This is a genius tip, Kevin, and I can't wait to try it, but . . . it directly contradicts Patrick Mouratoglou's advice, if I'm not mistaken, on using the wrist and the hand like a whip. Hmmm, now I'm confused.
Not contradicting. At contact wrist is comfortably laid back, but it's even further back as you start the forward swing (butt cap points at the ball at this point). At the end of the contact zone, pronating allows for the racquet face to continually point towards the target longer (turning the door knob motion).
Don't think much follow intutive tennis... This is for recreational players... Patrick is guiding someone who has trained for years... He gives an exaggerated example to help kids understand lossesness as concept... Which we might take years to achieve such lossesness
I think Mouratoglou is for the young players who already have the fundamentals: torso rotation, legs, timing, footwork, good racket speed. Low level Rec players tend to use only arm/wrist.
Hey Brendan thanks for the question. I agree with Mouratoglou about the whip like swing. The key is understanding the timing of what is suppose to happen when. Raj is correct that at contact you want the wrist comfortably laid back through contact. Then you let the racquet head continue to pass after contact. This is done through timing, lag and relaxation. Not through actively snapping the wrist through contact. Most so letting the racquet lag by being relaxed to make contact and allowing the racquet to come around after contact. This take tons of practice to get right! Thanks
@@TotalTennisDomination Thanks, Kevin, and yes, when I read Raj’s reply it began to make sense. This whole thing, like life, can be deceptively simple and yet incredibly complex all at the very same time 👍🤞
This is an excellent video and shows the correct use of the wrist. There are so many players that think the wrist is active at impact and it simply isn't. I've seen players who think they should use the windshield wiper action during impact and as indicated in this video the wiper action occurs well after impact and is simply a way to have a smooth follow through. There are a lot of bad RUclips coaches who advocate wrist and wiper action at impact or produce videos that make people think an active wrist is correct. You should work on having a stable (no movement) wrist at impact. You can hit with power by using the k-chain to push up and rotate into contact and you can hit heavy topspin by hitting low to high through contact with a stable wrist.
I agree. It seems to be the minority view that the wrist and forearm are stable up to contact. Watching lots of slow mo videos of professional forehands has led me to believe that the forearm does not move until either right at contact or right after. I will say that Federer's forearm, while warming up, does rotate a tiny bit right before contact. I don't see that in any other player.
Such a great lesson!! For you golfers out there, I followed this same grip-up practice advice from a golf instructor last year and was amazed how much it helped me hit the ball purely and with ease. You know the feeling! Without doing anything - or “trying” not to do something - it simply sets the wrist in the correct position and your body does the rest (it knows to keep the club/racket from hitting your forearm) and you end up with the perfect lag. Practicing this way, you get the right feel so when you move your grip back down, your body knows what to do, or not do. Can’t wait to try it on the court. Thanks for this!
Ahhh yeah!! This is what I have "felt" sometimes when I feel that my forehand is super solid, but I haven't been able to understand why! My friend, this is the WHY! Thank you for your knowledge!!!
Just found your channel. Great lesson. Subscribed. BTW Is that a head radical? Which version? How do you like it? I've about to switch to the Mid Plus version.
Kevin this technique that you showed is truly game changing in coaching. At least in my coaching for sure. This is unimaginable how simple and effective your examples are. In work (specially with younger students) you always strive to make it as simple and as logical to them as possible. But after a while you think that there is no other way anymore how to explain. Then I open your video and wow... I guess Im still an amateur coach. Or you are just brilliant at what you do. Or both :D
MTI have been using this progression for many years on their CPD courses. Ironically many coaches don't like it because they think their players will never slide their grip down!!
It's rare that I come across simple tennis drills that I've never seen before. Testing the wrist action by putting the finger through the frame is a really interesting idea. Thanks!
What i struggle to understand is when we swing forward and upwards the racket lag momentum will push the racket head forward at some point, so its hard to maintain that 90degree angle between forearm and racket at and after contact for me unless i hold back that momentum?
So this guy says no wrist, but Patrick Mouratoglou and the channel RacquetFlex is all about the wrist. Hell, I watched Shapo practice and his coach said, “more wrist, do more with your wrist.” Soooooo 🤨
Thank you, Kevin, for countering this unhelpful myth about the wrist rotation. I have been hampered for years by terms such as, "lag and snap," "brushing up," "rolling over," and "windshield wiper." They made me into a champion shanker! Now I am convinced the elbow, forearm, and wrist are all stable (not moving at all) until right at contact or right after. What looks like a forearm rotation is really the torso rotating, the legs pushing up, and the arm rotating at the shoulder. I think you agree, right? Thanks.
