As a consumer, I’m interested in what JT has to say. I would definitely be interested in a solo project from her because I believe she actually writes her rhymes.
There’s only like 50 people in music and entertainment than been around and relevant for over a decade it’s a small group. They did good tbh time to diversify the clout imo.
@@T11CVV So true. Nobody seems to realise that only an elite few maintain relevance, across genres, in the music industry past a decade. I think it's more than 50 but it's still a relatively small number.
As Joe asked, “PUT YOUR LABEL HATS ON”: They could do like OutKast did their last album (since similar to these girls, they had creative differences and interests) Release ONE last album together but have separate/double CD’s (A side/B side) doing their own thing, then let the outcome/success of that determine where they go from there.
Overall yes but unfortunately the kids now have been conditioned to value clout/lifestyle over actual quality/skills. That’s the whole reason a group like City Girls has a career in the first place lol…
@@dawb86 you are 1000 percent correct lol I just feel like some point won’t the same old like “ratchet” music get annoying tho? Don’t get me wrong it’s some city girls songs I like lol but I can’t listen to them all day. I could never listen to a full city girls project. With all due respect to them lol
We have to be honest here. They didn’t pop off because they are talented. It was timing of a Miami sound with two young girls willing to get as raunchy as they needed to. That had an era. Everybody was hoe-ing and naked. Maybe that is becoming played. Finally.
I couldn't agree more. Idt City Girls should split but I do think they are going to have to pivot from their normal Florida sound. As a Florida girl myself, I like their music. I will say it needs to evolve and keep up with the times tho and this album sounded like a bunch of old records they just needed to get off.🤷🏾♀️
Nobody really checking for them because they took too long in between projects to make something new, and in that hiatus too many young female rappers jumped in their lane and pushed them off the road.
It makes sense for them to break up if you heard the interview. It came off like JT was the more serious one about the music and Miami was kinda over it. And JT comes off as the better artist imo. And JT was saying last week that she was thinking about a new rap name and asking fans what it should be. That kinda comes off as creating a new space for herself as an artist. Idk im js
For a short period of time, Michael doing his family favors doesn’t justify him saying a label should want to break them up. Commenters are thinking form City Girls perspective, they are speaking from the labels side.
I don't really pay attention to them but I can at least tell that Yung Miami got something going for her with that podcast/show, JT need to find something quick cuz music look like it's over for both of them.
Emmany is right on this one. The City girls as an entity are not marketable right now. Their project flopped, they have no singles to generate interest from, they've publicly one on airwaves and stated that this isn't what they wanted. So if the artists don't believe in the project, why should the consumer? It would be in the record label's best interest to put The City Girls as an entity/brand on the shelf and allow JT to do a solo project, and Yung Miami to go off and build her brand outside of music. It's a calculated risk by the record company because they're hoping that as individuals they are able to generate enough interest in them to where they have two fan bases they can harness from and then bring them back together as the entity that is City Girls. Emmany was right that all big solo artists EVENTUALLY went back and did a group project at the height of their careers. Michael Jackson got back with the Jacksons during the height of his solo career. Bobby Brown reunited with New Edition at the height of his solo career at a time when NOBODY from New Edition was poppin outside of him. Beyonce went back and did a Destiny's Child album after blowing up as a solo. Justin Timberlake JUST RECENTLY did music with N*Sync for a movie soundtrack. David Ruffin had multiple stints with The Temptations after solo success.
2:25 so why can’t they stay together work on their brands separately and still figure out the next best important worthy move for the city girls. Which right now I feel like would be a fire video from RAW & post new instagram videos of how they were together when they first came out 🤷🏽♂️ everybody is jumping to break the group up 😭
This is such a low IQ response. JT put out a solo song a few months ago, while Yung Miami hasn't dropped a solo track since 2021. There's no conspiracy or magic behind it.
Jt should go solo she actually has a passion for rap and music. Yung Miami reminds me of the popular girl in high school that’s a air head and only want to be famous and in the spot light. Hints Diddy that’s all we know about her now. And that’s all she ever be is one of Diddy’s playmate.
