Let's Talk About The Real Pros And Cons Of Prenups
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2018
- According to Dr. Tiffanie Davis Henry, you might want to at least have the conversation before tying the knot.
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"The person you marry is not the person you divorce"... so true.
Lizzie Ann yes I thought that was smart. It’s what I thought about when the first lady was saying that if she marries you she trusts you to be fair.
Big Facts
I think 2 of them would date the average joe. The white lady would not.
Daniel Parker Even if she wouldn’t date the average joe, it doesn’t mean she knows how he would behave in a divorce. The only way to actually know is to witness him in a divorce. How tf can you objectively determine how someone will be 10,15,20 years down the line? Even if they have certain values or a certain etiquette now- is it a foregone conclusion that they will never change? No.
Facts
No prenup is like saying you won't buy car insurance because that's planning for an accident. 🤦♂️
If you don't sign one then you absolutely cannot complain when you get a divorce and lose everything. Doesn't matter how much you're in love. Humans aren't perfect and marriages end for multiple reasons.
Zariaeda 007 yesssssss
Zariaeda 007 then you don’t know what marriage is and need to stop playing in grown folks field...... marriage is combining 2 lives into one. In ALL aspects...... so if you get married this whole “her money, my money” does not exist. Because it’s all BOTH of your money......
Lone Star 89 well you would be a broke m’fer for betting on that then..... we can split it down the middle and go our separate ways. My husband and I both have careers and both pay for our things together.....so at the end of the day, what is fair is to spit 50/50.... IF we divorce which we aren’t. You sound like a bitter person that wouldn’t have money to begin with.... or a mate 😅
Zariaeda 007 women don't lose everything in divorce so there's no real benefit to them signing one.
This is factz
I think prenup allows you to have a conversation about the important things in a marriage. It also allows you to consider situations you could get into and how you would resolve them, and also address individual expectations.
Signing a preup is insurance. We insure our houses cars etc. The person you marry may not be the person you divorce. It doesn’t mean I don’t trust you it means we’re going to insure our assets just in case we don’t work out cause you never know! People switch up on you all the damn time!
CeCe Nicole I feel like people don’t marriage seriously. They should stay single.
If you are wary of your significant other switching up, why marry them in the first place? That doesn't make any sense.
“A prenup is insurance”. I like that!!! Many of us are confident in our driving skills, many of us are confident in our health lifestyles. However, as much as I trust other drivers on the road and as much as I trust my eating and exercise habits I need proper coverage and insurance just in case things go south. People change and evolve and our evolutions can go in different paths even if it’s positively. A lot of you folks with all this fairy tale sentimental way of thinking will do you no justice if unfortunate events occur.
Y v even the person you love to the fullest you can not guarantee will stay with you forever. Humans aren’t perfect that’s just how it is and love is made by humans so you need insurance for it just in case because you never know even if you think you do.
Hmm..
You think getting divorced is expensive? Not signing a prenup is tenfold that.
"When it comes to prenups, I'm old school"
I think this line says a lot about her, so she is a modern strong independent woman till it comes to stealing men's money.
What if she had more money? Lol
Ever notice how it's only women who hate prenups?
@@SuckerPunch92 If she had more money, she'd be the one wanting the pre-nup. 💰
@@crucisnh that’s not always true.
Seems to me that if the fiance won't sign a pre-nup, that's a massive red flag that indicates that you should walk, no, run away as fast as you can. No pre-nup, no marriage.
So wait the white lady refuses to marry a guy of a lower financial status but then also wants no pre-nup. Kanye what's the word I'm looking for?
Ms Lolah now he ain’t saying she a gold digger...
💀💀💀💀💀
Like he said GOLD DIGGGGGER. If you missed the point. Then take it up with the special school district you attended.
sheeeeee takeee my moneyyy ……. when im in neeeeeed, ohhhhhh she a gold digger , friend in deed hehehehehehe
She has her own money fooool...she wants a man as or more successful then her. BROKE men
“A prenup is insurance”!!! Many of us are confident in our driving skills, many of us are confident in our health lifestyles. However, as much as I trust other drivers on the road and as much as I trust my eating and exercise habits I need proper coverage and insurance just in case things go south. People change and evolve and our evolutions can go in different paths even if it’s positively. A lot of you folks with all this fairy tale sentimental way of thinking will do you no justice if unfortunate events occur. Paul McCartney, Michael Jordan, Gabrielle Union (yeah even wealthy women too). You must be crazy if you think I’m not signing a prenup if I obtained a substantial amount of wealth and decided to get married. ESPECIALLY IF I MET YOU AFTER MY SUCCESS!!!
