The double pegging was a new one on me, but makes so much sense. Will be shopping for a handfull of extra pegs imminently. Many thanks for another great video.
I agree with you . The tent that I plan on using for a thru hike has some issues with aerodynamics . I re-evaluted my set up and plan on 2 msr ground hogs , 4 mini ground hogs and 6 msr shephard hooks
Outstanding video! I learned a ton of information in a single example. You obviously put a lot of effort and planning into your vids and we are the benefactors. I also love the word-play and banter with your producer - adds a light- hearted touch. Your shepherd is a gorgeous well trained pup. Many thanks from the Eastern Shore of Maryland. ⛺️⛰🪓🇺🇸
As ever, a fantastic video. Husband and I are just starting out in hillwalking and long distance and wanting to make sure we are educated and well informed about wild camping practices and the technical aspects. We live in Scotland so the by laws are different, nonetheless your channel has become one of our favourites and you're seen as a bit of a guru in our house. Thanks again!
Once again, super video. I laughed so much at your funny introduction! Excellent editing and camera work too. You made a boring topic interesting. Thank you for your honesty, non bias and tips etc.
Hi Seamus. I’ve watched all your videos. IMO the best content on this subject matter on RUclips. Informative and interesting in equal measure. So good I frequently revisit them for reference. Just watching this again as I had “peg issues” mid week. Appreciate your efforts and detail in putting this series of videos together. Hope you and Petra are well. Best. Gary
Dear oh dear. I've been waiting for a proper video on pegs. And you nailed it. Literally. Love the bigger scales. Shades of sheriff Brody. You earned yourself a snifter of Shackleton malt after that. Ian
This has been very useful. I had been wondering about pegs for a while but know one really puts out anything on them in this way. I fully appreciate this video as with many others.
Thanks! Very informative video, I really needed this because I camp in very windy conditions at times. Love your dog, I camp with a whippet and a pit bull.
This is absolute gold!!! ! Guy lines and pegs, so vital yet not in the forefront of many campers and manufacturers minds alike. I need to reconsider what I’m doing armed with some of that info......especially the backstake with tube and peg. Delta thoroughly recommended, been using them for a while now for guying. Those TN laser toothpicks are an affront. Abysmal nonsense in pursuit of weight. Tremendous vid again 👍👍👍👍
Hi Del, thank you 😊 Absolutely, the guy lines are there for dressing, they're part of the structural strength of the tent - consequently the anchor (peg) is a vital piece of the equipment 👍 I'll give Delta pegs a go one day, but double staking (as you can see) is very effective. Thanks for watching 😊👍🐶
I bought extra pegs after seeing your back stake method in a previous video; this experiment definitely proves it is worth doing that in very high winds.
very informative and as others have said would not venture out without 4 delta pegs in my bag, they are absolutely brilliant in soft soil, & got me out of a few tricky situations over the years, Highly recommended.
Very informative and learnt a lot watching this evening. Your knowledge and way of presenting is very good. Best wishes to you and Petra. Michael Ps: ordered some meals from Base camp foods today, Chicken Tikka and Rice and.....it had to be Apple Crunch !! Great service !
Really enjoyed this very informative video. Completely different from anything else I have seen online. Well done Shamus and Petra for your thoughts and effort thank you.. Maybe you could test fabric tear strength at some point by having a tug of war with Petra. She would enjoy that I am sure and we would get more of her in the video too..
Inspirational, I've been camping for sixty years and never seen that double peg idea before, going to look on the internet for some Big Sky pegs, thanks.
Yet another fantastic and informative video. I saw you using 2 begs in another video I understand how effective that can be and as I always carry extra pegs its something I will be doing in the future. Its got to be better than getting out my lovely warm sleeping bag at 3am!!!
A rule of thumb for double staking that I read is, the distance between stakes be equal to one-third the depth of the stakes in the ground. Brilliant content Shamus.
Excellent video and some good food for thought! I have seen you back staking in other videos and until then never seen it before but if I find myself in excessive winds I will have another tool in the box to help deal with it.. thank you 👍
Thanks John, I was talking about Easton the other day with a friend. They were the 'go to' peg and pole manufacturer until DAC really grabbed the market weren't they 😊
Thanks Shamus. Another very interesting video on a topic that many of us probably take for granted in the form of shove the peg in the ground and hope for the best! I particularly like the Y pegs and they have kept my 4 season tent in situ on a few wild nights. However, I always do my best to apply the first principle of survival (Protection) and try to hide my tent behind a large rock or outcrop. 😄. looking forward to the next 'Essentials' video. ATVB Graham
Appreciated this. The ability of y pegs to shred cordage is pretty high. But the combo with the tube pegs (which I'd not heard of) looks like a super solution. I've not really encountered such conditions here (but on trips to the mountains around Nagano, the grimness has been severe sometimes).
a very useful demo . I use y pegs for my 4 main guy lines & aluminium shepard type for the rest. my laser comp tooth picks have never seen daylight lol. your presentation is very professional & easy to watch . cheers.
Having just asked you about new content I realised I’ve not watched this one. So that was a nice surprise. Another high quality video Shamus. Well done.👍
really useful video Shamus! Had my robens tent fail on my on Friday due to wind. One guy rope snapped, then after fixing it and wind still battering the tent decided to abort the camp. Looking into getting some 22cm tube steaks but makes me concerned then that the tent fabric is then the weakest link in the chain. Do you have any insight/advice on this as to if it's better for the peg/guy to fail than them hold and result in a torn tent instead? Thanks.
