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5 training misconceptions (Our personal opinions)
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1:32 THE OFFLINE
6:24 DONT LOOK AT YOUR GUN
9:45 DONT LOOK AT YOUR HOLSTER
11:59 SEARCH AND ASSESS
15:47 NEVER WALK BACKWARDS
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1:14 THAT BEING SAID
Do helicopters eat there young you have been shot in the the time it made you to decide its bs where does the white go in snow you have been shot in the face its creating a millisecond of distant and getting off of x do you park on parkways or drive on driveways
Hardest part for us in LE these days is convincing the training staff to change their set ways. Too many old school guys working in training who are close minded to new techniques and tactics.
Can’t tell you how many times the training staff comments “You looked down at your gun as you loaded.” Yeah, I looked at the mag well to make sure I seated the mag without an issue. Meanwhile, while you’re focused on my quick glance down, I’m the first one loaded and back up sending rounds on the line 🤣
Hardest part for us training staff is convincing the new guys that just because it is on RUclips does not make it a good technique. I agree and actually try to teach everything that Mojo talked about in this video. However I struggle with people that watch other content and think that it is useable. Then when put to a slight test, on a flat range it breaks down. There is a balance that needs to be found between the new and the tried and true.
@@firefalcon07 I was going to be quick to dog you out but you are absolutely right sir. There needs to be a balance of techniques that actually work especially under duress
@Ass Clapper I would agree with content from reputable sources. However I know that not everyone, even some bigger name guys, on RUclips aren't reputable. I have seen techniques and ideas that might work well on the flat range that do not translate over to an actual fight. To also compare videos of officers in shooting to people on the range is not a fair comparison. It is like comparing a a driving video of you on a Sunday cruise to a Formula one racer during a race. even our reputable content creators will tell you, the fight will not go as planned and shit will go wrong. I would also say that most officers out there do not put the time and effort in to their firearms training that they should.
Chris....On recommendation, I Googled "Beyond the Muzzle: The Firearms instructor & Shooter Development Guide" by Bettis. Found and bought it. Great help for me as an instructor. Really helpful for re-adjusting my instructor mindset. As you know, most academy level firearms training is about shooting not fighting. The academy trainers disagree of course but that's the truth. Gunfighting is not difficult, teaching it is. Most LE instructors look better than they teach and rarely allow students/officers to be problem solvers. No wonder we lose so many fights.
@@Rustebadge I’ll definitely check it out! Thanks for the recommendation!
I'm just here because I love Mojo
Facts! Mojo is the man!
I'm just here for the violence 😅
@@helikon06 God Bless! That's what we're doing?
Same. Here for the violence.
You can't have him. He already has a flannel daddy.
I want to have the professional kid personality like him. He seems like a fun guy to hang around all day
The amount of times I got yelled at in the academy or during department training for not doing all the dumb shit they tried to teach while also shooting better than anyone else makes me cry inside.
Can I gib Midas the touch?
@@AJuniorOutdoorsman If he turns you down I'm ready for you sweetheart!
Same brother
Relatable. Only silver lining was being proficient to the point the "range masters" couldn't say shit to me about my shooting.
Rangeism gets people killed
I am no longer ashamed of building confidence in the taboo. Thank you for opening that door for me.
The biggest issue I see is the lack of context during range training. Trainers would advocate moving offline as a must and provide one or two justifying scenarios and move on. For every scenario to move offline, there are 10 for not moving. A lot of officers will blindly follow instructions without any further thoughts.
Got to meet Bryan at an instructor course this year. Super humble guy, incredible shooter; glad to have him share some of his vast knowledge!
Its kinda funny how its come full circle to stuff that I was taught in basic for MOUT training nearly 20 years ago....
-Static targets die
-Your Rifle is your life, so fix it
-Don't do the enemy a favor by shooting yourself
-Keep your head on a swivel
-Pick up your feet while you walk
Great video man. Just became a LE range instructor last year and this info is game changing from what is being put out there.
Have you seen all the qualification video comparisons by hrfunk? That might be of interest to you.
