Here is a more in depth explanation of this highly controversial concept, I provided proof with examples of pro players. Multiple tennis RUclipsrs ganged up on me for making this video, and this is my response: ruclips.net/video/WZ5S6DZAjSs/видео.htmlfeature=shared
There's nothing controversial about playing topspin ground-strokes - physics dictates that you must swing low to high through contact - get yourself educated - The Physics and Technology of Tennis by Howard Brody (3 expert contributors) You're not even a proper coach ..
@@vincentsimoneofficial Lol! .. check your comment reviews - not everyone is fooled by your poor teaching and obvious click-bait titles that you use. You don't understand the basic principles of tennis - you're not even a proper coach - what qualifications do you have? You've never played tennis professionally or competed on the ATP tour. Anyone with coaching qualifications can see that you're a complete novice with no teaching experience whatsoever - even people in the comments section have noticed that you contradict yourself and are calling you out on your tennis knowledge and poor teaching. You can't even speak properly!
@@vincentsimoneofficial thank you for improving my forehand and obh. Your tips really work for me even my friend said my groundstrokes are looking very good with a lot of spin. Ignore the haters. Cheers
I ve been playing tennis and trying to improve by studying clips from youtube for almost 10 years now. There are so many theories out there and many of them contradict with one another. Your lessons are by far the most accurate, in term of swing mechanics, since they actually improved many of my strokes. Great job and thank you!
He is teaching an all arm forehand where the arm pushes through the hitting zone. The rotation of the body leading with your strong leg to your strong side hip should be forward force of the forehand allowing you to not only use your full body weight behind the ball but it also allows the high velocity snap rotational force(such as unwinding a twisted rubber band) to generate power on the ball. High speed rotational movement with mass of the body will give one a much more powerful forehand than a stroke with just arm mass.
@@michaelm1105 He is teaching getting under the ball with your legs. That is not teaching "an all arm forehand". Just the opposite. If you Get under the ball with your legs and lift thru contact you will be using your whole body.
@@Better_Call_Raul he is teaching moving the arm parallel to the ground to get pop on the ball. That is ok however one will have only mass of the arm behind the ball. I’d rather have the mass of my entire body weight in a high rotational velocity putting the force behind the ball. When the arm rotates through the hitting zone while connected to the rotational force of the body you’ll have a lot more power than the arm out front alone like he demonstrates.
Bending your legs or rather knees is the mantra for any racquet sport. Thanks for reminding us to use our legs to generate power in our tennis strokes. I thought the distinction between lowering ones racquet vs lowering one’s body was brilliant. Thank you!
The disadvantage of a slow motion clip is that it would show slight arm movement from low to high, as well as bigger racket head movement from low to high proving him wrong
It's still low to high, but just at a different degrees. You're right in that it doesn't need to be as extreme as some are being taught but watch any slow motion video of the big 3 and you'll see wrist is about waist level and finishes around the shoulder. What you're teaching is what we call, flattening out the stroke or hitting through the ball more. It still in essence is low to high.
Communication techniques are key to understanding concepts. Most people parrot mainstream terminologies that can be unclear and ineffective. Vincent's approach is clear, simple, and comprehensible.
@@naji465 .. but he says don't swing low to high, which is demonstrably false - all professional tennis players swing the racquet below the height of the incoming ball to play topspin.
The main thing to take away is to get low and dont end your stroke at right next to your ear like how a lot of beginner instructors teach. Swing through the ball is the key
Hearing this I feel taken for a fool. Of course we don't play with straight legs...it's quite natural to go down on my knees, as well as adusting hand and body to incoming ball height. And anybody can choose the way to follow through, more flat or not, over or under the opposite shoulder. Of course begginners are often taught to wipe over the shoulder because it adds margin over the net, especially if you don't push enough body weight through the ball. I hate all those controversial titles just made to add views on YT accounts.
First time I have seen you and this video. I LOVE the fact you are intelligent enough to speak slowly and clearly with a SIMPLE explanation-so refreshing to see this after too much talking from many other coaches as well as not always clear. I’ll definitley look at your other videos. The first person also in my experience to demonstrate this crucial action on the forehand. Thank you!
Nah... Questionable stuff. Misleading for a beginner. I mean, _just look at your own strokes_ in the beginning of the video, and the swingpath / path of your racket head on those. Fully contrary to what you claim at 3:18. To further confirm how the swingpaths tend to look like, anyone can go and look at a number of videos of pros hitting on RUclips. The problem is that at 3:18 you go OTT with how the swingpath supposedly should be. Nearly horizontal. A beginner will wonder why it's so hard to keep the ball in play. You might see this maybe on occasion on a flattened more attacking ball. Which leads to a final point of: it depends on the situation. Are you hitting a more attacking or a more defensive ball given the spot you're in... How much margin do you want to put on the ball... Are you trying to hit through the court or use an angle... The height of the incoming ball... Etc.
