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I am the author of Rotation Master. Thanks for the video! A great overview, and completely expected. Glad to see it's helping out and working for you.
Seems like a great addon that you created! Will definitely download it once I start levelling on a fresh server. All the best!
any chance we get this for retail
Preston you think this can be adapted for healing? I can show you an example that I made in Weakauraus.
i may know my rotation by heart for my class but i will probably run this just so i can focus on mechanics not my rotation
How well does this work with a ret pally? I know he shows it but he’s not max lvl using blood and such can you set it so it knows the last .01 second to push blood for twisting? Or is it just gonna highlight blood the whole time till it’s pushed ? I see this working well on pretty much any other toon but ret to me seems difficult to set up!
I love the idea of doing this for all the classes/specs. Feel like they would help a lot of people closer to launch, and also those views from those videos... would be a pretty nice extra for you probably
Think it would be cool if it had a faded glow for the next up in rotation. Means you don't miss time if there's no gcd
I think a cat DPS one would be interesting as I am still trying to think through all the ‘plates spinning’. Might be more than 5min video setting it all up though!
this
He says the rotations are easy and will get harder and I'm over here sweating trying to get used to timing my power shifting right and still wearing that level 40 helm because it's BiS I guess. It's goofy but pretty fun
I setup seal twisting on pally. just have to keep in mind there will be a lot of conditionals AND youll have to know the basics of how to play anyways. For the complex stuff i find it just helps like show when the combo is starting. Like in pally seal twisting i have .5 sec on my swing timer to hit that twist if thats any consolation how specific you can get.
I would really like to see a complex example of a setup (Cat maybe ?) to see what it can and maybe can not do. For example i wouldnt know how to set up Savage Roar and Tigers Fury.
Nice videos btw! Really enjoing the content lately.
this please scotty
this please!
this wouldn’t work on a combat rogue, unless it tracked your cooldowns, procs etc
A specific rotation video would be amazing, not only for the addon and the individual profiles but even for just explaining the rotations it would be worthwhile.
Would be cool to see the rotations. Could make it easier for me to pick a class as well because I'd actually know what's going on with the late game gameplay :D
I've had a look at this and it doesn't look like it can deal with dots that have a cast time. For example Vampiric Touch, Unstable Affliction or Immolate. The cast time of these spells varies with haste. So if you set this up to say "glow when there is 1.5s left on Immolate", then if you have a haste proc then you'll clip your dot. If you just say "glow when Immolate isn't on the target" then you're missing out ticks and losing dps. It needs some more complex conditions to be able to handle this
Indeed and no proc Condition
I had no troubles setting that up, you just have to know the times when those things happen and program it to see if that buff is on you to use that condition, place it higher on the list and bam when you have the haste proc buff it will use that instead. This addon is not easy to guess at sometimes, might have to write out a flow chart and then test it in the real world before taking it into a raid. While you can change the order on the fly trust me setting condition on the fly is a pain in the ass.
Seems like such an easy tool to use! I will 100% watch if you do rotation videos
There's a rotation addon called Hekili that i think dates back to wrath. It calculates the optimal rotation and suggests abilities based on optimal dps and even factors in if youre moving or not. It also automatically distinguishes between AOE and ST dps and changes priority of suggestion accordingly depending on number of targets present.
Using Hekili or the addon you've featured is great if you don't have the rotation as muscle memory yet but the negative about them is people tend to tunnel vision on it and lose focus/control of their character by some margin.
i like the idea of you setting up rotation master for every class/spec at 80 and putting it into import links, im lazy and would much rather just copy it.
11:20 ca. Great idea for a video. One of the best ive heard in a while. Got potential to go "viral" too, if this really is the meta and people are gonna be using it for the rest of wrath.
I love this! I’ve been making weakauras to do similar things (highlighting frame selector / buttons) depending on cooldowns and debuffs. But this seems like a great start.
I have a lot of ideas for other options to add and if we can get them added (like prioritize other spells depending on how many mobs are near your character, showing the spell icon come up on the screen instead of just highlighting it on your bar, work on hostile targets only, allow you to use on items (potion cooldowns) as well, etc. Basically everything I’m already doing in my custom weakauras), I can eventually move away from having weakauras take care of this. It will also be a lot easier for the average user to set up compared to weakauras. If you ever need someone to help test anything out or are in need of some features to add, hit me up!
I think getting a rotation vid for each spec would be amazing!
