This is actually fantastic that you included Rublev Maya Blue because that’s one of the colors I’m eyeing right now because it’s the only premade indigo oil paint that isn’t a hue that I can find. I’m trying to recreate Vermeer’s palette as accurately as I can without needing to make the paints myself. This test made me feel better about its lightfastness since I read so much about its tendency to fade. I guess the clay really did help stabilize the pigment. How genius of Natural Pigments to do that. I assume it’s also quite permanent?
The ancient civilizations around the Mediterranean developed and used perfume primarily to mask the fishy odor of Tyrian purple dyed garments and robes. It has been described that this smell did not fade with age. The Roman elite (emperors, senators etc.) were among the last to dye garb cloth with royal Tyrian purple. With the fall of the Roman empire the early Catholic church adopted the royal purple color for bishops and cardinals garb. Eventually purple pigments ( no longer available) were replaced with Burgundy red royal garb which became associated with medieval royalty (kings and queens) of Europe. Coastal North Africa (Tunisia, Algeria, Libya) was the primary source of the murex snail harvesting. Shell middens or waste dumps are still found along this area. It's estimated it required around 12,000 or so snails to produce a thimble full of usable dye. As time went on throughout the ages its thought these garments became heirlooms handed down for generations.
Tyrian purple is lightfast. But this is not tyrian purple yet. You have to process the pigment with salt, and some other ingredients to make tyrian purple. You can't put the unprocessed version in the sunlight. You will transform the tyrian purple in "tekhelet" (similar to dark cerulean blue). But you can put the processed version. Part of my family is jewish from Israel, Syria and Morocco. These colors are sacred in judaism. We make these colors with very caution and care. We use only murex trunculus to make techelet and murex trunculus + murex bolinarius/brandaris to make the purple. These colors were in the garments of the cohen gadol (high priest) and in the veil of the temple.
Thank you for your contribution! I was unaware of this. I will look into it, as my research used Tyrian Purple powder as is without further preparation. Take care
@@wyald8890 they are much more professional than my brothers. But I dont know if they make purple. We made just for personal achievment, but they are totally professional. They sell products with the pigments of murex. Sorry about my english.
@@RyanDemaree yeah, I wanted to make an ink that was at least a good imitation for it. I just wanted to write in a nice purple like colour, since I am kinda new to colour theory.
If you mean a hue that is chemically different but looks the same I am not sure one commercially exists, although I have been toying with the idea of creating on and selling it along with my Mummy Brown reproduction oil paints. A synthetic version of Tyrian Purple exists I think but the powder is just as expensive as the genuine Tyrian I believe
I believe Ali baba? I can't remember. But a bulk order or chemist website should have it. It is same price as genuine Tyrian Purpe however, so there isn't much point.
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This is actually fantastic that you included Rublev Maya Blue because that’s one of the colors I’m eyeing right now because it’s the only premade indigo oil paint that isn’t a hue that I can find. I’m trying to recreate Vermeer’s palette as accurately as I can without needing to make the paints myself. This test made me feel better about its lightfastness since I read so much about its tendency to fade. I guess the clay really did help stabilize the pigment. How genius of Natural Pigments to do that. I assume it’s also quite permanent?
The ancient civilizations around the Mediterranean developed and used perfume primarily to mask the fishy odor of Tyrian purple dyed garments and robes. It has been described that this smell did not fade with age. The Roman elite (emperors, senators etc.) were among the last to dye garb cloth with royal Tyrian purple. With the fall of the Roman empire the early Catholic church adopted the royal purple color for bishops and cardinals garb. Eventually purple pigments ( no longer available) were replaced with Burgundy red royal garb which became associated with medieval royalty (kings and queens) of Europe. Coastal North Africa (Tunisia, Algeria, Libya) was the primary source of the murex snail harvesting. Shell middens or waste dumps are still found along this area. It's estimated it required around 12,000 or so snails to produce a thimble full of usable dye. As time went on throughout the ages its thought these garments became heirlooms handed down for generations.
Tyrian purple is lightfast. But this is not tyrian purple yet. You have to process the pigment with salt, and some other ingredients to make tyrian purple.
You can't put the unprocessed version in the sunlight. You will transform the tyrian purple in "tekhelet" (similar to dark cerulean blue). But you can put the processed version.
Part of my family is jewish from Israel, Syria and Morocco. These colors are sacred in judaism. We make these colors with very caution and care. We use only murex trunculus to make techelet and murex trunculus + murex bolinarius/brandaris to make the purple. These colors were in the garments of the cohen gadol (high priest) and in the veil of the temple.
Thank you for your contribution! I was unaware of this. I will look into it, as my research used Tyrian Purple powder as is without further preparation. Take care
@@wyald8890 they don't have a website, but you can check others, for exemple Ptil Tekhelet
@@wyald8890 they are much more professional than my brothers. But I dont know if they make purple.
We made just for personal achievment, but they are totally professional. They sell products with the pigments of murex. Sorry about my english.
Do you have blue powder one for sale? Is yes how much per gramm? Thank you
Where can i buy this?
I wonder if mixing a certain blue and red would make a consistent colour, (with white or grey)
Indigo and alizarin crimson make a nice Tyrian imitation
@@RyanDemaree yeah, I wanted to make an ink that was at least a good imitation for it.
I just wanted to write in a nice purple like colour, since I am kinda new to colour theory.
Do you know where I can find this color in a dye (artificial of course)?
I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you looking for genuine Tyrian Purple or an imitation?
Ryan Demaree artificial
If you mean a hue that is chemically different but looks the same I am not sure one commercially exists, although I have been toying with the idea of creating on and selling it along with my Mummy Brown reproduction oil paints. A synthetic version of Tyrian Purple exists I think but the powder is just as expensive as the genuine Tyrian I believe
Where can I find it
I believe Ali baba? I can't remember. But a bulk order or chemist website should have it. It is same price as genuine Tyrian Purpe however, so there isn't much point.