Crimewatch is like Robert Stacks Unsolved Mysteries from Amercia in so many ways the cases and crimes are very similar and Crimewatch UK and Unsolved Mysteries where both big at the same time in late 1980's early 90's
@@1977Futre Yeah you might not realise that googling non-fatal robberies from almost 40 years ago before most information was digitalised might be quite difficult. Not everyone can afford a £15 a month payment to access old newspaper archives either.
Redcard74 bravo to you I love watching these old crimewatch videos thanks for all the uploads I think I have seen every single one now you haven't got anymore to upload have you 😁
The Pizza Pomodoro looks like a really cool place, actually. (In the John Gaspar case.) Man, that Worcester China is beautiful. I love that part of this show. Thanks for this, finally got to subscribe. :)
It's hard to describe. In many ways, it was a fairly grim time. But people led much, much more sheltered lives than they did now in many ways, so it was easy to live your life without having any awareness whatsoever about some of the things that happened. One of the issues back then was that there was so much more cash in the system. People got paid in cash and tended to shop in cash, so it was a huge target for armed robbers. Nowadays they'd be wasting their time as people get paid electronically and pay mainly by card so there just aren't the opportunities. Also, people back then tended to drink much more alcohol than they do now and that was a big source of violent crime. It must also be remembered that the kind of crimes reported on here were and still are very, very rare.
Absolutely. Many of the elderly back then hadn't grown up with banks - they had been for "posh" people in their day. My great grandmother used to keep her money under the carpet or in the washing machine (!)
It used to be 99% safe to leave doors open - especially during the day. People much poorer didn't rob people. I grew up like that. It just didn't happen.
unsolved! they susqect it was because of gambling debts. at the beginning they said they thought it was someone who knew him - so the key could have been 'borrowed' from his coat qocket at the restaurant or from out of his locker at the gym-like-qlace he went to every other day.
Blair was very impressive compared to his colleagues who more often or not seem to falter under the glare of the cameras and the gravitas of the show. No wonder he went straight to the top.
John I Had A Funny Feeling That Was The Same Ian Blair That Became The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis Head of London's Metropolitan Police Service It Didn't Click John The First Time I Watched Crimewatch January 1987 But When I Watched It Tonight Again It Clicked Straight Away
Did I read CP is out of prison now? I find that staggering if true given he raped and murdered two young girls. In his case life should have meant life for damn sure.
ToteScrote He was up for parole earlier this year but was denied. It will be reviewed again within the next 2 years. He’s currently in an open prison rather than a maximum security. 🙄
Kirsty Moore I’m a geek and I wade through all the stuff on the internet, it’s there but doesn’t always come up at the top of search results. Always been interested in crime and the process of catching criminals. Just call me Miss Holmes. 🕵🏻♀️
@@zeddeka wow, that's interesting to know, as I googled his case, and not a lot of information came up about him, so he wasn't as squeeky clean as crimewatch made him out to be.....
Yes, but that particular victim is named as a JAMES GASPA, whereas the victim in Crimewatch was a JOHN GASPA, I'm wondering if they were 2 separate people, or there was a spelling mistake made?.....🤔🤔🤔
It doesn't make much sense unless it was a case of mistaken identity. A planned murder like that doesn't happen by random. It wasn't a robbery gone wrong. Did he fall out with a business associate?
Noelle Gunning I’d have thought it was something like they had discreetly got ahold of the key (while his car was being serviced, while he was busy in the restaurant, while he was out playing golf or something) then with the key, nip out, get a spare cut and return it. Thereby The victim would be unaware that one layer of his security has been breached.
Obviously the murderer was pretty close to the victim . He or she sent a close confidant to get the key and the original was returned pretty darn quick . Definitely not a random or stranger murder. Which only leaves business or person . I'd hedge on business. So therefore the murder could ot risk being identified going to the locksmiths and sent a couple of stooges . It's right there that simple. Amazed plod never solved this . Fellow Mason perhaps ?
@@ajs41It was light because the abductor didn't actually do anything. He didn't even take the kid against his will. He convinced the boy to follow him back to his home, let him sleep in a separate room, gave him breakfast in the morning & the kid left. It wasn't your typical pedo abuse case. Don't know what his motive was but there was no physical harm nor abusive perpetrated.
