Tobias Forge: Ghost Fans Are Lonely People
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2023
- Ghost frontman Tobias Forge speaks on the very lonely Ghost fans, and the incident where a venue forced fans to remove their facepaint before attending the show. Plus, more updates from the world of Ghost.
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I love being a Ghost fan, I don’t get how people can hate the band. It’s fun music, it’s good music, they are incredible live.
As a ghost fan I can confirm he is definitely not wrong lol
😂😭😭😭
We just need to find one another so we can be weird together.
Absolutely true.
@@DarkbutNotsinister right
I second that 😅
we are lonely tho so he’s not wrong
I am 😢
I'm not
yeh
As a ghestie myself I have found peace and acceptance in the Ghost fandom and absolutely love the band with my whole soul. I love Tobias, he's a sweet guy. ❤
A ghestie?
@@patientmental875 It's what Ghost fans call themselves, I'm not sure where it came from or who started it.
Such a sweet guy that he screwed over the actual talent behind ghost and went on to make 2 crap albums
@@Ghoulishartzghost fans are called ghouls and ghoulehs, only after they got big on tiktok did ghesties become a thing lol they're both cute options tho for sure
I feel the same :))
Ghost is my 1 year old niece’s favorite band. She gets so excited when my brother plays their music on tv.
Shes already lonely
@@Arthurian. lol no they’ve got a house full there
@@SenaC90 you know how many commit suicide for feeling alone when they have an entire world going on around them? It's nothing new.
@@Arthurian. ok so thanks for turning this around to something completely different when I’m talking about a 1 yr old who likes to listen to Ghost. Not sure what made you change this to something like that.
@@SenaC90 no idea
As a ghost fan, I enjoy my alone time. 🤘🏼👻🤘🏼
me too
That’s fair. I like my alone time too.
Same. I am honestly lonely by choice.
Well, considering a lot of us had some fk’d up stuff happen to us, we’ve learned not to trust so easily after years of getting hurt and burned. I’ve often thought that Tobias had to have gone through some extremely traumatic things in his life. You don’t write things like “I can feel the Thunder that’s breaking in your heart, I can see the scars inside you”, without having scars. And we all know the longer it takes to heal the the bigger the scar. And that’s just one example of what I feel reveals he’s been through that level of pain. I’m just glad he didn’t let everything go to his head. He’s always been super to his fan base and if you ever go to a Ghost concert, it’s like framily (friends+family).
I feel like the outlier, definitely wouldn't call myself lonely I actually prefer keeping to myself and not really being a social person. I have my animals, my fiance, my son and the 3 or 4 people i talk to consistently and i couldn't be happier. We aren't all lonely but most of us in the fanbase are inteoverts.
He is completely correct.. for me anyways. I found a community of support and love within the Ghost community. And the fact that Tobias acknowledges us fans and encourages us to be ourselves, I will always love this man and Ghost in general with my whole heart ❤
Tobias kicks ass! Creative mind and great person! 🤘🏼
Sad thing is, he is not wrong. Our whole culture is lonely. If you find a community you fight for it.
I would be the outlier I guess, I definitely don't feel lonely in life I actually prefer to not have many people around me.
@@getshwiftygaming447 NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT-THAT Just means yer happy to be you-Good on ya mate,-All Love is Good,including self love-when u are filled u can let it flow baby,,,,;) kisses😘
@@BUlrich-dw7xi very true. Too many people aren't taught how to be comfortable with who they are and it makes me sad. I wish there was a way to reach out to more people and let them know that no matter what they may go through they aren't alone and we are all in this together.
@@getshwiftygaming447 I know it's a cliche, but if you want to reach out to people, volunteering in an area that you care about is a really good way to do it. I've been doing literacy volunteer work at my local library for years because I love to read, and it's really amazing to help people in such a basic, fundamental way. I've also finally been brave enough to start volunteering with LGBTQ youth, to show them as living proof that once they get out of their current lousy home and/or school situations, they can actually survive to become relatively happy, healthy, and even semi-cool adults. (At least I hope I'm semi-cool! XP) It's going well so far, and I've met some really awesome people who are also volunteers at this program, and are more around my own age. (Roughly Tobias aged.) It feels pretty incredible to know that you can help people, just by listening to them, and letting them know that they're not alone.
@@getshwiftygaming447 I think thats WHAT Tobias means when he says lonely. Wanting to be alone is still being lonely, whether you like it or not. I am the same as you, I am lonely but i like it.
Tobias is on point, I am a very lonely outsider, struggling with a lot - but Ghost is one of the few things keeping me alive these days ❤
Tobias is so interesting… I love his takes on variations of things.
Sigh... I went to the STL show.. it was live nation's fault. They own the venue, and went along with their base line "rules" and trying to say it was Ghosts fault at the same time. Security was even confused about it. Some let people in some forced people to wipe it off in line. It was a stupid ass scenario that shouldn't have been an issues. Live nation/Hollywood casino amphitheater issued a statement the next day "apologizing".. Basically saying we messed up without saying it.
