How NASA gets Credit for ISRO's Moon Water Discovery
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- While CHandrayaan 3 is on the horizon, this story , a rather controversial one on who exactly discovered water on the moon is a bit ignored. Chandrayaan 1 gave humanity the discovery, but it is a awkward story how NASA's M3 instrument and ISRO's CHACE both found it. a sad frustrating story. #ISRO #chandrayaan3
full interview on @GareebScientistShunya - • Ex ISRO Scientist talk...
chapters:
00:00 - the basic story fo credit and allegations
01:48 - How a mass spectrometer works easy explanation
02:22 - How chandrayaan detected water
05:50 - the struggle to recognise its success
08:52 - contrarian views
Sources:
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[2] - www.researchgate.net/profile/...
[3] - repository.ias.ac.in/14506/1/3...
[4] - • ISRO Fan's reaction to...
[5] - www.researchgate.net/publicat...
[6] - www.telegraphindia.com/india/...
[7] - www.researchgate.net/publicat...
[8] - www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/sci...
[9] - • When Scientists Found ...
[10] - www.science.org/doi/10.1126/s...
[11] - • Mangalyaan Reveals Wor...
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बस इतना और बता दे की
चारोँ वेद या एक वेद ही सही
और कौन पुराण तथा उपनिषद पढ़ा था ?
नहीं पढ़ा क्या ? तो बता "सबको" ?
@@arun.mirdhabhai Teri baate padhkar Aisa lagta nahi ki tune kabhi koi kitab padhi hai
In-situ means without breaking the vacuum not whan jakr krte ho.. but yeah thats sad truth we were not even given credit for the invention of optic fiber.. and this is the another example.
Hay, Is it true that ISRO engineers who built the launch pad for chandrayaan 3, did got paid for last 17months.
What you say?
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Name gareeb laakin kaam ameer waale 😁
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bhai kam se kam sceince padha hua rehta to tuje wo information jo already published hai back in 2010 ek youtuber ke help se nai dekhna padta. Anyways yaha IQ itni kam ho chuke hai
Bhai ye ajki kahani nai hai,humara to sadiyo se kat ta aa raha hai,einstien ki theory of relativity ka 1 main part hai jisko hum bose-einstien equation ke naam se jante hai,usme einstein ka kaam itna tha ki wo india ake kolkata me 1 indian genius bose se milta hai or uska equation print krne ke liye 1 shart rakhta hai,ki hum is equation ko share karenge,isko hum dono ne milke dhunda hai,ye to internet aya or indians thoda jaage isly ye sb bahar b aa raha hai,is dunya ko modern banane me agar kisi ka sbse jyda hath hai to wo sirf indians hai or wo b leftist indians nai,rightist,pooja pathh krne wale,culture ko manne walo ka,leftist sirf gandh faila skte hai or us gandh ko fancy naam deskte,leftists yaa to apko cheater banate hai yaa hitler
Arey tu college main kbhi padha?
Once a legend said, what we achieved is our achievement, if someone doesn't believe we must not make them believe because we know we have achieved this.... Bharat Mata ki Jai 🇮🇳
Bhai ye ajki kahani nai hai,humara to sadiyo se kat ta aa raha hai,einstien ki theory of relativity ka 1 main part hai jisko hum bose-einstien equation ke naam se jante hai,usme einstein ka kaam itna tha ki wo india ake kolkata me 1 indian genius bose se milta hai or uska equation print krne ke liye 1 shart rakhta hai,ki hum is equation ko share karenge,isko hum dono ne milke dhunda hai,ye to internet aya or indians thoda jaage isly ye sb bahar b aa raha hai,is dunya ko modern banane me agar kisi ka sbse jyda hath hai to wo sirf indians hai or wo b leftist indians nai,rightist,pooja pathh krne wale,culture ko manne walo ka,leftist sirf gandh faila skte hai or us gandh ko fancy naam deskte,leftists yaa to apko cheater banate hai yaa hitler
aise faltu batto se hi aj humari sone ki chidiya ki bhik mangne ki nobat aa gayi thi ye sab faltu chize chodo aur apni achievements ka credit lo
