they didn't even had to put these protections. The price itself put me off. I can get this game used for 3 dollars. I'm not paying 50 dollars just because it's on PC. Lazy port, but can't expect anything better from rockstar.
Yeah but GOG games don't have DRM. Which is why Rockstar decided against that and made sure to include their own launcher which you need an account for on top of steam. Blame Rockstar.
Despite being an old game, the art direction in RDR is so good that it holds up incredibly well, even after 14 years. I finally played it for the first time and just finished the game yesterday, having only played RDR2 before, aaaand FOLKS, it's been an amazing journey!
You do understand steam is also drm right? So if this game or any game thats sold on steam got removed one day you'd lose it, so why does it matter if rockstar has their own drm aswell?
@@lukinjo1231 Steam offers DRM but devs/publishers don't have to use it. BG3 for example can be run from the .exe without Steam being installed once you download it.
@@lukinjo1231 In the vast majority of cases, you can still redownload and play games that are removed from sale on Steam. There isn't single reason that benefits the consumer for this $50 14 year old single player only release to require a third party application and account.
@@lukinjo1231 There's nothing stopping developers from releasing DRM free games on Steam, lots of games don't need Steam to run at all because they opt to not use their basic DRM. CDPR doesn't use it, for example.
I'll be honest., the only thing I wish you did in this review was compare the PC version to the original Xbox 360 or PS3 release. Just to demonstrate how far this game has come since the original game out.
@@НатальяПолитова-у9мDont see why they would change basically anything if they dont have to things like aa are simple and draw distance can be modified with a slider in most engines
@@MrGamelover23 that wasn't competing, because it was a pay to win nightmare from the getgo. it just failed at really pulling people. RDR1 online didn't have that pay to win facet, so it would only compete with pre-existing money makers.
There's an option for automatically running with the horse without mashing the shift key, is the keybindings menu, it's called "hold shift for vehicles" or something like that, it works for stagecoaches and horses alike though.
2:45 left shift was used in RDR2.. they ported all key mapping from RDR2 to RDR 3:35 if you have Vsync on and tripple buffering and monitor set more than 144hz.. game will go over 144fps cap to monitor refresh rate
@@kadupse You dont need to.. I just saying framerate is higher than lock 144 with vsync and tripple buffering.. maybe you can just run vsync to unlock fps
i ACTUALLY played RDR original release on a CRT TV. we only had one Full HD TV on our houses back in the day and of course it wasn't in the kids bedroom. simpler and better times
I'll never be able to understand that werid sentiment for old electronics. It was simply worse in every way. There's nothing to appreciate. It's not like guitars or cars
@joeykeilholz925 really? Haha. How odd. And just the other day him and John were saying how they themselves could have remastered Shadow of the Damned. Obs.: for those with difficulty at reading, I'm not doubting that he could have done that. It's that he is capable of some of that magnitude and yet pays attention to something so small that even noobs know how to deal with like the sticky key.
What I learned from Steam forums and youtube comments is that PC players will always whine about game price. Even if this game was 10$ there will be someone who cries about it. And this 14 year old game is better than 99% of new games.
@ i think 20$ would have been a fare ask tbh and if anyone complained f em lol but asking damn near full price for an over a decade old game is insane!
Aren't the "color issues" caused by the dynamic weather in this game's cutscenes? I think the sun and the clouds were in different positions on the console footage vs the PC one.
@@brianfunt2619 The latter. It's in no way physically accurate. Games only started doing that during the next generation, as far as I know. The effect is still quite convincing though and makes the large, empty landscapes look much more realistic.
A bit surprised they didn’t cover handhelds even though they did consider retro hardware (which is much less relevant). Seems like the perfect use case.
@@kiisseli1337 I think point was that the R5 3600 can only get 75 FPS in a 14 year old game. You won't get higher frame rate in that spot no matter what NVIDIA card and resolution you use with the R5 3600. AMD cards might do a bit better due to having less driver overhead
Have fun with the potential viruses, malware, adaware, mining and back doors. I gave up pirating for those very reasons, just bought the games I liked on special.
8K on max settings with DLAA running on a 4K monitor is incredibly sharp. EDIT: Sigh, check the options, there's one to change the sprint action to hold instead of keep tapping....
Yeah DirectX 11 is also capable of DLSS and FSR 3.0 look at Overwatch 2. Even older cards could benifit from this change especially on AMD. They should have lowered the requirements. Even old CPU's kinda struggle in this game.