Hey these details are pure gold that when we play know that something is missing and we cant figure out nor our coach speaks about Please do more of those, service backhand foot work prediction of the balls etc
Best video on the forehand. I am able to hit with depth and pace using this method. Plus I can hit way more consistently than trying that brushing up and windshield wiper hack.
I have so much trouble with the forehand 😩 … I’ve played golf for 20 years and it’s so difficult not to roll the wrists over. Gonna get on the ball machine tomorrow with these drills 👌🏻
World class video bro. Actually helped me in a way that coaches couldnt. This just made me feel going to a court to put it into practice ASAP. Keep it up!
The problem I have with abduction my index finger on my semi-western grip is that I get bad calluses at the base of the proximal phalange so I wrap it like many other players. I feel more comfortable with a hammer grip. I find I use more shoulder internal rotation and less forearm pronation when I hold it like this so I end up using more of my larger muscle groups and less forearm muscles. So my wrist ends up being more relaxed and passive through contact. Up to a point I think we need to adjust for our own anatomic differences and preferences too.
that's actually the opposite to what Patrick Mouratoglu teaches. He actually says the whip of the wrist is what gives the extra power together with the weight transfer
"So there's a forehand, and when it comes to the forehand, there are three things you want to do. Let's start with the first. Now on the first thing, there are two things you want to focus on. Starting with the first, I want you to keep three things in mind..."
Great explanation Kevin and I love the exercise with the hand higher up and the warning to not let the grip touch your hitting arm. Such an important exercise for all players I guess to factcheck their swing
I can't wait to try this tonight on my ball machine. I am too wristy and inconsistent, the simple mechanics look easier to replicate. Do you have a video on how tips to consistently aim the ball corner to corner?
This is the best video on the tennis forehand I’ve ever watched.
You KILLED IT again, Kevin!! You might just be one of the best tennis instructors of your generation!
I'm looking forward to implementing. Thanks for the video
My 8 year old daughter has been learning tennis for months and she is struggle with forehand. I will try this out with her
This is a genius tip, Kevin, and I can't wait to try it, but . . . it directly contradicts Patrick Mouratoglou's advice, if I'm not mistaken, on using the wrist and the hand like a whip. Hmmm, now I'm confused.
Not contradicting. At contact wrist is comfortably laid back, but it's even further back as you start the forward swing (butt cap points at the ball at this point). At the end of the contact zone, pronating allows for the racquet face to continually point towards the target longer (turning the door knob motion).
Don't think much follow intutive tennis... This is for recreational players... Patrick is guiding someone who has trained for years... He gives an exaggerated example to help kids understand lossesness as concept... Which we might take years to achieve such lossesness
I think Mouratoglou is for the young players who already have the fundamentals: torso rotation, legs, timing, footwork, good racket speed. Low level Rec players tend to use only arm/wrist.
Hey Brendan thanks for the question. I agree with Mouratoglou about the whip like swing. The key is understanding the timing of what is suppose to happen when. Raj is correct that at contact you want the wrist comfortably laid back through contact. Then you let the racquet head continue to pass after contact. This is done through timing, lag and relaxation. Not through actively snapping the wrist through contact. Most so letting the racquet lag by being relaxed to make contact and allowing the racquet to come around after contact. This take tons of practice to get right! Thanks
@@TotalTennisDomination Thanks, Kevin, and yes, when I read Raj’s reply it began to make sense. This whole thing, like life, can be deceptively simple and yet incredibly complex all at the very same time 👍🤞
This is an excellent video and shows the correct use of the wrist. There are so many players that think the wrist is active at impact and it simply isn't. I've seen players who think they should use the windshield wiper action during impact and as indicated in this video the wiper action occurs well after impact and is simply a way to have a smooth follow through. There are a lot of bad RUclips coaches who advocate wrist and wiper action at impact or produce videos that make people think an active wrist is correct. You should work on having a stable (no movement) wrist at impact. You can hit with power by using the k-chain to push up and rotate into contact and you can hit heavy topspin by hitting low to high through contact with a stable wrist.