I’ve never been in a position where the textile of the tent was ripping. Realistically we should be looking for shelter in dips or behind outcrops etc to diffuse the wind.
You are a star, love your content and technique, you make it fun and that's the best way to learn. Brilliant! I've been wandering around for years and to me a peg was a peg. Never really knew their are so many, hay ho! Thanks for sharing and all the work you put into your videos, must take hours to edit. Atb, big thumbs up from me. Dave aka wackyswanderings. Hi Petra :-)
I thought it was from ultralightoutdoorgear - but they don’t seem to stock them now. Here’s a link to Big Sky International- bigskyinternational.com/en-gb/products/tube-steak-tent-stake-peg-kit
Hello Shamus I hope you and your family are well. I now am the proud owner of an MSR Hubba NX and hope to spend my first night on Dartmoor once my sleeping bag arrives. It comes with needle stakes so I thought I would buy some Y stakes to double peg if it's windy. Do you double stake every guyline?
I just grabbed some of these myself. Heard great things. We had a very windy camp the other evening which pulled our hille pegs free, wish I'd of seen these tube stakes and back staking bud
just watched all of your videos, and I love them. I am going to backpacking on a trail with high attitude （3500m ）and crazy wind storms and snow next month, but I only have that 3F floating cloud tent which you viewed previously. could you recommend me some tent Which are capable for that ?
Thank you for taking the time to watch the channel, I really appreciate that 👍 I don't do recommendations or reviews. Everyone's experiences and environment will be so different from mine - I make videos about the the things that I do, in the places that I go, with the gear that I have. What I would say is that the 3F floating cloud is probably not best suited to crazy wind, storms and snow 😊👍🐶
Fantastic content, never seen this before thanks for doing it. You should be really chuffed with yourself . Did I see in a previous video you put extra lines in as well on windy conditions?
Hi Stuart thank you 😊 I carry a couple of lightweight guys to 'double guy' just the windward side - belt and braces in a big blow and you can sleep well 👍😊🐶
Another fascinating and interesting video Shamus. I carry the delta pegs as well as the standard supplied DAC tent pegs with my Soulo if the forecast suggest strong winds but have been trying to get some Big Sky International Tube Stakes for a while now here in UK to reduce pack volume....unfortunately even Big Sky's website in the USA don't appear to have them.
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Thanks for the info Shamus. You are correct Easton do a 6" and 9" peg - just ordered some 9" pegs from Valley and Peak. Now just got to hope we are all allowed out to play again on Dartmoor after December 3rd.
Hi Shamus, I do love your adventures with Petra to some fantastic spots on Dartmoor, however, It would be fantastic if you gave the co-ordinates to the areas you visit. I know a few places in the area but have not as yet visited it all. Keep up the brilliant work.
Great video, really useful. The backing up pegs feature was handy, I''ll try that. Out of interest, how many extra pegs do you usually carry (say for example if your tent had 10 anchor/pegging out points)? Interested to know as I take about half as much extra and not all the same type. Just in case I need to replace a broken peg or add extra guy out points.
I use a bit of a mix of pegs; Vargo titanium shepherd hooks, some Alpkit V pegs but mostly I use Y pegs, I think from Camcleats. I have some Hilleberg Y pegs as well that came with the Soulo. Having a mix of pegs means I can usually get something in the ground and I’ve been lucky I’ve not had any snapped guy-lines, just the odd slightly bent peg. I have the Delta pegs but really only use them on a big family tent as they are a bit bulky. One thing I did with the shepherd hooks was put some red heat shrink tubing on the hook end so I could find them!
Exactly 👍 My Akto has about 4 different peg types in the bag - a tunnel tent is absolutely reliant on pegs, so I don't want to find that I can't get one solidly in the ground. I thought Delta pegs were meant for family tents too - but lots of people keep recommending them? 😊🐶
Nice video, thank you for the advice and guidence. Perhaps you could (if you haven't already) do a video on cheaper Amazon products and see how they hold up to the branded items....
@@outdoorsinspiration9284, I’ve never done it but i will start carrying four additional stakes and make some loops for back staking on the wind side during those windy days.
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Look theres clearly a seriously high demand for these pants! forget your day job and embrace this new line of work selling pants.....
another request for trying out the delta pegs aswell!! would be great to get a real world opinion to see if the "legends" about it are true........sorry
One day 👍 for now though, I’m happy with what I do, with the stuff that I’ve got, in the places that I go. Mind you it would be good to do a test agains double pegged guys - 👍😊😂
Back staking also works well with large tents, so agreed. But I am very surprised you have not used Delta Pegs? The science behind them is simple but fantastically effective. Bit of an awkward shape to carry in a backpack but recently found someone who makes triangular... made to measure bags from Hilleberg Kerlon material, very good quality.
Yes, I will give them a spin one day I promise 👍 To be honest carrying three tube stakes weighs 33g and they sit nicely with my other pegs and as you can see, back staking is very effective 😊🐶
@@leonbaradino4554 Call it innovation? Engineering? whatever pleases, but they withstand forces of up to 72kg. That's a very strong (standalone) peg! Not for stony ground of course
I’ve just subscribed for your sense of humour, not watched the rest of the video. Similar ages with the same historical diet of Monty Python, Life of Brian, Carry On et al. 😀🥸👍 Having watched the rest of the video, got to say, good material, well explained and informative, I’ve been wanting to upgrade my pegs for a while now, but want sure which to go for.
