@@MRLONG758 what .5??? Let’s be honest here who she is as a person is what takes her past that & why she’s married. If she had a b!+chy personality she’s not getting wifed
Ppl forget Simone is an athlete .. the reason she was smiling hard over her story cuz in story he may be the prize .. but she’s the winner , she seen someone she wanted & married him . Adding on another accomplishment that she went for .. but these women too jaded to understand that
No one is talking about “the prize”. That’s something way different than being the catch. She went after him and caught him. That’s why he literally is the catch. Adding words is what turned this into something viral
Killed it by showing how basic he is and why every woman that ever loved him, left him. Sure he's feeling fulfilled talking shit on a podcast for dollars though so all good 😄.
💯 I was just about say that. Simone biles is married and is happy and Mel is damn near 50 and sill single and childless thinking high value men are still checking for her.
@@tupactargaryen they checkin for her fasho, but only for the late night creep.. she talk about checking boxes but she checks all the boxes for a side piece
Mel: "If Simone isnt bothered by what he said, why should we be bothered?" Mel 3 minutes later: "I dont like how he said he is the catch" and somehow 3:10-3:31 is somehow Misogyinistic 😂
Mel isnt that smart if you watch most of what she says. She also think she was the ish and she is hot and Mel is more hype than anything during her days which wasnt even that great
She can say how she doesn't agree with something or what she think it is doesn’t mean you have to say bs like I see why she single u have no clue if that’s why and who give a fk if she single it doesn’t change your life why is that even being said
Turns out Mel was right because he did know who Simone was the entire time, yet he went around town acting like he's never heard of her or gymnastics. Dude is not the catch and is trying to convince himself he is.
Mel is wrong here. She did the pursuing so he is the catch. It’s okay. Where Mel messed up, she thinks because Simone Biles is a US gold medalist somehow that makes her worth pursuing in a relationship. Unfortunately, the guys seem far less shallow than Mel in this discussion because the reason they are together has nothing to do with what they do as a profession. They are together because of who they are as people.
Mel literally is “Twitter women” in an actual human form. It’s pretty sad. She got visibly upset because Simone Biles husband is “the catch”. It’s unreal to witness. Joe even called her out on her weird anger. Like why on earth you mad about someone else relationship? 😂 she’s done. Get her off the show man
People really bothered about how other people feel about themselves. Him feeling he's a catch doesn't diminish her or how she feels about herself or vice versa. Both are young good looking black professional athletes. both of them have wealth, both are a catch objectively.
Mel has issues that she needs to rectify like many of our sisters. This brother told a story in front of his wife to which she smiled and blushed and didn’t challenge and many women are upset because he said he was the catch. She pursued him initially. That doesn’t mean he didn’t court her and do all of the things men do for women. Ego is crazy
Man or woman, anyone can be a catch; the problem with Jonathan Owens’ response is that he oversold his point by saying, “I think men are ALWAYS the catch.” HIS EGO is crazy.
@@SapphicSteph That, and he tried to peddle that he didn't KNOW who SHE was! REALLY?!?! What? Does he live under a rock deep in a cave on the moon? Had he been in a coma for the last 5-7 years? Had he been for whitewashed for however many years that this successful, outstanding Black female Olympic athlete just NEVER beeped on his radar? Even bigots who absolutely HATE Black people are aware of Simone Biles and her accomplishments. How dis ninja NEVER heard of Simone Biles?!? This was a bridge too far for me. Ugleeahhboi
Exactly! It’s telling that that is her barometer. You don’t look for a relationship by how many awards someone has won. Shit tbh she probably thought he was just attractive and he’s doing well enough to be successful so why not even if he’s not a superstar. Can live a low key lifestyle.
@@downbad2874but he didnt downplay her. He spoke highly if her in the whole interview. Its just god forbid a man has confidence in himself and says it out loud. If Simone was on the view and bragged on how much he perused her people (women mostly)wouldn’t crucified her, it would just be”yas queen”
a catch and the catch are not the same thing. ideally everyone in relationships should be A catch but to designate yourself as THE catch is a bold thing to say publicly, combined with some of the other details in the clip gives off an impression that he was pressed to let ppl know she chased him. it's an interesting choice for sure.
