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Let's talk some "The Acolyte" (Episode 7) with Thor & Naboo
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The “unreliable narrators” for this series are in the writers room.
BINGO!
Yeah for sure.
🥇
lol, I don’t agree, but that is clever
"It's trying to set itself up as a puzzle box just to be a puzzle box ." - sounds just like the sequel trilogy.
Small correction, there no sequel trilogy in star wars, there was rumors of a fanfic project that get big dollars from Disney, but for lacking of proper writing it remains as fanfic.
The influence of JJ
@@AlessandroRodriguez ha! Fair enough.
Imagine if Spider-Man (2002) hinted at Uncle Ben's death for the first hour and forty-minutes. You, a savvy movie-goer, would think "hmmm...sounds like Uncle Ben got shot by a criminal and Pete blames himself. But it's gotta be more than that, right? Cuz why else would they be treating this as a huge mystery?" Then they show you the flashback where Uncle Ben got shot by a criminal and Pete blames himself.
Except it's even less competent than that, because Peter has the opportunity and ability to easily stop the criminal like a minute before Uncle Ben gets shot. He's even asked to do so. And then he doesn't, so it's practically his fault.
The twist is Spider Man could have stopped the robber earlier that day but had a “what’s in it for me” attitude. You missed the point of that origin story.
"I felt a great disturbance in the force as if millions had cried out and were suddenly silenced." Obi-Wan groans while leaning on his metal detector...
Lmaooooooooooo
"I just wanted to go home. I thought I was doing the right thing." *downs poison and dies from stupidity*
That 7 weeks away from home was still tearing him up inside. He couldn’t take it anymore
According to Disney starwars, traveling between worlds only takes a couple minutes if not seconds. Couldn’t he just pop home real quick, have a shower and return fresh??
@@lucedas3890 The Jedi must've been low on fuel or something...oh, I know, the ship was broke down! Yeah, couldn't leave. Though they could communicate with the High Council so they could send a ship...ummm, part of the Padawan's training! Yeah, that's it! Torbin hasn't got the fire tender badge, nor the botany badge yet...that's why he's so pissy.
@@MarkLittle-rq2bq yup definitely the botany badge for sure!! Makes sense now haha
@@MarkLittle-rq2bqI wonder how long it took Yord to get the botany badge? ;)
I gotta admit by the finale we're all gonna have gold medals in mental gymnastics if we can make sense of what is actually happening.
Leslie wrote a first draft and they were like thanks let’s get this in production…
This story is juvenile at best. The writers are ignorant/irreverent of the source material and they just don’t know how to tell a story that makes sense. With shows like HOD, Fallout and most shows on Apple TV, hiring substandard writers/creators in this day and age is unacceptable for a multi million dollar company like Disney.
"We've been here over a MONTH! Will someone PLEASE tell me WHAT we're doing here?"
"Oh shut up, Padawan, and go fill this container with grass."
"Again? This is the 100th one! Man, this sucks!...wish I was back home on Coruscant! Worst Field Trip Ever!"
*Six years later - Jedi Master Torbin?*
"Somehow, Mae returned"
"AHHHH SHE VAPOURED! SHE VAPOURED!"
Quick, kill it with fire!!!
Oh wait.
The Farce Is Strong In This One.
In a galaxy far far away, a bold story is told, and The Acolytes absurdity unfolds,
Flashbacks flicker through a hyperspace's glare, a WTF tale beyond compare.
Lesbian witches whispering secrets untold, Colleagues turned foes, their stories unfold, An emotional master, his heart in a storm, A homesick padawan, dreams of being home nice and warm,
Mass psychic murders, a tragic ballet, In a diverse cosmos where the Force is gay, Like a cheap lightsabers' diminishing glow, This saga spews out, in a vomitous flow.
So let's raise our glasses to this trainwreck in space, Where lgbtqia+ and broken lore find a place, To The Acolyte’s absurd design, Where the Force weaves tales, far from sublime.