Fully agree. Also he mentions using the legs to create topspin, but most Pros are very stable at contact; yes they get below the ball, but rotate on a fairly flat plane. Rublev is a prime example. In a recent video this same instructor told us not to extend up with the legs in the backhand, ‘stay sitting in the chair’. Not sure who is more confused, us or him!
The best explanation ever. The best explanation. I think many of you are talking without having ever played tennis... or your level is very low. Always hitting forward and in the front of your body with a relaxed wrist creating racket head acceleration.
I've been playing tennis for 20 years and just realized this watching pros play in close distance recently. It's great to bumped into your video and confirmed what I learn from watching pros. Great point!
As a former Pro and WTA/ATP coach, while this is generally correct, you will find the arm actually does go from low to high in varying amounts and the follow through is generally extended down the court before it goes across the body ... cheers
Similar credentials and agree with your comments. I actually enjoyed the video and it has a lot of merit coming from a serve volleyer that had a solid backhand but a very weak forehand. Backhand i could do anything with, i was flatter through contact but tye bloody forehand had a mind of its own and brushed it to much. Any way there are things a amateur player can take away from this.
your videos are by far the most accurate as far as technique and progression...while every other coach is always trying to get people to copy the pros which is wrong for a beginner, you make it simple and it works...my game has improved from 3.5 to 4.0 in a matter of months..thank you...
This is good info. I'd say that the swing path is a little low too high, but for the most part, this is spot on. I've always thought that teaching a player to brush the ball from the baseline was misguided.
Good point. Reminds me of what really good tennis coach told me back in the 80ies. The swing path was different back then but the other fundamentals were the same.
True. LOL. The title is click bait. Also, low to high is the best way to learn topspin. Even waiting for the ball with your wrist below your knees is how I was taught.
his point is that you don't need to use your arms to consciously swing up through the ball to get topspin --the topspin is auto-generated by simply extending your legs up during the stroke. K.I.S.S. Keep it simple St**pidgin principle.
HI YOU ARE ONE OF MY TOP 3 TENNSI PRO TEACHERS ONLINE! AND YOU DO HAVE THE MOST CALM-KING EVEN CALMING VOICE OF CHOICE! AND I HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU! YOU TELL THE TRUTH!! AND YOU LOVE-FIRMED WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WITH OUT ANY LESSON BUT HEARING TONS OF TENNIS PROS AND TEACHERS SAY WHAT I THOUGHT WAS ZERO COMMON SENSE! MY INTUITION WAS RIGHT ON THE FOREHAND I NEVER EVER BOUGHT THAT BRUSH THE BALL BULL SHIT I JUST DIDNOT HAVE ANY COMMON SENSE! I HOPE ONE DAY I GET TO MEET YOU AND HANG OUT WITH YOU!! AND GET TO HIT WITH YOU!!
I've learned this by using a pure drive that added a LOT of power to my swing. Doing low to high movement with the arm did not add enough topspin to keep the ball in the court. Only by loading my legs and exploding up was I able to get the necessary topspin. This is particular evident when going for a forehand down the line after receiving a heavy cross court shot, it is almost impossible to redirect the ball with arm alone.
Great video, thank you for expaining this. I really struggle with my forehand being more 'brushing' and having no pop sound on the strike. Definetly when I watch pro players on TV it seems like they move the racket low to high. I wish you added actual video of you and pro players in slow mo to demonstrate their swing path. Thank you
.. don't listen to this dude - he doesn't know what he's talking about - go check the many other tennis channels on RUclips that are far better with qualified and experienced coaches.
Hello, your video will save my life in tennis. Since I’ve leaned that to create top spins I should have moved my racket from lower to higher, actually I’ve lost all my powerful forehand. I was struggling to understand what was wrong, today I’ve found the answer in your video, I’ll come back to you once I would applied what you recommend, Thank you 🙏
I hit my hardest forehand using the technique you described. I bent my knees enough and swung almost straight through the ball with an eastern forehand.
I think his point is, high level players (I'm not one btw!) don't think "low to high". After the take back they let the racket drop/float ("pat the dog") and the wrist and arm go loose. They bend their knees, track the ball and then unleash, but it is the upward power from the legs, the uncoiling of the body and the loose arm and wrist that creates the low to high path of the racket head and windshield follow through, they don't consciously do this. If you obsess over about "low to high" and getting a windshield follow through you will try too hard to control your arm and wrist, and arm the ball with low racket head speed. There's definitely something to what this guy is saying and while controversial maybe, this is pretty insightful stuff that I've not heard before. Keep up the interesting work Vincent!