@@logohub1234 bhai yei wo propoganda wali story hai,einstien india aya ho yaa nai ye important nai hai,par bose ne apna paper usko bheja ta,jisko publish krne ke liye einstien ne ye shart rakhi ti,tabi uska naam bose einstien theory rakha gaya,warna agar einstien ki theory ti to usme bose ka naam hi kyon dala,tum jaise over educated log hi shrap hai is desh ke.liye,or ramanujan ke time pe to bharat khud ghulami me ta to wo kya krte,or agar westrn countries itni hi knowledge able ti to kyon humare scientists ko marwaya,nambi narayan ke sath kya hua,or unke jaise kam se kam 100 scientists bina kisi karan ke maare gaye hai or wo b high level jo india ke cryogenic engine pe kaam krte te,kaise india ka cryogenic engine 25 saal delay hua,kyon 1975 me pehla nueclear bomb bangaya ta par uske baad 1999 tk test nai hopaya,bhai tere username se pata chal ra hai tu kon hoga,jis din se mughal aye te or 2014 tk is desh ke acche logo ne sirf jute khaye hai or maare gaye hai,jb bose ne apna paper bheja ta tb einstien ne usko bulaya ta waha,wo angrej hai bina mtlb ke to thukte b nai hai,or bose ko usne apna assistant rkhne ko b kaha ta par bose ne mana krdya ta,or noble prize ki baat mat kr,nobel prize pura ka pura politics se bhara hai,inko mother teresa ko peace prize dene ka hota hai,jbki wo sirf christian missonary ti,inko gandhi nai dikha ta peace ke liye,jisne lakho hindu marwa diye sirf peace ke liye,gandhi se humari dushmani hoskti hai usne jo kiya hinduo ke sath,par ultimately to wo peace loving ta na,ye to congress sb bech ke kha gai ti 65 saal me isly ye sb bahar nai aya,or ab bahar aa raha hai,or agar gyan lena hai to sai se liya kr warna mat bola kr thik hai,is desh ne dunya ko jo diya hai na wo ye dunya milake b nai krpayi,ajbi china ke khilaf corona ke baad koi khada hua to wo sirf hum te,agr india ki vaccines or dawaiya nai hoti na,kam se kam adhi se jyda dunya saaf hojati thik ha
that's not how it works. you have to take patent for your invention, or you wont be able to produce, sell or use it. You will have to buy it.
@@raiideas andh-bhakt population ko kaun samjhaye?? 🙂
I met maqbool sir in University. my friend worked with him. he was such an enthusiastic and inspirational guy
1 like = 1 Prayer for Chace
Hello Neel bhaiya!
@@babayada2015 Hello! 👋🏼
@@palindrome4737 how did you used this logo ? 😳
@@jethiya7990 we are channel members so....
Such things happen in science. No need to worry. What matters is that we tried and learned alot from it. The thirst of knowledge has made us go to the moon and beyond not the competition with other countries.
True
yes this way you will keep get getting trolled for your space organization, this is what i call typical gandhi mindset😂😂
@@shivam_nagar69 who tf trolled us for our space organization?
yep ur right this is not an era of competition its an era of collaboration
@@YourParas collaborating mades us have the international space station
Thank you so much bhaiya for making us gareeb people aware about such issues. I become SO ENRAGED whenever USA or any other European country takes credit for anything that any Asian country does first. 60-70% articles that I read on Google all said that it was NASA who discovered water first on moon LCROSS in 2009, completely ignoring Chandrayan 1. Then there is also Veritasium who, in his video about water on moon, just said "scientists had found water on moon" instead of actually crediting the people who actually did, while people would have been blaring their achievements out loud if any Western country had actually done it.
aah, sahi baat bhai 😤
Bhai ye ajki kahani nai hai,humara to sadiyo se kat ta aa raha hai,einstien ki theory of relativity ka 1 main part hai jisko hum bose-einstien equation ke naam se jante hai,usme einstein ka kaam itna tha ki wo india ake kolkata me 1 indian genius bose se milta hai or uska equation print krne ke liye 1 shart rakhta hai,ki hum is equation ko share karenge,isko hum dono ne milke dhunda hai,ye to internet aya or indians thoda jaage isly ye sb bahar b aa raha hai,is dunya ko modern banane me agar kisi ka sbse jyda hath hai to wo sirf indians hai or wo b leftist indians nai,rightist,pooja pathh krne wale,culture ko manne walo ka,leftist sirf gandh faila skte hai or us gandh ko fancy naam deskte,leftists yaa to apko cheater banate hai yaa hitler
This is too much exaggerated, no country takes such credit.. Please come out of your imagination, NASA has found lots of stuff just mere water on moon. Be matured enough.
