Demolition man was one of the greatest satires ever. Largely the film itself predicates the concept of a fascist utopia; while mainstream society is largely well fed and healthy, content; most individual liberties are painstakingly removed to the point they don't even know they had those freedoms and in the long run they had to coddle and indoctrinate people to accept it. The police uniforms resemble fascistic regime military outfits; that in absense of overall crime, spend their time doing paperwork and enforcing social order. Citizens dress like in Handmaids tale The architect of their society; is in reality a crazed power monger who used a criminal to sow chaos to accumulate more power. Despite overwhelming moral superiority as a philosophy; moral cowardice is ubiquitous. No one, not even the police know how to defend themselves, nor does society know how to stand up for own well being. They regurgitate Cocteau dogma rather than think for themselves. In the end, they resorted to savage to curtail another criminal they don't know how to control.
My favorite unsung part of this movie: John Spartan cursing to get toilet paper from the fine printer. In other words, he is _literally_ wiping his ass with Cocteau's draconian fines.
"You inspire Joy-Joy feelings in others!" I especially love the scene where the cops try to apprehend Phoenix & the VI tutorial the cops are using. "Now, with a Firm Voice, add the words Or Else" 🥴
@@uncannyvalley2350 considering the many laws made which have nothing to do with protecting the people including causing problems for people at times, crime is whatever the opinion structures of the public determine it to be, combined with financial interests and protecting capitalism (or any capitalistic political structure which by definition is any modern society).
Watch it again, seriously. You will see how incredibly unstupid and accurate it is. From the ugly yet loose fitting clothes they wear (been to an airport lately?), to the entertainment they consume (guy getting kicked in the balls), to the way they talk, Costco’s ubiquitous presence (the lawyer got his degree there lol), the officials who are elected, the way everyone argues their point (it’s got what plants crave, electrolytes, electrolytes are what plants crave), I could go on. He should definitely definitely do it next.
@@Frisbinator the most innacurate thing is that people are just idiots. The main difference of our world to idiocracy's is that people there don't pretend to be intelligent
*"You see, according to Cocteau's plan... I'm the enemy. Because I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, the freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of BBQ ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Mayer Wiener." You live up top, you live Cocteau's way: what he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here... and maybe starve to death."* ~Edgar Friendly
@@raul0ca neither do I. But I suspect it is a more primitive form of what a bidet does. Ironically, if you wash your hands thoroughly afterward, it is cleaner than paper...
I absolutely LOVE that you made this video, and recognized this movie. Leary's little monologue is definitely one of the best in movies, and he was absolutely perfect for that role. I love his comedy and his other work, because he didnt even have to act. That is Dennis to a T.
Taco Bell was the only Restaurant that agreed to be in the movie of a relatively unknown director, that is why Taco Bell was the restaurant they went to eat at lol
@@nickgov66both were owned by Riese corporation with a few others. When I went to Paris for the first time, I saw no Taco Bell and quite a few Pizza Hut locations
you know I always wonder why Cocteau so brilliant for a Politician and how he got so many to go on broad with his plan. Then it hit me he was a business man. he had all kinds of company's under him.
He was a *science* business man. He promised everyone a better world through science but used the convince he created to manipulate the world. He was big tech before big tech.
“Safety above all” that is one of the beat lines and shows exactly how he thinks. He is willing to sound like the good guy by helping people by making them have no free will, all for their supposed “safety”
Before watching the review: Demolition Man is startlingly prescient for social trends that have culminated in the past couple years. It's also a really fun movie that holds up better than a lot of action movies.
I always loved the line "This isn't the wild west! Hell the wild west wasn't the wild west." I don't know how many times people have said 'it will be like the wild west' when talking about why they think we need more gun control. What they obviously don't know is the homicide rates then were lower than now! The other quip that perfectly showcases their ignorance and lack of intelligence is 'it will be like the shootout at the Okay Corral!' You mean the shootout where the only people who died were the 'criminals,' the shootout where all the law enforcement agents survived and NO bystanders were injured? I wish EVERY shootout had those kinds of results! (Ignoring for the time being that the entire reason there even was a shootout was because of gun confiscation laws. A point you would think would weaken their arguments but tactical stupidity is a thing after all...)
The "Wild West" did not have lower homicide rates than the modern United States, that is a ridiculous assertion. It is true that large parts of the united states had comparable or lower homicide rates than other cities at the time, but compared to today, you were on average between 3 and 5 times as likely to be murdered, with outliers in areas with large amounts of travel and ineffective law-enforcement having yearly homicide rates as high as 1 out of 1000.
@@xyxxanx9810 thanks for your baseless opinion _"Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by and named after journalist, author, and public speaker Christopher Hitchens. Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."_ But even then, because I don't want to make baseless assertions like you _"During a 15-year period in the late 1880s, there was an average of only three murders a year in Abilene, Caldwell, Dodge City, Ellsworth and Wichita - the five Kansas cities that served as significant railroad stops. This was far lower than murder rates in the eastern cities of New York, Baltimore or Boston at the time. (The city with the most murders of the five was Dodge City, which had 17 over nine years, less than two murders per year.)"_ _"There were pockets of violence, says Wild West historian Jonita Mullins, but even these “tended to be sensationalized by the press and dime novels of the day.”_ _"Even so, a typical frontier town of the 1880s was likely to be less violent than many cities today - you'd just never know it by the way murder rates are often calculated. In fact, the compilation of homicide rates during the Wild West-era may be one of the longest-running controversies among statisticians."_
@@gusmc2220 So do I get this right; you make an assertion without evidence, which I then refute without evidence, after which you criticize me, by stating evidence-free assertions can be dismissed outright....... which is exactly what I did. Also, only because you write something in cursive and put it into quote-marks, does not make it "evidence". But at this point hypocrisy seems a well established tradition in this thread, so allow me; "Was the “Old West” violent? Scholars have established that it was not as violent as most movies and novels would suggest. Murder was not a daily, weekly, or even monthly occurrence in most small towns or farming, ranching, or mining communities. Still, homicide rates in the West were extraordinarily high by today’s standards and by the standards of the rest of the United States and the Western world in the nineteenth century, except for parts of the American South during the Civil War and Reconstruction. Most data that historians have gathered are preliminary, based on a single source such as newspapers, legal records, or official statistics, rather than on multiple sources. They are minimum counts, not estimates of the number of homicides that occurred. But preliminary data are available for Oregon, British Columbia, Texas, nine counties in California (which together held 57 percent of the population of central and southern California), eight Native peoples in California, five cattle towns, five mining towns, and two counties each in Arizona and Colorado." "To appreciate how violent the West was, we need to consider not only the annual homicide rate, but the risk of being murdered over time. For instance, the adult residents of Dodge City faced a homicide rate of at least 165 per 100,000 adults per year, meaning that 0.165 percent of the population was murdered each year-between a fifth and a tenth of a percent. That may sound small, but it is large to a criminologist or epidemiologist, because it means that an adult who lived in Dodge City from 1876 to 1885 faced at least a 1 in 61 chance of being murdered-1.65 percent of the population was murdered in those 10 years. An adult who lived in San Francisco, 1850-1865, faced at least a 1 in 203 chance of being murdered, and in the eight other counties in California that have been studied to date, at least a 1 in 72 chance. Even in Oregon, 1850-1865, which had the lowest minimum rate yet discovered in the American West (30 per 100,000 adults per year), an adult faced at least a 1 in 208 chance of being murdered." "If we assume the towns and counties that have been studied to date were representative of similar towns and counties, and that their inhabitants were a fair sample of the inhabitants of similar towns or counties, we can also be confident (because of the laws of probability) that homicide rates were high in towns and counties that have not yet been studied. For instance, we can estimate that there is only a 1-in-200 chance that the homicide rate for all Western cattle towns was less than 97 per 100,000 adults per year, if the five cattle towns studied to date were typical (as there is every reason to believe). The chance that the rate in all cattle towns was low or moderate by the standards of the most of the rest of the United States and other Western nations-10 per 100,000 adults per year or less-is vanishingly small." P.S.:I can´t figure out how you got that sweet cursive thing going, dammit. Guess I´ll never reach your heights of internet-intellectualism.
