Maybe I missed something when watching, but I'm still confused about Vault 32. Even though there was a video about "mouse utopia" on one of the TVs, I assume the occupants went crazy and killed eachother because they found out about Vault 31 and the "management"? What I don't understand is why didn't Hank or the other Bud's Buds didn't seem to know about it before the marriage exchange. If Hank, Betty, etc knew that the occupants of Vault 32 were already dead (due to no word from the Overseer's terminal), then they would have known the people on the other side of the door were someone else, i.e. wastelanders. Also, why didn't the radiation detectors go off when Moldaver's crew entered their vault?
Vault 31 does not have direct view of other two Vaults. We know that, because Bud doesnt know he is leting in Norm, not Betty. From what happpened I assume that there was first someone who dicovered role of Vault 31, then started revolution, and first think I would do would be cuting Overseer's comunication. Because Vaults comunicate only in extreme situations, no info from 32 will not be seen as something wierd.
ALL your question are explained in Mauler's review channel of the show. Title of the video is "Fallout a world on fire" on Mauler's channel. In short: Show care about stuff looking good, and ZERO CARE about making sense, or continuity, or history in the games.
It is important to note that the mouse utopia is pseudoscience at best. Every repeat experiment did not produce the results mentioned. Also calling those mice "the beautiful ones" hints at the worldview of the people doing the first experiment.
@@Klikoderat The experiment has been reproduced 52 times, giving similar results with minor change. Go spew your lies somewhere else. Even 2 worse critic of this test had to choice to admit, it was sound.
Awesome work. Love this show. Goggins has to be the most underrated actor of his generation. The dude steals every scene. He needs to win major awards for his performance. Didn’t think I’d like Lucy at the beginning but she really grew up a lot.
We'll probably get an explanation at some point. In my mind, these kinds of things have been purposely left out of season 1 to generate more mystery and answers to look forward to and theorize about in the meantime.
She DID work for Vault-Tec - she mentioned they bought out her all companies. As she was rather leading scientist. she de facto was Vault-Tec employee after aquisitons. She could have vault ticket then. ( But it's seems a bit strange, as she was so oppose to what V-T was doing. )
I kinda thought maybe she got into Hanks Tank in 31, after all they pretended to come from a long dead 32 and from the state of that vault there is no way they were just surviving in there. May also have been why Buds brain was walled off in that little makeshift cage of random objects. I may be wrong but to me it’s all that could make sense.
My favorite game series by far. None of the games are connected in terms of story. They are all unique in their own way with their own story. Hundreds of hours of quest lines in all of them combined.
I swear I remember within the show that there were a hand full of references to Maldaver talking about how her and other scientists were working on a tool to keep people alive for ever to continue working on their experiments until Vualtec bought out the studies or the company they were working for. I’m pretty sure Maldaver was telling this to the ghouls character when she was persuading him to spy on his wife’s work. I am pretty sure Maldaver might have developed a tool to stay immortal, can’t die due to natural death, which explains her continued existence and slow aging.
I love the people who dont understand how timelines work, or what "fall" means in this context. Even when it's fully explained to them, how it works, and what it means, they're still like "eeeeh, doesn't line up if you ask me..." or "sounds like copium". Just an absolute refusal to admit they were wrong even in the face of absolute proof. It's fascinating really
I literally don't understand how it was interpreted wrong. Every single date is right under the event its describing. The picture of the bomb has no date, but is listed AFTER the "wrong" date, with an arrow denoting it as a separate event. I would say people are just arguing in bad faith but it seems that most people didn't read the board like this. I just don't get it.
My prediction for season 2 is that Cooper tracks his family down to Vault 0. I know it was ejected from the cannon but it fits in perfectly into this show as Vault 0 was where data from all the other vaults was sent in order to plan the perfect new society, which is now what Vault-tec was trying to do. Cooper's wife said she was trying to get them into a monitoring vault, which is exactly what Vault 0 is. Cooper's daughter could be in cryostasis in there along with the Vault-tec higher ups and maybe his wife is one of those brains hooked up to the Calculator.
Weekly drops to me are more fun. You get to think about the episode over the week, talk about it with friends, watch recap videos, etc. I also love having something to look forward to watching each week, we usually do a Friday thing, go out to dinner, watch the latest episode of whatever show has dropped. So I am with you, weekly drops are better than a binge drop.
(Fall of Shady sands)-------->(bomb) you see timelines are simple, the arrow in the timeline indicates an event in the future, so the arrow indicates the fall happened and then the bomb dropped later.
Timelines are easy. Each date on the timeline is when something happened. The last one is a year with an unrelated date before something happened with an arrow indicating an undisclosed amount of time passed between the date and the event. The "Fall of Shady Sands" happened when Hank dropped the nuke. You could say when Shady Sands fell down to the second the bomb hit.
I think it’s pretty clear how Maldover survived; I also think it’s very provocative that she would awakened AFTER the NCR campaigned to control the power supply of the dam in “New Vegas”: the events of that game could be why she was defrosted, kinda making Vault-Tec’s targeting of Shady Sands inevitable
I believe she was the actual reason of the bombing. As soon as Vault-Tec realized she was alive, they saw her as a real treat and tried to kill her, Shady Sands was just collateral damage
And house probably helped hank do it. House probably felt directly threatened by the NCRs audacity to come after his beloved city. I think both house and Hank also feel like THEY are the one who should he in charge not some above ground self-made government. Which goes into a theory I have. It's possible moldaver is evil, like hank warned Lucy, but she is still rivals with the Management group.
@@Livvvid maybe but unlikely: House was the most wary of Vault-Tec at that admittedly very brief glimpse of the meeting; the only reason he would assist Hank in using a nuke on Shady Sands would be to expend a Vault-Tec nuke somewhere other than New Vegas; my theory is that Maldover, while likely being wealthy enough to secure private cryo preservation, was secluded and cryoslept w/ House’s own cabal such that she would be able to furnish cold fusion for him From what I can tell, House was more directly threatened by the Legion and the Brotherhood and was more or less ambivalent towards the NCR
Been a big fan of your reviews since finding your channel. I have really enjoyed your recent review on Shogun but the highlight for me was For All Mankind. Viewing habits and tv production has changed. I grew up in the era of shows like Star Trek TNG, Quantum Leap and X-files. Those were lengthy shows with seasons lasting 20-24 episodes. When you factored in a brief mid-season hiatus... that was half the year. People were invested in the weekly stories but also the greater arc. The anticipation for having to wait a whole week was part of the enjoyment, but now shows are just a quick fix. It was great going to school or going to work and discussing each episode.
Show takes 15 years after events of new vegas game. Bombing probably happened 15 or 14 years ago based on maximus being a kid when it happened. As you said it is not really ambigious
The amount people have tunnel visioned into that one date makes me think there is just a portion of the fans who were never going to be content with this show no matter what they did. I feel sorry for them because for whatever reason they’re stopping themselves from enjoying something amazing. This was everything I ever wanted from a Fallout TV show like in my eyes this couldn’t have been better.
I can't speak for anyone else and don't really have grievances that seem to drive a lot of people. I just watch shows as a job and try to follow the details that they're using to tell the story. It seemed like they were telling the story of the bombs dropping after Fallout New Vegas so I went to check the dates to make sure that worked for Maximus' age sometime in episode 4 or 5. It did match up so I was expecting that to be the reveal. That's why it was confusing when the board had a completely different year. It didn't ruin the show or my experience or ignite some long-term gripe I had against the company. It was just a detail that didn't make sense which is unfortunate when you're job is to give an overview of what happened.
I also think it was a general history. Aka 2077 saw the bomb destroy shady sands, but it doesn't say when in 2077 and neither does it make it unplausible no one would talk about it 40? odd years later in New Vegas. I never played NV though, as at that time, that was by a different studio than the first two studios by the people whom made mistakes in the F2. So I refused to play it. Probably a mis-namer on my part there, in hindsight.