Considering Maxwell is the oldest generation still supported and it has DX12 it makes sense. You can find a GTX 960 that is the minimum requirement for 20 bucks which is a lot less than the cost of the game so I wouldn’t say that is something to hold against it.
dx12 has the benefit for playign well on modern CPUs that have high core counts and average single threading. it alleviates the gpu draw calls i assume so maybe it was about making sure it can get higher fps than the RAGE limitations without redesigning the whole engine.
Hi Digital Foundry, thanks for the video. There is RUclipsr called Brazil Pixel that makes video games analyses videos similar to your videos in regard to testing frame rate and frame time. He also has a program that continuously measures internal resolution of the game video (pixel counting). I thought that was a bit interesting since you do pixel counting manually, as far as I know. I just wanted to tell you that there is a program for continuous pixel counting, if you are interested in it.
@@brianharelick4962 oh ok. tried to look couldn't find anything concrete. even then that is a long time for a port, if everything was fine why there wasn't a port (at least the ps4 one) near the release of rdr2?
I'm interested in knowing why you didn't mention the transparency effects on foliage. If you compare PS5 backwards compatibility with the PC port, you can tell that there's some weird shimmering alpha mask issues on the foliage in the PC version. It was a huge issue on switch as well. You can see the difference in the last part of the video at 18.00, in the Bonnie cutscene comparison shot. It looks especially terrible in motion.
@@lucifer_69960Winlator. That's the name of the PC/Windows emulator on Android. It uses a combination of Box86 and Wine to run x86 Windows games on ARM Android.
@@TheCynicalAutist I know the typical answer "older engine, deeper programming, its not that simple blabla". Thats true, but it simply takes a little more time and effort, its just not the right way to defend companies that act like this, they sell it for 50 Bucks and know very well it WILL sell, its rdr1 for fu.. sake! Stop defending such things, thats one of greatest mistakes in our time in the videogamesector. There are even slowdowns in towns and modders fixed it 24 hours after release by give the cpu more priority...
@@Al3x-c4s I'm not defending the price point, but as a purist I prefer this to the shitty remasters we keep getting. It's the original game on PC. I'll get it if it's on a very good discount. A bit of pop up which happens in basically every open world game is not the crying shame you're making it out to be.
@@TheCynicalAutist Iam not attacking, i understand you, iam a purist too, but the one thing i hoped they would make sure was to remove all pop ups,....but no, its not that its a dealbreaker, but i cant stand these defendings from people all over the place, like the console wars, people fighting and the companies laughing cause its perfect marketing,.... and with the next remaster they wont do it either, cause, you know, "its understandable"
If you played RDR2 You will probably notice some inconsistencies with characters and how they react to each other. I once tried playing this right after rdr2 and i could not continue, but now when im not so fresh there probably would be no problem.
Alex, why did you not mention CPU bottleneck issues? This game has a very poor CPU utilization & hitting higher FPS (240+) isn't always possible in the most extreme possible rig!!!
@@WeencieRantsIt's not, not only you can go over 144fps with mods, but if your monitor is, let's say 240Hz and you enable Vsync, you'll get 240fps max.
Alex noticed something about the colors. The problem is bigger than it seems. The game on PC is using downgraded color spectrum where color black is absent! This is especially noticeable when compared to the XBOX 360 version which look much, much better (especially in BC on the Series X)
i just pirated this. installing at the moment. i pirated rdr2 aswell. had to buy it anyway because my older pc was turning off by itself, which turned out to be a psu problem as my psu was too old and dying. didnt even have to buy rdr2. oh well, pirated rdr1. im never buying another r* title again.
I greatly appreciated your coverage of retro hardware on this port. There's a unique opportunity to compare this port to RDR2 on PC, given the original map is represented in RDR2.
@@DigitalFoundry you can change that in the settings to hold key to sprint on vehicle so that u don't have to tap the shift key or any other assigned sprint key.
You didn't specifically mention the CPU bottleneck, I believe. I have a NUCXI7 from Minisforum, with a rtx 3070 laptop gpu and a 4 year old I7 laptop intel CPU. I did some testing and, at 4K ultra settings + DLAA, I get 73 fps at the start of the game, when looking at the train station. Using DLSS or lowering the resolution as far down as 720p has no effect on the fps. It stays the same... Only lowering the other graphical settings has an effect, which is a shame. I feel like my PC should be able to play this at 4K max settings 120 fps. I think the game is not utilising the CPU's cores properly. I hope a patch will solve this. I can absolutely play the game like this (70 fps min), but wouldn't mind the extra smoothness.