Yes it’s over. People act like every artist is supposed to be A listers and have longevity. All the long drawn out theories about why things didn’t work out for fad artist.
Miami only has that podcast , she’s not into anything else and that was because of Diddy . JT has more star quality that she can go into another field .
City Girls dropping an album during the winter is insane. They need to drop a single in the spring and an album would be summer time only hitting radio and shows heavy. No one wants to play City Girls after “in my mindddddd” drops during Thanksgiving. We don’t care right now.
They sound like it makes sense...but Its Not Working right now with the outside stuff Caresha doing at this time. So if its costing them money and not making them money...time to cut your losses. Simple as that.
I’m with ole boy, JT needs to go make her own project and Young needs to go do her media influencer thing. JT really raps and YM raps be for play. That’s played out. They don’t have to break up just explore others things. I think JT is getting held back
People be on YM so bad but I actually like her verses. I will say she should really take rapping seriously atp and at least try to improve on her delivery. JT is def fire but idt it hits the same without the group.
All the ppl who criticized P and Coach K for selling QC need to apologize! They saw the writing was on the wall for most of their artist and sold the label when it was at its peak! Smart business!!
Idk what light skin dude talking about. Labels dgaf about an artist doing a podcast. Also, just cause you have a good podcast doesn’t mean people are gonna want to hear your music. Like imagine if Joe Budden dropped an album right now 😂😂
This is exactly why Cardi B wont drop another album. Theyll release singles to keep her name relevant but they know her fan base is tired of the same ratchet shit or like yal said there people now who do it better
When you make classic music you can release it at anytime and it will be a good representation of you as an artist, but when you put out raw xrated music and start to realize thats not a good image for you and your children when growing is inevitable, it’s never a good time to drop that kind of money. This happens when your a money chasing rapper and not an artist. Art can NEVER be about money and still be art it’s a money grab, rap / so called HIPHOP is about money. That’s all we talk about numbers not artistry.
Dang they said that so well. JT is essentially leaning on the growth of Miami. I really don't think JT career would go anywhere bc the market is flooded now with female rappers. So she staying to keep relevant in the rap game. Y'all know "Bars" didn't do nothing on the charts.
The new label formula due to low sales across the board for hip hop…INVEST LESS with lower expectations..music is just a s springboard..most contracts are 360…
Everything they're saying on this show is what got academics in the bullshit that he's in now he said the exact same thingEverything they're saying on this show is what got academics in the bullshit that he's in now he said the exact same thing
They were slightly innovative when they came out, but now every woman rapper has the same lyrics and topics. No one stands out! They need Ghost writers if they are going to stay with it, the lyrics don't stand out!
@@themotherlander All of Cardi’s features have flopped. Megan’s albums have all done poorly in sales. Neither of them sold out their shows, so what are you talking about turning it around. The people don’t support either of them. They both have lost popularity.
@@TallNOpinionated they have talent. They can turn it around. Megan is an outstanding rapper. She may not be huge, but she will have a solid standing of people around her. If Cardi can shut up, get her writers back in, and stop worrying about what Nicki is doing she will be solid as well. Maybe not the biggest but solid. Some solid consistency and grind will do them well. City girls, to me, don’t have much talent at least together. They were always trendy.
@@themotherlanderWhat talent does Megan have? Her mother wrote for her. That’s why her project was the best. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. Cardi has no talent if she needs writers. That’s a ridiculous point. Neither of them have the talent required to have longevity in the industry. No amount of algorithm manipulation will change that.
@@TallNOpinionated umm Megan’s mother never wrote for her. Her mother has been dead for three years, and I’ve enjoyed most of not all of her music. Plan B, Savage, all after the death of her mother. She has had numerous off-the-dome freestyles that shows she writes her shit, but idk it seems like you just don’t like her. No need to continue beating a dead horse. Talent is not only in writing. Cardi has an enjoyable rap delivery. She has stage presence. And her visuals she directs are stunning. I never mentioned that any of these ladies will have longevity, I just said they have the ability to turn it around because they have things that are very unique to them. I think you understand my points but something about you is giving angry, so I will take my leave and give you some space to collect your emotions. Have a good evening.