Hey Scottejaye. I'd love so see this addon on feral dps (probably with bear weaving) and how to set it up with (f.e. savage roar use with 5 cp and when to use rip and rake if it's not on the target) and probably when to use bear would be best for bearweaving as procs of ooc might be troublesome. Especially cause we all know that feral is a great class, but maintaining all the skills can be horrible at the start. now that we probably need to bearweave aswell, it would only make the rotation harder. i guess this addon could come in pretty handy to maintain all buffs and debuffs to maximize dps without trouble. would be great to hear from you. Greetings and thank you already. Hans.
I used an addon in WotLK through Warlords called Event Horizon. I was a big fan of that because it showed cooldowns and dots all in one place and on a "linear time" scale. It didn't tell you what to do, but gave you all of the info you needed to make that decision fairly optimally. The 5-10 second look ahead on remaining times were great for helping you choose what to do next during your current cast/GCD. Gonna try to find that and get it going for LK again.
Great video, I started back in WoTLK and as a new player I used a rotation addon. Can't remember the name of it now but was very helpful for new players.
I think it would be a great idea if you could custom and link rotations for classes mainly for first time players or like me who ain't very good at other classes.
I especially think frost and unholy dk rotation would be amazing. I personally have always wanted to play dk but never got the hang of them and lost interest.
Anyway, great video, keep up the good work
This is very useful for alts and off-spec where you can't remember everything.. I used CLCRet back in WOTLK and Hekili on retail which does the same thing so, nothing new, but glad to see one for classic.
For sure make the setups for each spec. Even if you don’t use it forever, helps to learn rotations! Thanks Scotty!
That's a great idea , I have weak auras setup for live but didn't think about doing it for Wrath. This seems much more user-friendly. Thanks!!
This actually looks very usefull for casual players wanting to learn more about their rotation and understanding it abit more since they easily can analize and set up their own rotation. Instead of trying to understand their rotation while dpsing. Im gonna try this and try to get my guildies fiddle around with it. Hopefully making them more hyped about maximizing their rotation. The best performance comes from having fun improving
I'd like to see some in depth dungeon guides that include important boss mechanics, important trash pack abilities that need to be interrupted, buffs that can be stolen with mage spell steal, that sort of thing. I have been playing on a p-server recently and noticed a lot of people have very little idea what a bunch of mobs are doing and wipe to things like runecasters being able to get their fire buff off.
best of luck to this lad trying to replace weakauras.
weak auras is far more useful once you need to start tracking trinket and ability procs
Adding them is def. A good idea for getting newer players and or returning players a place to start. I know I was overwhelmed a bit when I started playing WoW and figuring out rotations and looking up guides; this is a simple & easy starting point and new & or returning players can expand and learn as they want from there.
Nice Clip Scotte . It would be interesting to see this set up for a class such as an SV hunter with explosive shot procs and other classes ( that have class / talent builds ) specific proc abilities and/or trinkets / Eng tricks to throw into the mix . To the max and beyond !!!
great add-on, is there an extension of it where it clicks the hotkey of the blinking spell, or even if it just clicks on the spell with mouse would be satisfactory. finally a solution for the hard decision making of what spell to use out of so many, now i can boost a char to almost max level, buy gold get good items, and have a solution to not be trash at it.
Super neat addon, while I don't think it's a good idea to do 500 5 min videos, maybe a 10-15 min video for each class covering all 3 specs in same video
I really needed this to play arcane mage in sunwell, THANKS
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I'm not actually a big fan of using to many add-ons because I feel like that takes a lot of skill out of it but I like how you explained it and pointed out the problems you had.
Making a series with a video for each class / spec is a great idea, but honestly It'd be easier on users if he just coded profile exporting/importing to the addon and you could make another video with links to your exports in the the description (or update this video with them). Either that or post yours in the description of each video for more content, or some variation of the two.
I would enjoy seeing your class / spec rotations setup in this.
This sounds cool.
Wotlk Feral druid rotation export when? :D
Yes please. It would help so much seeing a visual guide on how to do certain rotations.
Tried to use this addon, but did not have the same success that you did. I am sure I am doing something wrong. worked for a couple of hours trying to adjust conditions and other stuff and didn't have any luck. So thought I would cast my vote to encourage the creation of rotations for all classes. This was a great video and it works I am sure. But can't figure out what I am doing wrong.
Defiantly for all classes just quick videos would be cool. Especially for people who are returning and boosting characters
First off, you the man. Second, what addon is that by the mini map that has all the addons in one place instead of spread around the mini map?