Don't be fooled. His swing path is absolutely low to high. not flat. not high to low. The two main points you CAN take away from this is ... 1 - start really low - bend your knees to explode up / through the ball and 2 - use more wrist / windshield wiper motion to get that extra topspin.
you mean brushing the ball? it is good but when you hit it hard it's risky cuz it's so close to the net this way is high and powerful with heavy topspin
DO NOT use the wrist for topsin. The pros use forearm rotation instead. That produces the windshield wiper. Your wrist must be kept stable and slightly bent backward throughout the hitting zone.
I didn't know that, so I'm glad I found this video. But there is something else no one ever talks about, and that is using your elbow to whip the forehand. It requires very little motion and supplies a huge amount of leverage. I know some teachers say to use the largest muscles, and rotate with your shoulder, not your wrist. They often don't even mention the elbow. If you cock your wrist with the head of the racquet pointing up, you can knock the crap out of the ball just by moving your elbow. Less motion = more accuracy. The power comes from your forearm muscles, and mine are very strong, so this works for me. I guess another way to put it is to say one should hit a forehand like they hit a serve. The most movement on a serve is from the elbow, and that is why you can hit the ball 200 kmh (well, some can). I'm not that great, so take my advice with a grain of salt. I haven't had enough experience to get really good, but I can KILL my forehand using my method. I also have a very hard serve, which comes from using a lot of wrist and elbow. I get the topspin by jumping up into the ball, yielding a high bounce to the opponent's backhand side, which is something almost nobody returns well.
i agree because i encountered it, but in addition to that just imagine the angle of the net, the hitting ball and the racket face with your stroke, i'm a beginner but it is absolutely effective, i must not share these because starting today I want to be an undefeated player everyday and every competition
Tremendous teaching skills from this smart young man, wow. Aside from being correct, he is concise and clear, unlike all other long-winded online tennis instructors.
Good breakdown. I feel like 'low to high' is a saying from the 70s/80s. I feel like 4.0 and below just don't get the legs aspect of things. You see the same mistakes over and over again. Anyway, I find to create more top, besides what you said, just opening the face a hair more is all you need to do. Like you said, the bulk of the swing is from the legs/hips/core and the arm if loose...just comes along for the ride.
The point is that you should lower your body and not just your hand. If you focus on just your hand going below the ball, then you might be dropping your shoulder and leaning over instead of just bending your legs to get under the ball. He saying at that point once your body is under the ball by bending your legs, then you will have to have to hit low to high. So that point it’s better to hit through the ball. That way you have spin and penetrate the court. I am guilty of using my hand and arm only. Produces tons of spin but no real weight behind the ball.
This is a great reminder for even higher level players. Every once in a while, I find myself swinging too much low to high and not through the ball on my topspin forehand and when I do, I always play worse. I've noticed this will happen the most when mentally under pressure in a tight match.
There are so many different balls which ball are you talking about and or what is the objective deep or short and what exactly does the legs do to the ball?
Nice video. Fully agree. Point is that body is much more invested in every shot. It is not the arm motion, it is not the wrist motion, it is whole body motion in each stroke.
Thank you for your videos!! Keep doing them, please. This kind of information is priceless and It's well explained. You are doing excellent with your channel! Consistency is required to succeed and I know you'll keep improving every aspect of your videos. Greetings from Colombia! (with "o", not "u")
Actually tried this technique of hitting across the body. He described it in a different video as hitting an imaginary c in front of you. Well the balls I hit this way seems more powerful and penetrating the court . He is on to something here
Nadal and Federer swing low to high big time. Extremely low racquet drops like theirs aren’t what I’d teach, but most topspin comes from low to high as contact is being made. The follow through is a result. Federer doesn’t have a high follow through even though he has a low to high swing.
@@DeltoidBeast It is pretty close to impossible to generate topspin and get the ball over the net without a low to high swing path. Topspin comes from the direction the racquet face is moving relative to the angle of the racquet face. A flat swing with a flat face will put the ball in the net. A flat swing with the face slightly closed will hit ball lower into the net. You have to swing low to high to get the ball over the net with a topspin groundstroke. A truly flat groundstroke hit 80 mph with no topspin drops nearly 2.5 feet by the time it reaches the net so unless the ball is over your head you have to swing low to high to get it over the net with topspin.
@@marktace1 Point is that low to high comes from the body, not the arm or the wrist. To have power on your shots you need penetration, to go through the ball. Grip and angle of your racket generate spin, but you need to do it as fast as possible, to have the greatest possible racket head speed, and for that you need strong, linear movement with your arm, to invest body into the shot as much as possible.
