Decent video, I've been a fan of yours for a while from other games, but as a 7 days veteran (close to 2000 hours) I have a few corrections/additions to share with my fellow viewers. 1. The orientation of the ladders do not affect their use, only front and back. So having the front of the ladders facing out, as you have on the top row of ladders, means the zombies can climb/cling to them. 2. The single pole block does not stop zombies in their crawling animation from getting through, you need the pole double block or something similar. It is not as much as a problem as it was, as in 1.0 the zombies don't seem to be going into their crawling animation as much as they were, but an unexpected zombie just bypassing your defenses without you expecting it could vary well mean death. 3. The side plating is good, but instead of the plate corners along the edge of the ramp, use the "Catwalk V2 corner", the one with no railing. When on it's side in that orientation the zombies do not see it as a path so the will go around it and not get stuck on the side of your ramp. It does what you are putting the 1m hole in for, but without the downsides. 4. Lose the hole blocks in early game. You do not want them where zombies normally path around them, as one will eventually get stuck and possibly start digging. A single zombie digging under your base can collapse the whole thing in a single hoard night. Only use them where you don't want zombies pathing around, or if you have it on top of at least concrete blocks, or a pit they can climb out of. 5. Zombies will not path to a 2 block gap for ladders. So leave your bottom 2 ladders off, and you can jump onto your ladder without having to pick it up or break it every time. 6. Zombie will absolutely attack dirt blocks if they are in destroy area mode from taking fall damage. 7. The fall distance of 11 blocks is the magic number to not enter destroy area mode when they take fall damage. The safer standard is 15, because zombies often fall on top of other zombies which, and this gives a buffer incase that happens so they do not enter destroy area mode. 8. Destroy area mode means the zombie no longer attempts to path to the player, instead looking to destroy any block underneath or supporting the player it is targeting. 9. Electric fences are OP. Love the content. Hope this helps out some survivors. Enjoy :)
Just completed night 70 with this base design on my solo world. Thank you so much!! Base was upgraded to steel and took a demo to the face just fine. I'm in the process of copying it on our multiplayer server now and can't wait to see how it stands up to a real horde!
Just wanted to say thank you! This is genuinely the first horde base that actually worked. I have a couple hundred hours, but my hoard bases (without watching yt) would suck. Typically, most of the zombies would just attack my horde base, while only a couple would reach me... THANK YOU
Works like a charm. Thank you! Only change I would do is add a bigger hole in the ceiling to shoot the vultures. Or place a turret up there to manage the birds.
After playing this game for almost 500 hrs (only started around alpha 19 i believe) this is a good starter base but probably wont last into late game. I get it may work out for some but a lot can go wrong. There are a few things to know about the AI. They always try to find the easiest most direct path to you. So making the ramp and not leaving it as blocks they have to jump lets them overwhelm the front bar at later horde nights. That is one change i would make if you are brand new to the game. Second thing to know is if a zombie falls a distance of 13 blocks down from you they wont go into destroy everything mode. So 13 is a magic number to prevent this. Third cops and other ranged zombies can shoot through the gap as it isnt the best anti zombie block around. My 2nd horde night i had a steel center block and it was almost destroyed with just normal cops showing up on normal settings. (I play with 300% exp and loot but default difficulty which plays out well as i level fast and find equivalent loot as i go) . A lot of what makes a horde base the best is usually durability. This cant be a forever base as it is inside a poi and the poi will take damage and could collapse over time. An emphasis story in the community from alpha 21 was a group built a base in dizhong tower just to have zombies cause the skyskraper to collapse mid horde night lol. This base is good for maybe up to mid game. When you get end game you want things automated with a killing corridor. Last alpha my base was underground with a killbox above ground. It had a 3 layer defense with plenty of auto turrets. As a solo that is the only way to really handle hordes late game. Ok for starting out.
Tip that works for me: instead of making it 3x2 i usually leave only the middle part (1x2). I do this so i prevent cops from around the base to see me and snipe me from miles away. They can see me only when they climb the stairs:/ladder.
13 blocks high (or 13 away from you, horizontally) is the limit for "Destroyeverything" mode! Its also a good idea to make pyramid stairs/ramps to help zombies get onto the ramp (although those Circle blocks are a new discovery)
I second the pyramid stairs at the bottom. Tried many other ways to prevent them from hitting on the sides, but the pyramid stairs always worked for several alpha version and still does in V1.0. Blocks like the cube hole tend to get reworked by TFP once they realize they can get abused.
There is a timer on how long they have to get to within 13 blocks and still enter destroy everything. Best thing if you are going to have them drop is to force them to path longer so that destroy everything times out
@@pApA0LeGBa You can also you the Triangular Catwalk wedge plates (forget their exact name) on the sides instead, those blocks Aren't pathable and will force the zombies to go around it! Also looks good asthetically!
@@mikeriley2475 I came here to say that. I've been using them the past few alphas with no issues. I wish I could remember who pointed that out, to give credit.
also a really fun thing to do and is op, is to build a extra platform one block on the side of the ramp and put a robotic sledge turret watch it launch zombies plus it needs no power so can keep going. Put the weighted mod and flame helps with dps also.
3:36 probably good idea to add panic hatches for each ladder (6 in total) so in case both layers get destroyed you can just pop a hatch up and use the remaining ladders
the block to remember is the cube 1m hole to protect the beginning of the ramp. the rest is a basic mele base with a height of 11-12 blocks for the fighting position. One point you did not mention: The higher tier POI you use to build your horde base, the better the loot you will have after horde night since you will be standing in a POI that raises the loot stage when you open up the loot bags.
loot has nothing to do with POI's loot stage is determined by biome and your game stage, harder biomes give higher loot stage drops. ie.. you might be loot stage 30 in green biome, but in wasteland your game stage would be say 50. this also affects loot bag drops.
@@michaelvial125 It does. Biome raises overall loot stage but a loot bag that drops inside a 1 skull forest biome POI will have less/worse loot than a bag that drops inside a 4 skull forest biome POI and it's determined upon opening said loot bags.
The rage mode distance of 11 isn't just vertical, it's also horizontal. In short, if you push the top of the ramp more than 11 block from where you stand and melee, you'll stop the zeds from reaching the top of the ramp and start bashing the ramp before running across the pole to your position. I hope I explained it well enough for it to make sense. Whatever you do or make, if you run into problems with zeds reaching your height but they start bashing your structure before running forward to you; it's rage mode and just remember 11 blocks.
Great vid. Even though I have 5200 hours on steam and 2k hours on PlayStation pre A16, I thought it was very informative, and found a useful tip that I want to use to try and mix up the standard 11 blocks high to deal with rage mode.
Ladders can be left up they just need to be the 3rd block off the ground. Meaning 2 blocks with no ladder or something for the zombies to step on. And if you do that they will totally ignore the ladder. And you can still jump to get on it even with no parcor.
It does need to be at least 2 blocks away left or right from a wall. If it is closer the AI says beat the wall to make a step, then get on ladder and climb
I’ve been playing 7 days from late alpha 14 onward, and I always found it so exciting to learn the mechanics of zombies on horde nights and build bases/defenses around said mechanics. A lot has changed and some that didn’t. People are bringing up the demos, for me, I actually like to test the limits, if my base takes a beating we’ll then I just repair it and it actually gives me stuff to do. Playing single player well into high game stages can sometimes get a bit stale. I know for myself personally, I don’t want to just sit around all night and be in a base so indestructible that I’m just twiddling my thumbs. At its core, it’s a game that’s about fighting zombies & looting, when you find/craft the best of the best loot, and that part is not as much of a hunt anymore, well then at least let’s keep fighting hordes challenging, spicy & interesting. Lol. Back in alpha 14/15, we had no electric traps, spike traps & barbed wire lol, and my pillar bases used to get quite a beating. Again, I’m just speaking personally, if my base does take a beating, we’ll I have 7 in game days to repair it, while my forges and workbenches/mixers/chem stations & mining are essentially my new “looting.” It’s all good.
