How GOOD was Genesect ACTUALLY? - History of Genesect in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 5-7)
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Genesect is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Genesect in competitive Pokemon!
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2:01 - BW/Gen 5
10:13 - XY/Gen 6
13:44 - SM/Gen 7
16:44 - Outro
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent. I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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"It's like running Choice Scarf and Choice Band on the same set"
How foreshadowing is Galarian Darmanitan actually
Lmao frl
Omega oof
Lol
Oh God 😂
Choice band or choice specs
I always found it funny that genesect got blaze kick. It is such an obscure move for it to get and burning your own foot while you are a steel/bug doesn't seem like the smartest idea.
It probably has jet boots although i see what you mean
Freezing your own fist while you're a Dragon/Flying type probably isn't a good idea either.
@@slashdeath9700 in that case one would think Nitro Charge would be a better idea. or flare blitz. by being propulsed by teh rocket in its back being surronded in flames "Human Torch Jim Hammond" style
Gyarados can learn Thunderbolt and Thunder... so yeah talk about bad ideas ey? :P
@@ianr.navahuber2195 i mean I don't think it would be able to flare blitz cuz as what i see in animation, it would have to have fire energy around itself and then crash into something (based on the animation of flare blitz)
Ah yes, the last mythical to be actually related to the lore of the games it's in and not an afterthought/movie tie-in
I mean Diancie probably fits with Kalos, Lazyfreak just made no attempt implementing it.
It's a special kind of Carbink, that's all we know
They seem to be "trying" with Calyrex
@@quasarRei But Calyrex is a legendary.
@@cintronproductions9430 Oh right, it does look pretty ugly
8:56 "It was like running choice band and choice scarf on the same set."
3 generations later, an icy gorilla would use this to also get banned from OU.
and that icy Gorilla packs alot more of a physical Punch then genesect ever did :P
@@Y0G0FU it ain't gonna check genesect tho
@extreme odst you actually wanna run flare blitz on Darmanitan but it gets outsped by scarf Genesect, which can demolish it with iron head
@@fabrizioorpianesi6670 yea, before genesect was banned in natdex it was a great scarfer since it dealt with so many common scarfers/fast pokemon. Iron head for g darm, uturn for momentum while doing nice amounts of damage on greninja, flamethrower for megagross, etc. I miss it xD
Or double band for the full unga bunga experience
In Ubers...
Genesect: "This tier isn't big enough for the two of us."
Mewtwo: "You're right..."
Mewtwo mega evolves into mega y and flamethrowers it
Yi Zao you mean discount lifeorb mewtwo?
@@yizao9289 gensect: hold my choice scarf bug buzz/u turn
V-create mega Rayquaza entered the chat.
Gensect and mewtwo left
@@shakthi4083 not every mega ray is scarfed, some put life orb, specs, band focus sash on it. Download boosted special genesect with modest nature and ice beam with scarf destroys it. And mewtwo Y modest can also ice beam him back into orbit. Since it’s faster than mega rayquaza regularly. I’d say they have somewhat of a chance. But they’re not as good as rayquaza due to genesect having a lower stat distribution and thus not having the necessary speed to throw specs on him. Which makes is why genesect has a disadvantage and mewtwo can’t hold an item. If it could he’d be far>mega ray
I just realized what Genesect coming to Sword and Shield means:
Download-boosted Steel Beam.
Oh no...
If it can learn it, which it might be able to
@@RBatman5000 Oh it will, Steel Beam is teachable to EVERY Steel-typed Mon.
@@cintronproductions9430, damn I didn't know that, steel beam genesect gonna be broken
@@RBatman5000 -_-
Poor Genesect. Too strong for OU, but too weak for Ubers. What a shame for my favorite mythical...
The Lack Of Speed Makes It Hard To Use
Darkrai and Shayman sky knows it’s pain.
How about Deoxys, Blaziken, Reshiram, Palkia, and Mega Kangaskhan? Man Gen 7 had so many useless Ubers roaming around.
Another Deoxys Normal. The path is paved with many mons too degenerate for OU but too weak for ubers
And there's still no such thing as "OUBL".
I'm still so mad that Genesect got Blaze Kick before Rapidash did.
Genesect: E-Rated Predator.
EDIT: The fact there were more Terminator lines than Predator lines being quoted in this video hurts.
nice arceus pfp
Yeah, that was a False Swipe lol
nah, Genesect looks more like a TOHO mecha called Dolcross, even having the same shape, colour, and transformation
@@dunkanbulk14 interesting, what kindof movies?