Nice Vid as always mate:)! It would be awesome if you could setup a DK configuration for unholy and frost as soon as prepatch launches:D
bro this type of content is THE BEST! more UI stuff please
There is an addon called gnome seqencer that allows you to make one button rotations for almost any class. It is very good for people with disabilities in hands or fingers.
Cool Addon. Im messing around with my WAs quite a while. The combination with Masque will provide you with even more customisation!
All in all the addon seems pretty decent, I would have liked to see some memory usage as well.
Myself I am a man of many specs, and a lot of Them don’t see the playtime they should, so an advanced base combat rotation would be pretty nice - so content wise i would say go for it.
Fantastic and extremely helpful video! I play Affliction Lock and was wondering what your thoughts are on using this add on with my spec since it’s more of a spell priority as opposed to a spell rotation. What are your thoughts mate?
Seems like the same thing as TellMeWhen except that one queues up your globals so you always know what is next (similar to Hekili on retail), and this one doesn't seem to.
Seems alright you should do every class rotation down perfect even Dks haha
I would love a video series on how you'd set up the various class rotations! Priority for priests? ;) ha ha (given holy healer was ranked your most-fun-to-play healing class... doesn't hurt to ask!)
i would love to see your feral dps rotation addon export ! Also, would be cool to see your full addon list atm, your UI is similar to mine but just takes it to the next level :D
If you wanna cheat you can use pixelbot to make a 1 button macro using this with any class. It would just press whichever bind is highlighted for you while you hold down/spam any X button set in pixelbot :D I tried this by using conditional WA that only shows up 1 icon of what's the most optimal skill/spell to use and it worked too good. Not using it anymore though, for obv reasons.
Would be great to see a class specific video, especially for levelling. might be a good little aid while grinding on mobs... keep up the good work
I like the idea of you making videos to help people set up and use this addon for different specs and roations, i feel like some rotations and specs may be very complex and im curious to see if the addon has the features and can keep up with some specs and rotations.
Looking good! cant wait to try this out
Can i say:
Make my "Kick" button Blingy WHEN my Target is casting a very specific Spell ONLY with Rank=X?
WeakAuras and TellMeWhen are always going to be better for higher level play but this is nice for new players.
this is gonna be great for dks
I am having an issue at the point where you say "leave them as it is, so it will then use them rotationally in that order." Mine is just stuck on the first ability in the rotation.
Hey again Scottejaye! Quick question. In the pre purchase guide 70-71 at launch. Does it contain quest, where u just buy the items and hand em in later? so u can have more than 25 quest ready ?
don't need omni cc for cooldowns, just enable it unter interface->actionbars
Oh does that work for bartender as well? Ive always just used omni cc so that’s interesting cheers
I used "first come first serve" addon in WOTLK for Paladins. This is way more versatile.
it's a few months later but I'd certainly be interested in seeing your firemage and eleshaman setups for this addon
Hi, i have a problem, for a rotation, im a class, warlock, when i enter for a rotation master, when i put for a spell, i follow your steps,but, the rotation of the spells does not work for me, because it only stays at 1 and the others nothing.
Sorry for the stupid question but how do i get the condition "NOT your target has XXXXX"? I get the NOT-part of it. But where in the world do i get the second part of it?I just can't seem to find it. I would really appreciate so help on that one.
Great video! Could I ask what mini map addon you utilise, and how it keeps all the add on icons 'tidy' in its own box? Cheers
I would like a video for each of the rotations. Looks like a great addon.
Cool addon and nice showcase! Any idea on how well it could be implemented on speccs like enhancement shaman in wotlk that have no set rotation but more like a dynamic priority list depending on proccs and stuff? Like, can I tell the addon to always highlight lightning bolt as soon as I'm on 5 stack of maelstrom weapon, for example?
I could see these being helpful, especially for people who might be changing class. It will give them a good starting point.
in regards to the addon only recognizing there is 1 ability isnt it because in wrath you cant downrank anyways? so you only have 1 of the spells to begin with? if that makes sense.
i can appreciate this as assistance for learning all the buttons w mouse and keyboard when first starting but man is it braindead as just something people would use all the time
Do u still have a export link to ur Druid weak auras. I like the fade and shit it has, it’s super nice.
Does the addon recognise or can you tell it to do a different rotation for single target vs 3 mobs vs full aoe depending on how many mobs you are in combat with?
Also having cooldowns on there could mean your addon wont show you your rotation unless you pop bloodlust.