IMO, the real reason why woman are so upset about Owen's comments about being the catch. The real problems are that Owens doesn't behave like a neutered pup and that Simone was ACTIVE in her pursuit of love and happiness. On the first point, women constantly praise men that lower themselves in the praise of their woman. They praise Serena's husband for behaving more like an accessory than a partner. They were expecting him to behave like that but he's build different. They want him to pretend like he's not good enough for her. On the second point, they dislike that Simone was active in perusing the man that she wanted. Most women prefer to sit back and hope that they would choose the right man amidst all the other guys trying to put it in their butt. They have too much ego, pride, and fear to after what they really want. Simone knew what she wanted and wasn't deterred because he took a little bit of time to respond.
If you think about it Simone biles could be attracted to husband because he wasn’t a guy that praised her for her accomplishments and actually viewed her as a person and as a woman that he would love to marry. Maybe she’s attracted to a guy that treated her normally and not like a goal medal
When Gabby was popping the year they communicated Simone was nowhere to be found. I don't even remember her being on the team. When he locked in on football he wasn't aware of her. It could possibly be true. Simone wasn't always getting play in the media before COVID.
I mean that’s possible, but Simone has been poppin since like 2016. He probably was just a sophomore is college, and I doubt he’s so focused on football and training during the summer Olympics to know Gabby, but not Simone
@@mylessmith8059this ain’t 1996 bruh. People ain’t checking for the Olympics like that anymore. Let’s not act like there’s a world where someone may not know who she is.
@@kevinstewart8054 that would make sense if he also didn't know who Gabby Douglas was. There's no way he knows who Gabby is, who is a lesser known, lesser accomplished, Olympic gymnast, and not Simone Biles
It’s funny cuz Mel’s only atteibute to fame is physical attractions hence why she’s been with musicians and athletes but she can’t see it from the roles switched
How many podcast have to have this conversation before women understand that their professional accolades don’t make them more attractive to men. It’s a small factor in determining how you see her. Men and women have different attraction triggers. It is what it is. Joe cracked her at the end with that perfect scenario.😂🤷🏾♂️ P.S.: Simone Biles is MID, just to be polite.
He clearly cared about her professional accolades if he checked her followers first… he def. decided to secure the bag as he clearly has strived to do his entire life. And there’s no need to be polite because Simone is def. not below average in the looks department she is on the nose average/mid looking, her accolades and personality ranked her above the rest when he compromised on who and when he thought he wanted to settle down.
PS. Beautiful biles ❤❤❤ there's nothing mid about her but her height. Beauty goes far beyond a physical appearance So sorry you can't see that. I could say more but I m trying to be polite.
Being an Olympic gold medalist doesnt translate to being a great person to be with in a relationship. So I'm not sure why some women are using that as "why she's the catch". She can just as easily flip her way into gold medal, leave the arena and key her bf car and put sugar in his gas tank. im just sayin
@@downbad2874this is facts, i’d also say that women would describe that they want what you described. Although it doesn’t translate to a good man. Capable to provide yes, not necessarily a good man.
None of that gymnastics shit means anything to your relationship. At the end of the day she was in search of safety and security, amd she found it in him. He's the catch. Period.
Mel is totally contradicting herself. She says let’s not look at the numbers but what she’s doing is she’s looking at Simone Biles accolades saying that’s why she’s the catch but then again she won’t recognize The Measure Ables, the man possesses as well. That gentleman is tall, handsome and successful. He can find another woman anywhere from Starbucks to a professional athlete Simone Biles cannot go out and find another man like that. This is the reason why he is the catch.
No she can’t those men are not readily available and they have numerous options. You calling a NFL player an average athlete? I would love to see you go train for one week how they train. I also can tell you don’t watch sports because Russel Wilson is average which is why he is about to get cut. Modern women have over inflated egos.
@@martinwoodson2115 I don’t watch football but I do know they’re paid based on performance and he’s no where near making what a star NFL player makes. You don’t know who she could or could not get lol modern men are delusional.
That’s not the reason he’s the catch. The reason is simple, she was the hunter and caught him, therefor he’s the “catch”… I HATE how this shit has been blown out of proportions
If Lebron did an interview and said he was the catch in his marriage a lot of women would still have a problem with it. It’s really not about the accolades (it just sounds good) a lot of women just only see women as the catch
Look how quick Mel was to try to tare this man down without knowing who he was talking about he’s not a millionaire lady this man made over 7 million in the NFL so far Also to me the catch can be the man or the women depending on who’s pursuing who
I said on twitter when this first started, “ It doesn’t matter what he did for a living. He’s a confident successful black man who knows his worth. A millionaire decorated accomplished bw knew she had to submit to get and keep the man she wanted and it drives bw crazy.” Everything Mel said makes her successful doesn’t matter to men and those are the things the modern bw bring to relationships and wonder why they fail. Mel didn’t even know who he was and was trying to diss him.