I agree. It seems to be the minority view that the wrist and forearm are stable up to contact. Watching lots of slow mo videos of professional forehands has led me to believe that the forearm does not move until either right at contact or right after. I will say that Federer's forearm, while warming up, does rotate a tiny bit right before contact. I don't see that in any other player.
Great tip man
Oh my gosh this is a good lesson. Wow. This has totally changed how I am thinking about the grip, and I've been playing for decades. Thank you!
Such a great lesson!! For you golfers out there, I followed this same grip-up practice advice from a golf instructor last year and was amazed how much it helped me hit the ball purely and with ease. You know the feeling! Without doing anything - or “trying” not to do something - it simply sets the wrist in the correct position and your body does the rest (it knows to keep the club/racket from hitting your forearm) and you end up with the perfect lag. Practicing this way, you get the right feel so when you move your grip back down, your body knows what to do, or not do. Can’t wait to try it on the court. Thanks for this!
Ahhh yeah!! This is what I have "felt" sometimes when I feel that my forehand is super solid, but I haven't been able to understand why! My friend, this is the WHY! Thank you for your knowledge!!!
too good thanks
Just found your channel. Great lesson. Subscribed. BTW Is that a head radical? Which version? How do you like it? I've about to switch to the Mid Plus version.
I always enjoy your tips. You have a very straight forward teaching style , thank you.
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This is the video I have been looking for ...YEARS THANKYOU Kevin!
Kevin this technique that you showed is truly game changing in coaching. At least in my coaching for sure. This is unimaginable how simple and effective your examples are. In work (specially with younger students) you always strive to make it as simple and as logical to them as possible. But after a while you think that there is no other way anymore how to explain. Then I open your video and wow... I guess Im still an amateur coach. Or you are just brilliant at what you do. Or both :D
Dude, that's a great way of stabilizing the wrist
MTI have been using this progression for many years on their CPD courses. Ironically many coaches don't like it because they think their players will never slide their grip down!!
It's rare that I come across simple tennis drills that I've never seen before. Testing the wrist action by putting the finger through the frame is a really interesting idea. Thanks!
Glad this is a new drill to you. Thanks for watching!
This is a GREAT VIDEO. 1 of 1!!! Thanks Coach!!!!
Kevin I’m a coach In London I love your videos as you talk like tennis doesn’t have to be too technical!!! You’re a diamond
i swear to god i thought the tennis ball in your pocket was something else. i was like godDAMN what the HELL man ur BLESSED
I developed a kind of tennis yips and erratic forehand because after the lag I wasn't keeping my wrist firm but letting it flop through the hit.
What i struggle to understand is when we swing forward and upwards the racket lag momentum will push the racket head forward at some point, so its hard to maintain that 90degree angle between forearm and racket at and after contact for me unless i hold back that momentum?
Nice guy but 5 minutes of jibberish... then finally. But so wordy!
This is spot on, thanks for the straight forward, no bs explanation.
Thanks Motoragan
This is amazing tips, I am going to try and implement changes
But feels amazing while trying at home
This is super important to avoid wrist injuries as well.
Great video.
So insightful. this instructor is a total tennis bodhisattva.
So there is a “rolling through contact” - can I assume that this not something I should try to make happen?
Only time,rest and reflection can fix a bad forehead. Ask coco.
That finger in the racquet throat is amazing tip 👍🙏🙏🙏
So this guy says no wrist, but Patrick Mouratoglou and the channel RacquetFlex is all about the wrist. Hell, I watched Shapo practice and his coach said, “more wrist, do more with your wrist.” Soooooo 🤨
For me personally, your channel and feel tennis instruction are really into something. Thank you Kevin. Keep pushin'. :)
~Mati
Awesome, thank you! I think Tomaz really does a excellent job.
thanks so much for your video love from france
Thank you, Kevin, for countering this unhelpful myth about the wrist rotation. I have been hampered for years by terms such as, "lag and snap," "brushing up," "rolling over," and "windshield wiper." They made me into a champion shanker! Now I am convinced the elbow, forearm, and wrist are all stable (not moving at all) until right at contact or right after. What looks like a forearm rotation is really the torso rotating, the legs pushing up, and the arm rotating at the shoulder. I think you agree, right? Thanks.
Very good video. Thanks for your guide
Your palm is orange - did you eat a bunch of cheetos? LOL
what strings do you play on your radical ??
Only and Best video covering this nuisance of grip. Perfect exactly what I was looking for…. Great COACH and great video!!!