Tbh what’s the point of getting married now a days
Marriage has no benefit
a lot of women want to marry is because they think "my husband big financial capital,house is now half mine"
Being accountable for someone & your family is the ultimate benefit. People have no morals, ethics, discipline, &/or religion. They rather sleep with anyone, have kids, & demotes the value of family. No accountability
there is no point bro
in germany you have to pay less taxes
That "oldschool" woman in red there is the devil in the flesh.
I Loved how she went " I am elevated above you. If I am trusting you and stepping down to marry you, i want 50% of your stuff"
And I saw that in court during my first divorce...
Yeah she marrieda beta
I guess if she's the richest in the relationship, she would ask her partner to sign one.
I don't agree with her either but whew what a thread of haters
Steve, was married three times. Had he had money back then, he would be worth maybe 5M now. Tops. Alimony, plus dividing assets, plus salary stipend plus child support is just for one woman. He was married three times. He would be close to broke and if he ever left tv before 70, he would be broke. Ask Rick Flair why he’s broke. Married 5 times.
Wooo
3 times and still did not learned the lesson and advising men to not sign prenups. Gtfo
And he still didn't learn a thing
“I refuse to sign a prenupt” is code for “I’m a gold digger who is going to take your money if things go south”. The white woman claims marriage is about trusting your partner to be fair if things go south but a prenupt does just that! If the two of you are tasked with the objective of arranging an agreement before marriage, that gives you the opportunity to witness first hand what his/her perception of fairness really is. My honest opinion is if you can’t negotiate a prenupt with your partner then the two of you are not really equipped to be married to each other. And I’d bet that most people who are opposed to prenupts are broke and wouldn’t be the ones to lose anything in a divorce- which is exactly why they don’t want one. 🤦🏾♀️
Notice she said "no matter what happens" she wants to cheat and hold him hostage
It is so true. The person you marry is not the person you divorce. There are so many things that can go wrong... more so, if you are not the same person you were in your 20s, why would you expect your mate to be the same 30 years later? We all change. Whether we want to admit or not, the prenup secured certain things. When someone has been unfaithful to you for whatever reason, the last thing on your mind is to be is reasonable...you want to get even. At that point "I'm sorry" is like dirty water. Useless...
Nonsense and idealistic....
Anyone who's bringing a considerable amount of financial assets to a marriage , would be a fool not to have a prenup .
Ideally , you wouldn't need one and you could trust your partner to be fair if your marriage doesn't last .
Realistically , most marriages don't end as lovingly as they begin .
But to each its own......
THIS! why can't people see the realistic side of things. Nobody WANTS it to go bad. It's like having an insurance..
@ nicole, you are right. Because the person who doesn't have the money, you dont really know thier intentions. Its unfortunate but hey you got to do what u got to do!
If you divorce, you take your stuff and he takes his. Anything you got together should be divided equally.
Hell no. If I make 500K and my wife makes 100K. I am not losing 200K a year. So she can make 300K for no reason
HELL NO!!
Ah hell no!
NOPE.
HA
I dated all the man i dated them all i dated all but i married my husband in the end .
Your husband must be proud
she found a beta sucker
Her husband is an idiot. She swear she is the hottest thing out there. She is a wannabe singer on American idol that is not famous. The man she married must be ugly asf
Damn man that's shocking to hear that 🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also imagine if a man said that about most women, what she said about most men. Sexism only gets noticed when it’s against women.
At first I didnt believe in prenup, but then I realize if i was rich and my fiancee was not, I wouldnt want him taking half of my money and I dont get anything. I believe in prenups now.
Same I want one of me and my bf marry. I don’t trust men at all. I think it’s just to protect me and my kids. And to make sure he doesn’t try and take my stuff. Or my money to support him and his new biatch. It has happened to me before and I was left with nothing. So now I’m cautious
@@nessamyers1621 maybe you should break up with the poor guy?
@@nessamyers1621 I feel bad for him
@@nessamyers1621 lol u need to stay single and heal that trauma, yall not gonna last if you have that mindset. Wrong reason to have a prenup
@@mikefun7482 say that to the 1000s of people who lost everything to marriage, don't be naive people change like the tides.
