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@@Quaxly6The lesbian statistic one. It left a bad taste in some people. I get it. But then you have some trying to be racist to them because of it. So a double edged sword
27:50 Jinx gassed Piltover with The Grey, but because it's so much more open up there, The Grey had more air to disperse eventually. So the city still got gas attacked, but people weren't so trapped and the gas wasn't so dense that it was a massively lethal attack. During Ambessa's speech you see her approach a child with bloodshot eyes and a gas mask. He was a victim of the attack.
@@McSireson I feel like there's a certain character designer in fortiche whom is just in love with Viktor's model, cause that kid isn't the first in the Viktor clone collection 🤣
@@prodigous21 The Zaunites do have polluted air but it's not normally the Grey, as that seems to have been contained until Caitlyn started using it strategically in her hunt.
I think the sad thing is she wasn't changing, she was already changed. The moment she decided to gas Zaun, she wasn't the Caitlyn who would give up her gun for a Zaunite or hug a man even the people of the Undercity has turned their backs to.
Clarification yall asked for at the end: Jinx rerouted the gas back to the Piltover with paint/color in it. How I understood what happened, it dispersed quickly due to the open space of Piltover, while in the undercity it had no where to disperse. It was basically a “fuck you” back to Piltover, “You gonna poison us? Okay take it back.”
Jinx really is a Deadpool like genius, isn’t she? I just now realized that Powder isn’t the jinx. It’s Vi. I mean think about. Despite their origins, everyone Vi encounters has had a bad experience with the corruption of the world.
22:50 This is actually a really important point this season, where Zaun always takes the brunt when things go wrong. Hence, Ekko's line: "When it rains, we're the ones that get wet.". And earlier in the season, when Salo is in the room Jinx bombed, it starts raining and he's genuinely surprised to be feeling it. Whenever Piltover messes with something, it's always Zaun that suffers the repercussions.
@@Noah-xd5fh I don't know if you saw the Korean movie Parasites, in one scene it rains and while for the wealthier off it was just a common rain, for the protagonists practically have their entire house flooded.
I think it's not just that Vi saw that people care about Jinx. She didn't want to recreate the trauma of enforcer violence that she and Powder experienced, the only way to prevent that was to get in Caitlyn's way.
Literally, a child was near Jinx's head!! Nobody ever sees that Cait was about to shoot a child! They immediately blame Vi because ye, Vi said take the shot *when you have it*! Cait had a head shot but missed and shot a finger! The next one was a child involved!! Cait didn't have the shot, she's barely stable, Cait is a great shot but she's not thinking straight and is on a war path! We should not be blaming Vi fully for that whole situation when Cait "Don't launch a full invasion because innocents will be hurt" was willing to take the shot while an innocent was there and near the head of the person she's trying to shoot! I don't get why nobody sees that! Cait is being a hypocrite!
not even that,if that was the case,her mother wouldnt have a gold coffin adn statue,she would have to toss the body on the river as jinx did with silco or to let the body were it was as vi did with vander lmao
@stinker8 The gas allowed them to move through the underground without harming anyone as opposed to a full scale invasion which would've caused a lot of casualties.
the thing that drives me sooo crazy about the jinx/isha/cait/vi confrontation is that for vi, it was a lose-lose situation. either caitlyn misses & accidentally hits isha (child witnesses enforcer violence), or caitlyn kills jinx in front of a child who cares for her (child STILL witnesses enforcer violence). Either situation parallels vi’s own past trauma. In that moment, it wasnt about jinx (at least not entirely). It was about vi’s catalyst for violent change about to be recreated and forced upon this child. Caitlyn said she understood how vi felt seeing her parents die, but demonstrated in this moment that she doesnt and literally CANT. caitlyn has never been on the other side or enforcer violence. the child didnt even compute to her-isha was just an obstacle to be avoided, not a person that will carry this experience forever. But vi’s been on the wrong end of a gun. She understood that no matter what, no matter who got hit, if she allowed caitlyn to shoot, vi would be recreating her own trauma. And THATS why she stopped cait" To quote a post from tumblr a youtuber commented.
25:50 Another interpretation I saw on twitter was that Caitlyn shooting Jinx's finger off instead of her head and the 3rd shot where even though Caitlyn's scope meets Jinx's head the bullet hit's vi's gauntlet instead even though vi stopped moving when the bullet was shot indicates that Caitlyn was missing. Caitlyn was so focused on revenge and getting to jinx she wasn't taking the time to properly calm herself while aiming after the first shot.
Pretty sure that narratively, if Caitlyn is focused on protecting people she will always hit her target. It's when she's overcome with her need for revenge that she starts missing. "What are you shooting for?"
@@kira0080 I guest we'll never know. She literally shoot a fucking finger out out of jinx hand to save Vi. I think Vì just not ready to let Jinx killed.
15:48 yes she did? She had multiple times she coulda taken the shot. And the fact that she can blow off just one finger like that she most definitely done it accurately.
@@XDrakarXx she moves her head for a literal millisecond my guy, let's be real for a minute she's not hitting that shot, we literally see VI jumping front of them as soon as her head is lifted up for that millisecond.
Dam if only there was someone nearby who has been shown to be extremely strong could have easily gotten the child off jinx Vi made a choice weather it was right or wrong we will have to see but she made the choice when there were other choices
You all forgot something, Caithlyn already missed when she cut jinx's finger off insted of taking a head shot, also the little girl head was in right in the middle.
18:15 the thing about Cate is that she is a highly privileged person with significant wealth and support. In the first season, she was the only one in Piltover who attempted to protect Zaun-and that was only because of Vi. Cate knew what was happening in Zaun and even advocated for it before the Council. However, when she directly experienced the tragedy of losing something important, she went unhinged. She received a large funeral, a costly coffin-likely worth more money than Vi ever saw-and a grand statue and memorial, with support and understanding from the community, while Jinx buried her parent in the water, alone. Vi, who had witnessed enforcers kill her parents, was tortured in prison, and saw people align themselves with Silco, worked to broaden her perspective for Caitlin. But Caitlin never tried, and couldn’t manage, to do the same after going through what Zaun faces daily. To me, this highlights how money and privilege can affect someone who seeks revenge. She abused vents, gassed people, and was ready to kill a child.
Really love the detail in the VI vs Jinx fight that while Vi, Sevika and Cait were HORRIFIED and HURT by the chaos energy of the Hexcore and magic, Jinx THRIVED in it. She's someone who understands chaos on a fundamental level, and uses that to her advantage. Like tossing her signature weapon in the air, jumping to catch it, THEN firing. She is very much a "chaos is a pit" type. But she doesn't see the chaos as never ending darkness thrown upon the world. She sees chaos as clarity.
@@DarkChaos1986 She then got up like it didn’t happen, and proceeds to throw hands against someone still using giant heavy paperweights, and was holding her own bareknuckle. After the Shimmer boost, Jinx is a _bit_ of a freak of nature.
In episode 2, Smeech says that the Grey is just factory smog that's trapped underground. We learn from the Kiramann tapes that the rise of industry in the fissures increased air toxicity, aka factory smog, and during her time in the council, she had architects create a ventilation system that would keep the toxic air away from the rest of the undercity residents. However, all it did was trap the smog underground like Smeech said. They didn't fix the problem, they just put a big bandage over it. Jinx rerouted the vents to cause the Grey to blow up towards Piltover instead of stay underground, but the factories in the fissures still exist. As long as the vents remain rerouted, years of that smog is now polluting the air in Piltover. I think Jinx's critique of the "Janna bedtime stories" was that their breathable air wasn't due to some wind goddess saving them, but because the factory smog was still there and just being hidden away by Piltover, ready to be weaponized against Zaun at any time.
the pacing is awkward tho. theyre running thru plot points at break neck speed, especially Viktor's arc from dead to alive to leaving to becoming Jesus lol. the characters and viewers aren't given room to breathe. But yeah, other than that it's not all horrible still a great show.
@nabihat.1426 The pacing is perfect. The momentum and tension that is necessary for the stakes is there at all times. But to each their own. House of the dragon should have taken notes. And Viktor never died, he was injured and was already connected to both shimmer and hex tech, that was literally his story in season 1 lol.
18:11 "Don't see any issue"? I'm sorry, how did y'all forget there was a CHILD RIGHT NEXT TO HER HEAD!? There was too high a chance of Caitlyn blowing Isha's head off too for her to take the shot. She let her anger and grief cloud her judgement and started acting like Jinx. Yes, Vi could've just pulled the kid off, but she probably didn't want to send her down the same path as Powder. Or maybe someone caring about Jinx sparked some new hope, but however you want to spin it, there's still some fault and rash behavior on Caitlyn’s part.
@@icedcoffee-lf2nk and if that child watches someone they look up to get their brains blown out and becomes another Jinx, how many more people will die? Vi is fighting for what is right, Cait is fighting for revenge, that is the difference here.
