Milan-Sanremo 2024 | THEMOVE
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2024
- It’s been nearly a decade since we have seen a sprinter win Milan San Remo. Johan, Lance and JB break down the race and great team work by alpecin-deceuninck, in particular a team effort by Mathieu Van Der Poel. Also, more insight in to Pogacar, his goals for the year and scoop on changing his training.
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If you missed the SCOOPEs from Johan about Tadej Pogacar:
- Changed to a new coach called Javier Sola
- Current weight 65kg. Plans to reach 63kg for the Tour
- Current FTP: 431w. Which is 6.58wkg. Lance said is too early for such a peak (he would be 5.5wkg at the time of Milano-Sanremo, couldnt follow any wheels in the race on the climbs)
- Lans said that he had around 7wkg before each tour he won
- Huge focus on TT in the training right now for him
- The UAE team believes that he can reach Vingi if Pogi does certain numbers that they make as an objective.
- In particular, 7.5wkg for 15min, 7wkg for 20min and 6.65wkg for 30+min
He;s also certainly on epo3
@@johnbienaszii7729lance said new octane fuel :)
Thanks for the info, very interesting. I hope he can make the tour interesting but I don't see how he can coming off the giro
@@systemicchaos3921 It's 2024, Giro doesn't matter that much. Some riders are even better at their second GT of the season.
@@zikaperic2133 he said high,obviously they wont point out the uci difference from 1990- to 1991.they still all dope with their bio passports being set while they sleep in hyperbaric chambers in their favorite tax haven, Andorra .Bless these toxicopolymaniacs
It’s not a boxing match. It’s a bike race. It is great to see rivals congratulate each other we viewers wanna see that instead of hatred.
Nonsense.
I think that the current attitude of the top guys amongst each other is a good medicine against the current hate and nonsense being spread around the internet by their respective fans... I embrace it!
What Lance seems to miss is that Jasper, Bling and Pogi are all part of the Monaco Hub and they are trully great friends, spend many hours together training and its 2024
I think you just made Lance’s point…prior to this generation competition was personal
Hey Lance these riders put on a great show and its great that they are buddies and all like each other They all gave it all to win. Its like “Who cares we are all millionaires, we put on a great show, everyone is happy, our sponsors are happy, lets have a party together. “
Big riders being too nice to each other? They all rode flat out into the red zone doing everything they could individually, no gifts there. Its nice to see rival's being friends
I get Lance’s point, but having listened to this podcast for years now, it’s laborious listening to him rant about this after every major race. It’s the same tale, told in the exact same way. We get that many of the racers of his time, with him at the helm, were jerks. I’m glad to see this generation celebrating one another’s accomplishments.
Holy shit Johan lost weight! Love the show guys
Was he overweight before?. Weight loss 📉 💪 can be a blessing if the goal is to drop unwanted fat .
Yeah let's hope it was planned
Ya, it seems. I wouldn't want to do a group ride with him now!!
This was perhaps the best podcast yet
i think its like when UFC fighters were hugging during c19 they re just happy to be able to still compete with other , they respecting each others efforts to keep the sport going
and on competitors being friendly with each other, i think a new wave of awareness has permeated--in my opinion, correctly--the sports/athletic world about mental health. i think increasingly happiness and fulfillment has been allocated outside professional achievements for people in general. we've seen a lot of mega achievers reach the end of their sports (or any field, for that matter) careers and then find themselves empty. it often looks like an extremely unhealthy position to find yourself in. personal growth and relationships to others are more enduring and, in fact, quite necessary in life. AAAAANNND it's not like they're not competing any more furiously or losing feels any less heartbreaking or infuriating (michael matthews yesterday, for instance, if you see his post race interview). and since all these heroes inspire the rest of us mortals, i can't see how there is anything negative about the example and precedent they're setting.
That theme of friendship x hate rivals. We all understand Lance. We all know what racing was like in his day. But today the world is different. And there is really a fatal difference between the approach of Americans and Europeans. Pogačar is a very special person. People in America don't get it. With them, it is quite common to smile at people we don't know at all, to have small talks with them, to ask them how they are doing, when we are not interested at all. This is completely different with the Slavs. When you act nice to others, it shows that you really care about them. Pogačar is an extremely nice person, an amazing superstar of cycling. All of us fans are excited about his approach. Lance can't understand this at all. He'S from different world.
First time I see Lance and Johan throw jabs at each other, but I believe that they're good friends
Lance you know the old days are over, hatred is over in cycling. It's all LOVE but still a more and more faster than ever and more passion than ever.
Loving the scoops.
