Honestly your neck repair was worth this alone! It plays better and tighter than when I bought it-killer job! And your finish repairs are barely noticable-especially on stage-excellent!! Thanks again-Dan
@@stevestevens1457 Even though they cost a lot of money, Abasi guitars are amazing lol... Tosin Abasi who is creator of this brand plays them in every song... And they're quite popular amongst guitarists...
@@ThePoohat what? WHAAAT? Bro you do crack? Abomination like abasi with an asian level quality vs a masterpiece Carillion and other top luthieries are? That’s not crack man, that’s straight fentanyl 😂
Cant imagine the feeling of dread I'd have if that was my guitar. These things are absurdly expensive. You did a great job! Thank god for luthiers man, lol
These Abasi guitars has had a lot of complaints about lacking overall quality control and being very fragile. I think it was the first few runs that had the most amount of problems, but I guess they are still not as good as they should be for a $2k guitar.
@@mantacoup definitely overpriced guitars, but I know that many are super happy with the quality of their guitars. The QC for guitars at this price point should be close to perfect though, so it's not acceptable that some are experiencing major issues with their guitars.
Yeah-this finish is an early run I believe. Ive read about all the crazy stuff with the first runs of these guitar-alot of shoddy workmanship on the early ones. I bought this used after I had bought a flat black one of the newer runs- I loved the black one-tightest feeling 8 string next to my Ibby prestige out if the 6 8's I own. So I was pumped to get this. But yeah-from day 1 it didnt feel like my black one. That said-his repair is perfect-it looks great-you have to look for the break to see it. And it feels like my orher one now! So in the end-worth it for me.
@@asimhussain8716 Yep. The Legion-series are about $2k, and those are the "budget" variants. The J-series and Master-series are even more expensive. Overpriced as hell.
@@CapraObscura The only guitar builder I can find named Falbo is someone who makes acoustic guitars. Did he really build the early Abasi guitars? I thought that the cheaper models had always been built in China.
This is a great repair. I noticed you are in Minn, have to keep that in mind as I need guitar refinished and the luthie down here in Iowa that I go to doesn't do them anymore.
I repaired a very similar body seperation. I clamped it with a ratchet strap with the ratchet on top to pull the body toward the front. I injected the glue ,into the finer parts of the crack, with a syringe. It worked very very well.
At $2000 I still felt that way when it fell-I was kneeling down when it dropped! I have an old Kramer that has been dropped neck first from standing and not even a crack! Given the give in the neck when I got it (used) I think it may have been dropped prior or a flaw on the body-regardless-I have 2 of these and was disappointed at its fragility. But Adam nailed the repair and it feels better than when I got it!
Hi Dan. What did you use to clean the epoxy from the finish? And how did you build up finish on the lower chip, super glue, poly or other thing? Great job ❤️🩹 Cheers 🍻🍻
The body of that guitar is made of alder and that wood isn't very hard with a janka rating of just 590 (for reference honduran mahogany is 900). That body was also obviously two pieces of wood glued but not of the same dimensions.
@CapraObscuraThe hardness of the wood has to do with the damage that took the guitar at the point of impact with the floor, which is what the reply was about to xdoctorblindx comment. Some reading comprehension there, eh?
Wow... That's pretty shocking to see a crack like that on such a small drop... There must've been a very weak piece in the wood already, further weakened by those screwholes. I've considered buying an Abasi before (love the shape!), but having seen this video I think I'll pass 🤣 I've repaired a solid alder body that was cracked pretty much the same way, including through the neck pocket. But thát one was dropped from a significant height though, about 1.8m straight on to a tiled floor... I fixed the neckpocket by drilling a few 1mm holes along the crack, then opening the crack just a hair and using a syringe to put watered-down woodglue as deep as I could get, until it came out of other areas when pressed together.
I really doubt this was dropped "just a foot" it looks like the one corner got smashed, hard, the shock likely was enough to cause the screws and pickup holes to crack as the crack starts from the 8th string saddle, all the way past the pickups, right to the neck joint, good repair job but I really doubt the owner is telling the full truth.
