@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I mean you’re not wrong, sailor John is a human, and sentient machines are basically powerless compared to what a human can do.
No kidding. He's perfect for movie specials and I think that being overarching, doing something at end credits or one scene foreshadowing future events would be the perfect way for him to appear in episodes instead of fully in the plots.
I don't mind this episode actually (and it is another favorite S17 episode of mine). Though while it is surreal to see Diesel 10 make an appearance in an episode outside the movies, this is where things took a nosedive to which he didn't appear afterwards due to Mattel's belief that he is much too scary, but like every corporation company should know that villains are meant to be scary right? They never had an issue w/ Sailor John when Lost Treasure came about 2 years later! And what's worse, when he was brought into the Thomas Creator Collective, he was in his evil persona, but then after Races on the Rails, they had the nerve to suddenly make him a nice guy while Diesel becomes the main villain (which bafflingly stales in contrast between that and his portrayal in CGI). I feel the role should've gone to Diesel 10 to try and kill off steam from Sodor and Diesel be the one banished from the Dieselworks through a redemption arc (oh and Lady was added in Brother Bother in the Knapford scene despite one of Mattel's executives not liking Magic Railroad). Also, I like the friendship between Sidney and Percy cause the latter is the one of the few engines that understands him.
I agree with you on that corporation companies should know that villains are meant to be scary when creating them. I like Diesel's role in Thomas Creator Collective, especially his dark version of Full of Surprises and I hate that Diesel 10 redeems in it as well. If only they kept him evil in the rest of Thomas Creator Collective, never banished from the Dieselworks and perhaps continue sharing the same plans as Diesel as a partnership. That would've been better.
@@dylanlyles9453 So you didn't like Diesel 10's portrayal after banished from the Dieselworks but I don't mind Diesel's portrayal in TCC because his plans of getting diesels to replace steam by causing accidents with the trunks sounds like a genius one with his scheming, manipulative side on full display with pulling the strings from the shadows as well as the dark version of Full of Surprises which sounds great to me. That would've been nice to see that in the official show for fun though toned down a bit and not over the top.
the thing I find interesting about both versions of diesel 10 are that he hates steam engines but for different reasons. in the model series he thinks them old and out of date when in the cgi series he thinks they get much better treatment than them.
That seems to be the case with Diesel too in the CGI series, with how he's treated. So its not really a shock that Diesel 10's motive would be that he wants respect
Respect seems like a better reason for hating the steam engines than just being a jealous baby thinking the steam engines are the youngest child and him and his fellow diesels are just the oldest child or forgotten middle child.
@@LePenguin Though Diesel still has the desire to show that diesels are superior to steam which is where his dislike for steam stems from and the reason why the steam engines don't trust him is because he disrespect them first and cause them trouble for years ever since his first arrival which has him telling lies about Duck thus showing the kind of engine he really is, regardless of what Duck did was also wrong, no one to blame but himself. There are times where he was nasty to the engines, even if they're nice such as Paxton and Rebecca as two prime examples. What do you expect? If only the writers of the CGI era retain Diesel's belief that steam are old and out of date or return it during the Brenner era. Things can't be left behind in the model era you know. At least he said the word revolutionary in Thomas The Quarry Engine which was written by Andrew Brenner.
@@snookerdooker471 I much prefer Diesel's reason for disliking steam engines by diesel superiority and belief that steam is old and clanked out which is way better to me and should've kept around in CGI often. Perfect villain motive for devious deeds.
I saw this video a month ago but I wanted to wait till now to post a comment you know Christmas and all. Honestly this episode is actually not bad at all. Is Diesel 10 technically a downgrade technically yes but there's so much I love in this episode. The fact that Diesel 10 appeared in a episode, the night scenes with the diesels, the magic railroad call back with Diesel 10 saying twinkle toes, Paxton standing up to Diesel 10, the continuity between Diesel 10 and percy, Diesel 10 having a horn (no CAE doesn't count), the mini chase scene, and the status quo change for Sidney. This is the best episode of season 17 and no one can make me hate this episode.
Sadly, Diesel 10 in that episode will be remembered as a less threatening villain with the voice of Starscream. No really. For the entirety of the CGI series, the dude doesn’t even sound menacing. It’s just Starscream.
Me too. If he appears more in the Brenner era of CGI, he would've gone back to his old evil portrayal which would've fixed him for good with more malevolent traits added like pure evil and his plans would've been around diesel domination and getting rid of steam engines with no care for anyone. not even his fellow diesels in the same way he mistreats Splatter and Dodge.
They should have gone full out with the whole "How the Grinch Stole Christmas but with Diesel 10" and made a two-parter like how they did with Diesel two years later. It was disappointing how this was how Diesel 10 went out. Could have used him one more time for a movie.
Kill me if you want when I say this, I'm just goin' be blunt and brief here; this is my favorite portrayal of Diesel 10. I'm not gonna elaborate. It does suck that this was his last appearance, though. The fact that it was at this point in time when they deemed the big diesel with the claw "too scary" is weird, especially since they still found him marketable enough due to the gimmicky mechanism that is his claw for him to still be made into toys. It's also interesting to note that that episode technically wasn't his final appearance in an official piece of Thomas media (not counting the TCC, games, or his claw appearance in What Rebecca Does). He somehow managed to appear and even speak with Matt Wilkinson still voicing him in the DC Super Friends Minis Mash Ups story and an audio version of Thomas and the Beanstalk. It's nothing great, but at least they still used him in something that wasn't in the TCC. I can't say the same for other characters who appeared in the CGI series and disappeared at a certain point.
