Forever and Ever: The WORST Gordon Episode

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @killdozer7792
    @killdozer7792 5 месяцев назад +36

    You know how I would have written this episode?
    Gordon is deeply missing Edward after he moves out and has some resentment towards Nia. However, it is also established that Henry has been making long trips to and from the mainland with heavy freight, so it's often late when he gets back... thus, he doesn't get much chance to sleep. He speaks to Edward one day, who suggests he could sleep at Vicarstown, since it'll be closer. Henry asks The Fat Controller about this, and agrees. Gordon overhears and is so cross, he ends up running into a freight train, causing himself some damage. To Gordon's annoyance, Nia is the one who has to take him to the works, but as the two talk, Gordon realises that they have a lot in common, especially since Nia can never see her old friends again. At the Steamworks, Edward and Henry visit Gordon and kindly reassure him they'll remain The Three Railway Engines.

    • @TitanXecutor
      @TitanXecutor 3 месяца назад +1

      That actually sounds very heartfelt, but no, isn't Gordon throwing a tantrum FUNNY?!?

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 дня назад

      Sounds much better than what we got

  • @alolaamii
    @alolaamii 5 месяцев назад +43

    I guess I never viewed this episode as Gordon having a "tantrum", more so, he was afraid of change. That's a reasonable fear for most, and he was doing what he could to ensure everything went back to the way it was.
    And his outburst, I more felt was a mental breakdown. All these changes to deal with, stressed him out, and he had had enough, so he went a bit haywire.

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 4 месяца назад +5

      My thoughts exactly. Edward and Henry were Gordon's first 2 friends and to see Henry leaving Tidmouth without being informed was his breaking point to speak the truth of how the audience feels about the writing for this episode.
      The other thing I don't see nobody talk about and make stories about Edward and Henry's departure was that Gordon couldve also been upset about James starting this after he destroyed the wall of Tidmouth Sheds in "The fastest red engine on Sodor" and Edward left after he was repaired.

    • @alolaamii
      @alolaamii 4 месяца назад +4

      Oooo! Having Gordon be mad at James due to his crash, and ruining their ways of life would have been so interesting to see! Wish that would have happened!

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@alolaamiiThis wouldn't be the first time where Gordon's jealousy and opinions on changes turn into mentality insane hatred.
      Tobias and the half pariah
      Keeping up with Castle

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 дня назад +1

      I suppose that makes sense

  • @giulianodervelociraptorder734
    @giulianodervelociraptorder734 5 месяцев назад +42

    Gordon actually had a heart in the Miller era. In KOTR, S17 & TOTB, Gordon still had a heart. In S18-S20 (minus TAB) he became more grumpy. TGR and S21 fixed his character but BWBA then gave the middle finger.

  • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
    @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад +74

    The Miller era did have Gordon's goodhearted side in his episodes.

    • @giulianodervelociraptorder734
      @giulianodervelociraptorder734 5 месяцев назад +12

      And S17 & S21.

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +18

      Yeah I honestly think Nitrogen era Gordon is better than Brennar era Gordon

    • @ItsCarlos563
      @ItsCarlos563 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@Avery_Productions And I prefer Gordon in the HiT Era over the Classic Era.

    • @Jediah-s6p
      @Jediah-s6p 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ItsCarlos563same

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah, I like Gordon much better when he’s goodhearted and well-spirited.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 5 месяцев назад +22

    What sucks is the episode could’ve worked if instead of making fun of the audience and implying that they’re feelings are invalid. They could’ve tried to cushion the blow a little bit.
    Obviously, Thomas & Friends is a fictional show so what happens it doesn’t ultimately matter, but the show still means a lot to a lot of people and making such a major change so quickly is going to have a strong response so they really could’ve use this episode to say “we get it a lot is changing, but everything is going to be OK”.
    Instead of the message is “deal with it, you baby.”

  • @ItsCarlos563
    @ItsCarlos563 5 месяцев назад +47

    At least Edward and Henry didn't suffer getting even more bad episodes in the BWBA Era.
    This and Gordon Gets the Giggles are the worst Gordon episodes in the show.

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +4

      Fr

    • @joshuav875
      @joshuav875 5 месяцев назад

      I thought that the giggles episode was considered the worst as it was squeak rattle and roll done wrong

    • @dslade6559
      @dslade6559 5 месяцев назад +2

      I actually like Gordon Gets the Giggles 👍 🤭 💙

    • @CTTE06
      @CTTE06 5 месяцев назад

      That is so true

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 5 месяцев назад

      @@dslade6559Lets agree that Kerry Shale had a fun time recording his Gordon lines for that episode. 😂💙

  • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
    @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho 5 месяцев назад +16

    Make this episode about Percy being upset about Nia filling in for Thomas’s jobs while Thomas is away on his big world adventure and have Gordon, who’s come to accept Rebecca’s presence as co-express engine, show him the good side of change, and it becomes golden.
    In fact, that’s exactly what my rewrite, “For Always and Always”, is all about.

  • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
    @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад +56

    According to Ian McCue, Henry was originally going to remain at Tidmouth Sheds alongside Rebecca.

    • @TheLazyFusspot_3428
      @TheLazyFusspot_3428 5 месяцев назад +11

      ​@DonaldTheScottishTwin57646 Budget, I guess?
      Then you have the Christopher Awdry-esque indoor turntable sheds. Why didn't they stick to that?

    • @Jediah-s6p
      @Jediah-s6p 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@TheLazyFusspot_3428the rws roundhouse would have been better

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo 5 месяцев назад +1

      Source?

    • @giulianodervelociraptorder734
      @giulianodervelociraptorder734 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@NitroIndigo Ian said it in an email. The email was shown in Unlucky Tug's Henry video.