I agree completely!! The thrill of things possibly falling apart is what keeps this game the most fun for me! I have only been playing for about 6 months, so I can't imagine how it would be to have as much experience as you! I live for the fear/thrill so I hope there's always ways to keep things interesting!
There are mods out there that make the entire game WAY, WAYYYY!!!!! HARDER. I dont think this base would last past the 3rd bloodmoon in these mods, im serious. I find myself running away a lot, completely desperate to reach something high, as they completely collapse anything I am in at some point and it is just scary. I love it
2 horde nights so far, works well. only difference is I've built it up 11+ blocks in height (someone recommended it to avoid zombies going into rage mode).
I take over a 2-3 story building, make sure there is no access to the roof except ladders on the outside I built that start 3 blocks high off the ground. perfect non-moon base. for the moon night, i find a 10-12 story building, secure the roof, again, destroy all access to the roof. Then ride out the blood moon in relative peace. come morning, they loose their super power, run down kill the blood horde and go on about playing. it's about surviving the night, not killing your way through it.
Speak for yourself; my goal for horde night is to see how many levels I can gain in a single night. My horde bases always end up as a shooting gallery. If you just sit on top of a tall structure, you're betting on the zoms not doing enough damage to collapse it out from under you...and that only works for so long.
@@therealbahamut you can do the same with mine...10-12 story building. but I can make more EXP mining in a few game hours than a whole night of waves of zombies.
Love it, FireSpark81! The straight ramp is simpler than most base builds I've seen. They usually do some 90’ angles and strange pipe walks to the fighting doors… You could do that, bend this Easy to fit into an Alleyway next to almost any building in town. So this is portable. You could put a 90’ turn in it as needed. Turn it into an infinite drop loop, which it almost is as you show. Easy to dig & reinforce your pit to delay them for grenades, etc... Easy to start with a few upright cube stacks if resources are scarce for horde #1, then fill in. The full wall build underneath allows for many zoms to beat on it all night and it will stay up. Easy to upgrade to cobble, cement, and beyond as the cycles progress. Nice. Great, simple, flexible, adaptable, portable. Love it. That's how a FireSpark do!
Saw this video two days ago and figured I'd give it a go for the day 21 horde. It certainly did the job, although the loot bags despawning before the night is through sucks. All in all, I'd say it's good for anyone completely new to the game.
Np. Hopefully you find it helpful. It's so funny to me that they hate it so much they will walk the longest possible path if it means they dont have to cross it. I'm sure lots of fun can be had with it for sure.
Strongly worded title. I would confidently put my "best" horde base against any on youtube. And it's not cheese, and designed for optimized XP and minimized repair. Day 7000 insane-nightmare is just an XP & loot farm, and you won't even need much repair mats. The problem with that horde base, is that it actually trivializes horde nights to such an extent, that it kinda breaks the game. But this is a very solid night 7-21 horde base. maybe somewhat higher with some material upgrades. And a great intro to solid horde base design. Demos will be a bit problematic with this, but that's a later-game problem. (personally, I'd spike the roof instead of making a portal to get vultures. And later replace with turrets. Later game vultures spit, so you don't want to give them line of sight. Even if they can't spit through that block type, they'll try, and that's an upkeep cost. But even at early gamestage, they give bad XP & loot per second, so it's fine to automate the removal of vultures.)
Didnt watch but wanted to say Figuring out the best horde base is one of the great joys and challenges of this game. id recommend not spoiling the game for yourself
With the buried supply quest i tend to dig the cardinal directions to pin point the spot. also taking treasure hunter helps a great deal too less time spent digging.
I've been making horde bases like this one for a couple years now, although I use doors as a walkway instead of the pole pyramid shape so that I can open it to drop the zombies down whenever I want a reprieve from fighting. It is more space for the zombies to stand on, but that just means I can hit more zombies with my melee weapon.
Huge like and subscribe for this. I'm a new player. I played a very little pre 1.0 and didnt really learn the ropes enough to get to my first horde night. Now that Ive learned how to be a bit more effective i was trying to figure out how i was going to deal with a horde night and this is perfect. I really appreciate the tip. I really just wanted an effective way to tide me over until I can let my creativity shine and this did that perfectly. Thank you.
My friends and i ended up clearing an entire block around a hotel. We made a killbox in the middle of the street for our shotgun brawler, built our base on top of the motel with easy jumpoff access for our SMG guy, and walled an area off around a water tower as the sniper. Add in copious spike traps, and we've been splitting the horde three ways making it significantly easier
Honestly I'd change the title to early game horde base because once demo zombies show up that base is gonna get destroyed real quick if you accidentally hit his bomb
True or they get trigger happy like me. Just finished a horde night, blew up another one lmao. Luckily I upgraded to cement. So it took it like a champ. I really gotta calm my baton smackin down. 🤣
New zombie Ai states that if they you are less than 11 blocks above the zombies, they gain a new AI pattern called "Destroy Everything - Has Path." This is to prevent you from just having a platform above you. Adjust the horde base accordingly.
@@silverbird425yeah if you’re at least 11 blocks high they won’t go into that rage mode, they’ll just stay normal and try to take the path up to you. If you’re not 11 high they will go into the rage mode and just destroy whatever they see for the most part.
I just dig down and make a horde base in the ground. The zombies come down the shaft built and it's very easy picking them off. Works fine until demo guys which can explode the whole thing.
Good variations & guide on one of the more popular horde base concepts. I didn't know about using the hole blocks on the ground to deter zombies from slapping the ramp (though I've rarely had mine take much damage anyway). After the first few horde nights, this will need some additional plates to keep cop zombies from seeing you from the ground and destroying your exposed electric fence posts with spit.
Yeah, I think I would just move each of the fence posts as far from the walkway pole as possible and make a hole in the wall for repairs. Would also prevent the fence from being blown up.
As stated in another comment already, i would rather go with pyramid stairs on the bottom. The hole cube might work for a while, but as this is basically glitch abusing, there is a high chance that the devs will fix it. We had several different blocks that you could abuse and they all got fixed. The pyramid stairs do work for several years now and won´t get changed as you use them as intended. Still great video.
@@tartarsauce65I have seen several blocks fixed over the years that took advantage of zombie AI or pathing glitches with certain blocks and it was usually fixed in the next version. The pyramid stairs don´t use any pathing issues or glitches. They work like intended and use the intended zombie pathing. Would you rather use something that will work as it should or do you want to be surprised during horde night when a glitch abuse doesn´t work anymore?