It's kinda sad, that Diesel 10 never appeared in the show after Season 17. Mattel said, that he's too scary... Really? Why Mattel couldn't make Diesel 10 appearance in episode "What Rebecca Does" and in all seasons at all. Also, thanks for this video! Someone finally made a video about CGI D10 and now I can watch interesting video.
I think the reason for why diesel 10 is behaving immaculately is because he’s getting old is probably going through some type of midlife crisis and is trying hard to be evil again but the years are catching up with him and he’s just a old man who just wants people to know he’s still around!
Again, like with Emily in the Middle. I don’t hate this episode. Though this is also one of Diesel 10’s weaker appearances. And the only episode he appears in (all his other appearances were in movies). Honestly nothing tops TATMR Diesel 10, but if the ending of DOTD wasn’t trash, Day of the Diesels Diesel 10 and his cunning could have been a close second. But no we had to get coward Diesel 10 at the end because rushed villain redemption for some reason.
i have a theory: diesel 10's driver in tatmr is pt boomer, and after tatmr boomer was fired and replaced with another driver which tought D10 to be nicer, and in dotd boomer was rehired but D10 was watered down (justification: no normal driver would threaten other engines exept boomer, in cae D10 doesn't threaten engines with his claw cuz boomer isn't his driver, in dotd D10 threatens other engines again cuz boomer is back + in cae, pinchy's movements are more eratic than in tatmer and dotd)
The idea of P.T. Boomer being Diesel 10's driver/owner should have been a thing! But Magic Railroad isn't really canon to the model series and CGI series.
@@joshuaW5621 Yeah, but instead of discussing how it went, I think it's best to discuss how it should have been. I think it should have done is made TATMR into two separate movies: The Shining Time movie about Stacy, Billy, and the same kids from the Shining Time Station TV show help Mr. Conductor with his Magic Gold Dust crisis. And then the Thomas movie where Thomas helps a girl, and her grandpa protect a special steam engine from an evil scrap dealer and his big diesel with a claw
What really bothers me about this episode is that after this, Diesel 10 is never seen or heard from again. I don't know if it's because Mattel thought he was too scary for the target audience or they just thought he wasn't that marketable. Either way, it's pretty disappointing.
It is really weird how he just..disappeared. But what’s even weirder is that they still made merchandise of him after this episode so, why bother getting rid of him if you wanna make more toys of him? weird
they gave D10 a weak send off despite it being mattels decision but he couldve done something more impactful. Imagine him in lost treasure wild stuff. also rip fake & play D10😢
I personally still prefer the idea of Diesel 10 being a movie exclusive character, it makes him feel all the more reserved and special. Unfortunately he peaked in his debut and couldn’t be reworked properly
Diesel 10 is the best main antagonist ever!!! Also if you notice in the missing Christmas decorations diesel 10's model and lighting is a bit unfinished,in Day of the Diesels,Diesel 10 looks like his lighting is dark and spooky but in the missing Christmas decorations his face is brighter and he has no eye shadow which makes me believe that the creators knew they were gonna forget him after this and unfinshed his animations and pretended that nobody would notice.
One of if not, the best things to come out of TATMR. And sadly, this episode hinges on him as a neo-Norman Price. Also the fact this episode came off the Nitrogen era, this feels more like a DOTD Christmas special, again 3-strikes, steamie-diesel still debacle post 2 times in fact.
Why can’t we have Diesel 10 back in the franchise, he’s been gone for way too long, Counts for splatter and Dodge, lady too, Which it’s why I’m working on a new fan made film movie called endgame of Sodor
It was like daytime when they got their decorations back and when Percy asked for Sydney’s wheels, it was nighttime, it was the afternoon when he arrived at their place. (So he came at a whole other day.)
This episode is like making Big Jack Horner from "Puss in Boots: The Last Wish" overly manchildish and having him redeem himself at the last second out of nowhere, it's just completely out-of-character and makes me want to *bleed to death.* I mean, there's character assassination in Thomas, and then there's what happened to the diesel with the giant claw, it's infuriating. And to think I once *LIKED* this episode! Here, they should've just had Diesel 10 try to destroy all the buffers on the Island to make all the steam engines' Christmas a misery for them like in the original TATMR script or something, because THAT would've at least been better than the piece of sh*t we got!
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Gonna be honest, this is one of my favorite cgi episodes, and in all honesty, it really just because diesel 10 is in it. The episode does kinda suck, but givin how it has Daddy 10 in it, I can’t help but still love it. It’s a guilty pleasure.
You know who they really should introduce in Thomas that could be an even greater threat than Diesel 10? A BR Class 55 Deltic. My, those diesels are imposing yet elegant looking at the same time. Flying Scotsman as a diesel pretty much. I could totally see a Deltic be like Diesel 10’s evil master much like Palpatine. Even scarier, this Deltic would perform witchcraft on steam engines that would turn them into diesels, all by using his diesel fumes with incense. And his Splatter and Dodge would be 2 BR Class 20's, the larger, stronger more menacing Class 08's to me.