Headlin needs to stop using Rashomon as her excuse for bad writing. Please stop sullying a masterpiece.
She tried to do the Rashomon thing, but they bungled the execution so badly. They clearly lacked anything approaching the level of competence to pull it off.
She doesn’t understand the film. Roshomon is a multiple POV story. Acolyte is an incomplete narrative where we get to know more than the characters did like Sol hidden behind a tree and the mothers’ conversation, but are left out of other details that the followed characters knew at the time.
No sh*t!
Thank you for saying it. Kurosawa's brilliance was a blinding supernova to Headland's rusty old D-cell flashlight. They're not even in the same universe.
+Remember when TV had more than 8 episodes a season and didn't squander massive budgets within those 8 episodes? Remember when we would get 20+ hour long episodes with so much character building and world building, and THEN get a payoff? Hollywood has forgotten that characters need development, and that development is the whole point. It's about the journey, not the destination. Everything now is just in service to whatever is written on the last page of the script as the conclusion and everything before it is slapped together to somehow make it work.
Half their budget probably went to pay third parties to write articles about how great the show is and to explain how everyone who doesn’t like it are some type of ist
True Detective season 1 was about 8 hours of content and it’s one of the best stories ever put to screen IMO. I think companies saw stuff like that and assumed it was the episode length and time that made shows like that so great, plus I think these people associate the 8 episode limit with more “adult” shows.
Mr T: “Prediction? …. PAIN”
Imagine going from Game of Thrones to .... This sad excuse for a Starwars story
same for squid game
I'm still wondering why the rock fortress burst into flames
And there was an explosion
Same, just like the galactic federation ships in episode 1 that blew up in flames in space where there's no oxygen, or like the death star.
It's a fantasy show 😂
The implication is that the fire Mae started somehow triggered a short or a surge in the fortress electrical system. You can see the exposed wires on the wall shooting off sparks. This electrical problem then caused the generator to malfunction and explode.
Yeah, the writing is that bad.
There was oil from the lamp where Mae set it initially and it spread to the electrical system. It's an old mining facility so the explosions were probably caused by left over explosives. Still doesn't explain how it spread so quickly, but yeah..
@@robinnewhouse1563, you know that not only oxygen causes chemical reactions that look like fire, right?
The impact of the reveal from this episode is like when people use AI to extend paintings like the Mona Lisa.
This ep went from mid to bad as soon as the credits rolled and that pop song played.
Guess everyone forgets size means nothing to a Jedi.
I’m torn. I love that message in ESB, but also, it makes for overpowered characters (boring story). Probably it’s an unsolvable problem, so the answer is to just stop digging deeper in to Star Wars, creating lore paradoxes
I can give that a partial pass because Sol was shown to be very emotional for the scene. He was far from having a calm state of mind, more like Luke lifting the X-Wing than Yoda.
Sol being that emotional is in itself a whole other set of problems.
That's a lesson about self-confidence and how you're not relying on your physical body to move things with the Force, not about how all Jedi can move stars around.
@@bluemoondm8629If Jedi can’t move stars because of their size, then “size matters not” is simply incorrect. I’m not trying to start a fight, just saying this is the result of turning a trilogy into an unplanned cinematic universe. Somewhat throwaway lines come back to haunt you
@@ian-flanagan No, George Lucas never meant to imply that Yoda could move planets etc, it's not literal. As I said it's Yoda teaching Luke a mindset about being confident in his abilities and making the effort before immediately claiming it can't be done. He's teaching Luke to always make the attempt and to always strive to do better when he fails. "Do or do not, there is no try" means you make the effort with the mindset of success not of failure which was what Luke was doing.