It appears that Lytton Hamilton from photo call was found not guilty of murder in 1988. In 1998 a man named Lytton Hamilton was murdered in Tottenham. Wonder if they are one and the same.
John Gaspa murder has no internet presence, presumably unsolved. It seems it was so easy to get away with serious crime in those days and before, due to lack of CCTV and limited forensic science.
It's true that the John Gaspa case remains unsolved and, as Helen C. has hinted, a hitman could've been responsible. But there's a sting in the tail/tale here... news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1694858.stm
Lytton hamilton was murdered in 1999 after breaking into a house of a couple that hed committed multiple crimes on. Not sure why he was out of prison only 12 years after being comitting a murder but there you go.
smck 2016 I think he was lonely maybe because he said call me dad obviously not in a sexual way he obviously had mental health and maybe wanted a friend, it was still wrong though and i hope he didn’t do it again it could of been do different at least it’s a happy ending
He left him in his flat to get muscle relaxers and his mates. The boys fate would have been sealed had the man come back before the boy left. Call me dad indeed...
@@noongourfain doubt that very much. That is abduction and not normal behaviour of an adult to take a child that they do not know home (at some distance too) and then go to work...I suppose next he'll enrole the boy in the local school then go part time so they can spend more time together ❤. Nope. That was not his plan at all.
The puppies being taken briefly reminded me of 101 Dalmatians (pre-spotted) in the most British way. ❤️🍿🇬🇧😩”The puppizzz!!! Someone’s taken the puppizzz!!! “
Not the most gripping edition. More antique and painting thefts and fewer murders. It’s the reconstructions of the murders that make this show, they’re so dramatic. It’s almost as if the murderers were on a break!
Yeah, I always skip over the bank/jewellery shop/Securicar robberies. They are boring, and not so interesting and unpersonal. Much better when they feature someone's real life.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 the old people of that generation hadn't grown up with banks - they had been for "posh" people and many in the old days used to charge customers for holding an account. So many people of that age had grown up leading fairly hand to mouth lives and pretty much all payments were made in cash. So banks didn't really feature much in their lives.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 many of the old people of that generation hadn't grown up with banks - they had been for "posh" people and many in the old days used to charge customers for holding an account. So many people of that age had grown up leading fairly hand to mouth lives and pretty much all payments were made in cash. So banks didn't really feature much in their lives, and a lot of working class people of that era were a bit intimidated by them.
@@zeddeka My parents weren't wealthy, but always kept savings in the bank, even in the 1950s. I can accept that before then, the previous generation probably didn't earn enough to bother with a bank, cos they got paid in cash and paid their bills straight away. However, there is an element to keeping cash at home so they don't have to declare it to Housing Benefits or have their welfare payments deducted. If you have too many savings, you lose some benefits.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 It's probably best summed up by Hillda and Stan Ogden in Coronation Street. There was a storyline in the mid 80s when Hilda got a bank account for the first time and it was a huge deal for her. Very typical of so many people of that generation back then. If they ever had any small savings, it often went into those old fashioned 'insurance' policies that were sold and managed by local agents for Prudential etc. My great grandmother never had a bank account in her life - when I remember her from the early 80s, she used to keep her money under the carpet or in the washing machine. Her children, my grandparents generation, were similar, but they had building society accounts with passbooks, and the money they paid to 'the insurance woman'.
Redcard74 you are really making my evenings so enjoyable with your crimewatch uploads 😊 I’ve been having nightmares and not sleeping well 😔
I wish he would turn up again with some new episodes.
Thanks for posting this Redcard74. Future Met Police Commissioner Ian Blair (now Lord Blair) investigating the John Gaspa murder!
John Cook he didn’t solve the murder though 😩
@@09weenic as nick ross ses do have nightmare and don't sleep well
These shows are addictive! A true treat for true crime buffs like myself, big thank you for sharing. 😊✌
Crimewatch is like Robert Stacks Unsolved Mysteries from Amercia in so many ways the cases and crimes are very similar and Crimewatch UK and Unsolved Mysteries where both big at the same time in late 1980's early 90's
Made my self a cupa and sitting relaxing watching this classic era of the show thanks .