That is a great video. I don't mind The Missing Christmas Decorations since I like that Diesel 10 stole Christmas Decorations, showing that he's still bad and Percy giving Sidney new wheels but I agree that he could've been better, character and villainy wise. If you want a better version, check out Sudrian Stories How Diesel 10 Stole Christmas where his role as the Grinch barring the realization subverted scene is much more, better sinister and evil, complete with a great performance by SilverBand7 which is exactly what Diesel 10 should've sounded like in CGI by a better voice actor with his evilness returned and based it off his original voice actor Keith Scott which is the perfect medium between the brutish, aggressive Neil Crone version of the voice and the more sophisticated, articulate Matt Wilkinson version of the voice. Nino Productions made a rewrite of Day of the Diesels which makes it much better with Diesel 10's portrayal and plans to take over Sodor which should've be perfect for the actual film instead. Mattel and other companies should've respect that villains are meant to be scary which makes them compelling to allow Diesel 10 to appear more in CGI after Season 17 which Andrew Brenner should've used his good writing to fix Diesel 10's character by bringing back his proper evil portrayal and have his plans be more about diesel domination instead and no care for anyone not even his fellow diesels the way he mistreats Splatter and Dodge with more evil traits added to make him more serious and irredeemably evil that would've been perfect for the show's CGI era.
I actually like this episode I thought diesel 10 being the grinch in this was a nice concept and I like the continudy with day of the diesels (even though I don’t like day of the diesels btw I recommend watching ninos productions day of the weasels rewrite it’s great) and I love the chase with the main cast chasing diesel 10
If we’re going to be continuing this worst character episodes, I pick Toad and the Whale for the worst Oliver appearance. I mean, I understand why they gave TOAD of all characters a good number of lead roles, and Oliver got jack squat
S17 is the good CGI season for me. Not a single bad episode to be made or ones that I never really cared for or ones that were decent that never had me screaming at my screen in frustration. Im surprised that Sidney had survived the fire at the Dieselworks in "Day of the diesels" despite being stuck on a hoist for 2 years. I know that tons of people are confirming this is what caused Sidney to have amnesia. "Sidney sings" was Sidney returning Percy's favor. If Mattel found Diesel 10 too threatening then why did he still get toys in later years?
I kinda like this episode but i get why people don't like this as a diesel 10 appearance. I wish he was more of a regular antagonist in the story along with his own hench men or something.
Funnily enough, I one time when I was younger, I dreamed of D10 having a hit Episode I don't remember what the episode it was called but ye I'm not joking
@@joshuaW5621 Possibly some dumb episode where he is nice and not committing murder like it magic railroad, Then again, my brain didn't know much about Thomas until I started doing deep dives in 2022 or somethin
Good thing the rewrite by Nino got it right. I view Diesel 10 as a rebel who doesn't take orders from authority figures, even The Fat Controller since he believes that he can do whatever he wants regardless as stated in Magic Railroad and could try to get rid of him just like with Mr. Conductor.
Great choice for the worst Diesel 10 appearance I'm not sure which I think is worse, Calling All Engines or this episode. It's a shame this is how Diesel 10 went out
Eu adoro este episódio de Natal, meu trem a diesel favorito está no papel principal, foi a única vez em que Diesel 10 aparece em um episódio, eu adoro o Diesel 10, eu sinto muito falta dele
Diesel 10 was only designed to be in specials that's why he really only works in two scenarios Magic Railroad and day of the diesels I think they were trying to be creative in season 17 and then just realized it did not work. I think what they were trying to do is do a Thomas adaption of how the Grinch stole Christmas. I honestly believe diesel 10 was meant to be a one-off character in Magic Railroad and never appear again because even if you look at all the original scripts and the directors cut he is defeated by the end of Magic Railroad then they brought him back for calling all engines even though that was created to celebrate 60 years of the railway series which diesel 10 was not in. I don't understand why day of the diesels even exist but on that larger scale he works just my opinion.
In my opinion Diesel 10 should have only appeard in Thomas And The Magic Railroad and after that never appear again he would be so much memorabele and impactful that way
Though it's good that he appears more after his debut and even in CGI style which he looks good in (regardless of what they did to him). Potential for more you know. If his later appearances got his character right to retain it properly after his debut, especially in CGI then he would've been great.
