) :) She's just amazing!
Did you know that the guy you paused on from about 6:34 is Ton Koopman of the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir?
Very lovely. Makes sense!
@@BigBrainSinger She was not known as an opera singer back then, or at all for that matter. This was a program with classical music for the general audience. Having her and Ton Koopman in the same program indicates that even the cultural elite took her serious back then. And the joy in Koopman's eyes is real. For another example of young Floor singing with a small room microphone there is this performance with the Red Limo Quartet: ruclips.net/video/HYDT750h4L8/видео.html . This is her own After Forever song, now performed as if it is a classical piece.
O mio BAMBINO caro !🤣🤣🤣🤣si dice così !
Lol it's "babbino" like a pet name for dad
I was Floored when I heard this years ago. Never heard of her, living in a parallel music universe. This TV program came to me years after the broadcast as I have no TV since about 1990 - simply because the content is not good enough. And the big black screen is a dead spot in the home, when off, so it had to go. The goal of this TV series was to bring classical music to younger generations.
Floor is Dutch, I am Dutch. Her Italian pronunciation or diction is perfect - sort of - I would want to hear an Italian on that. My guess is they would think she has a Dutch accent. That's harder to figure out in song than in speaking, though.
Have you checked her out singing the song "Energize Me" from her first band After Forever, with RLSQ (Red Limo String Quartet) ?
Very peculiar performance, in that one she doesn't even have a mic, would be interesting to hear your thoughts about it :)
Have not. Can't wait to hear it.
Haha I see that onset thing going soon. People have too good of timing. Thanks for another great video. I didn't catch this on twitch.
oh yes... it's.... ughhhhh hahaha good to see you gzin :)
It's easier taking you seriously when you're not clowning around!
The first vocalist for Nightwish, Tarja Turunen, was much more classically trained than Floor, but since Tarja and Floor have been friends for years, it's not surprising that Tarja taught Floor some of what she knows. Floor also went through much of the same training later as Tarja did.
Parece a canção do ceu
❤
Podrías reaccionar a Tarja cantando ópera por favor?! Gracias!!
it is all good: her singing and your comment too! Can you also react on Amira Willinghagen ? She is incredible !
Supposedly, when she was studying Opera, one of her instructors told her that she wasn't cut out for Opera. Wow. haha.
Hi I think you should checkout her singing this at a Revamp concert. If you want to hear a mature operactic piece react to Shoemaker off the new album. It's about Eugene Shoemaker please read about him on Google first. The one with subs has them talking about what she has been doing. The subs are for the aria
She can do what those opera singers do say 95% - the question is how many of them would have close to her range of capabilities in many different forms of singing, the versatility and flexibility she can bring? I’d say very very few.
Her versatility is definitely what sets her apart from other world class singers. You nailed it.
Same song and another/former Night Wish singer singing it: "TARJA__O MIO BABBINO CARO (Puccini) - Beauty & the Beat - Tarja Turunen & Mike Terrana" (on youtube)
if you wan,t to hear more opera listen to floor jansen energize me uitmarkt 2009
Have you not checked out The Poet and the Pendulum by Nightwish (I recommend with lyrics) on purpose or have you already done it but no recording of it? That's one of my go-to recommendations when it's about Nightwish as a band and Floor.
I believe you also did Warduna didn't you? Did you check out Helvegen bij Wardruna and Aurora? If not, try it!
It's coming up
Please do a reaction to Il volo. They’re very much influenced by opera and their vocals are insane.
I feel like people wouldn't like what I have to say about them.
@@BigBrainSinger wait...is it good or bad? Either way I enjoy your reactions so please consider it 😊
Charlie Every time I've seen Floor perform this it is just her with a piano accompaniment. Is it performed this way in the Opera, or is this just her personal preference? I've seen her sing this twice on TV including this performance and also with Revamp at the female voices in metal concert.
Usually opera is performed with a full orchestra and the voice is un amplified. Of course, recording is the antithesis of that artistic implication.
She also has a "collar" mic.
🤔 Thanks for that!
You're welcome!
Charlie, have you ever heard Eric Adams' Nessun Dorma?
It's probably the best from a singer with no formal training at all.
Just....yessss...
Very interesting. Would love to hear it on stream
Or Jarkko Ahola, he does it really good too
@@BigBrainSinger Album version ruclips.net/video/H6SssLxzg14/видео.html
Fan cam in his 60's ruclips.net/video/ircG7aKAgo8/видео.html. From a guy who did some of the craziest metal screams of the 80's and 90's.
@@carinalundstrom7566 Or Dan Vasc.
as an Italian mother tongue, I can tell you that her Italian is 100% perfect!!!!
