The sad part is, everyone in the area knew exactly who’d murdered Caroline but they wouldn’t “grass”. Pathetic. At least the 3 creeps who beat and chucked her into the river have now been found guilty and are gonna be in prison. Just a shame it took so long.
@Highland_Moo In so many Crimewatch cases people know who did it but don't come forward because the police have a bad reputation for corruption The truth sometimes comes out here in the comments. People who have been asked to come forward to be "eliminated from the inquiry" may have been falsely accused just for doing the right thing? Who knows? BECAUSE, Look at the Cardiff 4 case. It was PLAINLY stated in the Lynnette White murder reconstruction on Crimewatch, that the suspect was a WHITE man, with blood on his hands, crying in a doorway on Jame St. SO then, HOW after that reconstruction did the Cardiff police arrest 4 men of color including Lynnette's boyfriend?????? AND the biggest irony is that Lynnette was missing from home for 5 days before her murder, because the cops were after her to "give evidence in court". I'm going to assume they wanted Lynette to give FALSE testimony and she didn't want to! Because the cops were able to get false testimony against the Cardiff 4.......by using witnesses lifestyle against them. They were all drug users or prostitutes, so well known to the police and easily used.
When the case went to court it was quite obvious that Caroline's killers were total scummy neds. Reading about their modern life since the murder it's clear they never changed and were scum for life, much like the Stephen Lawrence lot. So glad justice has been done.
also is no one going to talk about that poor elderly woman, who had to go through a rape at her age and then having a stroke later that day then dying. i can't with that, broke my heart
@@kopthelotklopp1523 usually the perp either emigrated or died hence no DNA match. They could do familial DNA on a lot of these rape cases and find out who done it but there's neither the time or resources.
2 in the morning I am from Glasgow and I stayed out late but at 14 not till 2 am and iam a boy of the same age I remember this on news I have two daughters and would not let them stay out till that time
Innocent til proven guilty is a cornerstone of our legal system. I'm not commenting on whether I think they are guilty or not, but you can't say her mother has justice until someone is found guilty of this terrible crime.
@@rs-qt1qg strange then why these murders remain unsolved/take a long time to solve there’s another one in sep/oct 1992 where the girl was out past midnight surely the police would just hang around the area long enough and likely bump into the people who were either witnesses or the perpetrators of the crime
Caroline's killers. Thought they were free & clear after all these years. Makes you wonder how the hell they lived with themselves! Three finally convicted & set to be sentenced on Caroline's 42nd birthday in Jan 2024. The fourth killer would also have been convicted but she died in 2019. Caroline had arranged to meet these "friends", one of whom being her boyfriend. They repeatedly beat & kicked her about the head, leaving her unconscious. She then drowned. May Caroline Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🌹 xxx
I know totally irresponsible mother. Those saying things were different then is rubbish. I was born in the 1960s and had to be in at 9pm at that age. My kids were born in the 1980s and again were never allowed out late until they were 18+.
All three defendants in CG’s murder case found GUILTY. Another mystery solved and hopefully finally closure for her family. The creeps who evaded justice for 27 years are finally going to pay for the heinous crime of murdering a young girl.
Rabia Chowdhury when I was that age though we did all nighters and lie to parents where we were. We’d be out getting drunk and stuff. You can’t always look over your kids 24/7.. kids are sneaky fckers lol
The police made a terrible mess of the investigation. It was much more likely to have been a professional hit than the work of the local village idiot.
pat tom it’s a cruel twist of fate that Jill Dando was murdered when she helped to catch many murderers on Crimewatch. I hope they catch her killer and convict him.
2:03 This is also the guy who nailed Kenneth Noye for the Swanley slip road M25 murder. So funny when Det. Supt. Nick Biddiss said in the Noye film on here....that in order to catch Noye, he'd been to more weddings and funerals than Hugh Grant. A fantastic watch that one is!
Maybe NB needs to hang around the House of Lords,instead of the Gov's pet detective, Hamish Campbell being put on the Dando case? The main man is in there?
Have you seen the state of them?! One other would've been convicted but she died in 2019. The best witness proved to be one of the children that two of the killers were babysitting! Archie was taken to the river with his baby brother & saw it all happen!
i can't think who would want someone paying a visit at 2.00 a.m. did no one (e.g. her mum,) say to her to leave the folks alone? Three local people have been charged in the past few weeks so unless the whole town was fully nocturnal . . . . .
My parents were more liberal than my friends' parents, but they had a few absolute rules in the 1970s, my teen years...no phone calls made or received from friends after 9:30 pm, no going out at night until I was 16 and was out with a few close friends I wouldn't separate from... They weren't terribly strict, but they didn't have to worry with me, I wasn't wild. I didn't like doing unsafe things. And if I was out I had to call home somehow, find a payphone or use a friend's home phone, around 10:00 pm and tell them exactly when I'd be heading home. I didn't abuse it. At 14? Out at 2 am? My parents would've been out looking for me by 11:15, bringing the police if necessary. It just didn't happen. And at 14, it never occurred to me to ask. I was rather a dreamy loner who preferred home and a good book
The Caroline Glachan video is heart breaking. But I’m wandering if the small town she lived in was generally a safe place where everyone knew each other and where these crimes are rare?