As a consumer, I’m interested in what JT has to say. I would definitely be interested in a solo project from her because I believe she actually writes her rhymes.
😂😂😂😂 if u believe they write anything youre crazy. Them chicks are just faces they taught how to read raps
@@mical2greatJT was rapping and writing her own bars since they was broke
@@mical2greatagreed and what they are saying in their raps infant rocket science
Spoiler alert on what JT has to say
“My pussy” “I fuck rich niggas” “I’m a rich bitch”
@@slimjimmy5801the song she blew up off of lil yachts wrote
Their 15 minutes of fame has ended. Time to pack it up. It was a good run
I agree. You gave dem an extra 10 minutes cus for me I've BEEN OVER da "HYPE"😅
they are rich now so mission accomplished 🤷
There’s only like 50 people in music and entertainment than been around and relevant for over a decade it’s a small group. They did good tbh time to diversify the clout imo.
Yeah ..look at those losers..rich af and successfully are well off for the rest of their lifes.. HA losers!
@@T11CVV So true. Nobody seems to realise that only an elite few maintain relevance, across genres, in the music industry past a decade. I think it's more than 50 but it's still a relatively small number.
Chole and Haile definitely should NOT break up they're better together side projects is fine but they're MAGIC together
chloe and hailey definitely need to do both. it’s possible for them to stay in a group and make solo music too.
They definitely need to come back once Halle is done promoting her album.
album or baby?@@mikediddyTV
Halle*
Agreed!
As Joe asked, “PUT YOUR LABEL HATS ON”:
They could do like OutKast did their last album (since similar to these girls, they had creative differences and interests) Release ONE last album together but have separate/double CD’s (A side/B side) doing their own thing, then let the outcome/success of that determine where they go from there.
They garbage ma. It is what it is.
Na we good, nobody want to hear those 2 anymore 😂😂
Outcast has talent the city girls don't. There are too many current hit making women artists to waste time on washed-up has beens.
If they can’t even sell 5,000 units as a group, who the hell is buying a double album of them making ratchet singles?
“Do like OutKast” is crazy. These harlots aren’t even on the level of Rae Sremmurd and they couldn’t do it properly 🤣
One thing I know is that good music will always prevail. A lot of these artist just don’t make good music. Period. Bars will always prevail
Overall yes but unfortunately the kids now have been conditioned to value clout/lifestyle over actual quality/skills. That’s the whole reason a group like City Girls has a career in the first place lol…
@@dawb86 you are 1000 percent correct lol I just feel like some point won’t the same old like “ratchet” music get annoying tho? Don’t get me wrong it’s some city girls songs I like lol but I can’t listen to them all day. I could never listen to a full city girls project. With all due respect to them lol
We have to be honest here. They didn’t pop off because they are talented. It was timing of a Miami sound with two young girls willing to get as raunchy as they needed to. That had an era. Everybody was hoe-ing and naked. Maybe that is becoming played. Finally.
I couldn't agree more. Idt City Girls should split but I do think they are going to have to pivot from their normal Florida sound. As a Florida girl myself, I like their music. I will say it needs to evolve and keep up with the times tho and this album sounded like a bunch of old records they just needed to get off.🤷🏾♀️
Or maybe they're too PG at this point, which is wild but the newer female rappers are even raunchier
🎯🎯💯
Honestly, they always sucked but now there are other newer women artist. They're washed and should accept it already.
FACTS!!!
“Y’all naming some names in this city girl talk” lmao
Need more hood content from them too it’s been a lot industry pushing for them.
Nobody really checking for them because they took too long in between projects to make something new, and in that hiatus too many young female rappers jumped in their lane and pushed them off the road.
A novelty act. Those usually don't stand the test of time
It makes sense for them to break up if you heard the interview. It came off like JT was the more serious one about the music and Miami was kinda over it. And JT comes off as the better artist imo. And JT was saying last week that she was thinking about a new rap name and asking fans what it should be. That kinda comes off as creating a new space for herself as an artist. Idk im js
Hip Hop is over saturated. The same thing happened to Rock,Hard Rock and Metal.