1. Ghost Koril saved Mae from the fall and trained her for 16 years. Calling it early.
2. Torbin was probably just depressed because he wasn’t cute anymore. One of his eyes was busted, he had an ugly facial scar, and his hair was going. The beard wasn’t doing him any favors either. Plus, he wasn’t even on Coruscant! After all that homesick whining, they transferred him to Olega. 😢😂
Jedi Master Trinity severed the WiFi router disconnecting the Witches from the Matrix proving she is the Chosen One...wait, what are we talking about again?
@@MarkLittle-rq2bq There is no light-spoon.
That fact that the Witches all died when they got "unplugged" from Kelnacca is a Matrix reference since Trinity was the one doing it... maybe... I'm just talking out of my asssss
Honest question: Besides the Vergal birth.. What is so SPECIAL about Osha and Mea for them to be the Main focus, the Main characters, etc. She has ZERO personality, 0 depth, 0 intricate abilities and aspects to her character.. Yet we are supposed to believe All off this stuff is occurring in this show solely because it's motivated around Her... There's so many other things that are so wrong in this attempt to tell a star wars story.. There's One big issue tho, None of this portraits actually accurate star wars and jedi and all the other things in between.. How did this cost $180 million.. It seriously does not make any sense
They are living cardboard from Paper Mario? 😂
@@Subject_Keter I love paper Mario. I wish we could see more games like it. With that 2D,2.5d,3d game design
If Sol had a HUGE connection to Osha, why did he only train her for a couple of years? Then let her drop out. If she has such a high M count, wouldn't the Jedi want to keep an eye on her to make sure she doesn't fall into the dark side?
The show is simply trying to do too many things. It's trying to tell too many stories about the Jedi, Osha and May, and Qimir that they haven't left themselves room to tell a cohesive store.
They have the main areas that they want to touch on, but it's missing all of the connective thread.
I say this as someone who has generally enjoyed the show (roast me if you must) but I do think the greatest mistake the show has made was building up to this one episode so much. I don't understand how anything revealed here was such a massive twist that we needed to wait until the show was almost done to reveal it. It would've been better at least if we didn't have Sol constantly teasing the answers for every episode prior to this for no apparent reason.
Lesley Headland has said that if more seasons get green-lit then season 2 will have much more of a focus on Qimir and the Sith side of things. Which I really hope is true because that sounds way more interesting than the whole unnecessary Brendok mystery. Qimir and Sol have definitely been the best parts of this show for me.
As someone not watching, this feels like Mystery Box blight: hinting at a deep, meaningful, nourishing core, which doesn’t actually exist
I kind of hope you get your wish, but in an economic sense, so many fans have left Star Wars now, it’ll be a huge misallocation of resources to fund a Season 2. Just let it die
Also as someone who stopped watching (after Ep4) I agree that the order of things feels all wonky.. and that the Stranger woulda been a far more intriguing character than the Witches.
That's the problem though, when you leave so much so vauge, when you don't have to.
I really enjoy hearing Naboo's thoughts on these episodes. She has a talent for clarity, summarizing things in a way that makes total sense. It's also really nice to hear Thor's take on the episodes after he's already done two previous videos and has figured out stuff I didn't notice after only watching once.
As for the next episode, my track record with The Acolyte isn't that great. But I'm going to guess that somebody becomes an Acolyte in the last episode. Either Qimir survives and takes one of the twins, or he's killed and... I don't know, maybe Mother Koril makes a surprise reappearance and starts Osha down the path of the Dark Side. They'll definitely try to end with some kind of cliffhanger so they can make a season 2. (That's highly unlikely, but they didn't know that when filming the show.) I'm fairly sure Sol is going to die, because otherwise he'd finally report all he's seen to the Council. But maybe that's a fakeout.
Indara's only sin in this is a big one: covering up the whole sordid affair. You're right that it would've been better to tell Osha the truth, either gently or all at once like ripping off a band-aid. Indara says "Would you destroy the one thing she has left?" (Or words thereabouts.) But if that one thing is a lie, then Osha has nothing left. Better to let her know that so she can build some kind of truth for herself.