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад +1

      @DonaldTheScottishTwin57646 The Railway Works nearby would help Nia sleep in.

  • @Fgeographytopics579
    @Fgeographytopics579 5 месяцев назад +33

    Gordon: never trust domeless engines,they aren't respectable
    Emily: hey!

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +3

      Gordon: Oops. 😳

    • @Fgeographytopics579
      @Fgeographytopics579 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@tonybusch8771 I can imagine Emily teaming up with donald and douglas to beat him up😂

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Fgeographytopics579, Hm, that would be something now, would it. 😏

    • @Fgeographytopics579
      @Fgeographytopics579 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@tonybusch8771 yeah I guess

    • @manuelameriggioli2461
      @manuelameriggioli2461 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Fgeographytopics579 indeed

  • @thusgordonplot4721
    @thusgordonplot4721 5 месяцев назад +12

    Also, Gordon notes how he’d want his own shed in “the frozen turntable” for sake of peace and quiet as he often demands the others to be quiet and they seemed to have forgotten about that

  • @erikthetrainmaster6112
    @erikthetrainmaster6112 5 месяцев назад +20

    Gordon is one of my favorite characters in Thomas. He has tons of great episodes but this one is without a doubt his worst episode. This is one I would set on fire for ruining Gordon’s character up!

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121
    @terencewilliammckenna6121 5 месяцев назад +45

    Gordon could’ve blamed James for starting all this by crashing into the shed in the first place

    • @RWSfan2024
      @RWSfan2024 5 месяцев назад +14

      That honestly makes more sense

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +7

      Fr and why should Gordon be listening to nia who he knows chose to leave her friends to live on Sodor

    • @RyanHo242
      @RyanHo242 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yes.

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@RWSfan2024Someone should make a video about that one day.

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@RWSfan2024, Yeah.

  • @DarrenMcallister-rf4oe
    @DarrenMcallister-rf4oe 4 месяца назад +11

    I just realized the dark meaning behind this episode. Gordon is supposed to represent the fans frustrations with the changes and Nia is supposed to represent Mattel saying they don't care what they do to the show and there's nothing we can do about it.

    • @elnuevocanaldelchilenin425
      @elnuevocanaldelchilenin425 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, thats exactly the whole #ss point of the episode

    • @nickbritt1145
      @nickbritt1145 Месяц назад +1

      I see it as the staff saying, "Oh! You thought us moving Edward out of Tidmouth Sheds was bad? Well, why don’t we move Henry out, too, just because we can?!" I can understand the frustration of the fans who preferred Edward at Tidmouth and the frustration of the writing staff having to listen to them do nothing but gripe about it, but for the writing staff to fight back at them with this? They’re even bigger babies than the fans.

  • @TheEerieMaster
    @TheEerieMaster 5 месяцев назад +19

    I'd always like to joke about this episode, and say Gordon is a metaphor for the fandom when we were told Henry was being written off and replaced by a uninteresting character
    I enjoy laughing at this episode🤣

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 3 месяца назад +2

      I feel like Gordon has the most true and relatable dialogue and facts about the worst episodes in CGI whether he's the main character or the main character to the star of the episode.

    • @ThomasFan-vd3uz
      @ThomasFan-vd3uz Месяц назад +1

      That’s what I’m saying

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 Месяц назад +1

      @@ThomasFan-vd3uzBad episodes like this one, "Up, up and away!" and "Sodor surprise day" is when I think that Gordon is the only male of the Steam Team who has the most true facts about silly writing.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 2 дня назад +1

      I agree

  • @amyrodgers4252
    @amyrodgers4252 5 месяцев назад +9

    I honestly just felt bad for Gordon in this episode. He was just upset about Edward and Henry - the two engines he's been with since the start of the NWR - leaving, and in his eyes, replaced by two new engines he hardly knows. I also hate how NO ONE regards his feelings about this. He's just treated like he's the crazy one.
    I also can't really blame him for lashing out in Knapford, I'd be pretty upset myself if a close friend just randomly decided to move without telling me.
    Personally, i think Nia DID see that he was upset, so comforting him is alright, but the way she goes about comforting Gordon in a "suck it up" kinda way is awful.

  • @LeshaunDinglenutfan7095
    @LeshaunDinglenutfan7095 5 месяцев назад +19

    Finally someone says that Nia and Rebecca should've coexist with Edward and Henry. I'm tired of all those Thomas purists saying that they should be scrapped because it's so lazy. Thank you for speaking the truth at 7:03

    • @jacobjcb8883
      @jacobjcb8883 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's ironic how fans tell you to stop bashing on AEG when they keep bashing on these two even after BWBA concluded

    • @jacobjcb8883
      @jacobjcb8883 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@joshuaW5621 Yeah
      I can't believe nobody's noticed how ironic it is
      If there's one thing that pisses me off, it's hypocrisy
      If these people want fans to stop directing hate to AEG non stop then they should at least set an example

    • @nicholetheotter1957
      @nicholetheotter1957 5 месяцев назад

      It’s so infuriating that after Nia and Rebecca got introduced, Edward and Henry basically got erased from existence. Even the characters themselves act like the two “retired” engines don’t exist. But of course Mattel wanted to cave to demand from the woke feminist brigade…

    • @jacobjcb8883
      @jacobjcb8883 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@joshuaW5621
      And at least they still were referred to by name in BWBA instead of just "those trains"

    • @nicholetheotter1957
      @nicholetheotter1957 2 месяца назад +1

      @@joshuaW5621The thing is Mattel tried to make us think they don’t exist. Henry literally had dialogue deliberately cut off, and in Season 23 they didn’t speak at all. Very clear that Mattel doesn’t like them at all and wanted them erased in AEG. You are the one who doesn’t understand, because you apparently support Mattel’s decisions.