I really want to see how the game scales and performs with older hardware, especially how much it utilizes individual cores. The 360's Xenon CPU was an absolute beast in the SIMD department, and this could be one of those cases where early PC dual cores actually could get edged out performance wise - despite Xenon's deficiencies. An Athlon II x3 at 3.2 GHz + whatever lowe end DX12 GPU with enough VRAM (but matching the 360 GPU's 240 GFLOPS) would be super interesting.
So I’m assuming more in depth PS5 Pro videos are coming? I’m actually a bit underwhelmed with the video yesterday. Felt, rushed. Like does Alan Wake 2 on PS5 Pro in performance mode actually look as good as Base PS5 Quality? What about Warhammer 40K SM2? Any improvement? Also, does Black Myth Wukong in performance now run better with frame gen because the framerate is higher? Is the input lag now fixed because of it? We got way too much of Elden Ring and some weird choices IMO.
The most distracting thing for me on PC is the animation skipping, not sure if it's because the game was never really intended to run over 100fps but the horse animations seem to skip while riding around
One of my favourite games of all time in my platform of choice but I'm not giving Rockstar my money after all their greediness and mistreatment of the community on PC.
Would've loved to see some testing with DXVK here, especially since it's a singleplayer game! Very curious to see the impact it would have on lower end cards and CPUs in particular.
At 2:59 you mention that you found it easier landing shots with a mouse than you would with a controller, but aiming with the controller in RDR is way easier than it looked for you to be using a mouse. With horse acceleration, you just tap the button a few times to go faster and hold it when you reach the speed you want, unless that's different with mouse + keyboard.
just finished a two hour session of alien isolation from 2014 on the steam deck @1152x720 upscaled with FSR and its absolutely gorgeous, easily passes for at least 1440p resolution... and then I turned on this video... feels like a multi billion dollar company just poured raw sewage in my eyes. its good to see rockstar hasn't forgotten where it came from... the era of 32 bit graphics
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They spent 14 years compiling shaders
Also surprised that Alex has NOT disabled sticky keys after all this time in windows.
@@be0wulfmarshallz maybe he is actively using sticky keys in windows xd
@@be0wulfmarshallz maybe just running its off a fresh installed windows
@@be0wulfmarshallz
probably he has usually, but it's likely a clean Windows install and not on his normal work station
Rockstar really hates PC, it seems
Thank you for calling out annoying extra launchers and DRM's
The pirated version doesn’t need any launchers or accounts. You're welcome. 😃👍
its already been cracked
Simply torrented the game myself. No way I would pay full price for decade old game with launcher/DRM that has been made only to annoy customer.
Yep. I refuse to buy any games that are single player and require a third party launcher/account
This
good to see rockstar has added extra layers of protection against my money
Hahaaaa the cracked version does exist
they didn't even had to put these protections. The price itself put me off. I can get this game used for 3 dollars. I'm not paying 50 dollars just because it's on PC. Lazy port, but can't expect anything better from rockstar.
@@Motion_God yet
@@Nameless-c3y Watch the video, it's not a lazy port, but it's definitively a greedy one. I'll wait for fitgirl to do her job.
@@romulino it’s already on there been there for weeks
14 years old games should be in GOG
GOG is peak and I wish more people understood this.
I love gog alltho I sometimes hate how my abondenware is taken away and I need to pay for lesser experience on gog. Still its a lot better than steam
Yeah but GOG games don't have DRM. Which is why Rockstar decided against that and made sure to include their own launcher which you need an account for on top of steam.
Blame Rockstar.
@@InnerFury1886 it should be on GOG and cost $10
Pro Tip.. Turn off sticky keys... One of the first things to do after installing Windows.
Yep just discovered that today lol
Sticky Keys in RDR2 are a nightmare.
My keys are always sticky
@@JoeMaranophotographywhy would it change anything for this game?
@@karma.2781 As soon as you try to speed the horse up as shown in this video
Despite being an old game, the art direction in RDR is so good that it holds up incredibly well, even after 14 years. I finally played it for the first time and just finished the game yesterday, having only played RDR2 before, aaaand FOLKS, it's been an amazing journey!
Hardly makes up for the cost
If you never played the game and have a PC, it's worth the cost. For the rest of us, nah.
No,still not worth 50 dollars @@imulan
The sunsets still look amazing.
Indoors looks as terrible as it always did though.
