I 100% agree with this video. I was talking to one of my casual friends about what anime’s I watched and I brought up Evangelion and he was like I heard about it do you recommend? and it’s like such a difficult question to answer because i know he’ll probably end up enjoying it but then again it’s a show that’s very different and I didn’t know if he’d like all the psychological stuff. and it was just much easier to tell him nah rather than explain that. I also feel like because as people in general we find it hard to tell others about our mental health and the entire show revolves around that so I felt like me telling him I recommend it is almost like me telling yeah I’m not doing to well mentally which isn’t something you usually say to a not very close friend
Thats a very interesting point, i haven't thought in that what we like in media could potentially reflect on how we are feeling mentally, which with that in mind can be really rough if a person is struggling. Thanks for the insight, i hope your'e doing great man!
I watched Evangelion at a very particular time in my life, at the lowest of my depression. It left a huge impact on me and I still cherish the time I spent with it. Eva also was the first anime I REALLY got interested in, and was my gateway into Japanese media, more specifically, mecha anime and kaiju/hero tokusatsu (live action works with heavy usage of special effects). What I'm trying to get at here is, while Eva is GREAT, it's not as unique as people may like to think, as it is heavily derivative of works (like most things are) such as Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Gundam series, Space Runaway Ideon, Mazinger Z, and Devilman. And the whole idea that "Evangelion is not about the robots" is kinda disingenuous, considering said robots do play a huge role in the story; it feels more like when people say this, they are comparing it to their idea of what mecha is, rather than actually comparing it to similar shows. In conclusion, if we're talking about mecha anime that are too controversial to recommend, GaoGaiGar is really good but holy shit all those flashing lights oof ouch
you might be right - i also tried to come over the point of what mech animes actually are, counter what people think they are, but maybe should have been more firm on that point. I have not seen the show GaoGaiGar but if you recommend it i'll definitely give it a go. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I hope you're doing better!
Evangelion is closer to an earlier project that Hideaki Anno worked on along with the entire GAINAX crew: "0800: War In The Pocket"...made in 1988, it's ALSO a sobering deconstruction of the powerfantasy-dominated, Mecha/Military genres, as well... Mature works like this are simply not recommended. To paraphrase the creator's sentiments on the Anime Fandoms: 'I live in a nation of children. Adults read pornography on the subway in full view of actual children'(It's disgusting) Hideaki Anno Themes touched in his OTHER PRODUCTIONS: "Gunbuster"(1988; "Ender's Game" homange/PRO-Japanese Imperialism?!) & "Wings of Honneamise"(1987)(a rebuttal of Japanese Racism/Imperialism!) Also check out his Liveaction works like "Ritual" and "Love & Pop"(WOW!) OR, his latter cameo directing/acting in 2nd half of "Gurren Lagann" and "FLCL"(he is the "fat housecat" with big testicles) "Evangelion" is actually UNDERAPPRECIATED. It's not some fluke. It's a culmination of a valid Human Condition message, by a Kubrickian master of his craft.🤷🏿♂
@@ynraider While it does seem some Gainax staff worked on Gundam 0080, Hideaki Anno himself did not. You may be confusing it for his contribution to the mechanical design in Char's Counterattack. As for everything else you bring up.... I don't care? Anno isn't some mastermind creating the best works imaginable; he's just a guy who likes cool stuff. We're talking about the director of the live action Cutie Honey, the guy who did motion capture for Shin Ultraman. Let's be real.
To be fair most mecha anime isn't fully about the robots. You really need to check out the original Mobile Suit Gundam. If you don't have the time for a series, the shorter movie trilogy version is a fine alternative.
I think msg thunderbolt is a much better starting point for people since it's only a couple movies rn, not knocking the og series though. The movies however, I don't think do a great job of condensing it
MSG is a bit hypocritical, it's ALLEGEDLY about "the realistic trauma of warfare", but ends with Armuro becoming a god of death(Gundam ace pilot) in a love triangle with an elite newtype subspecies(EUGENICS). And don't forget the "Lost Cause/Confederacy" mythos snuck in as the Zeon Faction. It's pretty toxic when compared to the good UC titles: 0080 & 0083... MORE criticism about the writing should have appeared by now...
The way I got into Eva was through a video essay called “The Curse of Evangelion” which I saw mentioned in a gag in a video by Deoxide. It made me want to watch the series (and to an extent, EoE) just to understand its messaging fully.
little correction: End of Eva was made because of fan backlash, not because the creator or publisher wanted another ending. The Rebuild movies are that "creator wants it different" ending, after he got over his personal struggles and depression.
Didn't they run out of budget before the ending of the original series? And as a result the final episodes were unpolished and unfinished right? So that's why End of Evangelion was made?
