if you don't have to pay for the service on top of the game and can maybe finished with a AAA game in 2 - 4 hours it might actually be saving on downloading 100+gb of files in exchange for a few gigabytes worth of video streams, I would consider that feat! though I am still going to pass because of contention ratios and publishers still having final say on pulling games from the service on a whim (like some have done already!)
I think this video convinced me that game streaming services actually make sense for low end machines. I'd probably stay away from competitive games cause of latency, but for single player games its awesome!
you beat me to it good sir. Real talk though the performance gains of using eGPUs on PCIe m.2 slots instead of TB3 is noticeable, provided you're one of those lucky bastards that don't have a laptop that doesn't have bios blacklists for the M.2 slot, and I'm glad that these products exist.
That's interesting because when I clicked on this video I noticed something different about the name too. Is it a coincidence that people are noticing something different? I'm guessing something has changed. Has his logo changed too?
I love this channel! all the videos are so interesting and no one puts out contents like he does. If you're reading this have a good day mate, love you! ♥️
Yeah, I had several issues with New Vegas on ps3, heck the battle of Hoover Dam was a huge headache due to the low fps (below 20fps) and it was mandatory to finish the game; I still remember that entering the inventory to heal or use the VATS was so bad due to the delay! Not to mention several times I was stuck at the re-loading screen, straight out crashes and corrupted save data ,luckily I used to a rotary system of 4 saves ( save before, mid and after a dungeon/vault/mission related building and 1 save before talking to NPC related to the mission) so I minimized the hours lost. Later I discovered that most of the issues with data loading were caused by the autosave function, so disabling it reduced most of the issues.
Great video as always. However about GeForce Now it should be noted that your distance to their closest server has a much bigger impact on the streaming quality and responsiveness than your actual internet speed. Those of us with pretty speedy connections, but living in unsupported countries still have a very laggy experience.
Omg yes! I had so many problems with new vegas on the ps3 back in the day. The reason for that was the save file compiling bug that would make the game crash/freeze more and more the further you get into the game. That being said I'm surprised that the PAL region had it too (being as I'm in the NTSC-U region and by the time the PAL region would get games at least way back then a lot of bugs would be ironed out and fixed like in Smash Melee for example which was way different in the PAL region)
There is a linux distro called batocera. It's basically a multi-emulators system to run older tiltes. The interface is verynice and it would run perfectly on such a machine
Very interesting to see a D Sub connector on the same device as a USB type C. For a moment, going by the design, I thought this was some old mini pc from the early 2000s. Until I saw the USB 3 and Type C connectors
You should have forked out for the J1900. I have a 10ZIG thin client with one. I gaffa-taped a 2.5" SSD to it. That ran while my main PC was being rebuilt. Perfectly competent for gentle use. Brings back memories of trying to watch RUclips on a old Compaq laptop with a 144G single core Celeron. It did not like rendering HD 720p & I was using a lightweight Linux distro.
I had problems with vegas on ps3, once my save file passed a certain size the game began freezing periodically and became almost unplayable Love your videos man, keep it up!
That system is real cool. I have thought of the perfect use for it, while honestly not worth getting unless major budgeting. But it would be a laptop replacement for my D&D games.
I have a Brix GB-BLCE-4105 (4 cores, 4 threads, 2.5 GHz max) as my Mini PC; my daughter uses it for her primary school classes, I use it for GC emulation on an older CRT TV we still have... As my main rig has a 3700X and a 2070S, this mini PC compliments my mobile requirements very well!!!
Very interesting to see the results streaming a game. My little travel laptop has the Intel N5000 (pentium rather than celeron). Now I am wondering if I could stream a game on that? Guessing the 4GB of RAM would limit me a bit
Cor, I could right do with a case that size as my Coolermaster HAF XM looms over me as its on my desk next to me taking up half a human body in size and my cats love it as a perch leading to me having to dehair it often on the top most 240mm helicopter fans... Was even more surreal when the cats would use the fan on top of my Antec Skeleton which I had customised in lurid green paint and had the most intricate of water cooling with little Alphacool thin tube on the ram and graphics and filled with a lovely red UV dyed coolant which I had little UV leds all over the place spotlighting it making the current RGB's look positively pants in comparison. Can't believe I gave all that away O.o Put my new mobo into it and being a smallish mobo it looks really lost inside that cavernous case and now I got to deal with normal temps as my Coolermaster V8 MK1 won't fit :( So maybe back to water and proper water not piddly AIO's, daughter has already snagged the V8 for her rig lol and my 32gigs Ripjaws memory, and my Vishera 9 series but the last one might not happen if her AM3+ board isn't set up to handle the hot juices of the heat furnace 9 series CPU's...