Not really. It's one of several settlements which are basically interconnected along the River Leven area between Balloch and Dumbarton, and it's quite a popular tourist route from Glasgow to Dumbarton to Loch Lomond. There was another murder of a teenaged drug addict prostitute called Amy Anderson whose body was found in the same River Leven a few years later, but the killer was caught pretty quickly and recently died in prison, so it's not believed to be linked.
The path Caroline walked along was pitch black and it was 12am. Was she not scared? Would she have been able to see in the dark? I’m shocked she started walking down there by herself and she wouldn’t have been able to see a lot in the dark.
I went to same school as Caroline. Can vaguely remember her. That path is somewhere you never walk at night, even back then people knew not to walk along at night.
True must have been crazy, even in daylight if its a quiet and a place where people can easily hide I would avoid plus easy place to push you in the river.
@@ajs41 definitely not! she'd arranged to meet people there - the ones who turned to be her potential murders. Three people now charged with her murder and awaiting trial. Seems like she was victim of a campaign of teenage violence over a protracted period.
The chap who bought the skip lorry on 16:06 looked like he acted on a crimewatch reconstruction in June 92 when he and and accomplice robbed a lorry with it's load.
As sad as it was to hear from my mate Marc he wad actually one of the security guards that was on site on the robbery in Frimley he's actually the person in the reconstruction on the floor with a gun to his head but in fact it wasn't a hand gun it was a double barrel shotgun that was put up to his head it mentally scared him he has one of the worst types of bipolar it's so horrible to see it in him but he can't help it he's a good mate to me helped me out alot it's so horrible that those fuckers got away and were never caught never found unfortunately but he can't work again because of that day he never got any help with what happend that day it's disgusting how they didn't offer any support as to what happend having a gun put up to your head not being shot still mentally fucks people up but I'm just glad he a bit of help at the end
Hi Andrew I have added a comment but it is being repeatedly deleted because RUclips think it is spam. It is about todays news aout Caroline Glachan: Three arrests over 1996 death of schoolgirl.
I agree but it's not PC to say anything , parents have to be responsible too , I know its wrong but women and girls aren't safe out on their own at night. I drive home from bf 's in the early hrs and the amount of young girls I see walking about alone , I'm scared in the car at this hour and lock all my doors.
Valerie Mc Phail Unfortunately, Misery never takes a holiday, but one is usually safer during the day, than at night. I don’t know about you, but my fear is heightened when it gets dark. Having said that, the only person at fault here is the perpetrator.
Odd as it might sound, 14 used to be regarded as not that young at one time. For example look at this interview with Frank Zappa's 14 year old daughter Moon Unit in 1982. She looks about twice that age. ruclips.net/video/ijg2_vVyu0Q/видео.html
The Caroline Glachan case is still unsolved to this day, they had a reappeal couple years back on the 20th anniversary. Its truly baffling as to why someone would kill a 14 year old girl in such a manner in a totally motiveless crime it seems. 😔
There is always a motive to these crimes - maybe the killer wanted to rape her but she resistedand he killed her and lost the urge to rape OR the person responsible just wanted to kill someone for kicks or thrills and Caroline just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time...
they have got three people charged and the trial is after new year,. donna brand, andrew kelly and robert o'brien were from dunbarton and are a couple of years older than caroline.
I knew Ken Speakman, When i was 14 he used to let me in his house to show me his guns. 2 years later the police took me to the station to have my fingerprints taken to eliminate me from there enquiry i was 15. It was very strange how the killers business card had the same surname as me too. They later found his his name was Anthony Swindells of Broadstairs. I will never forget being a suspect for a murder. Ken was a very nice bloke and very well known in the town.
I have December 1994 but unfortunately it's only 35 minutes long and cuts out about 10 minutes before the end. I'm not sure whether to upload it or not.
@@ajs41 Mate where I live in Kilmarnock teenagers as young as thirteen are running the streets all night long ,most of them off their heads on drink or drugs.
BBC News: BBC News Scotland: Mon 15 January 2024. Caroline Glachan murder: Two men jailed for killing schoolgirl in 1996. Caroline Glachan, 14, was a pupil at Our Lady and St Patrick's High School in Dumbarton Two men have been jailed for life for murdering a schoolgirl in West Dunbartonshire more than 27 years ago. The body of Caroline Glachan, 14, was discovered on the banks of the River Leven in Renton on 25 August 1996. Robert O'Brien must serve at least 22 years in prison and Andrew Kelly will have to serve at least 18 years before they can apply for parole. Donna Marie Brand, who was also found guilty of murder, was unfit to attend court and will be sentenced later. The trio had denied murder but were convicted after a two-week trial at the High Court in Glasgow. Judge Lord Braid described the murder as "brutal, depraved and above all wicked". How a four-year-old boy helped solve 1996 murder Three guilty of murdering schoolgirl 27 years ago The jury was told that Caroline, from Bonhill, had been "infatuated" with O'Brien. On the night of her murder, she had arranged to meet him at a bridge on the River Leven at around midnight. She was killed in what prosecutors described as a "horrific and violent attack", suffering at least 10 blows to the head and extensive skull fractures. The jury heard she may have been alive but was most likely unconscious when she entered the water. Robert O'Brien, Andrew Kelly and Donna Marie Brand wee found guilty of murder after a two-week trial Her body was later discovered by a passer-by, face down in the river. A massive murder investigation was launched, but there was no breakthrough until the case was re-examined by Police Scotland's Major Investigation Team in 2019. Officers re-interviewed