@@rahulsharma-ht7ut bro too much truth, I'm crying, I wish we had more people like you in our country 😭. Kisi ne sach kaha hai, insaan haarta hai to apno se hi. Hamare apne deshwaasiyon ne hi jab bhi hamse gaddaari Kari hai hamare desh ne tabhi bhugta hai
@@wellbeing6198 I am not a fan of imagining my country lose in this tech race of new era. I'm speaking the truth
I don't know but I always knows and found in articles, in books (Physics Maharashtra state board on book cover ) even in multiple foreign videos that ice was discovered by India's chandrayan.
Thanks
Same bro..
kyuki wo payload ya instruments chandrayan ke upar the
Here the credits can be taken jointly by both org. but an attempt to completely fade the chandrayaan -1 from credits should NOT be accepted!
Absolutely high-class video with Syed sir's interview. That answered a lot of my doubts and question. Chandrayaan discovered water on moon. we'll take it. Salute to MIP and CHACE.
wth is founded
@@doublecrossed9925 corrected.
Thanks. You are doing a great job.
So nice of you
As I use mass spectrometry in our lab , I know it's a huge set up, required continuous energy supply and sometimes problem also happen we fix it in to our lab...but in moon maintaining this huge instrument with zero trouble it is really fascinating. But now a days I saw potable Mass instrument also come but I don't know abou this too much
If you don't mind answering
What lab do you work and what background education you have?
I'm currently filling my college Councelling, and want to get into such fields, pls let me know.
Bhai ye ajki kahani nai hai,humara to sadiyo se kat ta aa raha hai,einstien ki theory of relativity ka 1 main part hai jisko hum bose-einstien equation ke naam se jante hai,usme einstein ka kaam itna tha ki wo india ake kolkata me 1 indian genius bose se milta hai or uska equation print krne ke liye 1 shart rakhta hai,ki hum is equation ko share karenge,isko hum dono ne milke dhunda hai,ye to internet aya or indians thoda jaage isly ye sb bahar b aa raha hai,is dunya ko modern banane me agar kisi ka sbse jyda hath hai to wo sirf indians hai or wo b leftist indians nai,rightist,pooja pathh krne wale,culture ko manne walo ka,leftist sirf gandh faila skte hai or us gandh ko fancy naam deskte,leftists yaa to apko cheater banate hai yaa hitler
Bhai reply
@@rahulsharma-ht7ut theory of relativity ka bose Einstein condensate se koi lena dena nahi h or bose ka naam Einstein se pehle isiliye h ki unhone ise pehle khoja tha
@@abhisheksodhi1622 oo albert einstien ke tatte,zindgi nikal gai science padte padte,larger picture me bose-einstien condensation theory,particle ki theory se related hai or particle ki study einstine krta hi isly ta kyki 1 grand unified theory bana paye and theory of relativity b us grand unified theory ka hi 1 hissa hai
Clicked, then was about to close it around 5 seconds after it started, but instantly addicted because of such simple explanations of complex systems. Subscribing and sharing! जय भारत 🇮🇳🙌🚩🙏
it's a complicated feeling...
but that is how we humans have built out society to follow human made rules and systems.
It's a grey area, and being an indian, provokes a complex feeling :(
but anyway, it's a win win for humanity :)
If NASA says it's discovered water on moon, it's the biggest joke of the DECADE 😂. We Indians know the TRUTH.
Big salute to all who are working on this missions to make India proud and gareeb scientist team for this wonderful video 🔥👍 Is all instruments indigenously developed? 🤔. Hope more Indian private firms should come in space exploration and join hands with ISRO.
we are far from that dream, it will take a decade for an actual private space sector in india, funny many rich people live in india but they aren't enthusiastic about india's development in any field
If that top 1% of india really cared we would have achieved a lot more we can even imagine
These are all minor mistakes and not strong enough to raise doubts on discovery by chandrayan which is NASA is trying to blow up
*First resolve the controversy that they really landed on moon or not*. If it was so easy to send people to moon before *60 years* then why are they unable to send manned mission to moon with so much technological advances and information. Are their brains stuck with time?
Y didn't they have proper safety precautions in manned missions after so many years when the shuttle with kalpana chawla failed?
I think Chase data is a great achievement for ISRO and also helped scientist to research more based on this data. No matter who publish the data first or takes the credit ,one thing is sure that even NASA knows that ISRO is very capable of doing unimaginable stuff and obviously in very less budget
You are right, this is one thing that NASA has always been very impressed by (and even the sometimes hostile American media has reported it widely). I only wash NASA could learn a little bit from ISRO's frugality considering how much SLS is supposed to cost!