@@skiffy8121 a series actually, Chouseishin Gransazer, Dolcross was the mecha of the Wind Tribe, initially the antagonist who were tricked by the villain into thinking the other Gransazers were villains, later joining them after discovering the ruse
Fun fact: Rock Polish isn't the only +2 Speed boosting move that genesect gets. It actually got shift gear too. Which is a better version of Rock Polish. +2 speed +1 attack. It had the physical and special moves to be a horrifying mix attacker. Especially if it got a +1 in special from download. +1/+1 made it a boss of mix attacking.
Wait then why wasn't it used often then?
@@dornthememe7455 don't think anyone thought of that
@@dornthememe7455 shift was an event locked into the shiny Genesect with Hasty. Smogon players abused it a lot tbh
@@dornthememe7455 Only the hasty shiny Genesect got the move but yeah good question
I swear he didn't get shift gear till an X and Y event where it was locked into a hasty nature. So that's why he didn't mention it in gen 5.
Edit: nevermind I'm a dumbass.
Aaaaaaaand five days into Crown Tundra OU, it’s banned
*Clown Tundra
Bro
I was pissed at that ban he was the star of my all bug o.u team since I don't have mega beedrill anymore
Alternate title: How annoying was u-turn actually?
And in this video, we will talk about these competitive formats. In it's debut generation, U-Turn guaranteed a free switch to have another pokemon take a hit while also doing some damage is a bad sign of an annoying move. Vespiquen, Yanmega, and Scizor was everywhere because of the move alone. Later on, Volt Switch in Gen 5 and Flip Turn in Gen 8 became just as popular because it did the exact same thing U-Turn did. And that's it so how ANNOYING was U-Turn ACTUALLY? Very annoying. It was everywhere, and almost everyone had U-Turn along with Volt Switch and Flip Turn. Never wanna see those moves ever again. Thanks for reading my Ted Talk.
How annoying was volt turn actually
@@RBatman5000 switch*
@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 Volt Turn is a strategy that uses both U-Turn and Volt Switch.
@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619, I'm referring to the use of both volt switch and u-turn
Only change to Genesect I want is to let the Drives for Techno Blast also give a 20% boost in power to that element. Signature moves shouldn't be so easily disregarded.
but in a way that only the actual owner of that move can abuse said signature move.
we don't want what happened between darkrai and smeargle to repeat
The move (after the boost) is stronger than judgement of all things, only equal in power if Arceus (which always has if it is running the move) has a plate and Genesect a drive, which may not be the case. A drive for each type would gave him a Niche in Ubers since it would be able to lure and heavily worn down Groudon primal with a ground type move , so that it cant check Xerneas anymore.
Also Smeargle wouldnt use the move even if it had 180 bp
@@hiei49 Keep in mind that unlike Arceus, Genesect never gets STAB on Techno Blast. Even factoring in both 20% boosts, Judgement hits harder.
@@ianr.navahuber2195 nah. Smeargle should have been allowed to keep Dark Void. That move in particular was just too broken and needed to be nerfed. 90% accuracy sleep inducing that hits all enemies is absurd. But they nerfed it way too hard and are starting to kill Smeargle's entire identity.
I think it would be cool if genesect changed it's steel type to correlate with it's respective drive.
And History Repeats Itself, Genesect has been quickbanned yet again.
Sad
It might be re released in ou when more pokemon come in
Doubt it. Maybe next gen when powercreep hits the ceiling.
Why even try at this point. This pokemon should just be quickbanned, it's obnoxious.
Is that a Gunvolt profile picture?
Genesect is still so absurd even Gen 8’s National Dex OU deemed it too powerful.
Kabutops got the last laugh after all.
Bruh -.-
yo kabutops is back?
@@jakedonovan622 no he was talking about the national dex format of pokemon showdown
JC Soltura damn
Will gen 2 battling explained ever come out?