MOJO, garand, trex, warpoet, and many others posting quality content for free. Changing FUDDS way of thinking one day at a time.
I personally think the best out of these is WarPoet. I subscribed to the WPSN and well worth the $10 a month.
@@JeremyWinkels John is definietly the biggest force in Changing how a modern man should behave
Great vid, one of the best drills we came up with is walking though a doorway about 4-5 steps engaging two targets starting from retention extending to full firing position while walking backwards through the door and reloading behind cover/ concealment then pieing the doorway back out. It makes you think about a lot while basically mag dumping into two targets. We did this with our carry pistols from concealment for context.
I used to work at a range where we allowed holster draw, if you took a little safety course where we reviewed our specific rules for our specific store. One of the biggest rules was "always look at your holster when you reholster". I've seen dozens of cops miss their holsters on our range because they ignored this rule because "that's not what our department trains us to do". You're at a public range bro, I don't care what your department teaches. I've seen dudes sweep the gun backwards, flagging people behind him. Once I had a guy clear his gun, close the slide (no mag, no round in chamber) and go to reholster with his finger on the trigger. He obviously got it snagged on the holster and put a dry-fire rep into the holster. If it was loaded, probably would have been either a near-miss, or hit his leg/foot. I've seen a few people point the gun inwards, flagging their own guts while going to reholster. I've had people miss the holster entirely and let go of the firearm, just dropping it onto the floor. Of course, the most common is just fishing around with the gun, trying to get it in, then eventually just looking anyways but it's always just like "bro, I just went over the fucking rules with you and you just pointed a loaded firearm at everyone behind you".
Most of the time, they're pretty chill about it, so unless they flagged another customer, I just give a warning, let them know what happened, let them continue, and keep my eye on them. If we're super busy, or they flagged someone, they're asked to leave. If they try to fight or argue, they're kicked off and denied coming back.
I appreciate you bringing Bryan on. It’s always great to hear someone else’s input. Would Bryan ever share his kit load out on this channel? I’m always looking for new ideas to change my kit at work and improve it. I see he has his kit set up different. Would like to hear more from him.
@@rustymacshackleford6276 Don't you have a catalytic converter to steal somewhere?
@@rustymacshackleford6276 Disdain and attack are all I have for anti-cop internet trolls.
The thing that i got from this is, Risk avoidance - things like walking backwards like what Big Homie B was saying, he didn't want to give his back to the suspect so he walked backwards, or looking at the gun - you don't want to risk missing a malfunction or failing to reload/holster, etc.
Awesome video as always.
Awesome knowledge and training tips. I think that what most people will struggle with is finding a range/training facility that will allow "good" training. They seem to be over run with FUDDs.
My agency went to small group range days. 5 ish officers a range day with 2 instructors. It’s helped so many problems
I love the vids man huge inspiration to me Ive been playing airsoft but now I am getting into real steal thanks to you
Nice!
Rock on brother!!
Steel*
@@LinkxUSMC87 "real steal" would put him in real jail! 🤣
I'm also a LE firearms instructor, and I like the bit about moving 'off the X' with an actual purpose other than just a choreographed dance. I'll be using that. Our quals still have the step right/left stuff, but fortunately we have a lot of latitude when it comes to scenario-based training etc. and I don't have to include range theatrics that don't translate 'IRL.' Good stuff here. Sub'd.
I see you found your way back into law enforcement. Good for you man. Looking to do the same myself
MOJO, you nailed it. As a competition shooter from the 90's, it all comes down to training. I have worn my pistol on my waist at the 3:30 point for 36 years!! So yes I can reholster without looking. But for the newer or untrained shooters, LOOK WHEN YOU REHOLSTER, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR FINGER IN THE TRIGGER GAURD WHEN YOU DO IT. So take it slow and lots of dry fire practice will get you to where you need to be. Look up Travis Haley's "Venti 100" drill. Do it when you hit the range before your traing, and alot when you are at home for dry fire practice.
Me for years " taking one step left or right is not going to reset an enemies OODA loop."