Thank you Mat 😊 I really appreciate that. There are myriad pegs to choose from aren't there, I usually carry what the tent was supplied with and 2 or 3 more of a different shape and size for the 'just in case' moments 👍🐶😊
Great stuff, really enjoy and learn from your channel. General question. I’ve noticed in one vid that you waded a river. Do you not worry about wet feet? I try my hardest to keep mine dry. Gorgex lined boots. Seal skins and gators sometimes. Anyway keep it up Petra keep him out of trouble.
Hi Adam, thank you 😊 As long as my feet can stay dry, I keep them dry. Sometimes I just accept that, due to circumstances, they’ll get wet. It doesn’t bother me very much to be honest, unless it’s very cold 👍😊🐶
Well it's outdoors inspiration and you inspired me to make a video like this but with extra terrains. Have a look see Shamus and tell me what you think!
Crikey! It's a good job you had boots on. I think it's a total of 4 guy lines they've wrecked for me now - I tend to use a more rounded profile peg for guy likes now 😊👍🐶
one disadvantage with the MSR Groundhog style Ys - they will really hurt your foot if you tread on them. One went right through the bottom of a kid’s beach shoe.
where are the affiliate links to these pants? and can I get them in italian merino wool? Great videos as always, your real world tests and knowledge is what got me suscribed
Alas, yes thats the one, Dean 😂 Sorry, buddy - I swapped them out for some relatively cheap Y pegs for the Hex ground anchors - for some reason, the stock ones are as soft as cheese 👍
Double pegging could save you in a storm. Never heard of it before. Excellent review. You just missed the kilo pull test on the single titanium V peg ‘the right way around’. That’s what I use. Best lesson on tent pegs by a mile. Thanks.
I have some abs plastic screw thread pegs that are brilliant in really soft peaty soil where nothing else grips- it’s a really deep thread, so offers a hell of a lot of resistance to coming out, you screw them in like a normal screw, so they keep the soil structure intact, without breaking it up. A lot of my camping is in woodland where normal pegs come out with no force at all, so these are indispensable, albeit, they are very chunky so take up more room than a bag of normal ones.
It's a guilty pleasure watching things like this. But by far the most balanced view, albeit that really you should have looked at 3-5 pegs of each design and taken an average. But since the lovely Petra was in the video I think I'll overlook that ; -). I think I'll be packing a few extra pegs with my Soulo should the wind look to warrant it. On that topic, in your experience is there really any value in using all 12 guys with the Soulo when two guys are going to one peg? I've only had my Soulo out one and it was calm, but my thought was to go down to six plus two guys, placing the two 'extra' guys on the windward side with their own pegs. As per others, the double pegging idea is new to me too, but a simple but effective solution.
Thank you, it's an interesting point about the guys, I suppose it helps distribute the forces the tent structure - but I hadn't given it thought until now 👍
I tried out the double peg idea last night during Storm Bella. I didn't doubt it's value, but I now know it's value in practice too. It was a wild night on soggy, stoney ground but my double pegged guys didn't shift a millimeter 😁
Very interesting Shamus, I had seen you back stake before in one of your videos and was impressed as I’d never considered doing it previously. Do you find length of guy lines has any bearing on their effectiveness in severe weather? Is long most effective or short better? Is there any optimum length in your experience?
Thank you 😊 I think longer brings greater stability to be honest. Too close to the tent and it's not supporting the structure, it's just holding it down on the ground. There will be an optimum length and that's where you have to use judgement to see how much stability it is realistically adding 👍😊🐶
increíble, tan solo un poco de prueba y resultados magníficos. me encataria poder tener subtítulo en español si fuera posible eh aprendido mucho con solo la ilustracion. desde Argentina un abrazo Maestro
Terrific clear vid Shamus. Bit concerned that you lost one guy in 50mph winds, and almost another. Were they chafed already or was it all down to one night’s storm wear do you think?
Hi Peter - The tent was a Hilleberg - brand new, first time up, after about 1 hour in 50mph wind. The guy lines are superb quality, but Y pegs can be abrasive. It has happened twice before, each time using Y pegs 😊👍🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 my two months old Allak2 came from Hilleberg with V pegs with a rounded back. But the notched top that catches the guy could chafe I suppose?
All the pegs that bent took a higher load. I’d rather keep my tent in high winds than keep my pegs straight! Double pegging is awesome, reminds me of old school Royal Engineers stuff.
I wish I could 😊 It's the same method I used to form ground anchors as a rope rescue specialist - we put people over cliffs with this method - albeit the stakes are 4 feet long and an inch and half in diameter 👍
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Interesting.... static cliff rescue in NZ on grassy top cliffs uses waratah fence stakes - which are made from BHP steel and have y section.... they were meshed in a ground mosaic to generate the ground anchor....
@@markusmilne8566 - Thank you 👍 We did some experimentation, thinking we might change, but found what we had was great at what it did - and could be locally made by any blacksmith. Off the shelf fence posts sound great though 😊👍🐶
This made me laugh. All I could think of was some poor hiker or rambler walking past looking at you with your pants hanging up on a tree lol 😂 Thanks for sharing 🤪 ATB Mike StayCornish😬
The double pegging was a new one on me, but makes so much sense. Will be shopping for a handfull of extra pegs imminently. Many thanks for another great video.