@@vicci7232 remember that photo lol i did mean what you thought lol hahahaha
What I love about this episode is the use of the Grandstand studio and Nicks hair.....
Strong Coffee Lol It’s parted so far to one side! But Nick is pretty cool even with the hair. :)
Thank you redcard 74 in you're time in downloads in the crimewatch uk episodes past and present
Attacking elderly people is the lowest of the low. 😡 I really hope they were caught.
Google it.
@@1977Futre Yeah you might not realise that googling non-fatal robberies from almost 40 years ago before most information was digitalised might be quite difficult. Not everyone can afford a £15 a month payment to access old newspaper archives either.
No they were never identified.
5.1 Litres of petrol for £2. Those were the days.
Thanks again Redcard74. I was hoping for another upload today and you didn't disappoint. :)
£2 in 1987 the equivalent of £6 in 2021 money. So actually quite pricey.
Redcard74 bravo to you I love watching these old crimewatch videos thanks for all the uploads I think I have seen every single one now you haven't got anymore to upload have you 😁
Happy Thursday fellow crime lovers! Got to finish the washing up, put the bins out and then I can enjoy this! 🕵🏻♀️
You’re like me, can’t rest and enjoy until the chores are out of the way. Sleep well and don’t have nightmares lol
You need a dish washer Helen!
The Pizza Pomodoro looks like a really cool place, actually. (In the John Gaspar case.) Man, that Worcester China is beautiful. I love that part of this show. Thanks for this, finally got to subscribe. :)
Smoking.....
Thanks again!
Evening everyone it's that time once again when everyone is tuning into RedCard UK :)
Thanks for the uploads Redcard!
Whilst I'm job hunting I'm watching these to pass the time, better than tv
Don't kid on your looking for jobs hehehe
Did you get a job Allison? I know it’s a bit late
Damn robbing old ladies' savings is pretty heartless!!
Now it's online
Thank you Redcard74. You've got a new subscriber.
Imagine leaving a camera with photos of yourself at a crimescene.... Criminals that dumb deserve to be caught.
So anyone else think the 80s seems like a terrifying time to be alive? Anyone could do anything and get away with it.
Yeah lack of CCTV, no smartphones, no internet, forensics not as advanced as today meant criminals got away with a lot
especially terrifying when you google the cases and find out how many murders remain unsolved or not solved until the mid 2000s
I was only a 6-7 year old in 1987 but I guess people didn’t really know any different
💯 right
It's hard to describe. In many ways, it was a fairly grim time. But people led much, much more sheltered lives than they did now in many ways, so it was easy to live your life without having any awareness whatsoever about some of the things that happened. One of the issues back then was that there was so much more cash in the system. People got paid in cash and tended to shop in cash, so it was a huge target for armed robbers. Nowadays they'd be wasting their time as people get paid electronically and pay mainly by card so there just aren't the opportunities. Also, people back then tended to drink much more alcohol than they do now and that was a big source of violent crime. It must also be remembered that the kind of crimes reported on here were and still are very, very rare.
The stolen Brussels tapestry was recovered in New York in 1993
Even in the 80’s many elderly people kept cash in the house and never locked their doors.
Absolutely. Many of the elderly back then hadn't grown up with banks - they had been for "posh" people in their day. My great grandmother used to keep her money under the carpet or in the washing machine (!)
It used to be 99% safe to leave doors open - especially during the day. People much poorer didn't rob people. I grew up like that. It just didn't happen.
Cortina, Avenger, Princess. Brilliant old classics.
The key John used for his flat door was different to the cut one so was the cut one to the actual building?
Lytton Hamilton on photocall was acquitted of murder
Great casting on the gasper actor
That grandstand studio completely done me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
The cctv of the robbery in the jewellers at 16.00. Great footage considering this was from 1986..
Thanks class again
Two years..."A discouragement to others" Whatever.
Must be horrible going up the stairs to your home not knowing someone's waiting in the dark to kill you. Very scary.
It's not horrible if you don't know.