@@xyxxanx9810 .i cannot prove or disprove (since you simply quoted things but didnt present the actual source). but im 100% sure, that chicago beats any murder town of the past
It's freaky how accurate this movie is now. Also, they should have stuck with Thomas Payne instead of Friendly. Cool name, cool reference, cool all-around.
My main problem with that is that it’s a bit too ‘in your face.’ They _could_ have gone with another amalgamation, though (Alexander Payne, for Hamilton and Payne, maybe?).
I bet anything a producer or exec was against it. Though with the last name Friendly, it gives away he's ones of the good guys, especially in a time before subversions.
For me, one of the scariest predictions in this movie was the line, "We're police officers, we're not trained to handle this kind of violence!" Looking at you, Great Britain...
🤣 have you ever fought the police? Your average uniform aint shit but if they send the tactical aid lads all armoured up you really dont wana resist. They can, will and do FUCK YOU UP
Lol.....wait....you think our officers don't crack down on the public? The fact we can no longer carry firearms just means it's even easier for them to do so....look into Ian Tomlinson as just one example of many many many others.
@@leobullock3859 yeah because they only crack down on helpless people who post "offensive" memes online, not real criminals who shoot and stab people on the streets
Our cops use tasers & pepper sprays which effectively incapacitate criminals. We do have regional Armed Response Units like the US SWAT but only for more serious crimes involving firearms...
That's because he was just reading a slightly-modified version of his song "A[hole]" from his stand-up routine from 9 months before this movie came out (and was probably still fresh at the time of filming).
One of my favorite movies of all time. I can't believe how the pandemic has brought out some of the things that actually happened in this movie. Scifi made reality.
There's a huge difference between a power hungry dictator wanting to take away liberties and freedoms (1) and a pandemic which is undeniable deadly. During a pandemic, the responsibilities towards each other outweighs some liberties and contrary to overindividualists. In most free societies outside of the USA the balance between the freedoms laid out in the human rights and the need to protect each other from a deadly virus had been handled mostly well (one of the most sucessful countries was New Zealand, a democracy wit a lot of liberties) and many countries are already abandoning the strictest parts of the covid-regulations since those meassures were successful in those countries without a rightwinger travestie of freedoms. The same goes with actual dictatorships like China in whcih the pandemic despite all of these overstrict lockdowns is still around and claims its victims. Thanks to the politicization of the pandemic by fascist rightwingers like Bannon and authoritarians like Trump the USA had one of the worst death rates of any industrialized western countries. (1) like Cocteau in the movie or Trump in the real world who even staged a coup d'etat to reverse a true democratic election which went against him, a man who is a consumate liar, rapist, traitor to the USA see the top secret papers he stole.
I cant express enough how much I love Out Of Frame. It is by a large margin the best thing on youtube. And now you do one of my all.time favorite movies! It just doesnt get better!
I work with people with disabilities and there’s a phrase we use called “right to risk”. Which means that everyone has the right to participate in behaviors we may not see as ideal, like smoking, drinking, etc. and they have the right to experience the possible consequences because we all have that right.
The real dilemma a free society constantly faces is the determination of how others should be responsible for one's tendencies or circumstance, whether self-destructive or uncontrollable, such as the use of taxes, charities, public service, and overall governance. A free society is still in its terrible twos. And that's not even ascertaining the overwhelming element of corporations.
@@commandercaptain4664 no, the problem with a free society is the citizens natural desire for safety. the right to keep and bear arms is critical to the maintenance of a free state. not only to defend from outside threats, or criminals, but because it means your fellow citizens must always be dangerous, and unsafe, while simultaneously you must hold them personally responsible for themselves and their actions, because they retain ultimate responsibility over life and death, you cannot just allow them to be irresponsible, yet they can rebel violently if you push them to far.
Sadly, yes, and no - getting "high" has the added effect of making the user less smart, as well as making him "less lucky" or "making their destiny worse" (like dying, or becoming a cripple) - so, should people be allowed to do drugs (and yes, nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol, belong to this category just as cocaine and heroin)? Yes! Can they stay in society (outside of a closed facility) as they do so? No! Since if they do (as happens today), they decrease the freedom of everyone in society (as one of the avenues of the "worse destiny" they bring upon themselves). We already know what happens when you forcefully mix and package good loans with bad loans - the 2008 housing crisis (all the loans become bad) - the same thing happens in current society: As long as the bad-behaving-people (druggies - anyone who uses any substance to get "high") are freely mixing with the not-bad-behaving-people (those who don't), everyone will be treated as bad-behaving-people - hence the shortages, the inflation, the censorship, and the rest of the plights of society, that eventually reduce the freedoms of everyone until people will no longer be able to do drugs (or everything will collapse, and a lot of people will die, thus buying years or even decades for the survivors, who will arrive at the same choice again - and yes, those who are unaware of this connection speak that process in the form of the following cycle: "Good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men, strong men create good times").
@@user-tb7ml8kz7h - *"so, should people be allowed to do drugs (and yes, nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol, belong to this category just as cocaine and heroin)? Yes! Can they stay in society (outside of a closed facility) as they do so? No! Since if they do (as happens today), they decrease the freedom of everyone in society (as one of the avenues of the "worse destiny" they bring upon themselves). "* The way I see it, is that if the person in question isnt bothering anybody, then theres no reason to bother them. If they are causing a ruckus, being violent and the like, then sure, they need to be dealt with, but if they are just sitting outside minding their own business, what business is it of yours or anybody elses to tell them they _cant_ do that? Sometimes people just want to be left alone, and the only way they can do that is by going outside. If people arnt causing an actual problem, then dont bother them.
@@SvendleBerries Sure! No need to isolate those who isolate themselves. I never said that the "closed facility" has to be centralized and/or govt. owned... And even those who get into such a facility should stay there only until they quit drugs.
"Somewhere in the middle, I dunno you'll figure it out." Is also very accurate to the issue of society. Yes people should be allowed to live their lives, eat that high-cholesterol, have that bucket of cheese. Companies should not however be allowed to Lie to their customers. Create 'healthy' options that aren't any healthier or might even be less healthy. Companies should not be allowed to get away with skewing nutrition facts to make things not look as bad as they might be, or find clever ways to skirt things, like people who want whole wheat but get away with marketing something as 'whole wheat' when it isn't by using the word 'contains.' Risk is fine, so long as the only person at risk is yourself. People should be allowed t live their lives, so long as their lives don't infringe on others. The problem we are seeing is people going to far in enforcing the safety of the whole over the freedom of others, and this engenders distrust, resentment and eventually rage and malice against the whole, causing people to intentionally do things that put others at risk because it feels like their only way to lash out.
Also, "figuring it out" is a constant struggle, as are all things concerning morality, which concludes that there should've been 22 sequels by now, or as they're known nowadays as "a cinematic TV series".
my only issue is that it says it as an "in the middle". An issue I often have with people is that they think things like company rights and consumer rights are opposed when they just aren't. It is nuanced, but that nuance doesn't magically average out to a flat gradient, there are some things which are rights, somethings which are not, and some things that, sure maybe it would be nice if they were, but they still aren't and thats how it needs to stay. For instance : A company shouldnt be able to boldface lie about a product, but a company should be able to make that product as expensive and shitty as they like, so long as those features are avaliable for consumers to see and recognize before purchase. Things like exclusivity agreements are a common issue like this since some people think that that is a corporate right without realising those sorts of deals are fundamentally anti-competitive and lead to monopolization of markets.
the further we got away from 2010 .. the more i got the feeling demolition man was a prediction not fiction .. cancel culture, "equity" over equality, hyper authoritarian nanny state "caring" about the citizens, wussyfication of police force, etc etc ..