@@DeltoidBeast Nice concept but reality as is quite obvious from side on video is that topspin comes mostly from the low to high hand path and that there is a very limited contribution from the legs. The legs provide power but trying to use the legs to create topspin tends to lead to errors and doesn’t create much topspin. Look at side on slow motion of forehands and you’ll see that the players waists tend to be fixed in height through contact while the hand is going low to high. Yes, more racquet head speed creates more topspin but that is because it enables the hand to move faster along the low to high path.
@@marktace1 that low to high what you mean is nothing more than most powerful way to swing racket. There is a lot of body involment, legs. Arm is just final link. Point is if you try to swing racket intentionaly from low to high there is no power like that, or true top spin. Top spin comes naturally as product of powerful swinging through the ball. Look at strokes of guy from the video. He has excellent strokes and knows what he is talking about. What you are saying is amateur technique. I tried this myself, and it works.
Hello Vincent, Could you make a video for top-spin rallies from the service line? As a warm-up routine, I do the rally with my friends every 10 minutes before the baseline rally is started.
So... I've just watched the guys on OTI and he says the low to high body movement is also innaccurate! Which I personally agree with. None of you ("coaches" including the 4-5 different ones I've had over the years)) are explaining this. That while yes, you want bent knees for spring, but mainly to enable the transfer of weight starting on the back foot, then twisting through the kinetic chain twisting forward to the front foot or even jumping off the feet. Many of the times by the time the pro player hits the ball they're not low at all, they're springing forward from the weight balance transfer. It would be great if you would complete the advice in your video to explain this please. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
It’s not a majority forearm pronation. It’s shoulder rotation that creates the windshield wiper and the forearm merely finishes it. Go watch some Alcaraz, Del Potro or Federer bombs and you will see the immense shoulder rotation, just like on huge servers like Sampras, Roddick and Shelton. You are right that beginners are often too vertical in their swing, but pros go low to high through the ball (in height) about the width of the racquet head.
Your instruction applies exclusively to the shots from baseline and high short balls. LOW to HIGH racket motion is absolutely essential in short balls below net level.
Here is a more in depth explanation of this highly controversial concept, I provided proof with examples of pro players. Multiple tennis RUclipsrs ganged up on me for making this video, and this is my response: ruclips.net/video/WZ5S6DZAjSs/видео.htmlfeature=shared
There's nothing controversial about playing topspin ground-strokes - physics dictates that you must swing low to high through contact - get yourself educated - The Physics and Technology of Tennis by Howard Brody (3 expert contributors)
You're not even a proper coach ..
@@Chris_Sheridan there’s nothing good about your forehand
@@vincentsimoneofficial Lol! .. check your comment reviews - not everyone is fooled by your poor teaching and obvious click-bait titles that you use.
You don't understand the basic principles of tennis - you're not even a proper coach - what qualifications do you have?
You've never played tennis professionally or competed on the ATP tour.
Anyone with coaching qualifications can see that you're a complete novice with no teaching experience whatsoever - even people in the comments section have noticed that you contradict yourself and are calling you out on your tennis knowledge and poor teaching. You can't even speak properly!
Tennis Doctor? .. what a joke!
@@vincentsimoneofficial thank you for improving my forehand and obh. Your tips really work for me even my friend said my groundstrokes are looking very good with a lot of spin. Ignore the haters. Cheers
I ve been playing tennis and trying to improve by studying clips from youtube for almost 10 years now. There are so many theories out there and many of them contradict with one another. Your lessons are by far the most accurate, in term of swing mechanics, since they actually improved many of my strokes. Great job and thank you!
He is teaching an all arm forehand where the arm pushes through the hitting zone. The rotation of the body leading with your strong leg to your strong side hip should be forward force of the forehand allowing you to not only use your full body weight behind the ball but it also allows the high velocity snap rotational force(such as unwinding a twisted rubber band) to generate power on the ball. High speed rotational movement with mass of the body will give one a much more powerful forehand than a stroke with just arm mass.
@@michaelm1105 My forehand has changed and improved dramatically after many years of trial and error with many other methods.
@@michaelm1105 He is teaching getting under the ball with your legs. That is not teaching "an all arm forehand". Just the opposite. If you Get under the ball with your legs and lift thru contact you will be using your whole body.
@@Better_Call_Raul he is teaching moving the arm parallel to the ground to get pop on the ball. That is ok however one will have only mass of the arm behind the ball. I’d rather have the mass of my entire body weight in a high rotational velocity putting the force behind the ball. When the arm rotates through the hitting zone while connected to the rotational force of the body you’ll have a lot more power than the arm out front alone like he demonstrates.
None are incorrect use them all still gotta use the body. He still gotta pick that ball up through the stroke power comes through the torso.