residents of a street in Renton where O'Brien, Kelly and Brand had claimed they spent the night of the murder. An upstairs neighbour said she had seen four people - including Kelly and his girlfriend, the late Sarah Jane O'Neill - leaving the flat before midnight. Kelly and O'Neill had been babysitting two boys, and had been joined by O'Brien and his girlfriend Brand. They took four-year old Archie Wilson and his baby brother Jamie along with them when they went out. When they returned more than an hour later, the neighbour heard a commotion and an argument. Key evidence This discovery enabled officers to corroborate an account given by Archie the day after Caroline was attacked. Archie had told his mother Betty that he had been at the river and that had seen fighting and Caroline falling into the water. His evidence proved to be the key to finally convicting O'Brien, 45, and Kelly and Brand, who are both 44. Caroline's mother Margaret McKeich welcomed the guilty verdict at the end of the trial and said her daughter could now rest in peace. "It will not bring her back but at least we know that who was responsible is serving time for it," she said. "Because for the past 25 years they've had their life and they've had their Christmases and their birthdays and my Caroline was in the ground." Caroline Glachan Image caption, Caroline sustained extensive skull fractures in the attack Passing sentence, Lord Braid said: "You have taken a daughter from a loving mother. "Mrs McKeich has spoken of the pain that Caroline's death has caused, the void her death has left that will never be filled. "She has been deprived of seeing the woman that Caroline would have become. No sentence that I pass could possibly make up for what she has lost." He said O'Brien had been the main perpetrator of the "murderous assault", and that no-one who heard evidence of the injuries he inflicted on Caroline could fail to be sickened. "Then having assaulted her and left her unconscious, you left her face down in the river," he said. "While she may have died from the injuries inflicted on her, she died from drowning." The judge said that while Kelly played a lesser role, he was also involved in inflicting "murderous violence" on the teenager.
What sort of parent allows their children at fourteen years of age out until two o clock in the morning and I mean seriously no parent in their right frame of mind would ever allow a kid of that age especially a young girl out until the early hours of the morning poor parenting in my opinion if you ask me
This guy used this stolen credit card over 82 times? You would cancel the card after losing it & especially after mysterious transactions started to occur.
Nick Ross mentions they reconstructed the Margaret Wilson murder 18 months before this episode, which would make it June 1995, which is incorrect. If I remember correctly it was on the December 1995 episode 15:10
Parenting in Scotland seems good, a 14 year old allowed out till 2am, the mcanns leaving kids in a foreign apartment, a parent letting their 7 year old girl going to fetch fish and chips on her own and being abducted for 8 hours and sexually assaulted just to name a few..
Sadly part of the legacy of post industrial britain back then. Not much had changed really since the Victorian era. Chaotic families, poverty that was like something out of Oliver twist. Added to that the collapse of traditional industries that led to a lot of communities losing any remaining hope. Drugs and antisocial behaviour became even more of a regular undercurrent. Scotland sadly still has the highest rate of drugs deaths in Europe.
@@zeddeka the mother seemed more concerned with going out with her fiancé than the fact her 14 year old CHILD was going out into the early hours, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with drugs. This seemed to be a regular occurrence. Wonder how long she'd walked the streets at night like that? 13 ,12 ,10? Her only child aswell. Very shameful.
I bumped into the same 'Irish Problem' in that small town,by someone of the same surname, that ended up with a Police officer from Police Scotland, with Irish origins being sacked...beginning to see the bigger picture here...looking after their own?
Do you know anything about the troubles in NI? Do you know how the police treated Catholics? 'Looking after their own' indeed, ha!! It seems you don't have an 'Irish problem' so much as a Racist Problem!
@@jangles8061 There was never anything stopping them going south, suppose,in a nation surrounded by water,only they could have a famine, because Sir Francis Drake had brought them back some spuds to plant? Might want to check all the surnames doing the drugs,arson,murders...yeah,"Irish problem"??
@@AACE73 I know what you mean! My dad only got one so early because he worked part time at a university in Birmingham, and they started using email a lot earlier than everyone else.
@@ajs41 Aaaah! I got the computer for my son, he was in infant school & they had started using them in lessons. Funny thing is, I have a MacBook now, yet use my mobile for pretty much everything! 🥴
I thought his accomplice was Mike Brewer (from Wheeler Dealers ("'old out yer 'and!")) The one who appears @ 20:30, in case you're not sure who I mean. :)
I like to catch up with the outcome of all these but can't find a thing about most of them. Apparently due to an EU law of anonymity for life ?? Ridiculous
Jill Can do was also herself murdered, how ironic that she once presented Crime watch.. I'm being targeted also. July 1939, to June/July /December 1987 - October 2018.
U fucking kidding me my mate was the security guard in the reconstruction in the robbey in Frimley it mentally fucked him up it wasn't a hand gun like they said they had double barrel shotguns with live amo having a gun point up to your head not being shot at still fucks up I pray someone does it to you one day so then you'll know what it's like u prick
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
In the fall of 2021 Three suspects were arrested in the death of Caroline Glachan. Two men and a woman. The suspects are now 42, 42 and 43. They would have been 17-18 when 14 year old Caroline was murdered.
Jill Can do was also herself murdered, how ironic that she once presented Crime watch.. I'm being targeted also. July 1939, to June/July /December 1987 - October 2018.
Jill Can do was also herself murdered, how ironic that she once presented Crime watch.. I'm being targeted also. July 1939, to June/July /December 1987 - October 2018.