@@w0mblemania The insides look fine
"launcher", "DRM" and "account". Magic words for saving me 50 bucks.
no kidding bro
You do understand steam is also drm right? So if this game or any game thats sold on steam got removed one day you'd lose it, so why does it matter if rockstar has their own drm aswell?
@@lukinjo1231 Steam offers DRM but devs/publishers don't have to use it. BG3 for example can be run from the .exe without Steam being installed once you download it.
@@lukinjo1231 In the vast majority of cases, you can still redownload and play games that are removed from sale on Steam. There isn't single reason that benefits the consumer for this $50 14 year old single player only release to require a third party application and account.
@@lukinjo1231 There's nothing stopping developers from releasing DRM free games on Steam, lots of games don't need Steam to run at all because they opt to not use their basic DRM. CDPR doesn't use it, for example.
I'll be honest., the only thing I wish you did in this review was compare the PC version to the original Xbox 360 or PS3 release. Just to demonstrate how far this game has come since the original game out.
IGN did that, it looks remarkably similar
@@НатальяПолитова-у9мDont see why they would change basically anything if they dont have to things like aa are simple and draw distance can be modified with a slider in most engines
4:44 Special thanks to John for providing his main monitor for testing
No multiplayer is a real bummer.
And for that price it is definitely better to wait for a sale and for modders to do their thing.
Rpcs3 has working net code emulation for the original, but good luck finding someone to play with.
Modders & mod menus are the reason there's no online. Look at how bad GTA Online has been on PC.
@@geehammer1511 don't even kid yourself, it's not an option because it would compete with their cash cow
@@Damien-ms8ntBro, they couldn't even make Red Dead Redemption 2 online compete with their cash cow.
@@MrGamelover23 that wasn't competing, because it was a pay to win nightmare from the getgo. it just failed at really pulling people. RDR1 online didn't have that pay to win facet, so it would only compete with pre-existing money makers.
No stuttering in a 15 year old game, woah
GTA IV says hi.
It's rockstar, it wouldn't be that weird
I mean, a lot of old games from major publishers needed mods to make them stable/compatible with later windows. Unfortunately.
*on modern hardware
shame we can't still make games that way today
Idk what you are talking about, I downloaded the game for free, its preserved.
Did you find this on the high seas per chance?
Yep. A mighty fine preservation effort, good sirs.
@@SheaksaI heard the captain has been around for a long time. Calls himself 'RAZOR1911'.
ikr when pirating is the only way to properly own a product then something is wrong
Arrr matey!
Sticky keys is something you turn off the first time it pops up.
There's an option for automatically running with the horse without mashing the shift key, is the keybindings menu, it's called "hold shift for vehicles" or something like that, it works for stagecoaches and horses alike though.
This is one of the greatest games of all time. Finally it's on PC.
Finally it's $60
@@Lattrodonyou can get it for 30 on key sites
I finally get to play it on PC. At the end of the game again and man did it bring the nostalgia back
@@LattrodonbNot on PC 🏴☠️
Was but 2 exist so
pc version also has broken cloth physics if your fps above 30 which is weird cause on console it was working properly
yeah the clothing will rapidly start twitching especially in cutscenes
Flags in GTA V animate at 30fps. This is nothing new
Remember, the PS4 version originally didn't have a 60F PS patch on PS5.
If it doesn't get fixed by Rockstar, hopefully a mod fixes it.
contact hardening is the feeling I get everytime DF drops a new video
/cringe
Mouse and keyboard support on PC. What a feature 😄
2:45 left shift was used in RDR2.. they ported all key mapping from RDR2 to RDR
3:35 if you have Vsync on and tripple buffering and monitor set more than 144hz.. game will go over 144fps cap to monitor refresh rate
@@kadupse You dont need to.. I just saying framerate is higher than lock 144 with vsync and tripple buffering.. maybe you can just run vsync to unlock fps
@@kadupseTurn on Vsync with triple buffering, force reflex with Riva Tuner and cap 3 below your refresh rate.
@@kadupse Gsync only? Or Gsync compatible, too?
@@kadupse Okay. Thanks! Is that connected to the "Low Latency" mode in the NVidia control Panel? Or only in a games' settings?
I just used a mod that replaced the 144fps cap with an higher one.
250+ fps sometimes
I love this game so damn much. I would play this and Undead Nighmare all the way through again in a heartbeat.