I imagine this will be a great tool for learning classes or rarely used alts/specs and videos showing how to set it up and highlighting its limitations if there are any would be very useful
Hey mate, great video and yeah 100% would love a video for each class on rotation. I tend to bounce around to what ever the guild needs, would be very helpful to have a copy paste to help.
Honestly even if you made them for patreon only Id join it.
Keep up the great content mate.
ngl took a minute to figure out some of the settings for pally seal twisting but i eventually got it. Pretty nice clean scratch programming if/and style setup. Was most curious if there was gonna be a weapon swing remaining, to my delight there was so Rm seal twisting works. glowing seal of martyr at .5 sec wep swing and judgment cd > 2 working.
Please do the guides for each classes! Currently pulling my hair out trying to sort out a shadow priest rotation! lol
Its actually a great idea to make these guides they will help a lot of people out there ..your content is amazing keep it up bro
Thanks dude. A new cheat code I never knew about Bartender that will help me stay in rotation for pvp.
Loving all these videos while frothing at the mouth for prepatch. Keep it up!!
When I install the Rotation Master Add-on using either the provided link in the description or using curse forge is it not showing up in my game. I've installed, uninstalled and re-installed several times and reloaded my UI after each installation. Is there something I could be doing wrong? Thanks!
Looking forward to seeing the three DK specs. Great work.
Keep up the good work! Also the series with rotation would and links would be appreciated. Mainly cause it would help myself out as a casual nowadays..keep it real!
Pretty cool. But yeah you can probably grab a WA off wago for any spec.
Hi my Rotation Master is still not having the glow effect around seals even tho i have the same exact settings with not buffed by that seal.
Got this today and started using it on the DK, can't get the addon to correctly indicate when to use icy touch and plague strike. even with conditions set, it skips the 2nd spell in the rotation. If icy touch is first, it skips plague strike and vice versa
Great video. I would love a similar one on how to use weakauras to its full potential
The addon looks great, i wanna ask would this work also for servers like Warmane and for the HD client ?
I haven't seen this addressed anywhere but: How will the healing power to spell power conversion work? Will my existing spell healing number be my spell power or my spell damage number?
Effectively if I'm say a priest/druid heals main and want to go shadow/balance to lvl. Will I be able to do this just with subpar 2ndry stats or will I have rly bad damage to?
Addon looks sick! Well done by creator!
I swear I constantly make minor mistakes playing Hunter, even with all the tools at my disposal. Its deceptively complex and requires both muscle memory and adaptive rhythm. Ever since the one button macro was ruined I think a lot of Hunters are having the same challenges.
Hunter is pretty easy in Wrath, you still use macros for kill command, md and other stuff. Basically you’re just spamming steady shot and using chimera + aimed shot on cooldown
Especially for the Dot classes we need a timer on how long the dots are ticking, so its good for classes like ret pal, but not so much for affli lock or boomkin i guess
Adding on here for boomkin specifically, it would be a nice set of training wheels for managing eclipse procs and not wasting a cast or partial cast as one phase ends, or the next one begins.
Crazy good content lately Scotte. Thanks!
following your instructions i flame shock and it won't move to next spell in rotation even when flame shock is up on enemy. send help
Im leveling a sm/ds lock and I see a lot of guides say throw corruption first but wouldn’t it make more sense to throw agony first for the ramp damage?
Would be cool if this could be used for feral but idk see how it could be
The addon seems really powerful but I haven't been able to find profiles online.
I wonder if this addon is smart enough to consider factors like swing timers. I think it goes away in wrath, but thinking about hunter auto-shot clipping as an example. Or even ret pally twisting. Again, not an issue for much longer, but there are probably other things like this that will come up in wotlk.
Looks great mate cheers
I have tried several times and still can not get this to work. If you could do individual videos of each class and slow it down that might help. Please show how you do conditions alot slower
Would love a video on this ford feral cat, hunter, warlock, and warrior for wotlk
This is very cool and made with good logic!
I think that would be a cool video series .
Will Bartender support changing bars when you switch spec do you think?
Can this be used to track Eclipse for Boomkins? And also can you set it up to such detail that you can create conditions for Moonfire and Insect Swarm? E.g. If Eclipse just proc-ed and DoTs arent up, refresh Insect Swarm for Solar, Moonfire for Lunar etc.
Would love to know the combat and assassination rotations you recommend. I am hype to main rogue this time around for wotlk
Cool idea. I personally doesn`t need it but I can think of some guild members which it might help to be better.