My cousin lost the whole second floor of his house to an electrical fire.
The original story was that Mae intentionally set the fire to kill everyone.
Headlin’s Roshoman effect: “here’s how I felt about these characters on Monday…. Here’s how I felt about them on Tuesday… on Wednesday… on… WHOOPS- just spilled my note cards all over the floor… writers #2 and #3, please scoop them up in any order on your way to the screenwriting computer station”
This is my personal Headcanon for the development of this series. The show runner wanted to work on Amazon's Wheel of Time soap opera but only Disney would return her call. She pulled a Zach Snyder and crammed her Wheel of Time soap opera story into a Star Wars shaped box. (Zach wanted to make a Star Wars movie and used the story to create Rebel Moon for Netflix.)
I loved the tag team “until next time - thanks for watching”
Also I haven’t seen it mentioned in any comments or from RUclipsrs, but Osha having the Jedi symbol in her drawing pad seems like a pretty blatant clue that The Force was calling her towards that path thus making Sol right to want to train her despite the counsels decision. Very similar to Qui-Gon and Anakin indeed
Film Threat mentioned this: Why is Sol telling the story to Mae in the present? She saw everything, so telling her what they did is really just repeating what she knows already. Osha is the one who needed to hear it. Basically, the episode's reason for existing, is horribly flawed. Better to have put this either together with ep. 3 or just do a quick flashback and move on with finding Osha.
He might be apologizing to her. He said he had 16 years to think about what to say to her. Not really implying it's revealing the truth.
Well, she still didn`t know, that the jedi were worried for their safety. She thought they just wanted to control and kidnap them. He also has to apologize to her for letting her fall. Yeah, he had to pick one (because logic wasn`t an option apparently) and Ohsa was a understandable choice, but it`s still not nice to just drop someone to there death and than not feeling any guilt, or a need to apologize for it.
Sol was borderline creepy…he was too obsessed.
Lol, no.
Neither fire nor electricity work like that 😂
Also, a former mining settlement would be insanely flame-resistant by necessity. This was a fire the story needed, nothing more.
Why not tell Osha? Why not tell the council!? Indara ends up being the worst of the bunch! 😂😂😂
Because Headland needs to show the Jedi in a bad light.
Instead of having to make the choice to save one or the other, and instead of struggling to hold up the bridge, why not force lift both twins to safety?
That said, what happened to "size matters not"? Sol, who has been touted as a powerful Jedi, would have had no reason to choose one or the other.
The writer decided that circumstances force Sol to choice on over the other, so the question should be: why can’t a studio with near infinite resources craft a believable story.
Maybe unpopular opinion but “size matters not” makes for overpowered characters (and boring story), so keeping it, basically means you can’t keep expanding the Star Wars universe. It’s an unavoidable flaw, which is fine, because it was never meant to be a cinematic universe.
You are racist 😂
The mystery is there is no mystery
No, the witches were very mistery
It's even more frustrating that there are good ideas in here somewhere, but the writing is some of the worst I can remember.
That's fanfiction level writing. Even if through the bad writing you can see a decent story, it doesn't change the fact that you suck at writing.
Quick reminder that Osha has yet to do anything cool. She has done nothing whatsoever!
She put out a fire in the vacuum of space lol
Koril "misted". I like that.
🤣🤣finally convinced my father to watch this and he was absolutely convinced they were setting up sol to be somekinda diddling weirdo
This woman saying she didn’t hate the episode and was kind of entertained scares me and any thoughts of caring about your views moving forward. If this episode didn’t have you drop your jaw by the dumb storytelling and lame excuses of so called scenes then you are part of the problem. Any fans paying for a subscription just because they love Star Wars should feel betrayed by what they are giving us. Just making content to warrant customers money is a recipe for failure. Maybe if more of the suck up to Disney influencers stood up and called them out for this slop, maybe they would actually listen. When they hear half of the audience call them out and the other half saying oh this isn’t too bad and I like where it’s going even though the story is made for a four year old to comprehend, yet we want to sexify Star Wars by showing men without their shirt and show OSHA looking down at one of the men’s junk, then possibly they would say “we need to do better”.