Prenups really depends on the relationship. I personally don’t see anything wrong with it especially if you have build yourself up financially prior to getting married. I feel like any money you and your spouse made separately before getting married shouldn’t be touched if the marriage doesn’t work out.
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What about kids. I think if a divorce happens that kids should be split up equally. The kids need their father just as much as they need their mother. Prenups are just as much about kids as they are about finances.
Wonder why Marjorie always smiling so hard... NO PRENUP!!! She need to write a book!! #mvp 😩😂
Oh yess. She wants it, now 😅
Here in the Netherlands we have a law that everyone that marries now signs a prenup, because it costed a lot of problems in the past when people didn't sign a prenup. Not signing a prenup is very, very old school. Even members of my church gave me the advise to sign a prenup in 2012 when i married. And i'm so glad we did. A few years later you can always give your husband or wife half of what you own. Then you know each other better and see if he or she is for real.
You can't trust anyone, if it just doesn't work out, PEOPLE GO FOR THE JUGULAR!
'I dated them all" She ain't never date me
Theodore Lindsey you dont count
Shes a slag been through the block
Not seeing where your reply is coming from.
U know woman think all men r the same.
When she was going on and on about how she "knows her husband would do this.... Or do that..." Take care of her daughter not his own if they broke up...naive... Saying things like that and like what you commented tells me how disconnected she can be from reality... No one KNOWS for certain ANYTHING... It's the very first, TRUE and mature adult realization that we all make: nothing is for sure... NOTHING is guaranteed...
I admire that she has the ability to think that way but I've seen too much at my young age already to rest my laurels on wishful thinking... There's only ONE person that you can fully anticipate and that's your own damn self...I do seriously hope she never has to go through a bad breakup with her husband only to find out that she's the only person she can control COMPLETELY and whose choices and actions she can foresee
Funny how it’s USUALLY always the men who want a prenup and the women out ere screaming NOOO prenup gtfoh
pros: gender equality, her feelings can't kill a mans livelihood.
cons: she has to accept the fact that marriage is not a profession anymore.
underrated comment
The moment I bring up the prenup to my fiance, she happily finds a pen to get ready to sign it.
I said nevermind. Because any women who were told to sign a prenup, would hesitate or said they will do it later. It shows what type of person they are to you.
I have been happily married for 9 years now, I made the right call to trust her.
Good luck. 👍
Don't jinx it.lol
Dude tf u saying? U didn't sign the prenup? And u r boasting about that idiocy here?
U won't be in love when u get a divorce and humans are greedy people. Always sign a prenup.
thats such terrible reasoning
@@mikefun7482 fr
Go DIANN !
We should be prepared on prenups. Why do people sound like a prenup signing is something you don't have a say in... What? You both think about the conditions and most of the people sign a prenup to keep their money when it goes wrong. It's not because
they assume it'll go wrong or they'll assume the husband isn't going to stay for long.
Divorce can get very messy and with all the emotional stuff going on, Somebody (or not everybody) in the relationship is trying to hurt the other one as hard as possible. That's just how a lot of people think in my experience..
People change after years,after a marriage, after kids. You don't know for sure you're going to stay a married couple but you're going to make it work. It's just in case something happens.
LoiseauLiberte there shouldn’t be an easy way out of a marriage.. defeats the whole purpose. Don’t make such commitments if you’re not prepared or confident you’ll uphold them at all costs. It’s not by force to get married. People can still be together and not be in a marital commitment.
Fiona London what do you mean by there shouldnt be an easy way out? Do you mean that everybody SHOULD suffer whime they're divorcing? Its a struggle as it is, why make it harder by not having an prenup. A prenup is clear and its already written up what is going to happen after a divorce
LoiseauLiberte YES that is precisely what I am saying. There should be consequences to breaking such sacred commitments so people take marriage more seriously when getting into it and being in it. Making divorce an easy process gives couples an easy way out, which like I said defeats the whole purpose of marriage. Bottom line is making such a commitment isn’t for everyone. Surely if you’re the type of person to want an easier way out of a relationship, getting married and entering a legally binding situation shouldn’t appeal to you in the first place?
Who are you to deside if people are serious about it or not.