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 stalked/hunted - newspapers trying to create stories. it didn't begin with the leveson enquiry. private dectective daniel morgan was killed because he was going to expose it. paid stalkers, access to DVLA records, driving licences, criminal records, bank accounts, phone taps all to set up newsworthy reactions from their target. look what they did to sheila bamber and that family. she was convinced that she was being followed and her phone tapped but they convinced her it was mental illness. jaqui hames was a victim. (strangely it all begins with the american crime spree called the zodiac killer who sent ciphers to the newspapers - hence the word Crimewatch in the start sequence of the show is a wavy shape and one method of solving ciphers is the 'billowy wave'. note that the new start sequence began at the same time as jill dando joined the show.
The sad part is, everyone in the area knew exactly who’d murdered Caroline but they wouldn’t “grass”. Pathetic. At least the 3 creeps who beat and chucked her into the river have now been found guilty and are gonna be in prison. Just a shame it took so long.
i cant stand that "nobody likes a grass" mentality
@Highland_Moo
In so many Crimewatch cases people know who did it but don't come forward because the police have a bad reputation for corruption
The truth sometimes comes out here in the comments.
People who have been asked to come forward to be "eliminated from the inquiry" may have been falsely accused just for doing the right thing?
Who knows?
BECAUSE,
Look at the Cardiff 4 case.
It was PLAINLY stated in the Lynnette White murder reconstruction on Crimewatch,
that the suspect was a WHITE man,
with blood on his hands, crying in a doorway
on Jame St.
SO then, HOW after that reconstruction did the Cardiff police arrest 4 men of color including Lynnette's boyfriend??????
AND the biggest irony is that Lynnette was missing from home for 5 days before her murder,
because the cops were after her to "give evidence in court".
I'm going to assume they wanted Lynette to give FALSE testimony and she didn't want to!
Because the cops were able to get false testimony against the Cardiff 4.......by using witnesses lifestyle against them. They were all drug users or prostitutes,
so well known to the police and easily used.
When the case went to court it was quite obvious that Caroline's killers were total scummy neds. Reading about their modern life since the murder it's clear they never changed and were scum for life, much like the Stephen Lawrence lot.
So glad justice has been done.
also is no one going to talk about that poor elderly woman, who had to go through a rape at her age and then having a stroke later that day then dying. i can't with that, broke my heart
Did they ever catch the piece of sh*t who did that?
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 still unsolved
@@markdavidson9100 that's terrible. You'd think with DNA they'd have caught him.
@@kopthelotklopp1523 usually the perp either emigrated or died hence no DNA match. They could do familial DNA on a lot of these rape cases and find out who done it but there's neither the time or resources.
27 yrs later and Caroline Clachan killers have finally been brought to justice. RIP Caroline ❤
2 in the morning I am from Glasgow and I stayed out late but at 14 not till 2 am and iam a boy of the same age I remember this on news I have two daughters and would not let them stay out till that time
What time do you your children have to be in at?
was wrong especially as a young girl
Oh,it's okay for a boy but not for a girl?
Ur comment is shocking
Watched all your recent crimewatch uploads. Big thank you for all your work upping these. :)
Seen that three people are due up in court for the murder of Caroline Glachan..so happy her mother has some justice after all this time 🙏🏻
Innocent til proven guilty is a cornerstone of our legal system.
I'm not commenting on whether I think they are guilty or not, but you can't say her mother has justice until someone is found guilty of this terrible crime.
What the hell is a 14 year old child doing heading out at 10.30. Irresponsible mother.
It was actually more common back then. Now social media has changed things
@@rs-qt1qg was it? I was a child of the 90s and kids were back in by 10pm at the latest
@@88rtd So was I. Depends on area and upbringing I guess
@@rs-qt1qg it was only common with kids of very dysfunctional families.
@@rs-qt1qg strange then why these murders remain unsolved/take a long time to solve there’s another one in sep/oct 1992 where the girl was out past midnight surely the police would just hang around the area long enough and likely bump into the people who were either witnesses or the perpetrators of the crime
Caroline's killers. Thought they were free & clear after all these years. Makes you wonder how the hell they lived with themselves!
Three finally convicted & set to be sentenced on Caroline's 42nd birthday in Jan 2024. The fourth killer would also have been convicted but she died in 2019.
Caroline had arranged to meet these "friends", one of whom being her boyfriend. They repeatedly beat & kicked her about the head, leaving her unconscious. She then drowned.
May Caroline Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🌹 xxx
ugh when i heard Jill Dandos name, like she was presenting this and then ended up being a case herself later on. pretty eerie that
After an unacceptably long gap, it's Aladdin's cave. Said no one ever.
Robert Nunn Exactly 😂
On a recently uploaded episode, Sue Cook introduced AC with “And now on to one of our more popular features of the show...”
Oh, Sue...
@@Wadworth6XLad Eric Knowles amended the autocue...
That's mean. I love the queen who presents it.
Could anyone give an actual shit about Aladdin's cave? I bet people who see stuff of their own on there can't even be arsed with it. Fucking tedious!
Birthday dinner at 10.20pm where we’re they going? Letting 14 yr olds stay out past midnight not the best parenting in the world
Crimes can happen at any time of day. You sound like an overprotective American whose kids will never grow up.
@88rtd = a tedious know-it-all. I feel sorry for the people who have to tolerate your company.