Instead they now say the half that is calling them out are racists and review bombing them, even though race or gender have nothing to do with the many faults of this series
This episode made it pretty clear that the girls weren't the vergence, they were just proof that there was a vergence on the planet. The supposedly dead planet full of life clearly predates the birth of the twins. Maybe the twins were somehow created from the odd tree, which is the true vergence. Since Sol didn't see the twins until they were together at the tree, maybe he mistook the girls for being the source of the vergence, rather than the tree?
Also, why did they stop using the term nexus to describe a geographic focal point of force power?
when it comes to answers, it is best explained in the show itself. Sol gives answers to sooth the mind. Indara lets her Padawan figure things out for himself so that he may learn. the show wants us to come up with our own answers.
Ep 7 best example of why we "Don't split the Party in D&D", it's an interesting choice that none of the Jedi mention the Will of the Force and just want to follow the rules, feels like the exact same place they are in the Prequels, this is less of a "Jedi in Transition" and just an earlier view of the Prequel Jedi.
No, there's no good reason that the electrical system would have spread the fire.
The series will end with millions of voices suddenly crying out in terror and cancelling their Disney+ subscriptions.
I honestly can't believe Torbin's whole conflict was "I want to go home". They were only there for 7 weeks. That's nothing... I was at basic training for 8 weeks. And that was for the air force, all the other branches have it worse. And he didn't have anyone screwing at him or being in adverse weather or anything, seems like a cake walk to me
Same for me, and I have the same opinion. And that was seven weeks after years of training in, supposedly, Jedi discipline. However, Indara had a part in that problem. Seven weeks on Brendok, and they hadn't yet told Torbin why they were there. He hadn't even heard the word "vergence" in all that time. She'd given him zero motivation, which is Leadership 101,...and what else had they been talking about?
He had a secret love interest on Corusant!
Why didn't they show Mae saying she'd kill Osha in ep 7? For all the people saying "electrical fire" as a reason for the whole place exploding, how does "electrical fire" explain the generator blowing up? You know that a fire caused by electricity still won't burn stone right? Why do they have oil lamps in a fully electrified building with its own generator? When Mae threw the book on the ground, why does she also throw the oil lamp? WHY DO THE BEDROOM DOORS LOCK FROM THE OUTSIDE?! Oh right Dark Side witch cult.
The writers are the ones who made Mae that dumb, who made the generator explode, who made Mother Anaseya agree to her daughters being tested when she could have just said no, who made Koril try to use Mae as a Dark Side weapon against the Jedi for some reason, who made Torbin's motivation HOMESICKNESS, who are making the evil Dark Sider cult supposedly sympathetic.
The same people making the argument that the Jedi Council said no to training Osha so how dare Sol act, are the same people who criticize the Jedi Council of the prequels for saying the Jedi are inflexibly stuck in their ways for not wanting to train Anakin. Sol is doing basically the same thing that Qui-Gon did. Defying the will of the Council to save and train a Vergence in the Force because he feels that the Force is guiding him down that path; trusting in the will of the Force, you know, the way the Jedi are supposed to. Not doing so was the arrogance of the Jedi in the prequels.
Wild prediction here, it'll end poorly.
The problem is Leslie oversold to get the job, she threw the kitchen sink “This is kill bill meets frozen meets matrix, flips the Jedi image, sith origin, also trying to get that barbie money, puzzle box mystery and oh one more thing - roshamon” she should have just picked one and made it great.