That venue should be boycotted by bands
I will NEVER give Ghost crap about the sound not matching the image again.
New found respect they care about their fans
that's really part of the beauty with Ghost, subverting expectations.
@@UltimateGamerCCthat’s one of the reasons I fell in love with them too. They have actually helped me fall back in love with music and start playing the drums after 20 years away.
But what does Corey Taylor think about this
What does Tobias forge think about this
we also need to hear from alex terrible about this
Ay that's loud wire territory 😂😂
@@RockFeed ❤️🔥
What does Corey think about what Tobias thinks that makes Corey think so much about it???
i wouldnt say im lonely per se. im just aggressively solitary
I actually am a lonely person, as if he knew 😂 Tobias must be psychic
You shouldn’t be lonely you got the whole metal family on your side 🤘🔥❤️
@RockFeed haha I'm only messing around 😂
I have indeed, heavy metal for life 🤘
I haven't had friends or went to a show with someone in almost a decade lol. In 2016 I went to see Ghost by myself!
@@7deadlysloths I know how you feel, I have no friends. None at all. But life goes on, I guess.
same but i manage. Its hard
The best bands were nurtured. I love seeing bands that put in the work finally hit that point. Look at all these older legendary bands. A lot have a bunch of albums before they even got a hit.
Yeah, he's 100% right. He will always be my favorite frontman and musician. I hope to meet him some day and maybe work with him on something. It's a long shot, but i hope so.
I’m only lonely when I’m around other people lol
well he’s not wrong
Multitudes of people are lonely, but if we all could just get to know one another, we wouldn’t be. We need to find that common denominator, that has been infiltrating our ears all along.🎶
If you have Ghost, you have everything.
Lonely - An Outsider - Going through a lot of tough times.
Tobias nailed it. That's me in a nutshell.
That Alan Jackson shirt is straight fire. i live in Oklahoma and we are metal cowboys, here. We love our Slaughter To Prevail, we love our HARDY, we love our Slipknot, and we love our Alan Jackson, too. 🤠🤘
same
@@BreexbloodlustHell yeah! Good to see a fellow Okie here 😎
@@ghost_to_a_ghost for sure
Im not lonely because I love my me time, I'm just a hardcore introvert. I think a lot of the fan base are introspective, creative souls that dont fit into a 9-5 soul-killing paradigm.
The only reason I can think of them wanting it removed is in case of some sort of criminal event taking place and them not being able to be identified due to the face paint. It's stupid and ridiculous but that's the world we've come to where everything is becoming very Draconian. Or it's because the security in particular or the location of the venue was very religiously oriented and they didn't want the kids portraying anything that they would deem satanic or demonic in any way. Religious zealots can be a bit out of touch.
He's absolutely right! He saved me ❤
I’m glad he knows how I feel when I don’t want to talk about it
Everyone is lonely, not just Ghost fans.
Yeah, one lonely person here 👋and Ghost is absolutely one of my biggest inspirations including all others
Protect him at all costs
yes
Listen....just because you're right doesn't mean you have to say it out loud 😂 I feel so called out
I was at that show in Maryland Heights.
They didn’t blame the band but they were claiming it was a venue rule for some reason.
St. Louis is really weird about stuff. I remember one time I went to a show at The Pageant and they wouldn’t let me bring in a bottle opener.
I’m excited about this supposed movie
Love Ghost, always have, always will.
Magna Carta cartel 🤘
Some people prefer to be alone. A little bit of socializing goes a long way with me its mentally exhausting.
Ghost is an amazing band and When I hear people say His voice is nasal and uncreative lacking variety to them I say Suck Mummy Dust, They dont get it or understand what we Ghouls have We Have Ghost and We Have Everything
I’m stealing the term “Suck mummy dust”
Yes.
I do feel alone even though I'm not physically/literally alone. I'm definitely an outlier.
So its James and Sully behind him right? I always noticed them back there but never really looked. Subconsciously i think i knew it was James from the guitar lol
Yup
I like being lonely and I love ghost ..... So yeah he is right ...
Im an old 2012 Ghostie of yesteryear
I’m not lonely, but I get the struggle.
Never really thought of Ghost as Heavy Metal or Nu Metal. Its too melodic and euphoric. never the less whatever you want to call their sound I like it. The faceless ghouls are fantastic musicians and Tobias has a voice that reminds me a lot of Klaus Meine of Scorpions. His image as a Ghoulish Pope and his vocals just fit so well. Calming and uplifting to Growly and sinister. Whilst I feel that some of their songs are heavily commercialized and overplayed which lowers their value for me personally I cant help but love and respect the energy and talent behind it all. As for Ghost fans being Lonely People. They shouldn't be. They have each other. They have Ghost and its music. Whenever I have a bad day and I hear Ghost Playing I just feel better inside. That's the way it should be. Long live Ghost!
True.
Ok this maybe true but all as one ☝️ when band Ghost hit the stage and the power is unstoppable all rise no matter who you are hail band Ghost.
I'm not lonely, i just feel like it
Take off my war paint!!!