@@xx_epicgaymer69_xx41 OMG yeah get on gta v max settings at 10fps thats gunna be a pure beast.... :p... in all fairness my first gaming pc was a APU first gen back like 2011/2012... that thing could be overclocked. so got it at 3.2ghz on all cores locked which a jet underneath.but in all fairness was getting 30/50 fps on bf3 on medium settings at 768p which ain't that bad seems was £300 new. i couldn't play at them settings now but back then i was buzzing lol.... this pc kinda reminds me of the good old days make what you got work
The Cinebench R20 score of 246 is right on par with my C2D 2.26GHz P7550. It can't really play any modern games, but is a completely fine web, email, RUclips, Netflix system.
I bought this little thing for Parsec streaming from my server. Since it have 265 decoder, I'm still waiting for ram to test it... but if the nvidia thing worked, parsec on local lan should work too :)
Mini PCs are great for light work. Then you realise you need a power adapter as well, which adds more space, somewhat defeating the purpose. I had an Esprimo second hand for a reasonable cost a number of years back. It had some issues, but worked fine. One day I decided to move my files across to desktop, because I wanted to return to more performance. As I was transferring files, the machine just died. Switched off, wasn't going to come back on. The hdd was alright though, so got the files across and sold the rest of it for spares.
If space isn't an issue then an old small business desktop might make more sense, eg. I bought a Fujitsu system with an i7 870, 8GB RAM, Quadro card, DVDRW, etc. for just 75 UKP, a configuration that's far more powerful than the N4000 for general tasks while also well capable of driving an older mid range GPU such as a GTX 1060, RX 580, GTX 980, 780 Ti, etc. A question about the performance differences: have you checked that it isn't in significant part due to the RAM clock? By the time IB came out (i7 3770, i7 4820K, etc.), DDR3/2133 was already the norm and indeed for top end mainstream CPUs one would typically use at least 2400MHz instead since back then 2400 kits were cheaper, eg. in summer 2016 a 32GB/2400 Corsair Vengeance Pro kit was only 116 UKP. I just wonder how much of a kick the 4770 would get if it was using 2400MHz+ RAM instead of only 1866. And bare in mind that on a decent mbd of the day, DDR3 support was all the way up to 3200MHz, so 1866 is very low down the scale of the Haswell generation RAM options.
I would appreciate it if you would test Valorant standard, also Battlefield games and Minecraft would be nice. Battlefield is a good benchmark because they have so many titles ranging in graphical intensity and they are still all nice (I love bc1-2, bf3-5 and 1) so it would be nice to see how high a pc can go in battlefield titles in terms of release dates.
Have you given a go, in chasing down one of them Hades Canyon NUCs (whether being Iris Graphics or the awkward joint venture AMD Vega SoC Chip)? That may supplant in streaming support / "some" gaming?
Also here's another video idea, early windows xp rig with a more modern low end pci graphics card like a geforce 210 on the pci bus. (yes pci not pci-e, not agp) Then sourcing like a socket 462/socket A, socket 478 or similar pc that's at best from the year 2006 with a socket 775 pentium 4. Runs vista or windows xp when you get it, max out it's ram is ofc another upgrade. Put windows 7 & a modern but low end pci bus graphics card in it for youtube video acceleration as the goal & perhaps some old games with a modern low power gpu vs the existing integrated graphics or whatever graphics card it came with. And some daily use things run smoothly & older games like Half-life 2 ,svencoop (free game, essentially half-life 1 & a huge amount of maps, & some mods in coop.) Not sure if you have done something like this already but could be fun mini project for 2020 with a limited budget. Did upgrade a pentium 4 pc with ddr ram first gen pci-e slot & a geforce 210 here, was a bit choppy but pleasant enough experience, specially vs the integrated garbage it has on the motherboard intel 915 chipset heh.