Thats also what i had read that they were pushing it because they were afraid they couldn't make a profit, and then when it was a hit they brought it back - but i might be mistaken@@lukastardieu7343
i discovered via a friend a long time ago, he was one of those chill edgy kids and when the anime came out in Netflix i finally decided to give it a go, and boy it was something, even tho i was so shaken by the first 26 episodes and didnt get anything of the ending watching the movie was the fucking worse, seeing all that carnage and all. keep in mind that i struggled with something similar to what was happening to shinji at the time but i just undertood it rather recently after looking more deeply into it but still, it was beautiful and i do not regret it one bit
Eva's super funny to me cuz people always praise it for the wrong things, the deconstructions of mech anime attributed to it are things the original Mobile Suit Gundam should be credited for over 20 years prior to Evangelion (inspiring Anno himself heavily, Anno in one interview citing CCA, the first Gundam movie that wasn't a compilation of episodes, as defining his generation), but that doesn't at all diminish the genius of Evangelion or its quality, and it's the series' unique amazing qualities that I wish more people praised.
MSG is a bit hypocritical, it's ALLEGEDLY about "the realistic trauma of warfare", but ends with Armuro becoming a god of death(Gundam ace pilot) in a love triangle with an elite newtype subspecies(EUGENICS). And don't forget the "Lost Cause/Confederacy" mythos snuck in as the Zeon Faction. It's pretty toxic when compared to the good UC titles: 0080 & 0083...
MORE criticism about the writing should have appeared by now...
GAINAX worked on CCA AND 0080, alongside 0083, those are the top 3 UC Gundams... Anno is a mecha fan of the utmost caliber, seeing as how he DESIGNED some of the msot iconic Gundam units as well! His inspiration from Gundam, was the machines, NOT the Human Condition narratives, as he was PRESENT when those were crafted! And Tomino/Anno were BOTH inspired by Gao Nagai! Only Anno carried the torch.
@@ynraider Ah, so you haven't seen any of it. Fun. MSG is about love, human connection, interaction and communication, the trauma meme is a part of a lot of Gundam stories, but that's not what the franchise is actually about. As Gundam X had explained, and as was always the case to everyone who was paying attention, Newtypes aren't a subspecies, they're random people who just have the power of extreme empathy, which is all that being a newtype is, y'know, the communication theme, newtypes being the next step in humanity's evolution is explicitly and specifically Zeon propaganda, Zeon being an allegory for Nazi Germany which, yes, used Fascist talking points, obviously. Being a newtype, crucially, isn't genetic, aside from the fact that every human might be a newtype. As for Zeon's "mythos", it's a parallel to pre-Nazi Germany's complaints of economic exploitation that's been happening for decades prior to Hitler's rise, who used said fact to gain power. Also, uh. Amuro being good at killing is at no point presented as particularly good, aside from the fact that it helps him not die it's taken an extreme toll on him. It's funny you ever bring up Stardust Memory, as it contains pretty much the only instance in the series of a character who spouts Zeon's Fascist propaganda without ever being challenged on it, Anavel Gato. I warmly recommend you watch some MSG, you'll be very happily surprised with its actual messaging on these issues.
@@ynraider Gainax is exclusively credited as working on CCA and G Gundam. Anno never designed a single Gundam or Mobile Suit, his biggest contribution was designing background ships for CCA. The future president of Gainax wrote the screenplay for 0080, but wasn't a member of Gainax at the time. There is zero evidence of Gainax working on Stardust Memory in any capacity. Anno had cited Tomino as one of, if nothing his biggest inspiration multiple times, citing CCA as the movie that defined his generation. He had nothing to do with the writing process of any Gundam series, as stated, his contributions were entirely minimal, as were Gainax's in general.
the cinematography of the show is pretty amazing too. I LOVE the elevator scene with rei and azuka where they take a full minute for a almost completely still scene depicting the contrast between azuka at the peak of her mental break down, pretending like she doesn't care, while rei actually doesn't care.
If you like Evangelion, I'd recommend "Revolutionary Girl Utena", Kaworu has been rumored to be based off of Kunihiko Ikuhara(director of Utena), Anno,I believe, denies this.... but eh, I dunno man... the two directors are pretty damn close as friends, they even went to the bathhouse together, soaked in some warm tub of water and talked about their life and personal problems... hey now... doesn't that sound familiar? Shinji and Kaworu bath scene...? Anyways though. Check out Utena, it's a very amazing show(when or if u have the time).