I think it's awesome that riders are friends and no, they don't feel any remorse for dropping some one, ask Pogi with 5 minutes gap. It's amazing that no matter the racing they behave like young adults that have received affection in their lives and are not scare to show it too.
Some good comments. Very fitting.
Then some comments from people that hate-watch WEDU. LOL, why watch a podcast you dont like?
Lance is Lance. He has experience and opinions. He has JB² and often the gentleman known as George Hincape. No surprises, just an exceptional podcast.
Great show.
It's the most excellent Cycling podcast out there.
I greatly respect JB and Lance, true ‘connaisseurs’ of the cycling world.
Loveee listening to Johan !!!!!!
Mohoric was interviewed pre-race by Eurosport and was asked if he was using any new innovative tech this year and he replied that they just tweaked his normal setup to optimize it for this race and then said something about getting the weight down as low as possible, which suggests to me he was more concerned with the expected UAE inferno going up Cipressa & Poggio than with gaining an edge on the Poggio descent. It almost feels that he is in part acknowledging that the cat is out of the bag when it comes to him launching on the descent or over the top of the Poggio, I.e., if he tries it again there’s no chance he’s not getting marked straight away. Witness MVDP do exactly that when Mohoric did go near the bottom.
I like what Lance said there about how hard classics racing is.
Those UAE and especially POGi SCOOPEs are wild… now we know why Jonas V. had the same numbers at Gran Camino(February) that he showed last year at Dauphiné (June)..it’s an arms race 😮
Great Poggi scoops Johan!
Lance, Love your theme song. The Tour de France immediately comes to mind. thanks.
juicy scoops from Johan!!
Great show - Lance is truly engaged and feisty. Johan brings in a great scoop. JB is great doing what he does - getting more content out of both Lance/Johan.
Mads Pedersen realistically will be pondering, if he will ever win this race. There will always be one rider edging him out, it seems. The same can be said of Matthews.
Tadej must be wondering the same - in the 3 successive years he has raced MSR he has come 5th, 4th, 3rd
Sagan. Gotta be strong but you need luck to with MSR
As must Michael Mathews be thinking what if. Two 2nds, one third, one fourth - six top 7 finishes.
Enjoyed the race👍
as a mvdp fanboy im glad he won last year but bit disappointed he didnt counter Pogi immediately at the Pogio and blew away
I am with you Lance. We can be friends, but I sure would not be congratulating 2 seconds after a lost a sprint. And again competition is what makes us train harder. Even after 30years of riding, I still always want to win.
I was at the start line in Pavia on Saturday morning for the Milan- San Remo race and can say Pavia is a beautiful and more intimate place for this race to start. The reason given in the press was due to lack of police resources available in Milan city, which is why it was moved to a Abbiategrasso least year for the same reason. These high profile monument races place a huge demand on Municipality resources but at the same time gives us the opportunity to see other beautiful places like Pavia.
Allaphilipe got a flat tyre in the final.
❤❤
Johan looks great! He’s always been handsome and Lance is a badass and hilarious, he has a warrior spirit, I guess people don’t get it! love JB too can’t wait for more commentary! ❤
Good show! A small feedback though- it would be good to see you all in a split screen as apposed to the person talking only.
JB looking’ leaner. Lost a few Kgs looks like. Getting them kms in and taking care of himself. Nice work.
I would like to see Lance and George do the Cape Epic🤔😁
Oh my god, Lance's nerd commentators comment had me rolling on the floor.
When someone says 'I don't care' ....they care....
Uh, no they don't.
That´s why i would recommend Lance, to take a good look inside, as all the answers is there for him. Cheers from Denmark.
7X!! Never ever forget!
Banger vid! I don't get the celebration priority. It should be with your team first. You are there because of your team. After that, do whatever.
So how fast will i be with agi.
Lance, you're a living legend and one of the greatest of all time, but maybe having more friends in the peloton would have been beneficial.
If you live by the sword, you eventually die by it too.
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If he didnt manage solve for 50 years... I think he cannot help himself... although I find him often charismatic at times.
@@zikaperic2133 He's definitely an interesting person. There's a lot to learn from his life and career. A lot of it is bad, but a lot of it is good too.
He's certainly one of the greatest cheats of all time!
If Pogacar had not gone full out on the decent and burn't his matches he was very close to the win.
After 300k sprinting is a great leveller.
Next year try saving it for the end
Shout out to Trentin and his Tudor team!