  • @jeremiahsisaias8677
    @jeremiahsisaias8677 5 месяцев назад +14

    This episode is relatable bad to me.
    Gordon was speaking straight up FACTS about how the audience feels about Henry's departure with no explanation.
    The title of this episode should've been called "Gordon goes rogue".
    Edward and Henry weren't fully gone yet as they had some cameos, mentions and speaking roles in the next 2 seasons of the BWBA Era.

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@joshuaW5621Edward did get an episode in S22 which was "Hunt the truck" and it was great to see him being with Bill and Ben.

  • @funwithfacts19
    @funwithfacts19 3 месяца назад +7

    Ironic how Mattel proved Gordon right by changing everything in the Thomas universe with the All Engines Go reboot.

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 3 месяца назад

      They even brought back Neil Crone to voice him and Eddie Glenn to voice Toby.

    • @ReddyToAnimate
      @ReddyToAnimate Месяц назад

      Fun fact about All Engines Go Gordon: Sir Topham Hatt just didn’t feel like telling the engines on what tasks they need to do so he told Gordon to do it for him.

  • @stuartbarclay7940
    @stuartbarclay7940 5 месяцев назад +19

    Me: Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy... I don't want your GARBGE, Mattel!
    Mattel: Oh, please! Oh, please. Oh, please, oh, please...
    Me: I don't think you grasp... the severity of the situation.
    In all seriousness, this would definitely be the worst Gordon episode ever! I would rather watch the Tracks to Big Adventures episode Changes to the Railway over it anyday. Link: ruclips.net/video/bZflkJhSQxc/видео.htmlsi=JlL4jpXUjo2k07Le

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +3

      Hit Entertainment: *(Growls Angrily)* Murderer.
      Mattel: Hit… Hit, Please? Please, have mercy, I beg you.
      Hit Entertainment: You don’t deserve to live.

  • @masterJ2004
    @masterJ2004 4 месяца назад +5

    I can confirm Henry had NO ACTUAL REASON to move to Vicarstown...🤦‍♂️

  • @EwanFanstudios
    @EwanFanstudios 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome Job Also I Love Gordon The Big Engine He’s One Of My Favorite Characters

  • @CakeKingYT
    @CakeKingYT 5 месяцев назад +6

    5:13 Marion with The Express 😂💀💀

  • @supermariof0521
    @supermariof0521 5 месяцев назад +4

    How would I fix it? Simple. Instead of having Gordon act like a spoiled little child, you could instead just simply have him be glum about Edward leaving Tidmouth sheds cause he knew Edward for many years and had learned a lot from elderly K2. Like maybe he would try not to show his glum side and try to get on with his work, but the more he tries to focus on his express duties, the more unhappy he becomes. Eventually he finally opens up to Edward about how he felt he was being sent away and replaced. Turns out Nia had also been unsure about her new life on Sodor as it is obviously very different from the African railway she used to work on. She tells Gordon that she knows how he feels and how she had friends she used to know on her old railway and how she sometimes feels sad that she's very far away from them. Edward also understands where Gordon is coming from, but is proud of him for trying to remain mature about Edward leaving Tidmouth, but explains that he's not leaving Sodor and is simply moving to Wellsworth which is part of his branchline, but sees just how much Gordon has grown personality wise and how Gordon learned so much and gained a lot of respect for Edward. However Gordon feels guilty for not giving Nia a chance and apologizes to her, but Nia tells him that she understood where he was coming from, cause she's having a difficult time trying to get used to her new life on Sodor, and Gordon tries to make it up to Nia by offering to show her around Sodor to help her get more aquainted with the North Western Railway. And the episode ends with Gordon being happy he had made a new friend and that Edward was remaining on Sodor, but just living in a new shed closer to his branchline.

  • @thomasrobloxgaming4133
    @thomasrobloxgaming4133 5 месяцев назад +6

    What sucks even more is that this episode was written for Mattel to purposely mock the fans who complained the changes of the show. What Gordon is represents here is us fans, and Topham is Mattel. I don’t why the controller decided to scold him rather than understanding his feelings, I hate it so much. I think the crew could’ve use the roundhouse sheds in the RWS so they don’t need to kick Edward, Henry, and also Toby. This episode also disrespects the legacy of Wilbert Awdry himself because Mattel just fucking separate the first three that started the franchise. I understand why the crew wanting more female characters in the Steam Team. The concept is great but execution is terrible. I know why Gordon decided to throw a tantrum, but it doesn't change the fact he is out of character here. Awdry, I'm sorry if Mattel disrespected your legacy. Thomas is never meant to be a kids show and the company made it like one. Mattel only cares for money. It's no doubt how the Thomas fandom is better than the show. Thomas and Friends maybe a kids show but can be also watched by adults. Awdry never talks down only to children when it comes to his stories. There, I hope Mattel gets bankrupt soon. It's such a disgrace here.

  • @Driftking0311
    @Driftking0311 5 месяцев назад +3

    I didn’t expect that Gordon had the worse than Henry, and yea I get why he was upset but like he didn’t have to be a big baby and do other dumb stuff. I think Gordon in the model era did great. Cgi also did good, but not as good as BWBA era.

  • @ConfusedMonkeVr
    @ConfusedMonkeVr 5 месяцев назад +12

    I do understand why he got mad. Edward and Henry where his first friends

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +4

      I mean, yes, sure, Gordon can be somewhat quite an annoying bully to others from time to time, but that isn’t what we wanted of him, really, he’s really the other engines’ friend, no matter how angry he gets with them, or how angry they get with him.