The shady sands date issue was in a vault though, wasn't it? And vault dwellers were told all kinds of nonsense so perhaps it was just misinformation... also the nuke sketch had a small arrow between 2277 (think that's the date) and the sketch.. think people are hanging onto it as a mistake too heavily
My thoughts too. I also heard Oxhorn (who I love) say that he was upset that we know Vault-Tec's intentions... That we now know that Vault-tec wanted to perfect humanity or whatever. But we don't know that. All we know is she used that as a pitch in a meeting with potential investors. She would have said anything to get them to cough over money... Anything. So, we still don't know what Vault-Tec's true intentions are.
We will get a better date, but we know the fall started before the destruction, and weren't at the same time.... Though idk why you would write that on a timeline. I'm trying to think of a real world example and I'm failing.
There is no date when the bomb hit Shady Sands. It’s say the fall of Shady Sands, that doesn’t mean the bomb fell that year. Then it’s moves on ahead to the bomb, but there is no date.
This would be wild, but if we know anything about Norm is that he never does as he's told and we never get to see him actually enter a pod, we only hear Bud telling him to do so. What if he decides to go against it and initiates some kind of defrosting protocole on all the bigwigs so Bud would have to let them all out? That would be some nice chaos if we got those characters running about.
looking forward to seeing a live action cut of House using missile defense to intercept the ICBMs as they attempt to reign on Vegas. That’s gonna be an awesome action sequence.
This show for me was the most refreshing and thoroughly entertaining since I took a punt on a new show called 'The Expanse' :D .........NEXT I think will be 'Shogun' as I loved the original yrs ago.
I am still very pro binge release but I would be happy with 2 eps per week. This is probably the best damn live action adaptation ever, imo. They did such a great job on this.
in a show brimming with good acting, my personal favorites were probably Johnny Pemberton (as the most human human in the whole wasteland) and Jon Daly (as the snake oil doctor with ...peculiar tastes and an effective but weird ace under his stinky sleeve); maybe I side with who thinks comedians are usually astonishingly good actors.
I don't like the theme or setting (post-apocalyptic 'humans are the real enemy" stuff) and played only New Vegas for a little (some 5 hours), but I very much enjoyed this series. All of the characters are fun and/or interesting to watch, which is kinda rare these days, and the comedy has a tone that feels right. Will keep watching and recommending
I've played all of Fallouts and it's my absolutely favourite game in the world! ❤❤❤ The plots of the games and situations in the games are more complicated than in the 1 season, so I hope they come up with the next season soon 😊 And the crue did a really good job ❤ So my message for the fans is- IT takes time to come up with a really good result, before you can release the 2nd season, when the 1st season was so successful 😊
I think tv shows were so much more fun and social when they were weekly release. It's just my opinion and I love binging, but I miss that anticipation of waiting for the drop after talking with my other friends who watched during the week.
Which wouldn't make sense with the story they're telling. It may make sense later when they explain that, but for now, there is no mention of anything leading to the fall. There is mention that Rose found a wonderful community on the surface she wanted to join and Hank ended it with a nuke.
I'm assuming we're going to see a repeat of the Elder Lyons situation that we encountered in F3 with this Elder going his own way since he now possesses cold fusion and has access to the airship. Since the NCR was rather a large faction, it's likely they still have outposts under their protection so maybe they return in New Vegas. The enclave will likely be the faction to oppose the Brotherhood since they also have Power Armor and similar technology. Moldaver could be a clone or maybe she was frozen by Mr. House since the group from the meeting did get vaults.
Great show & I’m a non game player. I love streaming TV shows and would prefer the week to week yet I would like to see prime continue to do 2 or 3 episodes released at once to get started. Most of the unanswered questions aren’t too important to me but knowing what’s up with Thaddeus does stick out to me as I truly despised him throughout the show. Lol. Always cool to see Pete covering shows that I watch. I haven’t gone with Shogun yet, may have to give it a shot
Think about this: if the bombing of shady sands happened during F:NV, would the troopers there know? To my understanding, the NCR doesnt pocess long range communications devices -- only short range. So, if the capital was destroyed they would need to send a courier from the NCR to Nevada. That's my thoughts at least.
is easy to open vault 31 from the inside, just tell the brain on wheels that you are going to kill everyone if he doesnt open the vault, he already change the plans when he couldnt kill him and risk everything let him live highly likely that maximus becomes the next ncr leader, since their family was a part of and also he saw all the sacrifice their leader did for bringing this energy probably hank is going to an emergency headquarters but the ghoul wife wont be there, thats for season 3 at least
4:29 The timeline is not wrong youre just miss understanding it... The Fall of Shady Sans means that its no longer as strong as it was but still exists & there is no specific date given for when the bombs fell
yeah I interpreted it like "The fall of Rome" it just meant that Shady sands started declining in 2077 and after the events of new vegas got completely destroyed.
I'm not misunderstanding it, you're reinterpreting it with the desired answer in mind. Look at the timeline, every other entry is for a specific date that something happened. The show told us that the Fall of Shady Sands happened in an instant when Hank dropped a nuke on them. Your interpretation requires us to say well the last date is just different than the others and is related to a thing the show never introduced.
@@PetePeppers1correct me if I’m wrong but in Todd Howard’s recent interview. He specifically says that the the “fall of shady sands” isn’t referring to when the nuke was dropped. It means as said above that the city is in a decline and things aren’t going very well for its occupants. Even in new Vegas when you talk to NCR citizens they mention that shady sands isn’t doing so well. There is no specific date yet for when the nuke dropped. All we know right now is that it happened right after the events of new Vegas. P.S love your content
@@PetePeppers1 So if you look at the Time line you can see the "Fall of Shady Sands" is not the end cap of the timeline... The line & arrow head mean that the next event in the timeline is the bomb 💣 in school they teach us that the Arrows on either end of a time line are pointing to the future & the past.
@@PetePeppers1 The last date doesn't have to change for this interpretation to be correct because the last date is not for the last event on the board. You can argue the show did a bad job of conveying information but telling people they're reinterpreting something because you didn't understand the source material is arrogant. The sign declaring Shady Sands as the first capital even supports there being a gradual fall, it's not something that is only being explained outside of the source material.
Im going to assume the show is going to go with the ending of New Vegas that assumes you chose to side with Mr House. It think thats a safe assumption considering theyve already introduced him. I also assume, since season 2 will take place post New Vegas, that well get to see the continuation of the legions activities, and perhaps even whats left of the NCR.
Amazon will insist on a weekly release -- probably after dropping the first 2 or 3 episodes. They seem to have a reasonably good-sized hit on their hands here.
I wonder if the word “Fall” is used more like it is when referring to the “Fall of Rome”. It didn’t happen in one go, it happened over a period of time
So many people confuse LORE with STORY. There's a reason it was Christopher Tolkien who published The Silmarillion; it was world-building fluff, stuff that's nice to know, but ultimately not really needed to understand the main story.
Sorry if Im repeating others. You keep saying "Dropped the first bomb." Thought we all knew from the Oppenheimer movie that these bombs are to be detonated above not at ground level. In the show those were ground level (and no trails) leading me to believe the bombs were triggered inside buildings
🤷🏾♀️ all media besides from that one movie always shows them hitting the ground. So I wouldn't be surprised they will keep it like that. No different then how radiation waste isn't green at all 😂 it looks like sand mix with mug. You can Google pictures of it
I do agree that I liked the Series very much ( that is 7 or 8 out of 10), from games perspective series done a lot very well, design, style all the details were great. However, attention to the detail in story itself was poor, I would even go as far as saying the writing was sloppy, overly convenient, lucky etc. Also it seems at least in one place the story confuses Raiders with NCR, which isn't immediately apparent, but becomes clear in the last episode.
i think thats the beauty of the fallout games and show, each game has its own individual story set in the wasteland. none of the stories directly tie into each other so its cool how you can hop into any game or into the show and you're not missing anything
@@PetePeppers1 My thinking is that it was a production error confusing the date of the Great War which happened in 2077. Much like the chalkboard at the start of Ep 1 that Lucy did. In universe explanation is…whoever did the chalkboard was just wrong.