I really liked how John Spartan responded after realizing the scrap people just wanted food. It was wrong to beat up people who were desperate for food. How can anyone survive not being allowed to buy food or even basic shelter? Seeing how John stands up for basic human rights would make him an enemy to many governments around the world.
True, however saying that a message of the past remains relevant to our modern times doesn't bode well for how stagnant our modern times have become. It's the same as lauding the phrase "yeah, but we're still talking about it" as a virtue. There really needs to be a movie about that (and call it Demolition Man 2).
@@commandercaptain4664 I agree that modern society is a little bit stagnant but the main problem is that our society now wants to pick the path of degradation. Things like life lessons, beliefs or traditions tested for thousands years are now obstacles. Family? Who needs family. Marriage? Who needs marriage. I just want to be TikTok star posting empty nonsense. Women instead of choosing happy life pick Onlyfans were they sell their bodies. Self respect and meaning in your life? Fuck it fame and money is more important. I could explain this better or mention a lot more but it's a youtube comment. It's hard to talk about topics like this clearly. Thing is stuff like sitting down and eating food with your family at a table is maybe ancient history. If I ever have family I would like to do this because sitting down, eating and talking about your day connects your family. Just find stuff that makes you happy. Even living far from a big city will make you happier. Just do things that make you feel fulfilled. For example I think having a house near a city is a good idea. You can play games and etc. Then I can take a short brake go outside chill a little bit and maybe grill something. Chop some wood for fireplace. You take care of your property and etc. It feels like living instead of staying alive in a box. Demolition Man 2 is a dream that will never happen. Wokeness, Hollywood and etc would never allow for a movie like this to exist. I love this movie and I loved Equilibrium. Sadly I don't think we will see movies like this again.
Yep because Hollywood nowadays is just yet another arm of the Chinese communist party. I wish Hollywood would return to the way it was in the 1980s-2000s: making legitimately intelligent and fun movies and TV, not hammering its audience with a sludge hammer with destructive communist nihilism and virtue signaling.
The essential idea of the Bill of Rights was to respect individual rights and with that, accept personal responsibility for the choices we make with that respect.
Another big thing about the us and Canadian founding documents is.. They are designed with one thing in mind. Freedom. It's designed to enable liberty for all
I loved this one. You picked a favorite movie of mine and did a terrific job of dissecting it. It's sad and scary how much of it's plot has come to pass.
There was originally a scene where he meets his daughter, but it was cut. That's probably why his wife and daughter are mentioned since that scene was already done. I've always thought Denis Leary's speech was ad-libbed, since it so closely matches his comedy routine rants, not just in delivery, but content. A flaw in Spartan's closing recommendations to Friendly and the police chief is that "they'll figure it out". They hadn't been able to figure it out so much in 30 years that they had warring ideologies. Not the best time to step aside.
This movie is the Theatrical representation of this quote by C. S. Lewis. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
The fact that you had to censor out Stallone swearing in the scene where you talk about this dystopian future's draconian censorship is the highest irony. Also Klaus Scwab reminds me of the "Evil Mr. Rogers" from this movie. Apparently Schwab even stole his wardrobe. ...In retrospect this future is *Really* on the nose
@@Shoopuffishgud The fact that is the first place your mind goes when I said nothing of the sort indicates you are trying desperately to project your own shortcomings and failures onto me. Nice try though loser
I loved this movie back in the 90s,still love it today....hell i loved it so much i would play demolition man with gi joes back in the day...also to be honest i got to wonder how much the message of movies like this helped to form my belief system
I caught that clip of Tom Naughton in his documentary "Fat Head". That's a great documentary, in great keeping with the Friendly Doctrine. And Tom's a great guy. Have you ever done a series on documentaries? One on Fat Head would be great. That was Tom's answer to the scientifically vapid "Super Size Me".
I have talked about a couple documentaries on the series but those episodes never do super well. I was explicit about including Fathead though, cause my editor put in a clip of Supersize Me and I felt it was only fair.
Love this movie and the 90s nostalgia that comes with it. I hadn’t realized when I saw it as a teen that it had so much reference to books I didn’t read until I became an adult. I feel like the original Judge Dredd is a very similar movie (mostly because of Stallone and Schneider). I’m curious what references it might have other than the comics it is loosely based on? Thanks for your amazing and thoughtful content!
Man I love this movie so much. Growing up as a kid, this movie was action packed and funny. Watching it again as an adult......... I start to notice all of the more nuanced aspects of it and yeah I totally agree...... this is the smartest dumb movie ever. It's a shame people are trying to make it into a reality but there are many of us who chooses our own path. Freedom is the right for all sentient beings
Equilibrium is also another hidden gem that people never talk about. Incredibly written and very well directed that's set in a near dystopian year. Hands down one of the best gun Kuta action scenes I've ever seen in a movie.
Anyone figured out yet how to use the three seashells? That aside, this film has always been good to watch. Scary how much has come true. We literally live in that world. From being forced to have medication injected against our informed decisions, for our safety of course [even though tens of thousands have died from it], to a dumbed down populace who thinks you are dangerous for thinking on your own two feet. I guess people like me will have to live underground soon, we are already called all those things they call the free people in the film and denied access to certain places.
you use seashells like you would use eyeglasses or your hand. its a way of commenting that this supposedly clean and hygiene is incredibly disgusting when you look into it.
"You got that right. See, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". - Edgar Friendly
I’m sure that wasn’t the point of the film, but it’s interesting how it tackles things that both the left and the right are trying to (or at least claim they) warn about. For the left: police brutality, need of prison and justice system reform, police departments inefficient at dealing with certain crimes, classism and poverty, big business monopolies, maybe even abortion laws/lack of reproductive rights (though this was minimally mentioned as part of a joke). For the right: media control, censorship, over regulation, overreaching gun control, safety above liberty, systemic control… This gonna sound very David F. Nolan of me, but the movie, even if indirectly, highlights how all of those issues I mentioned have nothing to do with left or right and are all just issues of authoritarianism. Of course, if you’ve been radicalized into any of the wings the movie will serve as more of a Rorschach test than a warning about authoritarianism, but I do believe most people are level minded and will understand the underlying message behind it. And if not, at least there’s this video to explain it 🤷🏻♂️
In the demolition man world ,crime in LA is through the roof. If you see at the beginning ,cops are driving military vehicles: humvee and chopper. John is wearing his military uniform . Criminals have anti aircraft guns ,heavy explosives and a huge network throughout the city ,in the opening when you see all the bullets flying through the air. It could only mean these criminals were former military with special skills or they just got very creative .
Aside from being really confused how you lined up those topics, I think the movie just touched on the more important point, most of the people in the political spheres talking about solving any of these problems offered no good solutions. It basically just takes a common sense standpoint of showing what happens if people get the way that they try to push things, and shows that the issues are innate to the necessity more often than not. It does this in two typical forms that you see repeated, banning things that are bad, and removing things that are harmful. Banning things that are bad does nothing besides make you have less options, removing things that are harmful simply creates a world where no one can essentially defend against those harmful things. It's pretty simple but pretty direct in critique, it's just impressive how many of the topics that they got in the movie.
A classic movie you should do: The Man in the White Suite The original Obi Wan Kenobi, a simple sci-fi premise, a thorough follow through, and significant moral questions about technology and progress, as well as liberty vs power. Maybe my favorite all time film!
Said this for years about this film. Terminator 2 was also just so accurate also. And in demolition man. This is actually what’s happening now. But lots of people can’t see it
I love that film. Have you considered doing Dr. Strangelove? What is so terrifying about the best dark comedy ever made is how cogent Gen. turgison's argument for an all out attack on the Russians is once a squadron of bombers have been sent to hit their targets by Gen. Ripper. Slim Pickens does a great job of playing a fcolorful but duty driven aircraft commander who has total faith in a commanding officer that has gone insane.