The irony in all this is if a woman don’t view you as a catch she ain’t gonna want you whether you pursue or not. No chick is hoping a guy she thinks is “alright” tries to pursue her.
@@downbad2874 it’s the how and why. The intention is what matters. She went out of her way to say he isn’t a millionaire to try to discredit him and Ish’s point
I wasn’t really an argument.. I get what u mean. Fuck it they’re married but I think it’s more of a matter of how when men identify their value it’s viewed differently. Like Ish stated he is a catch by woman’s standards. Especially black woman. Got money, in shape, heterosexual, black, and NO KIDS. Shiiittt more power to Simone. She seen something she wanted and went for it, as she should. Wish more women in this day and age did what she did.
let's cut the BS bro. Simone biles isn't all that cute. there are more women who want Johnathan than there are men who want Simone. he is more desirable because men don't care about Simone's finances and accolades the way women do and therefore he is the catch. call it what it is.
Bingo and that's the crux of the issue, as accomplished as Simone is she is not considered attractive, hell Cristiano Ronaldo's girl worked in a Gucci store when he met her but she's pretty.
I think there is a semantic problem here. There are two different versions of “the catch.” One is more literal in the aspect of being caught. And one is more theoretical in the aspect of perceived value. This is a clear showing of the difference between how men’s and women’s language works. The men are arguing from the literal sense and the woman is arguing from the theoretical interpretation. Based on the way homeboy was talking in the interview, I’m not sure which way he meant it. At first it seemed like the literal sense, but towards the end it seems like he was going the theoretical route by saying “men are always the catch.” I think there is no issue with the recount of his story if it was true. It’s perfectly fine for a woman to let a man know she is interested in him, so long as he takes that queue and begins the pursuit of her. She showed a heavy initial interest… had he not followed up by taking charge of the pursuit, they probably wouldn’t be married. Where he messed up was the comment he made at the end about men always being the catch. In that moment, he was talking to the guys casually and was not thinking about how he was representing his wife. The appropriate thing would have been to tell the story as it was, but show appreciation for Simone once asked “oh so you’re the catch.” That would have been the mature masculine thing to do. He could’ve even joked and said “well, she caught me but I’m the one who ended up blessed.” Like, idk… get creative lol
They both can be considered a catch, depending on your definition of what a catch is. However, let's be completely honest. The perspective being shared seemed embellished (to say the least). It's hard to believe that he didn't know who Simone Biles was. It's not a reach to even say/think the only reason he was interviewed was because he is her husband.
She talking about respect trying to make it like that man disrespected his wife then she’s saying multi millionaire like he’s broke this is just disgusting behavior
All he did was admit she was more into him than he was into her initially then he fell in love and married her. He’s young so he’s dumb enough to think we believe, he didn’t know who the most decorated gymnasts/athlete is 😂.
The point is that accolades don’t matter to men who have it all already in the dating marketplace. Her being a decorated gymnast does not increase her dating options
I agree that she made him the catch, and I also think that Melissa is correct. He should have covered his wife. We REALLY didn't need to know all of that!!
Facts that was my only issue with buddy gossiping on how she was chasing him. Made simone seem thirsty n desperate but he's the catch in their situation
Only women who are unhappy or single feel like Mel. My husband is a fucking catch and he knows it. But that doesn’t take away from me being a catch as well and knowing it. Both can exist 🥴
For starters there's a difference between being a catch and being THE catch. They both compliment each other. So if he bagged a fly gymnast then she is the catch. But I'm a believer of feeling mutual feelings for each other. He made it seem like he was hardly interested in her. So some of this is not as simple as he checks these boxes. Simone shot her shot and it hit far as she's concerned she's fine with her decision. All we can do is wish this black couple a lifetime of happiness. I just want black couples to win and be healthy. Ish had a point about the boxes checked.
So the issue is that he only called himself a catch and didnt say “well i think we were a catch for each other”. I definitely think no one would have made all thisnoise if simone talked about how much he persued her because we’ve been conditioned that men are supposed to pursue women as apart of social construct
If men are providing lifestyle and security how are we not the catch. Women end up bitter and alone when men choose not to stay with them. All of a womans accolades don’t matter to men if her company is unenjoyable.