One (not so small) detail: I'm italian and supposing she doesn't know how to speak italian, her pronounciation is very clear and perfectly understandable.
Yes I agree! Fantastic diction!
I'm not a musician or knowlegeable in music in anyway but I have a question about that microphone.
I'm wondering if the microphone is here to amplify her voice like we can see in a concert setup or is it in this particular case, just here to record the sound with literaly no amplification purpose?
Hi Zooloo, the purpose of a microphone does differ from situation to situation, and in this case the microphone is being used to record the sound in that particular acoustic space for both recording and amplification. What's interesting is the large distance from her which is only happening because her voice is projecting. The distance also ensures that it will pickup the room noise and acoustic, whereas a dynamic mic close to her mouth would only get vocals for the most part
@@BigBrainSinger got it, all clear now, thanks BBS.
Hi ! ...you must hear and see Floor ...in her cover of the song ADAGIO by Lara Fabian ! ..just out ! ... enjoy !
Soon
Unfortunately I can’t watch your latest video of Ayreon: it’s blocked, at least her in the Netherlands. I saw many reactors react to this song and there was no blockage. Please try to re-upload this if you can, I’m so curious how your reaction to Everybody Dies is. 💕🤘
but is it Ton Koopman on the harpsichord?
Broo i need more bts from youu
Coming soon
@@BigBrainSinger yaaaassss 🤟🏻👏🏻👍🏻😂
Can you react to japanese band called roselia?
as an opera singer and singing coach i would like to ask you something: in the phantom of Floor Jansen and Henk Poort 'i believe you have seen it' henk uses distortion.
that's quite a big no, no.in opera
just wouldn't it be great if an aria agitata were spiced with this every now and then?
I don’t disagree. Maybe in 10-20 years when some of the purists have passed on to the great theatre in the sky, maybe people in the industry will accept it. Albeit, Phantom is NOT opera... it’s musical theatre
@@BigBrainSinger totally agree. and the phantom is a musical,
and with a bit of good will, that could be called the younger sister of operrete.
but certainly not an opera.
not that there is anything wrong with any form of musical theater. That's not the point, but using distortion by henk just got me thinking
what it would sound like if Der Hölle bought Rache in meinem Herzen would sound with some extra spices now and then. although I don't know if that is possible. maybe in the spoken part?
Hey Charlie this is an amazing reaction I really loved it. Can you please react to Nightwish Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean and 7 Days To The Wolves. 🙏🤘😊
is Sara Brightman sitting in the first row?
She was probably using a very sensitive Mic that can pick up her voice from very far away though . Just saying. If not, This does either way seem to prove that her voice can carry even without a mic and carry it through a big hall. I was actually just listening to an actual opera singer whose voice sounded much more powerful and resonant though. That being said she’s done very well for somebody who had only a year of training in classical singing. That probably shows that she took her notes in her studies very very seriously for that year, and she probably still refers to them very often on the regular even now in her life.
Reality check: ANY opera singer (and any music, period) that you hear on a video or a sound recording has been recorded by a mic... There is no other way to get the sound on the tape... So the presence of a mic tells us nothing. The crucial thing is whether the sound in the room itself is amplified or not. And that does not seem to be the case, given that the show where this was recorded is a serious classical music show. They would not use amplification.
Look video where she say tha " im not opera singer"
This is her 3 years earlier singing this piece. A bit faster and powerful. ruclips.net/video/oYzYpQjPOC8/видео.html
In fact she's not the "greatest" student, she had to work real hard to get to the Rockschool. But that was her dream, she was in the first class/year ever of that school btw
Pretty sure that makes her a great student, no? What great student doesn't work hard?
Hey, Floor just dropped another cover, "Adagio" originally by Lara Fabien based on the work by Albinoni/ Giazotto: ruclips.net/video/KZRHLLM6AU4/видео.html
She throws in another vocal technique I don't think I've heard her use before, a kind of vocal fry, but unlike the distortion she has used in other songs.
Added it to the queue for Monday 👍 Thanks for the suggestion! Will be listening for that new type of vocal fry :)
@@BigBrainSinger She uses it twice toward the end of the song as she attacks a note. The first time is subtle, the second time more pronounced. It's a harder edged sound than I've heard her use in the past.
She also has an 11 second hold where she climbs in pitch toward the end of the sustain.