Nice video man i have a i3 6100 (GB-BSi3H-6100) brix which i bought used for 160 dol and it runs rocket league and coop games like overcooked 2 pretty well in 720 low, or even 1080 low nevertheless i would recomend it as a multimedia machine or maybe a server (i use it as an sql and tomcat server and it works really well it makes really little noise so you can keep it powered on in the night)
This seems like it'd be great for running home servers for less demanding games, or for NAS, or both. Perhaps you should have considered using it as a ubuntu/linux machine and seeing how the experience is on that? Especially comparing it as a smaller media machine like 1080p video streaming/playback. I've had potato old netbook-laptops which go from struggling with 720p to fine 1080p RUclips playback installing standard ubuntu.
The form factor is nice, but for $80-100 maybe a used 3rd or 4th gen i5/i7 optiplex PC would be a better buy. I have had quite a bit of luck with them running modern graphics cards in both the standard desktop and SFF units. If space is a problem, the SFF optiplex units have a front to back airflow path allowing for them to be slotted under a monitor stand or directly under a less heavy display.
Nice little PC, plus it supports a 2.5 drive so I could just whack in a 1Tb or 2TB mechanical disk with no issues at all :) Shame it only supports 1x RAM stick, and a weak CPU. For a space saving option (e.g. what my parents need), this would be fine, except it wouldn't be an upgrade over their aging AMD E2-1800 based setup. If they did a more powerful version, I'd recommend they get something like this, plus a cheap 1080p monitor. :)
I have an HP Stream 14 with the same specs albeit with a 4gb Ram Stick. I got good performance out of it in my own opinion to be honest. DMC4 (Not SE) ran at around 40 - 50fps, Far Cry 3 with some low spec gamer tweaks (not the game breaking ones😂) gave me about 25 - 30fps, Borderlands 2 with cel-shaded black lines removed gave me about 25 - 30fps on average too, Sleeping Dogs with a 960 × 540 res. also hovered around 25 - 30fps and the original Vanilla Skyrim V runs at an almost solid 30fps when locked at the same 960 × 540 res. I did do a lot of the Intel tweak survival guides from the low spec gamer channel though. Anyways, in my opinion, for someone who lives in a country where the very concept of gaming is expensive, I was pretty content with it... and though I have a much stronger laptop now, the Intel Celeron N4000 and it's UHD 600 served me well. Oh I forgot to add that the first 3 games I listed were all played on 720p low, so I think dropping it down to a 540p resolution might've helped, but who knows... Fps tends to behave oddly at times regardless of resolution drops😂.
I had Celeron N4000 too, after checking the CPU is unlocked then I try to increasing the TDP to 12W. The performance significantly increased but the CPU temperature reached 85 degree for low spec games because this laptop is fanless, need to add cooler fan under the laptop.
To give credit where it is due, doing what it does for 6 watts isn't too terrible. That said, Raspberry PI's of various flavors exist and I am pretty sure I have seen old core 2 DUO;s dunk on that I3 in terms of performance.
i think this is pretty cool. if it was just slightly more powerful, i would use it as a home theater system to run movies, music and tv shows. or, just whatever. i wouldnt use it to game, but the fact that GeForce Now is a thing, i think it would be a good option to play games where a higher latency isnt a concern too, so theres that. heck, for $100, id buy a product like that. just slightly more powerful. maybe a new Ryzen APU or something and it would be perfect for home theater/casual things.
Would be funny to see a game like The vanishing of ethan carter running on pcs like these. You can drop the res to 300x200 to get as much fps as the IGPU can
I'm curious about it's emulating potential. I wonder how well it would run GameCube Games using Dolphin Emulator? I'm thinking about getting a Mini PC for emulating GameCube, N64, SNES, NES, DS, Gameboy and a handful of PS1 Games..
The newer mini machines would be killer with amd APUs , 8 core ryzen 7 with vega graphics, it will be like a mini workspace and light gaming machine at the same time
You're not alone with New Vegas on PS3. None of the big Bethesda RPGs ran well on PS3 and they all had strange memory overflow bugs that weren't present on 360.
You should try testing the original Skyrim on this older/lower end hardware, I bought it for less then 20 Canadian dollars on G2A simply because it runs good on my laptop but the special edition doesn't
Both FALLOUT NV and 3 are a nightmare on the PS3 due to very poor porting, i've managed to complete both getting all the trophies but by the end the game was freezing every other door I entered.