Still weird how he would appear in CAE, be absent and make another appearance in TGD as a cameo and then in the cgi special MIR but only in the end credits And then he makes another appearance in DOTD and does what he normally does What’s stupid asf is how every single time they bring him back for a Thomas Movie and then he remains absent for a like 3-4 seasons like tf, not even making a cameo in any of the Nitrogen episodes from the Miller Era Similar shit with the Narrow Gauge Engines They barely have any appearances Tho don’t get me wrong it was very cool to see them again in BMM and which is prolly the best Thomas movie of all time written by Sharon Miller Tho I got off the Thomas series a while back and I’m back into videogames retro Nintendo games Games like Super Smash Bros 64 Super Smash Bros Melee Super Smash Bros Brawl Super Smash Bros 3DS/WiiU Super Smash Bros Ultimate Mario Kart Series and Mario series I will always be a Thomas Fan, that show has a special place in my heart and will never be forgotten
So far James Hughes Percy avonside Edward Stewart Toby Stratford Henry William Gordon gresley Emily Patrick Skarloey fletcher Donald and Douglas mcintosh And diesel 10 railways
Shi I almost forgot about that😂 Still weird how he would appear in CAE, be absent and make another appearance in TGD as a cameo and then in the cgi special MIR but only in the end credits And then he makes another appearance in DOTD and does what he normally does What’s stupid asf is how every single time they bring him back for a Thomas Movie and then he remains absent for a like 3-4 seasons like tf, not even making a cameo in any of the Nitrogen episodes from the Miller Era Similar shit with the Narrow Gauge Engines They barely have any appearances Tho don’t get me wrong it was very cool to see them again in BMM and which is prolly the best Thomas movie of all time written by Sharon Miller Tho I got off the Thomas series a while back and I’m back into videogames retro Nintendo games Games like Super Smash Bros 64 Super Smash Bros Melee Super Smash Bros Brawl Super Smash Bros 3DS/WiiU Super Smash Bros Ultimate Mario Kart Series and Mario series I will always be a Thomas Fan, that show has a special place in my heart and will never be forgotten
In My Opinion I Don’t Really Think The Missing Christmas is The Worst Diesel 10’s Appearance I was Very Good Decent Episode From Season 17 I really like the idea of making Diesel 10 as The Grinch but I wish they Make The Missing Christmas a Part 2 Episode or Full Christmas Movie Special
Well, another appearance had to be made to get Diesel 10 back to his evil proper character as the last one on a perfect one, even in CGI. If only DOTD has it.
@@YouSoJames because I thought when I originally bought it it was official, but taking a closer look and noticing things that are missing, it was a bootleg. look into it and you’ll find them
For me, Diesel 10 is and *always* will be the main villain of TTTE
Not the best villain, but an awesome one and I love the design!! 😄
Though sharing it with Diesel as both main villains of TTTE.
@@levidarling5107 Sailor John is the best Thomas villain and Diesel 10 second?
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I mean you’re not wrong, sailor John is a human, and sentient machines are basically powerless compared to what a human can do.
@@levidarling5107 I figured ever since I found a video of Thomas villains list. Can't argue with the talk about who is the best Thomas villain or not.
Kind of weird how this the only time he appears in a regular episode given that he's reserved for movie specials that last about an 1hour long
No kidding. He's perfect for movie specials and I think that being overarching, doing something at end credits or one scene foreshadowing future events would be the perfect way for him to appear in episodes instead of fully in the plots.
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967I agree
I don't mind this episode actually (and it is another favorite S17 episode of mine). Though while it is surreal to see Diesel 10 make an appearance in an episode outside the movies, this is where things took a nosedive to which he didn't appear afterwards due to Mattel's belief that he is much too scary, but like every corporation company should know that villains are meant to be scary right? They never had an issue w/ Sailor John when Lost Treasure came about 2 years later! And what's worse, when he was brought into the Thomas Creator Collective, he was in his evil persona, but then after Races on the Rails, they had the nerve to suddenly make him a nice guy while Diesel becomes the main villain (which bafflingly stales in contrast between that and his portrayal in CGI). I feel the role should've gone to Diesel 10 to try and kill off steam from Sodor and Diesel be the one banished from the Dieselworks through a redemption arc (oh and Lady was added in Brother Bother in the Knapford scene despite one of Mattel's executives not liking Magic Railroad).
Also, I like the friendship between Sidney and Percy cause the latter is the one of the few engines that understands him.
I agree with you on that corporation companies should know that villains are meant to be scary when creating them. I like Diesel's role in Thomas Creator Collective, especially his dark version of Full of Surprises and I hate that Diesel 10 redeems in it as well. If only they kept him evil in the rest of Thomas Creator Collective, never banished from the Dieselworks and perhaps continue sharing the same plans as Diesel as a partnership. That would've been better.
I agree too
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I hate both of their portrayals in the TCC
@@dylanlyles9453 So you didn't like Diesel 10's portrayal after banished from the Dieselworks but I don't mind Diesel's portrayal in TCC because his plans of getting diesels to replace steam by causing accidents with the trunks sounds like a genius one with his scheming, manipulative side on full display with pulling the strings from the shadows as well as the dark version of Full of Surprises which sounds great to me. That would've been nice to see that in the official show for fun though toned down a bit and not over the top.
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967Much better
5:00 this one line made an entire movie canon 💀
That movie should've stayed non-canon 💀
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the thing I find interesting about both versions of diesel 10 are that he hates steam engines but for different reasons.
in the model series he thinks them old and out of date when in the cgi series he thinks they get much better treatment than them.
That seems to be the case with Diesel too in the CGI series, with how he's treated. So its not really a shock that Diesel 10's motive would be that he wants respect
Respect seems like a better reason for hating the steam engines than just being a jealous baby thinking the steam engines are the youngest child and him and his fellow diesels are just the oldest child or forgotten middle child.