How good was:
Gen 1: normals, psychics, wrap, critical hits, status, amnesia
Gen 2: curse, rest talk, special split, spikes, items
Gen 3: abilities, natures, ivs, evs, choice band, calm mind
Gen 4: physical special split, stealth rock, life orb, choice scarf, choice specs, explosion, skarmbliss, bidoof
Gen 5: weather, ferrothorn, huge powercreep, fighting types, eviolite, volt-turn, dream world, dragmag
Gen 6: fairies, knock off buff, dark and ghost hitting steel for neutral damage, megas, defog buff
Gen 7: z moves, tapus, ultra beast
Gen 8: dynamax, heavy duty boots, teleport, dexit
You forgot
Gen 3: Substitute+Focus punch/calm mind
Gen 7: the bane of my existence, TOXAPEX
I like how gen 4 and gen 6 are the longest ones
Gen 6: The primals,mega rayquaza
And xerneas
@@Ego-Fiend xerneas in vgc will make wolfey rage lmao
Gen 5: weather, ferrothorn, huge powercreep, Dragon Spam, Fighting Spam
Dragon's were so viable, second stage Dragon Types were running in NU spamming Outrage such as Dragonair, Gibite, pre-evo of Haxorus, Shelgon and even Zweilos
Heatran: eat my FIRE BLAST!!!
Genesect: *casually uturns out*
Heatran: 0_o
Genesect: Parry this you filthy casual!
*Uses HP Ground*
Diglet: "sup?"
Heatran: oh your scared of me?
Dugtrio: hi there
Heatran: oh no
Heatran has consumed its shed shell
Genesect: u turn time again
Dugtrio: *Sup bitches*
and then fire blast missed
Sword and Shield CT DLC Week 1: Genesect is in OU
Week 2: Banned along with Naganadel
Damn
Team plasma: NOOO you can’t force Pokémon to train and battle against each other, it’s unethical! They need to be liberated!
Ghetsis probably: haha living weapon with giant gun go brrrrrrrrrrrr
Don't question lord Ghetsis's methods.
@@aplasmagruntandhisgarbodor8250 lmao
"Kyurem use kill child!"
@@rajt9996 aka u?, ok I won
Cringe
Genesect in OU: Terminator Duology
Genesect in Uber (Post Gen 5): Dark Fate.
~~Dont Insult Darkness~~
@extreme odst tfup
Genesect should've been OU since the beginning because it performed awful at gen 6 and 7 ubers.
@@geraldeguzman it WAS ou
Keyword WAS
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To be fair, free VPNs are more than likely installing spyware to sell your information, the same way free antiviruses do, so paid for VPNs are usually better. Also, this guy is just reading an ad-read and more than likely doesn't even know how it works
Why he bothered at explaining a brand's app?
@@borby4584 shadow legends is meh
Genesect: I am the king of OU!
Primal Groudon: Welcome to the new world.
Genesect used TEABAG! Genesect was banned from OU!
Genesect used TEABAG! Genesect was beaten to death in UBERS!
What do you mean my "TEABAG"?
There are some sad cases of this, a Pokémon too strong for OU and too weak in Ubers. Like mega metagross, like come on just look at its SM OU description, outclassed by necrozma sogaleo
@adam3560 adam3560 What i meant was how can Genesect use a TEABAG?
@@togakhan1274 i believe it's a joke reference to combat games where players taunt their opponents for being noobs or making a mistake or just for being a dick and flexing their superior "skills" on their oppoenets or just to disrespect. Meanwhile most of the same players who do this would also get absolutely destroyed by professionals or just really really skilled players
I hope our cyborg bug friend becomes good again.
It's a shame that techno blast isn't good. I love signature moves, and it's always a shame if they're bad.
If I were to try and fix it, I'd do two things. One, make it steel instead of normal. Signature attacks should be stab, that just makes sense.
Two, make the drives a key item instead of a held item. Consolidate them into something like a "drive case", which you can then use on genesect to change the drive type. Now it can utilize the douse drive without having to give up scarf/life orb/ whatever you want on it.
It got a boost in power rivaling the former power of Fire Blast, Thunder, Blizzard and Hydro Pump. I recall it doing more damage with Fire Type Techno Blast than a Life Orb boosted Flamethrower.
But I doubt GF would give it any further of a power boost to make it worthwhile. I mean who runs the signature moves of the Latis?
No
@@M3rtyville Honestly Tried Techno Blast Technic And Barely Could Do A Thing, So I'm Still With The Exploaion Normal Gen Genesect To do Severe Damage
@@M3rtyville it did get boosted, but it still doesn't see much play. I don't really see it getting buffed again either, but I would like to.
It's a legendary, it really should have a powerful move.