Now I'm curious how it performs on the OG Steam Deck, but $50 is ridiculous compared to say Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered
i ACTUALLY played RDR original release on a CRT TV. we only had one Full HD TV on our houses back in the day and of course it wasn't in the kids bedroom. simpler and better times
one thing i didn't notice back then is that the ps3 version had an atrocious framerate
@@marcelo19071998 cinematic 20 fps
good old times, x360&ps3 have actual game to play unlike todays console
i dont get it, you CRT TV its an HD CRT TV? or you mean HD TV for a flat panel? because there are tons of HD CRT's TV available
I'll never be able to understand that werid sentiment for old electronics. It was simply worse in every way. There's nothing to appreciate. It's not like guitars or cars
Why is Alex making a thing about sticky key? One of the first things I do everytime I format my PC is to disable that.
It comes up in so many games 😂
@joeykeilholz925 really? Haha. How odd. And just the other day him and John were saying how they themselves could have remastered Shadow of the Damned.
Obs.: for those with difficulty at reading, I'm not doubting that he could have done that. It's that he is capable of some of that magnitude and yet pays attention to something so small that even noobs know how to deal with like the sticky key.
50$ is diabolical
fitgirl exists
@ well ya but still crazy there asking that much for a 15 year old game
@@Monkeey1 not 15 years old on PC
What I learned from Steam forums and youtube comments is that PC players will always whine about game price. Even if this game was 10$ there will be someone who cries about it. And this 14 year old game is better than 99% of new games.
@ i think 20$ would have been a fare ask tbh and if anyone complained f em lol but asking damn near full price for an over a decade old game is insane!
Aren't the "color issues" caused by the dynamic weather in this game's cutscenes? I think the sun and the clouds were in different positions on the console footage vs the PC one.
That's if the clouds actually affect the shadows in this game
@@brianfunt2619 The game has cloud shadows that can cover large parts of the landscape.
@@no1DdC yes but do they match the shape of the clouds in the sky in a realistic way or are they just approximate shadowed areas?
@@brianfunt2619 The latter. It's in no way physically accurate. Games only started doing that during the next generation, as far as I know. The effect is still quite convincing though and makes the large, empty landscapes look much more realistic.
Shout out to the GTX 670, one of my first ever gaming GPUs. It was super nice back in the day
Evga 2 GB white 670 ftw. And then I got an asus 670 dcuii from reddit one day and went SLI. good times
My first proper gaming GPU was an Asus GTX 660 DC2 OC. It was one of the best cards back then that could be ran with a single 6-pin power cable.
Old man here! My first card was a 8800gt with 512MB Of ram. And yes, it could run crysis.
A perfect game for Steam Deck
Unfortunately, it is very CPU bound on Steam Deck. You can get a good experience on it but don't expect 60 fps.
A bit surprised they didn’t cover handhelds even though they did consider retro hardware (which is much less relevant). Seems like the perfect use case.
@@Jonatan606 I play almost everything on the Deck at 45 fps - a nice compromise that works on the relatively small screen.
@@Jonatan606idk. I’m playing it on my SD OLED on custom (mostly high) settings and getting a consistent 75 to 85+ fps.
@@squelching 45 fps works well? is it locked? can you say the resolution and settings?
Surprised you didn't even mention undead nightmare
are there any changes from tech standpoint?
10:05 shows how massively CPU bound the game is. 75 FPS @ 1080p with 4090? That's a brutal bottleneck.
Yeah that's wild
Well it's also 1080p and 3600 is not good pair to it
I mean at 1080p CPU means a lot
It's also a 14 year old game that ran on ancient hardware, the fact it's running kinda mid at all is kind of criminal@@kiisseli1337
@@kiisseli1337 I think point was that the R5 3600 can only get 75 FPS in a 14 year old game. You won't get higher frame rate in that spot no matter what NVIDIA card and resolution you use with the R5 3600. AMD cards might do a bit better due to having less driver overhead
Bad optimization
Genuinely one of the best games of all time. So glad I can finally play this in ultrawide and at 60+fps
“Don't worry about me, Mr. Marston. I am living in history. I am not afraid to die.” -Luisa Fortuna
* Laura
@@sashen6678*Leena
Not gonna lie there is no reason why this game is so expensive,plus fuck RSG Launcher, gonna sail the seas.
Have fun with the potential viruses, malware, adaware, mining and back doors. I gave up pirating for those very reasons, just bought the games I liked on special.
TBH this makes me lose interest in the game, completely.