The gun community -" you clearly don't train!"
Mojo- " Taking one step to the left or right is range theatrics"
The gun community " yassss queen!"
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Bryan, I loved seeing you on here. Fresh perspective as always Mojo. Big Gratitude!
We need a video of drills we could do from a standard shooting range. Maybe release or integrate targets to help
T Rex has one already.
@@jessegpresley thanks, appreciate the info🙏🏻
This is an excellent video! Thank you! Just something I want to add. In a law enforcement context, there is utility in holstering your gun quickly - sometimes. You have one at gun point and then find the need to transition to a less lethal option as this person closes the distance. If it’s not a lethal threat, you need to holster your gun quickly and transition. Also in a foot pursuit before you negotiate a fence - you’d likely holster quickly.
I think his argument is that you can holster much faster when you're looking. Holstering quickly before hopping a fence doesnt help you if you fumble and drop it, even more likely if you are moving towards the fence at the time also.
@@MGMan37 Interesting. Thank you.
The no look holstering and scan and assess stuff and also the "broken joystick" all crack me up. Two of the three are more theatrics than anything in the way they are done, and the no look holstering is really only applicable when transitioning to a rifle. Odds are, if you will be behind cover if you have to transition anyway.
Just wanna start off by saying I only recently started following and watching the channel but it’s all been awesome. You’re very knowledgeable, a great shooter and give really good advice. I think you should do a short of you running a Mozambique drill. You’d get a ton of views and maybe some new subscribers with your speed and skills. Also another idea would be a video on tips and advice for home defense and for people that live in apartments. Just some ideas that might generate some additional traffic on the channel and hopefully more money for you my man
Young Mojo is sharp, bringing good energy, information, and always on point. Keep up the good work!
Mojo has such a high level of energy and intensity naturally that he basically almost overwhelms people he's conversing with in normal conditions. He would probably be like the Energizer Bunny on crack in a shots fired situation. Love you Mojo Man, you're my Hero!!!
When I was I police academy, I tried telling one of the instructors almost exactly what you were talking about being threat focused and a few other things. She was like, you were in the military weren’t you? I said yeah, and then she kind of laughed, she shook her head and said you have to get out of the military mindset. Blew my mind. I told her that training that we received was lessons learned in combat. It’s frustrating when you have eight years experience in the Marine Corps, been deployed, just to be told by somebody that’s a police officer that’s never been in a a firefight saying what I was doing was incorrect, so fucking frustrating. Well anyway I got the top shot award. The only one from my departments history to shoot a perfect score on every event. Tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about 😂
Really good insights and perspectives. Sometimes we hear what has become common advice so many times that we stop questioning what is really a "best practice" and whether what we have always done is really a best practice.
The fact that Brian is left handed is a huge deal for me. So many guntubers are right handed and have the luxury of a right handed dominated system. Would really love to have a gear setup and brands he uses that are left handed friendly. Thank you both for your service.
I definitley get what you guys are saying..One thing I think that gets left out with the "get off the X" sidestep is what scenario are you thinking about in your head too? If you are just thinking " ok step left, now shoot this piece of paper" you ain't doing nothing for yourself. Now if you are imagining in your head quick reaction gunfight, "ok now my enemy has ducked behind cover of a car 10 feet away. Now it's time to supress and maneuver while I have his head down" It could be valuable. It might sound like fluff but it is a serious training advantage to take your experiences, most likely scenarios for your job, and really play that fleshed out image as you train is highly valuable...Just try it next range visit and see what you think.
Love this video. You guys are putting out great information with it. As I watched I found that I am teaching everything you talked about to our guys at my department. I would say the hardest thing to actually incorporate though is the movement part. Like you said, if I have 10 to 15 guys on a line, it is really hard to get they to be able to make purposeful movement without causing safety issues. I will have to try the barricade thing and see if that helps. As for holstering, I tell my guys that if I don't have a second to look at my holster I should not be putting my gun away.