@@LePenguin Though Diesel still has the desire to show that diesels are superior to steam which is where his dislike for steam stems from and the reason why the steam engines don't trust him is because he disrespect them first and cause them trouble for years ever since his first arrival which has him telling lies about Duck thus showing the kind of engine he really is, regardless of what Duck did was also wrong, no one to blame but himself. There are times where he was nasty to the engines, even if they're nice such as Paxton and Rebecca as two prime examples. What do you expect? If only the writers of the CGI era retain Diesel's belief that steam are old and out of date or return it during the Brenner era. Things can't be left behind in the model era you know. At least he said the word revolutionary in Thomas The Quarry Engine which was written by Andrew Brenner.
@@snookerdooker471 I much prefer Diesel's reason for disliking steam engines by diesel superiority and belief that steam is old and clanked out which is way better to me and should've kept around in CGI often. Perfect villain motive for devious deeds.
I mean to be fair if this episode didn’t exist sidney would still be left on happy hook.
I saw this video a month ago but I wanted to wait till now to post a comment you know Christmas and all. Honestly this episode is actually not bad at all. Is Diesel 10 technically a downgrade technically yes but there's so much I love in this episode. The fact that Diesel 10 appeared in a episode, the night scenes with the diesels, the magic railroad call back with Diesel 10 saying twinkle toes, Paxton standing up to Diesel 10, the continuity between Diesel 10 and percy, Diesel 10 having a horn (no CAE doesn't count), the mini chase scene, and the status quo change for Sidney. This is the best episode of season 17 and no one can make me hate this episode.
Sadly, Diesel 10 in that episode will be remembered as a less threatening villain with the voice of Starscream.
No really. For the entirety of the CGI series, the dude doesn’t even sound menacing. It’s just Starscream.
"Sir Topham Hatt has fallen! I Diesel 10, am now your leader!"
He’s one of Thomas and friends best villains.
Absolutely!
One of the best characters for that matter!
Sailor John would like to know your location
Diesel 10 is the reason why I love Thomas and the Magic Railroad I do wish he continued his appearance after Season 17
Me too. If he appears more in the Brenner era of CGI, he would've gone back to his old evil portrayal which would've fixed him for good with more malevolent traits added like pure evil and his plans would've been around diesel domination and getting rid of steam engines with no care for anyone. not even his fellow diesels in the same way he mistreats Splatter and Dodge.
I can relate, i think this is why many people may like the movie.
Facts
Similar to how the grinch stole Christmas
Yep
They should have gone full out with the whole "How the Grinch Stole Christmas but with Diesel 10" and made a two-parter like how they did with Diesel two years later. It was disappointing how this was how Diesel 10 went out. Could have used him one more time for a movie.
And restore him to his proper evil character with remaining bad in the end which should've been perfect to go out on.
Diesel 10 isn't that Scary kids still play with Toy versions of him and Diesel 10 should have been given more screen time
Diesel 10 should’ve been a threat to Sodor… not being a complete joke!
He's pretty much both
@@dylanlyles9453 Yes, but at least stay true to the character of Diesel 10.
Kill me if you want when I say this, I'm just goin' be blunt and brief here; this is my favorite portrayal of Diesel 10. I'm not gonna elaborate.
It does suck that this was his last appearance, though. The fact that it was at this point in time when they deemed the big diesel with the claw "too scary" is weird, especially since they still found him marketable enough due to the gimmicky mechanism that is his claw for him to still be made into toys. It's also interesting to note that that episode technically wasn't his final appearance in an official piece of Thomas media (not counting the TCC, games, or his claw appearance in What Rebecca Does). He somehow managed to appear and even speak with Matt Wilkinson still voicing him in the DC Super Friends Minis Mash Ups story and an audio version of Thomas and the Beanstalk. It's nothing great, but at least they still used him in something that wasn't in the TCC. I can't say the same for other characters who appeared in the CGI series and disappeared at a certain point.
I Love Diesel 10 From Thomas And The Magic Railroad Calling All Engines Misty Island Rescue And Day Of The Diesels
6:25 “the entire Steam Team” WHERES TOBY-
He does appear chasing, but only when entering and exiting the Dieselworks.
Cuz Toby would just let him
It's kinda sad, that Diesel 10 never appeared in the show after Season 17. Mattel said, that he's too scary... Really?
Why Mattel couldn't make Diesel 10 appearance in episode "What Rebecca Does" and in all seasons at all.
Also, thanks for this video! Someone finally made a video about CGI D10 and now I can watch interesting video.
Guys he might be a Diesel 10 simp. I could be wrong.
I think they were trying to make him less scary but Mattel was like “nope bye”
11:48 😂
I think the reason for why diesel 10 is behaving immaculately is because he’s getting old is probably going through some type of midlife crisis and is trying hard to be evil again but the years are catching up with him and he’s just a old man who just wants people to know he’s still around!
Again, like with Emily in the Middle. I don’t hate this episode. Though this is also one of Diesel 10’s weaker appearances. And the only episode he appears in (all his other appearances were in movies).
Honestly nothing tops TATMR Diesel 10, but if the ending of DOTD wasn’t trash, Day of the Diesels Diesel 10 and his cunning could have been a close second. But no we had to get coward Diesel 10 at the end because rushed villain redemption for some reason.
i have a theory: diesel 10's driver in tatmr is pt boomer, and after tatmr boomer was fired and replaced with another driver which tought D10 to be nicer, and in dotd boomer was rehired but D10 was watered down
(justification: no normal driver would threaten other engines exept boomer, in cae D10 doesn't threaten engines with his claw cuz boomer isn't his driver, in dotd D10 threatens other engines again cuz boomer is back + in cae, pinchy's movements are more eratic than in tatmer and dotd)
The idea of P.T. Boomer being Diesel 10's driver/owner should have been a thing! But Magic Railroad isn't really canon to the model series and CGI series.