3:55 keep in mind vault 4 is mostly test subjects extrwmly deformed and since there not a breedinf pool before accepting the outsiders its a good chance they are extremly inbreed
Not sure how you missed the interview apparently or misinterpreted it and the chalkboard, its been explained. Fall doesn't mean destruction, fall means conflict. Bomb without a date means bombs fell but not sure when.
Yeah, I saw that but even Todd Howard didn't jump on that as an official explanation. He nodded politely to move on after the interviewer kept repeating it. There is no conflict. Hank found out his wife wanted to live on the surface and that led to him dropping a nuke. That's the story the show told us. I thought the show was great and it doesn't take away from my overall enjoyment of that. If they want to make that the explanation that's fine but it doesn't seem like something they would do intentionally.
@@PetePeppers1My biggest question is what happened to Janey. She was with Coop when the first bombs fell. She wasn't with Barb, so how did she get separated from Coop after he started riding on his horse. Also, when one of the other fathers at that birthday party asked why Coop would stoop to working a birthday party, another responded "alimony", hinting at the fact that Barb and Howard were separated. When did that happen? I believe it was when she discovered that Howard had put a bug in her pip-boy. Regardless, I still want to know how Janey went from being with Howard when the bombs fell, to apparently being back with her mother safe somewhere.
I'm a binger, but maybe we could meet in the middle. Release 2, then 3, then 3 again. Best of both worlds i guess. I personally cant stand the 1 episode per week release schedule.
A lot do, and so do advertisers. It gives them time to analyze the data, which is much better than the 1 drop data, and gives people time to talk and theorize and spread word of mouth if it's good.
Literally no one wants this , the only reason the guy in the video even mentioned it is so he can milk every episode with a video , a very selfish opinion.
@@jamesmoran7391 I mean there IS an argument to be made about people exchanging ideas and having the hype build up each week, think of shows like "Lost" or "Game of Thrones" where the being of that show is somewhat elevated through its audience talking and thinking about it. However, from an art/consumer perspective, the possibility of ultimate immersion through binging is just the holy grail. You are probably right, F the ads people, art and immersion shall prevail! It SHOULD be more about our connection to the medium than about the collective perception.
I never played the game, have no intention to play. I thought the show stood on its own without the game. I really enjoyed it without knowing the game.
Not just a game, it's a series of games. There are multiple Fallout games. However it was owned by Interplay first before it was sold to Bethesda in 2007. The gameplay in the old games is very different. You don't have to play in order. You start each game with a different main character who you can customise. They take place in different areas over different timelines. Fallout 1 and 2 are the more old school style turn based RPG. Fallout 3 and New Vegas go first person though not as agile as other FPS games. They're RPGs mainly. These games may not look as appealing by today's standards since these came out on PS3 and Xbox 360 systems. Fallout 4 is also first person with the combat improved though things have been made more simple. It's easy to get into for newcomers. It's the last main Fallout game. Fallout 76 is similar to Fallout 4 in terms of graphics but it's an online game so you don't have to play this unless you want to play online. Fallout Shelter is on mobile but it's not the normal type of game. It's about managing a vault with vault dwellers. So you can download it if you want. Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel I have heard mixed things about. Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel was the first console Fallout game and last Interplay Fallout as the company Interplay failed and lost most of its staff. Fallout on consoles didn't become a success until Fallout 3 and that's when Fallout became mainstream.
I know for a fact vault tec did not drop the bombs. With the wife being so high up in the company why would she allow him and their daughter to attend a birthday party, they would have already been in a vault if they knew it was coming that day.
It was hinted they are split up at that point when another dad says hes paying alimony. I bet daughter had a spot in vault and ghoul got her there like fallout 4 opening, hes still looking for her afterall.
@@saiga3 oh yeahhh I completely forgot about that! I can’t wait for season 2 I have so many questions hahaha I’m also glade they’re extending the time line further
Why was there even a birthday party going on at 6:47am. Bombs dropped at 9:47am on eastcoast as Nate and Nora were in Boston preparing for their day. Thats a plothole the size of the grand canyon.
I have to disagree about Norm going into the cryotube. Norm is a deceptively intelligent character. I think he'll either start destroying/unplugging cryopods until Bud Brain agrees to let him leave, but I think Bud will ONLY let him leave the vault for the surface and not go back to 32, and we'll get to see Norm survive while looking for his sister & father. That or he uses his computer knowledge to override or destroy Bud and escape. Norm was such an unexpected stand-out character. I highly doubt they'll put him on ice for too long. Norm ended up being my second favorite character in the series.
Season 1 was a home run and I look forward to Season 2 but executive producers Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy give me pause based on their handling of Westworld.
Weren't some scenes filmed in Namibia ([German] {sic} Southwest Africa)? A country known for its desolate & beautiful Skeleton Coast (and notably NOT Utah or New York) & endless, uninhabited dunes and desert, very evocative of a post-apocalyptic Southern CA
I read something to that effect but the Hollywood Reporter article I was referencing that mentioned the move to California listed New York and Utah as the primary filming locations.
My biggest question is what happened to Janey. She was with Coop when the first bombs fell. She wasn't with Barb, so how did she get separated from Coop after he started riding on his horse. Also, when one of the other fathers at that birthday party asked why Coop would stoop to working a birthday party, another responded "alimony", hinting at the fact that Barb and Howard were separated. When did that happen? I believe it was when she discovered that Howard had put a bug in her pip-boy. Regardless, I still want to know how Janey went from being with Howard when the bombs fell, to apparently being back with her mother safe somewhere.
Yeah, when he confronts Hank he says where is my family which hints she they were together but there is still a lot we don't know about what happened after he listened in on their meeting.
8:50 The cyropods were exclusively for Vault-Tec executives, & she is the kost vocal person speaking out against Vault-tec... Why would VT give a cyropod space to someone who thinks their company is evil & why would she even trust Vault-tec when shes the one telling people not to trust them
yeah, I guess I should have mentioned that Vault Tec was buying companies up and more specifically every company she ever worked for. it wouldn't be difficult to explain how she got access to one.
They may work the show into future games but for now I’m fine with treating this as it’s own thing. The games were always a personal experience (not 76) and head canon will never match up with what God Howard decrees. Did love the show and wasn’t hung up on the changes.
VT didn’t drop the first bomb. There’s no way their daughter would’ve been anywhere but a vault if Barb knew the bombs were about to drop. I think that scene was just supposed to show the nature of VT and run home how they were committed to ending the world.
Besides, they didn’t need to drop the bombs. The whole point of the discussion at Vault Tec is what they’d do if peace was going to break out. If it was going to, THEN they’d drop the bomb. The war was raging at the very end, so it wasn’t actually necessary…unless…they wanted to control the timing, but all the lore and events seem to indicate they failed that.
WTF is the NCR, is my main question. I don't like how they conflicted the times though with Shady Sands. I mean, it's clear it was abandoned in 2277 and then nuked later, as the arrow shows, though 30k still died, but still. I just don't get why they didn't make it later. We already know Vault-Tech dropped the bombs. As in Fallout 3, the nuke in the center of the town, has a Vault-Tech logo on it. And we don't see a missile streak in the show with the first bomb.
Honestly I think weekly releases really make for stronger online fan communities too. In the case of Velma I don’t think people would’ve talked about it for as long if it all dropped at once. And that’s coming from a Velma apologist.
Muldaver is a clone. I am sure that a variant will appear next season. Norm can just pick up the Roomba and shake it til Bud lets him out. Going into cryosleep at the behest of a brain in a vat, with huge ulterior motives, immediately is stupid. Norm can threaten to upend everything. He's got options.