Hideaki Anno began pitching Evangelion in 1993, at bars frequented by Otaku/veterans in Anime production. FUNFACT: 1)Allegedly, "Serial Experiments Lain" was birthed when other creatives overheard Anno's psychological/psychotic rants for funding. 2)Once Evangelion became a massive success, SEL/Cowboy Bebop/GiTS/darker/mature shows were greenlit!(not allegedly, the creators confirmed this; EvaGeeks Forums had interviews) Evangelion is a literal REVOLUTION in Anime Industry standards. "Revolutionary Anime Evangelion"!🤣
Introducing NGE to people is like introducing people to Drakengard/Nier (video games by Yoko Taro, shares writing and themes with H. Anno). Not only do these pieces of media go heavily into dark stuff and symbolism, as you said, but also they require patience and multiple viewings. Both are open to interpretation, and I suspect people today don't have the patience for OG NGE and Drakengard 1. I could be wrong, though. Which leads me to Rebuild. I've yet to watch anything after 2.22. I dunno... I never got into it.
I think its a really interesting take that people might not have the patience for it cuz that could be very real, i definitely see a trend where people prefer more shorter content than longer where you most likely need more rewatches
Thanks for responding. But yes; the average attention span has gone down from 12 seconds to 4-5. Also, people seem more intrigued by loud noises, over-dramatic flashes and scenes, plus instant gratification. Older media simply doesn't do it for them (mostly). It's why it's difficult (for me) to introduce older series and games to people.@@therealfizzberg
Don't watch the "Reibuilds"; they are just a way for Anno/Studio Kara to: 1) employ his formerly enslaved friends who were abused by GAINAX rapist takeover(look the cases up! horrific) 2) DESTROY the Evangelion franchise as a brand. A "mercy killing" by sheer saturation of nonsensical ideas.(the theme of End of Evangelion; ironic AF)
All that crap was put there just for the hell of it. Eva staff admit they thought it would be cool and wanted it to make Eva different from other animes. It not that deep.
I would say that the show is hard to recommend. If I hadn’t taken two English courses and two courses in western philosophy, plus 20 years of background Catholic theology in my head, I probably would not have understood it as well as I did.
Years ago, I was reading about Bi-Polar disorder having just been diagnosed. While reading about bi polar in media, there was an article talking about NGE. It said that Hideaki Anno the creator of NGE suffered from bi polar more specifically depression more predominantly than the manic. It stated that in an interview that each of the main characters mostly the younger ones each exhibits a characteristic of bi polar. Shinji depression Asuka manic Rei schizophrenic. Kaworu personality duality. However, I was never able to confirm the validity of the article so take it with a grain of salt.
First anime that comes to mind when I see the title is the Monogatari series. Great writing and art direction, but the excessive (and weird) fanservice make it harder to recommend than NGE. It also starts off slow, which makes plenty of anime hard to recommend.
@@therealfizzberg It is good, but the directing style is an acquired taste. On the avant-garde side of things. Fantastic character writing, artstyle and music tho. It’s a parody of harem/ecchi anime, and it’s hard to be a parody of something w/o playing into what your satirizing.
Ahh i see, im not sure im a person that would be able to look past that tbh - but ill give it the good ol' 3 episode tester and see if i like it!@@smokeylonesome4328
Big agree. Hard to recommend Monogatari to people as either an ecchi or as an intellectual adventure because it combines those two disparate elements so jarringly. The directing and visuals are consistently amazing, but the subject matter is all over the place; quite an experience.
I personally think it is hugely overated. It is falsely deep (we got the metaphor and the implied meanings, you don't need to drag it over 2 episodes) and is basically just the author dumping his depression on others. It was interresting before the "plot twist" at the end but the author couldn't finish properly and absolutely destroyed everything before. It's what can happen to those stories that build it all to rely on the ending kind of like Darling in the Franxx who just went screw the plot it's aliens. I'm not trashing for free evengelion by the way. I actually love those deeper animes, my personal favorite animes are Madoka Magica which is a masterpiece unbelievably well crafted and deep and Kill la Kill which is deceptively deep with it's message about women that flew over most people's head that took it at face value. It's the kind of things I'd say watch it for yourself and make your own opinion and I would then add that I personally think it's trash. Totally would warn about the sexual assault though, both the hospital scene and the pedophile tendencies of Misato.
I think it just boils down to taste tbh - some people love it and other people dislike it. Kill la Kill is a good example cuz a lot of people would just give up on that before even watching it cuz of its hyper sexualization.
I watched the show at 13 bc my brother recommended it to me, I was really depressed at the time so it was good to have characters to relate to but idk why my older brother would recommend it to me. I def wouldn't recommend it to anyone younger than 16 or 15.
NGE is a great anime and a huge cultural landmark, but yeah, it's not something I'd like to rewatch let alone recommend to normies. The first stumbling block is how pathetic Shinji is; it takes 8 episodes for Asuka to show up- the show is a slog until that point cos Shinji and Rei are so spineless and lifeless; then things get abstract/hard to follow (especially the last two episodes). The lore of NGE is crazy good; the globalist conspiracy mystery stuff is great; the classical and jazz music is quirky; the Angel designs are very creative; the themes of loneliness/isolation/escapism, etc. are timeless and well executed; Rei and Asuka are basically prototypes for the kuudere and tsundere tropes. For those reasons and more NGE is a hugely important series.