I just make a 7x7 box on ground leaving one block in middle of each side open at chest height I place a hatch in the opening and then I line the inside with sideways round ladder as an extra layer of defense. The block space interior to the hatch I rotate a thin corner pole piece against. Every side is double wall protected when the hatches are closed (and visible and in reach of repair) and Whichever hatch I open all the zombies run too. When vultures are strong enough to worry about 2 turrets on top facing inwards solves that and demo dmg If they go off I’ll move to a new side by closing hatch and opening new one
Basically I can melee through to the late game as long as I keep up with repairs (tested ultra late with demos on insane albeit I just use the normal blood moon volume so if you crank the zombie numbers you will probably get overrun)
Like I told the others. 1 dont blow them up and 2 just upgrade to steel. Youll be fine. I know cause Ive used it with many demo showing up. They are no biggy. Well unless I get slap happy like you saw in the vid lol
Some friends and I have tried different variations of this tightrope-tower build for late stage horde night. FireSpark81 did say this is an easy early build, but let's roll with it. Late stage we found 3 ramps converging up to the top at the start of the tightrope works well. We have tried up to 5 rampe, but anything beyond 3 ramps seems excessive for materials. We also create longer tightropes, usually 5 blocks span, and two tightropes in series so there is a center-platform where we place DPs/robosledge We have had only 1 horde night where demo/cop explosions took out all 3 ramps! That sucked. 😅 I get trigger happy too! Had a couple other nights where explosions took out 2 of 3 ramps. Most of the time, we lose none or 1. Everything upgraded to steel; 3 blocks above ground, 2 block below ground, ramp, faces, and platforms. Everything else is done in concrete. The pill box is big enough for 3 people side by side plus a storage/generator room in the back with escape hatch (bales of hay down below the rear escape). We also use crown corner blocks instead of scaffolding ladders, as cops will not spit at you with crown corner blocks. So imagine a ramp to the north, to the west, and to the south, and it can have legs/strut/pilon instead of solid wall for support. Also, supports need to be buried 2 or 3 blocks below surface so any cops who blow on the ground don't just undermine the structure. I usually make a 3x3 or 5x5 anchor pad below each pilon/strut/leg. All that said, most of my team just decided to wing horde nights for fun. We literally just set the game to max difficulty, stand out in the streets, and run and gun the entire night yelling at each other like fools. Sometimes we die, and it's hella fun compared to fish in a barrel. Good hunting amigos!
Building this now after trying to just wing it for our first 1.0 horde night and running into one of those insane af zombie dire wolves. Long story short... friend and I didn't survive our first horde night.
Placing a ladder that you have to pick up later is pointless. Just use hatch/trapdoors on the side of the building instead. That way, the open lid should give you a platform to stand on, and you repeat this trick to make stairs that you can close behind you. You can also set up a tripwire system to close all the hatch doors for you when you get to the top. For the birds, those can be killed using spikes on the roof in early game and late game you can use a shotgun turret (you don't really need to put a hole in the roof). The problem with smaller pits is that some zombies explode (demo or cop). So, I usually dig to bedrock before digging a ramp leading out of the pit, and I also have several ladders as alternate ways out. When cops fall they run toward a way out, but if hurt enough they will pop within seconds. So, having them run toward the ramp you made is not ideal since if the ramp goes the animals start to dig (animals can not use the ladders). That is why I installed the ladders and made them come up in a spot closer to my base than the spot I have the ramp end to make it more appealing for zombies who can use ladders due to being/staying closer to the target players.
This is the most effective design but once you get alot of cops and demos you should build your own base with this design and have 2 sides mirrored. The cops and demos will eventually tear the house apart from explosion and spits because the base and walls of houses are weak. If you use the door strat instead of the pyramid pole, you can open the door to make the zombies fall and prevent demos explosions to destroy your ''cage''. By building 2 sides, you leave one path accessible and if anything goes wrong you just open the door and switch to the other side.
I'm on game stage 200 something in one of my playthroughs and have yet to have demos or cops break through. You just need to upgrade the material and dont blow up the demos lol. Cops really are not an issue at all. Heck I feel like they nerfed them at some point before 1.0.
As deep a pit you can dig 5 squares wide line inner walls with spikes. A simple and effective horde stopper. Thay get trapped in the pit and cant get out die on the spikes or as you take your time and motov them or just plink at them with your bow or gun.
My biggest issue with spikes and other such traps is you don't get the exp from kill. Which is kinda dumb cause you do for all the electric traps but not spikes.
@@jakkrit6910 I dig diagonally down around 15ish in a hill single file.. level out for a little. Then fill in the front with maybe 5 pairs of 2 stacked. Pop an iron door near the deep end. Then the horde come and as they get near, back up and repeat how you need. So far.. it's taking them too long, and there's always a little pew pew over the door at the end of needed. Sounds a lot but isn't.
Cool variations FireSpark81, and I like how you use a pre-existing Poi to save early game resources. 🤔That's smart! I will have to try that electric fence idea, too. 😶🌫 I was shocked.. to see how well that worked. 😉
@@watchyoprofamity1235 I just help people who are unfortunate enough to still play 7D2D. It's pure fking trash but you'll find that out sooner or later. But, zombies will go into what people call a "rage mode" and start attacking your base if they fall sometimes. If you inflicted any kind of damage, (kinda like spike or I use a turret) The zombies will instantly end Rage Mode and continue trying to get to you. So spikes is a good idea but on the ramp side. Not where the zombies fall at 👍
@@watchyoprofamity1235 I saw JaWoodle build a grenade chute into his firehouse. So you can drop a grenade into the pit when a few fall at once, and get your made kills in too? And/or build a side door to your combat room, to step more clear to toss a Molly to light them up. Must have cobble or better Everywhere down there for that tho… Making it a deeper pit with more large square blocks for them to have to jump up, will delayed longer for grenades to get more at once…
@@SweetLeavesXbox1you have to be really unhappy with your life if you stick to vids about a game you supoosedly don't even like. If it's pure trash for you, just move out and close the door, keep your fake feeling of superiority for supposedly not playing it for yourself.
I have to ask the same question as @Firespark81 Just putting a wall up around a POI will only slow the zombies for maybe a minute, they will use their sledgehammer hands to melt a hole in the wall and then all zombies will prefer to path through that hole for the rest of the night.
@@Firespark81 The easiest horde base is standing on top of the walls of a POI and shooting the zombies from there, because there's 0 set-up required, and it's sufficient to handle at least the first 2 horde nights.
Pick a POI especially the pig farm one where hogzilla lives, strafe from roof to roof with a lot of barbed wire around the bottoms and taking out any blocks that they can jump on to get on the roof. They will eventually bust through the roof but it's a start for the first few bloodmoons, or just a random POI that you go on the roof while taking out the stairs, lasts for the first few
I'm missing some of these blocks, specifically the small slope trim in front of the fighting slit and the pyramid point. Is this something which unlocks with a magazine or skill?
works till the demos start showin up. I wouldn't call this the most effective base though it's still pretty "expensive" vs some other starters that can get you just as far I personally don't even prepare for the first horde until the start of the 7th day lol
This works just fine even with demos. I know because I use it all the time and I get lots of demos. Just don't blow them up just like with any hoard base lmao.
yes but falling alone wont be enough to kill em usually, even if it's to bedrock. Early in this games life the base meta was a pit to bedrock with spikes at the bottom while u sat in basically a cage of steel/cement.
Can i use this base for the entire game? I had zombies try to break into the basement at the end of the second week, i assume i can just upgrade to concrete at the bottom and be fine? I want to minimize chances that they'll try to break in after they fall into the pit.
I dont think this is 1.0 in the video but if your keeping your loot here I personally wouldnt, as he said, they can and will eventually collapse the house so youd lose all your stuff
You could live in a nearby house on an upper level. Just remove all access to the upper floor their too. If they are close enough you can built a walkway, just leave two blocks open or put a door on it's side. The door has to be oriented the right way so when it is open you can walk over it. I build two pretty identical structures one is my hoard base and one is my crafting base. Attach them with a short walkway that has a door on it's side. On hoard night close the door so you can't walk over it. As long as the zombies don't think they are connected they won't attack the crafting base. As always test everything before hoard night. :)
Most do at least until they can make a strong combo base. Early on it can be too much to try and build both in one, and it's a big risk to do horde where all your loot is
You could build in town where one building is your Stark Industries crafting factory, then run a block bridge across the street or even farther to your impenetrable horde base of Last Standage…
I pretty sure he got the basics from someone else. I used to watch 7dtd YTers doing this before he was a YTer though he seemed to the noisist about this base design.