12:20 you mean the Target arrows with LEDs strapped to their ends? Honestly with a $180 MILLION budget they should have made live action light bows like we see the Nightsisters use in the Clone Wars
There did seem to be some potential there. General consensus is to have it started with 3 and 7. I'm still curious if Thor is right about the Bunta tree.
i think the twist was meant to be that Sol killed Anisaya. i imagine telling Osha, yeah it was me that killed ur mom lol when ive told u it was all a big accident that your sister caused, probably wouldn't have gone over well.
2:04 Rashomon uses a different POV method for retelling the same story. It’s the same event remembered differently due to the persons bias and varying knowledge of the event.
The Acolyte uses incomplete narrative to hide information from the viewer, like in Glass Onion. They aren’t even close to being the same technique and it’s infuriating people opinion change of a project this experience don’t understand the difference.
I realised that this migth not have been what happened but how Sol remembers/tells it to Mae. Explaining the lack of contradictions. It is possible that what Osha remembers from her meditation might be different.
As much as Headland and her gang talked about how innovative and different this series was going to be -- and controversial-- now, after 7 out of 8 episodes I just see a lot of hype and crap slopped together to try to convince everyone this was different and great. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe some of the negativity was actually and secretly started by some of Headland's people. I've heard it said that there is 'No such thing as bad press' meaning that even bad press gets people talking and in this case many watching so that they could cut it down. Then Headland and her gang act so offended and hurt by the bad press while getting twice the attention they would have received if it hadn't been built up as controversial.
Regarding Sol feeling guilty for not saving Mae; let's say he had saved her. She'd just seen him kill her mother, what were they going to do; take her along with them kicking and screaming to Coruscant? And that wouldn't have worked anyway, because she sure the hell wouldn't have agreed to cover anything up. She certainly would be dangerous to train as a Jedi after that ceremony where she received some sort of darkside energy. It looked like all the witches were dead by the time the Jedi left, so they couldn't have just left Mae there alone. So what option would they have had left had Sol saved her too? Take her along and train her as a Jedi, all the time worrying that something evil is stirring deep down inside her (and remember, apparently in this era, Jedi can't detect darkside users very well, such as Qimir in episode 2, so they likely would not have sensed anything wrong with her, no more than they did a century later when Barriss Offee had the Jedi Temple bombed and none of them detected anything wrong with her).
The mother's tempting him while taking over his mind definitely tilted Torbin's patience and mentality afterward and that pushed him to make the rash decision he did of flying off on the speeder to go get Mae and Osha so they could go home. It wasn't the best written, but that was the angle I picked up on. So then 16 years later, I guess he's feeling guilty and like a lesser Jedi for allowing the Witch into his mind like that in the first place. Still, the suicide was ridiculously too far for him to take things.
The did do a lot of "Witchy things" in this .....thing LOL
People who like this series must enjoy raw meat…because the people who made this show definitely weren’t cooking
i think the witches got knocked out mentally and then burned to death in the fire
Unrelated subject, but I would highly recommend you Thor (and others reading this) to look up George rr Martin’s latest blogpost named «Here there be dragons» on his «not a blog» blog. In the post, especially towards the end, he speaks of the importance of lore and consistency, and why breaking it ruins the imaginative world. I feel like this is especially relevant for Star Wars nowadays, exemplified by the Acolyte seemingly ruining the «sith have been gone for a millenia» line in the Phantom Menace. I know you have touched the subject in other videos Thor, but would like your thoughts on George’s bloggpost!
So Torbin is not dead if he drank from the tree. So he is Sith Lord....and was projecting himself to look like he was meditating while learning how to transfer his soul.
FyrstLast… you have officially put more thought and effort into one sentence than the Acolyte writers put in to an entire season.
Oh shi… Disney bout to throw u a check
..."She is part of the Dizney Alliance and a Traitor!!! Take her away!!!"...
~Darth Vapor
《Episode 7: Choice》
...Sol can't save both Mae and Osha, so he chooses Osha, who he beliEves is the "Good One"...
《Episode 6: Teach/Corrupt》
...Mae sWitches places with Osha, but Sol can't tell them apart...