@@creationfied And then the kid will watch somebody she viewed as a protecter be killed right in front of her eyes. They'd be teaching her the only way to meet them is with violence, becuase they'll take the shot if she doesn't first. They'd be continuing the cycle while trying to put an end to it.
@@lunarr00 you got it backwards there pal, kid trying to use it's own body as a meat shield to a fucking terrorist, yeah u shoot through it, the kid knows exactly what it is doing, it isn't a random kid getting picked on the street or being blow off on accident
3 reasons Caitlin could miss: she's disoriented, all the Hextech glitching including her gun, and she clearly shot Jinx's finger off when aiming to kill her. And with the Grey, it seems to be due to Zaun being a mining town and only the Kieraman's attempted to help by creating those value shutoffs to help the Under city. Now it's being weaponized by Caitlin. So, Jinx decided to send it back to Piltover with the colorful display. Give them a taste of their own medicine. And Ambessa pointed out the effects with her closing speech, showing the child with an air mask and red eye.
also that in the montage of caits squad using the gas we see a lot of innocent people,people unarmed,without gang tattos or anything,and some that look really young runnig away from the was like wtf cait,sadly at the same time her mom says they deserve to breath we see cait harming the innocent with that chemical warfare
For real, they were saying "oh you wanna attack us, we'll just poison the air that we fixed" as if they weren't the people who poisoned it in the first place.
also!! cait would’ve 100% missed the shot bc she was 1. disoriented from the fight w sevika 2. the rifle kept glitching 3. she tried to shot jinx at first but missed and got her finger… plus isha was hugging jinx too tight while she was trashing around, the hex bullet would’ve pierced right through jinx and would’ve hit the kid too. cait wasn’t thinking clearly and now ambessa is going to use her and take advantage of her vulnerability rooting for police brutality AND ambessa is crazy..
An insight that some fans seem to overlook regarding Cait's advance v. Jinx is the whole moral imbalance behind her shot. I've been seeing a lot of casuals go "she wouldn't have missed." That's not the point. I think even Vi never doubted for a second that Caitlyn could ever miss that-point blank, rather that if she did off her, it would forever scar Isha and that's why Vi kept wanting to stop Cait. Sure, she wouldn't have missed and killed the primary subject of her objective. But at the cost of shrouding the very moral high ground her late mother stood for and has now posthumously passed on to her, to which we do see being a factor to her being manipulated by Ambessa.
Yeah and that's why Vi should've said that instead of "you could have missed". Then Cait wouldn't have thought Vi switched sides,been alone later which made her open to Ambessas manipulation since her main idol figure she could look up to got murdered by Jinx :) So again... Jinx caused all the harm that came after and people are like "poor girl..." =_=
@@jos-josradvanji6203 Jinx _seemed to_ not bank on surviving the encounter. Definitely wasn’t counting on Isha making herself collateral damage, and despite having a bomb set, wasn’t intending to use it (yet?). And Caitlyn was the one who plugged that battery in Jinx’s back; wouldn’t have gotten that smoke to vent without her sending it to them.
I dont blame Vi for stopping at the end there, when that kid came out it probably gave her a huge flashback to how they were when they were kids. This child was willing to die for Jinx and she saw that, on top of the fact that Jinx was completely resigned to dieing there and probably wanted to for a long time.
Somebody said that killing jinx there would have created another jinx in the child, so the cycle of violence would never end and I believe that, vi made the good move.
Ignoring Isha isnt a genius with a leading mob boss parent figure if Jinx dies, how does not killing/imprisoning her close the CURRENT cycle of violence? Even My Little Pony and Care Bears arent as vainly optimistic to pretend a world shifting serial killer can be tempered with a talk. especially when VI did everything wrong during the finale last season.
@@raec5426 yeah vi hesitated at first while jinx was talking to her but if you rewatch, isha rushed them BECAUSE vi was about to punch her out. as soon as jinx said “it had to be you”, vi drew that fist back.
Season 2, so far, has continued the excellence of season 1. The animation, plot points, dialogue, characters and action all just work perfectly. Between this and The Penguin, episodic tv has really hit a high note! Also, If Zaun & Piltover story is this captivating I can't imagine how the other parts of the Runeterra will be like.
The show establishes a few times that bullets fired from the Hextech rifle can punch clean through most things. When Cait was trying to take the shot, the kid was still either covering Jinx, or had her head on the opposite side of Jinx's head from Cait's vantage point. Even if she successfully fired a round into Jinx, it would have passed through and killed the kid too. Cait wasn't thinking.
@praisethefirstborn6226 it was suppose to be 5 season, but they say it would be too expensive. That why they change it to 2 season instead. It still cost 250 m tho
17:49 that statistic of lesbian women experiencing domestic violence INCLUDES their relationships with men, not just women. The majority of the perpetrators of domestic violence were men. This statistic is often used in a misleading way, most of the time by homophobes.
17:55 This statistic is used in a misleading way, especially by homophobes. People love leaving out the part on the survey talking about the majority of the perpetrators of the domestic violence being men.
That cdc study it showed lesbians had high rates of abuse but most of that abuse was in their prior heterosexual relationships - so not at the hands of women.
Its like people saying Oct 7 Oct 7 ignoring nearly a century of constant humiliation and oppression, then using an outburst incident to go even further
At least Cait only wants the one gone that harmed her. Meanwhile Jinx killed Vis family, Caits shooting teacher AND Caits mom despite none of them having done ANYTHING to her. But hey.. for Jinx we can always excuse everything with "well she was a kid, well it was an accident, well she isn't in her right mind today"
@@jos-josradvanji6203the problem is that caitlyn was harming people who were not jinx just to get to her, and also i'm pretty sure cait's teacher was killed by silco's guy jacked up on shimmer, and usually insanity pleas are allowed in real world so make of that what you will. not even gonna address the child comment because i don't think anyone unironically arguing she deserved to be punished for what she did then (and she was anyway) is serious
17:55 This research was not reliable at all though, as only 1.3% of the women who participated in that survey were lesbian (as literally stated in the research itself). There’s also so much more in the research itself that shows that lesbians, in fact, do not have the highest domestic violence rate. A youtuber by the name Katherine Sloan has made a video analysing the research and discussing every misconception. Sorry, as a lesbian I am just so sick of keep having to hear this argument when it’s not even true.
@@wrathofthelamb318 if a strange editing choice ruins the channel for your then you weren’t much of a fan it was weird joke not a damn declaration of war chill out
@@81droid81 Because this research gets brought up by homophobes ALL the time in order to justify their hatred towards lesbians. This (false) statistic pretty much never gets brought up with non-malicious intent, so I don’t blame fellow lesbians watching this for not seeing it as a joke, we’re just very tired of it. (Not trying to attack you btw, just explaining. Hope it makes sense!) Edit: Apparently it’s not even a joke, the editor genuinely believes that these statistics are real and valid.
No way this grown privileged woman/cop is out here taking her recently dead mom’s vent design to help a suffering city just to GAS them with toxic air bc she experienced one ounce of the suffering and brutality her ppl inflicted on a marginalized community for decades😭all to flush out one person that is a direct result of piltover’s bs
Couldn't have worded it better😂. I understand her circumstances because it was her mom, but I just can't seem to care for any of the piltover people lol.
LITERALLYY like their reaction to what Cait was doing made me think of this one creator I saw that addressed it and that basically said “I find it frustrating the conversation has become centered around justification bc there is no justification for committing a crime the very person you are attempting to avenge was opposed to. The logic that propels this mindset, the realization that even the people that sympathize w the marginalized may not perceive them as people, is gripping. It’s smth that forces the audience to confront the question, do you truly sympathize with the marginalized or is your empathy contingent on their willingness to accept their abuse? Do you have the ability to see the nuance in the people and groups that have potentially harmed you or do you condemn them all under the same label?”
27:40 I think jinx was genuinely planning on dying and the colorful vented out air was supposed to be "fireworks" and for the topside to be like "yay jinx is dead" but because she's jinx none of her plans ever work out so she lived 😂😂
25:50 The point isn’t that Caitlyn’s not a good shot She is, but only when she’s calm under pressure. They showed it in season 1. She almost lost at the shooting range because. She needs to settle. Her mind is a mess. In that fight alone, she had a clear shot of jinx, missed and got her finger Another shot at jinx, missed and got VI’s gauntlet She wasn’t in the right state of mind, that shot had red flags all over it
The other option was Ambessas invasion which would have KILLED a ton of people. Cait actually took the less lethal option and only to get people to move away so they don't get into the crossfire.
There's a difference between a tactical team using grey in very specific locations for military purposes and just sending ALL the gas on civilians. I'm not saying using biochemical weapons is okay but at least they used it on actual mafia type villains.
Mel from S1 E8: "She should have a kind, fat face. Clever, to charm her subjects - but pliable so we can mold her". Sounds an awful lot like Caitlyn right about now.
One thing I noticed is how Sheera was seemingly okay with Zaun being poisioned by the Gray and cracking jokes, but the moment it gets sent to Piltover it's a problem deserving worry. Just an observation.