Tell that to darkrai poor thing has had its signature move outdone by fucking hypnosis.
surprised that shift gear wasn't mentioned at all. I know it was an event exclusive move but considering it's just a better rock polish i felt like that would've given it some warrant to talk about
Apparently it was locked to a hasty genisect since I only watch these videos for fun and don’t know how natures work, I don’t know what that really means, but it’s apparently bad...
Hasty wasn't that bad. It raises Speed and lowers Defense, which is what mixed attackers like to pick a lot of the time. It's just that setup moves are incompatible with Choice Scarf.
That event was released after the genesect ban, and in Uber’s... where setting up is not easy, nor really viable.
“No scarfer had ever been as purely dominant as Genesect”
Galarian Darmanitan: Allow me to introduce myself
Nah, Genesect is still better. It had the opportunity for a free choice band or specs and way better coverage.
Yeah but dexit
"Being able to effectively run both Choice Band and Choice Scarf was amazing."
Garm: *PATHETIC!*
@@Hnui03 genesect: you dare call me pathetic you little snowman hears a ironhdead
@@kristianschuff1723 Hehe Ice Monke go Flare Blitz
Genesect Pokédex entries:
_So basically Team Plasma was crazy af and put a cannon on a bug._
I'm glad to be apart of team plasma.
Don't question my inventions
Plasmaa forever
I mean, they were willing to flash freeze an entire city. Putting a huge gun on an old dusty bug probably started as a funny joke for them
@@aplasmagruntandhisgarbodor8250 I can't help but notice the Mon you have just so happens to be one of my fellow Garbodors.
Genesect's counters in OU: None, maybe Heatran or some sort of Fire type... Unless it runs Water Techno-Blast or HP Ground, in that case it is uncounterable
Genesect's counters in Ubers: EVERYTHING. Bruh, even Xerneas (weak to Steel) counters it. Well, at least in Gen V Ubers it is pretty good
Genesect was pretty easy to counter... if you guessed the set correctly. What got it banned was not how powerfull it was.. it got banned because it was too versatile on top of having decent stats. There where far stronger Pokemon then Genesect but they only had 1 maximum 2 viable sets. Genesect had 4+ and if you guessed wrong it was game over.
@@Y0G0FU welcome to Noobsgon
@@Y0G0FU the competitive definition of "counter" has come to mean a mon that can reliable switch in AND force the mon in question out or beat it. As opposed to a check which is just being able to beat the target 1v1. In that definition of the word op is right
Rotom-Heat was an excellent counter, but it was a pretty specialized mon and got worn down quickly from U-Turn with rocks up.
@@GIR177 No longer would that apply with HDB.
0:28 He's a super fighting robot!
0:31 MEGA MAN!
Nice try fanboy lol
FIGHTING TO SAVE THE WORLD!!!
Hah
Genesect: wanna see me get banned from OU?
*gets unbanned in XY*
Wanna see me do it again?
Welcome to Noobsgon
*gets unbanned again in SM*
And another one
𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝘂𝗻𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗦𝗦
Wanna see me do it a fourth time?
Banned from OU speedrun
In the event that Genesect was indeed a Kabutops, it's really funny to see that it's main resistance, Fire, becomes it's ultimate and only weakness
WE DON'T USE THE WORD ITS AS A PRONOUN IF THERE'S AN APOSTROPHE IN IT!
@@Amelia4111 exactly, you can just say its or its'
@@Amelia4111 Holy moly the grammar police.
Admittedly, I did learn something from what you said, so I don't mind.
this is the original Paradox Pokemon
bring back Genesect pls GF
First of I don't think Genesect and Kabutops are indeed related ...
“It’s like running choice band and choice scarf at the same time”
Galarian Darmanitan: *sweating*
Now
Get ready for zacian (not crowned)
I love seeing Bug-Type representation. They're better than most people give them credit for.
Before gen 5 there were 3 consistently good bug types: heracross, scizor, and forretress. Two of these are also steel types. Bugs developed a reputation as cannon fodder for a reason - it took power creep to fix that problem.
No, they're really not. Fighting and Ground resistance is nice, but still doesn't save Bug from being easily one of the worst typings in the game, and it takes mons with especially good stats and strong secondary typings to be able to rise above that handicap to be good. Outside of U-turn, a lot of the best ones don't even run their Bug STAB much anymore because the coverage is so bad.
What about Yanmega?
@@jjc4924 I forgot about Yanmega to be honest. Maybe there were 4 then (though bug/flying is still an _awful_ defensive type combination).
