WOTLK Classic Profession Picking Guide - Every Class in under 10 minutes!
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2:09 - Death Knight
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you're awesome.
When I played originally I did enchanting with skinning and converted my skinning over to JC.
Some absolute chad guildie gave me all his trash gems to level up.
Many thanks to Jan of Finland if he's out there.
I hope everyone follows these guides so i can control the mining and blacksmith market.
Haha can I get a share?
@@Scottejaye I may need underlings to help move product 😏
Worth noting that the hyperspeed accelerators will incur a 10second cooldown on your trinkets when used. Casters may want to consider BiS trinkets before going engi
I recommend having both a gatherer and the most useful crafter profession for your class. ALWAYS. The profession bonus are minimal and probably you won't notice them in your day to day raids or arenas, most of this mechanics are vastly overcomed by player skill, I've beated countless engi/jc min-max pvp players with my herbalist/inscriptor rogue, because poor performance and mistakes they committed and their frustration was inmense just because in the end of the day they need millions of gold to keep that min-maxed char (because they can't gather materials themselves or they have to log on another farming char and they can't do rdf or farm rep while gathering for example, which amenizes the tediousness a ton) while if I lose I'm usually OK because I have tons of gold and I can do other activities with the same char for improving slowly while having fun. In general, I do not recommend this kind of min-maxing experience to anybody but the most bored and hardcore players that just want to go on a final rampage before leaving wow forever. Because the experience is so stressful for so little and niche benefits that for me It's just not worth it, it turns wow into a job and that's NOT fun. Just my opinion as a veteran player (since original BC in 2009). No matter what you do there will be always someone better AND worse than you, and believe me you don't wanna be the 1st one if you want to have fun on this game. Cheers!
Great advice! What would you suggest for a Fury Warrior in this case?
what should i go for AFF Lock?
I’ve maxed engineering on two characters now without having a gathering profession while also buying dual spec on both. It wasn’t stressful or difficult at all….I just did dailies for a few days and boom whaddya know I have plenty of gold to spend on professions
Going with jc/alchemy on my resto shaman early on. JC goes without saying, alchemy early on because I'm already alchemist and I want that tasty trinket for p1-2. As a healer I prefer a consistent solid output over burst healing unless there are lots of fights that require burst healing every minute that would benefit haste gloves. Once the trinket goes obsolete its time for blacksmithing for consistent haste.
Makes sense mate I’m actually going engi enchant as feral in phase 1 for some gold farms I know early on, then switching out enchant for JC for ulduar. Definitely a lot of room for manoeuvre with professions. 🙏
i belive there is going to be plenty of good trinkets and u only can have 2 at the time and only 1 in pvp anyway so idk
@@Dualities Unless you go human. They have a free pvp trinket as a racial so they stack 2 dps trinkets. Humans will rule the pvp meta
Yes please, everyone go JC and tank the gem prices through the floor and make the rest of our lives cheaper :D
This is why I’m going inscription. The glyphs will be worth so much with EVERYBODY going JCing/Eng
The ore price won’t go down though and lower the gem price unless people pick mining though lol
appreciate the druid combo breakdowns
Been so excited for this video! Lets go! You legit make the best wow content on the planet!
I had an idea for a video for you. When you can stop leveling tbc professions in prep for wotlk. Example stop tailoring at 350 in tbc since you can make bolts of frostweave at 350 in wotlk. Do this for all professions.
It wouldn't be much of a video as I think it's a baseline skill requirement for all crafting professions and you can train the next tier -25 points from the cap (350 in this case). The first recipes are always super easy to make as well.
Do you have a guide for best gold making professions for alts? Gathering professions? Any professions with cooldowns? Professions that don’t require raiding to get mats or recipes?
Herbalism
Scotte: What class do you plan on playing?
Me: Well I was actually thinking about playi-
Scotte: JC/Engineering ought to sort you out, mate.
😂😂
Hahahahaha
Back in the day, my engineer would keep six extra pairs of their best shoes in their bags. I had a nifty macro that would engage the rocket boots and immediately equip the next boot from the list of shoes following a /castsequence macro command (which is currently unavailable in TBC classic). What this boiled down to was, in optimum situations where you can't mount up and won't be in combat, you'll be running at 200% speed for 5 seconds out of every 30.