“Artist shouldn’t follow trends” i know that went over a lot of people heads
Brother in the black like super sayain Ish
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
JT should go solo for sure while Miami I think should go do more of her Podcast stuff that seems to be more her lane more than rapping
They should have let Flip get his George Michael take in 😂
Lightskin homie knew what he was talking about. Rest of them didn't know MJ came back to the group. Shit even Jordsn came back to the Bulls😅
For a short period of time, Michael doing his family favors doesn’t justify him saying a label should want to break them up. Commenters are thinking form City Girls perspective, they are speaking from the labels side.
Diddy split them up already… they just now realizing it. IMO
I don't really pay attention to them but I can at least tell that Yung Miami got something going for her with that podcast/show, JT need to find something quick cuz music look like it's over for both of them.
Emmany is right on this one. The City girls as an entity are not marketable right now. Their project flopped, they have no singles to generate interest from, they've publicly one on airwaves and stated that this isn't what they wanted. So if the artists don't believe in the project, why should the consumer? It would be in the record label's best interest to put The City Girls as an entity/brand on the shelf and allow JT to do a solo project, and Yung Miami to go off and build her brand outside of music.
It's a calculated risk by the record company because they're hoping that as individuals they are able to generate enough interest in them to where they have two fan bases they can harness from and then bring them back together as the entity that is City Girls. Emmany was right that all big solo artists EVENTUALLY went back and did a group project at the height of their careers. Michael Jackson got back with the Jacksons during the height of his solo career. Bobby Brown reunited with New Edition at the height of his solo career at a time when NOBODY from New Edition was poppin outside of him. Beyonce went back and did a Destiny's Child album after blowing up as a solo. Justin Timberlake JUST RECENTLY did music with N*Sync for a movie soundtrack. David Ruffin had multiple stints with The Temptations after solo success.
Joe give us 1 more album, I've just listened to every joe budden album/mixtape over 2 days, this man was special with the pen.
Basically do a hiatus without breaking up
George Michael reference had me in the edge of my seat 😂😂😂😂😂
2:25 so why can’t they stay together work on their brands separately and still figure out the next best important worthy move for the city girls. Which right now I feel like would be a fire video from RAW & post new instagram videos of how they were together when they first came out 🤷🏽♂️ everybody is jumping to break the group up 😭
Never took the City Girls seriously. They are RUclips or TikTok artists at best. On the 15 minutes of fame cycle, they flamed out after 6.
That Usher single came out a LONG time ago
JT has over 4 million monthly listeners on Spotify, while young Miami has under 1 million. Interesting
6 millions to be more exact
Diddy..
This is such a low IQ response. JT put out a solo song a few months ago, while Yung Miami hasn't dropped a solo track since 2021. There's no conspiracy or magic behind it.
JT will never make it as a solo artist. Sorry.
@@discourcewithdeeyou’re wrong
lol so when AK says this Saucy has a fit. I want to see how theshaderoom fiends react to this
Hip hop industry is dead…. They not interested in finding the next great artist. They jus want to make the next hit
Jt was in jail the beginning of career. Clarissa was able to form relationships while j t was incarcerated. Jt put out a song. Everyone love it.
Calling Caresha Clarissa is hilarious 😂😂😂
@@A.ShawneeLMAOOOOO
“Yo I got something dropping this week lol 😂 or next week “ 😩
They named their album after what we'd all rather do than listening to their music.
Someone tell Ish Justin Timberlake is literally back releasing new music with N’SYNC right now
JT is holding the City Girls down..The other one is too busy in a poly/bi./ open relationship with Diddy to write lyrics. JT is the real one.
CholexHalle are not broken up they each wanted to do some solo stuff but they just said a few weeks ago they’re back in the studio together
*That intro was WILD*
Jt should go solo she actually has a passion for rap and music. Yung Miami reminds me of the popular girl in high school that’s a air head and only want to be famous and in the spot light. Hints Diddy that’s all we know about her now. And that’s all she ever be is one of Diddy’s playmate.
They’ve been out whored. God willing all of this ratchet all about the bag bullshit rap music runs its course.