Tsundere been around before Eva was evan a thing. Those pre asuka eps had more development before things went fanservice crazy. Sure watch asuka is fun but soon her character becomes annoying like most of the characters in Eva.
I wouldn't say it's controversial; I would just say there's a lot of mixed opinions on it. If it is controversial, then the conversation on it must have changed. Granted, everything's controversial now.
i mean controversial is a very loaded word (hence why i used it to start debate) that can be used in many different aspects. I think its controversial mainly from the way it differs from first glance and then actually watching it as people usually get the wrong idea of what the anime actually is... and also all the stuff with the children.
I really is like that sometimes, either way it's all alright! there is a lot of people that deeply connect with it and then other people that find it silly and goofy - but it's like that with everything imo (i think its a good inbetween leaning towards "deep/mah teenhood")
"too controversial to recommend" you ain't see nothing yet. tbh thestory of evangelion kinda sucks a bit, but the lore and technology, and how the technology is drawn and animated pulled me in
there is obviously insane animes out there that are like straight up banned i'm sure - but those are not "mainstream", though that could be an interesting topic to deep dive into.
Maybe you have to be in the right place mentally to enjoy it, im not sure. I do know that it is legitimately great. The best stuff is all the things that happen between the mech fights.
yea thats exactly what i'm trying to shed light on - but i have to disagree thats its "one of the most" mainstream recommended shows. it's definitely one of the most accesible (streaming wise and easy to get into) mech animes out there, but if we are talking mainstream anime then death note, naruto, one piece, dragon ball and the likes are miles ahead. Its much easier to recommend death note than it is to recommend NGE. What i think as i also mention in the video is that a lot of people know of NGE, but have a skewed idea of what it actually is. Like i also know of - lets say "fifty shades of gray" but i haven't watched it, therefore my idea of what it is, is most likely very different from the people that have actually watched it. But thats just my opinion. I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Yea i agree! it's literally my favourite as i also mention in the first minute! i actually havn't heard about the cult terror attack, what is that about? sounds really intersting
@@therealfizzberg I assume the OP is referring to the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway on March 20 1995, known as Chikatetsu Sarin Jiken, or "Subway Sarin Incident".
Bible Black could be called 'the Evangelion of hentai', by intellectuals... But it's got so much more competition: Wordsworth Ninja Scroll A Kite Dark Shell Mezzo Forte Cambrian Shinseiki Inma Seiden Kage
I 100% agree with this video. I was talking to one of my casual friends about what anime’s I watched and I brought up Evangelion and he was like I heard about it do you recommend? and it’s like such a difficult question to answer because i know he’ll probably end up enjoying it but then again it’s a show that’s very different and I didn’t know if he’d like all the psychological stuff. and it was just much easier to tell him nah rather than explain that. I also feel like because as people in general we find it hard to tell others about our mental health and the entire show revolves around that so I felt like me telling him I recommend it is almost like me telling yeah I’m not doing to well mentally which isn’t something you usually say to a not very close friend
Thats a very interesting point, i haven't thought in that what we like in media could potentially reflect on how we are feeling mentally, which with that in mind can be really rough if a person is struggling. Thanks for the insight, i hope your'e doing great man!
I watched Evangelion at a very particular time in my life, at the lowest of my depression. It left a huge impact on me and I still cherish the time I spent with it. Eva also was the first anime I REALLY got interested in, and was my gateway into Japanese media, more specifically, mecha anime and kaiju/hero tokusatsu (live action works with heavy usage of special effects). What I'm trying to get at here is, while Eva is GREAT, it's not as unique as people may like to think, as it is heavily derivative of works (like most things are) such as Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Gundam series, Space Runaway Ideon, Mazinger Z, and Devilman.
And the whole idea that "Evangelion is not about the robots" is kinda disingenuous, considering said robots do play a huge role in the story; it feels more like when people say this, they are comparing it to their idea of what mecha is, rather than actually comparing it to similar shows.
In conclusion, if we're talking about mecha anime that are too controversial to recommend, GaoGaiGar is really good but holy shit all those flashing lights oof ouch
you might be right - i also tried to come over the point of what mech animes actually are, counter what people think they are, but maybe should have been more firm on that point. I have not seen the show GaoGaiGar but if you recommend it i'll definitely give it a go. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I hope you're doing better!
Evangelion is closer to an earlier project that Hideaki Anno worked on along with the entire GAINAX crew: "0800: War In The Pocket"...made in 1988, it's ALSO a sobering deconstruction of the powerfantasy-dominated, Mecha/Military genres, as well...
Mature works like this are simply not recommended.