It did only drop maybe a foot. I was crouched down on one knee backstage with it strapped on me- about to put it in the case-strap gave while reaching for the case and it fell right on that low curve then flopped face down. I was shocked when i picked it up. Ive dropped guitars over the years from standing position or knocking one off a stand falling flat on its face-never had a break! The neck on this felt loose from the day I bought it used-i guessed it maybe was dropped before-that and the fact that the early runs have alot of bad comments about the craftsmanship online. But yes...sadly it did break on such a short fall.
@@gtrguy76 So I guess you're the owner of the guitar? I've only seen a Harley Benton bass break like that from a simple fall. And it sure was more than a foot drop - the dude that dropped it is 2.1 meters tall
Yes, I had just gotten off stage and was putting it away. Ive had many far worse drops over the past 40 years (I have over 50 guitars) and never ANY kind of break. Adam (the luthier in the video) suggested maybe a flaw in the body slab? Given the neck had movement in it prior (break went through neck screws too)I am sure some flaw/damage was there prior to the short drop. Just dumb bad luck I guess. My other black Abasi is solid as a rock so I had high expectations when I bought this used. But It plays great and looks great again-great repair! Though I favor my Ibby 8's again for some reason.....lol.
Not loose-more like a small give-hard to describe. I've played guitar 40 years-have 2 degrees in music-I know how a guitar should feel to me (obviously subjective to each player). This wasnt a "tighten a loose screw" thing. It was very minor yet noticible to me thing. I assure you I can turn a screwdriver. All screws were tight. Upon taking the guitar apart Adam said the neck screw holes were all too tight-which can cause that slight binding/give that I felt. Back to the shoddy workmanship on the early runs-but I bought it used so no recourse. I rarely have a drink these days-but a drunkin El Kabong would've been a better story-lol.
creo que la tiraron con fuerza ademas si se partio es porque es madera de verdad , cualquier guitarra que reciba un golpe asi se parte , si fuera mala madera no se rompe
Couple questions: what sort of epoxy was that? Does the hair dryer create a wicking effect, or does it prolong the workable time, or perhaps both? Thanks in advance, I’ve a similar crack in an old Warmoth body that’s been kicking around for a while, would like to stabilize it, but didn’t know the correct approach.
System 3 T-88. Definitely practice before attempting. The hair dryer warms the epoxy making it more runny/thinner. It will seep into the cracks and the dryer can push the glue as well. Must practice because you need to have a feel for the workable time or the epoxy will start setting up. Long cure only.
The owner claimed it dropping only a foot? I call absolute bullshit. I had guitars fall from 3 to 4 feet of height and nothing happening to them and those were relatively cheap, production line guitars. In addition to the crack in the body, one of the bridge pieces, that is BOLTED onto the body got freaking knocked loose and the way that neck pickup is just poking out of the body on one side. Mate, that was a lot of things, but it wasn't a one foot drop. Dude probably tried to be cool and swing his guitar around or whatever it was.
3 minutes in: Crazy idea I had. I would just break it in half, brush off the loose splinters, drill in some 10mm dowels, pour some starbond thick along the edges, brush some tb3 down the middle, kicker, clamps, mask the body save for a 20mm stripe over the crack, automotive primer, matte black appliance enamel. viola! It's easy, I highly doubt it will break again and I like the way it looks in my head. Worst case scenario, nobody is happy except me and thats fine because this is an imaginary scenario.
@@JasonLuther1anything that isn't a Les Paul or a Strat is pretentious. I think you must've missed the memo. They sent it to all dentists just last month.
I dont think it is. There are many articles online about the early Abasi guitar companies issues with his first partner/builder he used and how they had to part ways. My newer Abasi (which I bought brand new) was solid from day one.
Honestly your neck repair was worth this alone! It plays better and tighter than when I bought it-killer job! And your finish repairs are barely noticable-especially on stage-excellent!! Thanks again-Dan
Thanks. I'm planning a video just about mounting necks, and will use a clip I took of yours.