I am totally surprised FEE is explaining Demolition man! There is just too much caveats about dystopian future "safe" Society with the Greek tragedy like Hero being sent to prison and an under dog trope about the same hero uses profanity to get toilet paper! 😂
I remember watching this movie like 10 years ago, and I thought the argument was kind of ridiculous because there is no way the society would get so weak and pusillanimous, but didn’t care it was a nice action flick with Stallone and Snipes both great action icons, but then years went by and this is getting more close to reality in just 10 years, that is terrifying, WTF? I’m one of those subterranean people now.
I thought OOF had done an episode on "Starship Troopers" (1997), but going back in the archive, I couldn't find one. If "The Demolition Man" warrants a deconstruction of its social commentary, the movie of "Starship Troopers", although barely recognizable as being based on the Robert A Heinlein book of the same name (because it's not), certainly deserves a break down in an OOF episode.
Nigel Hawthorn was a perfect casting, it helps if you know his other major role as Sir Humphry Applebee who basically was the same character but British.
Check out the anime Dr. Stone if you can. I think there are a number of lessons you can pull from it. The premise is that after a strange green light petrifies every human being a highschooler named Senku manages to free himself 3400 years later. Nothing of civilization remains but Senku does have an incredible scientific mind he intends to use to solve the mystery of the petrification event and reestablish a technological civilization from a new stone age. Two points in particular are that Senku is smart enough to know that his brains alone aren't up to the task, and he needs many people of differing skills to say make an electric generator using only base materials or how the initial antagonist, a man named Sukasa, is not only doing something wrong but his goal itself is based on the fixed pie fallacy.
Any of John Carpenter's "Escape" movies would fit well into this channel. Considering how insane the laws have change so drastically in both LA & NYC in favor of criminals.
I agree but the guy who made the video wants you to believe that it’s the violent cops of today that the movie didn’t get right..I’d like to see how he would handle life on the street with some people who would like to hurt you.
Wonderful video. I'm so blown away that such a smart film is hiding in what looks on the surface a stupid popcorn flick. It's a million times better than the total garbage that Hollywood has been shovelling in recent memory.
You also missed that is was weirdly accurate on the Taco Bell Takeover at the time - as it did nearly happen. And it is absolutely a poke on how centralized our society has become.
Main villain is played by Nigel Hawthorne , famous for playing devious Civil Servant Humphrey Appleby in MARVELOUS and SMART 80s series "Yes, Minister". Well worth watching and explaining other side of the coin.
Demolition Man is an awesome movie, and I was pleasantly surprised to see a shockingly honest representation of a libertarian representing the setting's anti-state faction; an underground dwelling, homemade firearm crafting, hamburger eating, charismatic bearded freedom fighter opposing the moral authority of the state with ideas such as free speech and self determination.
This movie was really far ahead of its time. It's not only one of Stallone's greatest roles (same with Sandra Bullock), but it also got blasted by the self-important, hypocritical critics who failed to see the satire and just dismissed the movie as a macho, dumb action by an actor they considered themselves to be far smarter to. The irony flew right over their heads when they were, themselves, being exposed on the screen for their vanity and hipocrisy as the see themselves as "our betters". As has been said, the obsession with "saving humanity" is actually an urge to control it. Unlike Starship Troopers, which is a failed attempt at satire from a mostly incapable director, Demolition Man is a testament to how good satire can be made in cinema. Sargon of Akkad made a great analysis of this movie and the libertarian ideals in it with the video "The Politics of Demolition Man". Highly recommended, even if my favorite of his is "The Politics of Starship Troopers".
I’m not sure if 1996 LA or 2030s San Angeles is more a accurate depiction of present day California. They’re both frighteningly close to reality though lol.
Freedom is necessary for societal evolution. One of the major issues for authoritarian regimes is that Freedom to criticise is not allowed which leads to stagnant societies which collapse. The only way to improve a society is to criticise or rather laught at its ineptitude. In the UK there was a show called Yes Minister which criticised the system through comedy.
This really is the fun dumb action movie on the surface that's actually a scathing satire just beneath it. It was a great film, it's sad the director didn't go on to do much else as mentioned. Edgar Friendly is truly an awesome character.
Coming back after watching the review... Yeah. I agree with a lot. But it's hard to let people have their freedom to have a borderline police state in the big blue cities when they're demanding that everyone else obey their mandates, and refusing to listen when we say "WE'RE HUMAN TOO!".
"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" ---Benjamin Franklin "Demolition Man" and basically most of Paul Verhoeven's movies are terrifying accurate portray of today's society, and it is so crazy that is borderland Orwellian 1984.
Demolition man was one of the greatest satires ever. Largely the film itself predicates the concept of a fascist utopia; while mainstream society is largely well fed and healthy, content; most individual liberties are painstakingly removed to the point they don't even know they had those freedoms and in the long run they had to coddle and indoctrinate people to accept it.
The police uniforms resemble fascistic regime military outfits; that in absense of overall crime, spend their time doing paperwork and enforcing social order. Citizens dress like in Handmaids tale
The architect of their society; is in reality a crazed power monger who used a criminal to sow chaos to accumulate more power. Despite overwhelming moral superiority as a philosophy; moral cowardice is ubiquitous. No one, not even the police know how to defend themselves, nor does society know how to stand up for own well being. They regurgitate Cocteau dogma rather than think for themselves. In the end, they resorted to savage to curtail another criminal they don't know how to control.
I changed it. It's now "illuminate/deluminate".
First thing I changed when I got my smart lights.
Enhance you calm
Elites already degraded to this level.
damn that was the most brilliant and concise comment on RUclips i have ever read.
@@ThugShiTzu be-well them for me 😆
My favorite unsung part of this movie: John Spartan cursing to get toilet paper from the fine printer.
In other words, he is _literally_ wiping his ass with Cocteau's draconian fines.
Also, wouldn't a machine wasting so much paper be illegal in California already?
@@stepanotrisal1512
You forget:
_The Greater Good_
oh damn i never got that before you are amazing squee
@@1krani *THE GREATER GOOD*
@@1krani
You forget:
_d i g i t a l d o c u m e n t a t i o n_
Loved this movie of Stallone's even more than others because of how much was going on in the plot.
This is a perfect movie. How smart it is, yet classically dumb with old-school one liners, over the top action.
'Be well!'
"Be fucked!"
"You're on TV!"
"You inspire Joy-Joy feelings in others!"
I especially love the scene where the cops try to apprehend Phoenix & the VI tutorial the cops are using. "Now, with a Firm Voice, add the words Or Else" 🥴
Is not dumb...is old. Its what people loved back them
@@commandercaptain4664 wtf is you're boggle pal? I ain't on TV, Simon Phoenix once was though......literally. 😁
I'm more inclined to see it as propaganda
But that's clearly way too much for the average American with a 5th grade reading level
The best line in the movie delivered by Wesley Snipes: "Look, you can't take away people's right to be assholes."
And Dennis Leary then wrote a song about being an asshole.
Also "That's who you remind me of: An evil Mr. Rogers!"
“Is it cold in here, or is it just me? “
What is Crime?
@@uncannyvalley2350 considering the many laws made which have nothing to do with protecting the people including causing problems for people at times, crime is whatever the opinion structures of the public determine it to be, combined with financial interests and protecting capitalism (or any capitalistic political structure which by definition is any modern society).
Idiocracy is another stupid film but the dystopian nature is really really starting to look like our own reality which is pretty frightening.
Watch it again, seriously. You will see how incredibly unstupid and accurate it is. From the ugly yet loose fitting clothes they wear (been to an airport lately?), to the entertainment they consume (guy getting kicked in the balls), to the way they talk, Costco’s ubiquitous presence (the lawyer got his degree there lol), the officials who are elected, the way everyone argues their point (it’s got what plants crave, electrolytes, electrolytes are what plants crave), I could go on. He should definitely definitely do it next.
The thing I love its how the girl just gets money from the dudes from promising sex hahahaha that part kills me
@@Frisbinator the most innacurate thing is that people are just idiots. The main difference of our world to idiocracy's is that people there don't pretend to be intelligent
@@LEOODARTHVADER2 They don't have to pretend, because they legitimately believe they ARE intelligent. It's actually incredibly accurate to today.
it's called satire you peasant, it isn't a stupid movie ...