Discount Chocolate you say power creep, I say type balancing
Genesect has always held a special place in my heart because it was the very first event Pokemon I ever received all the way back in BW2, which was also the very first Pokemon game I ever played. I still have that Genesect to this day in Sword and Shield.
Back when mythicals had their own stories
well, he was given to you by a random guy, but still had his own story if you brought it somewhere specific
I got from a random guy in b2 lol
@@M3rtyville Mew was also given to you for free....
But in a Japan exclusive event.
@Ahmad Adnan Wi-Fi events
I've always liked Genesect. In fact it was one of the pokemon I was using in my playthrough of White 2 before my old 3DS got stolen.
ouch, R.i.P. their bud
Dude same. Everything with that story happened to me. I was so upset. I put over 700 hours into it.
@@kripdom7778 To be fair though it was partially my fault. I was told not to bring it into the park (Universal studios) by my parents but I didn't listen and someone took it from my pocket while I was napping. From what I remember I was at the part in the game where the town froze over.
Genesect is the best for me.
Stolen?
me: Genesect is super strong, no u-word today!
FSG: 15:29
I'm getting sick of these "haha he said unfortunately" comments.
A U-word to a U-Turn!↩
I see what he did!👀
@@3.2187_Kilometres me too, bud me too.
@@3.2187_Kilometres same
Not gonna lie, I thought the Gene in Genesect's name referred to genocide. And I thought that this robot bug aims to wipe up some sort of civilization.
Then I learned that it refers to genes, since Genesect can change type according to the drive that it's holding.
Just in case you misunderstood the drives, they change the type, on it's signature move, Technoblast, not on Genesect itself.
I thought it refered to genesis. Since it's a prehistoric Pokemon being reborn into a new beginning.
If it refers to genes, it should be pronounced Gene-sect (genes+insect), not "Genosect".
I don't blame you for initially thinking that, considering how seemingly most people (including Kellen himself) pronounce the thing's name
"It was like running Choice Scarf and Choice Band on the same set"
*Galarian Darmanitan knows a lot about that*
Terminator bug vs S N O W M O N K E
Unga bunga!
Cintrón Productions i got my mattress ready!
What if, you wanted to kill Galarian Darmanitan but icicle crash went *Flinch*
What if you wanted to survive a resisted attack, but Afro Ice Monke said : Choice Band + Choice Band
This is legitimately one of the Pokemon I want the most! Yet, mythicals are oftentimes way too hard to get.
When I was younger, Arnold Schwarzenegger and all of his movies (especially the Terminator) were some of my favorite things to watch, and he was my favorite actor. I love the little nods to him in this video.
Gen 5 Genesect and Zacian are the pure definition of what happens when you give a Pokemon excellent coverage on top of an ability that boosts their best stat when switched in and Zacian takes that to extreme levels, even in the Hero form because of held items. Then you have Zamazenta who... Is outclassed as a wall by Eternatus. Despite being the Shield Pokemon. Also, from what I hear Hero Zamazenta is actually better in almost, if not, every possible way than Crowned. That’s sad.
believe it or not, now that both zacian forms have been banned, now zam-crowned has found more of a concrete niche, bc it's able to check yveltal and it's blazing fast speed and decent attack allows it to pose a decent thread that is not paper thing... it also checks other annoyances such as eternatus, zekrom, Garmanitan, choice band weavile, and necrozma-dusk-mane ,and it is one of the very few pokemons in the game that without defense evs, can withstand a choice specs astral barrage from calyrex-shadow
@@femursike-18 Why is 130 Attack only “decent?”
@@skeetermania3202 cuz it can't hold an item, n that significantly decreases the power of it's attacks, and it doesn't learn swords dance to compensate, so it's unable to break through common checks like buzzwole, groudon and it gets very short agaisn't things like kyogre or ho-oh, which is supposed to threaned with wild charge
@@femursike-18 Is that really a dealbreaker?
@@skeetermania3202 since we are talking about ubers, which is a tier filled with bulky monsters... yeah it's a big deal
So basically it got banned once people realized that genesect wasn't married to the choice scarf set.
"....and then came ORAS"
Almost every mons before ORAS: Welp gg, bye.
Genesect is one of those Pokémon whose history reinforces the idea that there should be a new tier between OU and Uber, where the least powerful Ubers and most powerful OU should reside. That'd make bad Ubers like Reshiram or Genesect and eternal UUBLs like Weavile or Staraptor much more used.