Thank you very important points❤
Perfect explanation, sir!
I've just subscribed.
A huge from Barcelona!
Hey these details are pure gold that when we play know that something is missing and we cant figure out nor our coach speaks about
Please do more of those, service backhand foot work prediction of the balls etc
This is a GREAT video. There's a famous coach whose initials are P.M. who teaches his students to just let the wrist go which is fundamentally wrong.
Best video on the forehand. I am able to hit with depth and pace using this method. Plus I can hit way more consistently than trying that brushing up and windshield wiper hack.
That’s brilliant. Thank you
Yes it is! Perfect video for me right now.
Great video and will hopefully improve my consistency. You could perhaps consider slowing your instruction down a little. Thanks.
I think I do all of the mentioned errors.
I use the door knob wrist technique.
I have so much trouble with the forehand 😩 … I’ve played golf for 20 years and it’s so difficult not to roll the wrists over.
Gonna get on the ball machine tomorrow with these drills 👌🏻
Amazing explanation! thanks very much, having been looking for videos to fix my bad forehand! you helped a lot
If you look at Federer, he does open his wrist before hitting the ball. Not exactly what you're showing here
Additional tip… always watch your ball, especially when you make contact.
Kevin, where do you teach??
World class video bro. Actually helped me in a way that coaches couldnt. This just made me feel going to a court to put it into practice ASAP. Keep it up!
Intermediate now, but after watching this video, I’m going to be a professional player 😄.
The problem I have with abduction my index finger on my semi-western grip is that I get bad calluses at the base of the proximal phalange so I wrap it like many other players. I feel more comfortable with a hammer grip. I find I use more shoulder internal rotation and less forearm pronation when I hold it like this so I end up using more of my larger muscle groups and less forearm muscles. So my wrist ends up being more relaxed and passive through contact. Up to a point I think we need to adjust for our own anatomic differences and preferences too.
Serena’s coach Patrick should watch this. Maybe 10 times so he can stop telling kids to use wrist and hand to generate power.
Very nice practice technique using the throat of the racquet! I will myself and with my kids!
Nice explanation and good technique to check if we are using the wrist.
Will try it out. Thanks
Absolutely brilliant! So helpful and easy to repeat by myself on the court. Thank you sou much! Big fan
that's actually the opposite to what Patrick Mouratoglu teaches. He actually says the whip of the wrist is what gives the extra power together with the weight transfer
Obviously snapping the wrist without bringing the shoulder through is useless, but who does that?
"So there's a forehand, and when it comes to the forehand, there are three things you want to do. Let's start with the first. Now on the first thing, there are two things you want to focus on. Starting with the first, I want you to keep three things in mind..."
Thanks for the "Index finger in the racquet neck" tip! It helped.
Damn.... now I really understand what's my fault... many many tks
Thanks for the drill, it helps me to really understand what I'm doing right now is wrong.
Thanks as always Kevin, learning from this to be a better recreational tennis player thnaks heaps 👏👍
Great explanation Kevin and I love the exercise with the hand higher up and the warning to not let the grip touch your hitting arm. Such an important exercise for all players I guess to factcheck their swing
This is good! I like this. I think spreading the fingers is one of the least used things ever 🤣 Solid work
This is by far the best video to illustrate the forehand. You are amazing.
excellent explanations and guidance, thank you.
Hi there! What type of string do you use on head radical ?
The best information ever!!
Thank you Kevin!
Great points, thanks 👍
“That” muscle’s great when your on the run and need to thread a winner 😅
Interesting tip! Probably a great reminder for in between points too.
thank you that is most informative video I have ever seen on the forehand
You are awesome i think thats the reason why i m hurting my wrist
Yay 😁
you are fantastic
you are the BESTTTTTTT
Super helpful! Amazing
Great video Kevin, thanks!
Great video. Thank you.
Really good drill!
thank you for the tips, it is so plausible
Such a talented tennis instructor! Nice video!
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Just GREAT
Thank you for good advice
Amazing tip!! Many thanks!
I can't wait to try this tonight on my ball machine. I am too wristy and inconsistent, the simple mechanics look easier to replicate. Do you have a video on how tips to consistently aim the ball corner to corner?
Thanks make sure you check out this video ruclips.net/video/vXkUoQyEk18/видео.html
Super clear
Another excellent video Kevin
best tut like always , thanks
Smart
Excellent video!
Great tips and video Kevin
Great lesson, thanks!