*"You see, according to Cocteau's plan... I'm the enemy. Because I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, the freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of BBQ ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Mayer Wiener." You live up top, you live Cocteau's way: what he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here... and maybe starve to death."*
~Edgar Friendly
Yap yap.
Demolition Man was underestimated back then, but it resulted surprisingly real.
Still don't know how the three shells work
@@raul0ca neither do I. But I suspect it is a more primitive form of what a bidet does.
Ironically, if you wash your hands thoroughly afterward, it is cleaner than paper...
@@raul0ca ask japan lol
@@raul0ca Indeed. It's anarchy time!
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo Or if you wet the paper then wash the area in question, it is cleaner than dry paper.
I absolutely LOVE that you made this video, and recognized this movie. Leary's little monologue is definitely one of the best in movies, and he was absolutely perfect for that role. I love his comedy and his other work, because he didnt even have to act. That is Dennis to a T.
It was just a slightly-modified version of his song "A[hole]" from his stand-up routine that came out shortly before they filmed this scene.
Taco Bell was the only Restaurant that agreed to be in the movie of a relatively unknown director, that is why Taco Bell was the restaurant they went to eat at lol
Except in many other countries it was Pizza Hut.
@@nickgov66 oh?! Thanks I didn't know that!
@@nickgov66both were owned by Riese corporation with a few others. When I went to Paris for the first time, I saw no Taco Bell and quite a few Pizza Hut locations
you know I always wonder why Cocteau so brilliant for a Politician and how he got so many to go on broad with his plan. Then it hit me he was a business man. he had all kinds of company's under him.
He was a *science* business man. He promised everyone a better world through science but used the convince he created to manipulate the world. He was big tech before big tech.
@@ItsTrinton thanks
An Englishman with a French name using Japanese customs. When Lenin's smells the sweater John knit's,clothing ,housing.
“Safety above all” that is one of the beat lines and shows exactly how he thinks. He is willing to sound like the good guy by helping people by making them have no free will, all for their supposed “safety”
Before watching the review: Demolition Man is startlingly prescient for social trends that have culminated in the past couple years.
It's also a really fun movie that holds up better than a lot of action movies.
I always loved the line "This isn't the wild west! Hell the wild west wasn't the wild west."
I don't know how many times people have said 'it will be like the wild west' when talking about why they think we need more gun control. What they obviously don't know is the homicide rates then were lower than now!
The other quip that perfectly showcases their ignorance and lack of intelligence is 'it will be like the shootout at the Okay Corral!'
You mean the shootout where the only people who died were the 'criminals,' the shootout where all the law enforcement agents survived and NO bystanders were injured? I wish EVERY shootout had those kinds of results! (Ignoring for the time being that the entire reason there even was a shootout was because of gun confiscation laws. A point you would think would weaken their arguments but tactical stupidity is a thing after all...)
The "Wild West" did not have lower homicide rates than the modern United States, that is a ridiculous assertion. It is true that large parts of the united states had comparable or lower homicide rates than other cities at the time, but compared to today, you were on average between 3 and 5 times as likely to be murdered, with outliers in areas with large amounts of travel and ineffective law-enforcement having yearly homicide rates as high as 1 out of 1000.
@@xyxxanx9810 thanks for your baseless opinion
_"Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by and named after journalist, author, and public speaker Christopher Hitchens. Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."_
But even then, because I don't want to make baseless assertions like you
_"During a 15-year period in the late 1880s, there was an average of only three murders a year in Abilene, Caldwell, Dodge City, Ellsworth and Wichita - the five Kansas cities that served as significant railroad stops. This was far lower than murder rates in the eastern cities of New York, Baltimore or Boston at the time. (The city with the most murders of the five was Dodge City, which had 17 over nine years, less than two murders per year.)"_
_"There were pockets of violence, says Wild West historian Jonita Mullins, but even these “tended to be sensationalized by the press and dime novels of the day.”_
_"Even so, a typical frontier town of the 1880s was likely to be less violent than many cities today - you'd just never know it by the way murder rates are often calculated. In fact, the compilation of homicide rates during the Wild West-era may be one of the longest-running controversies among statisticians."_
@@gusmc2220 well put.
@@gusmc2220 So do I get this right; you make an assertion without evidence, which I then refute without evidence, after which you criticize me, by stating evidence-free assertions can be dismissed outright....... which is exactly what I did.
Also, only because you write something in cursive and put it into quote-marks, does not make it "evidence".
But at this point hypocrisy seems a well established tradition in this thread, so allow me;
"Was the “Old West” violent? Scholars have established that it was not as violent as most movies and novels would suggest. Murder was not a daily, weekly, or even monthly occurrence in most small towns or farming, ranching, or mining communities. Still, homicide rates in the West were extraordinarily high by today’s standards and by the standards of the rest of the United States and the Western world in the nineteenth century, except for parts of the American South during the Civil War and Reconstruction. Most data that historians have gathered are preliminary, based on a single source such as newspapers, legal records, or official statistics, rather than on multiple sources. They are minimum counts, not estimates of the number of homicides that occurred. But preliminary data are available for Oregon, British Columbia, Texas, nine counties in California (which together held 57 percent of the population of central and southern California), eight Native peoples in California, five cattle towns, five mining towns, and two counties each in Arizona and Colorado."
"To appreciate how violent the West was, we need to consider not only the annual homicide rate, but the risk of being murdered over time. For instance, the adult residents of Dodge City faced a homicide rate of at least 165 per 100,000 adults per year, meaning that 0.165 percent of the population was murdered each year-between a fifth and a tenth of a percent. That may sound small, but it is large to a criminologist or epidemiologist, because it means that an adult who lived in Dodge City from 1876 to 1885 faced at least a 1 in 61 chance of being murdered-1.65 percent of the population was murdered in those 10 years. An adult who lived in San Francisco, 1850-1865, faced at least a 1 in 203 chance of being murdered, and in the eight other counties in California that have been studied to date, at least a 1 in 72 chance. Even in Oregon, 1850-1865, which had the lowest minimum rate yet discovered in the American West (30 per 100,000 adults per year), an adult faced at least a 1 in 208 chance of being murdered."
"If we assume the towns and counties that have been studied to date were representative of similar towns and counties, and that their inhabitants were a fair sample of the inhabitants of similar towns or counties, we can also be confident (because of the laws of probability) that homicide rates were high in towns and counties that have not yet been studied. For instance, we can estimate that there is only a 1-in-200 chance that the homicide rate for all Western cattle towns was less than 97 per 100,000 adults per year, if the five cattle towns studied to date were typical (as there is every reason to believe). The chance that the rate in all cattle towns was low or moderate by the standards of the most of the rest of the United States and other Western nations-10 per 100,000 adults per year or less-is vanishingly small."
P.S.:I can´t figure out how you got that sweet cursive thing going, dammit.
Guess I´ll never reach your heights of internet-intellectualism.
@@xyxxanx9810 .i cannot prove or disprove (since you simply quoted things but didnt present the actual source). but im 100% sure, that chicago beats any murder town of the past
It's freaky how accurate this movie is now. Also, they should have stuck with Thomas Payne instead of Friendly. Cool name, cool reference, cool all-around.
Given its still 10 years away, I'd say the movie could be spot on
@@ingenierocristian How so?
Sargon made a video about this a couple years ago you can't find the good version on YT though anytime he tried to use clips it got claimed or removed
My main problem with that is that it’s a bit too ‘in your face.’ They _could_ have gone with another amalgamation, though (Alexander Payne, for Hamilton and Payne, maybe?).
I bet anything a producer or exec was against it. Though with the last name Friendly, it gives away he's ones of the good guys, especially in a time before subversions.
For me, one of the scariest predictions in this movie was the line, "We're police officers, we're not trained to handle this kind of violence!"
Looking at you, Great Britain...
And France, Norway, Spain, Italy, Portugal...
