the last 7 firefighters who died in bush fires in Australia died from falling objects. Where is the Falling Object Protection System that will prevent the cab from being crushed? Bear in mind FOPS on fire trucks has been available in Australia since 2005.
As mentioned, those deaths have little to do with the need for FOPS. Without kicking off a huge, insenitive argument, FMS training used to include identifying dangerous trees as well as stay away from large trees either burnt, on fire of heat stressed. Training over the years has gone to the dogs and many brigades suffer from poor training and support.
Seen the findings No preventative measures known in modern fire fighting truck's could have saved them sadly(30 to 40 tones can't be stopped), but we should always try to make as strong as possible trucks, but then we must carry less water 💧 when im fighting fire i want lots of water and a safe and slow driver
For years, I have been pretty critical over the crapiness of appliances here in QLD but I must say, this truck has finally hit a point of being much better designed. The only thing leaving me lacking is the choice of small GAAM 125 and motor. The idea of a town truck and a bush truck helps with options for brigades. The biggest hurdle is many brigades are told what they are going to get without options, I have sat there in so many meetings where AD's and the RM flat-out refused anything but bloody Danger Rangers.
Got a look at this truck up close other day when the AD was driving it around as a personal vehicle.... Pump, tiny GAAM MK125, 500 L/min at 10 bar and 600 L/ min at 7 bar on paper but when you see the flange plage and only a 1.25" tube elbow into small hose to feed the manifold that only has a single 25 and a pair of 38 Storz fittings, don't get too keen on dealling with big stuff. A very long way from the MK450's and MK500's other states use. No 64's kids. Dead reel on side not plumbed, just a hose reel only. far side reel faces out to traffic if in need from road access. Foam drums, 3 of them, only one tapped at a time. Drip-torch fule tank on the small side and the guard for it is already bent. Plenty of height under the truck clearance was for normal use but there are no bash plates on the most exposed item, the transfer case which is already leaking on the input shaft seal. Needs bigger pump and plumbing as currently, a mop-up truck. Needs bash plates and guards to protect driveline. Having the crew area on the rear and a dual-cab is space waste, single cabs can carry three to incident, two can then move to rear deck, other drives. Front steers could better setup with bigger SS's.
I think the use of an automatic transmission is a bad idea for standard fitment as they require extra cooling that may not be available because of a fire present a couple of metres away. Bad enough that we once had a electrically controlled transfer case go all neutrals and the truck get caught in a burn over.
Yes. Those AWD auto transmissions are a real problem. The transfer box for 4wd only have about 1.5 litres and 3 have failed here in nsw RFS at a cost of $70000 each.
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Good truck. I would be happy to use it. I hope the innovation continues to move throughout all services.
the last 7 firefighters who died in bush fires in Australia died from falling objects. Where is the Falling Object Protection System that will prevent the cab from being crushed? Bear in mind FOPS on fire trucks has been available in Australia since 2005.
That's more to do with expierience of the operator
FOPs isn't needed also means less water....
how many of the 7 have been in vehicles vs on foot?
As mentioned, those deaths have little to do with the need for FOPS. Without kicking off a huge, insenitive argument, FMS training used to include identifying dangerous trees as well as stay away from large trees either burnt, on fire of heat stressed. Training over the years has gone to the dogs and many brigades suffer from poor training and support.
Seen the findings No preventative measures known in modern fire fighting truck's could have saved them sadly(30 to 40 tones can't be stopped), but we should always try to make as strong as possible trucks, but then we must carry less water 💧 when im fighting fire i want lots of water and a safe and slow driver
Great looking truck... well done Queensland! Similar to CFA's heavy tankers which are also great trucks to use.
Would have said CFS more then CFA
Neither the CFA or CFS used such a pitifully small pump.
Looks more like the medium tanker from the CFA
For years, I have been pretty critical over the crapiness of appliances here in QLD but I must say, this truck has finally hit a point of being much better designed. The only thing leaving me lacking is the choice of small GAAM 125 and motor. The idea of a town truck and a bush truck helps with options for brigades. The biggest hurdle is many brigades are told what they are going to get without options, I have sat there in so many meetings where AD's and the RM flat-out refused anything but bloody Danger Rangers.
Got a look at this truck up close other day when the AD was driving it around as a personal vehicle.... Pump, tiny GAAM MK125, 500 L/min at 10 bar
and 600 L/ min at 7 bar on paper but when you see the flange plage and only a 1.25" tube elbow into small hose to feed the manifold that only has a single 25 and a pair of 38 Storz fittings, don't get too keen on dealling with big stuff. A very long way from the MK450's and MK500's other states use. No 64's kids. Dead reel on side not plumbed, just a hose reel only. far side reel faces out to traffic if in need from road access. Foam drums, 3 of them, only one tapped at a time. Drip-torch fule tank on the small side and the guard for it is already bent.
Plenty of height under the truck clearance was for normal use but there are no bash plates on the most exposed item, the transfer case which is already leaking on the input shaft seal.
Needs bigger pump and plumbing as currently, a mop-up truck. Needs bash plates and guards to protect driveline. Having the crew area on the rear and a dual-cab is space waste, single cabs can carry three to incident, two can then move to rear deck, other drives. Front steers could better setup with bigger SS's.
The United States should be using some of these features but continue to endanger workers by not providing for our safety.
Nice rig.
How much water is reserved for the first aid tank?
I think the use of an automatic transmission is a bad idea for standard fitment as they require extra cooling that may not be available because of a fire present a couple of metres away. Bad enough that we once had a electrically controlled transfer case go all neutrals and the truck get caught in a burn over.
Yes. Those AWD auto transmissions are a real problem. The transfer box for 4wd only have about 1.5 litres and 3 have failed here in nsw RFS at a cost of $70000 each.
Wow pretty much fit for purpose when do we get one.
This is a great truck. They might consider developing a dedicated tanker to follow each truck through the bush.
Have a look at the cfa ultra heavy.
How much Ballpark?
Very nice piece of kit.
I want one
Why wasn’t this a thing in black summer??? This would have helped a lot with fighting fires it’s a great truck tho.
U Need a winch to move stuff
$350 thousand to build and they sell them 10 years later for $40 thousand 😂 NICE 👍