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +3

      Good/​​⁠Fair Point.

  • @TobyOliverHenryFan
    @TobyOliverHenryFan 5 месяцев назад +7

    4:03 I didn't know Gordon had a mental breakdown.
    I still don't understand how you have one of those. And frankly, I don't want to know.

  • @thusgordonplot4721
    @thusgordonplot4721 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thomas: Don’t go back, saved you, wonky whistle, or too loud Thomas.
    Emily: As good as Gordon, Emily knows best, Emily and the special coaches, or any others.
    Skarloey: Skarloey the brave, wharf and peace, or push me pull you.

  • @eliseorossiproductions6348
    @eliseorossiproductions6348 5 месяцев назад +4

    The fantasy sequence is a perfect representation for the current state of the franchise.

  • @blackraptorex2469
    @blackraptorex2469 5 месяцев назад +4

    As someone who considers Gordon to be my favorite character in all of TTTE and Gordon literally having the strongest and best episodes of the show, this episode was just painful to watch, the fact Gordon would throw a tantrum is so out of character for him, sure he is grumpy and can be arrogant and pompous but by all means he would not act childish about it, the only characters of the main cast that I could consider throwing tantrums are Thomas and James, that’s it. The overall concept of Gordon having to accept change is such a good idea but MAN was it executed atrociously, plus having Nia to tell Gordon oh suck it and accept it just pisses me off because like huh??? Dude this is just wrong in so many levels man, Edward should’ve been the one to tell him that he needs to accept the change not having the new comer tell him!

  • @aegontan686
    @aegontan686 5 месяцев назад +7

    I think they used Gordon to represent and make fun of Thomas fans in this episode

  • @amirtouhami2406
    @amirtouhami2406 Месяц назад +2

    Episode is fandom's reaction on Mattel actions, but with Gordon and Sir Topham Hatt. Just my opinion.

  • @Keaness
    @Keaness 5 месяцев назад +3

    Gordon felt the most relatable during that episode. Who wouldn’t react like that!

  • @megariderfire1994
    @megariderfire1994 5 месяцев назад +7

    Yeah...this really was a lowest Gordon has ever been. Imagine Sodor's top link prestigious express engine of the famous A1 class of the great Sir Nigel Gresley...acting like one hell of an immature thoughtless manchild. Sure, the Brenner Era flanderized him to a grumpy selfish cynical jerk but never to THIS point. That and Gordon was seriously the only one that even cared when two of the engines that have been with him since like the beginning and not even the two engines (Edward and Henry of course) that chose to leave were the ones trying to comfort them and explain their decisions.
    Anyways, I'm curious to see more installments of the worst episodes for certain Thomas characters. Looking forward to Thomas, Emily, and the Scottish Twins someday!

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад

      There are no worst episodes about Thomas, but, I can think of a couple for Emily and Donald & Douglas.

  • @cutelittlepuppi_
    @cutelittlepuppi_ 22 дня назад

    I feel like this episode was vent art you can feel that frustration being put into Gordon

  • @callum110597
    @callum110597 5 месяцев назад +6

    I actually like "Forever and Ever", even though it sucks that Henry just randomly left Tidmouth Sheds just for Vicarstown! Just why? And yeah, the whole Steam Team concept is a big joke, when there are loads of other engines we wanna see, not just Thomas and seven other well-known characters. 😒 But still, I favour this over "Gordon Gets the Giggles", "The Frozen Turntable" and especially "Gordon and Ferdinand".

    • @callum110597
      @callum110597 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@joshuaW5621 Me too; it made better sense with Rebecca introduced much earlier and Henry staying at Tidmouth Sheds.

  • @seanagulan9481
    @seanagulan9481 5 месяцев назад +2

    Gordon is basically the T&F fandom reacting to this…

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121
    @terencewilliammckenna6121 5 месяцев назад +8

    Obviously similar to fans’ complaints on the BWBA era

  • @thusgordonplot4721
    @thusgordonplot4721 5 месяцев назад +5

    It must be that Henry moves to vicarstown as he often delivers cargo trains to the mainland as told in tale of the brave and journey beyond Sodor

    • @nicholetheotter1957
      @nicholetheotter1957 5 месяцев назад

      This is most likely the theory behind it, as Vicarstown is on the eastern side of Sodor and the last stop before the Mainland. He was likely having to travel to the Mainland a lot more than he used to, meaning he hasn’t been able to spend as much time on Sodor and thus had to live closer to the Mainland to fulfil the demand. Henry never even interacted with Rosie, so pairing them up was such a weird move on Mattel’s part.

  • @robertprichard203
    @robertprichard203 Месяц назад +3

    Forever and ever is actually satire because gordon represents the fandom and everyone else represents mattel. Change my mind.

  • @Anthonyvideogame
    @Anthonyvideogame 21 день назад +1

    I felt like Percy would’ve been a better character for this episode for some reason

  • @mee_is_sus
    @mee_is_sus 5 месяцев назад +4

    4:14 My reaction to all of mattel's business decisions:

  • @thesudriana016
    @thesudriana016 5 месяцев назад +4

    Alongside Frozen Turntable - Forever & Ever or any other Brenner/BWBA Gordon appearance didn't do my favorite Thomas character justice (the only exceptions I make in his main roles where he is genuine in my opinion are Gordon Runs Dry, Confused Coaches and Gordon & Rebecca Coming Through!). However, the early CGI seasons (when Sharon Miller was headwriter formally) handled Gordon well cause it was under HiT Entertainment's ownership until Mattel swallowed the company up and it became no more.
    I used to like this episode prior, but now I absolutely hated it! Gordon's tantrum is unacceptable and I see the potential in what the concept was meant to be about, but how it was handled is so turbulent. I will say it wasn't meant to be written in the first place - cause Rebecca was meant to be in Edward's place at Tidmouth and Henry never leaves for Vicarstown permanently, but then production issues occurs in Arc's bankruptcy, TAB fast-tracked into their schedule, etc. Series 21 where she was meant to be a part of was cut short and was pushed forward to this era (Confusion w/o Delay and Chucklesome Trucks).
    And I agree that the Steam Team concept doesn't work - they portray Tidmouth as a superhero lead corporation group when it and the main cast and other characters can use it at different times like a real locomotive shed. They just wrote themselves into a pickle, didn't they?