It’s a new generation female rap group are over now
Yes it’s over. People act like every artist is supposed to be A listers and have longevity. All the long drawn out theories about why things didn’t work out for fad artist.
“You ain’t going nowhere while you hot shorty” lol that’s really how they think , weasels
Miami only has that podcast , she’s not into anything else and that was because of Diddy . JT has more star quality that she can go into another field .
Nobody also mentions jt-no bars selling 100k as a single
100K is nothing to brag about. Other rap girls are selling millions.
@@discourcewithdee not comparing to other SOLO artist. I’m comparing to the 10K units RAW sold. It’s a big difference between 100k and 10K
@@IsthatD13how long was the song out? Was that the first week cause if not the comparison is still pointless.
@@nmw654 what you should be asking how many units did no bars sell in the first week lol
@@IsthatD13 umm what tf is no bars? I’m assuming you think I’m from one of these dumb fandoms, I’m not. Just a person on YT using logic lol
I never heard of the City Girls until their flop 🤣🤣🤣🤣
PDIddy don’t have the ear anymore.
😂😂😂
City Girls dropping an album during the winter is insane. They need to drop a single in the spring and an album would be summer time only hitting radio and shows heavy. No one wants to play City Girls after “in my mindddddd” drops during Thanksgiving. We don’t care right now.
And even more importantly they don’t care since the rollout was absolute trash.
Then they gon have to give them a new contract
No one is selling a lot of units these days...
7:13 Justin did come back to NSYNC. I think that's cuz none of them are hot right now though
They sound like it makes sense...but Its Not Working right now with the outside stuff Caresha doing at this time. So if its costing them money and not making them money...time to cut your losses. Simple as that.
I’m with ole boy, JT needs to go make her own project and Young needs to go do her media influencer thing. JT really raps and YM raps be for play. That’s played out. They don’t have to break up just explore others things. I think JT is getting held back
When speaking from their perspective, this conversation was from a labels point of view and no, that wouldn’t make sense for a label.
People be on YM so bad but I actually like her verses. I will say she should really take rapping seriously atp and at least try to improve on her delivery. JT is def fire but idt it hits the same without the group.
JT don't want to work for real. I don't think she's presently interested in carrying a solo career
@@moneypro85makes sense
Watch out Joe. Saucy Santana gone be coming for that ass…. Literally 😂
where can i find the hat joe is wearing
JT rap better…..point blank!!!! QC needs to do more to promote her❤
Caresha can do her podcast..
Yung miani can't stand alone without JT. Remember when JT was in jail. The shows were dry!!
All the ppl who criticized P and Coach K for selling QC need to apologize! They saw the writing was on the wall for most of their artist and sold the label when it was at its peak! Smart business!!
Idk what light skin dude talking about. Labels dgaf about an artist doing a podcast. Also, just cause you have a good podcast doesn’t mean people are gonna want to hear your music. Like imagine if Joe Budden dropped an album right now 😂😂
Yeah, it's Over for that City Girls shit. FR
This is exactly why Cardi B wont drop another album. Theyll release singles to keep her name relevant but they know her fan base is tired of the same ratchet shit or like yal said there people now who do it better
The new lightskin guy is right. He knows his music history, Ish and Ice have forgotten everything 😂
I hate this guy… his taking too much from the show
So why when AK says the same thing he gets pressured by buddy 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The generation that they catered to aren’t city girls anymore. They have kids now, may be married, and probably work a lot more.
Cap they still hoes n listening to sexy red now
@@HandMeDealsthose are the younger ones. She’s talking about their generation which is older. Jt will be 31 and Miami will be 30.
@@palmerareynolds thats still hoe age
Crazy that the City Girls seem too clean for today’s taste
When you make classic music you can release it at anytime and it will be a good representation of you as an artist, but when you put out raw xrated music and start to realize thats not a good image for you and your children when growing is inevitable, it’s never a good time to drop that kind of money. This happens when your a money chasing rapper and not an artist. Art can NEVER be about money and still be art it’s a money grab, rap / so called HIPHOP is about money. That’s all we talk about numbers not artistry.