Bending your legs or rather knees is the mantra for any racquet sport. Thanks for reminding us to use our legs to generate power in our tennis strokes. I thought the distinction between lowering ones racquet vs lowering one’s body was brilliant. Thank you!
Perfect explanation of the right technique. what would be great to see is SLOW motion of the forehand or backhand.
Use can adjust the speed yourself in RUclips. Select the gear icon on the video.
The disadvantage of a slow motion clip is that it would show slight arm movement from low to high, as well as bigger racket head movement from low to high proving him wrong
It's still low to high, but just at a different degrees. You're right in that it doesn't need to be as extreme as some are being taught but watch any slow motion video of the big 3 and you'll see wrist is about waist level and finishes around the shoulder. What you're teaching is what we call, flattening out the stroke or hitting through the ball more. It still in essence is low to high.
Agree
Communication techniques are key to understanding concepts. Most people parrot mainstream terminologies that can be unclear and ineffective. Vincent's approach is clear, simple, and comprehensible.
@@naji465 .. but he says don't swing low to high, which is demonstrably false - all professional tennis players swing the racquet below the height of the incoming ball to play topspin.
The main thing to take away is to get low and dont end your stroke at right next to your ear like how a lot of beginner instructors teach. Swing through the ball is the key
Hearing this I feel taken for a fool. Of course we don't play with straight legs...it's quite natural to go down on my knees, as well as adusting hand and body to incoming ball height.
And anybody can choose the way to follow through, more flat or not, over or under the opposite shoulder.
Of course begginners are often taught to wipe over the shoulder because it adds margin over the net, especially if you don't push enough body weight through the ball.
I hate all those controversial titles just made to add views on YT accounts.
First time I have seen you and this video. I LOVE the fact you are intelligent enough to speak slowly and clearly with a SIMPLE explanation-so refreshing to see this after too much talking from many other coaches as well as not always clear. I’ll definitley look at your other videos. The first person also in my experience to demonstrate this crucial action on the forehand. Thank you!
You obviously haven't checked the many other tennis channels on RUclips that are far better than this guy ..
Nah... Questionable stuff. Misleading for a beginner. I mean, _just look at your own strokes_ in the beginning of the video, and the swingpath / path of your racket head on those. Fully contrary to what you claim at 3:18. To further confirm how the swingpaths tend to look like, anyone can go and look at a number of videos of pros hitting on RUclips. The problem is that at 3:18 you go OTT with how the swingpath supposedly should be. Nearly horizontal. A beginner will wonder why it's so hard to keep the ball in play. You might see this maybe on occasion on a flattened more attacking ball. Which leads to a final point of: it depends on the situation. Are you hitting a more attacking or a more defensive ball given the spot you're in... How much margin do you want to put on the ball... Are you trying to hit through the court or use an angle... The height of the incoming ball... Etc.
Fully agree. Also he mentions using the legs to create topspin, but most Pros are very stable at contact; yes they get below the ball, but rotate on a fairly flat plane. Rublev is a prime example. In a recent video this same instructor told us not to extend up with the legs in the backhand, ‘stay sitting in the chair’. Not sure who is more confused, us or him!
I think he is trying emphasize hitting the ball flat with more power than topspin.
The best explanation ever.
The best explanation. I think many of you are talking without having ever played tennis... or your level is very low. Always hitting forward and in the front of your body with a relaxed wrist creating racket head acceleration.
I've been playing tennis for 20 years and just realized this watching pros play in close distance recently. It's great to bumped into your video and confirmed what I learn from watching pros. Great point!
As a former Pro and WTA/ATP coach, while this is generally correct, you will find the arm actually does go from low to high in varying amounts and the follow through is generally extended down the court before it goes across the body ... cheers
Similar credentials and agree with your comments. I actually enjoyed the video and it has a lot of merit coming from a serve volleyer that had a solid backhand but a very weak forehand. Backhand i could do anything with, i was flatter through contact but tye bloody forehand had a mind of its own and brushed it to much. Any way there are things a amateur player can take away from this.
your videos are by far the most accurate as far as technique and progression...while every other coach is always trying to get people to copy the pros which is wrong for a beginner, you make it simple and it works...my game has improved from 3.5 to 4.0 in a matter of months..thank you...
Very valuable insight into the topspin forehand mechanics, and the calm explanation is very enjoyable to listen to.
This is good info. I'd say that the swing path is a little low too high, but for the most part, this is spot on. I've always thought that teaching a player to brush the ball from the baseline was misguided.
Good point. Reminds me of what really good tennis coach told me back in the 80ies. The swing path was different back then but the other fundamentals were the same.
I still saw nothing but low to high for your forehand swings of racquet, contradict to your title.
True. LOL. The title is click bait. Also, low to high is the best way to learn topspin. Even waiting for the ball with your wrist below your knees is how I was taught.