@@KXdareK they already didn't like jinx, and in general they like genocidal characters. Also the top siders are rich, with more resources, are privileged and live nicely soo yep😂
17:55 - this is a misleading statistic and has no place being thrown into a reaction video as a fun fact. Kind of fucked up to put that in there when you aren't going to explore and break down where the numbers are coming from and how the study was conducted. That shit needs to be off the vid
@@Robin503 they should take it seriously. Dude, stuff like this damages the community. Homophobes see this and go "OMG, I CAN USE THIS IN ARGUMENTS MUAHAHAHA", be fr my dude
@@infamousshinkicker6924 He put it in there as a satire joke for the unfolding scene.. I personally don't take what the editor adds seriously considering his track record on this channel. But i guess he should have made it more obvious to the viewers to not take the report as factual.
@@infamousshinkicker6924if you don't like it then cry about it you people are beyond sensitive it's annoying you don't like the joke to bad 😐😐 if that statistic applies to you then welp if not then why care enjoy the reaction or get off.
i would like also to add context for 18:01 third of lesbian women who have experienced such incidents have had male perpetrators ,so when are two women in a relationship, there are more people who have experienced sexual violence than when there is just one woman in a relationship, alot of lesbian dated men before
18:00 the thing about that survey is that it's not about lesbians's prsent relationships but was about women's previous partners (mostly men). meaning women who have been with men before getting into relationships with women have faced abuse. and since you know in a lesbian relationship there are two women the percentage of previous abuse by men is gonna show the double.
The song during the fight is an ancient shuriman prayer to the wind goddess Janna. Janna used to guide ships across the seas safely, but as time went on people forgot about her. Then they began praying to her again when the Grey was rampant. They prayed to her for fresh air.
I really don't know why Vi agreed to gas her people, but I hope Jinx or Ekko speaks up about it. Zaun also has a huge homeless population so people definitely died from this.
Also the grey poping up in places seems to be a natural disaster(though it definitely wasnt natural in this case) in zaun so any one who lives in zaun should already know to run.
The grey is a dense gas made from the pollution of the underground factories, there, deep in the fissures the gas doesn't have where to go so it accumulates but when Jinx vented the gas to the topside the gas dispersed naturally, some people got affected but it wasn't for long. But that wasn't the solution to the pollution problem because the gas is still being produced, Jinx used the gas more as a message to start conflict with topside.
hi guys I love your reactions and I've been following your channel for so long now I really enjoy your content! Idk who is your editor but I felt like I had to add a thought regarding the rather misleading statistic they shared on *that* scene of cait hitting vi. The study in question included lesbian women who previously had a relationship with a man (before coming out) which really alters the actual statistic since the very same study showed almost/or more than 90% of straight and bi women were or had faced violence by their *male* partners . Now before some idiot comes yapping and assuring I'm trying to defend caitlyn's actions; I'm not, but I don't think is the best course to share information that is not completely factual and that could be rather harmful on the portrayal and generalization of lesbians.
dont think anyone would be using it for the generalization of lesbians here . i have not seen nobody coment about it apart from the ones that are criticezing it
Man the people that have beef with Ambessa, played her. She says herself "You're have no idea how much family matters to me" and shortly after that Mel got snatched.
Edit: Apparently they already watched the Ambessa music video on the rewatch season 1 stream This was in a comment under Roshi's but you guys should really watch the Ambessa music video called "Blood Sweat & Tears" by Sheryl Lee Ralph. It's so good and give a tiny bit of insight into her origins. PS. We should upvote this to they see it
In the game Caitlin's ultimate move cannot be dodged or miss, but it CAN hit a person its not intended for if they hop in the way of the shot as it travels to its intended target. And it stops at the first person it hits. So good supports will position themselves between the target and the shot. So that lil kid playing Jinx's support in the show is doing an excellent job, technically. Thats the exact thing a pro player would have done in high level play is try to bodyblock a Caity ult for their ADC (Attack/Damage/Carry) Jinx by hopping in between the two.
The gun has been glitching out and even when it stopped Cait missed her first shot and hit her hand. Despite having a clean line of sight to her head. Plus, she didn't give a damn about the kid. She would've felt bad after, but in the moment it was obvious that she didn't care
The statistic about domestic violence seems kinda weird to put there especially since it says Partner. not only have many lesbians had multiple male relationships before realising or being strong enough to come out and date a woman. the usage of this data is often used in a fucked up way to say that all lesbian relations are abusive. that's false. it merely shows that a lot of queer women have been a victim of abuse whether that's at the hand of a man, a woman, or anyone else in a couple.
@blueblazedemon It may seem not serious to you but many people do believe that false stat and it causes alot of harm towards queer women. With the audience they have perpetuating that kind of thing only makes it worse.
So are we gonna talk about how KKKaitlyn domestic violenced Vi after Vi went "Excuse me, Police Brutalitlyn, i can't let you _HaVe thE ShOt_ when there's children on the line of fire" and Radicalizedlyn went "i tought you where one of them good ones" 😭🤣 (I know Caitlyn is grieving and has trauma, great character writting btw and she _is_ one of THE league of legends marksman, but there's no way taking that shot with the risk of hitting the child literally hugging the target is ethical or expected of a cop, specially with her gun literally phasing in and out of existence 10 seconds ago)
that's why i don't get people who was so sure of cait for trying the shot, because just like you said the guns and weapons were glitching, she couldn't even make the shot the first time just getting jinx finger, what more that there's a collateral
Saying it again in hopes this will be seen. The lesbian dv statistics are misinterpreted and often times used to spread harmful narratives about lesbians being violent. Most lesbians have experienced abuse during prior heterosexual relationships. So mostly not at the hand of other women. I really hope you address this :/.
@@StrawSundew It did imply a narrative, by being compared (incorrectly) to the stat on DV for straight women. If it was a joke- 1) it wasn't funny, 2) it didn't require the comparison.
@@vadalia3860humor is subjective, that’s not an opinion it’s a fact. And the fact u can’t figure that out already means u not grown enough for this convo
25:17 Heimerdinger suddenly understands the nature of arcane, its not something you can stablize and control over the years of studying, It's equivalent exchange.
Same as Jinx fans who justify her every mass murdering act with every excuse they can find, from "just a child" to "it was an accident" all the way to "but she's mentally fucked up so u can't put that on her"
Just an FYI for that stat about lesbian women experiencing DV- if you read the report, 1/3 of that number is DV committed by men. Just because someone identifies as a lesbian doesn't mean they've never been involved romantically with a man. The highest reporting of DV was among bisexual women (over half), 90% of which was committed by men. It's important not to make assumptions when reviewing data that can lead to incorrect conclusions.
@@Robin503 The questions "what is your sexual orientation?", "have you ever experienced violence at the hands of an intimate partner?", and "what was the gender of the intimate partner who used violence against you?" are all separate questions & rightfully so. My grandmother considered herself a lesbian for most of her life but still married & had 7 kids with (and was abused by) my grandfather before she knew enough about herself to know she was gay. Why wouldn't it be relevant to the report that she's both a lesbian and has been abused by a male intimate partner?
@@wrathofthelamb318 Yeah, it'd be one thing if it just pointed out that domestic violence can occur between two women (since there's probably some (hopefully small) portion of the people watching who think women can't be abusers) but the way it was contrasted with the numbers for straight women (and conveniently leaving out the stats for bi women even though they're the most likely to experience abuse) is the kind of attempted "gotcha" I normally only see from homophobes & incels. Shame on whoever decided to include it in that specific way.
“To Ashes And Blood” by Woodkid has been stuck in a loop in my head since I saw this episode, and I freaking love it. It sounds like the perfect entrance music if you were a UFC fighter or a WWE wrestler.
That cdc study it showed lesbians had high rates of abuse but most of that abuse was in their prior heterosexual relationships - so not at the hands of women.
The statistic you guys cited about lesbian intimate partner violence is a common myth used to further right-wing reactionary attitudes about lesbian women. The reason lesbians report at higher rates to have been abused at some point by an intimate partner is because many of those lesbians were in relationships with MEN before coming out, and likely *due* to coming out as lesbian were assaulted by their male partners. There is no factual basis to the claim that suggests that lesbian women abuse their partners at higher rates than straight women do.
27:30 Just to answer your question, yes, she did get rid of the Grey. Probably the "color attack", so I call it, was part of a plan that meant to actually set chaos in Piltover. I don't know why, to be honest. Probably Sevika actioned the bomb too soon. That's why Powder tried to stop her verbally. Hope I was useful, love your videos! 👍 Have a good day! 😊
Peps talking about wether Cait could have made the shot or not, when Vi's point was it was morally wrong to even risk that with a child involved, ie Cait had already broken her promise when she shot at Isha.