Here me out. Spoilers below for the video games that are canon to the events of the TV show. Hank fled to New Vegas because he knows that the canon ending to Fallout: New Vegas is The House Always Wins, so Robert House is still alive, with Courier Six (who could easily be named "Sihks") as his right hand man. Once Hank arrives at the steps of the Lucky 38, he briefly encounters the Courier on his way back out into the Wasteland after delivering very precious cargo from the Commonwealth. A perfect, synth replica of the C.I.T.s most prestigious alumnus, Robert Edwin House. House agrees to help/shelter Hank, in exchange for transferring his consciousness into his new synth body. It's the natural progression for the character of House to want a synth body, and he has displayed long range communication capability (finding the Platinum Chip after losing it for 200 years and organizing it's arrival to New Vegas), so he could easily communicate with the Institute before their destruction (and quite possibly since the bombs fell, as the Institute's goals, while more heavy handed, align with House's) and have the Courier travel to the Commonwealth, retrieve a commissioned synth body, and return it to New Vegas, all in between the end of New Vegas, and the beginning of Fallout 4. The writers did an amazing job during Season 1, and have clearly done their homework. I think this might be where the show takes the story.
Who cleaned vault 32 in just 24 hours? Nobody from 33 could have done it without the rest of them finding out. And in vault 31 everyone's in hibernation... So who did it and how?
The Vaults are huge aside from inhabitant living space, and the show demonstrates that underground volume: plenty of room to store Robco robots to handle such things
@@hellfish2309 That was my guess as well, however they haven't shown a single robot in any of the vaults so I assumed that maybe there weren't any. And if robots could have done it, why didn't they much earlier, why was everything just left to rot for at least several months? Vault 32 and what happend there makes no sense IMHO.
@@nuneke0 1) it builds mystery and suspense from the POV of Norman, who is the audience’s through-line to unravel some of what’s happening in the triple Vault and make the 31er’s that much more imposing; 2) the robots are likely not for regular use seeing as the 32 and 33 dwellers are supposed to cultivate managerial skills in a meritocracy and relying on robot labor disrupts that agenda; 3) more robots onscreen for such a minor plot point costs more CG they could smartly spend elsewhere, and doing so would only nerf the mystery as per ⬆️ point 1
I hope the shadowy Vaul-tec CEO is played by Ron Perlman. they really did a god job with this adaption. I was so worried that we would get another HALO but dam..they knocked it out the park!
I believe he was in contact with Moldaver, after all how did she knew were to find Vault-Tec employees to unlock the device? That information must have come from him
As long as it doesn't end like Game of Thrones. I think it doesn't have to be a long series, just 4 or 5 seasons of this story could be enough. Maybe some spinoff at some point, Prime Video did great with Gen V and this universe has way more possibilities... Or they could just change the characters every 3 seasons or so, keep it like some sort of anthology, like Fargo
@@eduardoarmenta9232 I wish I still had that hope lol I've been in drama classes, I pick apart shows from the beginning; Hank is probably the worst written character in modern writing. Just go back and focus on him and you'll see some of the problems the multiple writers had while writing this show.
I thought the nudity wasn't required. Overall yes, the fallout show was about a 8.3/10 score from me. I do hope a season 2 is incoming. If the writers, director(s), producers play the cards right. This show may last for over 5 seasons. I really liked that the fallout names changing each episode. From bullet holes to glowing. That needs to stay. That was a great idea. Not a kids show for sure. The minimum would be about 16 years old or so.
It was renewed already. I see it going either like a regular show with some spinoffs here and there, or like a sort of anthology with different characters every couple of seasons. Either way, it looks like its here to stay. Is probably going to become a staple of Prime Video, like the Boys
Wtf Wait for episodes! Hell no!!! WTF pete you're off your rocker! Everything should be Binge release by now. full season release all day! why make people wait. If you wanna wait then watch it once a week on your own time, jesus you cant control yourself enough to watch it once a week without them controlling it for you. Says allot about your greed peter 😂
His wife was a higher up at Vaul Tec. She could've been frozen at in a vault the way the junior execs at vault 31 were. We also don't see him and his daughter get irradiated in the opening scene. It's possible he got her back to her mom and therefore into a vault in time.
@@JoseDiaz-rd5qb They say at the birthday party that Cooper is paying alimony so I guess they had a falling out between the time he heard her speak up at the meeting about dropping the bombs and the actual time they dropped the bombs. Also more like he only wanted his daughter anyway. But would they put children into freeze chambers? Could they be trusted to become Vault-Tec executives or might they jeopardize the operation when they grew up? Oh wait. She was there at the birthday party. I hate to be a negative naysayer but there is no way he outrode those nuke blasts on a horse.
@@JoseDiaz-rd5qb I believe his wife send people for them, but they only took his daughter and leaved him there, that's how he got irradiated. Hopefully they're still alive, I want to see a reunion. Maybe we'll see his humanity coming back once again, while Lucy starts losing hers
I hate weekly releases. I'm good with binging the whole season at once. You tubers need to learn how to make unique episode break downs with details on every episode. This is more than just a recap of each episode.
I LOVE how the whole show looks almost video game like in alot of the shots, they really nailed this hopefully its the start of a come up by bethesda
Maybe I missed something when watching, but I'm still confused about Vault 32. Even though there was a video about "mouse utopia" on one of the TVs, I assume the occupants went crazy and killed eachother because they found out about Vault 31 and the "management"? What I don't understand is why didn't Hank or the other Bud's Buds didn't seem to know about it before the marriage exchange. If Hank, Betty, etc knew that the occupants of Vault 32 were already dead (due to no word from the Overseer's terminal), then they would have known the people on the other side of the door were someone else, i.e. wastelanders. Also, why didn't the radiation detectors go off when Moldaver's crew entered their vault?
Vault 31 does not have direct view of other two Vaults. We know that, because Bud doesnt know he is leting in Norm, not Betty. From what happpened I assume that there was first someone who dicovered role of Vault 31, then started revolution, and first think I would do would be cuting Overseer's comunication. Because Vaults comunicate only in extreme situations, no info from 32 will not be seen as something wierd.
ALL your question are explained in Mauler's review channel of the show. Title of the video is "Fallout a world on fire" on Mauler's channel. In short: Show care about stuff looking good, and ZERO CARE about making sense, or continuity, or history in the games.
It is important to note that the mouse utopia is pseudoscience at best.
Every repeat experiment did not produce the results mentioned.
Also calling those mice "the beautiful ones" hints at the worldview of the people doing the first experiment.
@@Klikoderat The experiment has been reproduced 52 times, giving similar results with minor change. Go spew your lies somewhere else. Even 2 worse critic of this test had to choice to admit, it was sound.
I think Muldaver was in cryo in 31. Hank addresses her as Overseer Muldaver and would have know her because her company was bought out by Vault Tec.
I LOVE that you're doing more fallout content! If you've the inclination I'd love a vid of your favourite Easter egg/ game references in S1 🙂
OSW? Whadayouu dooooing here
Awesome work. Love this show. Goggins has to be the most underrated actor of his generation. The dude steals every scene. He needs to win major awards for his performance. Didn’t think I’d like Lucy at the beginning but she really grew up a lot.
I don't think he is underrated, as he is fairly well-known and respected. I know what you mean, though.
How did Moldaver (leader of the NCR) survive for over 200 years? She doesn’t work for vault-tec and she’s not a ghoul.
Girl power prbly.
We'll probably get an explanation at some point.
In my mind, these kinds of things have been purposely left out of season 1 to generate more mystery and answers to look forward to and theorize about in the meantime.
Shes a vamp or a warewolf
She DID work for Vault-Tec - she mentioned they bought out her all companies. As she was rather leading scientist. she de facto was Vault-Tec employee after aquisitons. She could have vault ticket then. ( But it's seems a bit strange, as she was so oppose to what V-T was doing. )
I kinda thought maybe she got into Hanks Tank in 31, after all they pretended to come from a long dead 32 and from the state of that vault there is no way they were just surviving in there. May also have been why Buds brain was walled off in that little makeshift cage of random objects. I may be wrong but to me it’s all that could make sense.
In that same interview he said the fall of shady sands is different from when the bomb was dropped on it..he explained extensively
The board clearly indicates the fall was 2277 then the line continues til the BOOM.
Yeah that’s what I thought
I'm not a gamer, but if any show could make me want to play the game, it's Fallout. Thanks Pete !😊
check out the last of us series!
My favorite game series by far. None of the games are connected in terms of story. They are all unique in their own way with their own story. Hundreds of hours of quest lines in all of them combined.
the question i wanna ask is "who the heck cleaned vault 32?" that would take a considerable work force and we only know of 2 people from vault 31.