They are good for what they are considering they not aimed at gamers, but if you can do some decent streaming of games then you got a nice cheap low maintenance pc especially if you buy a used one.
as we're on the subject of budget hardware, would you recomend a 600euro/$ pc with an intel xeon w3690 and what looks like a decent lga 1366 mobo, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1080ti with a 650w psu and a 1tb ssd?
whatre your thoughts on using something like this for the shadow streaming service? i dont plan on it it just seems like a smarter route with more freedom than nvidia's version.
this is the first time that streaming a game has made sense to me. pretty impressive tbh
if you don't have to pay for the service on top of the game and can maybe finished with a AAA game in 2 - 4 hours it might actually be saving on downloading 100+gb of files in exchange for a few gigabytes worth of video streams, I would consider that feat!
though I am still going to pass because of contention ratios and publishers still having final say on pulling games from the service on a whim (like some have done already!)
Its a good way to play PC games on mac, my brother is a member of the cult.
I think this video convinced me that game streaming services actually make sense for low end machines. I'd probably stay away from competitive games cause of latency, but for single player games its awesome!
i would love one of these mini-pcs, but with ryzen mobile laptop chips.
Ah the minisforum stuff
Asus PN50 exists
I'm surprised he hasn't been given a review sample yet
@@armedready1 they are out there mukka go and hunt think around £300
There are tons of those.
It is a nice Halloween mini pc, since it scares the gamers away.
Good one!
Haha xd
these cheap tech videos are really interesting, show you how far tech has progressed and how cheap it's becoming as time goes on
in my country, expensive is the word you should replace cheap with
@@esatd34 what country?
@@colbyfrancis2667 any third world country really. Low income, high costs 👍🏻
@@dunkeykung1162 "desk space" is a first world problem. To be honest a PC with this footprint and x 7 the height is still tiny.
@@colbyfrancis2667 Turkey, the country one
5:00 You would need a PCI-E 16x to M.2 E-key adapter/cable.
That's a PCI-E to Mini PCI-E cable.
you beat me to it good sir. Real talk though the performance gains of using eGPUs on PCIe m.2 slots instead of TB3 is noticeable, provided you're one of those lucky bastards that don't have a laptop that doesn't have bios blacklists for the M.2 slot, and I'm glad that these products exist.
Dude, I ALWAYS thought your channel was RandomGamingHD...
Today I realised its RandomGaming IN HD!! My life will never be the same
holy sheet. now i realise that too.
Omg I am so mad at you u made me realize that 😂
I don't think he changed it! I think it's always been RandomGamingHD lmaooo we never realized?
it's always been with the 'in', you can see his nickname when benchmarking games sometimes displays 'RGinHD'
That's interesting because when I clicked on this video I noticed something different about the name too. Is it a coincidence that people are noticing something different?
I'm guessing something has changed. Has his logo changed too?
Ah yes, the classic i3 measurement system
I have an i3 3240
@adam lol who asked you to respond to my comment
@@IWillBrutalyRemoveYourBalls damn
@@IWillBrutalyRemoveYourBalls I did
@@IWillBrutalyRemoveYourBalls now you can measure that Brix mini pc without any problems :)
Fun Fact: I watch these videos back to front so I can see the origin story of all RGHD videos.
It's not possible
@@CVSELCAPO Are you sure about that? Copy to video edit player and let it play in reverse.
Effernet 👍
😂
lol
The guy that does the AA Computers channel says "Eefernet"
oofernet
I love this channel! all the videos are so interesting and no one puts out contents like he does. If you're reading this have a good day mate, love you! ♥️
Budget builds official makes simmular content tho
@@xbyxenos3200 i like this channel better haha his voice is really soothing
@@rakib-uh4bb i agree with your first comment but he also makes simmular content, if you alredy watched all rgih's videos you can go there
"Around the back we've got the standard selection of ports you would expect"
Indeed, I can see the port.
Still more port than a MacBook pro
@@mariocart2wrholder true hehe
@@mariocart2wrholder yeah xD
Yeah, I had several issues with New Vegas on ps3, heck the battle of Hoover Dam was a huge headache due to the low fps (below 20fps) and it was mandatory to finish the game; I still remember that entering the inventory to heal or use the VATS was so bad due to the delay!
Not to mention several times I was stuck at the re-loading screen, straight out crashes and corrupted save data ,luckily I used to a rotary system of 4 saves ( save before, mid and after a dungeon/vault/mission related building and 1 save before talking to NPC related to the mission) so I minimized the hours lost. Later I discovered that most of the issues with data loading were caused by the autosave function, so disabling it reduced most of the issues.