@@Peanut-Butter-Banana-Rama Yeah, the Russians want him to get free games without anything in return. He'll wake up soon enough.
@@Peanut-Butter-Banana-Rama skill issue my friend
@@electricdazzFor real lol. It’s like “Hmmmm, I guess I’ll download a weird looking file that says RDR from this pop-up ad-filled website.”
4:44 using a rtx 4090 in a CRT monitor is amazing
11:30 Ah, yes! Good to see the game experience of seeing a random NPCs clipped underground is maintained.
8K on max settings with DLAA running on a 4K monitor is incredibly sharp. EDIT: Sigh, check the options, there's one to change the sprint action to hold instead of keep tapping....
That soundtrack…….so good.
DirectX 12 is fine as an option. But it is asinine that DirectX 12 is the ONLY option for this very old game.
Yeah DirectX 11 is also capable of DLSS and FSR 3.0 look at Overwatch 2. Even older cards could benifit from this change especially on AMD. They should have lowered the requirements. Even old CPU's kinda struggle in this game.
Considering Maxwell is the oldest generation still supported and it has DX12 it makes sense. You can find a GTX 960 that is the minimum requirement for 20 bucks which is a lot less than the cost of the game so I wouldn’t say that is something to hold against it.
Should have used vulkan
@@happygofishing or that. Is also a very good API even more so on the CPU. This game sucks in CPU performance if your CPU is a little older.
dx12 has the benefit for playign well on modern CPUs that have high core counts and average single threading. it alleviates the gpu draw calls i assume so maybe it was about making sure it can get higher fps than the RAGE limitations without redesigning the whole engine.
I've been waiting for this. Thanks!
The colour palette is the most life like colour palette I’ve seen in any game to date. Regardless of the actual graphics.
Right? RDR1 looks so grounded
you can use the option hold key for sprint on horse so that u dont have to tap it continously
That's odd. My copy of RDR1 has no DRM and no launcher required. Preservation intact.
Hi Digital Foundry, thanks for the video.
There is RUclipsr called Brazil Pixel that makes video games analyses videos similar to your videos in regard to testing frame rate and frame time.
He also has a program that continuously measures internal resolution of the game video (pixel counting). I thought that was a bit interesting since you do pixel counting manually, as far as I know. I just wanted to tell you that there is a program for continuous pixel counting, if you are interested in it.
Try there social cause they won't see this.
I'm shocked that you continued to deal with the sticky keys option and just get clicking no instead of turning it off.
I think that was just to demonstrate the issue for less tech savvy users
@@RongleBringer Boomers
0:12 wasn't the games code in shambles in the ps3/360 days and the only managed to port the game to ps4 just recently?
Yes but I guess they conveniently forgot that
Literally no source for that rumor. Total nonsense
@@brianharelick4962 oh ok. tried to look couldn't find anything concrete. even then that is a long time for a port, if everything was fine why there wasn't a port (at least the ps4 one) near the release of rdr2?
@@daninogil rockstar works in mysterious ways. this is the company that didn't release max payne 3 on pc day 1
This game doesn't let us assign the action to mouse 4th and 5th button(or extra mouse buttons) which is bit disappointing
Also according to Steam forums inverted mouse doesn't work while in covers.
I'm just so happy it's finally here, I love, love this game. More people should experience it, it's just wonderful news that now more people can.
No mention of the missing fence on the PC version?
It's a straight up port with more options. Not a remaster nor a remake.
Its $50 people should expect a remaster
There's something really charming about that 720p resolution that I can't put my finger on
I love the random guy stuck in the ground at 11:25
I'm interested in knowing why you didn't mention the transparency effects on foliage. If you compare PS5 backwards compatibility with the PC port, you can tell that there's some weird shimmering alpha mask issues on the foliage in the PC version. It was a huge issue on switch as well. You can see the difference in the last part of the video at 18.00, in the Bonnie cutscene comparison shot. It looks especially terrible in motion.
It's very minor but I notice it too
Running it at 4k with DLAA and all settings maxed is awesome, it still looks beautiful
We got Red Dead Redemption 1 on PC before GTA 6.
Let than sink in 😂
@@Aryan-MNV-2000 It's baffling.
@@thingsiplay undoubtedly 😂
I literally watch all of Alex‘s videos just to hear his sign off signature when he’s at the end of the video!!
Sad that in 2024 no stutter is rare.
*on modern hardware
Thanks Digital Foundry. Been waiting for this video
It ran day 1 on android with emulator, so pretty good.