@@sanekabc Nadal shows excellent low to high moves. This so called tennis instructor of this video is making a fool himself, not trustable!
@@strongbrain3128ruclips.net/video/350Ewfe09i0/видео.htmlsi=y1JPzdHJD3RZPlGE
I would like to point you to 3:43 in the video.
his point is that you don't need to use your arms to consciously swing up through the ball to get topspin --the topspin is auto-generated by simply extending your legs up during the stroke. K.I.S.S. Keep it simple St**pidgin principle.
HI YOU ARE ONE OF MY TOP 3 TENNSI PRO TEACHERS ONLINE! AND YOU DO HAVE THE MOST CALM-KING EVEN CALMING VOICE OF CHOICE! AND I HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU! YOU TELL THE TRUTH!! AND YOU LOVE-FIRMED WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WITH OUT ANY LESSON BUT HEARING TONS OF TENNIS PROS AND TEACHERS SAY WHAT I THOUGHT WAS ZERO COMMON SENSE! MY INTUITION WAS RIGHT ON THE FOREHAND I NEVER EVER BOUGHT THAT BRUSH THE BALL BULL SHIT I JUST DIDNOT HAVE ANY COMMON SENSE! I HOPE ONE DAY I GET TO MEET YOU AND HANG OUT WITH YOU!! AND GET TO HIT WITH YOU!!
I've learned this by using a pure drive that added a LOT of power to my swing. Doing low to high movement with the arm did not add enough topspin to keep the ball in the court. Only by loading my legs and exploding up was I able to get the necessary topspin. This is particular evident when going for a forehand down the line after receiving a heavy cross court shot, it is almost impossible to redirect the ball with arm alone.
Pure Drive Roddick hits a heavy ball
Thank you Vincent. I’ve been playing tennis for 25 years and this is one of the most important tips ever!
Great video, thank you for expaining this. I really struggle with my forehand being more 'brushing' and having no pop sound on the strike. Definetly when I watch pro players on TV it seems like they move the racket low to high.
I wish you added actual video of you and pro players in slow mo to demonstrate their swing path.
Thank you
.. don't listen to this dude - he doesn't know what he's talking about - go check the many other tennis channels on RUclips that are far better with qualified and experienced coaches.
I have been struggling with this for a long time. This makes perfect sense to me. Thank you
this guy is great, explaining calmly and understandable. 100% thumb up !
This is why I love U Tube videos on tennis strokes! I was big on low to high swing. I bet more power will be noticed with your video lesson. Tnx.
Hello, your video will save my life in tennis. Since I’ve leaned that to create top spins I should have moved my racket from lower to higher, actually I’ve lost all my powerful forehand. I was struggling to understand what was wrong, today I’ve found the answer in your video, I’ll come back to you once I would applied what you recommend, Thank you 🙏
Literally born to coach, amazing ability to convey complex techniques.
Awesome point about the legs. Unfortunately old skool coaches focus too much on the racket rather than the body
You are a very good teacher! That was a very good description of how to do a good follow through. I have learned something today.
This is pretty good. People keep telling me rackets need to be low, but I have been struggle with to let the racket drop low yet not use wrist.
I hit my hardest forehand using the technique you described. I bent my knees enough and swung almost straight through the ball with an eastern forehand.
I think his point is, high level players (I'm not one btw!) don't think "low to high". After the take back they let the racket drop/float ("pat the dog") and the wrist and arm go loose. They bend their knees, track the ball and then unleash, but it is the upward power from the legs, the uncoiling of the body and the loose arm and wrist that creates the low to high path of the racket head and windshield follow through, they don't consciously do this.
If you obsess over about "low to high" and getting a windshield follow through you will try too hard to control your arm and wrist, and arm the ball with low racket head speed.
There's definitely something to what this guy is saying and while controversial maybe, this is pretty insightful stuff that I've not heard before. Keep up the interesting work Vincent!
This is the best forehand explanation video I've ever seen. True that you should speak quicker, but the content is 10/10
Don't be fooled. His swing path is absolutely low to high. not flat. not high to low.
The two main points you CAN take away from this is ...
1 - start really low - bend your knees to explode up / through the ball
and
2 - use more wrist / windshield wiper motion to get that extra topspin.
you mean brushing the ball? it is good but when you hit it hard it's risky cuz it's so close to the net
this way is high and powerful with heavy topspin
DO NOT use the wrist for topsin. The pros use forearm rotation instead. That produces the windshield wiper. Your wrist must be kept stable and slightly bent backward throughout the hitting zone.