To crunch out what this looks like, keep in mind rocket boots had a three-minute cooldown on use and a thirty-second cooldown on equip:
0:00 /use best pair of shoes, equip 2nd best pair
0:30 /use 2nd best pair, equip 3rd best pair
1:00 /use 3rd best pair, equip 4th best pair
1:30 /use 4th best pair, equip 5th best pair
2:00 /use 5th best pair, equip 6th best pair
2:30 /use 6th best pair, equip best pair of shoes
3:00 repeat.
My macro had a few extra tailorings, like equipping the best pair on middle-click and using the parachute on right-click (cuz these things will occasionally blow you sky-high, but that's half the fun).
I like the guide but it seems like it would be beneficial gold wise to do something else due to the apparent over saturation of jewel crafting there will be
good thing this video isn't about gold making right?...
Dot classes like the shadow priest absolutely benefit more from Tailoring over JC because they snapshot that enormous spell power proc.
I will be going tailoring on my spriest for certain, but I really like alchemy for the 2nd prof. It sucks to hear that eng is a must, but I wonder how much single target dps loss it is to be alchemy instead. Any idea? I get that bombs/sappers are great for aoe, but I'm wondering more about bosses than trash.
As disc I’m keeping tailoring/enchanting. Since I already have max level enchanting, it doesn’t seem worth it to switch for just 2 sp. Also with the number of people going jc, enchanting should be more needed in guilds and on servers so can help you make money from offering services and be more useful to my guild.
This helped me a lot. Great video
I think everyone should follow Scott's advice to the letter... so I can make a shit ton of gold with blacksmithing and inscription :D
I created an alt and boosted for Leatherworking (285) so that I could run Dire Maul North and mass produce Gordok Ogre Suits for my main when I raid Stormwind in Arugal.
Imagine everyone on your server watched this video and your auction house is empty with no mats cuz everyone has JC and Engi
Great video, straight to the point. Thanks!
Cheers for the guide mate!
How I wasn’t subd is beyond me. Solid vid.
Gonna balance it on my rogue. Currently Jfc/eng. Gonna figure which to drop for mining to double up to get back to my tbc standing and work it from there. Good times. 😂
wait...why jewel and engi for hunters?
Great video, really helpful!
Glad it was helpful! Cheers mate.
I prefer LW/Skinning as i wont need to worry about druid bots etc when farming mats
Based.
this is a great for coming back
Im excited for wrath
Not really sure about nitro boosts.
I've lost count how many times they launched me into space during boss fights.
For others out there like myself that don't want to go engineering. Save yourself some time and skip this video.
Herbalism is also good it gives haste, havent' seen any videos for that many people forgot that skinning herb and mining are giving stats :)?
In the end game people will just go back to engi and jc to min max
Because it doesn’t give haste 😊 not until cata pre patch
Great thing about jc and bs is that you can choose a stat you want to buff, which is great for for example armor pen stacking. What I'm actually thinking for a rogue is to start tailoring/enchanting. Both professions give good buffs for raiding, ass rogue is ok with ap from enchanting, it's going to be good enough untill late ulduar when I swap to combat and on top of all of that it's probably the best combo for passive gold income by just playing the game, because of disenchanting unwanted gear and passively getting more cloth.
Gotta say I still think about just going either jc or engi at the start but I wouldn't go instantly double crafting profession, I'd have to keep mining and one good prof, which is probably ok for naxx, but still feels bad to keep that mining, so I'm torn on this one. Maybe that's the way to go, maybe the best thing to do is to keep mining untill I can get like ilvl 200 geared miner alt. Gotta say I prefer not choosing professions based on the buffs they provide.
Jc is overvalued especially for melee . I have feeling tailoirng eng will be bis for pve damagw dealing
@@stonymontana9773 y is JC overvalued for melee. I play fury war
Two questions:
1) Scotte are you *REALLY* committed to Wrath Classic or are you far more likely going to jump ship back to private servers? And then to Cata?
2) So Engineering for everything basically - welcome back to Classic vanilla guys, where you only get to pick 1 profession for your main and eng is mandatory.