  • @tudorbrancuturcu5996
    @tudorbrancuturcu5996 4 месяца назад +1

    Honestly the fantasy sequence makes Skibidi Toilet look like The station joke!

  • @FriedWafflez8208
    @FriedWafflez8208 Месяц назад

    The sad part is this episode could have been a meta way to tell the fans that their feelings on all the big changes, but then I remember it was 138302% unintentional since they wrote Henry out in a single line

  • @TrampyFan
    @TrampyFan 5 месяцев назад +3

    If Edward talk about changes throughout his life it would had worked

  • @margogoralski6294
    @margogoralski6294 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nice video, dude. I always found this video to be a very bitter and condescending call out to upset fans, along with regressing Gordon's personality. Writing off Henry was super rushed and unnecessary and just further sours this era and makes it rather spiteful. Also, I love your usage of the FNAF SB daycare theme in your outro.

  • @amitysluzara2022
    @amitysluzara2022 5 месяцев назад +3

    Forever and Ever feels like it was wrote to anger the fans. The worst Gordon episode imo is Gordon Gets The Gigglee

  • @mee_is_sus
    @mee_is_sus 5 месяцев назад +2

    4:50 Bro predicted all engines go 💀

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121
    @terencewilliammckenna6121 5 месяцев назад +4

    They should’ve given Toby a berth at Tidmouth sheds

  • @D.S_Productions
    @D.S_Productions 5 месяцев назад +5

    4:49 Bro was on Welsh Coal 😭

    • @TheTSMBoi
      @TheTSMBoi 3 месяца назад

      Nah bro was witnessing what Trackmaster has become nowadays 💀🙏

  • @Enterprisingexpress02
    @Enterprisingexpress02 5 месяцев назад +3

    Gordon is us in this episode, and Mattel is saying that we all are just a bunch of babies throwing tantrums… I hate Bwba so much…

    • @Jeisr4207-bc5ui
      @Jeisr4207-bc5ui 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@joshuaW5621 BWBA never had a chance to be good

  • @PCMan8922
    @PCMan8922 5 месяцев назад +6

    I knew Gordon has terrible episodes! I knew it! Can't wait for Emily.

    • @KTWhatsup
      @KTWhatsup 5 месяцев назад +1

      My money's on one of the HIT Era episodes.

  • @Gordonfan4368
    @Gordonfan4368 2 месяца назад +2

    Poor old Gordon he got some real crappy treatment from season 18 onwards honestly I feel bad for the guy. 😢

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 5 месяцев назад +2

    This episode is honestly less of a problem with Gordon and more so a problem with the fact this episode was made out of spite but that it obvious wasn’t much Brenner but Mattel’s lashing out

  • @tudorbrancuturcu5996
    @tudorbrancuturcu5996 4 месяца назад +1

    Gordon isn’t actually Gordon. But Bill and Ben in disguise

  • @HaruDaRabbit
    @HaruDaRabbit 5 месяцев назад +1

    i remember making a post on tumblr about it, how basically everyone just called gordon a crybaby over practically losing his friends

    • @HaruDaRabbit
      @HaruDaRabbit 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@joshuaW5621 he has every right to be upset, like imagine your two best friends leave and you only see them for 30 seconds a day, and being made fun of because your depressed

  • @Trainboy-ee4us
    @Trainboy-ee4us Месяц назад +1

    Does anyone think Andrew Brenner was forced to write this episode? I’m kind of feeling like Mattel said “Write this episode and make Gordon as unlikable as possible or we’ll snap your neck!”

  • @TomJaeckels
    @TomJaeckels 2 дня назад

    Gordon was basically beign an idiot in that episode. He kept getting angry.

  • @CakeKingYT
    @CakeKingYT 5 месяцев назад +3

    I wonder who’s next! Thomas? Emily? Donald & Douglas?

  • @tudorbrancuturcu5996
    @tudorbrancuturcu5996 4 месяца назад +3

    Again the kids toys play version is better. In it they say Gordon’s upset because of the new changes to TWR. And Edward and Henry got replaced because the producers wanted him robbed from the steam team. In other words that version in funny!

  • @tomytrainguy7975
    @tomytrainguy7975 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! I think the reason why Henry moved to Vicarstown sheds is because he delivers goods trains to the mainland along with the flying kipper. But the real reason why Edward and Henry were replaced by Nia and Rebecca was because Mattel wanted to fix the gender balance in the steam team even though it was the dumbest decision ever made.

    • @cadenthethomasexpert1379
      @cadenthethomasexpert1379 5 месяцев назад

      You Think!
      I Will NEVER Forgive You Mattel!
      🖕🤬🖕

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад +2

      Though Ian McCue wanted Henry to stay at Tidmouth Sheds alongside Rebecca originally.

    • @tomytrainguy7975
      @tomytrainguy7975 29 дней назад

      @@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967That’s true, but the BWBA came out and Nia was introduced. So they just removed Henry from the show and replaced him with Rebecca.