I swear I remember within the show that there were a hand full of references to Maldaver talking about how her and other scientists were working on a tool to keep people alive for ever to continue working on their experiments until Vualtec bought out the studies or the company they were working for. I’m pretty sure Maldaver was telling this to the ghouls character when she was persuading him to spy on his wife’s work. I am pretty sure Maldaver might have developed a tool to stay immortal, can’t die due to natural death, which explains her continued existence and slow aging.
I love the people who dont understand how timelines work, or what "fall" means in this context.
Even when it's fully explained to them, how it works, and what it means, they're still like "eeeeh, doesn't line up if you ask me..." or "sounds like copium".
Just an absolute refusal to admit they were wrong even in the face of absolute proof.
It's fascinating really
Thanks for saving me from having to write this comment 🙏 well said dude
more people need to read this lmao smooth brains i swear
I literally don't understand how it was interpreted wrong. Every single date is right under the event its describing. The picture of the bomb has no date, but is listed AFTER the "wrong" date, with an arrow denoting it as a separate event.
I would say people are just arguing in bad faith but it seems that most people didn't read the board like this. I just don't get it.
My prediction for season 2 is that Cooper tracks his family down to Vault 0. I know it was ejected from the cannon but it fits in perfectly into this show as Vault 0 was where data from all the other vaults was sent in order to plan the perfect new society, which is now what Vault-tec was trying to do. Cooper's wife said she was trying to get them into a monitoring vault, which is exactly what Vault 0 is.
Cooper's daughter could be in cryostasis in there along with the Vault-tec higher ups and maybe his wife is one of those brains hooked up to the Calculator.
Weekly drops to me are more fun. You get to think about the episode over the week, talk about it with friends, watch recap videos, etc. I also love having something to look forward to watching each week, we usually do a Friday thing, go out to dinner, watch the latest episode of whatever show has dropped. So I am with you, weekly drops are better than a binge drop.
(Fall of Shady sands)-------->(bomb)
you see timelines are simple, the arrow in the timeline indicates an event in the future, so the arrow indicates the fall happened and then the bomb dropped later.
Timelines are easy. Each date on the timeline is when something happened. The last one is a year with an unrelated date before something happened with an arrow indicating an undisclosed amount of time passed between the date and the event. The "Fall of Shady Sands" happened when Hank dropped the nuke. You could say when Shady Sands fell down to the second the bomb hit.
Damn made yourself look dumb there
I think it’s pretty clear how Maldover survived; I also think it’s very provocative that she would awakened AFTER the NCR campaigned to control the power supply of the dam in “New Vegas”: the events of that game could be why she was defrosted, kinda making Vault-Tec’s targeting of Shady Sands inevitable
I believe she was the actual reason of the bombing. As soon as Vault-Tec realized she was alive, they saw her as a real treat and tried to kill her, Shady Sands was just collateral damage
And house probably helped hank do it. House probably felt directly threatened by the NCRs audacity to come after his beloved city.
I think both house and Hank also feel like THEY are the one who should he in charge not some above ground self-made government.
Which goes into a theory I have. It's possible moldaver is evil, like hank warned Lucy, but she is still rivals with the Management group.
@@Livvvid maybe but unlikely: House was the most wary of Vault-Tec at that admittedly very brief glimpse of the meeting; the only reason he would assist Hank in using a nuke on Shady Sands would be to expend a Vault-Tec nuke somewhere other than New Vegas; my theory is that Maldover, while likely being wealthy enough to secure private cryo preservation, was secluded and cryoslept w/ House’s own cabal such that she would be able to furnish cold fusion for him
From what I can tell, House was more directly threatened by the Legion and the Brotherhood and was more or less ambivalent towards the NCR
Best tv breakdown RUclipsr! Thanks for the great content.
get life
Who cleaned up vault 32. .. A Time Freeze .. is time travel possible ...
Been a big fan of your reviews since finding your channel. I have really enjoyed your recent review on Shogun but the highlight for me was For All Mankind. Viewing habits and tv production has changed. I grew up in the era of shows like Star Trek TNG, Quantum Leap and X-files. Those were lengthy shows with seasons lasting 20-24 episodes. When you factored in a brief mid-season hiatus... that was half the year. People were invested in the weekly stories but also the greater arc. The anticipation for having to wait a whole week was part of the enjoyment, but now shows are just a quick fix. It was great going to school or going to work and discussing each episode.
Shady sands falls in 2077. It is nuked later. Not sure where the ambiguity is.
Show takes 15 years after events of new vegas game. Bombing probably happened 15 or 14 years ago based on maximus being a kid when it happened. As you said it is not really ambigious
Keep the binge model, why would i want to wait weekly to watch a great show.
The amount people have tunnel visioned into that one date makes me think there is just a portion of the fans who were never going to be content with this show no matter what they did. I feel sorry for them because for whatever reason they’re stopping themselves from enjoying something amazing. This was everything I ever wanted from a Fallout TV show like in my eyes this couldn’t have been better.
I can't speak for anyone else and don't really have grievances that seem to drive a lot of people. I just watch shows as a job and try to follow the details that they're using to tell the story. It seemed like they were telling the story of the bombs dropping after Fallout New Vegas so I went to check the dates to make sure that worked for Maximus' age sometime in episode 4 or 5. It did match up so I was expecting that to be the reveal. That's why it was confusing when the board had a completely different year. It didn't ruin the show or my experience or ignite some long-term gripe I had against the company. It was just a detail that didn't make sense which is unfortunate when you're job is to give an overview of what happened.
@@PetePeppers1 Sorry if my comment was unclear but I totally was not referring to you with it, I think you’re very fair and equitable with everything.
I also think it was a general history. Aka 2077 saw the bomb destroy shady sands, but it doesn't say when in 2077 and neither does it make it unplausible no one would talk about it 40? odd years later in New Vegas.
I never played NV though, as at that time, that was by a different studio than the first two studios by the people whom made mistakes in the F2. So I refused to play it. Probably a mis-namer on my part there, in hindsight.
The shady sands date issue was in a vault though, wasn't it? And vault dwellers were told all kinds of nonsense so perhaps it was just misinformation... also the nuke sketch had a small arrow between 2277 (think that's the date) and the sketch.. think people are hanging onto it as a mistake too heavily
My thoughts too.
I also heard Oxhorn (who I love) say that he was upset that we know Vault-Tec's intentions... That we now know that Vault-tec wanted to perfect humanity or whatever.
But we don't know that.
All we know is she used that as a pitch in a meeting with potential investors.
She would have said anything to get them to cough over money... Anything.
So, we still don't know what Vault-Tec's true intentions are.
We will get a better date, but we know the fall started before the destruction, and weren't at the same time.... Though idk why you would write that on a timeline. I'm trying to think of a real world example and I'm failing.
There is no date when the bomb hit Shady Sands. It’s say the fall of Shady Sands, that doesn’t mean the bomb fell that year. Then it’s moves on ahead to the bomb, but there is no date.
This would be wild, but if we know anything about Norm is that he never does as he's told and we never get to see him actually enter a pod, we only hear Bud telling him to do so. What if he decides to go against it and initiates some kind of defrosting protocole on all the bigwigs so Bud would have to let them all out? That would be some nice chaos if we got those characters running about.
looking forward to seeing a live action cut of House using missile defense to intercept the ICBMs as they attempt to reign on Vegas. That’s gonna be an awesome action sequence.
This show for me was the most refreshing and thoroughly entertaining since I took a punt on a new show called 'The Expanse' :D .........NEXT I think will be 'Shogun' as I loved the original yrs ago.
Why do ghouls's noses rot off but not their ears which are also mainly cartridge also or their eyes or teeth?
I am still very pro binge release but I would be happy with 2 eps per week. This is probably the best damn live action adaptation ever, imo. They did such a great job on this.
in a show brimming with good acting, my personal favorites were probably Johnny Pemberton (as the most human human in the whole wasteland) and Jon Daly (as the snake oil doctor with ...peculiar tastes and an effective but weird ace under his stinky sleeve); maybe I side with who thinks comedians are usually astonishingly good actors.