I didn't know that, so I'm glad I found this video. But there is something else no one ever talks about, and that is using your elbow to whip the forehand. It requires very little motion and supplies a huge amount of leverage. I know some teachers say to use the largest muscles, and rotate with your shoulder, not your wrist. They often don't even mention the elbow. If you cock your wrist with the head of the racquet pointing up, you can knock the crap out of the ball just by moving your elbow. Less motion = more accuracy. The power comes from your forearm muscles, and mine are very strong, so this works for me. I guess another way to put it is to say one should hit a forehand like they hit a serve. The most movement on a serve is from the elbow, and that is why you can hit the ball 200 kmh (well, some can). I'm not that great, so take my advice with a grain of salt. I haven't had enough experience to get really good, but I can KILL my forehand using my method. I also have a very hard serve, which comes from using a lot of wrist and elbow. I get the topspin by jumping up into the ball, yielding a high bounce to the opponent's backhand side, which is something almost nobody returns well.
i agree because i encountered it, but in addition to that just imagine the angle of the net, the hitting ball and the racket face with your stroke, i'm a beginner but it is absolutely effective, i must not share these because starting today I want to be an undefeated player everyday and every competition
Tremendous teaching skills from this smart young man, wow. Aside from being correct, he is concise and clear, unlike all other long-winded online tennis instructors.
Good breakdown. I feel like 'low to high' is a saying from the 70s/80s. I feel like 4.0 and below just don't get the legs aspect of things. You see the same mistakes over and over again. Anyway, I find to create more top, besides what you said, just opening the face a hair more is all you need to do. Like you said, the bulk of the swing is from the legs/hips/core and the arm if loose...just comes along for the ride.
You’re literally swinging low to high in the intro
It must be a troll video. I have no other explanation for that. 🤷♂
The point is that you should lower your body and not just your hand. If you focus on just your hand going below the ball, then you might be dropping your shoulder and leaning over instead of just bending your legs to get under the ball. He saying at that point once your body is under the ball by bending your legs, then you will have to have to hit low to high. So that point it’s better to hit through the ball. That way you have spin and penetrate the court. I am guilty of using my hand and arm only. Produces tons of spin but no real weight behind the ball.
Swinging Inside to outside instead of low to high helped me a lot
If you slow down the swing of the player hitting near the start of the video, it's quite clear that his arm is moving higher through the finish.
This is a great reminder for even higher level players. Every once in a while, I find myself swinging too much low to high and not through the ball on my topspin forehand and when I do, I always play worse. I've noticed this will happen the most when mentally under pressure in a tight match.
Hey Vince, nice to see you again. I saw you in a few junior tournaments in Canada. You still have almost the same hair cut.
This is the very best explanation that I have found in a lot of time. Thank you !!
There are so many different balls which ball are you talking about and or what is the objective deep or short and what exactly does the legs do to the ball?
The best explanation for forehand! Thank you so much!
This made a huge difference for me. Thank you.
for once I found somebody who is a good understanding about tennis (sorry for my aproximate english... good talk mister, keep going !
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Nice video. Fully agree. Point is that body is much more invested in every shot. It is not the arm motion, it is not the wrist motion, it is whole body motion in each stroke.
I agree with you . I see people flipping their hand and the ball is very weak. I blast straight thru it and get lots of spin in the process.
Thank you for your videos!! Keep doing them, please. This kind of information is priceless and It's well explained.
You are doing excellent with your channel! Consistency is required to succeed and I know you'll keep improving every aspect of your videos.
Greetings from Colombia! (with "o", not "u")
What’s the surface of the court you’re playing on?
It's very useful information. I knew this before but get confirmation in this video. 2 things: 1)your legs 2) hit the ball , and don't only spin it
Actually tried this technique of hitting across the body. He described it in a different video as hitting an imaginary c in front of you. Well the balls I hit this way seems more powerful and penetrating the court . He is on to something here
I clicked on the link for your courses and I was sent to a page where it says it costs 16,400?
what's your tennis racket model?
Totally true. You take pictures of your standard club tennis class, everyone looks like they are waiting for a bus.
Smart guy, footwork and knees bent are key for consistent stroke at advance level . Real pro approach for high speed rallies
Good demonstration of low to high at the start of the video, I didn't see a demonstration of the table top swing
I don't see how you get 2500 RPM on the top spin with only the legs.
Fabio Fognini....enters the chat
Nice description of the modern tennis forehand.
What are your strings and tension?
This is excellent, i love your approach and your attitude. Subscribed
What racquet are you using?
Excellent vid Doc. Nothing new for me but always nice to be reminded.
EXACTLY!
Bend the knees!
Great video.
Nadal and Federer swing low to high big time. Extremely low racquet drops like theirs aren’t what I’d teach, but most topspin comes from low to high as contact is being made. The follow through is a result. Federer doesn’t have a high follow through even though he has a low to high swing.