I think this is a good thing to reevaluate because there are the fundamental movements that need to be practiced like move for cover, move to cover, advance and retreat. But then there are more dynamic movements that can really help a team and individuals. Iv only seen one person practiced this technique. It's required when you are being ambushed or ingaged. He quickly lowers his body parallel with the ground. From that position he ingages. Then quickly moves to better cover. I want to train like that.
Good stuff. Never been a believer on the offline especially when it comes to close quarter engagements inside of a home or other small space where the offline or getting off the X would make a huge difference. I have seen people firing from behind other officers. Hopefully they don’t catch one in the grape by just moving.
The one that hit me the most was not looking while reholstering. It just makes sense to look while holstering hit that second to look holster and transition. Why fumble look and get good. Get good enough and apply tactics to give you the time or tools you need to win. Even if that means buying time to look while holstering to transition or find cover to reload.
This kind of teaching would cost you close to $80-$200 an hour be happy that mojo is doing it for free.
love how the intros keep changing, the video quality is superior as always
That scream during the reloads what dudes do when they dont look😂😂
The PD I worked for taught the same “Draw and Move” technique as well. That was 2007 and I believe they still do w no plans for changes.
3 drills I’m definitely doing at the next range sesh cause Mojo told me to: Offline, Shooting moving backwards, and Sideways heel to toe.
Thanks Mojo!
Mojo I see u rocking dat alien gear Duty holster I been rocking mine for about 10 months Now best duty holster out
The Rapid Force rocks. Love mine too, smooth, fast and seems well built.
@@danclas5983best out there
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@@SoccerVJ2011 yea
First off, GREAT VID AS ALWAYS!
No excuses. "I have a 15 to 20 man line, I can't facilitate a safe range if I do any excessive movement (or any of the above examples)." is not reason enough.Marine Combat Instructors have 200+ students, sometimes double (during my time) and they do live fire iterations all day with maybe 20 instructors if that. They don't sacrifice the safety, instead they sacrifice time, the day has to necessarily be longer. Short and easy days is not a luxury you can afford in any job that involves run and gun or just any high stress job. make the training better even if it takes away from an "easy day".
Checking holster is a good practice. I do it with AIWB too. Many times I had to move my shirt so it wont get tucked into holster by pistol. And for duty holster. If You are doing more MIL related stuff, You might want to check if You don't have some stuff in Your holster that doesn't belong in there. Because... outside of flat range stuff like that can happen.
I think the best way to show edification the "offline" stuff works is both in a raw sims (meaning literally take samples of students in a Wild Wild West draw scenario) were one off-lines and the other is stationary and record who hits and who doesn't. Rinse repeat swapping the student who moves offline. There is some flies in the ointment on this because the individual students will determine somewhat of the outcome.
Second you look at contextual scenarios like a traffic stops for example as you get out of your car on the freeway or two lane rd. I know I'm NOT of off lining into traffic period. I'm skinning gun leather and getting my work on then changing positions to the back of my car OR the suspects car depending on where I am. Change the scenario and you are walking towards violator vehicle and are in the no mans land between both and shots come from vehicle or suspect exits and starts shooting. I'm advancing towards suspect vehicle and working towards a position of cover using the suspect vehicle. Context matters but also raw data points shaded with the student body baseline matters. SHOWING the student body by putting them in the scenario and letting them FAIL and correct the behavior to develop better schema WORKS. I know based upon arbitrary examples that I'm still faster offline then my co workers. But I'm even faster getting rounds on target standing my ground and throwing rounds at the suspect THEN moving. Sometimes literally demonstrating and showing them the timer and then making them take the ouchie rounds in SIMs drives home this point.
This is great truthful experience backed wisdom. If I could just add the simple concept that ties theses great points all together is opening up our vision!! It’s a trained habit that becomes a skill. Forcing your eyes to to pick up the information in the peripheral vision opening our corners and expanding them. It’s something I continually work on while I’m driving walking talking with someone. To the point that it causes eye strain at times. But it has worked for me. Thanks for all the great content Mojo SEMPER FI 💪💪
I'm glad you guys have the same thoughts on these things that I always thought. Confirmation is nice to hear sometimes.