Hi. I thanked you before about explaining Floor’s jaw wiggle and I also commented on the fact that it was a stylistic choice because I have watched her use vibrato with and without jaw wiggle. As I said before, I don’t have a problem with vocal coaches pointing that out. It’s when before they know anything about her background they start making assumptions without proper research and we all know what the first three letters of assuming spell. I’m not defending Floor, God knows she can take care of herself. What I am saying is that before you open your mouth to opine, make sure that you have all your facts checked. And yes she sounds pretty in opera mode 😎. The End.
Good! Glad we agree!
Although, a jaw wiggle wouldn't be a stylistic choice. More of a technical choice to contribute to a type of phonation that would be a stylistic choice.
@@BigBrainSinger I stand corrected 😂
pls react to jungkook doesn’t know autotune
Floor is Puccini.
She has a mic on her dress. Does she not?
She also played the role, she didn't just sing it.
Nice! Where? It’s a pretty good role for soprano. Big numbers at the beginning and end of the opera.
@@BigBrainSinger I meant here, but I used bad language. I mean not only does she sing it quite well here, but she clearly emotes the songs lyrical sensibility. I worked in the opera a few years and recognise how they dramatice the lyrics. I love to hear your take on Freddie Mercurys "exercises in free love". There's a head voice from beyon the skull. Or his Time waits for no one, his most powerful recorded vocal performance. Floor is a Freddie fan after all
I've seen other reactions on youtube from Opera trained singers and coaches about floor singing this. Basically they're impressed but do correct her on some things that she's not quite doing correctly.
Everyone is an expert these days lol
In this same TV series, another singer did some opera: Anneke van Giersbergen - "When I am Laid in Earth" - from Purcell's Dido & Aeneas. Beautifully sung. Her performance has a slight erotic aspect, in conflict with the opera and its moment, so listen with eyes closed.
I had to Google her and check her normal repertoire out. My conclusion was that the opera singer lifestyle will not have been attractive to her and that's a loss on both opera's and her side in the music sense.
Yessss. I mentioned this on another video when you touched on it but this song is so CRINGEY for a 12 year old child to sing for many reasons. I learned it when I was an emo 16 year old and it was a good fit considering that I had a ✨dramatic ✨ crush on a boy. Floor kept this version so light and youthful and really sold it with her expression. Edit: I need to practice 😱
Why the tension in her forehead?
It could be emotive, but forehead tension sometimes relates to extrinsic tension in the vocal tract. Hard to say; but since she is so vocally flexible, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that she is using some tension to manipulate the sound. While that's not idea for someone who is a career opera singer singing 3-4 hour shows every other night, she does a fantastic job technically with this aria, so the forehead tension shows no actual problem. Of course, if she put all of her time practicing and training into a pure operatic technique, that probably wouldn't happen. The point of diminishing returns of that kind of detailed practice for someone of her level and style just wouldn't make eliminating *Every single little piece of tension* worth it. She makes this work really beautifully to the point that only trained singers and vocal experts would be able to notice the slightest tension, and that happens with singers of all levels depending on the day and their level of vocal fatigue. It's like the difference between 100% and 99.5% efficiency. Still an A+ in my book,.
Did you not listen to what the Aria/Opera is about? He explained it at the beginning.
One would assume that the tension being displayed on her forehead is Floor visually acting out the lyrics she is singing. Floor is very visual when she sings, she expresses with body language and facial/eye movements.
@@L3onOfKings I believe that too, she is very expressive and has detailed her situation as a high sensitive person in her vlog. No matter, what an emotive and versatile singer, I do wish she would sing my shopping list.
Floor has said that while she can sing operatically and does so when needed, but it is not her favoured mode of singing.
Charlie has chosen the shortened version of this piece, but thank you anyway for doing it, the full version has a subtitled introduction from the presenter showing Floor in her full-on Nightwish mode which has the shock reaction in the audience as you might imagine, they had no idea what was coming next.
12 year old girls? If only that was the youngest. I've seen much younger kids sing it. 10 years old, even 8 years old. I've read from another vocal coach how bad it is for these children to be encouraged into this way of singing. They said similar things to you and also mentioned a badly shaking jaw and tongue, if memory serves. And I don't mean like the movement we see in Floor's jaw sometimes, I mean really major shaking.
It seems to be a 'thing' these days, to see a little girl on Britain's Got Talent singing this particular song. The younger and tinier she is the better, as far as the show is concerned, or so it seems to me.
If it's something that gets the singer into bad habits that might impact on their singing ability as adults, and given the subject matter, it seems really inappropriate and exploitative.
I really wish you could do a video where you react to one of these really little kids singing it, and point out all the issues - how they are generating the fake vibrato and why that's problematic. I don't think you should, because I wouldn't want to put the child at risk of bullying and ridicule! I just wish it was possible, because it would be really interesting.
It makes me so sad