OUBL?
There arent enough pokemon to make that tier interesting
Weavile is OU now
That just defeats the purpose of both ou and ubers. If there were a new Smogon tier, just add zu, if there is already enough strong Pokemon down there, such as Kangaskhan, Alcremie, Altaria, Alolan Sandslash, Tangela, they shouldn’t have to be burdened with the “Untiered” label. Also ZU has a good active player base so that wouldn’t be a problem.
@@jagjitpradhan2038 S- at that. Seriously, when did it get so good?
Wow, I was very disappointed by Genesect's performance. Whenever Gen 5 Ubers was discussed, Gensect was mentioned. I thought it was a god there but turns out it was just spamming U Turn and once things got bulkier, it just dropped out of favour. I also thought this was going to be extremely long with all it's drives but apparently it never used them.
Side Note: I found it will be Bug funny there at the end.
That's What Happens When U Lack Of Speed =/
It might have fallen out of favor in ubers but it was beyond strong for ou, and it still had its moments in ubers.
Only the Douse Drive was used
@@murlocmaster6192 My man what you are referring to is viability. Sure it is better than all mons that are OU. But what I was talking about was performance. It never really saw the light of day because of being stuck in middle of OU and Ubers. It was just a forgotten mon that nobody was using. In this regard something like Kangaskhan is better because she dominated whatever lower tier she ended up falling in. She had a much better performance in say PU than Genesect did in Ubers.
It is really just my opinion but I feel a mon has a better history if it is good in it's own tier even if it is a lower tier than something that is not that good in a higher tier.
@@togakhan1274 first of all, did we watch the same video? Also it wasent stuck in ou, for a brief period it WAS ou. So stupid busted that all bowed to it. It PERFORMED so well that everyone was using it. And in uber... I felt it did ok. I never found it to be overwhelming but at the time i found it quite respectable for the tier. It would always pose a threat to me in some way shape or form till yea eventully no1 cared about it. But everynow and then il see som1 usin it to moderate success.
When 80% of the video is a single generation, that's bad news.
Not in all cases, in other cases, it could just mean that the Pokemon got less versatile but is still good
Cries in claydol
Unfortunately Report
Unfortunately was said at 15:29
This has been the Unfortunately Report
I'm really getting sick of the "haha he said unfortunately" comments.
That's unfortunate
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@@3.2187_Kilometres What's With The Unfortunately Report Spam, This has To Be Dropepd
@@3.2187_Kilometres dropped*
This video made me remember when I was still playing smogon format in xy... I used to use a team I loved that had shiny Genesect, Mega Lucario and Dugtrio... All of the three were either banned or had the ability banned lol
Right now I cannot remember the other team members, but you gave me feels, Genesect is also cool af, I love it and his lore
The way how kellen laughs a at the u word is terrifying
How good was Durant actually let’s get all the steel bugs done!
Wormadam trash cries in loneliness
SMH talking about Durant when you forgetting Escaviler, from the same gen and won Worlds.
Funny bug
Banded + Hustle boosted First Impression does more damage than +2 Adamant ESpeed Arceus. It's fuckin' bonkers
Funny steel ant.
0:13 "It is the strongest Pokemon in history!" Well that aged poorly, didn't it GameFreak?
Yeah, everyone knows the most OP and unbeatable Pokémon are F*CKING FOLLOW ME TOGEKISS AND DRACOVISH!!!
Eternatus
its at least way too strong for OU
Was not even the strongest Pokémon of his generation.
@@RandalfElVikingo kyurem white/Excadrill gets that title for sure.
Genesect: *Exists in Uber*
Primal Groudon: You picked the wrong house, fool!
8:56 it’s like running scarf and band at the same time
galar darm: allow me to introduce myself
Bruh, it was the first pokemon to be baned on gen 8 lol
Funnily enough, only one person voted No ban while Naga got unanimously kicked.
I like how usually the gameplay shows the featured pokemon dying or taking hits, while it just shows this genesect 1HKOing every OU pokemon. Its true
Who's back after it got banned from gen 8 OU?
That 99 speed is such a tease. Makes you have to run choice scarf just to out run all the plethora of base 100s 🙄
It's coated in steel armor and has a massive cannon on its back so 99 speed is actually suprising, it could have been a LOT slower, LOL.