Like I said, People can change and marriage can really go sour. Even IF you fight for it every moment of your life, even IF everybody is pulling their weight. Even IF you're 100% your future is with him/her.
+ You said it isn't for everyone, but how can you know for sure if you don't try.
The future is something we can not see, onlyy God can (He's also the one who decides..)
Divorce is never easy, Prenups can make it easier but it's still a big thing to a person. The feeling they've failed on love, on marriage even feeling like they've failed their kids. And if you don't have anything like a prenup: you can also have you're EX husband/wife making it ungodly hard for you and try to take everything away from you, some try to even take away the kids.... You really wish for that too? Nobody wants it to happen but it happens so often...
It's the same to buy a house and having a insurance. Sure you never hope your house burns down but IF it does, you have something to help you. nobody wishes it to go wrong.
LoiseauLiberte See this is what I mean.. the world has made marriage so trivial. You can’t compare marriage and prenups to a house and insurance. One is spiritually binding and the other is not. Breaking such a covenant with God should feel like your whole world is tearing apart. It shouldn’t be made easier. No prenups mean people will think twice as hard before they enter and leave marriages. I’m sorry to say but many people enter marriages without understanding the intricacies and depths of what they are signing up for or what they personally require for it.
That girl in red said "if im going to marry you i trust you enough that if things dont work out that you will be fair" he might be fair but the law isnt
Y'all crazy. Women initiate most divorces. What man is going to risk half his assets? It's very easy for a woman to give the whole commitment speech on this topic, because they're not often the ones who face the consequences of a divorce.
Men are more likely to cheat and cause a divorce in the first place so they reap what they sow.
Reginlaze that's a damn lie.
This is true cause a man won't ask for a divorce they just leave your ass.
What if it's the woman should she risk it too see its not always the man who has the money
They don't face the consequences...??smh. Lol I don't think you know what you're talking about
I would absolutely NEVER get married without a prenup! My mom got a divorce, and she lost almost everything. She was, and still is, a very successful business woman and she had to start over because she was being used. If my partner doesn’t want to sign a prenup, I could assume they want to marry me for my money(even if they don’t think that).
"Marriage is a commitment"
Yea, and thats why ladies are the main ones filing for divorce and taking half of everything men have.
She has the nerve to say that she was trust him to be fair, thus no need for a pre-nup.
No, the issue is he doesn't trust the courts OR YOU to be fair. Divorce can turn the nicest sweetest women into a complete vultures.
I understand her point ( you are recognizing that the marriage may fail if you agree to a pre-nup) but there is something she is not getting. No-fault divorce is a legal reality. If society used her standard that marriage is a lifetime commitment that means YOU CANNOT get divorced. In HER scenario even if you hate each other you cannot get a divorce the only thing you can do is separate. Legally each could only control what property was in their respective names.
Umhh yall are very spiteful as well.. there seems to be a narrative that men have all the money an yall didn't build together when yiu divorce then it's my money lol
@@michellepalmer1160 I know men can be spiteful..but the courts usually don't reward them for it.
Women on the other hand...
BTW, I thought modern women were so strong and independent and can do anything a man can do?
Well, when a man gets divorced...he goes broke and nobody cares about what lifestyle he was use to.
He's just assed out.
Welcome to equality.
@@TheDalinkwent the court reward the richer person and the better lawyer men do get rewarded there are plenty of women that have to pay esp if the man has not been working. Alot more men are getting joint custody. You will have to pay something there are richer women that have to pay I know.
@@TheDalinkwent I use to to work in social programs there are plenty of women who were dependent on the man leave with nothing so ur statement is not true.. and BTW don't yall hate independent women make up your mind yall complain either way..
The whole point of a prenup is insurance. Just because you sign a prenup dont mean youre thinking of divorce. more than HALF of marriages fail in america. you think ppl waste their time and money with marriage expecting a divorce ? nobody expects a divorce but a man shouldnt be held hostage because of potentially lose half his money. Judges love women and have historically favored them in divorce hearings and child custody. If these women made more than their husbands i highly doubt they would not sign
I used to support getting a prenup but when I think about it, why are you thinking about divorce when you’re about to get married?? Divorce should not be an option. If you thinking about divorcing, you should not be getting married. The goal is forever.