FINALLY JOE JUST SAID WHAT ALL OF US OTHERS ARE SCARED TO SAY 😂😂😂
Exactly!!! You remove everything & you put her in the club she’s mid at best
@@molifts4389I wouldn't say mid but slightly above mid
@@MRLONG758 what .5??? Let’s be honest here who she is as a person is what takes her past that & why she’s married. If she had a b!+chy personality she’s not getting wifed
Yeaaaa you she ain’t cute when people say shit like adorable
relationship coach tony gaskins said a similar thing two wks ago.
Ppl forget Simone is an athlete .. the reason she was smiling hard over her story cuz in story he may be the prize .. but she’s the winner , she seen someone she wanted & married him . Adding on another accomplishment that she went for .. but these women too jaded to understand that
Well said!
No one is talking about “the prize”. That’s something way different than being the catch. She went after him and caught him. That’s why he literally is the catch. Adding words is what turned this into something viral
Joe killed it at the end 😂Mel was trying her best to stick to the girl code 😂
Killed it by showing how basic he is and why every woman that ever loved him, left him. Sure he's feeling fulfilled talking shit on a podcast for dollars though so all good 😄.
It’s easy to see why Mel is single 😂 sorry not sorry
Being single is freedom.
@@eccentricaste3232so what’s being single at damn near 50?
Facts
💯 I was just about say that. Simone biles is married and is happy and Mel is damn near 50 and sill single and childless thinking high value men are still checking for her.
@@tupactargaryen they checkin for her fasho, but only for the late night creep.. she talk about checking boxes but she checks all the boxes for a side piece
That phone catch was clean tho, that coulda ended horribly 😭😭
To clean! 11:30
put him on first base
Mel: "If Simone isnt bothered by what he said, why should we be bothered?"
Mel 3 minutes later: "I dont like how he said he is the catch"
and somehow 3:10-3:31 is somehow Misogyinistic 😂
I mean, $2000 and a bathroom and she could be yours 😂
Mel isnt that smart if you watch most of what she says. She also think she was the ish and she is hot and Mel is more hype than anything during her days which wasnt even that great
SOMEHOW bro
She can say how she doesn't agree with something or what she think it is doesn’t mean you have to say bs like I see why she single u have no clue if that’s why and who give a fk if she single it doesn’t change your life why is that even being said
Turns out Mel was right because he did know who Simone was the entire time, yet he went around town acting like he's never heard of her or gymnastics. Dude is not the catch and is trying to convince himself he is.
Mel is wrong here. She did the pursuing so he is the catch.
It’s okay.
Where Mel messed up, she thinks because Simone Biles is a US gold medalist somehow that makes her worth pursuing in a relationship.
Unfortunately, the guys seem far less shallow than Mel in this discussion because the reason they are together has nothing to do with what they do as a profession. They are together because of who they are as people.
That’s not that works 😂
Joe's closing argument made the whole point. Mel can't admit the truth
Mel literally is “Twitter women” in an actual human form. It’s pretty sad. She got visibly upset because Simone Biles husband is “the catch”. It’s unreal to witness. Joe even called her out on her weird anger. Like why on earth you mad about someone else relationship? 😂 she’s done. Get her off the show man
And somehow managed to label the guys misogynistic 😂
Homegirl got the stink face heavy lol
People really bothered about how other people feel about themselves. Him feeling he's a catch doesn't diminish her or how she feels about herself or vice versa.
Both are young good looking black professional athletes. both of them have wealth, both are a catch objectively.
Mel has issues that she needs to rectify like many of our sisters. This brother told a story in front of his wife to which she smiled and blushed and didn’t challenge and many women are upset because he said he was the catch. She pursued him initially. That doesn’t mean he didn’t court her and do all of the things men do for women. Ego is crazy
Man or woman, anyone can be a catch; the problem with Jonathan Owens’ response is that he oversold his point by saying, “I think men are ALWAYS the catch.” HIS EGO is crazy.
@@SapphicSteph That, and he tried to peddle that he didn't KNOW who SHE was! REALLY?!?! What? Does he live under a rock deep in a cave on the moon? Had he been in a coma for the last 5-7 years? Had he been for whitewashed for however many years that this successful, outstanding Black female Olympic athlete just NEVER beeped on his radar? Even bigots who absolutely HATE Black people are aware of Simone Biles and her accomplishments. How dis ninja NEVER heard of Simone Biles?!? This was a bridge too far for me. Ugleeahhboi
I find a problem with Mel using her accolades as proof of her being the catch. If they’re okay with each other they’re both the catch.