To paraphrase the creator's sentiments on the Anime Fandoms: 'I live in a nation of children. Adults read pornography on the subway in full view of actual children'(It's disgusting) Hideaki Anno
Themes touched in his OTHER PRODUCTIONS:
"Gunbuster"(1988; "Ender's Game" homange/PRO-Japanese Imperialism?!) & "Wings of Honneamise"(1987)(a rebuttal of Japanese Racism/Imperialism!)
Also check out his Liveaction works like "Ritual" and "Love & Pop"(WOW!)
OR, his latter cameo directing/acting in 2nd half of "Gurren Lagann" and "FLCL"(he is the "fat housecat" with big testicles)
"Evangelion" is actually UNDERAPPRECIATED. It's not some fluke. It's a culmination of a valid Human Condition message, by a Kubrickian master of his craft.🤷🏿♂
@@ynraider While it does seem some Gainax staff worked on Gundam 0080, Hideaki Anno himself did not. You may be confusing it for his contribution to the mechanical design in Char's Counterattack. As for everything else you bring up.... I don't care? Anno isn't some mastermind creating the best works imaginable; he's just a guy who likes cool stuff. We're talking about the director of the live action Cutie Honey, the guy who did motion capture for Shin Ultraman. Let's be real.
To be fair most mecha anime isn't fully about the robots.
You really need to check out the original Mobile Suit Gundam. If you don't have the time for a series, the shorter movie trilogy version is a fine alternative.
sounds cool ill give it a go!
I think msg thunderbolt is a much better starting point for people since it's only a couple movies rn, not knocking the og series though. The movies however, I don't think do a great job of condensing it
MSG is a bit hypocritical, it's ALLEGEDLY about "the realistic trauma of warfare", but ends with Armuro becoming a god of death(Gundam ace pilot) in a love triangle with an elite newtype subspecies(EUGENICS). And don't forget the "Lost Cause/Confederacy" mythos snuck in as the Zeon Faction.
It's pretty toxic when compared to the good UC titles: 0080 & 0083...
MORE criticism about the writing should have appeared by now...
The way I got into Eva was through a video essay called “The Curse of Evangelion” which I saw mentioned in a gag in a video by Deoxide. It made me want to watch the series (and to an extent, EoE) just to understand its messaging fully.
thats really interesting, hopefully my videos can one day inspire other people to get into different stuff!
little correction: End of Eva was made because of fan backlash, not because the creator or publisher wanted another ending. The Rebuild movies are that "creator wants it different" ending, after he got over his personal struggles and depression.
Ahh okay Sorry for that, i guess my research on that was misinformed!
Didn't they run out of budget before the ending of the original series? And as a result the final episodes were unpolished and unfinished right? So that's why End of Evangelion was made?
Thats also what i had read that they were pushing it because they were afraid they couldn't make a profit, and then when it was a hit they brought it back - but i might be mistaken@@lukastardieu7343
@@lukastardieu7343 They indeed ran out of money, but the main reason EoE was made was the extreme reaction of the fans to the original ending.
@@Squirrelsquid this is not true, EoE was the original ending that was intended to be made. at the same time, "backlash" was mostly made up
This anime gives me a strange feeling of comfort, a little similar to the one I felt while watching kino's journey
very true!
shinji, throw it back
Shinji, hit the griddy
i discovered via a friend a long time ago, he was one of those chill edgy kids and when the anime came out in Netflix i finally decided to give it a go, and boy it was something, even tho i was so shaken by the first 26 episodes and didnt get anything of the ending watching the movie was the fucking worse, seeing all that carnage and all. keep in mind that i struggled with something similar to what was happening to shinji at the time but i just undertood it rather recently after looking more deeply into it but still, it was beautiful and i do not regret it one bit
Eva's super funny to me cuz people always praise it for the wrong things, the deconstructions of mech anime attributed to it are things the original Mobile Suit Gundam should be credited for over 20 years prior to Evangelion (inspiring Anno himself heavily, Anno in one interview citing CCA, the first Gundam movie that wasn't a compilation of episodes, as defining his generation), but that doesn't at all diminish the genius of Evangelion or its quality, and it's the series' unique amazing qualities that I wish more people praised.
100% agree my mans! I just think EVA was there at the right time at the right place
MSG is a bit hypocritical, it's ALLEGEDLY about "the realistic trauma of warfare", but ends with Armuro becoming a god of death(Gundam ace pilot) in a love triangle with an elite newtype subspecies(EUGENICS). And don't forget the "Lost Cause/Confederacy" mythos snuck in as the Zeon Faction.
It's pretty toxic when compared to the good UC titles: 0080 & 0083...
MORE criticism about the writing should have appeared by now...
GAINAX worked on CCA AND 0080, alongside 0083, those are the top 3 UC Gundams...