Medjine Seguy I agree. People take getting married too lightly. They jump into it without discussing finance, expenses, living arrangements, children, sex and the like. Marriage requires selflessness, love, compromising, honesty, communication, trust, faithfulness, commitment and so on. Therefore, if those things were not discussed before marriage and were not practiced within the marriage then of course you will have divorce. People get married for the wrong reasons or only because they are in love. Love is important but it's not the only thing that will keep a marriage going.
Amen 🙏🥂
Yeah it SHOULD be forever, but it’s not always forever.
Why do you think about insurance before the hurricane hits? To save your ass thats why its called hoping for the best and planning for the worst.
...and somehow half of all marriages end in divorce. You just made the point for why a prenup is a good idea.
This makes me want a prenuptial agreement even more. Steve Harvey did this on purpose to show us men that we need a prenuptial agreement.
I’m getting one with my bf because to be honest. I’ve been burned by a man and I’m doing it again if I get married again. I can’t be burned and my ex’s took everything from me. Everything
@@nessamyers1621 smart choice. Its better to be safe and get one.
No man or woman should go into a marriage without a prenup, if he or she has a problem with it, they're not the one for you.
Seems a bit strange to create a situation where your wife is winning the lottery if she divorces you.
The man is protecting himself. The women want half and she didn't bring nothing to the table.
“When things go bad” you stay together and work it out. Period. That’s the point of marriage.
Most marriages fall apart because of the dating/hook up culture. People think that their “happiness” is the most important thing.
Jj Chen I don’t think that’s a main factor. Maybe a small percentage, but the main problem is that people look to their spouse to constantly make them “happy” and don’t realize the entire point of marriage.
People change once a person has a affair on the spouse. The divorce person comes out they want everything that you have.
I believe couples should go around their house before they get married and write down. What is each of their items they bought before marriage. Then have a separate list of items that were bought during the marriage.
Bad feelings and lawyers get involved and none of that makes a difference. Some women will try to clean out the man just for spite.
guy with specs at 0:57 had the best reaction like 👏..wait what!?😂
0:58
My dude on the left just clapped because everybody is clapping.😂😂 He wasn't feeling her
best panel eva!
Huge red flags when you don't wanna sign a prenup
If I am Steve Harvey, I definitely demand one. The odds of the marriage lasting are less than 50 percent, especially a guy who has married multiple times. And if she is willing to sign one, then you know she is with you for the right reasons.
After watchin Kevin Samuels I’m shaking my head at all these videos lol
Why
I am a firm believer in prenups. I don't have a lot of money but I do own my home free and clear and if I married I would ask for a prenup stating that if we divorced we BOTH would walk away with exactly what we brought with us when we married. If he owned a home, he keeps his home and I keep my home. If he has a business and I don't, he keeps his business. He shouldn't have to sell the business he had when he married me to give me half of a business I had put absolutely nothing into, either sweat equity or capital. If I have one car and he has four cars, I keep my one car and he keeps his four cars. If I were a man I wouldn't demand that a woman sign a prenup. BUT, I wouldn't marry her if she didn't.
Prenup all the way. Not having one creates an Incentive for her to leave you.
My father made all the money, my mother handled expenses..investments decided together.. he made the decision to buy a home, but its in her name.. a generation that had solid tradition, families, society, values, commitment and fear of God to back up their marriage.. so trust was never an issue. We have thrown away those beliefs so can't expect the same kind of trust today
Steve misses the fact that you can’t control another person or their actions. No matter how hard YOU work at it, if the other person wants to go, they’ll go. If his wife woke up tomorrow and said she’s bored and wants a divorce, she’s taking half of everything and he’s paying alimony. There’s nothing he can do to stop it. The reality is 80% of divorces are initiated by women. And, in far too many cases it’s because she was more in love with the idea of getting married than she was with that particular man. It’s her “is this all there is” moment. And , if the man is reasonably successful, he gets to continue providing the lifestyle to which she’s become accustomed while she goes off and explores what else life has to offer. So, sure, tell men (especially affluent men) that pre-nups are a bad idea. It certainly works best for his female audience.
Special K speak for u but you can’t deny what he’s saying
Prenups also protect you or your future spouse from current debt issues. They are not just in case there is a divorce.