Please don’t buy these shit brands next time. For those prices, just save up a little bit more and get yourself a Carillion.
@@stevestevens1457 Even though they cost a lot of money, Abasi guitars are amazing lol... Tosin Abasi who is creator of this brand plays them in every song... And they're quite popular amongst guitarists...
abasi are nicer than Carillion to many of us... it turns out taste is subjective...
@@ThePoohat what? WHAAAT? Bro you do crack? Abomination like abasi with an asian level quality vs a masterpiece Carillion and other top luthieries are? That’s not crack man, that’s straight fentanyl 😂
This isnt even my guitar and i was overwhelmed with dread when i seen that crack, god bless luthiers!
In europe this guitar is 3000 euros. Lol. My japannese Ibanez, love you so much. Great job on repair, masterfull.
Cant imagine the feeling of dread I'd have if that was my guitar. These things are absurdly expensive.
You did a great job! Thank god for luthiers man, lol
It's crazy how much damage was done by such a small fall. I've thrown guitars on stage and never caused that much damage.
I think is because the tension of the strings.
@@thatoneguybones8036 It doesn't look like a nicely designed guitar.
It's so thin through the neck joint and the neck buts up against the top horn. It would have moved and levered it off.
That looked so brutal, I wouldn't have known what to do. We really do take wood glue for granted.
Wood glue is stronger than the wood will ever be 💪
Killer repair man. I hope this video blows up 🙌🙌
These Abasi guitars has had a lot of complaints about lacking overall quality control and being very fragile. I think it was the first few runs that had the most amount of problems, but I guess they are still not as good as they should be for a $2k guitar.
@@mantacoup definitely overpriced guitars, but I know that many are super happy with the quality of their guitars. The QC for guitars at this price point should be close to perfect though, so it's not acceptable that some are experiencing major issues with their guitars.
Yeah-this finish is an early run I believe. Ive read about all the crazy stuff with the first runs of these guitar-alot of shoddy workmanship on the early ones. I bought this used after I had bought a flat black one of the newer runs- I loved the black one-tightest feeling 8 string next to my Ibby prestige out if the 6 8's I own. So I was pumped to get this. But yeah-from day 1 it didnt feel like my black one. That said-his repair is perfect-it looks great-you have to look for the break to see it. And it feels like my orher one now! So in the end-worth it for me.
@@asimhussain8716 Yep. The Legion-series are about $2k, and those are the "budget" variants. The J-series and Master-series are even more expensive. Overpriced as hell.
@@CapraObscuraYes I believe so. One of those early runs.
@@CapraObscura The only guitar builder I can find named Falbo is someone who makes acoustic guitars. Did he really build the early Abasi guitars? I thought that the cheaper models had always been built in China.
Great work ! Love your approach and exicution of this job.
This is a great repair. I noticed you are in Minn, have to keep that in mind as I need guitar refinished and the luthie down here in Iowa that I go to doesn't do them anymore.
I would think its just fire wood at this point. You must be a magician.🍻
I repaired a very similar body seperation. I clamped it with a ratchet strap with the ratchet on top to pull the body toward the front. I injected the glue ,into the finer parts of the crack, with a syringe. It worked very very well.
that is such a clean body break
Such a well done job on such a beautiful guitar.
The fragility of these is pretty underwhelming. Glad I’ve never felt the urge to have one.
Very Nice work Well done!
I almost bought a pretty natural finish one of these a couple years ago...I really wish I had. Something really special about them to me
Dropped? Nah. He went Cobain on it.
Very entertaining to watch! Great job!
The lack of quality on this guitar is insane considering the price.
4k for a guitar and this is what happens when you drop it? ive fallen off skateboards with 200$ guitars that hit pavement that faired better
This is the $2k model, veneer top.
At $2000 I still felt that way when it fell-I was kneeling down when it dropped! I have an old Kramer that has been dropped neck first from standing and not even a crack! Given the give in the neck when I got it (used) I think it may have been dropped prior or a flaw on the body-regardless-I have 2 of these and was disappointed at its fragility. But Adam nailed the repair and it feels better than when I got it!