The original concept was probably posted by someone on Reddit or something. It's also not hard to just figure it out on your own. My and my friend have been making different bases to screw with zombie pathing for many years now. This is just the simplest design.
You don't even need to do a ramp just knock a hole through each floor and shoot down at them. I've used a three story wooden house and have done that - up to day 63 now. I did upgrade some of it to concrete - the floor and a few walls. But they seem to just wander around down there and only attack block to get inside. Using the Jacobs residence but I used another one with one of those towers and that worked well too. Just really any big three story will work. If you're in a two story they'll beat all the blocks out to collapse it.
This is most effeftive horde base design. First rule of 7DTD horde base: "When you allow more than three zombies constanly bang into your fighting position, you are dead man". Especially first horde night with lack of ammo, stamina and stone axe as repair tool.
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Many different structures can work. Look for a clean side as he described, and few vertical access routes you have to demolish. Knocking out a bunch of 5000 hp steel ladders with a stone axe isn't fun. Check the durability of the ground level blocks. Some are painted to look like metal or concrete but are actually just wood or 1200 hp stone.
Just had my first horde night with this exact setup and it did not go well. 90% of the enemies tried to come around behind me, through two iron doors and up a 3-story ladder that no longer existed because i broke it before nighttime, rather than run up the ramp. I ended up breaking through the center railing and standing on top of the ramp in the open, firing my shotgun to try to lure them to me and killing the occasional straggler. Only major thing I did differently was surround the whole ramp with those circle-cut-out boxes, dug into one layer just like in the video. Z's taking my existence personally I guess.
Did you leave at least a space at the front end of the ramp without the circle cut out block? Otherwise like said in the video they will rather find an alternate route to you so you can surround the ramp on the side but not at the front.
@@MaTweedy Yes. FireSpark is very clear on keeping the front open, so I did, too. The only thing he said didn't matter was how many of those Cube 1M Hole blocks surround the sides, so I encircled the sides and the back.
Hey man, a bunch of the blocks you say to use aren't available in the game. Are you sure they aren't ONLY selectable when you're playing creative? As one example "plate" does not exist. Kind of makes your entire guide useless, unless I'm missing something?
It's not super intuitive the first time, but once you learn how to open up the menu there are a ton of options. I think you hold "R" for the menu to appear.
there are actually lots of different plates, try searching PLATE under the square shapes. Hold down R to select the shape and you can also select the color, so you can make concrete look like rusted metal or wood.
If you are playing on PC, hold the frame in your hand, and hold "R", a wheel will appear with several different options, click on the one that allows you to change shape, and there are a bunch of shapes you can pick by searching or switching categories. If you are playing on Console, I have no idea how to access the menu.
@@grumpynomad3551 Boooooooring. Properly prepared for, horde night is the single biggest XP jump available. I wanna gain 3-5 levels in a night, not sit around hoping the zeds don't bring down the house around me. We're here to KILL zombies, not sit around watching them bloody their knuckles on concrete.
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Decent video, I've been a fan of yours for a while from other games, but as a 7 days veteran (close to 2000 hours) I have a few corrections/additions to share with my fellow viewers.
1. The orientation of the ladders do not affect their use, only front and back. So having the front of the ladders facing out, as you have on the top row of ladders, means the zombies can climb/cling to them.
2. The single pole block does not stop zombies in their crawling animation from getting through, you need the pole double block or something similar. It is not as much as a problem as it was, as in 1.0 the zombies don't seem to be going into their crawling animation as much as they were, but an unexpected zombie just bypassing your defenses without you expecting it could vary well mean death.
3. The side plating is good, but instead of the plate corners along the edge of the ramp, use the "Catwalk V2 corner", the one with no railing. When on it's side in that orientation the zombies do not see it as a path so the will go around it and not get stuck on the side of your ramp. It does what you are putting the 1m hole in for, but without the downsides.
4. Lose the hole blocks in early game. You do not want them where zombies normally path around them, as one will eventually get stuck and possibly start digging. A single zombie digging under your base can collapse the whole thing in a single hoard night. Only use them where you don't want zombies pathing around, or if you have it on top of at least concrete blocks, or a pit they can climb out of.
5. Zombies will not path to a 2 block gap for ladders. So leave your bottom 2 ladders off, and you can jump onto your ladder without having to pick it up or break it every time.
6. Zombie will absolutely attack dirt blocks if they are in destroy area mode from taking fall damage.
7. The fall distance of 11 blocks is the magic number to not enter destroy area mode when they take fall damage. The safer standard is 15, because zombies often fall on top of other zombies which, and this gives a buffer incase that happens so they do not enter destroy area mode.
8. Destroy area mode means the zombie no longer attempts to path to the player, instead looking to destroy any block underneath or supporting the player it is targeting.
9. Electric fences are OP.
Love the content. Hope this helps out some survivors. Enjoy :)
Yes to #9. I'll move the staircase back and add a walled platform with 3.2 metric tons of electric fences..
Just completed night 70 with this base design on my solo world. Thank you so much!! Base was upgraded to steel and took a demo to the face just fine. I'm in the process of copying it on our multiplayer server now and can't wait to see how it stands up to a real horde!
How did it fair in multiplayer?
Just wanted to say thank you!
This is genuinely the first horde base that actually worked. I have a couple hundred hours, but my hoard bases (without watching yt) would suck. Typically, most of the zombies would just attack my horde base, while only a couple would reach me... THANK YOU
Works like a charm. Thank you!
Only change I would do is add a bigger hole in the ceiling to shoot the vultures. Or place a turret up there to manage the birds.
After playing this game for almost 500 hrs (only started around alpha 19 i believe) this is a good starter base but probably wont last into late game. I get it may work out for some but a lot can go wrong. There are a few things to know about the AI. They always try to find the easiest most direct path to you. So making the ramp and not leaving it as blocks they have to jump lets them overwhelm the front bar at later horde nights. That is one change i would make if you are brand new to the game. Second thing to know is if a zombie falls a distance of 13 blocks down from you they wont go into destroy everything mode. So 13 is a magic number to prevent this. Third cops and other ranged zombies can shoot through the gap as it isnt the best anti zombie block around. My 2nd horde night i had a steel center block and it was almost destroyed with just normal cops showing up on normal settings. (I play with 300% exp and loot but default difficulty which plays out well as i level fast and find equivalent loot as i go) . A lot of what makes a horde base the best is usually durability. This cant be a forever base as it is inside a poi and the poi will take damage and could collapse over time. An emphasis story in the community from alpha 21 was a group built a base in dizhong tower just to have zombies cause the skyskraper to collapse mid horde night lol. This base is good for maybe up to mid game. When you get end game you want things automated with a killing corridor. Last alpha my base was underground with a killbox above ground. It had a 3 layer defense with plenty of auto turrets. As a solo that is the only way to really handle hordes late game. Ok for starting out.
Tip that works for me: instead of making it 3x2 i usually leave only the middle part (1x2). I do this so i prevent cops from around the base to see me and snipe me from miles away. They can see me only when they climb the stairs:/ladder.
13 blocks high (or 13 away from you, horizontally) is the limit for "Destroyeverything" mode! Its also a good idea to make pyramid stairs/ramps to help zombies get onto the ramp (although those Circle blocks are a new discovery)
I second the pyramid stairs at the bottom. Tried many other ways to prevent them from hitting on the sides, but the pyramid stairs always worked for several alpha version and still does in V1.0. Blocks like the cube hole tend to get reworked by TFP once they realize they can get abused.
There is a timer on how long they have to get to within 13 blocks and still enter destroy everything. Best thing if you are going to have them drop is to force them to path longer so that destroy everything times out
@@pApA0LeGBa You can also you the Triangular Catwalk wedge plates (forget their exact name) on the sides instead, those blocks Aren't pathable and will force the zombies to go around it! Also looks good asthetically!