Great video as always. However about GeForce Now it should be noted that your distance to their closest server has a much bigger impact on the streaming quality and responsiveness than your actual internet speed. Those of us with pretty speedy connections, but living in unsupported countries still have a very laggy experience.
5:08 Yes!!! So happy to see you test GeForce Now with this super low-end machines 😃👍
Omg yes! I had so many problems with new vegas on the ps3 back in the day. The reason for that was the save file compiling bug that would make the game crash/freeze more and more the further you get into the game.
That being said I'm surprised that the PAL region had it too (being as I'm in the NTSC-U region and by the time the PAL region would get games at least way back then a lot of bugs would be ironed out and fixed like in Smash Melee for example which was way different in the PAL region)
There is something pleasantly ASMR about your videos. keep up the good work.
Please show a few games it can play at 60+ fps. HL2, F.E.A.R., etc.
I like to see what your older machines can actually do.
There is a linux distro called batocera. It's basically a multi-emulators system to run older tiltes. The interface is verynice and it would run perfectly on such a machine
Very interesting to see a D Sub connector on the same device as a USB type C.
For a moment, going by the design, I thought this was some old mini pc from the early 2000s. Until I saw the USB 3 and Type C connectors
Would this be any good for streaming on Twitch to save the power of your main PC?
No not enough threads or fast enough for the task, try an Athlon with an a320 mobo it’ll be cheaper as well
It's much too slow really
streaming at 480p can be done
@@trisjack82 Or just some old gaming pc.
Looking at those specs, probably not. My main HP 15-ac153sa laptop would probably get it done quicker and better.
You should have forked out for the J1900. I have a 10ZIG thin client with one. I gaffa-taped a 2.5" SSD to it. That ran while my main PC was being rebuilt. Perfectly competent for gentle use.
Brings back memories of trying to watch RUclips on a old Compaq laptop with a 144G single core Celeron. It did not like rendering HD 720p & I was using a lightweight Linux distro.
I had problems with vegas on ps3, once my save file passed a certain size the game began freezing periodically and became almost unplayable
Love your videos man, keep it up!
Thanks for the honest and comprehensive review.
0:23 thats a veteran gamer mouse and keyboard right there
That system is real cool. I have thought of the perfect use for it, while honestly not worth getting unless major budgeting. But it would be a laptop replacement for my D&D games.
I have a Brix GB-BLCE-4105 (4 cores, 4 threads, 2.5 GHz max) as my Mini PC; my daughter uses it for her primary school classes, I use it for GC emulation on an older CRT TV we still have... As my main rig has a 3700X and a 2070S, this mini PC compliments my mobile requirements very well!!!
Very interesting to see the results streaming a game. My little travel laptop has the Intel N5000 (pentium rather than celeron). Now I am wondering if I could stream a game on that? Guessing the 4GB of RAM would limit me a bit
As long as you can watch streamed HD content with no problems, your hardware doesn't matter.
Could be a great music streamer if you plug in a USB DAC, like the Audioquest Dragonfly.
+1
This is among the things I think this would be good for. I also think it might be a decent emulation device.
Just under 100 pounds?! Thats a figgin heavy computer!
0:52 F'ER NET
0:52*
haha
I heard E’ffer’net
Cor, I could right do with a case that size as my Coolermaster HAF XM looms over me as its on my desk next to me taking up half a human body in size and my cats love it as a perch leading to me having to dehair it often on the top most 240mm helicopter fans... Was even more surreal when the cats would use the fan on top of my Antec Skeleton which I had customised in lurid green paint and had the most intricate of water cooling with little Alphacool thin tube on the ram and graphics and filled with a lovely red UV dyed coolant which I had little UV leds all over the place spotlighting it making the current RGB's look positively pants in comparison. Can't believe I gave all that away O.o Put my new mobo into it and being a smallish mobo it looks really lost inside that cavernous case and now I got to deal with normal temps as my Coolermaster V8 MK1 won't fit :( So maybe back to water and proper water not piddly AIO's, daughter has already snagged the V8 for her rig lol and my 32gigs Ripjaws memory, and my Vishera 9 series but the last one might not happen if her AM3+ board isn't set up to handle the hot juices of the heat furnace 9 series CPU's...
for gaming, i wont trust even a slim tower
i know cause i have one
ROFL
throw in a gt1030
@@xx_epicgaymer69_xx41 OMG yeah get on gta v max settings at 10fps thats gunna be a pure beast.... :p... in all fairness my first gaming pc was a APU first gen back like 2011/2012... that thing could be overclocked. so got it at 3.2ghz on all cores locked which a jet underneath.but in all fairness was getting 30/50 fps on bf3 on medium settings at 768p which ain't that bad seems was £300 new. i couldn't play at them settings now but back then i was buzzing lol.... this pc kinda reminds me of the good old days make what you got work
I remember seriously considering buying the Brix with the i5/GTX 760 back in 2014 when I was first getting into PC gaming.