I know totally irresponsible mother. Those saying things were different then is rubbish. I was born in the 1960s and had to be in at 9pm at that age. My kids were born in the 1980s and again were never allowed out late until they were 18+.
All three defendants in CG’s murder case found GUILTY. Another mystery solved and hopefully finally closure for her family. The creeps who evaded justice for 27 years are finally going to pay for the heinous crime of murdering a young girl.
14 year olds shouldn’t be out at 2 am😞
yes i know but she was with friends ..
@gareth roblyn i know doll its so sad ...
I agree...
I just just gonna put something similar but 12am
Rabia Chowdhury when I was that age though we did all nighters and lie to parents where we were. We’d be out getting drunk and stuff. You can’t always look over your kids 24/7.. kids are sneaky fckers lol
Ironic that Jill dando would go on to be victim of murder
The police made a terrible mess of the investigation. It was much more likely to have been a professional hit than the work of the local village idiot.
Ridiculous thing to say.
pat tom it’s a cruel twist of fate that Jill Dando was murdered when she helped to catch many murderers on Crimewatch. I hope they catch her killer and convict him.
Awww....clever boy!
It was a cover-up she got to close to the peados ring within the BBC so they shut her up that's my theory anyway
Jill Dando always looks and sounds as if she is the Head Teacher of a posh girls' school.
She sounds a bit like Theresa May.
Sue's voice was much softer.
She was lovely. A really good person.
@@stanmarshthedarsh She might have been, but her style of presenting as not as good as Sue.
RIP Jill
Seeing Caroline dancing in the home video..bless her heart❤Rest in peace sweetheart.
Heard on the radio during the week that two men and a woman have been charged with Caroline Glachans's murder.
Yes I did as well. Excellent news.
It only took twenty five years .
@@treasurehunteruk9718 Well spotted.
I guarantee you that, when my daughter is 14, she will not be leaving the house at 10.20pm.
Same here 😔
Was it her mother doing the reconstruction..strange
@@AmandaEm7
I'm not sure, was it?
Why do we think therd is this magic time that if you're home before that time,nothing will happen to you?
2:03 This is also the guy who nailed Kenneth Noye for the Swanley slip road M25 murder. So funny when Det. Supt. Nick Biddiss said in the Noye film on here....that in order to catch Noye, he'd been to more weddings and funerals than Hugh Grant. A fantastic watch that one is!
Maybe NB needs to hang around the House of Lords,instead of the Gov's pet detective, Hamish Campbell being put on the Dando case? The main man is in there?
Three people have been convicted of the murder of Caroline Glachan yesterday. So happy the mother saw justice be done in the end.
Thanks for the information Wesley.
Have you seen the state of them?!
One other would've been convicted but she died in 2019.
The best witness proved to be one of the children that two of the killers were babysitting! Archie was taken to the river with his baby brother & saw it all happen!
No way would I let a 14 yr old out till 2 in the morning . No fuckin way .
i can't think who would want someone paying a visit at 2.00 a.m. did no one (e.g. her mum,) say to her to leave the folks alone? Three local people have been charged in the past few weeks so unless the whole town was fully nocturnal . . . . .
My parents were more liberal than my friends' parents, but they had a few absolute rules in the 1970s, my teen years...no phone calls made or received from friends after 9:30 pm, no going out at night until I was 16 and was out with a few close friends I wouldn't separate from...
They weren't terribly strict, but they didn't have to worry with me, I wasn't wild. I didn't like doing unsafe things. And if I was out I had to call home somehow, find a payphone or use a friend's home phone, around 10:00 pm and tell them exactly when I'd be heading home. I didn't abuse it.
At 14? Out at 2 am? My parents would've been out looking for me by 11:15, bringing the police if necessary. It just didn't happen. And at 14, it never occurred to me to ask. I was rather a dreamy loner who preferred home and a good book
The Caroline Glachan video is heart breaking. But I’m wandering if the small town she lived in was generally a safe place where everyone knew each other and where these crimes are rare?
3 in court for it early next year
These crimes are rare in every community rich or poor, transient or close knit
It seems she was a victim of ongoing violence by a group of others. Three people have been charged with her murder.
Not really. It's one of several settlements which are basically interconnected along the River Leven area between Balloch and Dumbarton, and it's quite a popular tourist route from Glasgow to Dumbarton to Loch Lomond.
There was another murder of a teenaged drug addict prostitute called Amy Anderson whose body was found in the same River Leven a few years later, but the killer was caught pretty quickly and recently died in prison, so it's not believed to be linked.
@@eccIefechan apparently 3 of her friends have been charged. One girl two boys.
Another from a missing year on RUclips. Thanks Andy.
+1
@26:00 “says he reminded her of Eddie the Eagle”. That’s an outdated reference even in 1996!
I still hear it now on new programmes.
R. I. P Jill Dando 😢🙏💔💔🤬🤬
Poor Vera. Dreadful 😥😥
Poor Vera :(
First copper is the same as one of the officers in Redcard's episode last night. Spooky.
The path Caroline walked along was pitch black and it was 12am. Was she not scared? Would she have been able to see in the dark? I’m shocked she started walking down there by herself and she wouldn’t have been able to see a lot in the dark.
Perhaps people were more confident in doing things like that back then.
I went to same school as Caroline. Can vaguely remember her. That path is somewhere you never walk at night, even back then people knew not to walk along at night.
True must have been crazy, even in daylight if its a quiet and a place where people can easily hide I would avoid plus easy place to push you in the river.