I honestly get weirded out. Especially being new to all this. "So much advice but, what is the right advice?" i would usually ask myself. So sometimes i just find whats easiest for me but, stay quiet when i see someone do some weird vodoo shit. Because what do i know lol
Mojo tryied to give hands @ the opening vídeo! 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm somewhat new to instruction. Oftentimes we are given training material and told to teach it. I've noticed oftentimes there is a big disconnect between the point of the training vs what it looks like in an open environment not on a range. It's important to give students that information and also make the training as close to the reap environment as possible, while maintaining safety of course.
The enormous man crush Mojo has on this man is almost as big as the man crush we all have on Mojo. No homo, it is what it is guys. Embrace it.
1: The Offline
2: Don't look at your gun
3: Don't look at your holster
4: Search and assess
5: Never walk backwards
Dope! Thanks for these tip videos. Need more of this knowledge in the industry!
I hear people say don’t use airsoft for training because you don’t get the same trigger and recoil but in the same breath say to get a 22 trainer. is there a difference between the 2 cause the 2 have little to no recoil your not getting your actual trigger but with airsoft you can do it in your backyard or in your house
Bryan bestowed us with some knowledge!.... More please.
In MOUT they told us never walk backward and never cross your feet if you had to turn sharply so you don't trip yourself. Good idea to pay attention during reloading or clearing a malfunction. And do so from cover if available. Slow is smooth smoothe is fast.
9:35 that's the "Tactical Cha-Cha-Cha". 🤣
The step left and step right movement drill is absolutely worthless.. Y’all nailed it. It’s absolutely about range safety versus realistic or good movement during a real use of force event.
Guy terrified clearing his house with a knife
Me: laughs in 12 ga
IMHO, moving offline is just an exercise to move and reacquire the target. Practicing acquiring the target after moving is purposeful and is not a waste of time. Moving to cover and different shooting positions would be more realistic but as discussed, a formal firing line has limitations.
Mojo wins the opening video style game.
Absolutely, stepping off-line without actually moving to cover and without continuing to fire doesn't achieve much, scanning while reaching, looking while loading, positively reholstering the sidearm, deliberate, purposeful post-engagement sequence, firing on the move from a stable platform, all best practice combat shooting.
That's a quick AF trigger finger, accompained by a sweet-ass moustache!
Thankfully my police academy prefaced that us moving while drawing to “get off the X” is just getting us in the mindset of moving to cover. They said we will move to the next level of moving all the way to cover, rather than one step, once we hit our next firearms day. Thankfully they don’t teach taking one step after firing to “get off the X.”
However, one instructor did say we should “eventually not have to look at our holster because we should be threat focused.” Dumb.
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Grand Thumb is cool internet uncle.
Mojo is older internet brother.
Thanks for the info bro. This is a fantastic video!
This is great stuff to hear from 2 professionals, thank you gentlemen!!
I think the offline is misconstrued between people. I was taught to move with intent after an engagement to reload / get to cover. Moving left 2-3 steps just to shoot again is stupid. That's usually the biggest discrepancy I see between "offlining"
I see both sides of walking backwards....I have seen cops falling down walking backwards in a gun fight....both have pros and cons
Bro I’ve seen em fall down just walking😂 Train train train. So many in the profession go through the motions and it’s a shame. I refuse!
Dude walking backwards under stress is funny as hell. I've biffed it so many times haha
We don't rise to the level of expectations. We fall to our level of training.
Great content sir, thanks for your insights.
In case you want to holster quickly because you want to go hands on for an arrest it is nice to Do that without looking...the situation might change quickly. But you clearly mentioned that there are no 100% rules.
Could not agree more with the other points. Thanks again, your content is amazing and your skill level is from another Planet.
Greetings from Germany, Michael (Active SEK officer / standing SWAT)
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lol "Bruh" (9:38) Great videos Dudes. Dig the content.
I don't always go larping... but when I do I prefer to be Mojo.
Stay ready my friends.