...so then, how did he "choose?"
...with a "Chance Cube??"
...i feel like i Mist something...?
👽 🖖 🤖
The idea of the episode was to show there is no good or evil just about which side your on. The writers did in a way that makes the characters seem stupid
I just remember, you complained that Sol did not feel that mae was with him in the ship and not osha, but this episode explained that their force thing is exactly the same, so he could not even feel it through the force
It did show him reading Osha's actual thoughts, though, just before he and Torbin entered the building.
My favorite part, was when the Acolyte showed up and said it's Acolyte time and started acolyting all over the place
hard to argue that recent star wars has been consistently disappointing and underwhelming. Boba, Ahsoka, Kenobi, now Acolyte.....
When you look at it from the positive, they've gotten better each time... Boba, Obi-wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte... from worst to getting better.
Ahsoka was the only one of the four I liked, mainly cause it does break the lore or continuity of the movies from what I can tell.
@@JoeVulgamoreAuthorYou might be right, but the Rotten Tomatoes scores are going down. I think the brand name is unsalvagable now (in terms of justifying massive budgets)
The problem is that Star Wars is the Ferrari of media franchises and they keep releasing Camrys. Even if the Camry gets updated with a new model, it's no Ferrari.
@@bluemoondm8629The Camry is still a decent car that does all a car is supposed to do, it's the equivalent of a cheaper yet well written show. Acolyte is an expensive badly written show.
How is Turbin a master if he’s a padawan here and 16 years later he’s a master who’s been floating for ten years. So how’d he go from weak ass padawan to jedi master in 6 years?
It's all the witches fault. They possessed Torbin without any threat to them at all, they were super aggressive for no reason (especially that insufferable Zabrak woman, holy that was some bad acting haha) who also convinced Mae to start the fire, they failed (main mother) to say "hey, it's cool if you take Osha, she wants to go" instead turning into a smoke demon that was apparently vaporizing Mae... it is literally all their fault and it's HILARIOUS. I don't blame Sol for killing her at all, that would freak anyone out. Indara did us all a favor by killing the rest of them, lol. Probably the worst written big franchise media ever
I thought Aniseya was taking Mae over like Orochimaru wants Sasuke as a vessel
That situation was the equivalent of having a cop tv show and a criminal pulls out a gun covered in spikes, but whenever the cops shoot him, they reveal that it’s the rainbow gun or something lmao.
This episode makes episode 3 irrelevant.
I like how a lightsaber is dangerous enough to kill vapor witches... however, Sabine and Reva are immune to lightsabers
@@user-tv6tr9fp9q One of the few things this series actually got right - making lightsabers lethal again.
Hey Thor Hey Naboo.
How does Turbine become a master?
He "knew" the manager.
The writers are such garbage at their job they couldn't figure out how to justify Torbin committing suicide, so the audience has to theory craft for the writers instead. There was so much stupid in this show the Torbin issue is just one.
I saw nothing in the parents' treatment of the twins to suggest that they weren't treated like children. Koril showed up and dragged them back home because they strayed too far away or something. If their training the twins was what Sol meant when he said that so worriedly, then that means that he doesn't treat the younglings like children, either, so what's the big deal?
I have a problem with episode 7, why is Sol telling Mea what happened even though she already knew already. Master Sol should’ve told the truth to OSHA not Mea. Mea already knows the truth but OSHA didn’t know the whole truth. I hoping there be no flash back again in episode 8
Shocker that they'll never tell us how Mae survived
Shout out to Naboo, great insights
Episode order is such a showing that this series is a result of bad writing reshoot & rewrites
Why didn't Sol lift the two girls instead of lifting the two walkways? The only reason he failed in that moment was because the was trying to hold the walkways that are much heavier
My problem with this episode is that I could think of 1 minute changes to the script to justify plot points, like tell us Torbin wants to go home to see his parents or show us mother Aniseya having used black mist magic before she died in a manner which helps to transport people.