@@mikeriley2475 I came here to say that. I've been using them the past few alphas with no issues. I wish I could remember who pointed that out, to give credit.
@@weldabar I learned of those Triangular Catwalk plates from Temreki from Guns Nerds and Steel (I am unaware of anyone else whos pointing those out)
also a really fun thing to do and is op, is to build a extra platform one block on the side of the ramp and put a robotic sledge turret watch it launch zombies plus it needs no power so can keep going. Put the weighted mod and flame helps with dps also.
But the point is to farm exp
3:36 probably good idea to add panic hatches for each ladder (6 in total) so in case both layers get destroyed you can just pop a hatch up and use the remaining ladders
The hole blocks at the bottom of the ramp is actually pretty smart; I never thought to try that.
I'll be trying this out on my third horde. I just crafted my first robotic sledge to make the zombies' tightrope walk more exciting. 😉
the block to remember is the cube 1m hole to protect the beginning of the ramp. the rest is a basic mele base with a height of 11-12 blocks for the fighting position.
One point you did not mention: The higher tier POI you use to build your horde base, the better the loot you will have after horde night since you will be standing in a POI that raises the loot stage when you open up the loot bags.
loot has nothing to do with POI's loot stage is determined by biome and your game stage, harder biomes give higher loot stage drops.
ie.. you might be loot stage 30 in green biome, but in wasteland your game stage would be say 50. this also affects loot bag drops.
@@michaelvial125 It does. Biome raises overall loot stage but a loot bag that drops inside a 1 skull forest biome POI will have less/worse loot than a bag that drops inside a 4 skull forest biome POI and it's determined upon opening said loot bags.
The rage mode distance of 11 isn't just vertical, it's also horizontal.
In short, if you push the top of the ramp more than 11 block from where you stand and melee, you'll stop the zeds from reaching the top of the ramp and start bashing the ramp before running across the pole to your position.
I hope I explained it well enough for it to make sense.
Whatever you do or make, if you run into problems with zeds reaching your height but they start bashing your structure before running forward to you; it's rage mode and just remember 11 blocks.
TFP is absolutely going to fix this AI glitch 100%
Great vid. Even though I have 5200 hours on steam and 2k hours on PlayStation pre A16, I thought it was very informative, and found a useful tip that I want to use to try and mix up the standard 11 blocks high to deal with rage mode.
Ladders can be left up they just need to be the 3rd block off the ground. Meaning 2 blocks with no ladder or something for the zombies to step on. And if you do that they will totally ignore the ladder. And you can still jump to get on it even with no parcor.
It does need to be at least 2 blocks away left or right from a wall. If it is closer the AI says beat the wall to make a step, then get on ladder and climb
I’ve been playing 7 days from late alpha 14 onward, and I always found it so exciting to learn the mechanics of zombies on horde nights and build bases/defenses around said mechanics. A lot has changed and some that didn’t.
People are bringing up the demos, for me, I actually like to test the limits, if my base takes a beating we’ll then I just repair it and it actually gives me stuff to do. Playing single player well into high game stages can sometimes get a bit stale. I know for myself personally, I don’t want to just sit around all night and be in a base so indestructible that I’m just twiddling my thumbs. At its core, it’s a game that’s about fighting zombies & looting, when you find/craft the best of the best loot, and that part is not as much of a hunt anymore, well then at least let’s keep fighting hordes challenging, spicy & interesting. Lol.
Back in alpha 14/15, we had no electric traps, spike traps & barbed wire lol, and my pillar bases used to get quite a beating. Again, I’m just speaking personally, if my base does take a beating, we’ll I have 7 in game days to repair it, while my forges and workbenches/mixers/chem stations & mining are essentially my new “looting.” It’s all good.
I agree completely!! The thrill of things possibly falling apart is what keeps this game the most fun for me! I have only been playing for about 6 months, so I can't imagine how it would be to have as much experience as you! I live for the fear/thrill so I hope there's always ways to keep things interesting!
There are mods out there that make the entire game WAY, WAYYYY!!!!! HARDER. I dont think this base would last past the 3rd bloodmoon in these mods, im serious. I find myself running away a lot, completely desperate to reach something high, as they completely collapse anything I am in at some point and it is just scary. I love it
2 horde nights so far, works well. only difference is I've built it up 11+ blocks in height (someone recommended it to avoid zombies going into rage mode).
I take over a 2-3 story building, make sure there is no access to the roof except ladders on the outside I built that start 3 blocks high off the ground. perfect non-moon base. for the moon night, i find a 10-12 story building, secure the roof, again, destroy all access to the roof. Then ride out the blood moon in relative peace. come morning, they loose their super power, run down kill the blood horde and go on about playing. it's about surviving the night, not killing your way through it.
Speak for yourself; my goal for horde night is to see how many levels I can gain in a single night. My horde bases always end up as a shooting gallery. If you just sit on top of a tall structure, you're betting on the zoms not doing enough damage to collapse it out from under you...and that only works for so long.
@@therealbahamut you can do the same with mine...10-12 story building. but I can make more EXP mining in a few game hours than a whole night of waves of zombies.
@@toetag434 Now see, to me, that just means you're not doing horde night right XD
But if it works for you, keep on truckin'.
Love it, FireSpark81! The straight ramp is simpler than most base builds I've seen. They usually do some 90’ angles and strange pipe walks to the fighting doors…
You could do that, bend this Easy to fit into an Alleyway next to almost any building in town. So this is portable.
You could put a 90’ turn in it as needed. Turn it into an infinite drop loop, which it almost is as you show.
Easy to dig & reinforce your pit to delay them for grenades, etc...
Easy to start with a few upright cube stacks if resources are scarce for horde #1, then fill in.
The full wall build underneath allows for many zoms to beat on it all night and it will stay up.
Easy to upgrade to cobble, cement, and beyond as the cycles progress. Nice.
Great, simple, flexible, adaptable, portable. Love it.
That's how a FireSpark do!
Saw this video two days ago and figured I'd give it a go for the day 21 horde. It certainly did the job, although the loot bags despawning before the night is through sucks. All in all, I'd say it's good for anyone completely new to the game.
There is a mod you can get for that, pretty simple stuff.
It's called "Not Just for the Night - 7 Days to Die Mods".
@Rrraaayyyy Thank you for the reply, but I'm on console, so no mods for me, unfortunately.
@@Shaddra666 Aaah i see, yeaah... hopefully the devs address that at some point.. like change the bag timers so they don't despawn as fast.
Turn your day cycle back to 1/2 hour for the bloodmoon night instead of 1 hour days. Then just switch it back
No idea the block with the hole tampered with the zombies pathing. Thanks for the tip!
Np. Hopefully you find it helpful. It's so funny to me that they hate it so much they will walk the longest possible path if it means they dont have to cross it. I'm sure lots of fun can be had with it for sure.
@@Firespark81 I am sure it will be patched but you could do a maze at ground level and have a lot of fun with the design.
Strongly worded title. I would confidently put my "best" horde base against any on youtube. And it's not cheese, and designed for optimized XP and minimized repair.
Day 7000 insane-nightmare is just an XP & loot farm, and you won't even need much repair mats. The problem with that horde base, is that it actually trivializes horde nights to such an extent, that it kinda breaks the game.
But this is a very solid night 7-21 horde base. maybe somewhat higher with some material upgrades. And a great intro to solid horde base design.
Demos will be a bit problematic with this, but that's a later-game problem.