3:53 THE DUST CLOUD MADE THE FPS GO DOWN LMAOO
The Cinebench R20 score of 246 is right on par with my C2D 2.26GHz P7550. It can't really play any modern games, but is a completely fine web, email, RUclips, Netflix system.
I bought this little thing for Parsec streaming from my server. Since it have 265 decoder, I'm still waiting for ram to test it... but if the nvidia thing worked, parsec on local lan should work too :)
I literally took out a core i3 I do not have an use for and used that to visualise the size of the pc
i3-4130
@@karlkukk7080 sell it
Do you think that the network the Geth are part of in Mass Effect would be called Gethernet?
Maybe the Gethub?
Looks good for browsing the Internet, checking email and music and streaming content.
wow this is lowkey stronger that mine
What do you have ?
F 😥
@@xrafter amd athlon 64 2x and 2 gb ram no gpu
@@Metropolisan
Will you need to upgrade the ram and you shoul be fine.
Can you run any games on your pc at all?
n4000 is used for low end chromebooks, like the ones the schools give out low end
I had a Beebox which I fitted with a 120Gb EEMC drive as an office computer for a charity. Worked fine for non-gaming.
Mini PCs are great for light work. Then you realise you need a power adapter as well, which adds more space, somewhat defeating the purpose.
I had an Esprimo second hand for a reasonable cost a number of years back. It had some issues, but worked fine.
One day I decided to move my files across to desktop, because I wanted to return to more performance. As I was transferring files, the machine just died. Switched off, wasn't going to come back on. The hdd was alright though, so got the files across and sold the rest of it for spares.
in the future linus will used this in a video the ultimate sleeper pc 🤣
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU PLAYED GUITAR! AHHH FELLOW MUSICIAN!
Im loving the bakelite look
If space isn't an issue then an old small business desktop might make more sense, eg. I bought a Fujitsu system with an i7 870, 8GB RAM, Quadro card, DVDRW, etc. for just 75 UKP, a configuration that's far more powerful than the N4000 for general tasks while also well capable of driving an older mid range GPU such as a GTX 1060, RX 580, GTX 980, 780 Ti, etc.
A question about the performance differences: have you checked that it isn't in significant part due to the RAM clock? By the time IB came out (i7 3770, i7 4820K, etc.), DDR3/2133 was already the norm and indeed for top end mainstream CPUs one would typically use at least 2400MHz instead since back then 2400 kits were cheaper, eg. in summer 2016 a 32GB/2400 Corsair Vengeance Pro kit was only 116 UKP. I just wonder how much of a kick the 4770 would get if it was using 2400MHz+ RAM instead of only 1866. And bare in mind that on a decent mbd of the day, DDR3 support was all the way up to 3200MHz, so 1866 is very low down the scale of the Haswell generation RAM options.
I would appreciate it if you would test Valorant standard, also Battlefield games and Minecraft would be nice. Battlefield is a good benchmark because they have so many titles ranging in graphical intensity and they are still all nice (I love bc1-2, bf3-5 and 1) so it would be nice to see how high a pc can go in battlefield titles in terms of release dates.
Sweet little bugger🤣🤣
Beelink U55! i3-5005U, and I tracked one down for under$130. I use mine as a torrent rig, a HTPC...and to play OG Skyrim...
Would like to see you take a look at the chuwi larkbox or larkbox pro....also the chuwi core box looks interesting
Have you given a go, in chasing down one of them Hades Canyon NUCs (whether being Iris Graphics or the awkward joint venture AMD Vega SoC Chip)? That may supplant in streaming support / "some" gaming?
Also here's another video idea, early windows xp rig with a more modern low end pci graphics card like a geforce 210 on the pci bus.