Thank Gordon 😊 A variety of pegs is alway useful 👍😊🐶 thank you for takin the time to watch.
I agree with you . The tent that I plan on using for a thru hike has some issues with aerodynamics . I re-evaluted my set up and plan on 2 msr ground hogs , 4 mini ground hogs and 6 msr shephard hooks
The quality of this content is absurdly high, many thanks. Also, nice coat :)
Thank you, Daniel 😊 That's very kind 👍 We try our best 🐶
I appreciate the work that goes into making these videos. Highly informative while also rather amusing - great stuff! Thanks very much.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, Barrie 😊 Much appreciated 😊👍🐶
Great stuff Shamus, interesting, thought provoking and funny. Thank you for the humour, a much needed element at the moment.
Thank you Mike 😊 A bit of daftness lightens the mood I hope 😂👍🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 definitely 😊
Outstanding video! I learned a ton of information in a single example. You obviously put a lot of effort and planning into your vids and we are the benefactors. I also love the word-play and banter with your producer - adds a light- hearted touch. Your shepherd is a gorgeous well trained pup. Many thanks from the Eastern Shore of Maryland. ⛺️⛰🪓🇺🇸
Thank you Cynthia 😊 I appreciate you comments and taking time to watch 👍 The producer is the bane of my life 😂😂😂
This couple is the sweetest outdoor duo out there in the UK and Mr Shamus is one of the most experienced outdoor man I ever heard! 😄
Thank you Andrea, that’s very kind 😊👍🐶
As ever, a fantastic video. Husband and I are just starting out in hillwalking and long distance and wanting to make sure we are educated and well informed about wild camping practices and the technical aspects. We live in Scotland so the by laws are different, nonetheless your channel has become one of our favourites and you're seen as a bit of a guru in our house. Thanks again!
Great video. Never seen the double pegging before great idea. Shows you can still learn new techniques after 50 years of camping
Once again, super video. I laughed so much at your funny introduction! Excellent editing and camera work too. You made a boring topic interesting. Thank you for your honesty, non bias and tips etc.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Peter 😊👍🐶
So watchable because of the content and production values. Very refreshing
Thank you Geezer 👍🐶😊
Hi Seamus. I’ve watched all your videos. IMO the best content on this subject matter on RUclips. Informative and interesting in equal measure. So good I frequently revisit them for reference. Just watching this again as I had “peg issues” mid week. Appreciate your efforts and detail in putting this series of videos together. Hope you and Petra are well. Best. Gary
Thank you Gary, that’s very much appreciated 😊👍🐶
Dear oh dear. I've been waiting for a proper video on pegs. And you nailed it. Literally. Love the bigger scales. Shades of sheriff Brody. You earned yourself a snifter of Shackleton malt after that. Ian
Haha 🐶😂👍 Sheriff Brody or Sir Bedevere in Monty Python's Holy Grail - He wanted bigger scales 😂
Another excellent film Shamus. I too have always used my foot to push the pegs down. ATB Jiffy 👍🏻
Thanks Jiffy, I just can’t imagine doing it any other way 👍 Thank you for watching 😊👍🐶
This has been very useful. I had been wondering about pegs for a while but know one really puts out anything on them in this way. I fully appreciate this video as with many others.
Thank you Jessica 😊 Thank you for watching and commenting 😊👍🐶
Amazing! Thank you so much for providing us with the results of this well set up experiment :)
Thank you 😊
Excellent video Shamus, really useful.
Thank you, Maurice 😊👍🐶
Thank you Maurice 😊👍🐶
Hi Shamus, why no more videos? They were the best subject matter videos on RUclips IMHO.
Loved the video as awlays, great work. I think The hilleberg Y pegs are my fav :)
Thank you 😊 I appreciate you taking the time to watch this 😊👍🐶
Thanks! Very informative video, I really needed this because I camp in very windy conditions at times. Love your dog, I camp with a whippet and a pit bull.
Boom tingz! I just love your content buddy. You're very quickly becoming my favourite outdoor gear/activities enthusiast.
Well thank you very much 😊👍🐶 I appreciate you taking the time to watch the videos and comment 👍
History last time science this time you're a man of many talents Shamus, 👍👌🐾🐾🐺
Evening Andy - I just wish I knew 'stuff' 30 years ago 😂👍😊
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 ain't that the truth 😂👍
This is absolute gold!!! ! Guy lines and pegs, so vital yet not in the forefront of many campers and manufacturers minds alike. I need to reconsider what I’m doing armed with some of that info......especially the backstake with tube and peg. Delta thoroughly recommended, been using them for a while now for guying. Those TN laser toothpicks are an affront. Abysmal nonsense in pursuit of weight. Tremendous vid again 👍👍👍👍
Hi Del, thank you 😊 Absolutely, the guy lines are there for dressing, they're part of the structural strength of the tent - consequently the anchor (peg) is a vital piece of the equipment 👍 I'll give Delta pegs a go one day, but double staking (as you can see) is very effective.
Thanks for watching 😊👍🐶
I bought extra pegs after seeing your back stake method in a previous video; this experiment definitely proves it is worth doing that in very high winds.
It definitely works - having a combination of pegs is always a healthy thing 😊👍🐶
Superb Seamus. Love it!