@@cintronproductions9430, true
Cintrón Productions Purugly would like a word with you 😐
@@SoggySlopster Never underestimate a cat's speed and agility, even when their a little high on the chonk scale.....
Cause as a cat owner I can confirm that if they wanted to, they'd run like olympic athletes~
Hydreigon: First time?
They're dropping Genesect into OU again. How long do y'all think it'll last this time?
I'm giving it a week
Two weeks at most
The awnser is 5 days. It and Naga just got kicked
@@sayvionwashington1939 Wait, Naganadel too? I thought it would be more manageble without Z-Moves, but I guess not
@@grunkleg.3110 nah, they deemed Naga more dangerous than crap like Lando-I and Kyurem-B, clown council.
Thanks for the upload! Love the longer lengths of these newer ones.
Its basically scizor but with more speed and special with the cost of being less iconic or cool as scizor
I think Genesect is pretty cool...
Genesect is epic I love him
But it’s the Metal Gear of Pokemon.
Genesect is way cooler than Scizor (mind you it's not that hard to be better than the worst steel bug type)
Scizor is still good though.
@@3.2187_Kilometres Not To Mention That Scizor Is Spectacular At Checking Any Fairy Types With Bullwt Punch, And It Cam Stop Xern From Sweeping After Power Herb Geomancy, And Its HP Got Sort Of Low
Genesect in OU: strong doge
Genesect in Ubers: sad cheems
Imagine if Ghetsis had that in his back pocket in BW2
Ghetsis: *Sees you didn't pack a fire type or a fire type move*
*Evil laughing*
People who started with Emboar would laugh back
Genesect got banned in Gen 8, what are your thoughts?
horrible in ubers lmao
"Primal Groudon and Mega Salamence continuing to exist"
Okay that made me laugh
Latios and latias: fast but not as fast as a fat cat😔
Genesect: not fast and not fast😔
"oh I haven't watched this one yet"
*Uploaded 18 minutes ago*
👀
Never expected to be low in Ubers, Yes Ik That Has All The bIg Guys There, But Seeing Scizor Outclass Gemesect, Is A Down Hit
My knowledge is more on the older gen Pokémon 😅 so I'm glad that I found this video. You now have a new subscriber 😎
Maybe Genesect will be great in Ubers again when it appears in Gen 8 since there are no megas or primals in Galar.
And new moves like Steel Beam lol
Josh Clough oh crap
Unfortunately for it, Necrozma Duskmane still exists and completely outclasses it. Ho-Oh is still a big threat and crushes Genesect, and Ferrothorn is greatly preferred. Download is just too unreliable to use in Gen 8 Ubers and it's lacking the kind of power to overcome the common walls of Ubers.
Genesect: *Becomes obsolete in gen 6-7 ubers*
Darkrai: First time?
Well in gen 6 Genesect was just only used as a niche pick and in gen 7 it was completely obscure and fringe there
The latis : "can you stop preying on me..."
*looks at darkrai and genesect
"....FOR 5 MINUTES?!?"
I’ve been waiting for this for so long
My favorite pokemon :] i loved using this thing in like the 2 weeks it was allowed in a lot of OU metagames, and I got my first one in BW2 on my birthday, which happened to be the last day you could get one. Such a badass pokemon
15:29 Here you go, *UNFORTUNATELY*
1:56 skip promotion.
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
Despite the occasional scripting mistakes this video is one of the most thorough I've seen in a good long time. The gen 5 segment even gave some really great insight on item bluffing and the optimization of Life Orb on set up sweepers, both of which are things that I've never really understood very well. Even mentioning Techno Blast and Douse Drive for both its coverage and Knock Off resist is really great. Its a pity this thing has a hard time fitting into a tier and its constant shifting makes Pokemon like Darkrai and Mega Kangaskan feel really jealous in gen 7
Lmao never knew Latin twins was a threat against genesect
*But For Real So Hilarious When He Misspells Words*
6:15 Didn’t know Genesect was outsped by both Thundurus-T and Thundurus-T
Lol
There has to be more bug mythicals because I really like genesect and I would like to see even one more bug mythical
Keep up the great content False Swipe Gaming!
That's A Mythical, Honestly Legendary Bug Types Wouldn't Work If Its A Mon That Is Made For Taking Hits, Being A Tank And Return Hits, Cuz Bugs Is A Mediocre Type At defending That Is So Dependent To Be Merged With Steel To Be Actually Good, But Ice Will Be The Worst At Defending, It Would Be AFast Sweeper Then :/
X-Tray Unleashed true I guess
Just imagine if two of its health stats were in speed so it outran base 100s.