Johnny Pemberton was incredible in this, stole every scene he was in. I really hope they bring him back next season.
The shadowy figure Barb answers to is definately the enclave - Maybe John Henry Eden? (dont know if that fits with lore tho)
binge is the way to go. Lets not go back to 1980
I don't like the theme or setting (post-apocalyptic 'humans are the real enemy" stuff) and played only New Vegas for a little (some 5 hours), but I very much enjoyed this series. All of the characters are fun and/or interesting to watch, which is kinda rare these days, and the comedy has a tone that feels right. Will keep watching and recommending
I've played all of Fallouts and it's my absolutely favourite game in the world! ❤❤❤
The plots of the games and situations in the games are more complicated than in the 1 season, so I hope they come up with the next season soon 😊
And the crue did a really good job ❤
So my message for the fans is- IT takes time to come up with a really good result, before you can release the 2nd season, when the 1st season was so successful 😊
I think tv shows were so much more fun and social when they were weekly release. It's just my opinion and I love binging, but I miss that anticipation of waiting for the drop after talking with my other friends who watched during the week.
The fall of shady sands is mentioned as a fall not the destruction of sandy sands
Which wouldn't make sense with the story they're telling. It may make sense later when they explain that, but for now, there is no mention of anything leading to the fall. There is mention that Rose found a wonderful community on the surface she wanted to join and Hank ended it with a nuke.
I'm assuming we're going to see a repeat of the Elder Lyons situation that we encountered in F3 with this Elder going his own way since he now possesses cold fusion and has access to the airship. Since the NCR was rather a large faction, it's likely they still have outposts under their protection so maybe they return in New Vegas. The enclave will likely be the faction to oppose the Brotherhood since they also have Power Armor and similar technology. Moldaver could be a clone or maybe she was frozen by Mr. House since the group from the meeting did get vaults.
Great show & I’m a non game player. I love streaming TV shows and would prefer the week to week yet I would like to see prime continue to do 2 or 3 episodes released at once to get started. Most of the unanswered questions aren’t too important to me but knowing what’s up with Thaddeus does stick out to me as I truly despised him throughout the show. Lol. Always cool to see Pete covering shows that I watch. I haven’t gone with Shogun yet, may have to give it a shot
there are deserts in Cali like the Mojave Desert and Death Valley. there will be no shortage of dystopia-type landscapes there.
Why didn't Lucy's dad recognise Moldova when they first arrived at the vault ? But knew who she was after the attack ?
Never actually met her, just knew of her by reputation.
interesting touch thaddius' foot wasnt really healed when he put his sock back on
my biggest question is how did all those light bulbs still work after 200 years?
Some future tech bs lightbulbs 🤷🏾♀️
Thats an odd question for the Fallout universe i must say. Out of all the whacky things, light bulbs caught your attention?😂
ikr! 😂
@@PacersPushinP 🤷🏾♀️ I didn't notice until he said something about it... It made me think 😅
Real life lightbulbs are made shitty on purpose. In theory they could last a lot longer
Think about this: if the bombing of shady sands happened during F:NV, would the troopers there know? To my understanding, the NCR doesnt pocess long range communications devices -- only short range. So, if the capital was destroyed they would need to send a courier from the NCR to Nevada. That's my thoughts at least.
Well made video!!!! Keep it up!!!!
is easy to open vault 31 from the inside, just tell the brain on wheels that you are going to kill everyone if he doesnt open the vault, he already change the plans when he couldnt kill him and risk everything let him live
highly likely that maximus becomes the next ncr leader, since their family was a part of and also he saw all the sacrifice their leader did for bringing this energy
probably hank is going to an emergency headquarters but the ghoul wife wont be there, thats for season 3 at least
4:29 The timeline is not wrong youre just miss understanding it... The Fall of Shady Sans means that its no longer as strong as it was but still exists & there is no specific date given for when the bombs fell
yeah I interpreted it like "The fall of Rome" it just meant that Shady sands started declining in 2077 and after the events of new vegas got completely destroyed.
I'm not misunderstanding it, you're reinterpreting it with the desired answer in mind. Look at the timeline, every other entry is for a specific date that something happened. The show told us that the Fall of Shady Sands happened in an instant when Hank dropped a nuke on them. Your interpretation requires us to say well the last date is just different than the others and is related to a thing the show never introduced.
@@PetePeppers1correct me if I’m wrong but in Todd Howard’s recent interview. He specifically says that the the “fall of shady sands” isn’t referring to when the nuke was dropped. It means as said above that the city is in a decline and things aren’t going very well for its occupants. Even in new Vegas when you talk to NCR citizens they mention that shady sands isn’t doing so well. There is no specific date yet for when the nuke dropped. All we know right now is that it happened right after the events of new Vegas. P.S love your content
@@PetePeppers1 So if you look at the Time line you can see the "Fall of Shady Sands" is not the end cap of the timeline... The line & arrow head mean that the next event in the timeline is the bomb 💣 in school they teach us that the Arrows on either end of a time line are pointing to the future & the past.
@@PetePeppers1 The last date doesn't have to change for this interpretation to be correct because the last date is not for the last event on the board. You can argue the show did a bad job of conveying information but telling people they're reinterpreting something because you didn't understand the source material is arrogant. The sign declaring Shady Sands as the first capital even supports there being a gradual fall, it's not something that is only being explained outside of the source material.
I keep on thinking of Phillip Price when I see Quintas.
I kept thinking of Socrates from Bill and Ted
I was really happy to see Michael Christopher show up in something. He was so good as P Price.
Im going to assume the show is going to go with the ending of New Vegas that assumes you chose to side with Mr House. It think thats a safe assumption considering theyve already introduced him.
I also assume, since season 2 will take place post New Vegas, that well get to see the continuation of the legions activities, and perhaps even whats left of the NCR.
People should relax...we are talking about a post apocalyptic world....its highly likley that people in that world got the dates wrong
or an overworked office temp xd
Amazon will insist on a weekly release -- probably after dropping the first 2 or 3 episodes. They seem to have a reasonably good-sized hit on their hands here.
Yeah, I think with The Boys and the Expanse they dropped multiple episodes the first week and then had a weekly release after that.
I think they should have e fed it to us 1-2 episode(s) a week depending if there was an overarching story or a filler episode.
I wonder if the word “Fall” is used more like it is when referring to the “Fall of Rome”. It didn’t happen in one go, it happened over a period of time
So many people confuse LORE with STORY. There's a reason it was Christopher Tolkien who published The Silmarillion; it was world-building fluff, stuff that's nice to know, but ultimately not really needed to understand the main story.
Every the whole show was cannon...i still would love it 🤷🏾♀️ it still a good show
Jonathan Nolan kind of looks like Brad Pitt.
HOW TF COULD HANK WALK 286 MILES FROM SANTA MONICA TO LAS VEGAS IN POWER ARMOR WITH ONLY 1 FUSION CORE?!?!? NO WATER? FOOD?? GEAR??
Probably found some supplies on his way there
Sorry if Im repeating others.
You keep saying "Dropped the first bomb." Thought we all knew from the Oppenheimer movie that these bombs are to be detonated above not at ground level. In the show those were ground level (and no trails) leading me to believe the bombs were triggered inside buildings
🤷🏾♀️ all media besides from that one movie always shows them hitting the ground. So I wouldn't be surprised they will keep it like that. No different then how radiation waste isn't green at all 😂 it looks like sand mix with mug. You can Google pictures of it
I do agree that I liked the Series very much ( that is 7 or 8 out of 10), from games perspective series done a lot very well, design, style all the details were great.
However, attention to the detail in story itself was poor, I would even go as far as saying the writing was sloppy, overly convenient, lucky etc. Also it seems at least in one place the story confuses Raiders with NCR, which isn't immediately apparent, but becomes clear in the last episode.