Hi Nigel, thank you, much appreciated 😊🐶👍
Really great video and advice buddy, especially on the double staking👍. Oh and lol on the clothes pegs 🤣 Thanks for sharing.
Enjoyable as always, keep up the good work in these uncampable times😀👍
Thank you 😊 With a bit of luck we will soon be through it 👍🐶😊
Good informative video. But for me a set of Delta Ground Anchors and job done :) That would make for an interesting pull test. Atb
Thank you 😊 One day 👍🐶😊
very informative and as others have said would not venture out without 4 delta pegs in my bag, they are absolutely brilliant in soft soil, & got me out of a few tricky situations over the years, Highly recommended.
Thank you 😊 I'll maybe give Delta pegs a spin one day 👍🐶😊
Very informative and learnt a lot watching this evening. Your knowledge and way of presenting is very good. Best wishes to you and Petra. Michael
Ps: ordered some meals from Base camp foods today, Chicken Tikka and Rice and.....it had to be Apple Crunch !! Great service !
Thanks Michael 😊 - Reference Base Camp - you'll enjoy that, I'm sure 👍🐶
Really enjoyed this very informative video. Completely different from anything else I have seen online. Well done Shamus and Petra for your thoughts and effort thank you.. Maybe you could test fabric tear strength at some point by having a tug of war with Petra. She would enjoy that I am sure and we would get more of her in the video too..
Thanks Tom 😊 I'll leave fabric tear to someone else's tent 😂
Inspirational, I've been camping for sixty years and never seen that double peg idea before, going to look on the internet for some Big Sky pegs, thanks.
Thank you 😊 UltralightOutdoorGear sell the Big Sky pegs with additional guy lines 😊👍🐶
Nice one Shamus. As others have said, really informative, plus entertaining. Please upload something again soon buddy!
Thank you, I really appreciate that - we will 😊🐶👍
Great video Shamas. Very well presented.
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ATB-Phill 🙏
Thank You Phill 😊 Thanks for taking the time to watch 😊👍🐶
This made me rethink my setup for a thu hike . Thank you .
Great video by the way
Thank you ever so much Dude 👍 One of two of my favourite movies, the other being Withnail & I 😊👍🐶
Another great informative video, thanks.
Thank you Ian 😊 I appreciate that 😊👍🐶
Live the old school down to earth testing thanks from this old school explorer. Hugs
Yet another fantastic and informative video. I saw you using 2 begs in another video I understand how effective that can be and as I always carry extra pegs its something I will be doing in the future. Its got to be better than getting out my lovely warm sleeping bag at 3am!!!
Thank you Scott 😊 Absolutely - get it right fist time around and you won't be up at 3am wondering 'what that noise was' 😊👍🐶
A rule of thumb for double staking that I read is, the distance between stakes be equal to one-third the depth of the stakes in the ground. Brilliant content Shamus.
Thank you Steven 😊 I appreciate that 👍😊🐶
Great Vid shamus really interesting as always and useful tips especially the back stake I have seen your video when you did this in High winds 👍
Thanks Graham 😊 and thank you for watching 😊👍🐶
Hi Shamus, another useful video thanks. You was certainly giving the double stake some welly. As always thanks for sharing your knowledge 😊👍🏻
Thank you Shane 😊 It was all the welly I could manage without taking a run at it 😂
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 😂😂😂👍🏻
Excellent video and some good food for thought! I have seen you back staking in other videos and until then never seen it before but if I find myself in excessive winds I will have another tool in the box to help deal with it.. thank you 👍
Thank you 😊 I think ‘tools in boxes’ is what it’s all about really 👍🐶😊 Thank you for watching.
Interesting demo! Nice Paramo Jacket 👍🏻 by the way!
This is a really interesting video Shamus, not (yet) owning a tent I had no idea pegs varied so much in their abilities.
Hi Caroline 😊 They can be very simple of very technical - who'd have thought it 😊👍🐶
I like my gold Easton pegs Shamus, very similar to those Big Sky pegs. Informative as always 👌
Thanks John, I was talking about Easton the other day with a friend. They were the 'go to' peg and pole manufacturer until DAC really grabbed the market weren't they 😊
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 I've always got mine when ordering from the States. There is a UK supplier now thankfully.
Thanks Shamus. Another very interesting video on a topic that many of us probably take for granted in the form of shove the peg in the ground and hope for the best! I particularly like the Y pegs and they have kept my 4 season tent in situ on a few wild nights. However, I always do my best to apply the first principle of survival (Protection) and try to hide my tent behind a large rock or outcrop. 😄. looking forward to the next 'Essentials' video. ATVB Graham
Hi Graham - You are absolutely right in respect of protection - Doesn't make the videos as dramatic though 😂
Appreciated this. The ability of y pegs to shred cordage is pretty high. But the combo with the tube pegs (which I'd not heard of) looks like a super solution.
I've not really encountered such conditions here (but on trips to the mountains around Nagano, the grimness has been severe sometimes).
Hi Kirsten 😊 At the end of the day, pegs just need to match the activity, most people get by 😊👍🐶
a very useful demo . I use y pegs for my 4 main guy lines & aluminium shepard type for the rest. my laser comp tooth picks have never seen daylight lol. your presentation is very professional & easy to watch . cheers.