(personally, I'd spike the roof instead of making a portal to get vultures. And later replace with turrets. Later game vultures spit, so you don't want to give them line of sight. Even if they can't spit through that block type, they'll try, and that's an upkeep cost. But even at early gamestage, they give bad XP & loot per second, so it's fine to automate the removal of vultures.)
I like the plate and point idea. I normally just double the scaffolding ladders with door trim on fighting window.
I know a 7dtd'er (not a YTer btw, just a player) who loves to build and paint things. He is always plating POIs and using rusty steel for the outside.
Didnt watch but wanted to say Figuring out the best horde base is one of the great joys and challenges of this game. id recommend not spoiling the game for yourself
Your so real for that
100000 million percent, it is why I have to play with crazy hard mods now to bring back the dread of a bloodmoon
With the buried supply quest i tend to dig the cardinal directions to pin point the spot. also taking treasure hunter helps a great deal too less time spent digging.
The dude turned into slim shady for a moment. 6:23
I've been making horde bases like this one for a couple years now, although I use doors as a walkway instead of the pole pyramid shape so that I can open it to drop the zombies down whenever I want a reprieve from fighting. It is more space for the zombies to stand on, but that just means I can hit more zombies with my melee weapon.
Great build. I was looking for something to show me how to make the shooting/melee platform and this did just that. Thank you
Huge like and subscribe for this. I'm a new player. I played a very little pre 1.0 and didnt really learn the ropes enough to get to my first horde night. Now that Ive learned how to be a bit more effective i was trying to figure out how i was going to deal with a horde night and this is perfect. I really appreciate the tip. I really just wanted an effective way to tide me over until I can let my creativity shine and this did that perfectly. Thank you.
Just finished my 49 day with ur trap works lovely brilliant video thx…
My friends and i ended up clearing an entire block around a hotel. We made a killbox in the middle of the street for our shotgun brawler, built our base on top of the motel with easy jumpoff access for our SMG guy, and walled an area off around a water tower as the sniper. Add in copious spike traps, and we've been splitting the horde three ways making it significantly easier
They will 100% collapse that water tower, it happened to me lol with the same setup
Honestly I'd change the title to early game horde base because once demo zombies show up that base is gonna get destroyed real quick if you accidentally hit his bomb
Not if you dont hit them and if you upgrade it to steel its fine. Steel can take a few demo hits. Heck the concrete can take 2 hits from them.
Right but people panic and make mistakes especially if your new
True or they get trigger happy like me. Just finished a horde night, blew up another one lmao. Luckily I upgraded to cement. So it took it like a champ. I really gotta calm my baton smackin down. 🤣
@@Firespark81 silly
You can’t get some of those advanced building shapes in early game
New zombie Ai states that if they you are less than 11 blocks above the zombies, they gain a new AI pattern called "Destroy Everything - Has Path." This is to prevent you from just having a platform above you. Adjust the horde base accordingly.
Is this why some times when I jump on a car they just ignore me and start destroying random crap? Is this data in one of the XML files?
so does that mean you have be above 11 blocks high from the ground? What happens then?
@@silverbird425yeah if you’re at least 11 blocks high they won’t go into that rage mode, they’ll just stay normal and try to take the path up to you. If you’re not 11 high they will go into the rage mode and just destroy whatever they see for the most part.
@@Firespark81 This change in AI was demonstrated in a recent Jawoodle video. I'm not sure how it would apply to your base (more testing needed).
@@Firespark81 Or if you jump on a fence quick and then jump off they'll still just be going ham on the fence.
I just dig down and make a horde base in the ground. The zombies come down the shaft built and it's very easy picking them off. Works fine until demo guys which can explode the whole thing.
Bub zombies can dig in 7 days to die, seems like a great way to make your whole base into a crater.
Did you just say preferencing?
Good variations & guide on one of the more popular horde base concepts. I didn't know about using the hole blocks on the ground to deter zombies from slapping the ramp (though I've rarely had mine take much damage anyway). After the first few horde nights, this will need some additional plates to keep cop zombies from seeing you from the ground and destroying your exposed electric fence posts with spit.
Yeah, I think I would just move each of the fence posts as far from the walkway pole as possible and make a hole in the wall for repairs. Would also prevent the fence from being blown up.
Yea tons of little tweaks and edits one can make to the design. I just wanted to teach new people this core concept and hopefully help a few people.
As stated in another comment already, i would rather go with pyramid stairs on the bottom. The hole cube might work for a while, but as this is basically glitch abusing, there is a high chance that the devs will fix it. We had several different blocks that you could abuse and they all got fixed. The pyramid stairs do work for several years now and won´t get changed as you use them as intended. Still great video.
>High chance
This is Fun Pimps we're talking about here, take it easy.
@@tartarsauce65I have seen several blocks fixed over the years that took advantage of zombie AI or pathing glitches with certain blocks and it was usually fixed in the next version. The pyramid stairs don´t use any pathing issues or glitches. They work like intended and use the intended zombie pathing. Would you rather use something that will work as it should or do you want to be surprised during horde night when a glitch abuse doesn´t work anymore?
easy quick Tutorial! huge help. thanks for the tips in between! gonna have a lot of fun with this. thanks. Subbed
I just make a 7x7 box on ground leaving one block in middle of each side open at chest height
I place a hatch in the opening and then I line the inside with sideways round ladder as an extra layer of defense.
The block space interior to the hatch I rotate a thin corner pole piece against.
Every side is double wall protected when the hatches are closed (and visible and in reach of repair) and Whichever hatch I open all the zombies run too.
When vultures are strong enough to worry about 2 turrets on top facing inwards solves that and demo dmg If they go off I’ll move to a new side by closing hatch and opening new one
Basically I can melee through to the late game as long as I keep up with repairs (tested ultra late with demos on insane albeit I just use the normal blood moon volume so if you crank the zombie numbers you will probably get overrun)
Having trouble understanding but going to try it. Maybe in combination with separate pits/traps so they run through different systems
This is awesome. Got my sub
Great video, this base can def grow with the player but is so good early game!!!! ❤
That base is only good for the first few hours nights. One demos show, one miss fire, and that base goes boom. I know from experience.
Like I told the others. 1 dont blow them up and 2 just upgrade to steel. Youll be fine. I know cause Ive used it with many demo showing up. They are no biggy. Well unless I get slap happy like you saw in the vid lol
I am told to set up SMGs to shoot them in the back. Seems like a lot of trouble.
Some friends and I have tried different variations of this tightrope-tower build for late stage horde night. FireSpark81 did say this is an easy early build, but let's roll with it.
Late stage we found 3 ramps converging up to the top at the start of the tightrope works well. We have tried up to 5 rampe, but anything beyond 3 ramps seems excessive for materials. We also create longer tightropes, usually 5 blocks span, and two tightropes in series so there is a center-platform where we place DPs/robosledge
We have had only 1 horde night where demo/cop explosions took out all 3 ramps! That sucked. 😅 I get trigger happy too!
Had a couple other nights where explosions took out 2 of 3 ramps. Most of the time, we lose none or 1.
Everything upgraded to steel; 3 blocks above ground, 2 block below ground, ramp, faces, and platforms. Everything else is done in concrete.
The pill box is big enough for 3 people side by side plus a storage/generator room in the back with escape hatch (bales of hay down below the rear escape).
We also use crown corner blocks instead of scaffolding ladders, as cops will not spit at you with crown corner blocks.
So imagine a ramp to the north, to the west, and to the south, and it can have legs/strut/pilon instead of solid wall for support. Also, supports need to be buried 2 or 3 blocks below surface so any cops who blow on the ground don't just undermine the structure. I usually make a 3x3 or 5x5 anchor pad below each pilon/strut/leg.