I won’t be going anywhere for WOTLK mate. If it looks likely there will be cata Classic I’ll put some prep work in for the channel between TOC and ICC but that will be about it
And yea engi FTW lol
RUclipsrs are committed to content creation bro. they make videos about popular things. It is not a rocket science. welcome to the age of content creation
Private servers are an actual classic community. You're playing retail lite, that's it. Cata will be even worse
Trinkets with sockets O_O *Mind blown away*
just a reminder for the JC gems, you can only have 3 of each gem equipped so for my prot warrior for example the 3 extra gems will provide me with 882.9 health and assuming you are dropping blacksmithing for it then you would lose the extra sockets so the health would be even less (359 health) which is about a 1% increase of your health at p1 bis and even less if your a tauren. The same applies applies to DPS warriors dropping blacksmithing for JC, JC strength gem gives 34 so 34x3 = 102 strength vs 16x3 + 16x2 (blacksmithing sockets) = 80 strength so in conclusion dropping BS for JC would give you 22 extra strength which I dont think is worth it especially since you lose value from the gems in ToC when epic gems get released.
The only difference will be +2 strength for JC vs BS. 34*3 =102 vs 20*3 + 20*2 = 100 when epic jems are available
@@TheGodfather7650 exactly so idk why people say its unplayable.
My holy/prot paladin is engi/ench now. Im prob gonna keep it that way since the JC is kinda min max and falls off hard later
i was thinking the same thing lol ill be prot/ret and those 2 profs just seem to be good for raiding and moneymaking for sure
Yes and no JC give 3 big boy gems compared to non JC
With enchanting not really being the absolute best for any class...
What class & spec alt would you recommend it on and it still being a good 3rd choice/runner up?
Comments are good for the RUclips Algorithm
I'm BS/Engi on my ret paladin in TBC and I think I'll just keep those professions, nothing in JC really seems so much better than an entire extra socket on bracers/gloves
Yeah JC loses value when epic gems come out while BS gains value
Same here
I think you have it wrong with feral tank boomy offspec. I think JC engi would be better. As bears suffer from threat issues the added haste on the pull may have more value for bear and high value for boomy.
i thought for priest ( and most casters ) engineering and tailoring would be BiS ?
Tailoring and JC is great for melee dps too, the cloak proc stacks with the parachute cloak enchant on your cloak
Is the cloak not engi?
Nice Video Bro i liked it
back in the day i leveled up jc on my feral druid and ended up dropping it,, it gave me such a headache,, since some of dps gear was also used for tanking gear mainting the use of the 3 jc gems for both specs was just painful . it seemed like every time i good piece of gear im replacing a minimal 6 gems just because of 1 piece and that's not counting using certain set for certain encounters
Can you use nitro boots in tree form? Seeing a tree zoom around to get out of danger, just add benny hill music.
Haha yea you can mate and thanks for that; not gonna be able to get that tune out my head all day now 😂
I've been hearing from other guides and WotLK disc priests that tailoring is actually bad for disc, because the "spiky" spellpower can mess with Rapture procs and make you miss mana gains vs a steady spellpower gain (by creating a shield too big to be popped by some AoE mechanic you're looking to time with Rapture, while the tailoring proc is up). A lot seem to recommend pairing something else w JC, often enchanting or alchemy.
That was very informative, but aren't you the one who keeps saying that inscription is really good too? What toon should be getting inscription, and what should inscription be paired with?
i think engineering and tailoring for spellhance shaman for the extra spellpower
So what i'm hearing here, is that if you want to make bank, definitely go mining because ore is going to be in high demand.
Does enchanting rings still give a good buff? Seems like enchanting just isnt as good as eng? I was going to go Enchant/JC
holy pally back in wrath wanted BS+JC for INT stacking
So Minning is the money winner with everyone going Engineering and JC.
Thank you for your explanation for each class, what would you recommend for frost mage for arena?
can i switch from gnomish to goblin in wotlk without dropping enginneering and relearning it
I'm sticking with Skinning and Tailoring with my ele shaman, once hit capped, haste scales well but up to 40% as well as crit but spell power in main prio, so tailoring will cover the spellpower while the skinning bonus helps the crit (though on ST situations, crit isn't as useful because it really only affects lightning bolt, AoE, wise, crit is nice to get, but otherwise meh)
How much less spell power would you get from (JC or Tailoring)/Engi vs. JC/Tailoring? Because my demo lock is currently JC/tailoring but I was kind of looking forward to the fun of engi
For Shadow Priest, I thought Tailoring was a must, because you benefit more from the Embroidery the Shadow Word: Pain or something. Is Jewelcrafting still better in that case?