You do realise it was the people who she was hanging out with and got her killed 2 boys and a girl never these so called friends
@@ajs41 definitely not! she'd arranged to meet people there - the ones who turned to be her potential murders. Three people now charged with her murder and awaiting trial. Seems like she was victim of a campaign of teenage violence over a protracted period.
Caroline said she was going to meet her friends not roaming around on her own.
My fourteen year old would be in bed at about half 9 watching TV,not going out the door at twenty past 10
It was 1996. Things have changed since then.
The chap who bought the skip lorry on 16:06 looked like he acted on a crimewatch reconstruction in June 92 when he and and accomplice robbed a lorry with it's load.
As sad as it was to hear from my mate Marc he wad actually one of the security guards that was on site on the robbery in Frimley he's actually the person in the reconstruction on the floor with a gun to his head but in fact it wasn't a hand gun it was a double barrel shotgun that was put up to his head it mentally scared him he has one of the worst types of bipolar it's so horrible to see it in him but he can't help it he's a good mate to me helped me out alot it's so horrible that those fuckers got away and were never caught never found unfortunately but he can't work again because of that day he never got any help with what happend that day it's disgusting how they didn't offer any support as to what happend having a gun put up to your head not being shot still mentally fucks people up but I'm just glad he a bit of help at the end
Trying to hit the big time,with a place on 'The Bill' ? 😂
Great mother that one seriously why would u let your kid out at that time of night
Hi Andrew I have added a comment but it is being repeatedly deleted because RUclips think it is spam. It is about todays news aout Caroline Glachan: Three arrests over 1996 death of schoolgirl.
Why was she out and about at that time of night? I think the mum were a bit careless on that score. Sad,, sad indeed!
I agree but it's not PC to say anything , parents have to be responsible too , I know its wrong but women and girls aren't safe out on their own at night. I drive home from bf 's in the early hrs and the amount of young girls I see walking about alone , I'm scared in the car at this hour and lock all my doors.
Valerie Mc Phail Unfortunately, Misery never takes a holiday, but one is usually safer during the day, than at night. I don’t know about you, but my fear is heightened when it gets dark. Having said that, the only person at fault here is the perpetrator.
Scummy shitty Glasgow family....bet they have more kids than teeth....
Careless? Totally irresponsible and neglectful more like.
Did the attacker of women in Yorkshire get caught, sounds like levi bellfield, same modus operandi, surprising women and beating them about the head.
Hopefully all of the 1995 and 1996 editions will be uploaded 😊
They already have been, haven't they? My playlist: ruclips.net/p/PL6oCQqv2KW6XFBwE-nkjXxdh7qk80jlhC
Andrew is correct every episode (except December 10 1992 and October 11 2001) from 1984 until February 2002 are all on RUclips.
No 14 year old should be allowed to stay out till the early hours of the morning
Odd as it might sound, 14 used to be regarded as not that young at one time. For example look at this interview with Frank Zappa's 14 year old daughter Moon Unit in 1982. She looks about twice that age. ruclips.net/video/ijg2_vVyu0Q/видео.html
The Caroline Glachan case is still unsolved to this day, they had a reappeal couple years back on the 20th anniversary. Its truly baffling as to why someone would kill a 14 year old girl in such a manner in a totally motiveless crime it seems. 😔
Denzel Ndirangu Carol Seemed NiCe honeSt Girl
There is always a motive to these crimes - maybe the killer wanted to rape her but she resistedand he killed her and lost the urge to rape OR the person responsible just wanted to kill someone for kicks or thrills and Caroline just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time...
dEan Carter True, good points
they have got three people charged and the trial is after new year,. donna brand, andrew kelly and robert o'brien were from dunbarton and are a couple of years older than caroline.
@@Autisticwanderer ? is that scottish . . . . for something? :)
11:43 It's a me, Mario
20:33 "'old out yer 'and!"
I knew Ken Speakman, When i was 14 he used to let me in his house to show me his guns. 2 years later the police took me to the station to have my fingerprints taken to eliminate me from there enquiry i was 15. It was very strange how the killers business card had the same surname as me too. They later found his his name was Anthony Swindells of Broadstairs. I will never forget being a suspect for a murder. Ken was a very nice bloke and very well known in the town.
Do you have anymore uploads in the locker sir? And if so will you be uploading today/tonight?
I have December 1994 but unfortunately it's only 35 minutes long and cuts out about 10 minutes before the end. I'm not sure whether to upload it or not.
@@ajs41 Mate where I live in Kilmarnock teenagers as young as thirteen are running the streets all night long ,most of them off their heads on drink or drugs.
Nobody needs a gun.
What if you're shut in an airtight container??
I know. They are just penis substitutes for small-minded cowards.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479Oh, that happens so often!
08:39 That cast was featured on one of the final episodes of Crimewatch with Jeremy Vine and Tina Daheley.
How strange I watched this today and the trial is on for the murder of Caroline after all this time, spooky.
BBC News: BBC News Scotland: Mon 15 January 2024.
Caroline Glachan murder: Two men jailed for killing schoolgirl in 1996.
Caroline Glachan, 14, was a pupil at Our Lady and St Patrick's High School in Dumbarton
Two men have been jailed for life for murdering a schoolgirl in West Dunbartonshire more than 27 years ago.
The body of Caroline Glachan, 14, was discovered on the banks of the River Leven in Renton on 25 August 1996.