Thank you Geordie 😊 - The 'tooth picks' are a great laugh, I still have an unused packet of them 😂
Great vid, I use vargo titanium pegs as my secondary peg for winter camps, with my Dac J stakes
Vargo are pretty tough aren't they... 👍
Having just asked you about new content I realised I’ve not watched this one. So that was a nice surprise. Another high quality video Shamus. Well done.👍
Thanks Rob - My producer like this one 😂👍🐶
really useful video Shamus! Had my robens tent fail on my on Friday due to wind. One guy rope snapped, then after fixing it and wind still battering the tent decided to abort the camp. Looking into getting some 22cm tube steaks but makes me concerned then that the tent fabric is then the weakest link in the chain. Do you have any insight/advice on this as to if it's better for the peg/guy to fail than them hold and result in a torn tent instead?
Thanks.
I’ve never been in a position where the textile of the tent was ripping. Realistically we should be looking for shelter in dips or behind outcrops etc to diffuse the wind.
Many thanks for your explanations, of a usually dull subject LOL
Who knew scales now have to be carried as well!!
You are a star, love your content and technique, you make it fun and that's the best way to learn. Brilliant! I've been wandering around for years and to me a peg was a peg. Never really knew their are so many, hay ho! Thanks for sharing and all the work you put into your videos, must take hours to edit. Atb, big thumbs up from me. Dave aka wackyswanderings. Hi Petra :-)
Thank you Wacky Dave - got your channel subbed 👍 Now I know what you look like 😂 Woof woof from Petra 🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 :-)))) Hi there welcome aboard, Woof Woof back :-)
Great video !! Best jacket too any chance of a list of manufactures pegs
Hi bud new to your videos, the content is spot on love the sights and petra is a quality camping partner
Thank you Jay, I appreciate that 😊👍🐶
Very informative Shamus great video 👍
Thank you, Paul 😊👍🐶
Hello Shamus
Another belter😁😁😁😁😁
Where do you buy the. I’m Sky pegs from? Can’t find on line
I thought it was from ultralightoutdoorgear - but they don’t seem to stock them now. Here’s a link to Big Sky International- bigskyinternational.com/en-gb/products/tube-steak-tent-stake-peg-kit
Hello Shamus I hope you and your family are well. I now am the proud owner of an MSR Hubba NX and hope to spend my first night on Dartmoor once my sleeping bag arrives. It comes with needle stakes so I thought I would buy some Y stakes to double peg if it's windy. Do you double stake every guyline?
Hi Caroline - I only double peg when I need to... generally the windward side 😊🐶👍
I always carry a few extra delta pegs in my bag they I've found them very useful in loose peaty soil
Hi Shawn 😊 They sound like they have great grip 👍😊🐶
I just grabbed some of these myself. Heard great things. We had a very windy camp the other evening which pulled our hille pegs free, wish I'd of seen these tube stakes and back staking bud
I know I’m off subject but can you tell me the make an a possible supplier of your roll mat inflation pump.
Cheers Shamus, great job your doing👍
Hi Chris. The one I use is from Thermarest but it only fits wing valves on recent Thermarest mattresses 👍 I got it from UltralightOutdoorGear
Thanks👍
just watched all of your videos, and I love them. I am going to backpacking on a trail with high attitude （3500m ）and crazy wind storms and snow next month, but I only have that 3F floating cloud tent which you viewed previously. could you recommend me some tent Which are capable for that ?
Thank you for taking the time to watch the channel, I really appreciate that 👍 I don't do recommendations or reviews. Everyone's experiences and environment will be so different from mine - I make videos about the the things that I do, in the places that I go, with the gear that I have. What I would say is that the 3F floating cloud is probably not best suited to crazy wind, storms and snow 😊👍🐶
Excellent video learned a lot , cheers
Fantastic content, never seen this before thanks for doing it. You should be really chuffed with yourself . Did I see in a previous video you put extra lines in as well on windy conditions?
Hi Stuart thank you 😊 I carry a couple of lightweight guys to 'double guy' just the windward side - belt and braces in a big blow and you can sleep well 👍😊🐶
Another fascinating and interesting video Shamus. I carry the delta pegs as well as the standard supplied DAC tent pegs with my Soulo if the forecast suggest strong winds but have been trying to get some Big Sky International Tube Stakes for a while now here in UK to reduce pack volume....unfortunately even Big Sky's website in the USA don't appear to have them.
Thanks Ash 😊 Those Big Sky International Tubes do go in and out of stock quite a bit, I think Easton do a similar product, but I may be wrong 😊👍🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Thanks for the info Shamus. You are correct Easton do a 6" and 9" peg - just ordered some 9" pegs from Valley and Peak. Now just got to hope we are all allowed out to play again on Dartmoor after December 3rd.
@@ashbrooks2857 - That's great news on the pegs - I'm hopeful for the wild camping 😊👍🐶
Hi Shamus, I do love your adventures with Petra to some fantastic spots on Dartmoor, however, It would be fantastic if you gave the co-ordinates to the areas you visit. I know a few places in the area but have not as yet visited it all. Keep up the brilliant work.
Thank you Don 👍😊🐶
Great video, really useful. The backing up pegs feature was handy, I''ll try that. Out of interest, how many extra pegs do you usually carry (say for example if your tent had 10 anchor/pegging out points)? Interested to know as I take about half as much extra and not all the same type. Just in case I need to replace a broken peg or add extra guy out points.