Exactly! It’s telling that that is her barometer. You don’t look for a relationship by how many awards someone has won. Shit tbh she probably thought he was just attractive and he’s doing well enough to be successful so why not even if he’s not a superstar. Can live a low key lifestyle.
I absolutely love this clip. Joe had it in the end 👌😝😁
Americans view everything from a money and celebrity perspective, it's really sad. No wonder there's a lot of broken families out there
Fr
True-And it generally leads to misappropriated respect.
Why is it a bad thing to say the man is the catch? Men aren’t even equally viewed, for a man to be a catch in 2024 it’s viewed as a negative…?
It’s not negative is just don’t downplay each other to big up your ego
@@downbad2874 did he downplay her though?
@@downbad2874but he didnt downplay her. He spoke highly if her in the whole interview. Its just god forbid a man has confidence in himself and says it out loud. If Simone was on the view and bragged on how much he perused her people (women mostly)wouldn’t crucified her, it would just be”yas queen”
a catch and the catch are not the same thing. ideally everyone in relationships should be A catch but to designate yourself as THE catch is a bold thing to say publicly, combined with some of the other details in the clip gives off an impression that he was pressed to let ppl know she chased him. it's an interesting choice for sure.
@@Lil08103 how does he look pressed? Out of curiosity
IMO, the real reason why woman are so upset about Owen's comments about being the catch. The real problems are that Owens doesn't behave like a neutered pup and that Simone was ACTIVE in her pursuit of love and happiness. On the first point, women constantly praise men that lower themselves in the praise of their woman. They praise Serena's husband for behaving more like an accessory than a partner. They were expecting him to behave like that but he's build different. They want him to pretend like he's not good enough for her.
On the second point, they dislike that Simone was active in perusing the man that she wanted. Most women prefer to sit back and hope that they would choose the right man amidst all the other guys trying to put it in their butt. They have too much ego, pride, and fear to after what they really want. Simone knew what she wanted and wasn't deterred because he took a little bit of time to respond.
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Great breakdown from someone keeping it real👌🏾
Mel is knocking on FIFTY. She’s a winter queen😂😂
Winter is Coming
@@Checkmate9movesShiiieeeettttt winter is here
Facts
She looks good for 50….And!!!!!!
@@maskgirlz9248 With make up and wigs she does. Take that off and see what happens
He was the catch. She wanted him and she got him. Period.
If you think about it Simone biles could be attracted to husband because he wasn’t a guy that praised her for her accomplishments and actually viewed her as a person and as a woman that he would love to marry. Maybe she’s attracted to a guy that treated her normally and not like a goal medal
that's what I think... she liked that he didn't "Know" who she was
We can be the catch sometimes ladies it’s okay 😂💯
Mel thinks Simones career makes her the catch your job and being a catch are two different things
How many ugly rich men think they're the catch, though? lol Your job actually can in fact make you the catch.
Only thing that bothered me is him lying about not knowing who she was. How you know Gabby Douglas but not Simone Biles
When Gabby was popping the year they communicated Simone was nowhere to be found. I don't even remember her being on the team. When he locked in on football he wasn't aware of her. It could possibly be true. Simone wasn't always getting play in the media before COVID.
I mean that’s possible, but Simone has been poppin since like 2016. He probably was just a sophomore is college, and I doubt he’s so focused on football and training during the summer Olympics to know Gabby, but not Simone
@@mylessmith8059this ain’t 1996 bruh. People ain’t checking for the Olympics like that anymore. Let’s not act like there’s a world where someone may not know who she is.
@@kevinstewart8054 that would make sense if he also didn't know who Gabby Douglas was. There's no way he knows who Gabby is, who is a lesser known, lesser accomplished, Olympic gymnast, and not Simone Biles
Uh Gabby is hotter
It’s funny cuz Mel’s only atteibute to fame is physical attractions hence why she’s been with musicians and athletes but she can’t see it from the roles switched
She can, she's just being disingenuous
She Called them misogynistic cuz she has something against men.. cant make this up 😂
In this particular situation, he is the catch because she chased after him. Outward looking in, she’s the catch because of who she is.
Agreed. She chased him then caught him. Therefore, in their relationship he’s the catch.
"Outward looking in, she’s the catch because of who she is."
Why? He is a multi-millionaire NFL player. People care about gymnastics every 4 years.