You're right Caitlyn wouldn't miss (even though she just missed twice) Caitlyn would have killed the kid, it was showed that Caitlyns gun pierces everything, even the metal bowl Vi uses as cover from Jinx's gun. So Caitlyn would have killed both Jinx and the child.
nah bro the kid was on top of her and her head was right next to jinx's. Had she taken the shot, the kid would have gotten clapped. plus I feel sorry for Vi after that intimate moment with cait promising her she wouldn't change
I feel bad for both. Vi couldn't have worded that any worse,making it seem like no matter what she'll always side with Jinx who is responsible for a ton of deaths including a bunch of personal ones. Meanwhile Vi just wanted to avoid recreating another serial killer with the small one but instead of saying that says "you could've missed". =_= Like...just say "the cycle continues because the small one will be the next jinx" and Cait would've probs gotten the memo. But nah. Saying "you could have missed" right after trusting her and saying "take the shot" that's....yeah. Good fuck up Vi xD
Bro Cait would have 100% shot that kid 😭 she was fueled by nothing but vengeance and hatred. Sure Vi told her to take the shot, but not at the expense of an innocent life, I’m sure that was a given.
Not you guys putting in a false abuse stat for lesbians that includes abuse from men, that, if removed, would put the percentage of abuse well below that of straight women.
@@infamousshinkicker6924 Wondering if they even bother to check the comments because their editor is also doubling down and being a piece of garbage there as well.
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Hey everyone! It was brought to my attention that there was a hurtful and unnecessary edit in the reaction. Im gonna take responsibility here because I should have vetted the edits which I did not before pushing it live. If you have been watching us all these years you know our hearts and know we mean no harm to anyone. I promise we'll do better going forward. Love you all and as always thanks for watching!
Shouldn't have apologized because now you have people trying to be racist to you guys.
I thought I was tripping when the edit wasn't there anymore lol
@@Quaxly6The lesbian statistic one. It left a bad taste in some people. I get it.
But then you have some trying to be racist to them because of it. So a double edged sword
Big for the apology. Much love. ❤
@@phantaminum6133 Have the racist comments been deleted because I can't see any?
I like how Not- Vander was the only one to walk away at the end. Bro knew exactly how this was gonna end.
smartest character in the show
and he did not need to speak a word
@@aidanleffler4897 dont even know bro's name yet
@@JINX1441 acshualy his name is loris,revealed from the game team fight tactics
Temu Vander did not fuck with it
27:50
Jinx gassed Piltover with The Grey, but because it's so much more open up there, The Grey had more air to disperse eventually. So the city still got gas attacked, but people weren't so trapped and the gas wasn't so dense that it was a massively lethal attack. During Ambessa's speech you see her approach a child with bloodshot eyes and a gas mask. He was a victim of the attack.
Is it just me or did that child look ALOT like young Viktor?
@@McSireson I feel like there's a certain character designer in fortiche whom is just in love with Viktor's model,
cause that kid isn't the first in the Viktor clone collection 🤣
@@xXTheRedrubyXx maybe papa viktor was a ladys man and that were all the goodlooking viktor clones come from lmao
Yup and that was literally just a taste of what zaunites have to go through daily and had to deal with The Grey
@@prodigous21 The Zaunites do have polluted air but it's not normally the Grey, as that seems to have been contained until Caitlyn started using it strategically in her hunt.
Caitlyn: nah i'm not changing trust me
Also caitlyn 20 minutes after: oh there's a kid with jinx now? Double kill
I think the sad thing is she wasn't changing, she was already changed. The moment she decided to gas Zaun, she wasn't the Caitlyn who would give up her gun for a Zaunite or hug a man even the people of the Undercity has turned their backs to.
"headshot"
Achievement Unlocked: Two Birds with One Stone
@@crimsoneclipse0618 facts, just look to Vi's face when she holds the gun
@@KXdareK to be fair, she never said she wouldn't change. Vi asked her to promise not to change, she didn't say she promised, she said "I won't".
Clarification yall asked for at the end: Jinx rerouted the gas back to the Piltover with paint/color in it. How I understood what happened, it dispersed quickly due to the open space of Piltover, while in the undercity it had no where to disperse. It was basically a “fuck you” back to Piltover, “You gonna poison us? Okay take it back.”
Jinx really is a Deadpool like genius, isn’t she?
I just now realized that Powder isn’t the jinx. It’s Vi. I mean think about. Despite their origins, everyone Vi encounters has had a bad experience with the corruption of the world.
@@Otisboy121 Shared blood. It’s still both of them.
@@alecLogan Still stings.
22:50 This is actually a really important point this season, where Zaun always takes the brunt when things go wrong. Hence, Ekko's line: "When it rains, we're the ones that get wet.". And earlier in the season, when Salo is in the room Jinx bombed, it starts raining and he's genuinely surprised to be feeling it. Whenever Piltover messes with something, it's always Zaun that suffers the repercussions.
I don't understand the more literal part of the scene. Why is he surprised to feel rain? Does it not usually fall over Piltover?
@@Noah-xd5fh I don't know if you saw the Korean movie Parasites, in one scene it rains and while for the wealthier off it was just a common rain, for the protagonists practically have their entire house flooded.
@Noah-xd5fh he always had a roof under his head, now he doesnt have that protection.
I think it's not just that Vi saw that people care about Jinx. She didn't want to recreate the trauma of enforcer violence that she and Powder experienced, the only way to prevent that was to get in Caitlyn's way.
Literally, a child was near Jinx's head!! Nobody ever sees that Cait was about to shoot a child! They immediately blame Vi because ye, Vi said take the shot *when you have it*! Cait had a head shot but missed and shot a finger! The next one was a child involved!! Cait didn't have the shot, she's barely stable, Cait is a great shot but she's not thinking straight and is on a war path! We should not be blaming Vi fully for that whole situation when Cait "Don't launch a full invasion because innocents will be hurt" was willing to take the shot while an innocent was there and near the head of the person she's trying to shoot! I don't get why nobody sees that! Cait is being a hypocrite!
@@bluewolf6323 I didn't watch it yet, but do they actually start blaming Vi?
@@jacobpainter1962 They see cait's point but don't outright say Vi shouldn't have done that.
@@bluewolf6323not even a shot from a normal gun, those shots leave a giant hole wherever they hit.
@@Duragged Ok good. Cause I thought they've been ok with the kid getting shot lol
Crazy how jinx is gaining sanity and Caitlyn’s losing it 💀
well… I mean, when you say it like that-
@@animation8youroreo Jinx is at least peaceful about her fate, Cait is not having a good time
Jinx is very tired
She got turned into a ultra racist because her mom got put in a cod kill Montage I would start tweaking as well ngl
She picked a lane and is now (slowly) flourishing in it. Meanwhile Cait can't decide and is absolutely making a mess.
Cait lived through the average Zaunist experience and went insane LMAOO
Big Facts. Her ppl been merkin families for YEARS
Her own mom said that the people in Zaun deserved to breathe and then she goes and gasses them 😭😭
not even that,if that was the case,her mother wouldnt have a gold coffin adn statue,she would have to toss the body on the river as jinx did with silco or to let the body were it was as vi did with vander lmao
@stinker8 The gas allowed them to move through the underground without harming anyone as opposed to a full scale invasion which would've caused a lot of casualties.
Not really the same experience lol
Cassandra: The people of the underground deserve to breathe
Caitlyn: Are you sure about that?
Jinx: reverse card
@@BigJT246 Piltover having natural ventilation: Sike
the thing that drives me sooo crazy about the jinx/isha/cait/vi confrontation is that for vi, it was a lose-lose situation. either caitlyn misses & accidentally hits isha (child witnesses enforcer violence), or caitlyn kills jinx in front of a child who cares for her (child STILL witnesses enforcer violence). Either situation parallels vi’s own past trauma. In that moment, it wasnt about jinx (at least not entirely). It was about vi’s catalyst for violent change about to be recreated and forced upon this child. Caitlyn said she understood how vi felt seeing her parents die, but demonstrated in this moment that she doesnt and literally CANT. caitlyn has never been on the other side or enforcer violence. the child didnt even compute to her-isha was just an obstacle to be avoided, not a person that will carry this experience forever. But vi’s been on the wrong end of a gun. She understood that no matter what, no matter who got hit, if she allowed caitlyn to shoot, vi would be recreating her own trauma. And THATS why she stopped cait" To quote a post from tumblr a youtuber commented.
PERIODDDDDD
Yup! Cait is so privileged that she will never see what her and her people do is horrid
They killed her mom 🤷@@BratVixen
Ambressa playing game of thrones
I need that crossover
She's roleplaying the united states of america funding both sides of a civil war (that they caused) again
@@Psub950If we get a series about Noxus next we won't need a crossover
25:50 Another interpretation I saw on twitter was that Caitlyn shooting Jinx's finger off instead of her head and the 3rd shot where even though Caitlyn's scope meets Jinx's head the bullet hit's vi's gauntlet instead even though vi stopped moving when the bullet was shot indicates that Caitlyn was missing. Caitlyn was so focused on revenge and getting to jinx she wasn't taking the time to properly calm herself while aiming after the first shot.