Anno is a mecha fan of the utmost caliber, seeing as how he DESIGNED some of the msot iconic Gundam units as well!
His inspiration from Gundam, was the machines, NOT the Human Condition narratives, as he was PRESENT when those were crafted!
And Tomino/Anno were BOTH inspired by Gao Nagai! Only Anno carried the torch.
@@ynraider Ah, so you haven't seen any of it. Fun.
MSG is about love, human connection, interaction and communication, the trauma meme is a part of a lot of Gundam stories, but that's not what the franchise is actually about. As Gundam X had explained, and as was always the case to everyone who was paying attention, Newtypes aren't a subspecies, they're random people who just have the power of extreme empathy, which is all that being a newtype is, y'know, the communication theme, newtypes being the next step in humanity's evolution is explicitly and specifically Zeon propaganda, Zeon being an allegory for Nazi Germany which, yes, used Fascist talking points, obviously. Being a newtype, crucially, isn't genetic, aside from the fact that every human might be a newtype. As for Zeon's "mythos", it's a parallel to pre-Nazi Germany's complaints of economic exploitation that's been happening for decades prior to Hitler's rise, who used said fact to gain power. Also, uh. Amuro being good at killing is at no point presented as particularly good, aside from the fact that it helps him not die it's taken an extreme toll on him.
It's funny you ever bring up Stardust Memory, as it contains pretty much the only instance in the series of a character who spouts Zeon's Fascist propaganda without ever being challenged on it, Anavel Gato.
I warmly recommend you watch some MSG, you'll be very happily surprised with its actual messaging on these issues.
@@ynraider Gainax is exclusively credited as working on CCA and G Gundam. Anno never designed a single Gundam or Mobile Suit, his biggest contribution was designing background ships for CCA. The future president of Gainax wrote the screenplay for 0080, but wasn't a member of Gainax at the time. There is zero evidence of Gainax working on Stardust Memory in any capacity.
Anno had cited Tomino as one of, if nothing his biggest inspiration multiple times, citing CCA as the movie that defined his generation. He had nothing to do with the writing process of any Gundam series, as stated, his contributions were entirely minimal, as were Gainax's in general.
the cinematography of the show is pretty amazing too. I LOVE the elevator scene with rei and azuka where they take a full minute for a almost completely still scene depicting the contrast between azuka at the peak of her mental break down, pretending like she doesn't care, while rei actually doesn't care.
it's funny you mention that cuz i actually do think about that scene from time to time. That scene is so nicely put together!
That scene was made cause they were having money issues.
@@INFERNO95 i'm aware, and its a very creative way to save money
Good video, subbed. Nice to hear well thought out talk about subjects people genuinely care about somewhat.
Thanks man i really appreciate it! i'm glad you enjoyed the video!
If you like Evangelion, I'd recommend "Revolutionary Girl Utena", Kaworu has been rumored to be based off of Kunihiko Ikuhara(director of Utena), Anno,I believe, denies this.... but eh, I dunno man... the two directors are pretty damn close as friends, they even went to the bathhouse together, soaked in some warm tub of water and talked about their life and personal problems... hey now... doesn't that sound familiar? Shinji and Kaworu bath scene...?
Anyways though. Check out Utena, it's a very amazing show(when or if u have the time).
That sounds super interesting im also definitely 100% certain that its not based on that haha... ill check it out sounds cool!
Hideaki Anno began pitching Evangelion in 1993, at bars frequented by Otaku/veterans in Anime production.
FUNFACT:
1)Allegedly, "Serial Experiments Lain" was birthed when other creatives overheard Anno's psychological/psychotic rants for funding.
2)Once Evangelion became a massive success, SEL/Cowboy Bebop/GiTS/darker/mature shows were greenlit!(not allegedly, the creators confirmed this; EvaGeeks Forums had interviews)
Evangelion is a literal REVOLUTION in Anime Industry standards. "Revolutionary Anime Evangelion"!🤣
Introducing NGE to people is like introducing people to Drakengard/Nier (video games by Yoko Taro, shares writing and themes with H. Anno). Not only do these pieces of media go heavily into dark stuff and symbolism, as you said, but also they require patience and multiple viewings. Both are open to interpretation, and I suspect people today don't have the patience for OG NGE and Drakengard 1. I could be wrong, though.
Which leads me to Rebuild. I've yet to watch anything after 2.22. I dunno... I never got into it.