🤣 have you ever fought the police? Your average uniform aint shit but if they send the tactical aid lads all armoured up you really dont wana resist. They can, will and do FUCK YOU UP
Lol.....wait....you think our officers don't crack down on the public? The fact we can no longer carry firearms just means it's even easier for them to do so....look into Ian Tomlinson as just one example of many many many others.
@@leobullock3859 yeah because they only crack down on helpless people who post "offensive" memes online, not real criminals who shoot and stab people on the streets
Our cops use tasers & pepper sprays which effectively incapacitate criminals. We do have regional Armed Response Units like the US SWAT but only for more serious crimes involving firearms...
We're in this movie deeper than we'd like to believe
Quick watch it before it's deleted again
What?
My dad showed me this movie when I was around 10 and I was already starting to see the shift to the world this movie depicts.
Dennis Leary's rant was so good he got the other actors behind him almost breaking character by laughing... I love that rant
That's because he was just reading a slightly-modified version of his song "A[hole]" from his stand-up routine from 9 months before this movie came out (and was probably still fresh at the time of filming).
One of my favorite movies of all time. I can't believe how the pandemic has brought out some of the things that actually happened in this movie. Scifi made reality.
There's a huge difference between a power hungry dictator wanting to take away liberties and freedoms (1) and a pandemic which is undeniable deadly.
During a pandemic, the responsibilities towards each other outweighs some liberties and contrary to overindividualists.
In most free societies outside of the USA the balance between the freedoms laid out in the human rights and the need to protect each other from a deadly virus had been handled mostly well (one of the most sucessful countries was New Zealand, a democracy wit a lot of liberties) and many countries are already abandoning the strictest parts of the covid-regulations since those meassures were successful in those countries without a rightwinger travestie of freedoms.
The same goes with actual dictatorships like China in whcih the pandemic despite all of these overstrict lockdowns is still around and claims its victims.
Thanks to the politicization of the pandemic by fascist rightwingers like Bannon and authoritarians like Trump the USA had one of the worst death rates of any industrialized western countries.
(1) like Cocteau in the movie or Trump in the real world who even staged a coup d'etat to reverse a true democratic election which went against him, a man who is a consumate liar, rapist, traitor to the USA see the top secret papers he stole.
Horse shit
911 showed that
And none of you even dare mention it
They got you so bad you can't even admit it
I cant express enough how much I love Out Of Frame. It is by a large margin the best thing on youtube. And now you do one of my all.time favorite movies! It just doesnt get better!
I work with people with disabilities and there’s a phrase we use called “right to risk”. Which means that everyone has the right to participate in behaviors we may not see as ideal, like smoking, drinking, etc. and they have the right to experience the possible consequences because we all have that right.
The real dilemma a free society constantly faces is the determination of how others should be responsible for one's tendencies or circumstance, whether self-destructive or uncontrollable, such as the use of taxes, charities, public service, and overall governance. A free society is still in its terrible twos. And that's not even ascertaining the overwhelming element of corporations.
@@commandercaptain4664 no, the problem with a free society is the citizens natural desire for safety. the right to keep and bear arms is critical to the maintenance of a free state. not only to defend from outside threats, or criminals, but because it means your fellow citizens must always be dangerous, and unsafe, while simultaneously you must hold them personally responsible for themselves and their actions, because they retain ultimate responsibility over life and death, you cannot just allow them to be irresponsible, yet they can rebel violently if you push them to far.
Sadly, yes, and no - getting "high" has the added effect of making the user less smart, as well as making him "less lucky" or "making their destiny worse" (like dying, or becoming a cripple) - so, should people be allowed to do drugs (and yes, nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol, belong to this category just as cocaine and heroin)? Yes! Can they stay in society (outside of a closed facility) as they do so? No! Since if they do (as happens today), they decrease the freedom of everyone in society (as one of the avenues of the "worse destiny" they bring upon themselves).
We already know what happens when you forcefully mix and package good loans with bad loans - the 2008 housing crisis (all the loans become bad) - the same thing happens in current society: As long as the bad-behaving-people (druggies - anyone who uses any substance to get "high") are freely mixing with the not-bad-behaving-people (those who don't), everyone will be treated as bad-behaving-people - hence the shortages, the inflation, the censorship, and the rest of the plights of society, that eventually reduce the freedoms of everyone until people will no longer be able to do drugs (or everything will collapse, and a lot of people will die, thus buying years or even decades for the survivors, who will arrive at the same choice again - and yes, those who are unaware of this connection speak that process in the form of the following cycle: "Good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men, strong men create good times").
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- *"so, should people be allowed to do drugs (and yes, nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol, belong to this category just as cocaine and heroin)? Yes! Can they stay in society (outside of a closed facility) as they do so? No! Since if they do (as happens today), they decrease the freedom of everyone in society (as one of the avenues of the "worse destiny" they bring upon themselves). "*
The way I see it, is that if the person in question isnt bothering anybody, then theres no reason to bother them. If they are causing a ruckus, being violent and the like, then sure, they need to be dealt with, but if they are just sitting outside minding their own business, what business is it of yours or anybody elses to tell them they _cant_ do that? Sometimes people just want to be left alone, and the only way they can do that is by going outside. If people arnt causing an actual problem, then dont bother them.
@@SvendleBerries Sure! No need to isolate those who isolate themselves. I never said that the "closed facility" has to be centralized and/or govt. owned...
And even those who get into such a facility should stay there only until they quit drugs.
"Somewhere in the middle, I dunno you'll figure it out." Is also very accurate to the issue of society.
Yes people should be allowed to live their lives, eat that high-cholesterol, have that bucket of cheese. Companies should not however be allowed to Lie to their customers. Create 'healthy' options that aren't any healthier or might even be less healthy. Companies should not be allowed to get away with skewing nutrition facts to make things not look as bad as they might be, or find clever ways to skirt things, like people who want whole wheat but get away with marketing something as 'whole wheat' when it isn't by using the word 'contains.'
Risk is fine, so long as the only person at risk is yourself. People should be allowed t live their lives, so long as their lives don't infringe on others. The problem we are seeing is people going to far in enforcing the safety of the whole over the freedom of others, and this engenders distrust, resentment and eventually rage and malice against the whole, causing people to intentionally do things that put others at risk because it feels like their only way to lash out.
Also, "figuring it out" is a constant struggle, as are all things concerning morality, which concludes that there should've been 22 sequels by now, or as they're known nowadays as "a cinematic TV series".
my only issue is that it says it as an "in the middle". An issue I often have with people is that they think things like company rights and consumer rights are opposed when they just aren't. It is nuanced, but that nuance doesn't magically average out to a flat gradient, there are some things which are rights, somethings which are not, and some things that, sure maybe it would be nice if they were, but they still aren't and thats how it needs to stay. For instance : A company shouldnt be able to boldface lie about a product, but a company should be able to make that product as expensive and shitty as they like, so long as those features are avaliable for consumers to see and recognize before purchase. Things like exclusivity agreements are a common issue like this since some people think that that is a corporate right without realising those sorts of deals are fundamentally anti-competitive and lead to monopolization of markets.
Hear, hear!
I'm _SO_ glad you did this. _Demolition Man_ is one of my all-time favorite movies! ♥
the further we got away from 2010 .. the more i got the feeling demolition man was a prediction not fiction ..
cancel culture, "equity" over equality, hyper authoritarian nanny state "caring" about the citizens, wussyfication of police force, etc etc ..
This movie was nearly as prophetic as "idiocracy"
I really liked how John Spartan responded after realizing the scrap people just wanted food. It was wrong to beat up people who were desperate for food. How can anyone survive not being allowed to buy food or even basic shelter? Seeing how John stands up for basic human rights would make him an enemy to many governments around the world.
Only America and its ally, Israel. Pay attention.
“We’re police officers, we’re not trained to handle that kind of violence” is funny, ironic and genius on so many levels.
British "police" in Londonistan !!!
You know, out of all the movies that set themselves in a not too distant future, this one actually aged well.