@@ALOKKUMAR-vs5mz Both NASA and ISRO are Gov funded so why would they need to attract investors??
Absolute Genius! thank you for being knowledgeable, and humble enough to bring that knowledge to us! found you late but will be with you forever.
Really Insightful. I appreciate your work man. Keep spreading knowledge about space science.
Thank you so much bhaiya for this nice explanation in simple words, very lucky to find you 😊
Yesterday in European news, they all mentioned Indian Space Research was the first to confirm the presence of water. Not discovered, but confirmed.
Well, it would be more accurate to say confirm as people expected the outcome
So good explanation about CHACE and Ch1 ... excellent 😊
This type of work takes a lot of attempts and practical application. Nation should support scientists.
ప్రపంచం ఎప్పటినుండో మన భారతీయ అన్వేషణ లను తమవి గ చెప్పుకొని మురిసిపోతున్నాయి. యిదీ అంతే
Their morality,ethics, philosophy only limited in books.
I really appreciate your efforts for this valuable content you give🙏❤️❤️ but sometimes I really got problems in understanding the things 🥲. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Thank you for this - keep doing what you do brother.
Thank you for increasing our knowledge ❤
Excellent.
No words for the content, explaination and value you are delivering.
Have shared your channel with many.
Saadhuvaad
ShivstePanthaan🙏🏽
Koi nahi samay ke saath sab proove hoga. Satyendra nath bose ki research bhi Einstein ke naam se publish hui thi
Loved your video man. Great job 👍🏻
Great channel for isro aspirants like me.❤❤🎉
Thanks for subtitles...❤
Ram correction is very basic thing, don't understand how we missed.
But without correcting ,concentration values will change but water detection yes or no answer will not change.
Thanks for adding subtitles😊
*No matter if those westerners accept it or not, India was most advanced in the past and it will be in the future, Jai Shree Ram!* 🗿🚩
We should follow such valuable RUclips channel
Weldon work n Weldon channel...v. good
This video is good n ur hardwork.
Keep making this type of content.
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I just found this guy just now and I love this guy already
Very knowledgeable interview with ISRO scientist Syed !! Thank you for this wonderful video !!
Even ISRO is not sure , and science is depend on accuracy not may be or may not , so plz ISRO don't claim that u found water on moon , but best wishes for further mission, proud to be Indian
Bhaiya🙏
Aap Science ke alag hi Deewane ho 🙏🔥❤️
you are the only science entertainment channel with real science
Bhutt hi achaa explain kiyaa eaisly smjhh aaa gya sbbb niceee broo
Good information, thank you for such a decent and informative RUclips channel.
what a polite voice with enriched information......... hatts off to you bro
Hoping to see young scientists in ISRO
Best Indian RUclips channel about science
Thanks for beautiful knowledge.
Some basic information about what Syad Maqbool ahemad said in this video....
dq/dt = Charge (measured in Ampere)
Deci 10 res to minus 1,
centi 10 res to minus 2,
mili 10 res to minus 3,
micro 10 res to minus 6,
nano 10 res to minus 9,
Pico 10 res to minus 12,
femto 10 res to minus 15,
Ato 10 res to minus 18 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
One small correction , QMS Analyzes Mass to charge ratio not the mass . For example if N2 gas is present it might get single or doubly charged(less likely). So we would notice current at 28 and 14 both with 28 being much more prominent.
Also it is very common to see water vapour unless the system has been "flushed" properly . Not sure about space but that has been my observation while working on it .
I agree with your point. Possibility of molecules carrying doubly charge from EI sourceis quite low.
I also agree with your point
To the point bhaia , ISRO US THE ONLY ORGANISATION WHICH NEVER TAKES CREDIT FOR ITS DOING !
Thank you so much bhai for this type of precious content 💐
Congratulations brother for ISRO
Love your description.
You are the best channel for space knowledge, I am sure everyone can agree!
True investigative science journalism
The chace is a scinetific phenomon in itself....this level of Mass spectroscopy....I wonder can it have a wide use of applications especially for Exterior planetory systems...which ISRO has yet to venture..
Amazing explanation 👍👍
Jai Hind, Jai Maharashtra!
Hope this mission becomes a great success for future space research!
❤
Still proud of our scientists and engineers
Proud of you bro for such great content
I am 18 year old I am interested in Rocket, Satellite basically in Space and I love watching your videos, but a lot of terms you use in your video's that I don't understand. Please make a series in which you explain space related terms.