@@joshuaW5621 You literally said that a million times!
@@joshuaW5621 That's alright. I consider, Magic Railroad, the model series, and the CGI series three separate canons
@@joshuaW5621 Yeah, but instead of discussing how it went, I think it's best to discuss how it should have been. I think it should have done is made TATMR into two separate movies:
The Shining Time movie about Stacy, Billy, and the same kids from the Shining Time Station TV show help Mr. Conductor with his Magic Gold Dust crisis.
And then the Thomas movie where Thomas helps a girl, and her grandpa protect a special steam engine from an evil scrap dealer and his big diesel with a claw
I like that theory
What really bothers me about this episode is that after this, Diesel 10 is never seen or heard from again. I don't know if it's because Mattel thought he was too scary for the target audience or they just thought he wasn't that marketable. Either way, it's pretty disappointing.
It is really weird how he just..disappeared. But what’s even weirder is that they still made merchandise of him after this episode so, why bother getting rid of him if you wanna make more toys of him? weird
Anything that has Diesel 10 is perfect, no matter how objectively bad it is
That is true. Anything with Daddy 10 is peak fiction.
@@Sharkkingstudios23 this might be the best/worst comment I’ve ever gotten on a video bravo lmao
@@D10Studios235 I don’t know wether to feel insulted or if I should be happy. Probably happy.
@@D10Studios235What do you mean
they gave D10 a weak send off despite it being mattels decision but he couldve done something more impactful. Imagine him in lost treasure wild stuff.
also rip fake & play D10😢
Diesel 10 is an classic villain to me
I personally still prefer the idea of Diesel 10 being a movie exclusive character, it makes him feel all the more reserved and special. Unfortunately he peaked in his debut and couldn’t be reworked properly
Overarching in episodes would be perfect for him which I agree with and he could be reworked properly to undo that CAE and DOTD did to him.
3:07 I’m dead🤣🤣
Diesel 10 is the best main antagonist ever!!! Also if you notice in the missing Christmas decorations diesel 10's model and lighting is a bit unfinished,in Day of the Diesels,Diesel 10 looks like his lighting is dark and spooky but in the missing Christmas decorations his face is brighter and he has no eye shadow which makes me believe that the creators knew they were gonna forget him after this and unfinshed his animations and pretended that nobody would notice.
How diesel 10 stole Christmas is better that this garbage
Diesel 10 was a crybaby for the whole episode, but I really liked the chase.
One of if not, the best things to come out of TATMR.
And sadly, this episode hinges on him as a neo-Norman Price.
Also the fact this episode came off the Nitrogen era, this feels more like a DOTD Christmas special, again 3-strikes, steamie-diesel still debacle post 2 times in fact.
Why can’t we have Diesel 10 back in the franchise, he’s been gone for way too long, Counts for splatter and Dodge, lady too, Which it’s why I’m working on a new fan made film movie called endgame of Sodor
Not to mention his last official appearance in the original series
It was like daytime when they got their decorations back and when Percy asked for Sydney’s wheels, it was nighttime, it was the afternoon when he arrived at their place. (So he came at a whole other day.)
(Or I just randomly saw it as nighttime when Percy asked, and it was daytime when he asked)
Diesel 10 may not be my favourite character but he is my favourite villain, but I do respect your opinion on him being your favourite.
This episode is like making Big Jack Horner from "Puss in Boots: The Last Wish" overly manchildish and having him redeem himself at the last second out of nowhere, it's just completely out-of-character and makes me want to *bleed to death.* I mean, there's character assassination in Thomas, and then there's what happened to the diesel with the giant claw, it's infuriating. And to think I once *LIKED* this episode!
Here, they should've just had Diesel 10 try to destroy all the buffers on the Island to make all the steam engines' Christmas a misery for them like in the original TATMR script or something, because THAT would've at least been better than the piece of sh*t we got!
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Actually, funnily enough this is how I got introduced to your channel, it’s really good and I think you have a lot of potential as a RUclipsr
If Diesel 10 appears in AEG, then they’ll make him like Diesel’s brother or some shit 💀😭
That's still going huh...
@@UPRailRoad-xg8cb What is?
@@CakeKingYT AEG, I haven't kept up.
@@UPRailRoad-xg8cb Oh yeah, same. I know Donald (and hopefully Douglas) is coming, but that’s about it…
@@joshuaW5621 Fr. But Mattel deemed them “unmarketable” and that’s why the barely appeared in the CGI Series, so I highly doubt they’ll come back
It’s funny how Den doesn’t appear in this episode at all but dart does
To be honest I think Diesel 10 is so much Handsome In the cgi franchise Better then the model ones ❤❤
Gonna be honest, this is one of my favorite cgi episodes, and in all honesty, it really just because diesel 10 is in it. The episode does kinda suck, but givin how it has Daddy 10 in it, I can’t help but still love it. It’s a guilty pleasure.