Robert O'Brien must serve at least 22 years in prison and Andrew Kelly will have to serve at least 18 years before they can apply for parole.
Donna Marie Brand, who was also found guilty of murder, was unfit to attend court and will be sentenced later.
The trio had denied murder but were convicted after a two-week trial at the High Court in Glasgow.
Judge Lord Braid described the murder as "brutal, depraved and above all wicked".
How a four-year-old boy helped solve 1996 murder
Three guilty of murdering schoolgirl 27 years ago
The jury was told that Caroline, from Bonhill, had been "infatuated" with O'Brien.
On the night of her murder, she had arranged to meet him at a bridge on the River Leven at around midnight.
She was killed in what prosecutors described as a "horrific and violent attack", suffering at least 10 blows to the head and extensive skull fractures.
The jury heard she may have been alive but was most likely unconscious when she entered the water.
Robert O'Brien, Andrew Kelly and Donna Marie Brand wee found guilty of murder after a two-week trial
Her body was later discovered by a passer-by, face down in the river.
A massive murder investigation was launched, but there was no breakthrough until the case was re-examined by Police Scotland's Major Investigation Team in 2019.
Officers re-interviewed residents of a street in Renton where O'Brien, Kelly and Brand had claimed they spent the night of the murder.
An upstairs neighbour said she had seen four people - including Kelly and his girlfriend, the late Sarah Jane O'Neill - leaving the flat before midnight.
Kelly and O'Neill had been babysitting two boys, and had been joined by O'Brien and his girlfriend Brand.
They took four-year old Archie Wilson and his baby brother Jamie along with them when they went out.
When they returned more than an hour later, the neighbour heard a commotion and an argument.
Key evidence
This discovery enabled officers to corroborate an account given by Archie the day after Caroline was attacked.
Archie had told his mother Betty that he had been at the river and that had seen fighting and Caroline falling into the water.
His evidence proved to be the key to finally convicting O'Brien, 45, and Kelly and Brand, who are both 44.
Caroline's mother Margaret McKeich welcomed the guilty verdict at the end of the trial and said her daughter could now rest in peace.
"It will not bring her back but at least we know that who was responsible is serving time for it," she said.
"Because for the past 25 years they've had their life and they've had their Christmases and their birthdays and my Caroline was in the ground."
Caroline Glachan
Image caption,
Caroline sustained extensive skull fractures in the attack
Passing sentence, Lord Braid said: "You have taken a daughter from a loving mother.
"Mrs McKeich has spoken of the pain that Caroline's death has caused, the void her death has left that will never be filled.
"She has been deprived of seeing the woman that Caroline would have become. No sentence that I pass could possibly make up for what she has lost."
He said O'Brien had been the main perpetrator of the "murderous assault", and that no-one who heard evidence of the injuries he inflicted on Caroline could fail to be sickened.
"Then having assaulted her and left her unconscious, you left her face down in the river," he said.
"While she may have died from the injuries inflicted on her, she died from drowning."
The judge said that while Kelly played a lesser role, he was also involved in inflicting "murderous violence" on the teenager.
Sorry BUT.......”W T F” is a 14.5 year old CHILD of either sex doin out ALONE , in the middle of the night ?
Tremors. 😁😁😁😁
That accent man!! Am from Glasgow, and we certainly don't sound like that!!
What sort of accent was it?
@@ajs41 its hard to say, more Edinburgh or livingston.
Haha those buggers in the jewellery shop ...giggling to nearly getting locked in, thatll teach them!
What sort of parent allows their children at fourteen years of age out until two o clock in the morning and I mean seriously no parent in their right frame of mind would ever allow a kid of that age especially a young girl out until the early hours of the morning poor parenting in my opinion if you ask me
Did anyone catch the attacker of females in South Yorkshire?
M UK
Sounds like levi bellfield
Is this the first time a female DCI was seen on crimewatch?
No the same detective was on there a a couple of months before with a murder of woman
I think the first female DCI was for an armed robbery in a pub in Leeds, c. 1991.
This guy used this stolen credit card over 82 times? You would cancel the card after losing it & especially after mysterious transactions started to occur.
Good point, Jason. We often forget how comparatively lo-tech the 1990s were.
@@AnalogSoundDigitalPicture
Yeah but I would imagine you could go to your bank and tell them you've lost your card.
Captain Hindsight Candy has spoken 🙄
Cheers lad !!!
14 years old wandering the streets regularly til the early hours..... the mother needs locking up too
Who said it was regularly?? ..and I hate to be the one to break this to you pal, but teenagers LIE! They lie to their parents all the time!
Rip Jill dando
Robert Macauley might have been only 35 in that picture but he looked more like 55.
E fits are just silly wonder if they have ever worked
has worked a few times
better than nothing and whilst they look badly weird nowadays i bet they did a lot of good at the time
There’s me thinking 40 is young to have a teenage daughter. Then I’m thinking no dummy u got a 20 year old and u 38 so maybe 40 isn’t mega young. Duh.
Nick Ross mentions they reconstructed the Margaret Wilson murder 18 months before this episode, which would make it June 1995, which is incorrect. If I remember correctly it was on the December 1995 episode 15:10
I know Mustard Mill lane I used to live 10 mins from Staines
Well done
Parenting in Scotland seems good, a 14 year old allowed out till 2am, the mcanns leaving kids in a foreign apartment, a parent letting their 7 year old girl going to fetch fish and chips on her own and being abducted for 8 hours and sexually assaulted just to name a few..