A wrong date is not a big deal, in the show band of brothers they got the date of hitlers death wrong but it didn't make the show any worse
I agree. It was mildly annoying but as I said in the video mistakes happen.
i think thats the beauty of the fallout games and show, each game has its own individual story set in the wasteland. none of the stories directly tie into each other so its cool how you can hop into any game or into the show and you're not missing anything
@@PetePeppers1 My thinking is that it was a production error confusing the date of the Great War which happened in 2077. Much like the chalkboard at the start of Ep 1 that Lucy did.
In universe explanation is…whoever did the chalkboard was just wrong.
I dont mind how they release the episodes I dont have any friends to discuss it with :)
I prefer all the episodes bring release at once. I don't want to wait 8 bloody weeks to see the whole season
3:55 keep in mind vault 4 is mostly test subjects extrwmly deformed and since there not a breedinf pool before accepting the outsiders its a good chance they are extremly inbreed
Not sure how you missed the interview apparently or misinterpreted it and the chalkboard, its been explained. Fall doesn't mean destruction, fall means conflict. Bomb without a date means bombs fell but not sure when.
Yeah, I saw that but even Todd Howard didn't jump on that as an official explanation. He nodded politely to move on after the interviewer kept repeating it. There is no conflict. Hank found out his wife wanted to live on the surface and that led to him dropping a nuke. That's the story the show told us. I thought the show was great and it doesn't take away from my overall enjoyment of that. If they want to make that the explanation that's fine but it doesn't seem like something they would do intentionally.
@@PetePeppers1they aren’t going to spoil details about the Shady Sands nuke, that likely is a plot point for S2 already.
@@PetePeppers1My biggest question is what happened to Janey. She was with Coop when the first bombs fell. She wasn't with Barb, so how did she get separated from Coop after he started riding on his horse.
Also, when one of the other fathers at that birthday party asked why Coop would stoop to working a birthday party, another responded "alimony", hinting at the fact that Barb and Howard were separated. When did that happen? I believe it was when she discovered that Howard had put a bug in her pip-boy.
Regardless, I still want to know how Janey went from being with Howard when the bombs fell, to apparently being back with her mother safe somewhere.
@@lawrencecirillo3233 It's also implied he's being cancelled in Hollywood for being in the Vault-Tec commercial
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan ok. Still doesn’t cover the divorce or what happened to Janey. I guess we will find out in Season 2 🤷🏻♂️
I'm a binger, but maybe we could meet in the middle. Release 2, then 3, then 3 again. Best of both worlds i guess. I personally cant stand the 1 episode per week release schedule.
A lot do, and so do advertisers. It gives them time to analyze the data, which is much better than the 1 drop data, and gives people time to talk and theorize and spread word of mouth if it's good.
Literally no one wants this , the only reason the guy in the video even mentioned it is so he can milk every episode with a video , a very selfish opinion.
@@jamesmoran7391 I mean there IS an argument to be made about people exchanging ideas and having the hype build up each week, think of shows like "Lost" or "Game of Thrones" where the being of that show is somewhat elevated through its audience talking and thinking about it.
However, from an art/consumer perspective, the possibility of ultimate immersion through binging is just the holy grail.
You are probably right, F the ads people, art and immersion shall prevail! It SHOULD be more about our connection to the medium than about the collective perception.
Forget that noise.. all the episodes at once. If I love a show, I'm watching three or four episodes back to back. The next day, I'll watch the others.
@@Schmuniwe no longer live in that era. There's no need to watch TV like that
I never played the game, have no intention to play. I thought the show stood on its own without the game. I really enjoyed it without knowing the game.
Good thats whay kilter films was trying 2 do make a story stand on its own 2 legs without the games crutch
You have no idea what you're missing out on
@@TalosBjorntbh fallout 3 and nv do not hold up well today even with mods. I'm glad I experienced them at release
Not just a game, it's a series of games. There are multiple Fallout games.
However it was owned by Interplay first before it was sold to Bethesda in 2007. The gameplay in the old games is very different.
You don't have to play in order. You start each game with a different main character who you can customise. They take place in different areas over different timelines.
Fallout 1 and 2 are the more old school style turn based RPG.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas go first person though not as agile as other FPS games. They're RPGs mainly. These games may not look as appealing by today's standards since these came out on PS3 and Xbox 360 systems.
Fallout 4 is also first person with the combat improved though things have been made more simple. It's easy to get into for newcomers. It's the last main Fallout game.
Fallout 76 is similar to Fallout 4 in terms of graphics but it's an online game so you don't have to play this unless you want to play online.
Fallout Shelter is on mobile but it's not the normal type of game. It's about managing a vault with vault dwellers. So you can download it if you want.
Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel I have heard mixed things about.
Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel was the first console Fallout game and last Interplay Fallout as the company Interplay failed and lost most of its staff. Fallout on consoles didn't become a success until Fallout 3 and that's when Fallout became mainstream.
@@SorceressWitch then some of its staf started obsedion
I know for a fact vault tec did not drop the bombs. With the wife being so high up in the company why would she allow him and their daughter to attend a birthday party, they would have already been in a vault if they knew it was coming that day.
I think Vault-Tec were planning to drop the bombs in a couple of years, but then the Chinese did actually drop them before they did.
It was hinted they are split up at that point when another dad says hes paying alimony. I bet daughter had a spot in vault and ghoul got her there like fallout 4 opening, hes still looking for her afterall.
@@saiga3 oh yeahhh I completely forgot about that! I can’t wait for season 2 I have so many questions hahaha I’m also glade they’re extending the time line further
Why was there even a birthday party going on at 6:47am.
Bombs dropped at 9:47am on eastcoast as Nate and Nora were in Boston preparing for their day.
Thats a plothole the size of the grand canyon.
i think they split up by that point
I have to disagree about Norm going into the cryotube. Norm is a deceptively intelligent character. I think he'll either start destroying/unplugging cryopods until Bud Brain agrees to let him leave, but I think Bud will ONLY let him leave the vault for the surface and not go back to 32, and we'll get to see Norm survive while looking for his sister & father. That or he uses his computer knowledge to override or destroy Bud and escape. Norm was such an unexpected stand-out character. I highly doubt they'll put him on ice for too long. Norm ended up being my second favorite character in the series.
Where did Hank get a nuke from?
Season 1 was a home run and I look forward to Season 2 but executive producers Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy give me pause based on their handling of Westworld.
Weren't some scenes filmed in Namibia ([German] {sic} Southwest Africa)? A country known for its desolate & beautiful Skeleton Coast (and notably NOT Utah or New York) & endless, uninhabited dunes and desert, very evocative of a post-apocalyptic Southern CA
I read something to that effect but the Hollywood Reporter article I was referencing that mentioned the move to California listed New York and Utah as the primary filming locations.
Only two questions to ask
HOW will they kill NV lore?
WHAT will they do to destroy House & his amazing character?
Intetested to see if the Institute makes an appearance.
My biggest question is what happened to Janey. She was with Coop when the first bombs fell. She wasn't with Barb, so how did she get separated from Coop after he started riding on his horse.
Also, when one of the other fathers at that birthday party asked why Coop would stoop to working a birthday party, another responded "alimony", hinting at the fact that Barb and Howard were separated. When did that happen? I believe it was when she discovered that Howard had put a bug in her pip-boy.
Regardless, I still want to know how Janey went from being with Howard when the bombs fell, to apparently being back with her mother safe somewhere.
Yeah, when he confronts Hank he says where is my family which hints she they were together but there is still a lot we don't know about what happened after he listened in on their meeting.
8:50 The cyropods were exclusively for Vault-Tec executives, & she is the kost vocal person speaking out against Vault-tec... Why would VT give a cyropod space to someone who thinks their company is evil & why would she even trust Vault-tec when shes the one telling people not to trust them
Vault tec bought all that tech from other companies. There are privately owned pods elsewhere she must have had one in a prepper bunker.
yeah, I guess I should have mentioned that Vault Tec was buying companies up and more specifically every company she ever worked for. it wouldn't be difficult to explain how she got access to one.
@@PetePeppers1 so you're saying she has access to her own makeshift off brand Vault?