I mean she was kinda stumbling in that specific moment because she just got choked out by Sevika. lol
@@raec5426Twitter freaks were literally saying she did that finger shot on purpose and could've killed Jinx without hitting the kid 😂
@@XiaoyuuuYT That specific shot was literally after she was just choked out, but she was fine to shoot the gun out of the kid's hand after.
Pretty sure that narratively, if Caitlyn is focused on protecting people she will always hit her target. It's when she's overcome with her need for revenge that she starts missing. "What are you shooting for?"
Cait didnt have the shot. The kids head was literally blocking jinx's. Cait was most likely going to shoot through both of them.
@@kira0080 I guest we'll never know. She literally shoot a fucking finger out out of jinx hand to save Vi. I think Vì just not ready to let Jinx killed.
15:48 yes she did? She had multiple times she coulda taken the shot. And the fact that she can blow off just one finger like that she most definitely done it accurately.
@@XDrakarXxwe literally see in this clip the child is neck to neck with jinx in they BOTH would've gotten clapped 😭
Even better?
@@XDrakarXx she moves her head for a literal millisecond my guy, let's be real for a minute she's not hitting that shot, we literally see VI jumping front of them as soon as her head is lifted up for that millisecond.
Bro, if Cait took that shot, it would have blown through both of their heads. The girl is literally hugging her neck by neck.
Yeah, just before shooting Cait blew off Jinx's finger, her aim was not at its best.
Cait driven by vengeance being a shooter rage will cause you to miss
Dam if only there was someone nearby who has been shown to be extremely strong could have easily gotten the child off jinx
Vi made a choice weather it was right or wrong we will have to see but she made the choice when there were other choices
Actually she wouldn’t when Vi is saying she’s a child you can clearly see jinx head in the lense
She literally miss
You all forgot something, Caithlyn already missed when she cut jinx's finger off insted of taking a head shot, also the little girl head was in right in the middle.
and the second shot she had at jinx she hit vi's shoulder instead i'm pretty sure
@ferzero7910 no necrit explain that it was only to disarmed jinx so vi can finish it you can clearly see after the shot cait withdraw her weapon
and when cait shot vi shoulder we see through the lenses that cait was actually aiming at jinx,so that was a miss too
@@mizukumecasko1216 that's his opinion lol, why the fuck would she shoot the finger off if she could shoot her head off? She missed.
@@mizukumecasko1216I don't know who necrit is but that sounds dumb. Caitlyn has been wanting to shoot jinx since forever.
18:15 the thing about Cate is that she is a highly privileged person with significant wealth and support. In the first season, she was the only one in Piltover who attempted to protect Zaun-and that was only because of Vi. Cate knew what was happening in Zaun and even advocated for it before the Council. However, when she directly experienced the tragedy of losing something important, she went unhinged. She received a large funeral, a costly coffin-likely worth more money than Vi ever saw-and a grand statue and memorial, with support and understanding from the community, while Jinx buried her parent in the water, alone.
Vi, who had witnessed enforcers kill her parents, was tortured in prison, and saw people align themselves with Silco, worked to broaden her perspective for Caitlin. But Caitlin never tried, and couldn’t manage, to do the same after going through what Zaun faces daily.
To me, this highlights how money and privilege can affect someone who seeks revenge. She abused vents, gassed people, and was ready to kill a child.
Cait*
@ yeah, sorry😭
oh 100%
When vi watched isha hug jinx, she must've seen a tiny flicker of Powder. A flicker isn't much but it can become a flame.
Bars
She saw this . Much
That and she still loves her sister. It's the same restraint Jinx showed when she's pointing her gun at her head on Episode 2
She also realized she was doing same thing that left her orphaned.
Really love the detail in the VI vs Jinx fight that while Vi, Sevika and Cait were HORRIFIED and HURT by the chaos energy of the Hexcore and magic, Jinx THRIVED in it. She's someone who understands chaos on a fundamental level, and uses that to her advantage. Like tossing her signature weapon in the air, jumping to catch it, THEN firing. She is very much a "chaos is a pit" type. But she doesn't see the chaos as never ending darkness thrown upon the world. She sees chaos as clarity.
wait ive seen this comment somewhere before
Jinx's fishbones literally explodes right after that moment sending her flying against a wall.
So, not that much of a thrive...
@@DarkChaos1986 She then got up like it didn’t happen, and proceeds to throw hands against someone still using giant heavy paperweights, and was holding her own bareknuckle.
After the Shimmer boost, Jinx is a _bit_ of a freak of nature.
@@alecLoganAs you said, it's shimmer, not hextech what drives Jinx.
In episode 2, Smeech says that the Grey is just factory smog that's trapped underground. We learn from the Kiramann tapes that the rise of industry in the fissures increased air toxicity, aka factory smog, and during her time in the council, she had architects create a ventilation system that would keep the toxic air away from the rest of the undercity residents. However, all it did was trap the smog underground like Smeech said. They didn't fix the problem, they just put a big bandage over it. Jinx rerouted the vents to cause the Grey to blow up towards Piltover instead of stay underground, but the factories in the fissures still exist. As long as the vents remain rerouted, years of that smog is now polluting the air in Piltover. I think Jinx's critique of the "Janna bedtime stories" was that their breathable air wasn't due to some wind goddess saving them, but because the factory smog was still there and just being hidden away by Piltover, ready to be weaponized against Zaun at any time.
The quality this season has already surpassed my expectations so far. The rest of this season is gonna be NUTS
Season 2 episode 1-3 is definitely better than Season 1 episode 1-3.
the pacing is awkward tho. theyre running thru plot points at break neck speed, especially Viktor's arc from dead to alive to leaving to becoming Jesus lol. the characters and viewers aren't given room to breathe. But yeah, other than that it's not all horrible still a great show.
@nabihat.1426 The pacing is perfect. The momentum and tension that is necessary for the stakes is there at all times. But to each their own. House of the dragon should have taken notes. And Viktor never died, he was injured and was already connected to both shimmer and hex tech, that was literally his story in season 1 lol.
Act II just released, how are we feeling fam?
@@nostalgicbliss5547 I would says season 2 already is better than all of s1 LOL
18:11 "Don't see any issue"? I'm sorry, how did y'all forget there was a CHILD RIGHT NEXT TO HER HEAD!? There was too high a chance of Caitlyn blowing Isha's head off too for her to take the shot. She let her anger and grief cloud her judgement and started acting like Jinx. Yes, Vi could've just pulled the kid off, but she probably didn't want to send her down the same path as Powder. Or maybe someone caring about Jinx sparked some new hope, but however you want to spin it, there's still some fault and rash behavior on Caitlyn’s part.
Well now many more will die.
just move the child with big glove??
@@icedcoffee-lf2nkZaunites are going to keep dying no matter what.
@@icedcoffee-lf2nk and if that child watches someone they look up to get their brains blown out and becomes another Jinx, how many more people will die? Vi is fighting for what is right, Cait is fighting for revenge, that is the difference here.
@@creationfied And then the kid will watch somebody she viewed as a protecter be killed right in front of her eyes. They'd be teaching her the only way to meet them is with violence, becuase they'll take the shot if she doesn't first. They'd be continuing the cycle while trying to put an end to it.
HYPED FOR ACT 2 TOMORROW
I was honesty waiting for Roshi to advocate shooting jinx through the kid
That would be Lupa that would wish that
@@charliecederblad8900 both of them would.
Cait had the easiest double kill and fucking Vi stopped it
@@MsPoikoso its fine for enforcers to shoot innocent kids but when Jinx or another person from Zaun does it, it’s wrong 🤷♀️
@@lunarr00 you got it backwards there pal, kid trying to use it's own body as a meat shield to a fucking terrorist, yeah u shoot through it, the kid knows exactly what it is doing, it isn't a random kid getting picked on the street or being blow off on accident
3 reasons Caitlin could miss: she's disoriented, all the Hextech glitching including her gun, and she clearly shot Jinx's finger off when aiming to kill her. And with the Grey, it seems to be due to Zaun being a mining town and only the Kieraman's attempted to help by creating those value shutoffs to help the Under city. Now it's being weaponized by Caitlin. So, Jinx decided to send it back to Piltover with the colorful display. Give them a taste of their own medicine. And Ambessa pointed out the effects with her closing speech, showing the child with an air mask and red eye.
Exactly, she clearly doesn’t have perfect aim, or else jinx would’ve been dead already.
Necrit said she couldn't have possibly missed she was aiming for jinx but vi blocked it with the gauntlet
She also shot off jinx's finger so they could take her in
@@jonathanjohnson6727 considering her behavior at the arcade, I wouldn't put it past her to think she had a shot when she didn't.
what part of cait's behaviour this season suggests she wants to take jinx in
You can see Violet Red pupils in Jinx’s eyes, and Powder blue pupils in Violet’s eyes.