All that said, most of my team just decided to wing horde nights for fun. We literally just set the game to max difficulty, stand out in the streets, and run and gun the entire night yelling at each other like fools. Sometimes we die, and it's hella fun compared to fish in a barrel. Good hunting amigos!
I played a variation of this past day 200.
Building this now after trying to just wing it for our first 1.0 horde night and running into one of those insane af zombie dire wolves. Long story short... friend and I didn't survive our first horde night.
Bro i can relate so hard, i was too confident with my melee build and that dire wolve f me up so fast
Me too, there mean and tough
Many don't
Placing a ladder that you have to pick up later is pointless. Just use hatch/trapdoors on the side of the building instead. That way, the open lid should give you a platform to stand on, and you repeat this trick to make stairs that you can close behind you. You can also set up a tripwire system to close all the hatch doors for you when you get to the top. For the birds, those can be killed using spikes on the roof in early game and late game you can use a shotgun turret (you don't really need to put a hole in the roof). The problem with smaller pits is that some zombies explode (demo or cop). So, I usually dig to bedrock before digging a ramp leading out of the pit, and I also have several ladders as alternate ways out. When cops fall they run toward a way out, but if hurt enough they will pop within seconds. So, having them run toward the ramp you made is not ideal since if the ramp goes the animals start to dig (animals can not use the ladders). That is why I installed the ladders and made them come up in a spot closer to my base than the spot I have the ramp end to make it more appealing for zombies who can use ladders due to being/staying closer to the target players.
This is the most effective design but once you get alot of cops and demos you should build your own base with this design and have 2 sides mirrored. The cops and demos will eventually tear the house apart from explosion and spits because the base and walls of houses are weak. If you use the door strat instead of the pyramid pole, you can open the door to make the zombies fall and prevent demos explosions to destroy your ''cage''. By building 2 sides, you leave one path accessible and if anything goes wrong you just open the door and switch to the other side.
I'm on game stage 200 something in one of my playthroughs and have yet to have demos or cops break through. You just need to upgrade the material and dont blow up the demos lol. Cops really are not an issue at all. Heck I feel like they nerfed them at some point before 1.0.
As deep a pit you can dig 5 squares wide line inner walls with spikes. A simple and effective horde stopper. Thay get trapped in the pit and cant get out die on the spikes or as you take your time and motov them or just plink at them with your bow or gun.
If you play on the easiest difficulty, sure. Anything else and the spikes will get destroyed in no time then the zombies dig their way out of the pit.
My biggest issue with spikes and other such traps is you don't get the exp from kill. Which is kinda dumb cause you do for all the electric traps but not spikes.
Excellent video.
Thanks for explaining the WHY
Amazing! Thank you so much!!! ❤
Lol,you made my base 😂
This is amazing! Thank you
Would have helped if you'd show where to find these shapes. I cant find half of them
On ps5, you hold the reload (square) to bring up shapes. Xbox would be x.
If I still had my old PS3, I could possibly show you my old pyramid pit killarena. It was insane. 😂
Cool and easy base idea.😊 More like these..
Thanks for posting
Find a hill, dig a tunnel, block yourself in.. survive any horde night
maybe you`re right regarding horde night one on lowest settings... please let us know your further experience, and good luck! 😉
@@shee1313 gone past day 28 on default settings.. If the tunnels deep enough they run out of time before getting to ya
You can start digging on the afternoon of horde night and be safely tucked away by 10pm
from my experience it become my grave
@@jakkrit6910 I dig diagonally down around 15ish in a hill single file.. level out for a little. Then fill in the front with maybe 5 pairs of 2 stacked. Pop an iron door near the deep end. Then the horde come and as they get near, back up and repeat how you need. So far.. it's taking them too long, and there's always a little pew pew over the door at the end of needed. Sounds a lot but isn't.
I cannot find "Pole side centered pyramid" in my shape menu :(
It's under the Wedge shape, at the top-left of the 4th page of wedges. :)
Cool variations FireSpark81, and I like how you use a pre-existing Poi to save early game resources. 🤔That's smart!
I will have to try that electric fence idea, too. 😶🌫 I was shocked.. to see how well that worked. 😉
Me and a friend made this. Dont think we had the right house tho it wasnt the best layout but it worked for day 7 on Insane difficulty
The original concept was based to make a better game than minecraft, with better graphics. That was the initial thought!
thanks for the tips!
Before current update the ramp above to push them off doesn't push them off, they seem to be able to crawl and bash it.
? I'm confused. They slide off just fine for me.
nice one, thanks!
Ik im a little late lol great horde base design imma definitely use it I do recommend you say how mich materials youll need to build yhe basic design
Thank you!
I built a scaffolding fence around my base on its side and I saw a zombie climb the ladder, so that theory is out.
gotta put that ladder two blocks up so you can only reach it by jumping; zoms can't jump for ladders.
Thanks!!
Have you tried putting spikes in the pit, or does it sound like more trouble than it’s worth?
@@watchyoprofamity1235 Zombies would take less fall damage if they land on the spikes.
@@SweetLeavesXbox1 Good point. Just trying to think of more ways to make extra use out of the pit.
@@watchyoprofamity1235 I just help people who are unfortunate enough to still play 7D2D. It's pure fking trash but you'll find that out sooner or later.
But, zombies will go into what people call a "rage mode" and start attacking your base if they fall sometimes. If you inflicted any kind of damage, (kinda like spike or I use a turret) The zombies will instantly end Rage Mode and continue trying to get to you. So spikes is a good idea but on the ramp side. Not where the zombies fall at 👍
@@watchyoprofamity1235 I saw JaWoodle build a grenade chute into his firehouse. So you can drop a grenade into the pit when a few fall at once, and get your made kills in too?
And/or build a side door to your combat room, to step more clear to toss a Molly to light them up. Must have cobble or better Everywhere down there for that tho…
Making it a deeper pit with more large square blocks for them to have to jump up, will delayed longer for grenades to get more at once…
@@SweetLeavesXbox1you have to be really unhappy with your life if you stick to vids about a game you supoosedly don't even like. If it's pure trash for you, just move out and close the door, keep your fake feeling of superiority for supposedly not playing it for yourself.
question, how well does this base fare against cops and cop spit, my base was almost identical to this one and it got obliterated by the stuff
You can put those scaffolding ladders in the middle row there too, you can attack through them, they'll block a good portion of cop spit
Thank you good sir
Thank you alot
preferencing??? prefacing maybe
This is definitely effective, but the easiest horde base by far is the 2-3 block high wall surrounding a POI.
Please explain?
I have to ask the same question as @Firespark81 Just putting a wall up around a POI will only slow the zombies for maybe a minute, they will use their sledgehammer hands to melt a hole in the wall and then all zombies will prefer to path through that hole for the rest of the night.
@@Firespark81 The easiest horde base is standing on top of the walls of a POI and shooting the zombies from there, because there's 0 set-up required, and it's sufficient to handle at least the first 2 horde nights.
Oic. Eh that can be tricky and you need a lot of ammo. But yea it can work
Thank you 🙏
what do you do about incoming arrows?
do you think they will get the Mongol Horde joke?
Stand behind Mulan? Her plot armor will save you.
Can you make the simplest base to not just survive horde night but how to loot all the zambies as well?
Pick a POI especially the pig farm one where hogzilla lives, strafe from roof to roof with a lot of barbed wire around the bottoms and taking out any blocks that they can jump on to get on the roof. They will eventually bust through the roof but it's a start for the first few bloodmoons, or just a random POI that you go on the roof while taking out the stairs, lasts for the first few
@@rocksteady9826 when zombies drop bags to they always stay until the morning, when you can go loot them safely.
I'm missing some of these blocks, specifically the small slope trim in front of the fighting slit and the pyramid point. Is this something which unlocks with a magazine or skill?