It all makes sense to me. Thank you guys for making this video. Semper Fi.
"Cha-cha-cha-cha-shot!"
You heard it. I heard it. We all heard it.
MSGT Paul Howe (SFOD-D) said he never shot on the move in combat during his entire career.
No he never said that. What is your point.
I love the gunfight around the car drill with sims or airsoft. Makes you think with a chess mindset.
Does 1 and 5 not contradict? Agree with everything but one unless im not understanding. The way I untilize it is shooting as u mive the whole time not shoot then move. As im out holster im lateral.
Thank you mojo for this. This is truly helpful stuff. You are the best 🇺🇸
Great video as always, Maybe some video about physical training especially for marines? That would be awesome, take care!
Why is mojo such a likeable guy?
Do you do some type of push/pull method to keep your carbine flat when you're shooting those fast strings of fire?
I always look around the range and at myself, just to make sure I haven't shot anything I shouldn't. Im straight up paranoid about losing rounds.
Someone please take mojo's spitting sound and add it to squidward walking.
Index elbow to orient gun in front of your face so you have "Eyes, muzzle, target" glance from target to insert magazine, eyes back to target.
MOJO was a Marine. That's all I need to know to be here.
I like Bryan. Bring him back sometime.🤙
I see Mojo running different guns and keep thinking “I remember that gun being smaller. It looks so big when Mojo runs it. “
good stuff - Any chance you could make a video on parallel zero for your IR/ vis laser??
Mojo I’m wondering, with your agency I notice that you guys get to where almost what you’d like it seems, within reason. Before you came to the decision of going with them, how where you able to know that you are allowed to do that ? If that’s the case. Kinda of a stupid question but I am active duty currently and would like to go into LE when I’m done. I was in corrections prior of coming in but I didn’t know anything of my old agency at the time until I was already in, granted corrections is different…I’d just like to know what resources or strategies did you use to choose an agency that wasn’t “gay” if you will, about what you could and couldn’t were on you in duty. Thanks in advance 👍🏼😌
the road to hell is paved with "good intentions"... aka... training misconceptions
As always a wealth of knowledge and common sense. Thanks mojo!
I feel like a lot of this stuff is place holders for other skillsets that can't be practiced on a flat range, but or just gets enshrined as some sort of ritual. It's like, look, I want you to remember to move at this point, and we'll cover that later, but today we're just trying to get center mass hits.
It's like takedowns in BJJ. We start on the ground because we aren't working on takedowns today. But if you never go to takedown cptsd, you've got a big hole in your game.
MOJO filled out paperwork to ask the government to be able to carry his rifle and the other dude said "hell to tha naw"
Great info! Bryan 👍🏻👍🏻
Love your videos brotha. Thank you for knowledge!
While I understand and agree with most of this, it seemed centered on law enforcement. That’s not exactly a complaint, but the “train in kit” thing seems reasonable, if you spend your day in something approaching full kit. If you’re a civilian who walks around with a concealed, compact, sidearm and one tourniquet, that’s how you should train, most of the time. I know guys who show up to “CCW” training courses wearing body armor and drop-holsters, and I’m like, is that what you carry? And they’re like, Fuck no, but you gotta train HARD!
Yeah, it's funny because I'll show up to a course in jeans with 11 rounds in the gun and a 12 round mag in my front pocket, and the Grunt Style guys with six mags and a Glock 17 on their belt want to look down their nose. Like, I'm not training for the apocalypse, my most likely threat is some junkie with a screwdriver.
Whooa sonny becareful with that gear talk around theses parts. You don't want a bunch or LARP'ers breathing down your neck making counter accusations of being a "bRO vEt" or "gAtEkEePiNg".🤣🤣🤣
You raise an excellent point. "Train as you fight" is not often trained realisticly. When I train concealed, I wear normal clothes (and how i carry). And train in kit for work
Mojo out there spitin facts..
I’m a simple man. I see Mojo offering free advice, I hit play and then like👍
Your agency pick you back up or did you get picked up by a better one after you left/ let go?
Got a mean mustache game going on