It hurts 🥲🥲
you didn’t find anything wrong with cait gassing the people her mother tried to help?? nothing wrong with chemical warfare HELLOO??? 😭
also that in the montage of caits squad using the gas we see a lot of innocent people,people unarmed,without gang tattos or anything,and some that look really young runnig away from the was like wtf cait,sadly at the same time her mom says they deserve to breath we see cait harming the innocent with that chemical warfare
For real, they were saying "oh you wanna attack us, we'll just poison the air that we fixed" as if they weren't the people who poisoned it in the first place.
also!! cait would’ve 100% missed the shot bc she was 1. disoriented from the fight w sevika 2. the rifle kept glitching 3. she tried to shot jinx at first but missed and got her finger… plus isha was hugging jinx too tight while she was trashing around, the hex bullet would’ve pierced right through jinx and would’ve hit the kid too. cait wasn’t thinking clearly and now ambessa is going to use her and take advantage of her vulnerability
rooting for police brutality AND ambessa is crazy..
You're surprised by yankees supporting fascism? lol
The gas is a non-lethal way for them to operate in the underground as opposed to a full scale invasion which would do a lot more harm.
An insight that some fans seem to overlook regarding Cait's advance v. Jinx is the whole moral imbalance behind her shot.
I've been seeing a lot of casuals go "she wouldn't have missed." That's not the point.
I think even Vi never doubted for a second that Caitlyn could ever miss that-point blank, rather that if she did off her, it would forever scar Isha and that's why Vi kept wanting to stop Cait.
Sure, she wouldn't have missed and killed the primary subject of her objective. But at the cost of shrouding the very moral high ground her late mother stood for and has now posthumously passed on to her, to which we do see being a factor to her being manipulated by Ambessa.
Yeah and that's why Vi should've said that instead of "you could have missed". Then Cait wouldn't have thought Vi switched sides,been alone later which made her open to Ambessas manipulation since her main idol figure she could look up to got murdered by Jinx :)
So again... Jinx caused all the harm that came after and people are like "poor girl..." =_=
@@jos-josradvanji6203 Jinx _seemed to_ not bank on surviving the encounter. Definitely wasn’t counting on Isha making herself collateral damage, and despite having a bomb set, wasn’t intending to use it (yet?).
And Caitlyn was the one who plugged that battery in Jinx’s back; wouldn’t have gotten that smoke to vent without her sending it to them.
I dont blame Vi for stopping at the end there, when that kid came out it probably gave her a huge flashback to how they were when they were kids. This child was willing to die for Jinx and she saw that, on top of the fact that Jinx was completely resigned to dieing there and probably wanted to for a long time.
10:45 someone pointed out that this stain is from back when Viktor was coughing blood in season 1, crazy detail
whys is it acidic like that?
@@crown1346 ig the blood became like that due to the exposure to the arcane
@@crown1346 it's not the blood itself that corroded the floor, it's a "wild rune" that affected it because that's where his blood dripped
Somebody said that killing jinx there would have created another jinx in the child, so the cycle of violence would never end and I believe that, vi made the good move.
The child was also near Jinx's head while they were thrashing... That was a bad shot all around...
Ignoring Isha isnt a genius with a leading mob boss parent figure if Jinx dies, how does not killing/imprisoning her close the CURRENT cycle of violence? Even My Little Pony and Care Bears arent as vainly optimistic to pretend a world shifting serial killer can be tempered with a talk. especially when VI did everything wrong during the finale last season.
@@MintJammer you don't need to be a genius to stop caring enough to start retaliating violently against a system that oppresses you for years
Exactly that's why you kill both duh 🙄
@@bluewolf6323bad shot? She’s an excellent shot. 15:48 that’s a shot right there if vi wasn’t blocking.
"Caitlyn would not have missed"
Yeah that's the problem, she was about to hit a collateral.
Double kill 💀
Not if Vi wanted to remove the kid
@@raec5426I mean Cait would’ve already taken the shot before Vi could’ve done that
@@AyakaAkira31 Vi was hesitating enough to allow the kid to make it in the first place, so that's why Cait responded in the way she did as well.
@@raec5426 yeah vi hesitated at first while jinx was talking to her but if you rewatch, isha rushed them BECAUSE vi was about to punch her out. as soon as jinx said “it had to be you”, vi drew that fist back.
Season 2, so far, has continued the excellence of season 1. The animation, plot points, dialogue, characters and action all just work perfectly. Between this and The Penguin, episodic tv has really hit a high note! Also, If Zaun & Piltover story is this captivating I can't imagine how the other parts of the Runeterra will be like.
The show establishes a few times that bullets fired from the Hextech rifle can punch clean through most things. When Cait was trying to take the shot, the kid was still either covering Jinx, or had her head on the opposite side of Jinx's head from Cait's vantage point. Even if she successfully fired a round into Jinx, it would have passed through and killed the kid too. Cait wasn't thinking.
1: The way Cait left Vi there just like Vi left Powder is sending me.
2: I caught the Ambessa hint in episode one and was still shocked
Word is used to describe everything but the only thing to say about this episode is peak😭
250 million $ budget was definitely worth it for this season
I'm Hyped for the next acts
250 million was for both seasons. 125 each
@@azuosnossylla it was all made at once tho, so its more like it was one season with 2 parts
@@praisethefirstborn6226It’s around 10$M per episode
@praisethefirstborn6226 it was suppose to be 5 season, but they say it would be too expensive. That why they change it to 2 season instead. It still cost 250 m tho
Nah, this the last season
ambessa out there hitting us with the shinzou wo sasageyo
17:49 that statistic of lesbian women experiencing domestic violence INCLUDES their relationships with men, not just women. The majority of the perpetrators of domestic violence were men. This statistic is often used in a misleading way, most of the time by homophobes.
Yeah, it really pissed me off that they put that in there. Such a misleading statistic.
thank you, was about to say
@@Naniko_05 clearly it is a joke
Thank you for this.
@@Naniko_05 your name tho
17:55 This statistic is used in a misleading way, especially by homophobes. People love leaving out the part on the survey talking about the majority of the perpetrators of the domestic violence being men.
This is terrible what they did. Just spreading lies.
Okay then, I'm not wrong that it felt like a microaggression. They could've easily slipped in 👮♀️ 🐖 dv stats, instead.
Of course the majority are men, there are more heterosexual relationships then homo ones duh
But aren't lesbians and bisexuals different? What gives?
@@XiaoyuuuYT some lesbians that was part of the survey experienced DA from their prev partner before coming out or figuring out their sexuality
Cait hit Vi with the trust me bro and almost killed a child lol
Not the lesbian domestic violence statistics 😭
Volution successful
They could have also showed the police officer domestic violence statistics
Yeah It's a LIE. Those lesbians hurt in relationships with MEN. Read fucking research. Misoginist homophobic shit.
@@AmbushIntheDarkWhat do you mean "police officer DOMESTIC violence statistics"?? 😂😂
That cdc study it showed lesbians had high rates of abuse but most of that abuse was in their prior heterosexual relationships - so not at the hands of women.
"You don't want the smoke. Literally."
-Caitlyn
Roshi siding with fascim is crazy😭
It’s so easy to forget who the real victims of oppression actually are
@@EdgyLord42069 bro was a jeagerist too
@@stacysmom9926he didn’t forget loool ambessa is just a brilliantly written character
Its like people saying Oct 7 Oct 7 ignoring nearly a century of constant humiliation and oppression, then using an outburst incident to go even further
@@HKishin exactly
Not y'all on caitlyn's side but hating jinx when she has WAY more reasons to be the way she is than caitlyn😭
Ikr 💀
At least Cait only wants the one gone that harmed her.
Meanwhile Jinx killed Vis family, Caits shooting teacher AND Caits mom despite none of them having done ANYTHING to her.
But hey.. for Jinx we can always excuse everything with "well she was a kid, well it was an accident, well she isn't in her right mind today"
@@jos-josradvanji6203 Thank you
@@jos-josradvanji6203the problem is that caitlyn was harming people who were not jinx just to get to her, and also i'm pretty sure cait's teacher was killed by silco's guy jacked up on shimmer, and usually insanity pleas are allowed in real world so make of that what you will. not even gonna address the child comment because i don't think anyone unironically arguing she deserved to be punished for what she did then (and she was anyway) is serious
i'm not even a jinx stan like most of the fandom but it always feels like the people who aren't are way too hard on her
17:55 This research was not reliable at all though, as only 1.3% of the women who participated in that survey were lesbian (as literally stated in the research itself). There’s also so much more in the research itself that shows that lesbians, in fact, do not have the highest domestic violence rate. A youtuber by the name Katherine Sloan has made a video analysing the research and discussing every misconception. Sorry, as a lesbian I am just so sick of keep having to hear this argument when it’s not even true.
This honestly ruined the channel for me, which is sad because i liked them :/
@@wrathofthelamb318 if a strange editing choice ruins the channel for your then you weren’t much of a fan it was weird joke not a damn declaration of war chill out
@@wrathofthelamb318 If it's a widespread misconception why would you automatically interpret it as malice?