Thanks to the ending of Misty Island I have PTSD whenever 2:37 this scene shows up
It's sad that Diesel 10 never had a leading role.
Ik I feel bad for him honestly
Maybe this could be the original version of Day of the Diesels I think
“MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!”
You know who they really should introduce in Thomas that could be an even greater threat than Diesel 10? A BR Class 55 Deltic. My, those diesels are imposing yet elegant looking at the same time. Flying Scotsman as a diesel pretty much.
I could totally see a Deltic be like Diesel 10’s evil master much like Palpatine. Even scarier, this Deltic would perform witchcraft on steam engines that would turn them into diesels, all by using his diesel fumes with incense.
And his Splatter and Dodge would be 2 BR Class 20's, the larger, stronger more menacing Class 08's to me.
I saw somebody else who had the idea of an evil Deltic in Thomas, except he sprays lethal gas
That would be awesome
That is a great video. I don't mind The Missing Christmas Decorations since I like that Diesel 10 stole Christmas Decorations, showing that he's still bad and Percy giving Sidney new wheels but I agree that he could've been better, character and villainy wise. If you want a better version, check out Sudrian Stories How Diesel 10 Stole Christmas where his role as the Grinch barring the realization subverted scene is much more, better sinister and evil, complete with a great performance by SilverBand7 which is exactly what Diesel 10 should've sounded like in CGI by a better voice actor with his evilness returned and based it off his original voice actor Keith Scott which is the perfect medium between the brutish, aggressive Neil Crone version of the voice and the more sophisticated, articulate Matt Wilkinson version of the voice. Nino Productions made a rewrite of Day of the Diesels which makes it much better with Diesel 10's portrayal and plans to take over Sodor which should've be perfect for the actual film instead. Mattel and other companies should've respect that villains are meant to be scary which makes them compelling to allow Diesel 10 to appear more in CGI after Season 17 which Andrew Brenner should've used his good writing to fix Diesel 10's character by bringing back his proper evil portrayal and have his plans be more about diesel domination instead and no care for anyone not even his fellow diesels the way he mistreats Splatter and Dodge with more evil traits added to make him more serious and irredeemably evil that would've been perfect for the show's CGI era.
Mattel should have kept Diesel 10, why kick him off but add Sailor John throwing dynamite?
I agree.
6:13
WHAT HAPPENEED TO HIS LAUGH!? 😭
I actually like this episode I thought diesel 10 being the grinch in this was a nice concept and I like the continudy with day of the diesels (even though I don’t like day of the diesels btw I recommend watching ninos productions day of the weasels rewrite it’s great) and I love the chase with the main cast chasing diesel 10
2 YEARS?? JUST FOR FRICKIN WHEELS??
Is it bad for me to say that I think Diesel 10 is a Wasted Villain. Like he had potential in his first Debut in TATMR honestly.
4:57 YEAH TWINKLE TOES
If we’re going to be continuing this worst character episodes, I pick Toad and the Whale for the worst Oliver appearance.
I mean, I understand why they gave TOAD of all characters a good number of lead roles, and Oliver got jack squat
S17 is the good CGI season for me.
Not a single bad episode to be made or ones that I never really cared for or ones that were decent that never had me screaming at my screen in frustration.
Im surprised that Sidney had survived the fire at the Dieselworks in "Day of the diesels" despite being stuck on a hoist for 2 years.
I know that tons of people are confirming this is what caused Sidney to have amnesia.
"Sidney sings" was Sidney returning Percy's favor.
If Mattel found Diesel 10 too threatening then why did he still get toys in later years?
@@joshuaW5621And several other engines we could count.
I kinda like this episode but i get why people don't like this as a diesel 10 appearance. I wish he was more of a regular antagonist in the story along with his own hench men or something.
Me too.
Funnily enough, I one time when I was younger, I dreamed of D10 having a hit Episode
I don't remember what the episode it was called but ye I'm not joking
@@joshuaW5621 Possibly some dumb episode where he is nice and not committing murder like it magic railroad, Then again, my brain didn't know much about Thomas until I started doing deep dives in 2022 or somethin
But seriously, That plot would have been worse that Christmas Decorations
I personally think day of the desiels was Desiel 10s worst appearance because that’s when his wimpy side came out and also that movie sucked
Good thing the rewrite by Nino got it right. I view Diesel 10 as a rebel who doesn't take orders from authority figures, even The Fat Controller since he believes that he can do whatever he wants regardless as stated in Magic Railroad and could try to get rid of him just like with Mr. Conductor.
This one line makes me so angry. This is not how magic railroad diesel 10 would behave. 6:44
Great choice for the worst Diesel 10 appearance
I'm not sure which I think is worse, Calling All Engines or this episode. It's a shame this is how Diesel 10 went out
2:25 where did that footage come from?
Eu adoro este episódio de Natal, meu trem a diesel favorito está no papel principal, foi a única vez em que Diesel 10 aparece em um episódio, eu adoro o Diesel 10, eu sinto muito falta dele
7:17 2 F#$KING YEARS,
I don't know why, but I'd prefer Nitrogen Diesel 10 over CGI because of the lighting looks too bright in CGI.
@joshuaW5621 That's how The Unlucky Tug refers it to as.
It’s also his best episode by default since it’s the only one he ever appeared in.