Wrong! They do not have low to high swing path generated from arm.
@@DeltoidBeast It is pretty close to impossible to generate topspin and get the ball over the net without a low to high swing path. Topspin comes from the direction the racquet face is moving relative to the angle of the racquet face. A flat swing with a flat face will put the ball in the net. A flat swing with the face slightly closed will hit ball lower into the net. You have to swing low to high to get the ball over the net with a topspin groundstroke. A truly flat groundstroke hit 80 mph with no topspin drops nearly 2.5 feet by the time it reaches the net so unless the ball is over your head you have to swing low to high to get it over the net with topspin.
@@marktace1 Point is that low to high comes from the body, not the arm or the wrist. To have power on your shots you need penetration, to go through the ball. Grip and angle of your racket generate spin, but you need to do it as fast as possible, to have the greatest possible racket head speed, and for that you need strong, linear movement with your arm, to invest body into the shot as much as possible.
@@DeltoidBeast Nice concept but reality as is quite obvious from side on video is that topspin comes mostly from the low to high hand path and that there is a very limited contribution from the legs. The legs provide power but trying to use the legs to create topspin tends to lead to errors and doesn’t create much topspin. Look at side on slow motion of forehands and you’ll see that the players waists tend to be fixed in height through contact while the hand is going low to high. Yes, more racquet head speed creates more topspin but that is because it enables the hand to move faster along the low to high path.
@@marktace1 that low to high what you mean is nothing more than most powerful way to swing racket. There is a lot of body involment, legs. Arm is just final link. Point is if you try to swing racket intentionaly from low to high there is no power like that, or true top spin. Top spin comes naturally as product of powerful swinging through the ball. Look at strokes of guy from the video. He has excellent strokes and knows what he is talking about. What you are saying is amateur technique. I tried this myself, and it works.
Nice ! bravo = I am an exp. tennis player and it was spot on !
Do we need to knee down or just play with only hand and rotation of body?
Thanks Doc, it's time to put tennis technique into the written law, to many variations.
Great video man, I could watch you hit balls all day, can you put some more forehand content out? Thanks
Very well explained & definitely will try to apply it to my forehand. Thanks
Great video, you make it easy to understand.
Great lesson. I’m trying to level up and this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you!
Thanks for the useful information. And speak very slowly good for nonEnglish speakers
True saw a guy playing like this today creating tremendous power
I love how he speaks slowly so that I can really take in what he is saying. 👍
WOW Great tip, i was trying to figure out this mystery and you just elaborate it so well.
Very good explanation.
I like your delivery mate, and appreciate your tips. I'll definitely try this out.
Good job. I use the same concept for my kick serves but just underneath the ball. lol
Hello Vincent,
Could you make a video for top-spin rallies from the service line?
As a warm-up routine, I do the rally with my friends every 10 minutes before the baseline rally is started.
Do what you are doing, many people think they know everything. I am still working on my technique its not so easy.
Good advise and clear explained. thanks for the video.
So... I've just watched the guys on OTI and he says the low to high body movement is also innaccurate! Which I personally agree with. None of you ("coaches" including the 4-5 different ones I've had over the years)) are explaining this. That while yes, you want bent knees for spring, but mainly to enable the transfer of weight starting on the back foot, then twisting through the kinetic chain twisting forward to the front foot or even jumping off the feet. Many of the times by the time the pro player hits the ball they're not low at all, they're springing forward from the weight balance transfer. It would be great if you would complete the advice in your video to explain this please. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great video. I needed that table top swing
Very clear, can’t wait to try the tips on the court
very clear presentation. I also think wiper path don't produce much power..
is your footwork recovery/split-step Alcarez-inspired?
You are just talking about the same technique from another perspective. The audio is hypnotizing though.
what about a short low ball around the service line
If you watch this video in 2x speed you'll save alot of time.
Good reminder!
This is excellent . Thank you
This was so helpful, used this in my match today and I was noticeably more consistent
Good.👍👍. Greetings from Panamá 🇵🇦
my experience backs up the advice from this video. if you don't hit through the ball, you shank it. great advice.
Great explanation and lesson !
It’s not a majority forearm pronation. It’s shoulder rotation that creates the windshield wiper and the forearm merely finishes it.
Go watch some Alcaraz, Del Potro or Federer bombs and you will see the immense shoulder rotation, just like on huge servers like Sampras, Roddick and Shelton.
You are right that beginners are often too vertical in their swing, but pros go low to high through the ball (in height) about the width of the racquet head.
Thanks coach, your tips is very helpful
Amazing video ❤
Your instruction applies exclusively to the shots from baseline and high short balls.
LOW to HIGH racket motion is absolutely essential in short balls below net level.