@@oboy9090 shes an Olympic gold medalist. And made history. I don’t know that man at ALL! So yeah, it’s because of who she is, not him.
She might not be a catch in the relationship sense
@@mrmanoriginaltakes that’s what I mean.
How many podcast have to have this conversation before women understand that their professional accolades don’t make them more attractive to men. It’s a small factor in determining how you see her. Men and women have different attraction triggers. It is what it is. Joe cracked her at the end with that perfect scenario.😂🤷🏾♂️
P.S.: Simone Biles is MID, just to be polite.
Fucckkkkkk oh my goodness thank you
He clearly cared about her professional accolades if he checked her followers first… he def. decided to secure the bag as he clearly has strived to do his entire life. And there’s no need to be polite because Simone is def. not below average in the looks department she is on the nose average/mid looking, her accolades and personality ranked her above the rest when he compromised on who and when he thought he wanted to settle down.
PS. Beautiful biles ❤❤❤ there's nothing mid about her but her height. Beauty goes far beyond a physical appearance So sorry you can't see that. I could say more but I m trying to be polite.
@@0331tatehe said she started liking his pics on Instagram and he checked her followers because he didn’t think it was really her at first
Yeah, they don’t understand most men give zero f**ks about a woman’s money, job, house, education, or status.
Mel is hilarious she trying to compare the optics
Being an Olympic gold medalist doesnt translate to being a great person to be with in a relationship. So I'm not sure why some women are using that as "why she's the catch". She can just as easily flip her way into gold medal, leave the arena and key her bf car and put sugar in his gas tank. im just sayin
Right
And being a football player with millions doesn’t mean any of that neither
@@downbad2874 agreed. It’s a dumb argument all around. If they’re happy who cares who is the catch.
@@downbad2874this is facts, i’d also say that women would describe that they want what you described. Although it doesn’t translate to a good man. Capable to provide yes, not necessarily a good man.
None of that gymnastics shit means anything to your relationship. At the end of the day she was in search of safety and security, amd she found it in him. He's the catch. Period.
Mel = modern woman= 😢..😂😂😂😂😂
Biles husband and guys like him =modern males😢😂😂😂
I love how Mel backtracked after she found out he was an NFL player lol
No research done. She just judged without knowing as per
Typical modern women! Useless women
Joe slow roasted her ass fr lmao
Mel is totally contradicting herself. She says let’s not look at the numbers but what she’s doing is she’s looking at Simone Biles accolades saying that’s why she’s the catch but then again she won’t recognize The Measure Ables, the man possesses as well. That gentleman is tall, handsome and successful. He can find another woman anywhere from Starbucks to a professional athlete Simone Biles cannot go out and find another man like that. This is the reason why he is the catch.
You sound crazy, Simone can’t go find another man like what an average athlete? He’s not Russell Wilson lol
No she can’t those men are not readily available and they have numerous options. You calling a NFL player an average athlete? I would love to see you go train for one week how they train. I also can tell you don’t watch sports because Russel Wilson is average which is why he is about to get cut. Modern women have over inflated egos.
@@martinwoodson2115 I don’t watch football but I do know they’re paid based on performance and he’s no where near making what a star NFL player makes. You don’t know who she could or could not get lol modern men are delusional.
@@martinwoodson2115That inflated ego hit hard, these women need to be stopped. 🤦🏾♂️
That’s not the reason he’s the catch. The reason is simple, she was the hunter and caught him, therefor he’s the “catch”… I HATE how this shit has been blown out of proportions
11:30 helluva catch
Mel never disappoint smh 🤦🏾
*she always does
The fact that she is HER and still chased a nobody actually makes the guy a more of a catch
How you figure he's a nobody? Son is a professional athlete playing in the NFL
Cause he’s a NOBODY if you don’t watch football. She’s EVERYWHERE
@@rahscrillaede im not saying he is a nobody ,im going with their logic of saying he is a nobody
Even when you use their points in what they feel is a qualified man for them, Mel still danced around.
I tried to share this on FB and its already flagged LMAO!!!! Can't wait till tmrw 🤣🤣🤣🤣
my grandma always said, the man is the catch the woman is the PRIZE.
Your grandmother was VERY WISE 😉
@@Bcryptic-de2qt that is a good one
I’ll reiterate… they have the right woman on this panel bc she’s too passive to get at them Frfr and shut all of this BS down.
Melissa Ford sounded wild dumb here.