5 times banned in 4 separate generations of OU (counting Natdex OU). I hope we learn our lesson next time.
Shiny Genesect existed in Gen 5 too. Sadly it didn't get the chance to grind it's shift gears in OU
"Is it gonna be OU?"
"Nah leave it in Ubers"
This but in every gen
Not in gen 5
Where is your pfp from?
@@wiktordykas5513 custom pfp, just a bloody X for now, until late November
@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 no im asking the OP
@@wiktordykas5513 lmao none is called OP but I am OP in powah
That sponsor plug was amazingly smooth
Ngl, its quite fun using a scarf genesect in Gen7 AG. Due to it being almost never seen (from what I've seen), many people just don't seem to know how to counter it.
Meloetta next, please! She is so underrated, and I get so much usage out of her!
Don't over think that
Earth Power PLZ Don’t overthink what...?
@@asuuki2048 It was for me
Earth Power PLZ I... what?
Genesect is what happens when Scizor or Escavelier gets a high Special Attack and Speed Stat
I hate the Mon in your profile pic, Every time i see it I get hit by leaf storm.
Seismitoad You’re funny👌
@@smackjack78 Thank you.
@@seismitoad9163 serviper is the best gen five starter In my opinion and competitive wize
Quagsire: Grass? What's That? *you are dead, not big surprise*
Nice work. How about Cresselia and/or Ferrowthron next?
scizor : you took everything from me.
genesect: i don't even know who you are
Mega scizor- Now you will 😈
You know I was just wondering how cool it would be if FSG covered Genesect and lo and behold!!!
Genesect is my fav legendary as well as up there with my fav Pokemon of them all plus Purple is my fav colour so I am soo glad your highlighting it , Awesome Video take care everyone hugs :)
Hugs Are For Gays...
@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 Since when
@@declansargent7813 -_- yeah just dont freaking not
I wonder how short the Phione video is gonna be
Why did Genesect’s U-turn set benefit from a spikes heavy meta if spikes is a soft check to U-turn?
Cuz your opponent is gonna see Genesect and likely switch out of u turn because it gives the you momentum in addition to being really powerful after Stab/Download
Genesect is such a cool Pokemon in the manga.
Genesect is one of my favorite Pokémon
@@giladjacob1771 lol
Actually the move was pretty good. The Genesects awake after a long time, nearly being exstinct they trust no one. When they get into trouble and Mewtu saves them like the good guy he is there leader reacts hostile and basicly tells Mewtu to F*** off and never come near them again. They are drilled to see everything as a threat and when they make there nest in a city and threaten the Humans and more importantly the Pokemon in the City with there terretorial behaviour Mewtu has to step in even if he would prefer to not fight. The action scenes are great, Mewtu is really cool and even if it is illogical that he can go Mega without a trainer its still cool as hell. One of the better movies in my opinion
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Love these guys
I was very alone on this front but when Gen 7 rolled around, I was juuuuust getting into competitive mons and tried to climb the showdown Ubers ladders a few times.
To counteract the maaaaaassively popular Ultra Necrozma, I would almost always run a scarf Genesect solely for it alone. Max special attack max speed modest with bug buzz, ice beam (solely for mega mence checking before it sets up a DD), Thunderbolt and flash cannon.
This set was NOT ground breaking because even modest nature could sometimes fail to 2HKO what it needed, but it was nice and niche enough.
I usually ran it with both primals to be extremely safe it could switch in depending on the mon. Past that I would build different setups.
6:10 thunderus t got mentioned twice
I hope Genesect somehow gets into Sword and Shield. Shift Gear sets could now have any nature thanks to the mints, the power of a Download boosted Steel Beam would be something else, Primal Groudon doesn't exist... it'll certainly have a much better time here than it did in Gen 7.
not really, there is another mega ray in uber, zacian crown, its speed, attack is so excellent. Genesect has neither defensive utility against to zacian crowned or offensive threat like zacian crowned. Giving it dynmax won't save it at all
not really, there is another mega ray in uber, zacian crown, its speed, attack is so excellent. Genesect has neither defensive utility against to zacian crowned or offensive threat like zacian crowned. Giving it dynmax won't save it at all
Hearing Mantine always makes me happy. Great vid FSG
Wow I didn't expect this