Thank you! I was honestly so thrown off by that unnecessary edit. I’m so tired of that bs
@@81droid81 Because this research gets brought up by homophobes ALL the time in order to justify their hatred towards lesbians. This (false) statistic pretty much never gets brought up with non-malicious intent, so I don’t blame fellow lesbians watching this for not seeing it as a joke, we’re just very tired of it. (Not trying to attack you btw, just explaining. Hope it makes sense!)
Edit: Apparently it’s not even a joke, the editor genuinely believes that these statistics are real and valid.
No way this grown privileged woman/cop is out here taking her recently dead mom’s vent design to help a suffering city just to GAS them with toxic air bc she experienced one ounce of the suffering and brutality her ppl inflicted on a marginalized community for decades😭all to flush out one person that is a direct result of piltover’s bs
That's how world works
Couldn't have worded it better😂. I understand her circumstances because it was her mom, but I just can't seem to care for any of the piltover people lol.
Cait showing her privilege privilege, because she can afford the revenge
LITERALLYY like their reaction to what Cait was doing made me think of this one creator I saw that addressed it and that basically said “I find it frustrating the conversation has become centered around justification bc there is no justification for committing a crime the very person you are attempting to avenge was opposed to. The logic that propels this mindset, the realization that even the people that sympathize w the marginalized may not perceive them as people, is gripping. It’s smth that forces the audience to confront the question, do you truly sympathize with the marginalized or is your empathy contingent on their willingness to accept their abuse? Do you have the ability to see the nuance in the people and groups that have potentially harmed you or do you condemn them all under the same label?”
they could never make me like someone from piltover 🙏
27:40 I think jinx was genuinely planning on dying and the colorful vented out air was supposed to be "fireworks" and for the topside to be like "yay jinx is dead" but because she's jinx none of her plans ever work out so she lived 😂😂
25:50
The point isn’t that Caitlyn’s not a good shot
She is, but only when she’s calm under pressure. They showed it in season 1. She almost lost at the shooting range because. She needs to settle. Her mind is a mess.
In that fight alone, she had a clear shot of jinx, missed and got her finger
Another shot at jinx, missed and got VI’s gauntlet
She wasn’t in the right state of mind, that shot had red flags all over it
I've been following your channel for ages, keep it up!
Roshi going down that slippery slope of siding with genocide -> police brutality -> partner violence -> fascism (...)
stfu
libtard alert weewoo weewoo
Vi was against Cait shooting because the kid was blocking the shot and Cait wanted to shoot anyway even if it meant shooting the kid
Would that really be a bad thing tho
@@alexzander1142 child murder is considered bad, yes.
I honestly sometime don’t get y’all, so putting grey on the underground is ok but if the topside gets it back a bit it’s bad?
@@LeonorIsabel no like honestly what😭😭
The other option was Ambessas invasion which would have KILLED a ton of people.
Cait actually took the less lethal option and only to get people to move away so they don't get into the crossfire.
There's a difference between a tactical team using grey in very specific locations for military purposes and just sending ALL the gas on civilians. I'm not saying using biochemical weapons is okay but at least they used it on actual mafia type villains.
@@titi3736 this
@@titi3736we literally see unarmed people and children running away from Gray in montage.
Mel from S1 E8: "She should have a kind, fat face. Clever, to charm her subjects - but pliable so we can mold her".
Sounds an awful lot like Caitlyn right about now.
cait does not have a fat or kind face rn but i see what you’re trying to say 🤣
So basically that was from her mother's playbook and we're seeing it playout from the master herself.
@@mr.protagonist5639 bingo
One thing I noticed is how Sheera was seemingly okay with Zaun being poisioned by the Gray and cracking jokes, but the moment it gets sent to Piltover it's a problem deserving worry. Just an observation.
Selective IQ.
Both of the trio is in Piltover's side unfortunately
@@KXdareK they already didn't like jinx, and in general they like genocidal characters. Also the top siders are rich, with more resources, are privileged and live nicely soo yep😂
And that's a bad thing why? @@shoujoru
@@alexzander1142 you tell me, idk, I just made a statement and your schizophrenia made you put words in my mouth🤧
17:55 - this is a misleading statistic and has no place being thrown into a reaction video as a fun fact. Kind of fucked up to put that in there when you aren't going to explore and break down where the numbers are coming from and how the study was conducted. That shit needs to be off the vid
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I fuckin knew some people would take that way too seriously.
@@Robin503 they should take it seriously. Dude, stuff like this damages the community. Homophobes see this and go "OMG, I CAN USE THIS IN ARGUMENTS MUAHAHAHA", be fr my dude
@@infamousshinkicker6924 He put it in there as a satire joke for the unfolding scene..
I personally don't take what the editor adds seriously considering his track record on this channel.
But i guess he should have made it more obvious to the viewers to not take the report as factual.
@@infamousshinkicker6924if you don't like it then cry about it you people are beyond sensitive it's annoying you don't like the joke to bad 😐😐 if that statistic applies to you then welp if not then why care enjoy the reaction or get off.
I can see how much work went into this!
i would like also to add context for 18:01 third of lesbian women who have experienced such incidents have had male perpetrators ,so when are two women in a relationship, there are more people who have experienced sexual violence than when there is just one woman in a relationship, alot of lesbian dated men before
more people need to see this comment and like it so that roshi can see how it can be harmful to spread this kind of misinformation
Yeah if you analyze the stats from CDC lesbians actually have the lowest abuse stats (29%) and the highest is bi women by their male partners
Vi noticed the glitching and didn't want Caitlin's gun to glitch and hit the kid
Good catch I totally forgot about that detail
Yall could never have me be cool with Caitlyn after she said “I thought you were one of the good ones”…..
18:00 the thing about that survey is that it's not about lesbians's prsent relationships but was about women's previous partners (mostly men). meaning women who have been with men before getting into relationships with women have faced abuse. and since you know in a lesbian relationship there are two women the percentage of previous abuse by men is gonna show the double.
The song during the fight is an ancient shuriman prayer to the wind goddess Janna. Janna used to guide ships across the seas safely, but as time went on people forgot about her. Then they began praying to her again when the Grey was rampant. They prayed to her for fresh air.
I really don't know why Vi agreed to gas her people, but I hope Jinx or Ekko speaks up about it.
Zaun also has a huge homeless population so people definitely died from this.
To be fair, she had a point that it would clear the streets. Alot less of a chance you would get shot if your already running from the smog
Vi pretty much did it for Cait, it's obvious that she didn't enjoy being an enforcer at all.
Also the grey poping up in places seems to be a natural disaster(though it definitely wasnt natural in this case) in zaun so any one who lives in zaun should already know to run.
She agreed to it cause Jinx need to die before Piltover destroys all of Zaun looking for her. Viktor saving all them homeless people anyways. 😭
Because 😺 blinds people
The grey is a dense gas made from the pollution of the underground factories, there, deep in the fissures the gas doesn't have where to go so it accumulates but when Jinx vented the gas to the topside the gas dispersed naturally, some people got affected but it wasn't for long. But that wasn't the solution to the pollution problem because the gas is still being produced, Jinx used the gas more as a message to start conflict with topside.
Roshi when Vi won't let Cait kill a child: 🤬
Roshi when Cait becomes Piltover's Mussolini: 🤩
hi guys I love your reactions and I've been following your channel for so long now I really enjoy your content! Idk who is your editor but I felt like I had to add a thought regarding the rather misleading statistic they shared on *that* scene of cait hitting vi. The study in question included lesbian women who previously had a relationship with a man (before coming out) which really alters the actual statistic since the very same study showed almost/or more than 90% of straight and bi women were or had faced violence by their *male* partners .
Now before some idiot comes yapping and assuring I'm trying to defend caitlyn's actions; I'm not, but I don't think is the best course to share information that is not completely factual and that could be rather harmful on the portrayal and generalization of lesbians.
I really want them to see this comment.
@@Yellowmoon42 i really wonder how this situation with what the editor put is going to be dealt with
@@abellaguna82 probably ignored
dont think anyone would be using it for the generalization of lesbians here . i have not seen nobody coment about it apart from the ones that are criticezing it
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Thats only 3 episodes its already crazy this season is going to be absolutely amazing , the animation my god i cant get over it its so beautiful
Man the people that have beef with Ambessa, played her. She says herself "You're have no idea how much family matters to me" and shortly after that Mel got snatched.
Well ironically that's literally The Black Roses job x'D
Ambessa is what we need to rid the world of SCUM 👀
She is the scum
She IS the scum!
Yeah there's no winners when it comes to war
I have this feeling that her days are numbered
Ayo 👀
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Edit: Apparently they already watched the Ambessa music video on the rewatch season 1 stream
This was in a comment under Roshi's but you guys should really watch the Ambessa music video called "Blood Sweat & Tears" by Sheryl Lee Ralph. It's so good and give a tiny bit of insight into her origins.