The McCanns are from Liverpool.
Alesha Mcphall.
@@domoreilly5147 Mr McCann is Scottish.
Sadly part of the legacy of post industrial britain back then. Not much had changed really since the Victorian era. Chaotic families, poverty that was like something out of Oliver twist. Added to that the collapse of traditional industries that led to a lot of communities losing any remaining hope. Drugs and antisocial behaviour became even more of a regular undercurrent. Scotland sadly still has the highest rate of drugs deaths in Europe.
@@zeddeka the mother seemed more concerned with going out with her fiancé than the fact her 14 year old CHILD was going out into the early hours, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with drugs. This seemed to be a regular occurrence. Wonder how long she'd walked the streets at night like that? 13 ,12 ,10? Her only child aswell. Very shameful.
20:33 What's Mike Brewer doing committing an armed robbery???
15.05❤
I bumped into the same 'Irish Problem' in that small town,by someone of the same surname, that ended up with a Police officer from Police Scotland, with Irish origins being sacked...beginning to see the bigger picture here...looking after their own?
Do you know anything about the troubles in NI? Do you know how the police treated Catholics? 'Looking after their own' indeed, ha!! It seems you don't have an 'Irish problem' so much as a Racist Problem!
@@jangles8061 There was never anything stopping them going south, suppose,in a nation surrounded by water,only they could have a famine, because Sir Francis Drake had brought them back some spuds to plant? Might want to check all the surnames doing the drugs,arson,murders...yeah,"Irish problem"??
Cases ire card
Any crimewatch solved or unsolvec
The Caroline case is another example of hopeless policing at the time. The case was simple, yet it took 27 years to solve.
Poor Jill Dando.
ANDY J.S CAN QE HAVE A NEW UPLOAD OF CRIMEWATCH UK MATE
As soon as I have any more I'll upload them.
First time a CWUK email address available?
I think so. About 2 years after my family started using email.
@@ajs41 I didn't have a PC (& email) until around 1999! Old dial-up seems like a million years ago, & like yesterday all at the same time 😂
@@AACE73 I know what you mean! My dad only got one so early because he worked part time at a university in Birmingham, and they started using email a lot earlier than everyone else.
@@ajs41 Aaaah! I got the computer for my son, he was in infant school & they had started using them in lessons. Funny thing is, I have a MacBook now, yet use my mobile for pretty much everything! 🥴
24.07 gotta be Ray Betson
I thought his accomplice was Mike Brewer (from Wheeler Dealers ("'old out yer 'and!"))
The one who appears @ 20:30, in case you're not sure who I mean. :)
I like to catch up with the outcome of all these but can't find a thing about most of them. Apparently due to an EU law of anonymity for life ?? Ridiculous
Privacy laws are especially strong in Germany and Spain I think.
So much for Brexit aye?
@@ajs41
Yes but these are UK crimes.
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 I was responding to the original comment which mentioned EU law.
Jill Can do was also herself murdered, how ironic that she once presented Crime watch.. I'm being targeted also. July 1939, to June/July /December 1987 - October 2018.
me too
😔😔😔
Where do you go to eat at 10.20 pm?
indian restaurants used to be later - catch the drinkers with the munchies but yeah most pubs and restaurants were 9 or 9.30 for last food orders.
Oh wow those professional robbers...I friggin hope they got away bcuz they're totally awesome and didn't even hurt anyone
U fucking kidding me my mate was the security guard in the reconstruction in the robbey in Frimley it mentally fucked him up it wasn't a hand gun like they said they had double barrel shotguns with live amo having a gun point up to your head not being shot at still fucks up I pray someone does it to you one day so then you'll know what it's like u prick
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
In the fall of 2021
Three suspects were arrested in the death of Caroline Glachan.
Two men and a woman.
The suspects are now 42, 42 and 43.
They would have been 17-18 when 14 year old Caroline was murdered.
Is there any context to this?
The trial is set for this November coming.
So It wasn't the man in the hood or the dog walker.
@@06hurdwp A jealous girlfriend and 2 males who were 17,18 and 17, I think. Now in their 40's
@@clioflano421 No. It was her older BF, his GF and another male who are now accused and will go to trial soon.
Jill Can do was also herself murdered, how ironic that she once presented Crime watch.. I'm being targeted also. July 1939, to June/July /December 1987 - October 2018.
Jill Can do was also herself murdered, how ironic that she once presented Crime watch.. I'm being targeted also. July 1939, to June/July /December 1987 - October 2018.
Hello are you stilll around.. How are you being targeted ?
If you're still around, _WHY_ are you being targeted?
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 stalked/hunted - newspapers trying to create stories. it didn't begin with the leveson enquiry. private dectective daniel morgan was killed because he was going to expose it. paid stalkers, access to DVLA records, driving licences, criminal records, bank accounts, phone taps all to set up newsworthy reactions from their target. look what they did to sheila bamber and that family. she was convinced that she was being followed and her phone tapped but they convinced her it was mental illness. jaqui hames was a victim. (strangely it all begins with the american crime spree called the zodiac killer who sent ciphers to the newspapers - hence the word Crimewatch in the start sequence of the show is a wavy shape and one method of solving ciphers is the 'billowy wave'. note that the new start sequence began at the same time as jill dando joined the show.
@@trishg151A funny farm inmate on day release?
"Can do????"