The next sprinter was there in the final, KOOY from Visma Lease a bike
Moser in 1984 had spent two months preparing for the hour record in Mexico with Dottor Ferrari... he was in good shape... the Alpecin team's tactics were centered on Philipsen from the first Km of the race... the second time Pogaçar tried to escape on Poggio, the only one who managed to follow him was MVDP... when Pogaçar sprinted the second time the pace was relatively slow... MVDP could have made the same MOVE as him but he didn't... they arrived at the top of the hill with the same advantage over the group that MVDP had last year... if MVDP cooperated they could reach the finish line (maybe with Pidcock)... the final sprint would have been a puzzle....
Ganna got a flat on the descent from the Poggio, when Pedersen overtook him in a corner he lost his line and hit a pothole.
Lance is still running the peloton. Don’t get it twisted.
I'm from Brazil, and I have to confess that although cycling is a European sport, the best cycling channels are from North America: Christian Horner channel and the move podcast
Pogi just sprinted for 2nd earlier at Catalunya (YES, March 18th)
I don't f*cking care if he's doping or not, holy fuck what a guy. 6.58 in March, he's probably on his 1st planned peak
Johan and Lance are looking fit. What's up with JB?
not enough ketones 😂
What are your predictions for GC on the Giro and the Tour now that you have seen the performance of the greats , JV, TP, RE, and Roglic ?
Nice Hugo Boss Johan
Wow! Julian Allaphillipe is coming back! From an alcoholic cyclist to a recovering alcoholic cyclist! I'm looking forward to some future results from him.
First of all using hate as fuel has always been more prevalent in US sports than in European sports.
Also Pogacar and Matthews are neighbours - and each others closest friends outside of cycling (they travel together to all races they both attend) - and Philipsen is a very close friend to both of them.
It would be odd to need to self-suggest "hate" towards your closest friends, in order to beat them in competition.
Johan looking thin and fit !!
Did Lance just say 5.5W/kg without juice and 7W/kg with the juice...?😮
No. He said 5.5 at Milan/SR and 7 at the Tour. Both with octane
Seems like every top team has a TdF-roster-ready since February. Tadej lost time descending and he should have gone harder, alot earlier on the climb. Mcnulty would have helped more today than Del Toro. The pace wasn´t hard enough to drop sprinters... which is crazy!!
Would Bling swap some hugs for a bit of Lance today?
Pogacar was very frustrated after the race on Italian national TV, he said that while he is always the strongest he can't win this race and might not come back next year.
Lance, capo de capos 🎉
I understand the finish congrats to one another brcause they all win so many races. Pogacar won a major race two weeks ago his carreer is done he is happy. Jasper wins tdf stages for breakfast but maybe the only one who could be a bit bitter is Michael Mathews he struggles much more to win. But even so none of those guys is lackinh wins.
V.d Poel had Pogagar complete under control, he was going for Phillipsen, otherwise he had won it for himself
MVdP is the MVP!
Looking slim
He didn't use the dropper post because it wasn't compatible with the bike he used.
Pogi is the peloton´s bumbuddy....he looks like a sweet girl....
And who was Mosers dr....
Johan was right to name Pedersen as favorite, it speaks of his form he was first/second after Pogi and van der poel at the top and had the shot at sprinting and winning … but unfortunately 😮
Ricco’ says the same.
He doesn’t get it too, probably times have changed.
These "old riders" could have learned a lesson from their mistakes, I'm not talking about EPO but how they were acting as bullies in the peloton. No one misses them.
Moser of note had a power meter for his hour record. conconi was thereI believe but ferrari was the guy, The itailian govt spent a mil plus on that record on the form of medicine
Omg Lance seems like an unpleasant person to be around. Looks like he is about to explode, every second. Damn´there is something explosive under that skin.....
If Bling just straightened out his sprint and not move back towards the middle Jasper was pinned in a fair/safe way and Bling would have won….FACT
lance, what does "talking out of class" mean?? ESL here!... i feel like i missed a joke... especially since johan said he didn't care....
Majoric didn’t have the motorcycle lead out this year. 😂 Piddock’s decent was amazing. On technical descents, are lighter riders at an advantage through sharp turns?
wtf bro
he was faster than motorcycle lol
@@user-vu4hb6fo8f got a great draft!
Lance you are older from a different era that's why you don't get it. I raced in the USCF in the early 1970's and it was pure 😡! 😄👍🏻💯
I think that Van der Poel lost the race when he wasn't glued to Pogacar's wheel on the Poggio because he had to close a massive gap, which he did very quickly and had he put in that effort while on Pogacar's wheel I think he'd gone right over the top just like he did last year. He was just out of position at the wrong moment. Also things change; people change. Who cares what the social politics of the peleton of years gone by. It was what it was and now it is what it is.