Veery nice work!
Hi Dan. What did you use to clean the epoxy from the finish? And how did you build up finish on the lower chip, super glue, poly or other thing?
Great job ❤️🩹
Cheers 🍻🍻
It's Adam, but I get that a lot. Wipe it off when clamped up to minimize the excess. Then just sand and buff.
Sorry there, I'm pretty new to your channel and followed a comment that referred to you as Dan.
Thanks for the answer 🤝🏻
Not a chance that was only dropped a foot based on the massive contact damage. Definitely feel from full standing height.
The body of that guitar is made of alder and that wood isn't very hard with a janka rating of just 590 (for reference honduran mahogany is 900). That body was also obviously two pieces of wood glued but not of the same dimensions.
@CapraObscuraThe hardness of the wood has to do with the damage that took the guitar at the point of impact with the floor, which is what the reply was about to xdoctorblindx comment. Some reading comprehension there, eh?
Its just a great repair but really its a design and build flaw. Deserves replacement IMO
Well done!
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I don't believe that this was dropped only a foot. Look at that dent
Thin neck pocket and 300 pounds of 7 string force . I'm surprised it didn't explode
Wow...
That's pretty shocking to see a crack like that on such a small drop... There must've been a very weak piece in the wood already, further weakened by those screwholes.
I've considered buying an Abasi before (love the shape!), but having seen this video I think I'll pass 🤣
I've repaired a solid alder body that was cracked pretty much the same way, including through the neck pocket.
But thát one was dropped from a significant height though, about 1.8m straight on to a tiled floor...
I fixed the neckpocket by drilling a few 1mm holes along the crack, then opening the crack just a hair and using a syringe to put watered-down woodglue as deep as I could get, until it came out of other areas when pressed together.
I really doubt this was dropped "just a foot" it looks like the one corner got smashed, hard, the shock likely was enough to cause the screws and pickup holes to crack as the crack starts from the 8th string saddle, all the way past the pickups, right to the neck joint, good repair job but I really doubt the owner is telling the full truth.
It did only drop maybe a foot. I was crouched down on one knee backstage with it strapped on me- about to put it in the case-strap gave while reaching for the case and it fell right on that low curve then flopped face down. I was shocked when i picked it up. Ive dropped guitars over the years from standing position or knocking one off a stand falling flat on its face-never had a break! The neck on this felt loose from the day I bought it used-i guessed it maybe was dropped before-that and the fact that the early runs have alot of bad comments about the craftsmanship online. But yes...sadly it did break on such a short fall.
@@gtrguy76 So I guess you're the owner of the guitar? I've only seen a Harley Benton bass break like that from a simple fall. And it sure was more than a foot drop - the dude that dropped it is 2.1 meters tall
Yes, I had just gotten off stage and was putting it away. Ive had many far worse drops over the past 40 years (I have over 50 guitars) and never ANY kind of break. Adam (the luthier in the video) suggested maybe a flaw in the body slab? Given the neck had movement in it prior (break went through neck screws too)I am sure some flaw/damage was there prior to the short drop. Just dumb bad luck I guess. My other black Abasi is solid as a rock so I had high expectations when I bought this used. But It plays great and looks great again-great repair! Though I favor my Ibby 8's again for some reason.....lol.
Not loose-more like a small give-hard to describe. I've played guitar 40 years-have 2 degrees in music-I know how a guitar should feel to me (obviously subjective to each player). This wasnt a "tighten a loose screw" thing. It was very minor yet noticible to me thing. I assure you I can turn a screwdriver. All screws were tight. Upon taking the guitar apart Adam said the neck screw holes were all too tight-which can cause that slight binding/give that I felt. Back to the shoddy workmanship on the early runs-but I bought it used so no recourse. I rarely have a drink these days-but a drunkin El Kabong would've been a better story-lol.