People really manifested this and thats wild to me
We're not talking about New Edition 🤫 this is the only group that this has happened with 6:51
Dang they said that so well. JT is essentially leaning on the growth of Miami. I really don't think JT career would go anywhere bc the market is flooded now with female rappers. So she staying to keep relevant in the rap game. Y'all know "Bars" didn't do nothing on the charts.
The new label formula due to low sales across the board for hip hop…INVEST LESS with lower expectations..music is just a s springboard..most contracts are 360…
Idk who the new guy is but he’s disrespectful…”girl”…”lil thing on the side”…”Chloe and Haille girls” LOL who are you even?
03:07 that silent pause was Mad Awkward
Everything they're saying on this show is what got academics in the bullshit that he's in now he said the exact same thingEverything they're saying on this show is what got academics in the bullshit that he's in now he said the exact same thing
Yes
You can tell it’s over by they promo run for the album. The chemistry is not there.
They were slightly innovative when they came out, but now every woman rapper has the same lyrics and topics.
No one stands out!
They need Ghost writers if they are going to stay with it, the lyrics don't stand out!
That ish clone in the black long sleeve was cooking
Emmany is so good at this, he's a natural ❤
The promotion was bad
Where’s this energy for Cardi B and Megan who both their songs have flopped.
they talked about it. Also, they have the ability to turn that around. I’m not sure City Girls does
@@themotherlander All of Cardi’s features have flopped. Megan’s albums have all done poorly in sales. Neither of them sold out their shows, so what are you talking about turning it around. The people don’t support either of them. They both have lost popularity.
@@TallNOpinionated they have talent. They can turn it around. Megan is an outstanding rapper. She may not be huge, but she will have a solid standing of people around her. If Cardi can shut up, get her writers back in, and stop worrying about what Nicki is doing she will be solid as well. Maybe not the biggest but solid. Some solid consistency and grind will do them well.
City girls, to me, don’t have much talent at least together. They were always trendy.
@@themotherlanderWhat talent does Megan have? Her mother wrote for her. That’s why her project was the best. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. Cardi has no talent if she needs writers. That’s a ridiculous point. Neither of them have the talent required to have longevity in the industry. No amount of algorithm manipulation will change that.
@@TallNOpinionated umm Megan’s mother never wrote for her. Her mother has been dead for three years, and I’ve enjoyed most of not all of her music. Plan B, Savage, all after the death of her mother. She has had numerous off-the-dome freestyles that shows she writes her shit, but idk it seems like you just don’t like her. No need to continue beating a dead horse.
Talent is not only in writing. Cardi has an enjoyable rap delivery. She has stage presence. And her visuals she directs are stunning. I never mentioned that any of these ladies will have longevity, I just said they have the ability to turn it around because they have things that are very unique to them.
I think you understand my points but something about you is giving angry, so I will take my leave and give you some space to collect your emotions. Have a good evening.
Pack it up.
So u mean they not gonna farm plays for them for not agreeing with them
Nobody wants to hear that same stale sound anymore anyway. We heard everything they have to give
Careful Joe. This is the same shit that got Saucy Santana threatening to take Akademiks butt
Why not break up? Can it really get any worse?
I had a good laugh from this episode
I ageee with emanny 100%
City Girls are the female version of Playaz Circle. Careesha is 2 Chainz, JT is Dolla Boy.
So in 2 years yall couldn't make new singles? Huh?? Old ass Nas did 6 albums in 3 years in his 40s. No excuse for not making new music
The light skin dude was right. Definitely separate so we can assess who’s who in the group.
Who is the new light skin guy on the pod?
I’m not a fan, like who is this guy?
I like the song with Kim Petras but I’m not going to download it
It's going to be hard sexxyredd done took over.
Damn it's another new person? Who is the new lightskinned guy?
The turn over rate is nuts on JBP
City Girls were a brand everything else comes from the groups success
The group dies nothing else is that successful to carry them
Who are the City Girls....what. That's like a meme, who are you talking about lmfao
Poor J T
The City Girls are terrible! They aren’t talented at all! Please don’t bring up Chloe & Halle. They actually have talent!
But some of them only in it for the money so once they make it they might as well pack it up
I thought albums were a thing of the past? Why are they still talking about album sales?