I think its a really interesting take that people might not have the patience for it cuz that could be very real, i definitely see a trend where people prefer more shorter content than longer where you most likely need more rewatches
Thanks for responding. But yes; the average attention span has gone down from 12 seconds to 4-5. Also, people seem more intrigued by loud noises, over-dramatic flashes and scenes, plus instant gratification. Older media simply doesn't do it for them (mostly). It's why it's difficult (for me) to introduce older series and games to people.@@therealfizzberg
Don't watch the "Reibuilds"; they are just a way for Anno/Studio Kara to:
1) employ his formerly enslaved friends who were abused by GAINAX rapist takeover(look the cases up! horrific)
2) DESTROY the Evangelion franchise as a brand. A "mercy killing" by sheer saturation of nonsensical ideas.(the theme of End of Evangelion; ironic AF)
All that crap was put there just for the hell of it. Eva staff admit they thought it would be cool and wanted it to make Eva different from other animes. It not that deep.
I would say that the show is hard to recommend. If I hadn’t taken two English courses and two courses in western philosophy, plus 20 years of background Catholic theology in my head, I probably would not have understood it as well as I did.
Years ago, I was reading about Bi-Polar disorder having just been diagnosed. While reading about bi polar in media, there was an article talking about NGE. It said that Hideaki Anno the creator of NGE suffered from bi polar more specifically depression more predominantly than the manic. It stated that in an interview that each of the main characters mostly the younger ones each exhibits a characteristic of bi polar. Shinji depression Asuka manic Rei schizophrenic. Kaworu personality duality. However, I was never able to confirm the validity of the article so take it with a grain of salt.
Poking the algo a bit further
Thats what we like to see!
First anime that comes to mind when I see the title is the Monogatari series. Great writing and art direction, but the excessive (and weird) fanservice make it harder to recommend than NGE. It also starts off slow, which makes plenty of anime hard to recommend.
Man why do they do that to us :( If its really good ill give it a go though!
@@therealfizzberg It is good, but the directing style is an acquired taste. On the avant-garde side of things. Fantastic character writing, artstyle and music tho. It’s a parody of harem/ecchi anime, and it’s hard to be a parody of something w/o playing into what your satirizing.
Ahh i see, im not sure im a person that would be able to look past that tbh - but ill give it the good ol' 3 episode tester and see if i like it!@@smokeylonesome4328
Monogatari is an awesome show I can't lie, check out Bakemonogatari.
Big agree. Hard to recommend Monogatari to people as either an ecchi or as an intellectual adventure because it combines those two disparate elements so jarringly. The directing and visuals are consistently amazing, but the subject matter is all over the place; quite an experience.
I feel like most anime is hard to recommend but eva is hard to recommend even to the fans of anime
Its the age old question of anime - "does this person like anime or do they think its cringe"
"I am very much a weeb"
No surprises there
please, im just a simple man
I personally think it is hugely overated. It is falsely deep (we got the metaphor and the implied meanings, you don't need to drag it over 2 episodes) and is basically just the author dumping his depression on others. It was interresting before the "plot twist" at the end but the author couldn't finish properly and absolutely destroyed everything before. It's what can happen to those stories that build it all to rely on the ending kind of like Darling in the Franxx who just went screw the plot it's aliens.
I'm not trashing for free evengelion by the way. I actually love those deeper animes, my personal favorite animes are Madoka Magica which is a masterpiece unbelievably well crafted and deep and Kill la Kill which is deceptively deep with it's message about women that flew over most people's head that took it at face value.
It's the kind of things I'd say watch it for yourself and make your own opinion and I would then add that I personally think it's trash. Totally would warn about the sexual assault though, both the hospital scene and the pedophile tendencies of Misato.
I think it just boils down to taste tbh - some people love it and other people dislike it. Kill la Kill is a good example cuz a lot of people would just give up on that before even watching it cuz of its hyper sexualization.
this is so fucked but like whats the song that plays around 0:06
Thats the super mario party switch main theme!
I watched the show at 13 bc my brother recommended it to me, I was really depressed at the time so it was good to have characters to relate to but idk why my older brother would recommend it to me. I def wouldn't recommend it to anyone younger than 16 or 15.
Why are small channels always have to be the best ones on RUclips lol
Thank you so much i really appreciate it!
Because they have not sold there soul to RUclips or the net yet.
why do we call your friend dio? what did he do? 6:20
it has been rumoured that can stop time and have a big muscly yellow guy follow him 👀
@@therealfizzberg 😲
Cowboy Bebop is very much the same imo. I recommend it if you like Evangelion
I love cowboy Bepop - the soundtrack also slaps
@@therealfizzberg By far one of the peakest animes ever just like eva
NGE is a great anime and a huge cultural landmark, but yeah, it's not something I'd like to rewatch let alone recommend to normies. The first stumbling block is how pathetic Shinji is; it takes 8 episodes for Asuka to show up- the show is a slog until that point cos Shinji and Rei are so spineless and lifeless; then things get abstract/hard to follow (especially the last two episodes).
The lore of NGE is crazy good; the globalist conspiracy mystery stuff is great; the classical and jazz music is quirky; the Angel designs are very creative; the themes of loneliness/isolation/escapism, etc. are timeless and well executed; Rei and Asuka are basically prototypes for the kuudere and tsundere tropes. For those reasons and more NGE is a hugely important series.