Exactly. That is why people shouldn't rush into relationships and marriage. Marry your soulmate, the person that "gets you" and that you are simpatico with. The most important thing is to be with a person that knows how to communicate with you. Through the good and the bad, positive or negative. If you have that, there is no need for a pre-nup because if things don't work out you can trust that your partner will be fair.
sad thing is, people change when they divorce... Like Diann said: the person you marry is not the person you divorce. there are sadly a lot of stories out there. Breakups are never easy, and if they can hurt you, they will. Financial, emotional (taking away the kids, ...),...
I hope nobody goes through with this type of break-up/divorce but it happens.
Belinda Joy In a world where your financial situation defines your success in romance, who marries their soul mate?
You are correct, most people don't marry their soulmate. Just one example of how my beliefs are not in step with the rest of the world. But that's okay, to each their own.
+LoiseauLiberte I'm sorry but I totally disagree with the whole "who you divorce is not who you marry rhetoric". Who you divorce is exactly the same person you married, the only thing is you didn't know who you were marrying before you got married or you foolishly believed you could change them. By the time divorce happens people have come to the realization that they can't change who people are or that they didn't really take the time out to truly know who the person was in the first place. Yes people grow and mature as time progresses, but people's core values don't truly change. The signs were always there, if you ignored them you can't blame anyone but yourself
a pre-nup is nothing bad..... it is a possibility for both partners to make sure that they are on the same page what they want in live. If a partner wants to found a business... thats a risk, if it fails, you as a spouse can be accountable for those bills. Even after a divorce... so if you want to rule that out.... you make a pre nup.... :)
“The person you marry isn’t the person your divorce.” You cannot trust that.
The woman in that Red dress is a walking Red flag 🚩.
Period
i swear to god me and dianne valentine be thinking the same things. as for the so called "old school" lady, be honest with yourself you just want half your spouses money.
0:58 I think he later realsied what he was clapping too 😂😂🤣🤣
XD
"Signing a prenup is planting seeds of doubt about your marriage."
Uh simple math already did. Be realistic: if, statistically, it's basically a coin toss, do you really want to pay someone half of your hard-earned money to get out of your life?
I like the prenuptial agreement
Women think they're slick, who changes more after a breakup than women?
MEN
I got stories
How about...both of them???
Both. Especially if it's a great amount of money.
That why men are going MGTOW. You women can't be honest or direct in your conversations, relationships with men. Take note, ladies... Hints don't work and we don't read minds. If we did, you would not gotten married or be in any long term relationships with men. Use more logic and less emotions is the key here
I love this blond lady in red dress! In every topic, she is making sense! I love the way she see relationship : "as one world"
A prenup can protect both sides if done right. I got royally screwed by my ex husband and the mistress now wife that he moved in the day before kicking me out with nothing but the clothes on my back. Every man I have talked to and dated has told me my requests are reasonable. The relationships didn't work out, but I was upfront with them and they told me they actually respected me for it because the way I would want to have it worded protects them as well as me. Havi g faith and trust in your partner is all fine and good, but it is always good to plan for the worst and hope for the best. That means that on issues that the law doesn't protect you from you need a prenup to address things that could happen that the law can't protect you from without. It's called covering your bases. People buy generators and insurance for their houses just in case something unexpected happens. A prenup is an insurance policy against being screwed over. If the person you are planning to marry doesn't agree to the prenup that must mean they plan on screwing you over. For example, the party that cheats loses custody in the divorce. Anything inherited after the marriage does not count as marital assets, both parties inheritances are protected as if they were premarital property/assets. A prenup only makes the ground rules legally enforceable.
Thank you Erika for your great comment, I hope you find the man of your life who will be fair to you, and I hope God humiliate your ex-husband for cheating on you, you deserve better. God bless.
Take accountability. You chose the wrong guy and you were doing something wrong for him to leave you. Men don’t leave women leave. So if he left more likely than not you were lacking.
@@joeydiaz5927 lmao, I know for a fact that even though I am not perfect, that him doing what he did had nothing to do with whether I was lacking or not. You are right though that I did choose the wrong man. Everyone is responsible for both their actions and reactions. It is not my fault he made the choices he made. I am also not the first woman he has screwed over. My ex husband is 18 years older than me, and I am his second wife out of three (that I know of.) He has at least 8 children by 5 different women that the courts have proven so far, and there are others that he has referenced in vague threats such as “I’ll tell you like I told the other one, you come after me for child support and I’ll take your kid.” Trying to shift the blame to all women is a problem you need to work on.