@@jackbrown4120 yea that’s just going upstairs 😆
I'd rather not know
How did someone get John Gaspas key to have it cut?
unsolved! they susqect it was because of gambling debts. at the beginning they said they thought it was someone who knew him - so the key could have been 'borrowed' from his coat qocket at the restaurant or from out of his locker at the gym-like-qlace he went to every other day.
What would £2 worth of petrol cost you in July 2022 (30:15) 😞😵😮😨🙈🙉
Frank o Reilly on photocall. Nicked 14 years later in Liverpool. Was only sent down for 4 years for Manslaughter
Ridiculous
@@ginaryan2093 I agree. Pathetic sentence.
Blair was very impressive compared to his colleagues who more often or not seem to falter under the glare of the cameras and the gravitas of the show. No wonder he went straight to the top.
He was an Oxford graduate.
I agree. Just noticing his demeanour it’s obvious why he eventually rose to such a lofty position within the force
John I Had A Funny Feeling That Was The Same Ian Blair That Became The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis Head of London's Metropolitan Police Service It Didn't Click John The First Time I Watched Crimewatch January 1987 But When I Watched It Tonight Again It Clicked Straight Away
Blair is a politician. He screwed the Gaspar case up. It should be reopened.
The first case the murder has not been solved it seems.
Nick asked "What else have you got to go on?"
That question just begged for an answer from Bernard Manning!
Ian blair went to the top in the met but never solved this case
Probably still bugs him. Maybe it will be revisited.
Penny for the guy proper old school
use to do that never see anyone now doing it
It took a lot of time to finally catch Colin Pitchfork, the first major DNA case...
Did I read CP is out of prison now? I find that staggering if true given he raped and murdered two young girls. In his case life should have meant life for damn sure.
ToteScrote He was up for parole earlier this year but was denied. It will be reviewed again within the next 2 years. He’s currently in an open prison rather than a maximum security. 🙄
@@helencompton3320 how do you find all this info. Ive seen a few of your comments. Im intrigued. I cant find the info you can 🤔
Kirsty Moore I’m a geek and I wade through all the stuff on the internet, it’s there but doesn’t always come up at the top of search results. Always been interested in crime and the process of catching criminals. Just call me Miss Holmes. 🕵🏻♀️
@@kirstm.2215 trouble is he still out walking about places
Do you have anymore crimewatch uk to upload. Have you any from the 90s?
Excellent, hope they keep on coming!!
The John Gaspa case was very mysterious.
@@zeddeka How did they get access to his house key, and were the couple in the shop involved?
@@zeddeka wow, that's interesting to know, as I googled his case, and not a lot of information came up about him, so he wasn't as squeeky clean as crimewatch made him out to be.....
@@zeddeka okay, I'll take a look, thanks
Yes, but that particular victim is named as a JAMES GASPA, whereas the victim in Crimewatch was a JOHN GASPA, I'm wondering if they were 2 separate people, or there was a spelling mistake made?.....🤔🤔🤔
It doesn't make much sense unless it was a case of mistaken identity. A planned murder like that doesn't happen by random. It wasn't a robbery gone wrong. Did he fall out with a business associate?
I would love to know how the key was obtained? Why get another one cut when they already had one? Strange
Noelle Gunning I’d have thought it was something like they had discreetly got ahold of the key (while his car was being serviced, while he was busy in the restaurant, while he was out playing golf or something) then with the key, nip out, get a spare cut and return it. Thereby The victim would be unaware that one layer of his security has been breached.
Obviously the murderer was pretty close to the victim . He or she sent a close confidant to get the key and the original was returned pretty darn quick . Definitely not a random or stranger murder. Which only leaves business or person . I'd hedge on business. So therefore the murder could ot risk being identified going to the locksmiths and sent a couple of stooges . It's right there that simple. Amazed plod never solved this . Fellow Mason perhaps ?
@@johnniethepom2905 gambling debts perhaps?? I’ve heard that mentioned as a motive a few times.
@@mrkipling2201Where?
@@IanP1963 I'm sure I saw a couple of articles online that mentioned it. Also drugs were something to do with it I believe??
2 years for child abduction????? That judge should have been disbarred immediately after that sentence.