Tsundere been around before Eva was evan a thing. Those pre asuka eps had more development before things went fanservice crazy. Sure watch asuka is fun but soon her character becomes annoying like most of the characters in Eva.
I wouldn't say it's controversial; I would just say there's a lot of mixed opinions on it. If it is controversial, then the conversation on it must have changed. Granted, everything's controversial now.
i mean controversial is a very loaded word (hence why i used it to start debate) that can be used in many different aspects. I think its controversial mainly from the way it differs from first glance and then actually watching it as people usually get the wrong idea of what the anime actually is... and also all the stuff with the children.
That's not how you spell Made in Abyss
i think ill stay away from that one
I would watch neon but I cant find it on netflix (if theres no dub then forget it)
it used to be on netflix but maybe it's not available in your country unfourtunately :/
Its on Netflix in the US unless they just took it off. The rebuild movies are on Amazon prime as well
watched it when i was 11-12 so i barely understood anything but also bc im dumb
watched it when i was 20 ish - but i was just as dumb the first watch
theres two camps for this show
the "show not deep/doesnt make sense"
or
"deep/mah teenhood"
I really is like that sometimes, either way it's all alright! there is a lot of people that deeply connect with it and then other people that find it silly and goofy - but it's like that with everything imo (i think its a good inbetween leaning towards "deep/mah teenhood")
Nice vid!
Thank you! I really appreciate you guys enjoying my videos!
"too controversial to recommend" you ain't see nothing yet. tbh thestory of evangelion kinda sucks a bit, but the lore and technology, and how the technology is drawn and animated pulled me in
there is obviously insane animes out there that are like straight up banned i'm sure - but those are not "mainstream", though that could be an interesting topic to deep dive into.
this video's so cool
Thank you so much! i really appreciate it!
@@therealfizzberg thanks to you for sharing us your opinion ^^
there are many more opinions to come! Thanks for the kind words!@@canciondeamorparaolga
Maybe you have to be in the right place mentally to enjoy it, im not sure. I do know that it is legitimately great.
The best stuff is all the things that happen between the mech fights.
Most mecha anime aren't about the mechs, and NGE is one of the most mainstream recommended shows ever.
yea thats exactly what i'm trying to shed light on - but i have to disagree thats its "one of the most" mainstream recommended shows. it's definitely one of the most accesible (streaming wise and easy to get into) mech animes out there, but if we are talking mainstream anime then death note, naruto, one piece, dragon ball and the likes are miles ahead. Its much easier to recommend death note than it is to recommend NGE. What i think as i also mention in the video is that a lot of people know of NGE, but have a skewed idea of what it actually is. Like i also know of - lets say "fifty shades of gray" but i haven't watched it, therefore my idea of what it is, is most likely very different from the people that have actually watched it. But thats just my opinion. I'd love to hear your thoughts!
It only recommended for the fanservice.
it's a work of genius. who cares if you "like it"? the final episodes were impacted by the cult terror attack and other elements.
Yea i agree! it's literally my favourite as i also mention in the first minute! i actually havn't heard about the cult terror attack, what is that about? sounds really intersting
@@therealfizzberg I assume the OP is referring to the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway on March 20 1995, known as Chikatetsu Sarin Jiken, or "Subway Sarin Incident".
okay i have not heard of that - thanks for helping out i'll look it up!@@carbonizedchair4521
It not a work of genius. If anything most of it was a fluke.
NGL iI thought this was going to be a bait and switch to talk about bokurano.
as an evangelion fan and a mecha fan in general, I'm probably not gonna like the video but, hey, I have to at least see what points you make.
i don't know that manga by name but ill check it out. hopefully you did end up liking the video
"The Anime Too Controversial To Recommend" Jesus Christ, it's Eva not Black Bible
sorry man, i don't watch hentai but have fun with that - wish u the best!
@@therealfizzbergha, good one.
Bible Black could be called 'the Evangelion of hentai', by intellectuals...
But it's got so much more competition:
Wordsworth
Ninja Scroll
A Kite
Dark Shell
Mezzo Forte
Cambrian
Shinseiki Inma Seiden
Kage
everyone should watch it so they can understand all the references to it
Holy shit! A new camera.
Actually its not even a new camera its just better lighting cuz i realised that i have good lighting but because im stupid i did not think to use it
@@therealfizzberg ngl I did kind of like the shit quality🐸
@@magnush.jensen2036 it definitely has a certain vibe to it, i hope the memes can make up for it!
what about jojo's bizzare adventure?
I love Jojo's But not as much as NGE
watched it when i was 11-12 so i barely understood anything but also bc im dumb
I'm in the same boat as you