I use a bit of a mix of pegs; Vargo titanium shepherd hooks, some Alpkit V pegs but mostly I use Y pegs, I think from Camcleats. I have some Hilleberg Y pegs as well that came with the Soulo. Having a mix of pegs means I can usually get something in the ground and I’ve been lucky I’ve not had any snapped guy-lines, just the odd slightly bent peg. I have the Delta pegs but really only use them on a big family tent as they are a bit bulky.
One thing I did with the shepherd hooks was put some red heat shrink tubing on the hook end so I could find them!
Exactly 👍 My Akto has about 4 different peg types in the bag - a tunnel tent is absolutely reliant on pegs, so I don't want to find that I can't get one solidly in the ground. I thought Delta pegs were meant for family tents too - but lots of people keep recommending them? 😊🐶
Nice video, thank you for the advice and guidence. Perhaps you could (if you haven't already) do a video on cheaper Amazon products and see how they hold up to the branded items....
I use the MSR ground hogs. Their light and I’ve never had any issues with them.
Hi Perry, they are a a much respected stake 😊👍🐶 Thanks for watching again 😊
@@outdoorsinspiration9284, I’ve never done it but i will start carrying four additional stakes and make some loops for back staking on the wind side during those windy days.
@@Wondering_Fireball - It's always worthwhile having that in your back pocket, so to speak 👍😊🐶
If you like the Groundhogs, have a look at the MSR Cyclone - they're Groundhogs on steroids... Lots of steroids...
Are those Mario pants Merino?😂 I’d pay for this content, after 35 years outdoors I’m both validating my knowledge and learning new tricks.
Thank you David 😊 Merino Mario Underpants - That would be a great 'What Three Words Location' 😂 Thank you for watching 👍🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Look theres clearly a seriously high demand for these pants! forget your day job and embrace this new line of work selling pants.....
another request for trying out the delta pegs aswell!! would be great to get a real world opinion to see if the "legends" about it are true........sorry
I can do socks as well 😂
One day 👍 for now though, I’m happy with what I do, with the stuff that I’ve got, in the places that I go. Mind you it would be good to do a test agains double pegged guys - 👍😊😂
Back staking also works well with large tents, so agreed. But I am very surprised you have not used Delta Pegs? The science behind them is simple but fantastically effective. Bit of an awkward shape to carry in a backpack but recently found someone who makes triangular... made to measure bags from Hilleberg Kerlon material, very good quality.
Yes, I will give them a spin one day I promise 👍 To be honest carrying three tube stakes weighs 33g and they sit nicely with my other pegs and as you can see, back staking is very effective 😊🐶
Very unscientific.
Very interesting.
Going to upgrade my back staking combo. Enjoying the content.
@@leonbaradino4554 Call it innovation? Engineering? whatever pleases, but they withstand forces of up to 72kg. That's a very strong (standalone) peg! Not for stony ground of course
I’ve just subscribed for your sense of humour, not watched the rest of the video. Similar ages with the same historical diet of Monty Python, Life of Brian, Carry On et al. 😀🥸👍
Having watched the rest of the video, got to say, good material, well explained and informative, I’ve been wanting to upgrade my pegs for a while now, but want sure which to go for.
Thank you Mat 😊 I really appreciate that. There are myriad pegs to choose from aren't there, I usually carry what the tent was supplied with and 2 or 3 more of a different shape and size for the 'just in case' moments 👍🐶😊
Great stuff, really enjoy and learn from your channel. General question. I’ve noticed in one vid that you waded a river. Do you not worry about wet feet? I try my hardest to keep mine dry. Gorgex lined boots. Seal skins and gators sometimes. Anyway keep it up Petra keep him out of trouble.
Hi Adam, thank you 😊 As long as my feet can stay dry, I keep them dry. Sometimes I just accept that, due to circumstances, they’ll get wet. It doesn’t bother me very much to be honest, unless it’s very cold 👍😊🐶
Well it's outdoors inspiration and you inspired me to make a video like this but with extra terrains. Have a look see Shamus and tell me what you think!
I had a Y peg ruin a very expensive pair of boots as it sliced through the side as I walked passed one.
Crikey! It's a good job you had boots on. I think it's a total of 4 guy lines they've wrecked for me now - I tend to use a more rounded profile peg for guy likes now 😊👍🐶
one disadvantage with the MSR Groundhog style Ys - they will really hurt your foot if you tread on them. One went right through the bottom of a kid’s beach shoe.
where are the affiliate links to these pants? and can I get them in italian merino wool? Great videos as always, your real world tests and knowledge is what got me suscribed
😂😂😂 Merino, good call - less 'whiffy' 👍 Thank you 😊
I personally use MSR groundhogs and have got Alpkits version of them too.
Hi Jody, I think I have some appkit ones somewhere - The silver ones I have were GoLite Y pegs and are a tough as anything 😊👍🐶
Another great video shamus
Unfortunately that looked like a bent hex peak peg to me 🤣
New pegs on the Christmas's list 👍
Alas, yes thats the one, Dean 😂 Sorry, buddy - I swapped them out for some relatively cheap Y pegs for the Hex ground anchors - for some reason, the stock ones are as soft as cheese 👍
Great advice on pegs.
Double pegging could save you in a storm. Never heard of it before. Excellent review. You just missed the kilo pull test on the single titanium V peg ‘the right way around’. That’s what I use. Best lesson on tent pegs by a mile. Thanks.
Thanks Ivor 😊 There were so many permutations that I could have tried, but I had to draw the line as it took me 2 days to edit 😂
Great information.