PS. We should upvote this to they see it
They ended up watching it over on Twitch during their rewatch of Season One
In the game Caitlin's ultimate move cannot be dodged or miss, but it CAN hit a person its not intended for if they hop in the way of the shot as it travels to its intended target. And it stops at the first person it hits. So good supports will position themselves between the target and the shot. So that lil kid playing Jinx's support in the show is doing an excellent job, technically. Thats the exact thing a pro player would have done in high level play is try to bodyblock a Caity ult for their ADC (Attack/Damage/Carry) Jinx by hopping in between the two.
The gun has been glitching out and even when it stopped Cait missed her first shot and hit her hand. Despite having a clean line of sight to her head. Plus, she didn't give a damn about the kid. She would've felt bad after, but in the moment it was obvious that she didn't care
The grey is produced in the fissures naturally so it'll regenerate over time. Jinx just hit them with the current collection of gas
The statistic about domestic violence seems kinda weird to put there especially since it says Partner. not only have many lesbians had multiple male relationships before realising or being strong enough to come out and date a woman.
the usage of this data is often used in a fucked up way to say that all lesbian relations are abusive. that's false. it merely shows that a lot of queer women have been a victim of abuse whether that's at the hand of a man, a woman, or anyone else in a couple.
I think it’s mainly used as a joke, I don’t think the editor actually thinks lesbians are abusers and more violent than straight men
@rank1562 Joke or not it causes queer women to experience more homophobia.
@@wrathofthelamb318so what then it's a joke not meant to be that serious or deep watch the reaction or don't 🗿
@blueblazedemon It may seem not serious to you but many people do believe that false stat and it causes alot of harm towards queer women. With the audience they have perpetuating that kind of thing only makes it worse.
@@blueblazedemonit seems like a joke until men use it to harrass lesbians yall are weird
So are we gonna talk about how KKKaitlyn domestic violenced Vi after Vi went "Excuse me, Police Brutalitlyn, i can't let you _HaVe thE ShOt_ when there's children on the line of fire" and Radicalizedlyn went "i tought you where one of them good ones" 😭🤣
(I know Caitlyn is grieving and has trauma, great character writting btw and she _is_ one of THE league of legends marksman, but there's no way taking that shot with the risk of hitting the child literally hugging the target is ethical or expected of a cop, specially with her gun literally phasing in and out of existence 10 seconds ago)
@@yurimaldonado4966 she said "it's her blood in your veins" like woahhh😂😂
The nicknames is TURNING me
libtard alert weewoo weewoo
Vi: "I don't want you to change."
Caitlyn: "A'ight, Imma crash out."
0:57 😂😂😂 why did Sheera think that man was ekko 😂😂
Average girls night out vs average boys night out the episode
Killing Jinx wouldn't have made any longterm gain. There would always be another Jinx.
that's why i don't get people who was so sure of cait for trying the shot, because just like you said the guns and weapons were glitching, she couldn't even make the shot the first time just getting jinx finger, what more that there's a collateral
Saying it again in hopes this will be seen.
The lesbian dv statistics are misinterpreted and often times used to spread harmful narratives about lesbians being violent.
Most lesbians have experienced abuse during prior heterosexual relationships. So mostly not at the hand of other women. I really hope you address this :/.
Why would they address this? It was a joke that was on the screen for 2 seconds and didn't imply any type of narrative at that moment.
@@StrawSundew It did imply a narrative, by being compared (incorrectly) to the stat on DV for straight women. If it was a joke- 1) it wasn't funny, 2) it didn't require the comparison.
@@vadalia3860humor is subjective, that’s not an opinion it’s a fact. And the fact u can’t figure that out already means u not grown enough for this convo
@@Jkobe915why is there a child with an anime avi telling someone they're "not grown enough"? Shit is baffling.
@@vadalia3860 you don't to decide what is funny or not
25:17 Heimerdinger suddenly understands the nature of arcane, its not something you can stablize and control over the years of studying, It's equivalent exchange.
He always knew. Him suggesting that to the council is what got him kicked out from it itfp
Cait Stans are doin fkn backflips over this episode trying to justify everything 😂
Same as Jinx fans who justify her every mass murdering act with every excuse they can find, from "just a child" to "it was an accident" all the way to "but she's mentally fucked up so u can't put that on her"
I won't lie, first time I saw the conversation with Lest, and she said, "I didn't hear anything." I actually screamed, "LIES. YOURE 90% EARS."
Zaun Lives Matter ✊🏾😂😂😂
Just an FYI for that stat about lesbian women experiencing DV- if you read the report, 1/3 of that number is DV committed by men. Just because someone identifies as a lesbian doesn't mean they've never been involved romantically with a man. The highest reporting of DV was among bisexual women (over half), 90% of which was committed by men. It's important not to make assumptions when reviewing data that can lead to incorrect conclusions.
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Isn't a statistic about lesbian women only suppose to contain reports on lesbian women..?
Wtf kinda report is that..?
I hate the fact they put that there when its so misleading. It feels like a micro aggression.
@@Robin503 The questions "what is your sexual orientation?", "have you ever experienced violence at the hands of an intimate partner?", and "what was the gender of the intimate partner who used violence against you?" are all separate questions & rightfully so. My grandmother considered herself a lesbian for most of her life but still married & had 7 kids with (and was abused by) my grandfather before she knew enough about herself to know she was gay. Why wouldn't it be relevant to the report that she's both a lesbian and has been abused by a male intimate partner?
@@wrathofthelamb318 Yeah, it'd be one thing if it just pointed out that domestic violence can occur between two women (since there's probably some (hopefully small) portion of the people watching who think women can't be abusers) but the way it was contrasted with the numbers for straight women (and conveniently leaving out the stats for bi women even though they're the most likely to experience abuse) is the kind of attempted "gotcha" I normally only see from homophobes & incels. Shame on whoever decided to include it in that specific way.
I like your group’s reactions, definitely something I look forward too alongside my favorite shows.
Lupa’s 16:28 “Bombocleet” is taking me OUTTTT
“To Ashes And Blood” by Woodkid has been stuck in a loop in my head since I saw this episode, and I freaking love it. It sounds like the perfect entrance music if you were a UFC fighter or a WWE wrestler.
LMAO the censor?! 4:52
17:55 good luck babe playing there is so vile 😭
That cdc study it showed lesbians had high rates of abuse but most of that abuse was in their prior heterosexual relationships - so not at the hands of women.
the kiss low-key made me tweak out in a good way
The statistic you guys cited about lesbian intimate partner violence is a common myth used to further right-wing reactionary attitudes about lesbian women. The reason lesbians report at higher rates to have been abused at some point by an intimate partner is because many of those lesbians were in relationships with MEN before coming out, and likely *due* to coming out as lesbian were assaulted by their male partners. There is no factual basis to the claim that suggests that lesbian women abuse their partners at higher rates than straight women do.
Thank you
27:30
Just to answer your question, yes, she did get rid of the Grey.
Probably the "color attack", so I call it, was part of a plan that meant to actually set chaos in Piltover. I don't know why, to be honest.
Probably Sevika actioned the bomb too soon. That's why Powder tried to stop her verbally.
Hope I was useful, love your videos! 👍
Have a good day! 😊
Peps talking about wether Cait could have made the shot or not, when Vi's point was it was morally wrong to even risk that with a child involved, ie Cait had already broken her promise when she shot at Isha.
You're right Caitlyn wouldn't miss (even though she just missed twice) Caitlyn would have killed the kid, it was showed that Caitlyns gun pierces everything, even the metal bowl Vi uses as cover from Jinx's gun. So Caitlyn would have killed both Jinx and the child.
nah bro the kid was on top of her and her head was right next to jinx's. Had she taken the shot, the kid would have gotten clapped. plus I feel sorry for Vi after that intimate moment with cait promising her she wouldn't change
I feel bad for both. Vi couldn't have worded that any worse,making it seem like no matter what she'll always side with Jinx who is responsible for a ton of deaths including a bunch of personal ones.
Meanwhile Vi just wanted to avoid recreating another serial killer with the small one but instead of saying that says "you could've missed". =_=
Like...just say "the cycle continues because the small one will be the next jinx" and Cait would've probs gotten the memo. But nah. Saying "you could have missed" right after trusting her and saying "take the shot" that's....yeah. Good fuck up Vi xD
The kid wad part of the shot what you talking about roshi 😭💀 Cait was about to boom a child vi ain't down with that
@gustavosouza7705 maybe if the two are people who need to be put down but when it comes to an innocent child that's another story
Bro Cait would have 100% shot that kid 😭 she was fueled by nothing but vengeance and hatred. Sure Vi told her to take the shot, but not at the expense of an innocent life, I’m sure that was a given.
Not you guys putting in a false abuse stat for lesbians that includes abuse from men, that, if removed, would put the percentage of abuse well below that of straight women.
To be fair, it's their editor. Not sure if they check the edited video once the editor is done.
@@infamousshinkicker6924 Wondering if they even bother to check the comments because their editor is also doubling down and being a piece of garbage there as well.
@@ymir6286I am watching the video right now and i dont see the edit(thank god) so probably they removed it. Check pinned comment
@@ymir6286 triggered?
@@miniroseyo Clown?