Which emu? Is there a PC emu as well?
@@lucifer_69960 winlator
@@lucifer_69960Winlator. That's the name of the PC/Windows emulator on Android. It uses a combination of Box86 and Wine to run x86 Windows games on ARM Android.
@@lucifer_69960 for PC ryujinx emulator is best to run this game
@@lucifer_69960 winlator is popular one
hey DF glad yall reviewed this port because RDR1 rocks!!
thx.
If they released on GoG, i'd buy it.
An app can declare it's accessibility options to block Sticky Keys pop-up. Windows has such a feature and Unreal games use it by default.
How is it understandable that theres still LOD in Towns and shadows, its a 14 year old game for 50 bucks,....i repeat, FOR 50 BUCKS!
For the price it's not, but just for it a port of a 2010 game it's completely fine.
@@TheCynicalAutist I know the typical answer "older engine, deeper programming, its not that simple blabla". Thats true, but it simply takes a little more time and effort, its just not the right way to defend companies that act like this, they sell it for 50 Bucks and know very well it WILL sell, its rdr1 for fu.. sake! Stop defending such things, thats one of greatest mistakes in our time in the videogamesector. There are even slowdowns in towns and modders fixed it 24 hours after release by give the cpu more priority...
@@Al3x-c4s I'm not defending the price point, but as a purist I prefer this to the shitty remasters we keep getting. It's the original game on PC. I'll get it if it's on a very good discount. A bit of pop up which happens in basically every open world game is not the crying shame you're making it out to be.
@@TheCynicalAutist Iam not attacking, i understand you, iam a purist too, but the one thing i hoped they would make sure was to remove all pop ups,....but no, its not that its a dealbreaker, but i cant stand these defendings from people all over the place, like the console wars, people fighting and the companies laughing cause its perfect marketing,.... and with the next remaster they wont do it either, cause, you know, "its understandable"
11:30 why is there a npc in horseback...under the floor, only his chest and above is sticking out lol
Thank you Alex! Story wise how do you rate this game?
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Ask your mom
@@Shiebeydh03873JSHUAUbb So it seems, much like the game's story, we can rate your age on a scale of 1-10
Story is genuinely enjoyable and well done
If you played RDR2 You will probably notice some inconsistencies with characters and how they react to each other. I once tried playing this right after rdr2 and i could not continue, but now when im not so fresh there probably would be no problem.
THANK YOU for getting right into the DRM right at the beginning
The longevity and preservation of this game is already completely secured Alex, don't worry!
Nice one for the Bluesky outro.
Alex, why did you not mention CPU bottleneck issues? This game has a very poor CPU utilization & hitting higher FPS (240+) isn't always possible in the most extreme possible rig!!!
240 FPS will never be possible as the engine is limited to 144.
@@WeencieRants there is a simple mod to crank up the fps at the max limit of 1000. and it works without any flaws. just google for it.
@@WeencieRantsIt's not, not only you can go over 144fps with mods, but if your monitor is, let's say 240Hz and you enable Vsync, you'll get 240fps max.
Excellent video, Alex. I appreciate your analysis :)
Would have liked to see Steam Deck perf
Have you ever tried to read the sticky keys message and click the link in it which leads to the menu where you can disable this thing forever?
Alex noticed something about the colors. The problem is bigger than it seems. The game on PC is using downgraded color spectrum where color black is absent! This is especially noticeable when compared to the XBOX 360 version which look much, much better (especially in BC on the Series X)
2024: Shader compilation sorted
2:07 - Bird Teleportation technology
Almost 15 years
Almost no upgrades
A 50 euro price tag
Yikes
Lets wait till the modders fix this and there is a good sale
i just pirated this. installing at the moment. i pirated rdr2 aswell. had to buy it anyway because my older pc was turning off by itself, which turned out to be a psu problem as my psu was too old and dying. didnt even have to buy rdr2. oh well, pirated rdr1. im never buying another r* title again.
It's quite ironic that technically this is a bad port, but we've advanced so far in computing that it's not really an issue.
This games runs AMAZING on my rog Ally. 900p constantly 60+ fps. I can even do 1080p and still stay above 60fps especially with fsr quality
I greatly appreciated your coverage of retro hardware on this port. There's a unique opportunity to compare this port to RDR2 on PC, given the original map is represented in RDR2.
L-shift is the sprint key in all games since forever.