Look at what they get now
12 months probation to 6 years serve 3 with a good barrister.
RedCard74 you are a,legend thank you again Xxxxxxx
16:58 wow that’s some expensive tat
I wonder if that man who kidnapped the boy and got 2 years ever offended again? (Or at least got caught)
Seems like a light sentence for the crime.
@@ajs41It was light because the abductor didn't actually do anything. He didn't even take the kid against his will. He convinced the boy to follow him back to his home, let him sleep in a separate room, gave him breakfast in the morning & the kid left. It wasn't your typical pedo abuse case. Don't know what his motive was but there was no physical harm nor abusive perpetrated.
@@NoirFan84yes but so weird! He did suggest he called him "Steve or dad" 😦 I think he would have kept him had he not got away.
Out of all crimes, I thing crimes against the elderly are the worst.
And children & animals 💔😢
04:20 - 04:25 wow that actor is a total double of the unfortunate victim.
Ian Blair I’m sure he became a met big cheese later on
TransistorMan1 yep! Met police commissioner. Now Lord Blair.
Good spot.
___ Arch thank you sir
Do any children collect money for the guy anywhere these days?
Nah it went the way of the 🦤
There was a James Gaspa murdered in 2001 in horrific circumstances. Anyone know if any link?
J C don’t think so
Dawn Ashworth...that Pitchfork monster. Thankfully back in jail now. Should never have got out!
Soho Restaurant??? Maybe John Gaspar was killed by someone running a protection racket.
It appears that Lytton Hamilton from photo call was found not guilty of murder in 1988. In 1998 a man named Lytton Hamilton was murdered in Tottenham. Wonder if they are one and the same.
Yeah same guy
Wonder what ever happened to those little paintings.
I liked them
John Gaspa murder has no internet presence, presumably unsolved. It seems it was so easy to get away with serious crime in those days and before, due to lack of CCTV and limited forensic science.
swiftlydoesit A high percentage of these early crimewatch murders are unsolved to this day
According to sources he was murdered by a hitman due to gambling debts? 🤷🏻♀️
Helen Compton Good detective work! 🕵🏻♀️ So sad that people put a price on a persons life.
That's pretty much it.
It's true that the John Gaspa case remains unsolved and, as Helen C. has hinted, a hitman could've been responsible. But there's a sting in the tail/tale here...
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1694858.stm
Future Conmissioner of Metropolitan Police Ian Blair on here with the John Gaspa murder
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Lytton hamilton was murdered in 1999 after breaking into a house of a couple that hed committed multiple crimes on. Not sure why he was out of prison only 12 years after being comitting a murder but there you go.
I wonder what the motive was for that man abducting that little boy on the bike if not sexual.
smck 2016 I think he was lonely maybe because he said call me dad obviously not in a sexual way he obviously had mental health and maybe wanted a friend, it was still wrong though and i hope he didn’t do it again it could of been do different at least it’s a happy ending
He left him in his flat to get muscle relaxers and his mates. The boys fate would have been sealed had the man come back before the boy left. Call me dad indeed...
Sugar Plum exactly - do we know the name of the abductor?
@@givemeabreak100 or maybe just went to work...who knows?
@@noongourfain doubt that very much. That is abduction and not normal behaviour of an adult to take a child that they do not know home (at some distance too) and then go to work...I suppose next he'll enrole the boy in the local school then go part time so they can spend more time together ❤. Nope. That was not his plan at all.
The puppies being taken briefly reminded me of 101 Dalmatians (pre-spotted) in the most British way. ❤️🍿🇬🇧😩”The puppizzz!!! Someone’s taken the puppizzz!!! “
I love redcar
£2 for petrol! Blimey those were the days..
John Gaspa case clearly someone he knew like a worker or those doing business with him
The main suspect in Gaspa’s murder was himself beaten and dismembered just before he was going to be extradited from Spain in 2001
£2 of petrol would not even get you out of the garage now
😂 what are you driving? A Boeing 747? 😂
A Tesla @@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts
Crimestand? Grandwatch?
Not the most gripping edition. More antique and painting thefts and fewer murders. It’s the reconstructions of the murders that make this show, they’re so dramatic. It’s almost as if the murderers were on a break!