Great job!!!
wont be getting an abasi concepts. he dropped it and it just cracked down the middle like that? lol.. is that a mixture of plywood or something? D:
creo que la tiraron con fuerza ademas si se partio es porque es madera de verdad , cualquier guitarra que reciba un golpe asi se parte , si fuera mala madera no se rompe
Gogo unchained! 😄
Oh cool, where in Minneapolis are you located? My luthier has moved
I operate by appointment. My contact info is in the about section or just email me at info@millcitylutherie.com
Couple questions: what sort of epoxy was that? Does the hair dryer create a wicking effect, or does it prolong the workable time, or perhaps both? Thanks in advance, I’ve a similar crack in an old Warmoth body that’s been kicking around for a while, would like to stabilize it, but didn’t know the correct approach.
System 3 T-88. Definitely practice before attempting. The hair dryer warms the epoxy making it more runny/thinner. It will seep into the cracks and the dryer can push the glue as well. Must practice because you need to have a feel for the workable time or the epoxy will start setting up. Long cure only.
Do you mind sharing what wood glue you used? Any thinners involved?
awesome!
Is this a manufacturing issue or a piece of wood that never should have been used (which is a manufacturing issue)?
I'd say both. Really light weight wood, and the routes and some screws line up there.
KITTY!
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Too many screw holes all in a line along the grain?
The owner claimed it dropping only a foot? I call absolute bullshit. I had guitars fall from 3 to 4 feet of height and nothing happening to them and those were relatively cheap, production line guitars. In addition to the crack in the body, one of the bridge pieces, that is BOLTED onto the body got freaking knocked loose and the way that neck pickup is just poking out of the body on one side. Mate, that was a lot of things, but it wasn't a one foot drop. Dude probably tried to be cool and swing his guitar around or whatever it was.
3 minutes in: Crazy idea I had. I would just break it in half, brush off the loose splinters, drill in some 10mm dowels, pour some starbond thick along the edges, brush some tb3 down the middle, kicker, clamps, mask the body save for a 20mm stripe over the crack, automotive primer, matte black appliance enamel. viola! It's easy, I highly doubt it will break again and I like the way it looks in my head. Worst case scenario, nobody is happy except me and thats fine because this is an imaginary scenario.
Yeah that would work.
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Ha! I totally misread that and got defensive. I guess Im not as easy going as I implied, lol.
Sorry but that ding is definitely NOT from a 1 ft drop 😂
It absolutely is......sadly.....
Dropped a foot?🤔
I have my doubts
Great repair, very cool to watch. I would never buy an Abasi Guitar, overpriced for what they, even if this is the base model that is pretty poor.
Blush remover?
No way that much damage from dropping one foot maybe 3-4 foot
I cant help but think the pretentious body shape had a lot to do with the amount of damage it sustained.
Hmm, I didn't know pretentious was a shape.
@@JasonLuther1anything that isn't a Les Paul or a Strat is pretentious. I think you must've missed the memo. They sent it to all dentists just last month.
I don’t have Abasi but I believe it’s bit overpriced. I hope I’m wrong…
Remember kids, don't buy gimmicky crap!
Tosins guitar is not gimmicky
honestly not that drastic of a problem in a way lot of surface area to work with
hopefully this isn't a very common issue, kinda dissapointing if such a great guitarist is putting out mediocre guitars at that premium
@@CapraObscura you must not be a very happy person :)
I dont think it is. There are many articles online about the early Abasi guitar companies issues with his first partner/builder he used and how they had to part ways. My newer Abasi (which I bought brand new) was solid from day one.
Thought those were nice guitars. Never seen a guitar crack .i have seen many dropped
shame for this brand
nice work , crap guitar , but nice work
This is why he plays Music Man guitars now. These Abasi guitars are crap.....
Syringe my man … invest in some
Crap luthier didnt pin the laminates like a pro
If your ears worked, you would have heard this was a quick budget friendly repair
that is what you get for getting an 8 string!!! i am just kidding but i do think that any guitar with over 6 strings looks very ugly.