If Lebron did an interview and said he was the catch in his marriage a lot of women would still have a problem with it. It’s really not about the accolades (it just sounds good) a lot of women just only see women as the catch
Yes indeed, they want the husband/boyfriend to act like they don’t really deserved their wife/gf. Like they at their mercy or something
@@Eziopct Correct.
Mels a doofbucket
They both are the catch. He brings what he brings to the table and so does she.
That's y I love Joe he comes wit da shits!!! 😂😂😂
Mel is the problem I’m sorry 😂
If Mel is the problem Joe would of been replaced her.....y'all folks don't even know half of the vocabulary Mel used GET OUT YOUR FEELINGS 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the laughter was a whole convo
Mel is a dub yo… The way flip was just looking at her like “wtf you talking about?” Mel crazy and flipped what she meant by numbers. Smfh
Look how quick Mel was to try to tare this man down without knowing who he was talking about he’s not a millionaire lady this man made over 7 million in the NFL so far
Also to me the catch can be the man or the women depending on who’s pursuing who
I said on twitter when this first started, “ It doesn’t matter what he did for a living. He’s a confident successful black man who knows his worth. A millionaire decorated accomplished bw knew she had to submit to get and keep the man she wanted and it drives bw crazy.” Everything Mel said makes her successful doesn’t matter to men and those are the things the modern bw bring to relationships and wonder why they fail. Mel didn’t even know who he was and was trying to diss him.
The irony in all this is if a woman don’t view you as a catch she ain’t gonna want you whether you pursue or not. No chick is hoping a guy she thinks is “alright” tries to pursue her.
How is saying someone is in a millionaire tearing them down, y’all need, Jesus
@@downbad2874 it’s the how and why. The intention is what matters. She went out of her way to say he isn’t a millionaire to try to discredit him and Ish’s point
Wow . Mel don’t know what she talkin about 🤦♂️
Joe put the bow on that, and Mel had to suppress her agreeance.
Her Olympic accomplishments have NOTHING to do with her being a catch.... she could be ALL that and be a shitty person....doesnt mean she's a catch.
mel answering yes but shaking her head no the whole time is funny as fuck 😂😂😂
This is the dumbest convo ever. They are happily married ! And these fools are arguing about who’s a catch !
I wasn’t really an argument.. I get what u mean. Fuck it they’re married but I think it’s more of a matter of how when men identify their value it’s viewed differently. Like Ish stated he is a catch by woman’s standards. Especially black woman. Got money, in shape, heterosexual, black, and NO KIDS. Shiiittt more power to Simone. She seen something she wanted and went for it, as she should. Wish more women in this day and age did what she did.
He never paid attention to gymnastics? Yeah, he’s a young guy
If you watching Gymnastics I got news for you buddy
Mel is bugging lol Simone Biles drove a whole 45 mins to meet bro lol of course he’s the catch come on
What I'm trying to get you to understand is I am better than you where would you be without me 😑
~ Patrice O'Neal
Facts, the concept is especially hard for BW to grasp.
She is very upset 😂
I already didn't have the highest opinion of Mel,and i'm going to refrain from calling her names, but my word is this embarrassing to watch for her.
let's cut the BS bro. Simone biles isn't all that cute. there are more women who want Johnathan than there are men who want Simone. he is more desirable because men don't care about Simone's finances and accolades the way women do and therefore he is the catch. call it what it is.
Bingo and that's the crux of the issue, as accomplished as Simone is she is not considered attractive, hell Cristiano Ronaldo's girl worked in a Gucci store when he met her but she's pretty.
Ish broke that shit down beautifully
Mel is such a hater man 😂😂
Why is Mel's old ass so mad?
Mel mad nobody caught her recently 😂
Big Mel, Big Mad.
I think there is a semantic problem here. There are two different versions of “the catch.” One is more literal in the aspect of being caught. And one is more theoretical in the aspect of perceived value. This is a clear showing of the difference between how men’s and women’s language works. The men are arguing from the literal sense and the woman is arguing from the theoretical interpretation. Based on the way homeboy was talking in the interview, I’m not sure which way he meant it. At first it seemed like the literal sense, but towards the end it seems like he was going the theoretical route by saying “men are always the catch.” I think there is no issue with the recount of his story if it was true. It’s perfectly fine for a woman to let a man know she is interested in him, so long as he takes that queue and begins the pursuit of her. She showed a heavy initial interest… had he not followed up by taking charge of the pursuit, they probably wouldn’t be married. Where he messed up was the comment he made at the end about men always being the catch. In that moment, he was talking to the guys casually and was not thinking about how he was representing his wife. The appropriate thing would have been to tell the story as it was, but show appreciation for Simone once asked “oh so you’re the catch.” That would have been the mature masculine thing to do. He could’ve even joked and said “well, she caught me but I’m the one who ended up blessed.” Like, idk… get creative lol
They both can be considered a catch, depending on your definition of what a catch is. However, let's be completely honest. The perspective being shared seemed embellished (to say the least). It's hard to believe that he didn't know who Simone Biles was. It's not a reach to even say/think the only reason he was interviewed was because he is her husband.