Yes, but in this Game you have to rapidly Tap it
@@DigitalFoundry you can change that in the settings to hold key to sprint on vehicle so that u don't have to tap the shift key or any other assigned sprint key.
Ryzen 5600g (igpu) fine on low settings, not tweaked any higher yet. Enjoying the game for the first time :)
You didn't specifically mention the CPU bottleneck, I believe.
I have a NUCXI7 from Minisforum, with a rtx 3070 laptop gpu and a 4 year old I7 laptop intel CPU.
I did some testing and, at 4K ultra settings + DLAA, I get 73 fps at the start of the game, when looking at the train station. Using DLSS or lowering the resolution as far down as 720p has no effect on the fps. It stays the same...
Only lowering the other graphical settings has an effect, which is a shame.
I feel like my PC should be able to play this at 4K max settings 120 fps.
I think the game is not utilising the CPU's cores properly. I hope a patch will solve this. I can absolutely play the game like this (70 fps min), but wouldn't mind the extra smoothness.
My 5800x/3080 really didn't run as well as I would have thought either. I only played on max for a short while tho
Keep up the good reviews Alex !
01:05 Mandatory proprietary launcher? no thanks. Next.
game is already cracked
@@НатальяПолитова-у9м That's a good news.
That's more the norm on PC gaming honestly.
at 5.46 is the PC version missing that fence next to the train!?
game is already cracked, fellow pirates.
I really want to see how the game scales and performs with older hardware, especially how much it utilizes individual cores. The 360's Xenon CPU was an absolute beast in the SIMD department, and this could be one of those cases where early PC dual cores actually could get edged out performance wise - despite Xenon's deficiencies. An Athlon II x3 at 3.2 GHz + whatever lowe end DX12 GPU with enough VRAM (but matching the 360 GPU's 240 GFLOPS) would be super interesting.
"Multiple layers of DRM" My brother in Christ it was literally cracked within an hour of release.
SDR in a HDR container in 2024, and knowing Rockstar, by design.
Cool.
For sure, this is a masterpiece, but after 14 years it's hard for me to get exited. And the price... LOL
The controller with this game works great. Complaining about wanting fps above 144hz on single player is nitpicking and not necessary.
Gta 4 needs a new pc port thats as good as this one
for the humble price of 69.99 $
@H3LLGHA5T true LOL
Gta 4 already runs good on PC if you just use DXVK vulkan wrapper instead of playing it at native Dx9
@@usm2247With all patches and wrapper installed it still stutters here and there
It’s not a remaster, it’s a straight port with DLSS stuffed in
So I’m assuming more in depth PS5 Pro videos are coming? I’m actually a bit underwhelmed with the video yesterday. Felt, rushed. Like does Alan Wake 2 on PS5 Pro in performance mode actually look as good as Base PS5 Quality? What about Warhammer 40K SM2? Any improvement? Also, does Black Myth Wukong in performance now run better with frame gen because the framerate is higher? Is the input lag now fixed because of it? We got way too much of Elden Ring and some weird choices IMO.
Patience!
They're going to have a whole lot of games to do in-depth testing on. Give them some time.
The most distracting thing for me on PC is the animation skipping, not sure if it's because the game was never really intended to run over 100fps but the horse animations seem to skip while riding around
One of my favourite games of all time in my platform of choice but I'm not giving Rockstar my money after all their greediness and mistreatment of the community on PC.
I had the same crt monitor one of the greatest monitor ever
2:17 😂
Would've loved to see some testing with DXVK here, especially since it's a singleplayer game! Very curious to see the impact it would have on lower end cards and CPUs in particular.
They had plenty of time to patch it and iron out the quirks 😂
At 2:59 you mention that you found it easier landing shots with a mouse than you would with a controller, but aiming with the controller in RDR is way easier than it looked for you to be using a mouse.
With horse acceleration, you just tap the button a few times to go faster and hold it when you reach the speed you want, unless that's different with mouse + keyboard.
You mean scales beyond the PS4 version as there isn’t a native ps5 one
Scales beyond what a PS5 can, ensuring some amount of "future proofing" for preservation
just finished a two hour session of alien isolation from 2014 on the steam deck @1152x720 upscaled with FSR and its absolutely gorgeous, easily passes for at least 1440p resolution... and then I turned on this video... feels like a multi billion dollar company just poured raw sewage in my eyes.
its good to see rockstar hasn't forgotten where it came from... the era of 32 bit graphics
I liked the firs game more than the second. Story was more impactful and believable, and the enemies didn't use the same two weapons the entire game