Diesel 10 was only designed to be in specials that's why he really only works in two scenarios Magic Railroad and day of the diesels I think they were trying to be creative in season 17 and then just realized it did not work.
I think what they were trying to do is do a Thomas adaption of how the Grinch stole Christmas.
I honestly believe diesel 10 was meant to be a one-off character in Magic Railroad and never appear again because even if you look at all the original scripts and the directors cut he is defeated by the end of Magic Railroad then they brought him back for calling all engines even though that was created to celebrate 60 years of the railway series which diesel 10 was not in.
I don't understand why day of the diesels even exist but on that larger scale he works just my opinion.
8:17 LMFAOOO
In my opinion Diesel 10 should have only appeard in Thomas And The Magic Railroad and after that never appear again he would be so much memorabele and impactful that way
Though it's good that he appears more after his debut and even in CGI style which he looks good in (regardless of what they did to him). Potential for more you know. If his later appearances got his character right to retain it properly after his debut, especially in CGI then he would've been great.
Still weird how he would appear in CAE, be absent and make another appearance in TGD as a cameo and then in the cgi special MIR but only in the end credits
And then he makes another appearance in DOTD and does what he normally does
What’s stupid asf is how every single time they bring him back for a Thomas Movie and then he remains absent for a like 3-4 seasons like tf, not even making a cameo in any of the Nitrogen episodes from the Miller Era
Similar shit with the Narrow Gauge Engines
They barely have any appearances
Tho don’t get me wrong it was very cool to see them again in BMM and which is prolly the best Thomas movie of all time written by Sharon Miller
Tho I got off the Thomas series a while back and I’m back into videogames retro Nintendo games
Games like
Super Smash Bros 64
Super Smash Bros Melee
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Super Smash Bros 3DS/WiiU
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Mario Kart Series and Mario series
I will always be a Thomas Fan, that show has a special place in my heart and will never be forgotten
2:25 Where is that footage from? Plz tell me.
4:21 what is that from
The reason why D10 reappears in CAE will never be solved
1:44 YOUR GOING TO AMTRAK
IN HELL
It's like day of the diesel mix with the Grinch
11:51 where did this clip came from 🤣
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We'll just need to call Diesel Ten "Twinkletoes", won't we?
Name a bigger downgrade than Diesel 10, I'll wait
Brenner & Miller should go on Piers Morgan Uncensored and see what Piers says
So far
James Hughes
Percy avonside
Edward Stewart
Toby Stratford
Henry William
Gordon gresley
Emily Patrick
Skarloey fletcher
Donald and Douglas mcintosh
And diesel 10 railways
He wasn't seen after great race :(
NA his worst appearance is in The Great Discovery ofc bro is just in the background
Shi I almost forgot about that😂
Still weird how he would appear in CAE, be absent and make another appearance in TGD as a cameo and then in the cgi special MIR but only in the end credits
And then he makes another appearance in DOTD and does what he normally does
What’s stupid asf is how every single time they bring him back for a Thomas Movie and then he remains absent for a like 3-4 seasons like tf, not even making a cameo in any of the Nitrogen episodes from the Miller Era
Similar shit with the Narrow Gauge Engines
They barely have any appearances
Tho don’t get me wrong it was very cool to see them again in BMM and which is prolly the best Thomas movie of all time written by Sharon Miller
Tho I got off the Thomas series a while back and I’m back into videogames retro Nintendo games
Games like
Super Smash Bros 64
Super Smash Bros Melee
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Super Smash Bros 3DS/WiiU
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Mario Kart Series and Mario series
I will always be a Thomas Fan, that show has a special place in my heart and will never be forgotten
i still don’t know why bro’s so happy that thomas is found. im pretty sure bro tried to murder him 😭🙏
2:13 Wait wait what where are all his episodes?💀💀💀
I like The Missing Chiasmas Decorations.
I feel like I’m the only one that notice the tally hall reference
Bruh what kinda torch is that?
In My Opinion I Don’t Really Think The Missing Christmas is The Worst Diesel 10’s Appearance I was Very Good Decent Episode From Season 17 I really like the idea of making Diesel 10 as The Grinch but I wish they Make The Missing Christmas a Part 2 Episode or Full Christmas Movie Special
I honestly wish that D10’s only appearance were TATMR and CAE
Well, another appearance had to be made to get Diesel 10 back to his evil proper character as the last one on a perfect one, even in CGI. If only DOTD has it.
I love TATMR
I’m saying it now.
This episode was honestly decent.
(Or I just saw it as nighttime when Percy asked so it was prob daytime. And not a whole other day)
7:48 Bruh you were in a discord call?
Yea this episode made Diesel 10 a bit childish. I prefer his appearance in magic railroad. Not my cup of tea.
how are there bootleg smiling diesel tens and how would u know?
@@YouSoJames because I thought when I originally bought it it was official, but taking a closer look and noticing things that are missing, it was a bootleg. look into it and you’ll find them
@@D10Studios235 next episode be why diesel do right is the worst diesel episode
Do one for Diesel himself.
This was his onl non movie appearance its sad its his worst
I like the episode
Nice! Who’s next?
I guess we’ll have to find out… 👀
@@D10Studios235 oh ok!👌
(And I meant dawn not noon)
Bro WTF is with Percy 6:02
He’s seen things 💀