Clearly Mel is bothered
“Y’all sound so antiquated”
Antiquated would be saying that WOMEN are the catch who need to be pursued. How is that misogynistic? 🤔
Mel is hating 😂
Damn I’m not a Joe fan like that but damn the way he worded that made ‘harsh’ sense…..
She didn’t dispute the he was the catch, so why is Mel 🤷🏿♂️
Bitter citch syndrome
I think in their relationship, he’s the catch. However, to the globe, she’s the catch.
Mel look a mess this episode
Mel is upset!😠
" She's Adorable "
The UNDERTONE SHADE 😅😆🤣
She talking about respect trying to make it like that man disrespected his wife then she’s saying multi millionaire like he’s broke this is just disgusting behavior
To have that type of mindset as a 50 year old is insane 😂 aren’t you supposed to be mature ? Old and wise? She sound like a teenager 🤦🏾♂️
Damn Mel butt hurt. Reality check he was her catch
All he did was admit she was more into him than he was into her initially then he fell in love and married her. He’s young so he’s dumb enough to think we believe, he didn’t know who the most decorated gymnasts/athlete is 😂.
The point is that accolades don’t matter to men who have it all already in the dating marketplace. Her being a decorated gymnast does not increase her dating options
I agree that she made him the catch, and I also think that Melissa is correct. He should have covered his wife. We REALLY didn't need to know all of that!!
The guy NEVER SAID “He’s the catch!!!” It’s not that serious…..like WHY????
It is corny AF to be competing with your spouse and call yourself the "catch"- male or female.
Facts that was my only issue with buddy gossiping on how she was chasing him. Made simone seem thirsty n desperate but he's the catch in their situation
This is such a shit conversation 😂
I can't wait to see what they think about the Katt Williams interview!
I'm so confused why were they laughing at the end? There needs to be more than one woman on this podcast. Mel is ill equipped to handle these men.
What a catch by Joe
Men can absolutely be catch!!! There are alot of ain't Shit women out here, that don't have their stuff together.
In no way is this a fun vibe or convo. You know why!
Joe Budden u hell for that
Yea, the mentality of Mel is EVERYTHING that I “AVOID” in a partner.
Women wanna believe this fairytale that they're the only ones that can be a catch and that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Only women who are unhappy or single feel like Mel. My husband is a fucking catch and he knows it. But that doesn’t take away from me being a catch as well and knowing it. Both can exist 🥴
Mel is so done with the guys. And WHAT is she mouthing to the camera? 😂
Ish is 199% correct. Why is Mel having a hard time with this???
For starters there's a difference between being a catch and being THE catch. They both compliment each other. So if he bagged a fly gymnast then she is the catch. But I'm a believer of feeling mutual feelings for each other. He made it seem like he was hardly interested in her. So some of this is not as simple as he checks these boxes. Simone shot her shot and it hit far as she's concerned she's fine with her decision. All we can do is wish this black couple a lifetime of happiness. I just want black couples to win and be healthy.
Ish had a point about the boxes checked.
Out of curiosity how did he make it seem like he was hardly interested in her?
So the issue is that he only called himself a catch and didnt say “well i think we were a catch for each other”. I definitely think no one would have made all thisnoise if simone talked about how much he persued her because we’ve been conditioned that men are supposed to pursue women as apart of social construct
This is why Mel is single....lol
If men are providing lifestyle and security how are we not the catch. Women end up bitter and alone when men choose not to stay with them. All of a womans accolades don’t matter to men if her company is unenjoyable.
Simone Biles is not fine but her accolades are astonishing
And what was the point of this fuckin comment???
Being a beautiful woman is the LEAST rarest quality there is out here!
And beautiful is subjective. No disrespect to Joe, but being a "baddie" is not the same as beautiful. I will leave it at that.