Anyone know about the airship?? Is there two or one yes I know it says prydwyn but they said it’s new
They may work the show into future games but for now I’m fine with treating this as it’s own thing. The games were always a personal experience (not 76) and head canon will never match up with what God Howard decrees. Did love the show and wasn’t hung up on the changes.
How did Betty get Vault 32 cleaned up in one night?
VT didn’t drop the first bomb. There’s no way their daughter would’ve been anywhere but a vault if Barb knew the bombs were about to drop. I think that scene was just supposed to show the nature of VT and run home how they were committed to ending the world.
Besides, they didn’t need to drop the bombs. The whole point of the discussion at Vault Tec is what they’d do if peace was going to break out. If it was going to, THEN they’d drop the bomb. The war was raging at the very end, so it wasn’t actually necessary…unless…they wanted to control the timing, but all the lore and events seem to indicate they failed that.
Via Las Vegas… lfg this series is amazing so far❤
WTF is the NCR, is my main question. I don't like how they conflicted the times though with Shady Sands. I mean, it's clear it was abandoned in 2277 and then nuked later, as the arrow shows, though 30k still died, but still. I just don't get why they didn't make it later. We already know Vault-Tech dropped the bombs. As in Fallout 3, the nuke in the center of the town, has a Vault-Tech logo on it. And we don't see a missile streak in the show with the first bomb.
I'm big fan of fallout games and lord too
Honestly I think weekly releases really make for stronger online fan communities too. In the case of Velma I don’t think people would’ve talked about it for as long if it all dropped at once. And that’s coming from a Velma apologist.
Muldaver is a clone. I am sure that a variant will appear next season. Norm can just pick up the Roomba and shake it til Bud lets him out. Going into cryosleep at the behest of a brain in a vat, with huge ulterior motives, immediately is stupid. Norm can threaten to upend everything. He's got options.
Have clones ever appeared in the Fallout lore? This ain’t Marvel, there ain’t no variants.
@@axelge1877 there is a whole vault of clones in fallout 3
@@axelge1877 Rebuttal: Gary. At least in the top five most discussed Vaults.
Here me out. Spoilers below for the video games that are canon to the events of the TV show.
Hank fled to New Vegas because he knows that the canon ending to Fallout: New Vegas is The House Always Wins, so Robert House is still alive, with Courier Six (who could easily be named "Sihks") as his right hand man.
Once Hank arrives at the steps of the Lucky 38, he briefly encounters the Courier on his way back out into the Wasteland after delivering very precious cargo from the Commonwealth. A perfect, synth replica of the C.I.T.s most prestigious alumnus, Robert Edwin House.
House agrees to help/shelter Hank, in exchange for transferring his consciousness into his new synth body.
It's the natural progression for the character of House to want a synth body, and he has displayed long range communication capability (finding the Platinum Chip after losing it for 200 years and organizing it's arrival to New Vegas), so he could easily communicate with the Institute before their destruction (and quite possibly since the bombs fell, as the Institute's goals, while more heavy handed, align with House's) and have the Courier travel to the Commonwealth, retrieve a commissioned synth body, and return it to New Vegas, all in between the end of New Vegas, and the beginning of Fallout 4.
The writers did an amazing job during Season 1, and have clearly done their homework. I think this might be where the show takes the story.
Who cleaned vault 32 in just 24 hours? Nobody from 33 could have done it without the rest of them finding out.
And in vault 31 everyone's in hibernation... So who did it and how?
The Vaults are huge aside from inhabitant living space, and the show demonstrates that underground volume: plenty of room to store Robco robots to handle such things
@@hellfish2309 That was my guess as well, however they haven't shown a single robot in any of the vaults so I assumed that maybe there weren't any. And if robots could have done it, why didn't they much earlier, why was everything just left to rot for at least several months? Vault 32 and what happend there makes no sense IMHO.
@@nuneke0there’s a synth that fixed the power armour piece. Also the coddsworths are around too
@@nuneke0 1) it builds mystery and suspense from the POV of Norman, who is the audience’s through-line to unravel some of what’s happening in the triple Vault and make the 31er’s that much more imposing; 2) the robots are likely not for regular use seeing as the 32 and 33 dwellers are supposed to cultivate managerial skills in a meritocracy and relying on robot labor disrupts that agenda; 3) more robots onscreen for such a minor plot point costs more CG they could smartly spend elsewhere, and doing so would only nerf the mystery as per ⬆️ point 1
Never mind that, how the hell were these vaults not discovered by the Master?
that robo brain is so tiny he should just threaten it with death by large fall off that platform if he wants to get out
I hope the shadowy Vaul-tec CEO is played by Ron Perlman. they really did a god job with this adaption. I was so worried that we would get another HALO but dam..they knocked it out the park!
God that could be a great casting, the brevity and the more serious side we know Ron can handle, solid idea imo.
Why did the target know Lucy's name?
I believe he was in contact with Moldaver, after all how did she knew were to find Vault-Tec employees to unlock the device? That information must have come from him
Likely from when Lucy lived in shady sands with her mother as a child
I really hope the mc wise up a little bit in season 2. She was way too trusting 😂 but i loved her personality. But damn girl ...come on now
My absolute favorite review of Fallout TV show was Mauler's review. "Fallout a world on fire"
...you do know that "the ghoul"'s name is Coop, right?
You might be the only person alive that would rather wait weeks to watch a show than have access to all the episodes this isnt the 90s anymore.
😂 I was thinking the same thing
This show is trying to tell the story of Fallout, not a story in Fallout; so it's going to be another Game of Thrones.
As long as it doesn't end like Game of Thrones. I think it doesn't have to be a long series, just 4 or 5 seasons of this story could be enough. Maybe some spinoff at some point, Prime Video did great with Gen V and this universe has way more possibilities... Or they could just change the characters every 3 seasons or so, keep it like some sort of anthology, like Fargo
@@eduardoarmenta9232 I wish I still had that hope lol I've been in drama classes, I pick apart shows from the beginning; Hank is probably the worst written character in modern writing. Just go back and focus on him and you'll see some of the problems the multiple writers had while writing this show.
Please make videos about Apple TV SUGAR?
I thought the nudity wasn't required. Overall yes, the fallout show was about a 8.3/10 score from me. I do hope a season 2 is incoming. If the writers, director(s), producers play the cards right. This show may last for over 5 seasons. I really liked that the fallout names changing each episode. From bullet holes to glowing. That needs to stay. That was a great idea. Not a kids show for sure. The minimum would be about 16 years old or so.
It was renewed already. I see it going either like a regular show with some spinoffs here and there, or like a sort of anthology with different characters every couple of seasons. Either way, it looks like its here to stay. Is probably going to become a staple of Prime Video, like the Boys
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Wtf Wait for episodes! Hell no!!! WTF pete you're off your rocker! Everything should be Binge release by now. full season release all day! why make people wait. If you wanna wait then watch it once a week on your own time, jesus you cant control yourself enough to watch it once a week without them controlling it for you. Says allot about your greed peter 😂
Why does Cooper want to know where his family is? Unless they are ghouls also wouldn't they already be dead?
His wife was a higher up at Vaul Tec. She could've been frozen at in a vault the way the junior execs at vault 31 were. We also don't see him and his daughter get irradiated in the opening scene. It's possible he got her back to her mom and therefore into a vault in time.
@@JoseDiaz-rd5qb They say at the birthday party that Cooper is paying alimony so I guess they had a falling out between the time he heard her speak up at the meeting about dropping the bombs and the actual time they dropped the bombs. Also more like he only wanted his daughter anyway. But would they put children into freeze chambers? Could they be trusted to become Vault-Tec executives or might they jeopardize the operation when they grew up? Oh wait. She was there at the birthday party. I hate to be a negative naysayer but there is no way he outrode those nuke blasts on a horse.
@@JoseDiaz-rd5qb I believe his wife send people for them, but they only took his daughter and leaved him there, that's how he got irradiated. Hopefully they're still alive, I want to see a reunion. Maybe we'll see his humanity coming back once again, while Lucy starts losing hers
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I hate weekly releases. I'm good with binging the whole season at once. You tubers need to learn how to make unique episode break downs with details on every episode. This is more than just a recap of each episode.