I just hate characters doing things where I have no reasonable expectation of an understanding that they are the type of character (in personality or ability) to do this certain action.
Super common design to have flaming glass and chemical sconces every 8 feet or so
they had what appeared to be cold light sources everywhere else.
@@kirkdarling4120 right! They work best in the children's hallway....kids love to watch a natural flame dance
5:05 "It is kind of true" "It's an obvious choice" Thor, seriously, what are you on about?
It's not Torbin's fault, if anyone's it's Sol's, and even then he didn't do much
All i know is, this is the kinda thing you sell in shady alleys to that guy or girl that love to hurt themselves. 😂
Ra-sho-mon, not rash-man 🤣
Hey Thor, of all the stupid things that the show does and people have commented on, I have not heard anyone who is talking about it ask this question about OSHA: right after the event where she was saved and her sister and mother died, why didn’t she ever say to her mentor even once over the years, “hey, how did my mama die?” This is not something that should never have been a topic after what? Ten years? Fifteen years?? Don’t you think this girl after this huge tragedy of losing her mother, would have demanded the story?? Would have asked why he looked so guilty when talking about it, and what was he holding back from her? Don’t you think this girl would have badgered Sol, the only person who knew the full story of how it all happened, until she was finally told the truth?? I don’t know about you, but most women in my life can tell when you are lying or not being fully honest with them. This is not something that would never have been broached before as a topic. What do you think about this?? Curious! Keep it up, love your honesty and detailed commentary more than the show! Lol
I was liking Jackie in this also ticked off when Trinity and then she died and now I'm just finding out she's wolverine's daughter in Logan and they killed her off
Smokey wokey ❤
The evil brainwashing dark side witches were completely in the wrong, they were the aggressive hostile party provoking conflict every step of the way and the Jedi defended themselves. The show did absolutely nothing at all to even remotely suggest otherwise.
This was the only episode I didn't want to rewatch.
You sad person
@@juliandarch9278 Not really.
I have really enjoyed the series but this last episode was flat and illogical.
Maybe I missed something-if so please educate me-but I don’t understand how Sol knows Mae started the fire. I thought only Osha knew, and there’s a scene where Sol tells her that, so apparently she didn’t tell him. Really curious.
That's a story for another time.
Indara figured it out.
I'm really beginning to hate the use of the term "unreliable narrator." It's being used as little more than an excuse for crappy writing.
More than anyone else, Lee Jung-jae really doesn't deserve this awful writing.
I spent pretty much the entire episode wondering why the Jedi were behaving in such a bizarre manner.
If they just listen to the Jedi council
Hey Thor and Naboo,
Kind Words.
The controversy around this show was kind of fun for a couple weeks..but now I’m just kinda over it. It’s not worth the hate or the love that both sides are throwing on it. It’s not worth anything, let it fade into obscurity.
"Pada problems" 😂
The vergence on the planet can split living things into their light side and dark side halves. The vapor is how they split the twins. Sol did the same thing with his dark side, probably unknowingly, and that’s where Smilelo Rin came from. The scar is where they separated. Which is going to be even stupider because Sol should have felt or at least seem the apothecary was a young him.
It’s just a theory but I think I’ve cracked the code of this terrible writing. It should’ve been a cool concept but these terrible writers ruined it.
Hey Thor... When Mother Anasaya is in Torbin's head, she mentions "unspoken desires", and he starts to cry and says he wants to go home. I cannot help but think that he's not so much "homesick", as much as missing a girlfriend. There's nothing in the show to elude to that, I guess it kind of comes from once being a kid in love with his first girlfriend and hated every minute away from her during the family vacation.... I don't know... sound plausible to you?
I took it as a pretty clear and on the nose representation of the mother being Harvey Weinstein and Torbin being one of his victims.
EDIT: also I thought Torbin was gay
Padaproblems!