@@erikatamayo1925 I don’t mean to hurt your feelings. It’s just more productive to look inward. No need to be a victim. At the end of the day you chose a man with a terrible past and most likely bc of love ignored red flags.
@@joeydiaz5927 my feelings aren’t hurt. There is also a difference between reflecting on one’s self, and blaming one’s self for the actions of others. The later is usually a self esteem issue. However, I did ignore red flags, but it wasn’t because of love, it was due to a lack of experience. I was 20, he was 38, and he was my first boyfriend as well as my first sexual partner. He is first or second generation American (Mexican), and an otr truck driver. His maternal grandmother was born in the state of Durango Mexico. I didn’t see the cultural differences and his career choice as red flags because at the time I believed that the fact that his ethnicity, age, and profession were not indicators of who he is as a person.
I would have no problem signing one. Marriage doesn’t give me the right to his assets, vice versa. If we build financially together then we split evenly if the marriage goes wrong.
Money is a funny thing. If the person you marry isn’t the person you divorce, maybe the person you marry has always been the person you divorced, circumstances just had not introduced you two. Money brings out things in folks along the way. Don’t rush and watch behavior. How can you marry someone and trust them with everything but your money?
STEPHANIE SHELLING
Thank you. I think marriage means different things to different folks and I understand those for prenup as well as those against it. Yes there are bad people in the world but if you’re that worried then maybe marriage is not for you; there are other arrangements and as long as you’re rich you’ll find people willing to play your game. Also if you’re fifty looking to marry a twenty year old then needless to say you need a prenup.
Ok girl at the end nailed it... marry a man/woman that you are on the same page with and all this prenup stuff won’t matter
May I ask why your so against pre-up? Marriage is a business just as much as it is love. When you get married, you invite the government and the courts into your relationship. Would you not insure your business?
Galaxy _TheBeast because I do not believe marriage is business. Marriage in MY belief is from God... one man, one woman,.... yes marriage is hard AF, but that’s because it’s 2 ppl doing it the devil doesn’t want us to be married because it’s something pleasing to God. That’s my beliefs...(please be respectful of that, I respect if you do not believe in God). But other than that. My husband and I got on the same page long before marriage and we are building our lives together. So why wouldn’t we agree to split half and half if we divorce? I understand it gets muddy when it comes to famous ppl but for us that aren’t famous and are just everyday ppl, we need not be worried about all that in my eyes...instead of doing a prenup just marry someone that you know would be fair if you broke up. Chances are you wouldn’t break up anyways. I say all that to say..... unless you have millions and cannot trust that someone isn’t after your money and you still marry them, then sure get a prenup, but if you love and trust that person fully then just live your beautiful life and if ish hits the fan, be fair.
@@curlygirl9023 beautiful comment 👏👏
@@shrgh1876 thank you 🙏🏾❤️❤️❤️❤️
Personally, I did not sign a prenup when I married . It’s not something I was comfortable with, but I would have considered it had my husband brought it up. When my parents got divorced, it was handled so gracefully. My mother and feather taught us “don’t marry someone who doesn’t love you enough to honor you if you divorce.”
My father took care of my mother financially after the divorce, because my mother gave up a career as an aviation mechanic to raise my six brothers and I. They used the same attorney for their divorce. They are birth remarried now, and the four get lunch every Sunday after church.
If a woman does not want to sign a prenup no matter if I am broke or rich I am not dating her at all let alone marrying her period point blank.
Prenups can save a marriage. It starts important conversations that need to be had before the wedding. Many ppl expect marriage to be like a light switch that suddenly completely changes their partner cause some ppl's idea of the ideal bf/gf doesn't match their ideal husband/wife. Things that men and women tolerated for years as unmarried couples suddenly becomes the petty reasons for big arguments in their marriage.
Prenups make couples talk about all the things that could ruin their marriage and come up with solutions to put it in writing how they agree to raise children, argue with each other, pay debt, etc as a couple to protect their marriage as well as remain civil and protect themselves if the marriage doesn't work. A prenup is an *agreement*. If you feel that you got the short end of the stick, blame yourself for signing without asking for changes and adding things that you want. You have to communicate with each other instead of just saying no all together
Nobody wishes for a divorce..but it happens ..so we need to protect ourselves ..