  • @IsaSyed
    @IsaSyed 29 дней назад

    5:00 seeing these rainbow tracks looks like a roblox obby

  • @jonathanadair6847
    @jonathanadair6847 5 месяцев назад +2

    You know how the Unlucky Tug was bewildered at how David Mitton wrote Edward the Very Useful Engine? Well, I’m completely bewildered as to how Andrew Brenner was credited for this absolute disrespectful junk. Me: WHAT DO YOU MEAN ANDREW BRENNER WROTE THIS ONE!?

    • @jonathanadair6847
      @jonathanadair6847 5 месяцев назад

      @@joshuaW5621 True, but that one’s not as egregious as this one.

    • @Trainboy-ee4us
      @Trainboy-ee4us Месяц назад

      @@jonathanadair6847I have a feeling that Mattel forced Brenner to write this episode.

  • @TryTheRoachBurger
    @TryTheRoachBurger 5 месяцев назад +2

    i find it really interesting on andrew brenner wrote this ep. he either just gave up know how the show was going down hill or it was overhalled by a new team making it bwba - fied

    • @D10Studios235
      @D10Studios235  5 месяцев назад

      @@TryTheRoachBurger huh, I just noticed that!

  • @TryTheRoachBurger
    @TryTheRoachBurger 5 месяцев назад +2

    not to make twelve comments, i do think the detail of gordon caring about how edward left and nia replaced him, i mean the only good way i could see this is that gordons irrational fear is being replaced by the next big thing, he depicts nia as the bad guy, the next big thing that took out one of sodors oldest with gordon knowing hes next, and at the end, he sees henry being replaced (again showings hes grown a kinship with both engines) again, now knowing he would be next. as in the cgi canon, gordon was the third engine, henry (2nd) was faulty, making mr fat controller purchase gordon. thats the only way i could see this making sense, but everyone knows a 4 year old wont understand this XD

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад

      That would be a perfect rewrite for the episode

  • @CTTE06
    @CTTE06 5 месяцев назад +7

    And *ANDREW BRENNER* wrote it! Me thinking Mattel were in his way to force Nia in there instead of Edward or Henry for the night shed scene, Henry’s single line of dialogue, Gordon’s Tantrum, AND THE FUCKING (idk what they’re called but basically what you called it “the brain rot sequence). It’s by far the worst BWBA episode outta the entire 3 seasons
    Also you’re gonna regret getting Twitter. It’s the worst social media platform, and everyone is toxic over a train with a face.

    • @kevin-2.1
      @kevin-2.1 5 месяцев назад +1

      I was surprise too that Andrew wrote this!

    • @dslade6559
      @dslade6559 5 месяцев назад +2

      What else did you expect from him? Brenner hates Gordon for some reason and all episodes he writes with Gordon has him suffering from indignity and disgrace.

    • @kevin-2.1
      @kevin-2.1 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@dslade6559 whoa, I didn’t know until now that Brenner hates Gordon 🤯.

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo 5 месяцев назад +2

      Sometimes writers will be credited for a script that was heavily altered.

    • @thegoattrain
      @thegoattrain 5 месяцев назад +1

      "it's toxic they're exhiling pedophiles and racists but they're racists that make videos I like!"

  • @karenfan010
    @karenfan010 5 месяцев назад +5

    4:09 lost treasure but the roles are reversed.

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh-No, not that again, please don’t remind me.

  • @arthurengine
    @arthurengine 5 месяцев назад +2

    At the end in the LEGO scene, I heard Chuck from Budgie the Little Helicopter.
    But as awful as Forever and Ever was, I wouldn't call it Gordon's worst episode. That dishonour would go to Bust My Buffers.

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bust my buffers has a good scene with Thomas and Gordon though

    • @arthurengine
      @arthurengine 5 месяцев назад

      @@Avery_Productions But Salty said "An engine isn't an engine without buffers".

    • @KTWhatsup
      @KTWhatsup 5 месяцев назад

      @@arthurengine And...? That's it?

    • @arthurengine
      @arthurengine 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@KTWhatsup Duke? Bertram?

    • @KTWhatsup
      @KTWhatsup 5 месяцев назад

      @@arthurengine Ah, I see.

  • @magicrailstudios
    @magicrailstudios 5 месяцев назад +2

    I think that the worst thing about this episode was that I'm pretty sure it was written with the intent to mock the fandom, who were not in favour of BWBA.

  • @KTWhatsup
    @KTWhatsup 5 месяцев назад +3

    It's, possible Henry moved to Vicarstown to have a closer place to sleep after taking The Flying Kipper.

    • @nicholetheotter1957
      @nicholetheotter1957 5 месяцев назад +1

      Not just the Flying Kipper, but probably other heavy goods work too that requires him to frequently go to the Mainland, so he figured that to accommodate the demand, it was best he lives on the eastern side of Sodor in order to be as close to the Mainland, where his work often takes him to. That’s my theory.

    • @KTWhatsup
      @KTWhatsup 5 месяцев назад

      @@nicholetheotter1957 A Railway Theory!

  • @aquaatem1
    @aquaatem1 5 месяцев назад +2

    I think the BWBA team just had something against Gordon, whether it be poor characterization or writing.
    Looking at it from a lesson angle, this isn't a good episode covering how to handle friends moving away or handling a child who is moving away from friends.
    Gordon can be pompous and prideful, but he is kindhearted and helpful and we have seen it in the past.
    The Awdry's knew what they wanted to do with Gordon and in the books showed his progression from a young boastful express engine into a mature engine that could finally accept change. However, it seems like that progression got lost over time do to the show running for so long which caused Gordon to get down graded to a big blue grumpy engine.