Thank you Marina 😊👍🐶
I have some abs plastic screw thread pegs that are brilliant in really soft peaty soil where nothing else grips- it’s a really deep thread, so offers a hell of a lot of resistance to coming out, you screw them in like a normal screw, so they keep the soil structure intact, without breaking it up. A lot of my camping is in woodland where normal pegs come out with no force at all, so these are indispensable, albeit, they are very chunky so take up more room than a bag of normal ones.
Interesting, a friend of mine used to swear by something called 'swizzle pegs' - I can't find a reference to them but a very similar concept 👍
It's a guilty pleasure watching things like this. But by far the most balanced view, albeit that really you should have looked at 3-5 pegs of each design and taken an average. But since the lovely Petra was in the video I think I'll overlook that ; -). I think I'll be packing a few extra pegs with my Soulo should the wind look to warrant it. On that topic, in your experience is there really any value in using all 12 guys with the Soulo when two guys are going to one peg? I've only had my Soulo out one and it was calm, but my thought was to go down to six plus two guys, placing the two 'extra' guys on the windward side with their own pegs. As per others, the double pegging idea is new to me too, but a simple but effective solution.
Thank you, it's an interesting point about the guys, I suppose it helps distribute the forces the tent structure - but I hadn't given it thought until now 👍
I tried out the double peg idea last night during Storm Bella. I didn't doubt it's value, but I now know it's value in practice too. It was a wild night on soggy, stoney ground but my double pegged guys didn't shift a millimeter 😁
@@thewestonfront - Fantastic 👍👍👍
Very interesting Shamus, I had seen you back stake before in one of your videos and was impressed as I’d never considered doing it previously. Do you find length of guy lines has any bearing on their effectiveness in severe weather? Is long most effective or short better? Is there any optimum length in your experience?
Thank you 😊 I think longer brings greater stability to be honest. Too close to the tent and it's not supporting the structure, it's just holding it down on the ground. There will be an optimum length and that's where you have to use judgement to see how much stability it is realistically adding 👍😊🐶
increíble, tan solo un poco de prueba y resultados magníficos. me encataria poder tener subtítulo en español si fuera posible eh aprendido mucho con solo la ilustracion. desde Argentina un abrazo Maestro
Terrific clear vid Shamus. Bit concerned that you lost one guy in 50mph winds, and almost another. Were they chafed already or was it all down to one night’s storm wear do you think?
Hi Peter - The tent was a Hilleberg - brand new, first time up, after about 1 hour in 50mph wind. The guy lines are superb quality, but Y pegs can be abrasive. It has happened twice before, each time using Y pegs 😊👍🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 wow, pretty quick then, and the Hilleberg cordage is good too. Maybe I’ll stick with my Vs which seem less abrasive.
@@petergilbert72 - Ive replaced the Y pegs on the guys for my Anjan 2 with older Hilleberg V pegs which have a nice rounded edge to them 😊👍
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 my two months old Allak2 came from Hilleberg with V pegs with a rounded back. But the notched top that catches the guy could chafe I suppose?
@@petergilbert72 - I've not had a problem with those, they are DAC - the same as many MSR pegs 👍
Shamus.....come back. We miss you.
Thank you 🙏🏻 back soon, moving house at the moment. 😊🐶😊
Hound of the basket meals 👍👍❤️
That's her 🐶👍😂
3/8 in dia x 18 in long rebar with loop welded on one end. Cot on angle at other end. Works great.
You guys ok it's been a while since I heard from you on Twitter
Hi Steve, all is good - but with added complications 😊 Thank you for checking 👍🐶
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 I'm glad you made contact....was thinking about asking the RAF to do a search... stay safe guys
Thankyou. Learned a lot from that
Very entertaining
Nice one
Hi Anthony 😊 thank you 😊👍🐶
🤣🤣🤣👍😉love it great vid 👍
Hehe 😂 Thanks Wayne 😊👍🐶
All the pegs that bent took a higher load. I’d rather keep my tent in high winds than keep my pegs straight! Double pegging is awesome, reminds me of old school Royal Engineers stuff.
Except the Big Sky International tube stake - that took 35kg and didn't bend 😊 and took 35kg. But yes the others bent because they held so well 👍
Thanks very informative
Thank you 😊🐶👍
evening shamus and petra .
Hi Danny 😊 and woof from Petra 🐶👍
I wonder if you could patent your back staking method - so innovative yet common sense, but only an expert outdoorsman such as yourself.
I wish I could 😊 It's the same method I used to form ground anchors as a rope rescue specialist - we put people over cliffs with this method - albeit the stakes are 4 feet long and an inch and half in diameter 👍
@@outdoorsinspiration9284 Interesting.... static cliff rescue in NZ on grassy top cliffs uses waratah fence stakes - which are made from BHP steel and have y section.... they were meshed in a ground mosaic to generate the ground anchor....
@@markusmilne8566 - Thank you 👍 We did some experimentation, thinking we might change, but found what we had was great at what it did - and could be locally made by any blacksmith. Off the shelf fence posts sound great though 😊👍🐶
thank you i've learn a lot of thing ! great video +1 sub ! :D
This made me laugh.
All I could think of was some poor hiker or rambler walking past looking at you with your pants hanging up on a tree lol 😂
Thanks for sharing 🤪
ATB Mike
StayCornish😬
Thanks Mike 😊 Washing's gotta be done 😂