What I think Lance is trying to convey when he states he couldn't keep the wheel of the other leaders on the climbs approaching the finish line at Milan-San Remo is that he was not sufficiently transfused at that point in the season and it would be a few more months under his extra-curricular "regimen"until his EPO levels reached Tour volume.
I personally think VDP dont want to go down from Poggio , with Poggy. He on purpose creating little gap, to wait for the 2nd group. Maybe he didnt confidence battle sprint with Poggy. Better give it to Jasper.
LOOOL
Mathews is the most underrated rider in the peloton, he's ALWAYS there.
johan... move the mic ot the mouth, an expensive mic a meter away is just as bas as no expensive mic. you sound like you're in a basement
and lance .. the reason you don't get why those guys are hugging, is the reason you got so much more shit out of all the guys of your era.... shit attitude. love you man, but your anti social ways is what really git yo I trouble, and yove said it yourself.
these young guys are all stronger and better and yet they can be this confident about their competition, they are absolute enemies in the race and know how to turnit off when its over.
Inigo is not the trainer but is still the director. so not a compleet change or is it?
Tadej Pogacar looks like a stick figure! From where is he going to lose 4.9 pounds!?!
BUT.....he isn't as skinny as Jonas V! Maybe that's why.
Crazy he can still sprint with the absolute best.
At what point does a rider lose strength, endurance and power due to muscle wasting?
I smell osteoporosis in someone's future....... Love the guy though!
Lance: I think you were so appealing to cycling fans because you have/had a physique of some kind!
LOVE the show......
Great analysis Lance. Pogacar was great but with 2 horrible teammates : Hirschi and Ulissi
Dump the lead in previews!
When are we going to talk about the elephant in the room? Am I the only one who doesn’t think all of the fastest times ever recorded now are because of training methodology and aerodynamic bikes? Bread and water for the win 🥇
Btw Lance, we watch the show in large part for Johan's scoops
I miss George
Name one occassion where two riders not of the same team refused to drop oneanother because they are friends? Did Mathieu drop Tadej in Glasgow? Did Tadej drop Mathieu in De Ronde van Vlaanderen? Did Mathieu bridge the gap between him and Tadej this MS? Yes. What are you harping on about. Nonsense.
Spilling information like this about Pog is really dirty.
first
100% with Lance, the guy has just beaten you and stole your dream, am I fuck hugging him
It was a poor finish to take a Sprinter to the line.
I just have to ask, as it's never made sense to me, but what is a grown ass man thinking when he puts on a baseball cap backwards? Does anyone actually look better with one? Is there some functional aspect to it?
I’m surprised Lance even does have friends.
those that can tolerate those offensive comments 😂
He's punk...UFC who hug & shake hands even after controversial judge decision, would beat his puny ass & big mouth
You rarely come away with friends, when you’re a dick with ears.
spanish please
Feels a bit unfair to make Pogacars numbers and training goals public like this. Can't you get hold of Vingegaards, Evenepoels and Roglic's too?
PS I do not at all think the friendliness between the current riders affect their performance at all. Hatred can certainly be a powerful motivator, but there are other motivations (like wanting to become the best ever for example) that are not depending on personal feelings towards other people.
Their numbers for an hour are with 10 watts of each other. The difference is how they cope with myriad variables. Who can cope with the highest normalised power, in the warmest and highest conditions for the longest? No one is doing 7 watts per kilo at 2000m in week three. But they might be able to hold 6 watts per kilo for 40 minutes on the last climb of stage 19 after riding at 5.5 watts per kilo for the previous three climbs. I think the biggest problem for Pogacar is heat rather than his rivals finding out his FTP.
@@christianmatheron6444true, but to be honest, Pogi didn’t start to have problems with either the heat or consistency until Jonas showed up.
@@christianmatheron6444 Considering how meticulous Visma have analysed Pogacar's every meter on a bike, I'm sure they know all details about his numbers in various conditions better than himself. Certainly better than UAE ;) I do still think it's unfair (maybe not the best word) to make his numbers public in this way since he obviously does not want that. Most of the top riders don't want that. It's a bit like making medical records public. I don't like when leaked personal information obtained by shady means are made public. Especially not for only one targetted individual.
Yes, I'd agree with that.@@Snarkum
Yes Lance you were a dick, but times have changed and tire widths as well. : )
Excellent commentary! ❤ too much soy in the milk with all the hugging lol missing testosterone and more manly things 🤣🤣🤣
Soryy but its a bike race
I agree, very strange when Pogi Jasper and Matthew’s are all hugging and kissing each other. 💯 Soy boys
Soy boys that would kick your a**
Sick and tired about people whinning every Lance says something