JC is amazing for every class, similar to engi but yes, tailoring is a "must". Them and warlocks do well with the snap shotting. There a couple more exceptions that can go tailoring like UH death knight wants to snapshot for garg. Just your preference is all. Some people don't really like that part of rotations waiting for snap shots.
@@sebastianmonzon6285 got it, thanks!
@@sebastianmonzon6285 do professions affect arena? for example that cloak buff from tailoring?
Hey Scotte! I was banking on JC/BS for my Pally Tank. Extra sockets would’ve been nice. Sounds like mobility is the way to go over what BS offers ? Especially if I don’t plan to dual spec 😜 strictly tank
Don't worry about it. I played Alch+Herb on a private server and tanked raids at a high pace with no issue.
Pally tanks will be op regardless of
Profs so pick what ya like xD
JC/BS is BiS for Prot Paladin, you don't need the mobility and the armor from engi is meh compared to extra sockets and bonus gems my dude.
This has been theory crafted to DEATH over on the Paladin Discord.
@@jjtrudeau8414 Paladin Discord?
@@Ghoulsocool Lightclub - won't let me post the link :( amazing resource!
if you are playing any character ever in WoW, you should really be JC and Eng.
Apparently we should go engineering and jewelcrafting
It does seem that way 😂😂
If I can only afford to level JC or Engi on a DPS warr, which one should I drop for mining?
Love the videos!
Shadow priests go Tailor/Engi. The tailoring proc can be combined with your on use items and other random procs to snapshot huge chunks of spellpower onto your dots, and the spellpower is preserved as long as you refresh the dots with MF rather than recasting (which is the default way to play)
I think he was speaking in the idea of people going disc for dual spec for pve instead of double spriest for pvp and pve. You are correct 100% for spriest and if you don't plan on going heals at all.
how do you refresh the dots with MF?
@@kingnormie A talent you refresh pain. You only put it on once and flay constantly refreshes it.
@@sebastianmonzon6285 That doesn't snapshot spellpower and haste tho. Only crit and % dmg increase.
Nice vid appreciate it
Video well done as always, this one tho is👌
Maybe this is a controversial opinion but I'd like to see Engineering changed so that Nitro Boosts could be applied to non-Engineer's boots via the trade window. This would very minorly nerf Engi, but with bombs, cloak tinker, glove tinker, and more, it would still be the most powerful profession.
As I see it Nitro Boosts are going to be mandatory for every serious player in both PVE and PVP. The intention of original WotLK was to make every profession very balanced, and they did a great job for the most part. However the way we play the game is very different today, and if you're walking into a serious raid without Nitro Boosts you're definitely limiting the experience of everyone else in the raid.
great video, time stamps would make it so much more appealing
for you rogues out there, id like to mention tailoring and engi.
as a holy pala, when *should* I pick up engi? Currently I'm jc/alch (for the sunwell trinket) so I imagine I'll be mid 70s before I'll find a trinket to replace that and the direbrew hops. I've also seen people saying that you might hit haste cap even before stepping into naxx making the engi haste boost less effective, the rocket boots can be resolved by having better positioning so it seems like just getting the BS for extra sockets will be better for straight healing once we get some naxx gear or even slightly before that.
Please make a video about stealth dungeon farms for mining/herbing. Can't find any info about it.
I've seen alot of Engineering and tailoring recommendations on old posts late in wrath and on warmane for Rogue. What makes jewelcrafting better ?
Question regarding Holy Pally…With BS providing 2 gems (constant perk) which increases the mana return from divine plea as well as boosting spell power….how/why do we think JC/Engy is the smart choice? It would seem JC/BS is the undisputed winner of the min/max game. A 3 min CD nitro boosts to pick up the slack on the occasion you fail at positioning does not seem (to me at least) worth it. I’m not knocking JC/Engy (both of which I have at 375), but I’m more looking for a reason to not drop engy for BS. QOL aside, from a min mix perspective there seems only one clear winner
I agree
Alchemy Engeneering is my way to go. this 40% more from manapots are just too good. im Main healing.
great video. I plan on playing hunter in wotlk. i have leather working and skinning. i understand jc/eng is best but will i have to if I want to raid? ty in advance. Cheers!