There’s multiple pages for each shape category in the building blocks. Try pressing L or R or left to right while on the building block selector page
Will putting spike traps in the pit interfere with zombies finding the path?
As far as i know, no. Even better making them take damage after a fall will just cancel their rage so they wont just go nuts and hit your base.
works till the demos start showin up. I wouldn't call this the most effective base though it's still pretty "expensive" vs some other starters that can get you just as far I personally don't even prepare for the first horde until the start of the 7th day lol
This works just fine even with demos. I know because I use it all the time and I get lots of demos. Just don't blow them up just like with any hoard base lmao.
Do some of them go off the rails and start attacking the rest of the house?
So long as you don't leave your fighting position and wander around, no.
Now i wish you made a update build of this whit electric pieces. Wire, turret, turret pushes.
One question the zombie take the fall damage or not thank you for your answer and sorry for my english
need to fall more than 13 blocks to take fall damage
@@Pantifaximile ok thank you
I think 13 blocks is the sweet spot
Oops 12 blocks
yes but falling alone wont be enough to kill em usually, even if it's to bedrock. Early in this games life the base meta was a pit to bedrock with spikes at the bottom while u sat in basically a cage of steel/cement.
I’ve been trying to find “shapes” for days and nothing is showing up not even Iin creative that 1m hole cube isn’t showing up and I’m on Xbox
You first craft the block, then when you're about to place it hold X as though you were changing ammo. You can then select what shape you want it.
@@nexttolegendary I never knew that thank you!
You're a scholar an a saint ive been trying to figure this out lol and I've accidentally stumbled upon you answering my question lol
Can i use this base for the entire game? I had zombies try to break into the basement at the end of the second week, i assume i can just upgrade to concrete at the bottom and be fine? I want to minimize chances that they'll try to break in after they fall into the pit.
I dont think this is 1.0 in the video but if your keeping your loot here I personally wouldnt, as he said, they can and will eventually collapse the house so youd lose all your stuff
I have a question can i also live on the top floor of that house? or it is too risky?
I would never store my loot in a horde base, just the thought of losing everything is unfathomable.
You could live in a nearby house on an upper level. Just remove all access to the upper floor their too. If they are close enough you can built a walkway, just leave two blocks open or put a door on it's side. The door has to be oriented the right way so when it is open you can walk over it. I build two pretty identical structures one is my hoard base and one is my crafting base. Attach them with a short walkway that has a door on it's side. On hoard night close the door so you can't walk over it. As long as the zombies don't think they are connected they won't attack the crafting base. As always test everything before hoard night. :)
do people make seperate bases for horde night and regular bases (loot storage, forges, etc)
Most do at least until they can make a strong combo base. Early on it can be too much to try and build both in one, and it's a big risk to do horde where all your loot is
Early on you can just stack some boxes on the street and nerd pole up a light pole at night to stay away and safe from zombies
You could build in town where one building is your Stark Industries crafting factory, then run a block bridge across the street or even farther to your impenetrable horde base of Last Standage…
Absolutely. You don't want the hordes spawning at your nice home you've been decorating; you want them spawning at your meat grinder.
@@therealbahamut yeah learned that the hard way on day 14 lol
This is Jawoodle's design, I think.
It's been around for so long it's hard to tell. Ive been using slightly modified versions of it to keep up with the AI for many years now.
I pretty sure he got the basics from someone else. I used to watch 7dtd YTers doing this before he was a YTer though he seemed to the noisist about this base design.
The original concept was probably posted by someone on Reddit or something. It's also not hard to just figure it out on your own. My and my friend have been making different bases to screw with zombie pathing for many years now. This is just the simplest design.
Is this base good even on insane mode
yes
You don't even need to do a ramp just knock a hole through each floor and shoot down at them. I've used a three story wooden house and have done that - up to day 63 now. I did upgrade some of it to concrete - the floor and a few walls. But they seem to just wander around down there and only attack block to get inside. Using the Jacobs residence but I used another one with one of those towers and that worked well too. Just really any big three story will work. If you're in a two story they'll beat all the blocks out to collapse it.
No problems with cops or demos?
Gg bro.
All i want to know is how do you get INTO the base once its closed up like that? You deleted all access to the attic in the 1st 60 seconds 😆
He did say you can use the ladder that you can pick up after
Bro..
he did actually answer that question in the video.
He mentioned that you can make ladders and then pick them up after you so zombies can't get up. I use max parkour skill so no ladders are needed.
Parkour level 2
This is most effeftive horde base design. First rule of 7DTD horde base: "When you allow more than three zombies constanly bang into your fighting position, you are dead man". Especially first horde night with lack of ammo, stamina and stone axe as repair tool.
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@robwill9339 perhaps make some popcorn, push your keyboard out of reach, and just enjoy the video ;)
playing 1.0 but dont have the pyramid block?
@supnigt It's hiding, ya got try in search type "pyramid" BUT make sure "Wedge" is selected on the left. I hope this helps.
@@warhawkbm yup thanks. just had to figure out the search bar. stupid search only searches within a category instead of all.
Think I can set one of these in a industrial tank? Or maybe in a church?
Many different structures can work. Look for a clean side as he described, and few vertical access routes you have to demolish. Knocking out a bunch of 5000 hp steel ladders with a stone axe isn't fun. Check the durability of the ground level blocks. Some are painted to look like metal or concrete but are actually just wood or 1200 hp stone.
But this looks good
Just had my first horde night with this exact setup and it did not go well. 90% of the enemies tried to come around behind me, through two iron doors and up a 3-story ladder that no longer existed because i broke it before nighttime, rather than run up the ramp.
I ended up breaking through the center railing and standing on top of the ramp in the open, firing my shotgun to try to lure them to me and killing the occasional straggler.
Only major thing I did differently was surround the whole ramp with those circle-cut-out boxes, dug into one layer just like in the video.
Z's taking my existence personally I guess.
Did you leave at least a space at the front end of the ramp without the circle cut out block? Otherwise like said in the video they will rather find an alternate route to you so you can surround the ramp on the side but not at the front.
@@MaTweedy Yes. FireSpark is very clear on keeping the front open, so I did, too. The only thing he said didn't matter was how many of those Cube 1M Hole blocks surround the sides, so I encircled the sides and the back.
@@gregariousjb I don;t think this is 1.0 I dont see any direwolfs but could be wrong
Great
Hey man, a bunch of the blocks you say to use aren't available in the game. Are you sure they aren't ONLY selectable when you're playing creative? As one example "plate" does not exist. Kind of makes your entire guide useless, unless I'm missing something?
yes they are all available just got to search for the name he mentions. click the icon above the box to find plate in search basic shapes menu
It's not super intuitive the first time, but once you learn how to open up the menu there are a ton of options.
I think you hold "R" for the menu to appear.
there are actually lots of different plates, try searching PLATE under the square shapes. Hold down R to select the shape and you can also select the color, so you can make concrete look like rusted metal or wood.
If you are playing on PC, hold the frame in your hand, and hold "R", a wheel will appear with several different options, click on the one that allows you to change shape, and there are a bunch of shapes you can pick by searching or switching categories. If you are playing on Console, I have no idea how to access the menu.
Console ps5 hold square button down to get to shapes menu
idk how ppl can play like this tbh. I mean arent the blood moons the best feature of the game?
Yeah...but dying during one isn't so great.
I hide in a poi on hoard nights. I just sit on the second floor and remove the stairs.
@@grumpynomad3551 Boooooooring. Properly prepared for, horde night is the single biggest XP jump available. I wanna gain 3-5 levels in a night, not sit around hoping the zeds don't bring down the house around me. We're here to KILL zombies, not sit around watching them bloody their knuckles on concrete.