(yes pci not pci-e, not agp)
Then sourcing like a socket 462/socket A, socket 478 or similar pc that's at
best from the year 2006 with a socket 775 pentium 4.
Runs vista or windows xp when you get it, max out it's ram is ofc another upgrade.
Put windows 7 & a modern but low end pci bus graphics card in it for youtube video acceleration as the goal & perhaps some old games with a modern low power gpu vs the existing integrated graphics or whatever graphics card it came with.
And some daily use things run smoothly & older games like Half-life 2 ,svencoop (free game, essentially half-life 1 & a huge amount of maps, & some mods in coop.)
Not sure if you have done something like this already but could be fun mini project for 2020 with a limited budget.
Did upgrade a pentium 4 pc with ddr ram first gen pci-e slot & a geforce 210 here, was a bit choppy but pleasant enough experience, specially vs the integrated garbage it has on the motherboard intel 915 chipset heh.
Nice video man i have a i3 6100 (GB-BSi3H-6100) brix which i bought used for 160 dol and it runs rocket league and coop games like overcooked 2 pretty well in 720 low, or even 1080 low nevertheless i would recomend it as a multimedia machine or maybe a server (i use it as an sql and tomcat server and it works really well it makes really little noise so you can keep it powered on in the night)
i have tested soem emulators like PCSX2 and they run fairly well too on games like DBZ BT2
This seems like it'd be great for running home servers for less demanding games, or for NAS, or both. Perhaps you should have considered using it as a ubuntu/linux machine and seeing how the experience is on that? Especially comparing it as a smaller media machine like 1080p video streaming/playback. I've had potato old netbook-laptops which go from struggling with 720p to fine 1080p RUclips playback installing standard ubuntu.
The form factor is nice, but for $80-100 maybe a used 3rd or 4th gen i5/i7 optiplex PC would be a better buy. I have had quite a bit of luck with them running modern graphics cards in both the standard desktop and SFF units. If space is a problem, the SFF optiplex units have a front to back airflow path allowing for them to be slotted under a monitor stand or directly under a less heavy display.
Nice little PC, plus it supports a 2.5 drive so I could just whack in a 1Tb or 2TB mechanical disk with no issues at all :)
Shame it only supports 1x RAM stick, and a weak CPU.
For a space saving option (e.g. what my parents need), this would be fine, except it wouldn't be an upgrade over their aging AMD E2-1800 based setup. If they did a more powerful version, I'd recommend they get something like this, plus a cheap 1080p monitor. :)
I have an HP Stream 14 with the same specs albeit with a 4gb Ram Stick. I got good performance out of it in my own opinion to be honest. DMC4 (Not SE) ran at around 40 - 50fps, Far Cry 3 with some low spec gamer tweaks (not the game breaking ones😂) gave me about 25 - 30fps, Borderlands 2 with cel-shaded black lines removed gave me about 25 - 30fps on average too, Sleeping Dogs with a 960 × 540 res. also hovered around 25 - 30fps and the original Vanilla Skyrim V runs at an almost solid 30fps when locked at the same 960 × 540 res. I did do a lot of the Intel tweak survival guides from the low spec gamer channel though. Anyways, in my opinion, for someone who lives in a country where the very concept of gaming is expensive, I was pretty content with it... and though I have a much stronger laptop now, the Intel Celeron N4000 and it's UHD 600 served me well.
Oh I forgot to add that the first 3 games I listed were all played on 720p low, so I think dropping it down to a 540p resolution might've helped, but who knows... Fps tends to behave oddly at times regardless of resolution drops😂.
You should definitely make a video of you pimping the pc with a new cpu, ram, storage, gpu, cooling, etc...
Try gaming on one of my school's computers.
Intel Celeron E3300
4GB RAM
250GB HDD
Windows 10
I had Celeron N4000 too, after checking the CPU is unlocked then I try to increasing the TDP to 12W. The performance significantly increased but the CPU temperature reached 85 degree for low spec games because this laptop is fanless, need to add cooler fan under the laptop.
To give credit where it is due, doing what it does for 6 watts isn't too terrible. That said, Raspberry PI's of various flavors exist and I am pretty sure I have seen old core 2 DUO;s dunk on that I3 in terms of performance.
Here! I didn't have any problems with Fallout on the PS3.