Change is constant ...people change
Love changes like the weather. I've known ppl that have been married for years and they got a divorce. Originally they wondered how that partner changed on them, cause that was not the person that they dated and got married to. There's an old saying, "come see me and come live with me, two different things."
The lady in red is tweakin AF😂
Prenup for life !!!! ✊
Marjorie secured the bag. We love a scammer.
When divorce becomes an impossibility, then there will be no need for a pre nup.
Divorce is always a possibility, because you can't stop your spouse from divorcing you.
X x in a 1st world country yes
The woman in red is wrong. There is no way i would get married with out a prenop.
Isabel Olsson just because someone has a different perspective to you, doesn't make them wrong.
Elle Jay wrong
Elle Jay shut up of course is does
Yes Steve yes Steve
And fair is that we do not touch each other's money. I got mine, you got your. You are marrying the man or the woman. Not their money. A smart man who makes or has more money will always sign a prenup. If she doesn't want to sign, then bye. She is not the right one. She is after the money.
The 2 black women are speaking facts, as usual
5 years down the line, huh ...
I love 2023
@0:27 "When it comes to prenups, I'm old school" that statement would be valid in the 50s, not from a modern "strong and independent" woman. If you're a modern woman, the below will hurt.
If you want to be "old school" here's how to be old school:
1. Stay virgin till marriage
2. Cover yourself properly
3. Stay home with the kids and look after your working man
4. Don't be argumentative with your husband as if you're competing with him
5. Cook and clean and look nice at home for him
6. Don't share your family and marital arguments and issues with the outside world.
7. Don't post on social media for people (men) to validate and compliment you.
If you do those "old school" things then no one will see through your double standards, want old school man/marriage while being a modern woman :-)
Why is it always the woman in the middle a gold digger 😂😂😂
Prenup is mens protection
Old school is a prenup. It is fair to lay it out and puts the man at risk far more than the woman.
Women's idea of fairness is taking half of your money and stuff, without having done anything to earn it.
Divorce and prenups: Finally a subject Steve is qualified to speak about😏
Every man needs...
A prenup.
DNA verification.
A business trust.
I can't imagine a high quality man would wed without one
Every man watching this do not be stupid. Get a prenup. Blood sweat and tears all we work for. For a girl that never pick up a basketball, or finalize a deal and for some reason she can get half of your money like she work for it
I made only one mistake in my life, I should have demand her sign a prenup because she changed into a different person after the 8 year mark.
All these men trying to avoid child support lmaooo
Sign a prenup. Save yourself from heartbreak and headache
marriage should be standard to each his own
I say have them sign the Prenups. Why? First of all, 1. Manipulation, most women are going to disagree and claim that you don’t love them if you try to make them sign those papers. Secondly, The majority of women don’t look at the terms of a man that has to give most of the things they own to her which it screws over guys who are actually treated their wife and kids respectfully and took care of them responsibly.
“They say they want equality? No, they want special treatments.”
Dr is on the button i DIDN'T know
This aged well.
You should have gotten the prenup uncle steve you shud
I wish coach is there talking to you all love
I’m a 17 year old male and this is how I choose who I will Mary. A woman who works on herself, builds something for herself, a woman who is loyal, not perfect because that’s impossible, but someone who has the mindset mature enough to be with you, to be ready to answer the big question of “Will you Mary Me?”, and actually deal with what comes with it. Just a tip, that description of a great woman is my girlfriend who has goals for herself and us. People now have no mature mind set and want the wrong things, we want a family, and something to leave behind.💪🏽💪🏽
Hard to believe you are 17 with that much insight..if so, congrats you have a great future
As someone who will very likely be the primary earner, when I get married, it's no longer MY money. It's OUR money. And every dollar afterwards is earned together, spent together, and given together. I don't believe divorce is an option, but if by some unforseen circumstance it happens, splitting our wealth in half is the LEAST of my concerns. I can't take money to the grave.
I thought it was hilarious when the cut to the clapping crowd that all the women were clapping normally and the guys were giving the slow clap😂
There are men and women out there who will manipulate you into marriage and you think you love each other, and then soon after you're married they take everything you have. Dirty John situation.
Sometimes you get what you deserve, Mr Harvey is just getting his
The person you marry is not the person you divorce. . . very interesting statement.
2:05 you see how she said you can’t take “MY” kids 😂she tried to justify it to😂