True, however saying that a message of the past remains relevant to our modern times doesn't bode well for how stagnant our modern times have become. It's the same as lauding the phrase "yeah, but we're still talking about it" as a virtue. There really needs to be a movie about that (and call it Demolition Man 2).
@@commandercaptain4664 I agree that modern society is a little bit stagnant but the main problem is that our society now wants to pick the path of degradation. Things like life lessons, beliefs or traditions tested for thousands years are now obstacles.
Family? Who needs family. Marriage? Who needs marriage. I just want to be TikTok star posting empty nonsense. Women instead of choosing happy life pick Onlyfans were they sell their bodies. Self respect and meaning in your life? Fuck it fame and money is more important.
I could explain this better or mention a lot more but it's a youtube comment. It's hard to talk about topics like this clearly. Thing is stuff like sitting down and eating food with your family at a table is maybe ancient history. If I ever have family I would like to do this because sitting down, eating and talking about your day connects your family.
Just find stuff that makes you happy. Even living far from a big city will make you happier. Just do things that make you feel fulfilled.
For example I think having a house near a city is a good idea. You can play games and etc. Then I can take a short brake go outside chill a little bit and maybe grill something. Chop some wood for fireplace. You take care of your property and etc. It feels like living instead of staying alive in a box.
Demolition Man 2 is a dream that will never happen. Wokeness, Hollywood and etc would never allow for a movie like this to exist. I love this movie and I loved Equilibrium. Sadly I don't think we will see movies like this again.
Yep because Hollywood nowadays is just yet another arm of the Chinese communist party. I wish Hollywood would return to the way it was in the 1980s-2000s: making legitimately intelligent and fun movies and TV, not hammering its audience with a sludge hammer with destructive communist nihilism and virtue signaling.
@@grimoireweiss5203 logical end point of capitalism🤷
@@abelkommie the government controlling absolutely everything is not capitalism it’s socialism/fascism (same ideology really).
The essential idea of the Bill of Rights was to respect individual rights and with that, accept personal responsibility for the choices we make with that respect.
Another big thing about the us and Canadian founding documents is..
They are designed with one thing in mind. Freedom.
It's designed to enable liberty for all
We need more of that Now !!! Free speech , accountability for your actions is needed !!! EVERYWHERE , Especially in GOVERNMENT!!!🙏☝️🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲👍👍👍
I loved this one. You picked a favorite movie of mine and did a terrific job of dissecting it. It's sad and scary how much of it's plot has come to pass.
Demolition Man is my favorite Sylvester Stallone movie. You've echoed my reasons.
My father and I watched this movie All the time back when I was little, it was on tv at least once every other week, now you barely see it.
A Big-time critic Years ago called Demolition Man one of the best screen plays ever written. I agree. ( He was criticized heavily).
Falling Down. A movie that needs a deep dive. Unless you've already covered it.
Agree. I'm surprised that FEE has not already covered that movie.
people are only NOW realizing this. I have been yelling about this for like 2 years now!
There was originally a scene where he meets his daughter, but it was cut. That's probably why his wife and daughter are mentioned since that scene was already done. I've always thought Denis Leary's speech was ad-libbed, since it so closely matches his comedy routine rants, not just in delivery, but content. A flaw in Spartan's closing recommendations to Friendly and the police chief is that "they'll figure it out". They hadn't been able to figure it out so much in 30 years that they had warring ideologies. Not the best time to step aside.
Demolition Man 2 is WAY overdue.
@@commandercaptain4664 They F*ck it unless Stallone was at the helm.
You call it 1984 vs Brave New World
I call it "A Brave New Minority Animal Hunger V for Fahrenheit 1984 Vendetta Farm Games World 451 Report"
This movie is the Theatrical representation of this quote by C. S. Lewis.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
The fact that you had to censor out Stallone swearing in the scene where you talk about this dystopian future's draconian censorship is the highest irony.
Also Klaus Scwab reminds me of the "Evil Mr. Rogers" from this movie. Apparently Schwab even stole his wardrobe.
...In retrospect this future is *Really* on the nose
The people yapping about dystopia were the same ones who lost their shit over blacks using the "wrong" drinking fountains. And women voting.
@@Shoopuffishgud The fact that is the first place your mind goes when I said nothing of the sort indicates you are trying desperately to project your own shortcomings and failures onto me. Nice try though loser
I loved this movie back in the 90s,still love it today....hell i loved it so much i would play demolition man with gi joes back in the day...also to be honest i got to wonder how much the message of movies like this helped to form my belief system
I always loved this movie but I never realized just how intelligent this was. Truly, I’m gonna have to read “1984” soon.
Yeah, but how do you use the three shells?
We shall never know
Love Friendly's speech. I have used it as a quote more than a few times in life.
I caught that clip of Tom Naughton in his documentary "Fat Head". That's a great documentary, in great keeping with the Friendly Doctrine. And Tom's a great guy.
Have you ever done a series on documentaries? One on Fat Head would be great. That was Tom's answer to the scientifically vapid "Super Size Me".
I have talked about a couple documentaries on the series but those episodes never do super well. I was explicit about including Fathead though, cause my editor put in a clip of Supersize Me and I felt it was only fair.
@@FEEonline Sorry to disturb but would you have any link to the soundtracks you use in the background?
Love this movie and the 90s nostalgia that comes with it. I hadn’t realized when I saw it as a teen that it had so much reference to books I didn’t read until I became an adult. I feel like the original Judge Dredd is a very similar movie (mostly because of Stallone and Schneider). I’m curious what references it might have other than the comics it is loosely based on? Thanks for your amazing and thoughtful content!
This is one of my favorites and I’m glad she’s finally getting the well-deserved recognition she deserves.
Man I love this movie so much. Growing up as a kid, this movie was action packed and funny. Watching it again as an adult......... I start to notice all of the more nuanced aspects of it and yeah I totally agree...... this is the smartest dumb movie ever. It's a shame people are trying to make it into a reality but there are many of us who chooses our own path. Freedom is the right for all sentient beings
Thank you Optimus. Keep fighting the good fight.
Equilibrium is also another hidden gem that people never talk about. Incredibly written and very well directed that's set in a near dystopian year. Hands down one of the best gun Kuta action scenes I've ever seen in a movie.
they don't talk because the movie is crap and doesn't make any sense
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Anyone figured out yet how to use the three seashells? That aside, this film has always been good to watch. Scary how much has come true. We literally live in that world. From being forced to have medication injected against our informed decisions, for our safety of course [even though tens of thousands have died from it], to a dumbed down populace who thinks you are dangerous for thinking on your own two feet. I guess people like me will have to live underground soon, we are already called all those things they call the free people in the film and denied access to certain places.
you use seashells like you would use eyeglasses or your hand. its a way of commenting that this supposedly clean and hygiene is incredibly disgusting when you look into it.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Well done as always, but I still don't know what the 3 seashells do...
"You got that right. See, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener".
- Edgar Friendly
Stallone is always a win so you don't have to tell me twice
I’m sure that wasn’t the point of the film, but it’s interesting how it tackles things that both the left and the right are trying to (or at least claim they) warn about. For the left: police brutality, need of prison and justice system reform, police departments inefficient at dealing with certain crimes, classism and poverty, big business monopolies, maybe even abortion laws/lack of reproductive rights (though this was minimally mentioned as part of a joke).
For the right: media control, censorship, over regulation, overreaching gun control, safety above liberty, systemic control…
This gonna sound very David F. Nolan of me, but the movie, even if indirectly, highlights how all of those issues I mentioned have nothing to do with left or right and are all just issues of authoritarianism. Of course, if you’ve been radicalized into any of the wings the movie will serve as more of a Rorschach test than a warning about authoritarianism, but I do believe most people are level minded and will understand the underlying message behind it. And if not, at least there’s this video to explain it 🤷🏻♂️
By all means, you're welcome to sound like David Nolan all you want here :)
In the demolition man world ,crime in LA is through the roof. If you see at the beginning ,cops are driving military vehicles: humvee and chopper. John is wearing his military uniform .