  • @CakeKingYT
    @CakeKingYT 5 месяцев назад +1

    YEEEEES! My FAVOURITE series on this channel! I hate Forever & Ever merely for the fact that Nia just tells Gordon to suck up the changes, and that Henry was written out in the span of, like, what? *1 MINUTE?!* And the *MOST* baffling fact is that this was *SOMEHOW* written by non-other than Andrew Brenner!!!

    • @CakeKingYT
      @CakeKingYT 5 месяцев назад

      @@joshuaW5621 Yeah true

    • @nicholetheotter1957
      @nicholetheotter1957 5 месяцев назад

      More like Brenner being hit with the anvil that is called “Executive Meddling”.

    • @CakeKingYT
      @CakeKingYT 5 месяцев назад

      @@nicholetheotter1957 Yeah, he probably had it way different but then Mattel made him change it in the 11th hour

  • @jameskennedy075
    @jameskennedy075 5 месяцев назад +2

    Are you having trouble deciding which on one the WORST Thomas episode?
    Because there are loads of disgraceful ones?

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think it’s Too Loud Thomas or Wonky Whistle

  • @KimRodriguez-zr1su
    @KimRodriguez-zr1su 27 дней назад +1

    Gordon may be sassy, but he is the best “father” of the Steam Team. Obviously, he’s my favorite

  • @ChloeJean-j4m
    @ChloeJean-j4m 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is where people have to give the Miller era credit. Say what you want about most of the characters, but you can’t deny that they nailed Gordon’s pompous and kindhearted sides perfectly. Not like the Brenner era and THIS abomination of any episode.

    • @ChloeJean-j4m
      @ChloeJean-j4m 3 месяца назад

      @@joshuaW5621 Ok name one Brenner era episode that Gordon shows his kindhearted side that isn’t Confused Coaches

    • @ChloeJean-j4m
      @ChloeJean-j4m 3 месяца назад

      @@joshuaW5621 I’ll give you that, that’s pretty good. But that doesn’t really change the fact that Gordon was massively screwed over in the Brenner Era. He was treated as a punching bag by the show and never once got a happy ending.

  • @jamesthebluecat1263
    @jamesthebluecat1263 3 месяца назад +2

    3:59 now now. Hang on. He’s got a point. Everything changed because of all engines go.

  • @Thetrueblackcloverlover666
    @Thetrueblackcloverlover666 2 месяца назад +1

    The song at the beginning was fucking awesome❤❤

  • @sashathetankengine
    @sashathetankengine 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s odd that the era during CGI Thomas’ tenure that got Gordon the most correct was the Nitrogen Era…
    Here are a few examples:
    In Hero of the Rails, he was more than happy to help with Hiro by bringing him spare parts.
    When Thomas was a bit goofy and took the express that one time and couldn’t handle it, Gordon was happy to retake the train.
    In Snow Tracks, after somehow creating a giant snowball and causing Thomas to derail, Gordon feels sorry and helps Thomas by getting Rocky and helping him deliver the firewood.
    It’s only a few examples, and there are plenty that show Gordon to be rude, but he was treated relatively good.

    • @Avery_Productions
      @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nitrogen era Gordon is peak CGI Gordon

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Avery_ProductionsLets not forget in "Up, up and away!" Gordon had braincells to Thomas and Percy when they lose their first 2 balloons.

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад +2

      Even with bad writing involved. If only it continues in the Brenner era with good writing.

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 3 месяца назад +1

      @@joshuaW5621Bro I'm in Colorado and just left a "Day out with Thomas" event and some dumbass moments that happened there was that AEG songs were playing throughout the whole time I was riding Thomas, "Percy's new whistle" was playing in a basement model layout, and then "Misty Island rescue" started playing when I got to see Sir Topham Hatt.
      It wasn't all sacrilege throughout the whole time. We got better songs playing like the generic Engine Roll Call, "Sir Topham Hatt's CGI song", "Go Go Thomas" and "Thomas you're the leader" and in the basement layout "Escape" started playing and it was perfect because Oliver and Toad were on the layout.

    • @jeremiahsisaias8677
      @jeremiahsisaias8677 3 месяца назад +1

      @@joshuaW5621I am. Thought I refrence something to the Miller Era that happened during my trip.

  • @sammyclark4992
    @sammyclark4992 5 месяцев назад +1

    I honestly don't have a problem with Edward and Henry moving out, but what I do have a problem with, at least with Henry moving out, is that they never brought up the reason why. Like I know that Henry was never supposed to leave Tidmouth and it was said why Henry wanted to move to Vicarstown in the Still the Best of Friends short, but not actually the reason why he wanted to move there. Of course now it's assumed/implied because he takes freight trains to the Mainland but they could've addressed that in the episode. I don't really dislike the BWBA era, but the extra minute and a half that was cut off from the episodes during this time really affected a lot of episodes that needed that extra time for more dialogue. Even a little exchange from Gordon asking Henry why he's moving that goes something like this:
    Gordon: why are you leaving?
    Henry: to be closer to my work.
    Gordon: oh word? Okay I take that personally. Time to make a fool out of myself.
    Could've made the episode maybe not good but at least slightly better than how it turned out. Either way, this episode doesn't really make me mad. In fact a lot of the worst episodes you've covered I actually really like for some stupid reason. Apart from Panicky Percy, that episode sucks and so does this one. But I kind of just find enjoyment out of questioning the crap that goes on in episodes like that as opposed to dunking on them. Not that there's anything wrong with dunking on them, I'm just that one guy that doesn't get mad at even the worst episodes in my eyes.

  • @CTTE06
    @CTTE06 5 месяцев назад +1

    4:49 god this scene is so brainrotting i cant

  • @ReddyToAnimate
    @ReddyToAnimate Месяц назад

    Alternative Title For This Episode: Gordon Goes Insane.