Granted, I've never had a PS3 in the first place, but still... :P
that explains it then haha
@@RandomGaminginHD I actually had a few issues where the FPS would completely tank or crash occasionally
For the sice of this little PC, it's is a real beast, it's only 29 times slower than my own rig in Cinebench R20, Deamn ;-)
It would be interesting to see how some retro games run on this. Old pc games and some emulators.
RandomGaminginHD maybe next time you could do an external GPU on a budget. Just wondering how this alienware laptop of yours would work
This would make a great door stop ,being serious though mini pc,s they have their purpose still good for basic task .
if it's using igpu then two sticks of ram would benefit it alot thanks to the extra bandwidth more so than capacity
My 3900X does over twice that thing in Cinebench...using 1 core...
i think this is pretty cool. if it was just slightly more powerful, i would use it as a home theater system to run movies, music and tv shows. or, just whatever. i wouldnt use it to game, but the fact that GeForce Now is a thing, i think it would be a good option to play games where a higher latency isnt a concern too, so theres that. heck, for $100, id buy a product like that. just slightly more powerful. maybe a new Ryzen APU or something and it would be perfect for home theater/casual things.
Maybe in the future you could try dual rank memory so you could utilize dual channels.
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I like the look of these mini pcs.
I got a question:
Why don't mini pcs ever incorporate laptop graphics cards?
this type of PC could serve as a pretty neat PLEX client / LibreELEC box
Can you do a video on the Celeron J4125, the quad-core Celerons that Intel put out for small form factor boxes such as the Larkbox?
Good little box for parsec, I have 1 gaming pc and use parsec to play my games on older computers connected to my TVs, My laptop an my android tablet
Would be funny to see a game like The vanishing of ethan carter running on pcs like these. You can drop the res to 300x200 to get as much fps as the IGPU can
I would try putting some laptop coolers on it, the ones that clip onto the fan grills
I have a Lenovo Tiny with a 4th gen i5 and a gtx750 with an external gpu adapter. It is connected to my tv, the gpu is there to play Mortal Kombat.
I'm curious about it's emulating potential. I wonder how well it would run GameCube Games using Dolphin Emulator? I'm thinking about getting a Mini PC for emulating GameCube, N64, SNES, NES, DS, Gameboy and a handful of PS1 Games..
PLZ run this with the RX5700XT using an external GPU solution or a GTX 1650 Super just to see what it might be capable of in games.
The newer mini machines would be killer with amd APUs , 8 core ryzen 7 with vega graphics, it will be like a mini workspace and light gaming machine at the same time
im just impressed you were able to launch skyrim se at all on that thing lol
You're not alone with New Vegas on PS3. None of the big Bethesda RPGs ran well on PS3 and they all had strange memory overflow bugs that weren't present on 360.
You should try testing the original Skyrim on this older/lower end hardware, I bought it for less then 20 Canadian dollars on G2A simply because it runs good on my laptop but the special edition doesn't
Stupid question, but re: "I don't think adding 16 gigs of DDR4 would help out," didn't Intel ARK say the max memory the N4000 supports is 8Gb?
Both FALLOUT NV and 3 are a nightmare on the PS3 due to very poor porting, i've managed to complete both getting all the trophies but by the end the game was freezing every other door I entered.
This would probably do ok for some low-end retro gaming like Gameboy or Mame
They are good for what they are considering they not aimed at gamers, but if you can do some decent streaming of games then you got a nice cheap low maintenance pc especially if you buy a used one.
I believe 8gig of ram is it's max according to the specs sheet you showed, I have been looking at the Intel Nuc myself
New Vegas actually SUCKS on ps3 I remember having a toaster rig and that, the toaster rig was steadier
These are great to put in cars to use as infotainment system.
The Amazon HDMI PC stick things look interesting
as we're on the subject of budget hardware, would you recomend a 600euro/$ pc with an intel xeon w3690 and what looks like a decent lga 1366 mobo, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1080ti with a 650w psu and a 1tb ssd?
What model is this? I see many different BRIX labeled boxes out there.. UPDATE: I'm guessing the Gigabyte GB-BLCE-4000C?
Ryzen Mini-PC? I'd love to see the V1000 in action, or if these have the full-fat Ryzen Experience, I'd be interested to see that too...
whatre your thoughts on using something like this for the shadow streaming service? i dont plan on it it just seems like a smarter route with more freedom than nvidia's version.
Perfect timing for the video
Have you had a chance to play around with a Alienware Alpha? I always thought those looked cool....