Yes please! Everyone go JC/Engi so gems and Mechanohogs are cheap AF, and I get to be the only LW and Alchemist on the server.
I have a question about this. When do you switch from mining to JWC? At start or pre-patch, at launch or at 80? (if you choose Engineering and JWC end game @scottejaye
I’m going mining/JC on my rogue for phase 1. Have a engi kit ready for when Ulduar comes out. To much gold to be made from JC early on.
my warrior's gunna be eng/bs and my pally Jc/Bs at the start
Same my war sticking eng/bs cause I really don’t wanna level another one from scratch especially jc 😂😂😂
I'm ench/inscription for my rshaman
If you go JC/Eng, I assume you’d need and alt with mining then? Otherwise it’s costly to level up and make stuff
Game is a far-cry of what it used to be. IMO there’s two demographics classic attracts: zoomers that never experienced an unmolested OG version (you have my deepest condolences), and older dudes still playing an antiquated version whilst being hopelessly addicted and stuck re-living the past.
They say depression is living in the past….
Or just people that enjoy the gameplay of classic compared to the drastic changes that led to what retail is today. A lot of people still play for fun and don’t care about this min maxing shit
As an Assassination Rogue main, if I wanted to do Mining + Engi or JC which should I go. I assume Engi is the bigger dps increase ??
Yes defo go mining engi over mining JC for sure
@@Scottejaye thanks keep up the awesome content :)
Staying with my rogue moving into wrath and plan on keeping my skinning + LW. With limited gold and time to play I do enjoy farming my own mats and crafting items. Will I really be at that much of a disadvantage?
Not really, maybe 2-3 percent max if you perform rotations optimally
I was honestly considering Engineering+Blacksmith for my DK.
It might be behind JC in the first few faces, but won't be behind anymore as soon epic gems unlock ... right?
All the profs are so close mate I really should of said at the start of the video that this is purely my recommendation for each class but ultimately we are talking such a minimal amount of DPS gain from each
Hello Thx for video.
For holy paladin ok for JC but for thé second professions except for mobility why not BS for extra socket for gemming ? Seems a better boost for sp or intel ?
Going to play hunter in WOTLK, I don't have the gold for buying mats off the AH as I have not really played that much. Would I just go for Mining/EG ?
Do I need to bother with picking a specialization in engineering? Or can I make sapper charges in any spec?
Goblin for sappers mate
So scotty, what you're saying is to stock up on JC/engi leveling mats to make bank? guess its back to silithus on the rogue
no. you'll not make as much gold as you think. most people that are gonna burn gold on release will already have tbc jc/engi. what you wanna do is herbalism since inscription is a new profession if you wanna farm old mats
I want to PVP a lot on my Ret Paladin for Wrath. Should I go Mining/BS or Mining/Engi? BS/Engi makes me worried I won't have enough money to support it but it is tempting.
So BiS for warrior is Jewel/ Engineer???
What about BS
Disc / holy priest ? I have enchanting atm and thinking about JC or Tailoring...
I think u miss hunter???
But yea engineering and jc i guess
I don't want to go full blast with JC and Engi on my warrior but i was wondering if its worth switching mining to engineering a month or two into phase 1 of Wrath so i have Engineering and Blacksmithing.
please timestamp your videos, great content!
As a disc priest main/Shadow OS who can only play 1 character. How’s the classic tailoring/enchanting work?
Tailor ench will be solid mate 100%. Especially if shadow is only your off spec.
@@Scottejaye thanks for the response. Keep up the quality content!
Is the attack power proc from tailoring no good for melee? I was wondering if it was worth going over JC
is jc better than enchanting for prot paladin because u can do strength gems vs sp enchant? 2 sp difference for being able to disenchant seems like a good trade. just trying to plan ahead. never played wrath before.
Isn't jewelcrafting less valuable when epic gems are available?
PVP Rdruid, which profession do u reckon ?
Still waiting for that video on professions on alts you will not lvl, just use them for their cooldowns, also offhand do you know the lvl needed to learn Wotlk professions? Know you still need 68 for alch specialzation quests but beyond that is it 65 or 60 for everything else?
I hate engineering since vanilla but it is always meta
Why would you drop Engi as Cat main/resto offspec?