Thems fighting words!!!
Me=fan
Me=not lonely
When music is your only friend...( The Doors)
"When you're strange, faces come out of the rain.."
St. Louis……I guess that looking back Axl was not wrong.
"we do not want to stifle creativity or expression." *does it anyway* i would be more than mad and i wouldnt even remotely think it was Papa doing it, he aint no square he just sings about a square hammer.
He's right. We are lonely
He's right but I am more loner than lonely, outsider and weirdo definitelly, find myself in Ghost music absolutely.
Alan Jackson shirt . Respect
I'm not lonely and I love Ghost
I mean, it's an escape from reality sort of band, an alternative reality and people who find the real reality exhausting and difficult gravitate towards art like that. Like attracts like...
I love Ghost, and I am absolutely not lonely. I could use more alone time tbh
we are lonely together 🤝
That's unfortunately true
I See....
Lonely, because they’re so few and far between? HAH! I Kidd. Y’all like what you wanna like. I tried to get into Ghost, but it’s just not heavy enough (FOR ME)
Kansas City - I would BET the Westboro Baptist Church was involved in the 'remove the paint' idea
Haven't been around that long..They've been around at least 20 years now.
Huh? Ghost formed in 2006, but they didn't release anything or perform until fall 2010. So if you count band formation, then 17 years. But I'd count since 2010, then they've been around for 13 years now!
I was at the St Louis show, I saw some people with face paint but it was a minority I guess. I saw signs saying face paint and masks weren't allowed, but then saw people with makeup on.
As they say in Missouri: "I ain't going back to Missouri"
🔥🔥🔱Alot of UZ are solitary practitioners! Duh?!! 🔱🔥🔥
The band doesnt want that. Seems to be security response to dealing with anything. Ive heard that at the last concert i went to also.
As a 41 yo ghost fan guys, he'.s COMPLETELY RIGHT, best singer ever!
I feel called out. LOL.
I do not know if this is the case … I am a fairly gregarious (old) fellow. I have more than one friend who also loves Ghost. I am also a Mason and know several others who are fans. My wife does not care for Ghost; not her style of music but she doesn’t mind that I love them. I love being a Ghost fan and find I like other Ghost fans! Now to some degree I suppose we are outsiders, in the sense that we are somewhat unlikely to be a religious zealot, but then I am guessing none of us ever we’re 😮😂
One of my friends is a ghost fan, and she's not the happiest person I know (thats an understatement)
So he's right!
✔️🏆💯🤘
🔥🔥🔱🔥🔥
Not sure why he said that. I don't think I'm any more lonely than an average person.
I'm not lonely enough sometimes lol. 😂
Oh my god he is a psychic how the fuck does he know
I wonder if we're going to get a Ghost and ICP mash up.. Maybe they play at The Gathering. Because what he realized is what made ICP billions of dollars.
He is right tho
As a non-ghost fan i can confirm from my personal opinion that i dont care.
Tobias is probably lonely in his own way…
I think most people are lonely these days, at least from what I’ve seen but I could be wrong
I dunno man. My whole family are Ghost fans. We aren’t lonely.
I wouldn't say I'm lonely in terms of not having friends, but i'm more lonely in being a fan of the group myself. I only have a couple friends into Ghost and i grew up in the South surrounded by super republican christians :(
I would agree with the statement because my friends don't listen to ghost, I'm the only one xd
Tobias definitely wasn’t wrong.
Tobias hammered the nail on the head with his perspective, for sure. Slaughter to Prevail will only pigeon hole themselves with the likes of FFDP if Alex keeps up with his anti-human rights blabbering. They've already lost me and countless others, as fans, due to his hate speech towards the LGBTQ community. Considering where he comes from, it saddens me that he still has this mindset.
Welp.... he's not wrong.
Im not a fan and I'm lonely 😢
😢
The jackoffs that made the fans do that are probably lonely too
Tobias Forge is showing his face all the time at his side gig. He streams on Twitch under the moniker 'Dellor'
really
He isn't describing Ghost fans, he's describing modern people. Regardless, Ghost hasn't been decent since Meliora.
i mean where did he lie hahaha
Hahaha.
Being outsiders, introverts, voluntarily enjoying alone time, or being independent or individualistic enough to do your own thing doesn’t have to constitute loneliness. Seems like an oversimplification, assumption, or possible misunderstanding which makes me surprised that someone like Tobias would generalize a group, especially his own group. Most people have hurt… but that also doesn’t insure loneliness as a result. Weird.
Agree 💯 I found his comment kind of insulting.
Does someone want to tell him the upside down cross is NOT satanic but actually a Christian symbol 😂
Though that is the origin, It was later appropriated and repurposed for Satanic use. So it’s actually both which explains why it’s been used as satanic imagery for decades now. Did you just assume it’s mass use was all just some misconception or accident, like you’re smarter than everyone else? 😂
No doubt he knows this, he's very educated. But it's definitely ALSO an occult symbol. A symbol can have different definitions/contexts
I dont think thats a great marketing line...
hmm im the 666th like