Yeah, I always skip over the bank/jewellery shop/Securicar robberies. They are boring, and not so interesting and unpersonal. Much better when they feature someone's real life.
The bank robberies make this program
@@Thenorthsace Programme.
let's see how many Building Societies got robbed this month!
Is this THE Ian Blair who became the Met’s top cop?
The very same.
Penny for the guy you never see that anymore ,or fireworks for that matter
Corby police station, had a few nights in there !
So which crimewatch episode are you in ?
Now boarded up and closed waiting to be sold. It was reopened up temporarily for a few months to a homeless charity.
"Old folks don't keep your savings in the house put it in the bank where it's nice and safe"...ye right good one
Sometimes they don't want to declare bank accounts, cos they lose benefits, so keeping cash at home is not traceable.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 the old people of that generation hadn't grown up with banks - they had been for "posh" people and many in the old days used to charge customers for holding an account. So many people of that age had grown up leading fairly hand to mouth lives and pretty much all payments were made in cash. So banks didn't really feature much in their lives.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 many of the old people of that generation hadn't grown up with banks - they had been for "posh" people and many in the old days used to charge customers for holding an account. So many people of that age had grown up leading fairly hand to mouth lives and pretty much all payments were made in cash. So banks didn't really feature much in their lives, and a lot of working class people of that era were a bit intimidated by them.
@@zeddeka My parents weren't wealthy, but always kept savings in the bank, even in the 1950s. I can accept that before then, the previous generation probably didn't earn enough to bother with a bank, cos they got paid in cash and paid their bills straight away. However, there is an element to keeping cash at home so they don't have to declare it to Housing Benefits or have their welfare payments deducted. If you have too many savings, you lose some benefits.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 It's probably best summed up by Hillda and Stan Ogden in Coronation Street. There was a storyline in the mid 80s when Hilda got a bank account for the first time and it was a huge deal for her. Very typical of so many people of that generation back then. If they ever had any small savings, it often went into those old fashioned 'insurance' policies that were sold and managed by local agents for Prudential etc. My great grandmother never had a bank account in her life - when I remember her from the early 80s, she used to keep her money under the carpet or in the washing machine. Her children, my grandparents generation, were similar, but they had building society accounts with passbooks, and the money they paid to 'the insurance woman'.
Around 18 minutes... Del Boys at the market 🤣
My nightly dose before bed Thank you
Crime now as moved online with so many people being scammed and robbed that way ..
Colin Pitchfork
Dudesout now girl still dead
Lol @ Grandstand
33:18, these hoodlums terrorized the sweet old lady!
She should of had CCTV
@@RUclipsForever2025 she probably couldn't afford it!
My night time fix
The key cutter inadvertently signed the poor man's death warrant
Bin long since I've done robberies an kidnaps.
Same mate
She does all kinds of stuff to her hair and still ends up looking good 😮😮
DONT HAVE NIGHTMARES SLEEP WELL! AFTER SEEING THEM PHOTO FITS THAT LOOK NOWT LIKE THEM !
Apparently they make them look that way instead of realistic because they would look too generic
Helen Phelps is absolutely Stunning . ❤️
Did the petrol station men ever get caught?
Buy £2 worth of petrol? Was it worth it, even when petrol was a bit cheaper in those days.
I wonder if Sue still has that beautiful black ring!
Na it's pink now.....
Jumbo Whiffy 😂😂😂
it was what kept her safe by magic
"just remember..'scouse' could come from Newcastle"
2:33 Putin?
48...elderly??
They never had an XR4I surely
THIS WAS THE YEAR ROBOCOP WAS MADE!!!!
*I'd Buy that for a Dollar*
I wonder who the polaroid girl was, she was pretty
I wasnt even a year old 11 05 86
Why does Helen always feel the need to remind us she's from Kent?
She’s a real Kent girl
She mentions it like once mate what are you chatting on about
He Likely disturbed a robber?
Lollie pop man. Thats is 80s
Most lollipop people still existed until recently. The tories cut them
@@misplacedkiwi9498 still is lollipop people actually
There's always one!
Looks like it was Linda’s husband..