@@aakankinskywalker384 Thank You brother for the motivation.
Best of luck for your future too.
Thank you so much for this video !
Wow. Keep it up we need someone who make knowledgeable video in the world of reels .
Scientific explaination in Layman's Term. 🤩
Bhaiya jaise physics me jaise cyclotron me ham particles ki velocity control kr sakte hai vaise hi wo quad rod kaam kr rahi thi kya apne chase me ❤❤
Amazing video man, quite informative 👍
"Gyaan ki garibi" made me laugh😅
Because you are the only Indian youtuber who represent the videos in a natural and Scientific way.
4:59 Correction to the subtitles
dq by dt (Change in charge per unit time or rate of change of charge is current)
Proud of the scientist shown in the video
Isro did one very good thing to disconnect from NASA. A line from from my favorite movie for my Indian friends. Isro agar NASA NASA karta toh satyanasa hojata
Best of luck bhi proud of you 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Thank you for this information sir!
Tomorrow is OUR DAY. No nasa or ESA will get in OUR way!
Nasa helped in CY 3
@@sidharthcs2110 I forgot that in my comment..
Let us also appreciate the contribution of all MSEs associated in their success.
Found your amazing channel on 14 July 2023 !
Lots of love for your effort
Good knowledge thank you❤❤
Best way of explanation some things got bouncer for head but still its best
Thanks for sharing your fair assessment of the situation, and a big shoutout to you for acknowledging that we should avoid creating an echo chamber in our pursuit of science! 🙌
Thank you 🖖🏼🖖🏼🖖🏼🖖🏼
Yes definitely, all sides are important
These are all minor mistakes and not strong enough to raise doubts on discovery by chandrayan which is NASA is trying to blow up
*First resolve the controversy that they really landed on moon or not*. If it was so easy to send people to moon before *60 years* then why are they unable to send manned mission to moon with so much technological advances and information. Are their brains stuck with time?
Y didn't they have proper safety precautions in manned missions after so many years when the shuttle with kalpana chawla failed?
This channel seems to be american bot😂😂 and funding such channel.. one minute silence to the donor
@@birundha27 the reason NASA didn't try doing another Apollo program in which 12 men walked on moon is they don't want to waste 200 billion dollars for doing the same thing and they have already won the space race. Soviets had gotten over it. Kalpana issue was different.
Thanks for the video.
Sir eagerly waiting for your video ❤
5:01 The caption should be dq/dt not d cube. Small correction. Very nice video😉
Koi dikkat nai bhai lene do credit. Chhote mote credit inko lene do , i know ISRO will far more successful in future and will make even more discoveries in future.
Many things to find ahead so isro and us should learn from this and always publish asap after checking all the facts
arey pehle paper likhna sikho then publish karoge
We proudly present CHACE🎉🎉❤❤
2:44 it's look like velocity selector in class 12 I.e V=E/B but concept will be that charge particle get a force by magnetic field as qvbsintheta
Unfortunately today such ground-breaking scientific achievements have become a source of hegemony. What if both the data from M3 and CHACE were combined to provide super robust evidence and the credits could have been shared. One such fundamental discovery in materials science was line defects called "dislocations" which was independently found by GI Taylor and E Orowan with M Polanyi in 1934 and today all 3 are given credit for that.
Very insightfull
proud on ISRO
Thanks for this amazing video, I am pretty sure you must have put days of reasearch to make it 🙏
So nice of you, thank you
Wow ! An Indian RUclipsr making explanatory videos on science... Love that❤
In every Indian books, publication write that India discovered water on moon.
India will never do it. Because we support foreign countries to credit. We are destroying our own knowledge & information
Bro you are the best youtuber i have ever seen on RUclips
We are learning universe, so never bother about small humans respecting u or not. Just find the miracle of this giant cosmos continuously
good that whole video was not clickbait
More power to you bhai
Bro can you tell me which mic do you use ? I really like its quality and thinking to buy it. Please help me out😊❤❤❤
Sir just one suggestion write Nasa and Isro above on your thumbnail because when I got your video in suggestion I saw only isro not nasa because it was hidden by length of your video I hope you understood what I said
YOur are doing a great job bro... keep it up. also please add english subtitles bro... many people are watching this video where we don't know hindi. plz add eng subtitiles
Thank you, Already added.. Almost all videos have
Sir ne bola hum hain mtlb hua h, hum to fully support krenge, Paani to humne he nikala.