  • @GLee-oe3op
    @GLee-oe3op 3 месяца назад

    5:08 gee, took the words right out of my mouth

  • @thechristmasguy45
    @thechristmasguy45 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nia Literally told Gordon to suck it up and accept that his friends left But. Gordon isn’t great himself in this episode ether.

  • @anthonycreationsofficial
    @anthonycreationsofficial 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yo fellas, let’s agreed my man has been cooking well in these days?!

  • @FormerlyJacksWorkshop2024
    @FormerlyJacksWorkshop2024 5 месяцев назад +4

    The Worst Thomas Episode is Definitely “Don’t go Back” I think that’s what the episode is called.

    • @Zombiehunter2_0
      @Zombiehunter2_0 5 месяцев назад +1

      If you're talking about the one where Thomas and Diesel race backwards and crash into Mavis, Arry, and Bert, then you're remembering correctly.

    • @ryanfuller912
      @ryanfuller912 5 месяцев назад +2

      Wonky Whistle is

    • @cadenthethomasexpert1379
      @cadenthethomasexpert1379 5 месяцев назад

      Both Are

    • @Jediah-s6p
      @Jediah-s6p 5 месяцев назад

      Don’t go back wasn’t that bad compared to wonky whistle and up up and away

    • @KTWhatsup
      @KTWhatsup 5 месяцев назад

      @@Zombiehunter2_0 So, isn't that technically a Thomas AND Diesel episode? What about the worst Thomas solo episode?

  • @spongytitles2704
    @spongytitles2704 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can we see the next Emily-centric ep next?
    (My guess would be Emily’s Adventure)

  • @tonybusch8771
    @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад

    Guess what really does matter is that, unless we take this whole Mattel company down and out somehow, they’re gonna keep treating Gordon like this until he eventually blows his stack on everything and everyone.

  • @BlueTankEngineAndFriends1984
    @BlueTankEngineAndFriends1984 5 месяцев назад +1

    At first I didn't like Gordon when I first watched Thomas the tank engine because I thought he was just an asshole who is always rude but over time I got use to him being like this

  • @GwrDuck8-8
    @GwrDuck8-8 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ok the scene where Gordon throws a tantrum was a bit funny but why Gordon just why one of my most favourite characters just why. Oh I know why Mattel thinks the franchise is for babies when it's not!.

    • @GwrDuck8-8
      @GwrDuck8-8 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@joshuaW5621 Actually... It was created for all ages as the creator made it so everyone could enjoy it then when Hit took over then Mattel brought the franchise they were good from 2013-2017 with movies and episodes until 2018 when it went back down that hill then one day a god f**king awful day in 2020 it... Yeah you know what happened. (What I meant all by this is Mattel didn't understand the franchise)

  • @Abandoned_Channel1
    @Abandoned_Channel1 5 месяцев назад

    this is peak. Also you have discord by chance?

    • @D10Studios235
      @D10Studios235  5 месяцев назад

      @@Abandoned_Channel1 yeah

    • @Abandoned_Channel1
      @Abandoned_Channel1 5 месяцев назад

      @@D10Studios235 mine is mine is _ajay_5 we can discuss about some worst episodes if you like to.

    • @Abandoned_Channel1
      @Abandoned_Channel1 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@D10Studios235whats ur user.

    • @Abandoned_Channel1
      @Abandoned_Channel1 5 месяцев назад

      ​@D10Studios235 My User Is _ajay_5 if you want we can talk about some worst episodes planned?

    • @Abandoned_Channel1
      @Abandoned_Channel1 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@D10Studios235User?

  • @iaskenti1656
    @iaskenti1656 5 месяцев назад +1

    I really do hate the last scene of the episode. Gordon was too stubborn and not actual elegant character in the RWS.
    However, considering what coming after Brenner's resistance leave, this episode can be the one of the best episodes from Brenner's heart.
    The captalism and business exploting from the RWS contents started obviously since 2018, but in the behind the scenes, this trend may have started before, maybe in 2014.
    Brenner shows his anger and his genuine respect to the RWS, he warned what Matel policy team was trying to do.

  • @gilbertmartinez57
    @gilbertmartinez57 5 месяцев назад

    You should also do Flatbeds of Fear and Saving Time!

  • @thusgordonplot4721
    @thusgordonplot4721 5 месяцев назад +1

    At least Rebecca helps Gordon got over his problem with this change

  • @wyattroland2187
    @wyattroland2187 Месяц назад

    It would’ve been funny if he fell in the ditch again and Thomas says well well well in the trouble and trucks saw that and we still remember the song

  • @prideoftheline2009
    @prideoftheline2009 5 месяцев назад

    We’re not questioning why Gordon has red coaches when you had to guess him?

  • @NitroIndigo
    @NitroIndigo 5 месяцев назад

    What's up with the audio in this episode? There's so much noise. Are all BWBA episodes like this?

  • @thusgordonplot4721
    @thusgordonplot4721 5 месяцев назад

    They don’t even make references to how James crashed into the shed

  • @Avery_Productions
    @Avery_Productions 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think the only 2 bad Gordon episodes are this episode and Gordon gets the giggles which I think is the least amount of bad episodes of any main cast member or at least tied with James.
    Gordon has some mid episodes such as in S5 or S6 but there not bad compared to these episodes

  • @EwanFanstudios
    @EwanFanstudios 5 месяцев назад +4

    I Love Gordon The Big Engine

    • @tonybusch8771
      @tonybusch8771 5 месяцев назад +1

      Me Too, but only when he acts like a kind and caring friend towards the other engines.