Criminals have anti aircraft guns ,heavy explosives and a huge network throughout the city ,in the opening when you see all the bullets flying through the air. It could only mean these criminals were former military with special skills or they just got very creative .
Aside from being really confused how you lined up those topics, I think the movie just touched on the more important point, most of the people in the political spheres talking about solving any of these problems offered no good solutions.
It basically just takes a common sense standpoint of showing what happens if people get the way that they try to push things, and shows that the issues are innate to the necessity more often than not. It does this in two typical forms that you see repeated, banning things that are bad, and removing things that are harmful. Banning things that are bad does nothing besides make you have less options, removing things that are harmful simply creates a world where no one can essentially defend against those harmful things. It's pretty simple but pretty direct in critique, it's just impressive how many of the topics that they got in the movie.
It took me quite a while to realize that “utopia” can’t exist. We just have to make the best of our lot in life.
the word utopia means no such place
A classic movie you should do: The Man in the White Suite
The original Obi Wan Kenobi, a simple sci-fi premise, a thorough follow through, and significant moral questions about technology and progress, as well as liberty vs power. Maybe my favorite all time film!
I love this movie! Scary how it became a prophecy
Said this for years about this film. Terminator 2 was also just so accurate also. And in demolition man. This is actually what’s happening now. But lots of people can’t see it
I love that film. Have you considered doing Dr. Strangelove? What is so terrifying about the best dark comedy ever made is how cogent Gen. turgison's argument for an all out attack on the Russians is once a squadron of bombers have been sent to hit their targets by Gen. Ripper. Slim Pickens does a great job of playing a fcolorful but duty driven aircraft commander who has total faith in a commanding officer that has gone insane.
I remember as a kid saying this was going to be the future and man we are headed right to this. I never knew what the 3 seashells meant though
I highly recommend watching Sargon's analysis video on the politics of this movie. It's fantastic.
you love denis leary's speech so much you cut the best parts of it :P
by the way this was a great vid
I am totally surprised FEE is explaining Demolition man!
There is just too much caveats about dystopian future "safe" Society with the Greek tragedy like Hero being sent to prison and an under dog trope about the same hero uses profanity to get toilet paper! 😂
I remember watching this movie like 10 years ago, and I thought the argument was kind of ridiculous because there is no way the society would get so weak and pusillanimous, but didn’t care it was a nice action flick with Stallone and Snipes both great action icons, but then years went by and this is getting more close to reality in just 10 years, that is terrifying, WTF? I’m one of those subterranean people now.
This movie is a classic I will always have it in my library no matter what.
0:30 Yeah talking about it Demolition Man is the one movie that does deserve a remake !
I thought OOF had done an episode on "Starship Troopers" (1997), but going back in the archive, I couldn't find one. If "The Demolition Man" warrants a deconstruction of its social commentary, the movie of "Starship Troopers", although barely recognizable as being based on the Robert A Heinlein book of the same name (because it's not), certainly deserves a break down in an OOF episode.
We did a podcast about it, but that's it.
Superb film, fantastic rundown. Nailed it Sean, yet again :)
This and Idiocracy all but predicted what was going to happen.
Sir Humphrey Appleby's rise didn't stop at Permanent Cabinet Secretary!
Nigel Hawthorn was a perfect casting, it helps if you know his other major role as Sir Humphry Applebee who basically was the same character but British.
Check out the anime Dr. Stone if you can. I think there are a number of lessons you can pull from it. The premise is that after a strange green light petrifies every human being a highschooler named Senku manages to free himself 3400 years later. Nothing of civilization remains but Senku does have an incredible scientific mind he intends to use to solve the mystery of the petrification event and reestablish a technological civilization from a new stone age.
Two points in particular are that Senku is smart enough to know that his brains alone aren't up to the task, and he needs many people of differing skills to say make an electric generator using only base materials or how the initial antagonist, a man named Sukasa, is not only doing something wrong but his goal itself is based on the fixed pie fallacy.
Any of John Carpenter's "Escape" movies would fit well into this channel.
Considering how insane the laws have change so drastically in both LA & NYC in favor of criminals.
I agree but the guy who made the video wants you to believe that it’s the violent cops of today that the movie didn’t get right..I’d like to see how he would handle life on the street with some people who would like to hurt you.
Wonderful video. I'm so blown away that such a smart film is hiding in what looks on the surface a stupid popcorn flick. It's a million times better than the total garbage that Hollywood has been shovelling in recent memory.
You also missed that is was weirdly accurate on the Taco Bell Takeover at the time - as it did nearly happen. And it is absolutely a poke on how centralized our society has become.
Main villain is played by Nigel Hawthorne , famous for playing devious Civil Servant Humphrey Appleby in MARVELOUS and SMART 80s series "Yes, Minister". Well worth watching and explaining other side of the coin.
Demolition Man is an awesome movie, and I was pleasantly surprised to see a shockingly honest representation of a libertarian representing the setting's anti-state faction; an underground dwelling, homemade firearm crafting, hamburger eating, charismatic bearded freedom fighter opposing the moral authority of the state with ideas such as free speech and self determination.
Taco bell is going to win the franchise wars, Matt pat said so:
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this movie is getting closer and closer to reality
This movie was really far ahead of its time. It's not only one of Stallone's greatest roles (same with Sandra Bullock), but it also got blasted by the self-important, hypocritical critics who failed to see the satire and just dismissed the movie as a macho, dumb action by an actor they considered themselves to be far smarter to. The irony flew right over their heads when they were, themselves, being exposed on the screen for their vanity and hipocrisy as the see themselves as "our betters". As has been said, the obsession with "saving humanity" is actually an urge to control it.
Unlike Starship Troopers, which is a failed attempt at satire from a mostly incapable director, Demolition Man is a testament to how good satire can be made in cinema. Sargon of Akkad made a great analysis of this movie and the libertarian ideals in it with the video "The Politics of Demolition Man". Highly recommended, even if my favorite of his is "The Politics of Starship Troopers".
"You can't take away people's right to be assholes"
- Simon Phoenix
The movie has become almost a documentary now with how oblivious certain segment of society has become…
Loved the video. Excellent video essay.
Can you do an Out of Frame episode on *Team America: World Police*
Omg yes make it happen 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Now this is a great breakdown and review. Thanks for all the work you out into this.
I’m not sure if 1996 LA or 2030s San Angeles is more a accurate depiction of present day California. They’re both frighteningly close to reality though lol.
Depends on where you are in the city I guess.
One thing has been bugging me since this movie came out.
How do you use the gorram. Three. Shells!?
It has always been such a brilliant movie... And that speech... Perfection!
Freedom is necessary for societal evolution. One of the major issues for authoritarian regimes is that Freedom to criticise is not allowed which leads to stagnant societies which collapse. The only way to improve a society is to criticise or rather laught at its ineptitude. In the UK there was a show called Yes Minister which criticised the system through comedy.
"Yes Minister" is a must watch for anyone with some interests in politics.
I love this movie, friggin awesome.
Stallone’s reaction to Schwarzenegger been a former President was funny 😂😂
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well done, bro. This was fair to the concept and explained the movie well. It certainly is one of the best, and still underrated.
This really is the fun dumb action movie on the surface that's actually a scathing satire just beneath it. It was a great film, it's sad the director didn't go on to do much else as mentioned.
Edgar Friendly is truly an awesome character.
Are you gonna do an Out Of Frame episode on the movie Equilibrium? I feel like that would be a good one. Either way, great video! Love the channel!
Coming back after watching the review... Yeah. I agree with a lot.
But it's hard to let people have their freedom to have a borderline police state in the big blue cities when they're demanding that everyone else obey their mandates, and refusing to listen when we say "WE'RE HUMAN TOO!".
I just love the background music you include in your videos. Beautiful.
Was a fun movie
"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
---Benjamin Franklin
"Demolition Man" and basically most of Paul Verhoeven's movies are terrifying accurate portray of today's society, and it is so crazy that is borderland Orwellian 1984.